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Exiting the Matrix and Activating Christ Consciousness with Amy Belair · Reclaiming Consciousness

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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breastwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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SPEAKER_00: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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SPEAKER_00: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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SPEAKER_00: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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SPEAKER_00: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
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SPEAKER_00: Get ready to go deep.
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SPEAKER_00: Now let's dive in.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone.
1:01
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the show.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: So this week's guest is so awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: We have Amy Belair with us this week, and I just so deeply connected with her.
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SPEAKER_00: I know you guys are gonna love her so much.
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SPEAKER_00: She calls herself the Cosmic Oracle.
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SPEAKER_00: She has an amazing podcast called Um Third Eye Awakening, and she does these really amazing energy forecasts there.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: They are so powerful.
1:24
SPEAKER_00: She's so tuned in.
1:26
SPEAKER_00: And her and I are like Scorpio sisters.
1:29
SPEAKER_00: We're the exact same age, and we just so deeply connect in this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: And afterwards, we just are very, very, very similar.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: And I know you guys are really gonna enjoy this conversation because of course we go really deep.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't really have it any other way.
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SPEAKER_00: So I know you guys are gonna love her.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, you definitely have to follow her on Instagram.
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SPEAKER_00: Her Instagram is the Cosmic Oracle, and she is just such a light and so, so, so tuned in at such a high level of consciousness.
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SPEAKER_00: So you guys are definitely gonna love her and you're gonna love this conversation.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: It will really ignite something within you.
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SPEAKER_00: I know that because her energy is just so powerful.
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SPEAKER_00: So I know you're gonna love it.
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4:27
SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
4:29
SPEAKER_00: So I'm super excited for today's guest.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: Today we have with us Amy Belair, and Amy is a cosmic oracle, a keeper of the Christ consciousness frequency, and a translator of multi-dimensional light codes.
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SPEAKER_00: She is the host of the Third Eye Awakening podcast and co-author of the Priestess Transmissions.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, this is like so in alignment.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to talk about all of this.
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SPEAKER_00: Amy facilitates the expansion and ascension of human consciousness through her library of courses and workshops and mentorship programs.
5:00
SPEAKER_00: So welcome to the show, Amy.
5:02
SPEAKER_00: Hi, Elise.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited you're here.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: So I'd love to just hear like a little bit from you as to, you know, a little bit of your journey of kind of how you got to where you are and what you're doing now.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
5:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna try and nutshell it as much as possible.
5:20
SPEAKER_01: I know it's hard.
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SPEAKER_01: So when I was really little, like really little, like two and three, I remember knowing I was here for a big reason to impact a lot of people.
5:30
SPEAKER_01: And I would have these like images of speaking to large groups of people and just channeling information that would cause them to basically like the way my brain processed it back then was like it's as if they were holding weapons and they were at war.
5:44
SPEAKER_01: And then all of a sudden they would hear what I was saying and they would look at their weapons in their hands and be like, what are we doing?
5:50
SPEAKER_01: and put them down and like world peace.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I perceived about myself when I was really little.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: And then of course I went through the arcs that most of us do, where like the programming, the matrix, the things that sort of um catch you in that net and cause you to totally second guess yourself.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: So I went through that whole experience.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: But around the age of 18, I started having my spiritual awakening, although I was always spiritual, but it was sort of like my awakening to my connection to it all, and that basically like reality is different from what we are taught it is.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: And it was a long, lonely journey.
6:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm 40 now, so it was a long, it felt like a long time of just feeling like a total alien, totally crazy, having people look at me like I was crazy when I would share truthfully what I was thinking, my internal reflections.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: And I just tried my hardest to blend in with the world and blend in with society, and ultimately I ended up pursuing midwifery.
6:53
SPEAKER_01: So I was a midwife before I started doing this, and it was a kind of a happy medium career.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: The medical field is really it's very matrix-y, so it was challenging in that sense, but I felt like I was doing important work.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: But right smack dab in the middle of it, of my my program to become a midwife.
7:14
SPEAKER_01: I got pregnant unexpectedly with my second child, a son.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: And then I got in this little fender bender and it catalyzed essentially his preterm birth.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: So he was born at 26 weeks and change, and he only lived for 20 days, and that was so immensely painful.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: It was like the biggest ego death I could possibly have fathomed.
7:40
SPEAKER_01: I felt like I lost my son, but I also like lost so much of the identity I had created around being a midwife.
7:48
SPEAKER_01: I'd lost my sense of purpose, I just didn't know what to do with myself.
7:52
SPEAKER_01: I was listening to the Matt Bel Air podcast.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: I was working as a room attendant at a resort.
7:59
SPEAKER_01: So I was cleaning people's rooms and I could only do it two days a week.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: The grief was so intense.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: And I was listening to the Matt Bel Air podcast, and I heard him talking to a woman, I think her name is Crystal Seville, and she was talking about the Akashic Records.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: And I had never heard of the Akashic Records to my conscious recollection, anyway.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: I heard those words and they just felt like magic, like so activating to hear those words.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: And she mentioned that she learned through Jennifer Longmore's program, Soul Journeys.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: And I like was like, I'll go to the bathroom, lock myself in a cubicle, looked it up.
8:36
SPEAKER_01: I think I thought about it for like a day and I signed up and I learned how to read the Akashic Records for myself.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: And through that, I got my answer to why that happened with my son.
8:47
SPEAKER_01: I got total, absolute healing.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: It didn't erase the grief.
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SPEAKER_01: That'll always be there.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: But it's like total closure.
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SPEAKER_01: I understand why it all happened, and I can move on with my life in a way that I'm actually enhanced by that experience.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: I see it as a tremendous gift.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: I see him as a gift.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't see it as having diminished myself or him.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: And to achieve that much healing in one session that I did myself, I was like, oh, I need to learn how to do this for others.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: And so eventually I left my midway free job and started doing Akashic record readings for people.
9:28
SPEAKER_01: I started a podcast about spiritual awakening, and it's just kind of unraveled from there.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: It's it's sort of taken on a new direction where now I feel like I'm always in the Akashic field, and I'm frequently channeling information for the collective about the direction that we're headed to disentangle from the Matrix.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for sharing all of that.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: I was like going through kind of like an emotional experience as you were talking because that's just so powerful.
9:58
SPEAKER_00: And just about the records and just having that knowledge and understanding of why that happened is such a powerful gift and you know, something that everybody should have access to, you know.
10:12
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not surprised that you wanted to do that for other people.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
10:17
SPEAKER_00: And there's so much I can relate to, too, of what you said, just around like your experience as a child, and then you know, around 18 having a spiritual awakening, which is like similar to what happened to me.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's so funny because I'm 42, 40 also, which I also feel like is such a powerful, like transformational age where you just kind of I felt like when I turned 40, I was just like, okay, this is what I'm doing.
10:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: There's just something like activating about turning 40, where you kind of like step into yourself in this completely new way.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: Did you feel that also?
10:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: It just felt like shit is happening.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, you like stop giving a shit in this way that is like hard to even explain, but you're just like, fuck it.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
11:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna be me.
11:05
SPEAKER_00: So now moving forward, so you work with women as like a mentor or a coach, and you just incorporate, oh, the other thing that you said, sorry, I was like trying to remember all the stuff that you said that I wanted to respond to.
11:17
SPEAKER_00: The other thing you said about just like always being in the Akashic Records, that's exactly how I am too.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: So I totally relate to that.
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SPEAKER_00: When I first read the records, I was like, oh wait, I've always been doing this.
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SPEAKER_00: I just didn't know that I was doing it.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: Like I didn't have a name for it.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Like I would always joke that like I use the Akashic Records to get through college because I like never bought books or anything.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: I would just like I thought I was making shit up, but I think I was really just tapping in to the record.
11:48
SPEAKER_00: So I totally relate to that.
11:50
SPEAKER_00: So where you are now, so you're working with women as a mentor.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, what is your work now?
11:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm just in the process of quite a big transformation in my work.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: So I had a baby last July, and you know, my work kind of went into a sort of a mode, like I dialed down an inward because I had a baby.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: And so it kind of incubated like a new version of myself, which is just birthing out now.
12:15
SPEAKER_01: And it's really, it seems to be about carrying and transmitting Christ consciousness codes.
12:21
SPEAKER_01: So what it feels like is it has nothing to do with religion, although I was loosely raised in the United Church.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: So I have a foundation to understand Christianity, but I'm not processing it through that lens.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I'm not a student of the Bible or anything like that.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: But there are just these things I understand about Jesus, but furthermore, about the consciousness frequency that we know of as Christ, because Jesus' surname wasn't Christ.
12:50
SPEAKER_01: Christ means anointed one.
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SPEAKER_01: So what I understand is a lot of us are here to be avatars for the Christ consciousness frequency and to be like vessels for that level of understanding of who we are, how reality works on this plane as well as in other dimensions.
13:08
SPEAKER_01: And it's just like a big matrix hack, but it is from the field of the highest light and love.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: It's so interesting because when I was a kid, I used to like see images of Jesus.
13:23
SPEAKER_00: I would just see images of Jesus, like not that that were actually there, but just like I would.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: I probably told this on the podcast before, but I'll just say it quickly again.
13:32
SPEAKER_00: In my parents' house growing up, there was like a hallway, like there was a bathroom, and it had two doors, one at the hallway, and the other door was at my parents' bedroom.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: And when I would walk down the hallway, I could see through the bathroom to the other door into my parents' bedroom.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: And I would always see things in that doorway and it would scare the shit out of me, which is why like I was afraid of the dark, because I would always see shit.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: And Jesus was one of the things I would always see.
13:59
SPEAKER_00: But I just thought that I was like crazy and it was scary, and I never wanted to tell anyone.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: But then, like fast forward, I did this reading, this starseed astrology reading, where they like plot different points that starseeds have.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: And she was telling me how I'm like a carrier of this consciousness, like the Jesus and Mary Magdalene consciousness and activating that, which made a lot of sense to me.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: And it's also making a lot of sense to me, like what you're saying, that a lot of us have like come here to kind of hold this energy or activate these codes like you're describing.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: So that makes total sense to me.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it really feels like a frequency, which is kind of how you're describing it too, right?
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: Totally, totally.
14:44
SPEAKER_01: And it just feels like these understandings that I do not come from my personal lived experience.
14:50
SPEAKER_01: It's it just sort of drops into my crown and I understand, you know, like for example, one of the first things that I received in this vein, in the Christ consciousness vein, was that the understanding that we live in a universe of more, there's only ever more.
15:06
SPEAKER_01: There's never less of anything.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: So scarcity is it's a perception, it's an illusion that is based on a perception.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: So whatever you focus your attention on, as we know, grows.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: So you can have an experience of less or an experience of scarcity, but the irony is that it's just more lessness because you're focusing on it.
15:27
SPEAKER_01: It's only ever more.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: The universe just yields more and more and more.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: Uh the raw materials are all there and infinite and totally, there's no finite quantity of the raw materials.
15:39
SPEAKER_01: And I understood as I was channeling that, I was like, and that's how Jesus fed the masses, whatever, off of like two fish and three loaves of bread or whatever it was.
15:50
SPEAKER_01: Because he knew that and he knew it so strongly that the frequency didn't waver in him.
15:57
SPEAKER_01: So there was only more.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: Whenever he reached into the basket, there was just more.
16:01
SPEAKER_00: It's so interesting when you're talking about that.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking about the movie The Matrix, the scene where like Neo finally realizes that it's all just a matter of his perception.
16:12
SPEAKER_00: He's just like fighting the guys without even really trying.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's kind of that same thing where it's like if you know that so unwaveringly, then you can live that because you just know that, right?
16:26
SPEAKER_00: It's just something that is embodied within you.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: But the programming that we've received is the actual opposite, and it's so strong that there's only a finite amount of resources, there's only a finite amount of love, and that we have to kind of be in this like lack and scarcity consciousness.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: And another thing that's so interesting that you're bringing this up is I literally have been shown in the last few days around this eclipse that one of the biggest things that I was dismantling and shifting during this eclipse was lack and scarcity consciousness.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of crazy that you're bringing this up now because I feel like this is exactly what I needed to hear to like shift to shift this with the codes that you channel and stuff.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Do you activate them within your clients who mentor with you?
17:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have a mastermind right now.
17:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's called 1212.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: So this is like the first landing place.
17:22
SPEAKER_01: It's kind of like the inaugural round where it's a little bit messy because I don't know if it's the same for you, but like I'll just get instructions that I'm supposed to do this thing, and I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna say.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Who cares?
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Start it anyway.
17:35
SPEAKER_01: And then I show up like a deer at headlights, but it all comes out.
17:38
SPEAKER_01: So this is the inaugural round where everything is coming out, and it is activating those codes, activating that remembrance.
17:45
SPEAKER_01: I really believe that everybody that comes into my sphere and is called to work with me is lately.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: I seem to be I'm getting clarity that I'm here to work with incarnated souls from the angelic realm, which they have a whole different thing than the star seeds.
18:00
SPEAKER_01: It's a different, it's different.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: And then in the Akashic field and people who are meant to be avatars for the Christ consciousness, Krishna, Buddha, Shiva, Kwanyan, etc., the descended masters as we understand them.
18:15
SPEAKER_01: So it's kind of like reinforcing, like they kind of already know the same way I kind of already knew.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: But sometimes you just need a container to really anchor it in.
18:26
SPEAKER_01: So you don't feel like you're crazy.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, most of us, I certainly do, and my clients certainly do, have these thoughts of like, who am I?
18:34
SPEAKER_01: Am I saying that I'm on par with Jesus?
18:37
SPEAKER_01: You know, like there's all these um these things that come up, these limiting things, and it's like an activation and it's a place to safely anchor into that and really start outwardly declaring it and taking on that identity.
18:52
SPEAKER_01: And then there's a lot of instructions that I'm getting right now of like the practical literal application of these codes and what we need to do to harmonize with the process of ascension that's happening so that we're not just kind of like waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting for like the event or the solar flash or you know, whatever.
19:13
SPEAKER_01: For certain among us, I feel like we're here to architect the bridge to that frequency.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I completely agree with you.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: And I always see this.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, I totally relate to thinking you're crazy, not you're crazy, but I'm crazy.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: Cause I started getting these downloads probably like a year ago, where I was told I was gonna be activating these certain things within people.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: Like the first one I got was the miracle frequency, and that was last spring, like in 2021.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what the fuck is this?
19:44
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what this is, I don't know what they're talking about.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: And then I just was shown the energy work that I was gonna do to activate this frequency within people.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: And then I got the galactic access codes, what they were called.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I don't know what the fuck this says either.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: And then I'm like, great, okay.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: So I'm supposed to activate this within people, like I'm trusting that I'm gonna do that.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: And now I have to like talk about what it is.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know how to talk about what it is because I'm constantly just seeing that all I'm doing is like transmitting the energy.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: So it like doesn't really matter what I say, which is another way that it kind of makes you feel crazy a little bit because you're just like, I don't even know how to describe this.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna describe it the best that I can, but I don't really know like exactly what this is.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: And I think there's also an element to it that can't be described in the physical plane, like it's not something that we can even explain from the viewpoint or perception of where we are in the 3D reality.
20:48
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: Totally, like the English language is so meant to keep us in the matrix.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: That everything about it, it's linear, you know, like it's meant to translate linear concepts.
21:00
SPEAKER_01: And so trying to speak into the English language is like a permanent struggle, but I really believe that it's like you said, we're just transmitting the energy.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: And some people have messaged me after I go live, and they're they tell me, like, I almost didn't even hear what you were saying, but your eye contact was so activating.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: And I think that, yeah, on this level of information that is outside of the context of like our 3D, 4D understanding, it just has to come in other ways.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: And actually, the night before last night, on the the night of the eclipse, I had this crazy light code activation.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: I woke up in the middle of the night and I like can see all these codes around me, like symbols around me.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: I think there were 144, but I'm not uh certain.
21:49
SPEAKER_01: It was just a lot, and they were in a circle, and I could hear people speaking light language, but I couldn't see anyone, and I'm not really clear audience, so that was quite distinct for me.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: And I started Getting these like hand movements to do, they're not totally integrated yet, but I can feel these energy hand translations.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: I just feel like so much information is coming through, and our human minds can't be.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's so interesting too, because I have a client who actually just said some pretty similar things where she said she was getting these symbols coming through, and she actually drew some of them and like posted them in our group, and they were very activating.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: But then she was saying that she was getting these hand symbols coming through, and she didn't know what they were or what they meant, and she just felt like she was supposed to like do these hand symbols.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, What is this?
22:42
SPEAKER_00: I know our poor human brains, eh?
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I know they're like, What is going on?
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, the other thing I just wanted to say before I forget is you know, Dr.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Robin McKay, she was on the podcast, and what she said that was so validating for it will be for you too, is so I guess when they did, they collected data, right, on practitioner-client relationship.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: And she said that the modality or like what the healer was doing with the client was only made up only 10% of the effectiveness of what the person got out of it.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: So the scientific data proved that it's actually just about like the energetic exchange between the two people.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: So, like what we're saying and what we're getting is now proven by science according to our own Dr.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: Robin McKay.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: So this is like really, it's really real.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: And it's funny too, because I think people can sort of focus on like, well, what are we doing?
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Right?
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, we're doing breath work, oh, we're doing energy work, oh, we're doing the Akashic Records.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting to me too, because people always ask me, like, one of the biggest things I get asked about on like podcasts and stuff is about the Akashic Records.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's hard to answer because it's like, it's just like this piece or just thing that kind of weaves through everything I'm doing, but it's not the only thing I'm doing.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's also I'm doing it in my specific way, and you're doing it in your specific way.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
24:21
SPEAKER_00: So it's less about the modality, I guess is my point, and just about what's coming through you.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Totally, totally, and like what we were saying before, when you're permanently attached to the Akashic field, it's like everything that you do filters through that space.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: And it's so even like like I stopped leading with that over the last few months because I was like, and that's what I'm doing anyway.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: And I just don't have to package everything in that way.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: But uh, what you're saying that Dr.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Robin was talking about, I've experienced that myself.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: Like when I see somebody has a program or something that they're offering, and and I'm like a full body yes, I pay and like without even listening to any of the content, it's like I already received the things.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: It's wild.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes I'll pay, I'll be in like on pre-pre-sale and it won't be starting for an entire month.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: And by the time it starts, like I feel like I've already heard everything that they're saying when I'm listening to the transmissions.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: I know.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: I the exact same thing happens to me where I just will be like, okay, I'm doing this, and just in the act of me saying I'm doing it and paying, I get it all.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: It's so crazy.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: And that's just like really working outside the matrix, which brings me to my next question for you.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: What do you feel are like some of your ways that you kind of live outside of the matrix, but within the matrix at the same time?
25:52
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, I guess we have to, right?
25:55
SPEAKER_00: So, what's your take on that?
25:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, my practical ways is, you know, it was a journey.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: Like 2020 was really eye-opening for me.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: And there were, even though I was spiritually awake, I was only minorly conspiratorially awake.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: Like I totally knew from working, first of all, the education system.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm in Canada, it's just such a joke, and I always knew that.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: And then having worked in the medical system, I was like, none of this is for our well-being.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: None of this.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Right.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of knew I saw the writing on the wall right away, but man, I learned some dark things about humanity and the state of the planet, and was really personally, I was really still having my loosh harvested in reaction to a lot of the things I was learning.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, they would talk about like this terrible thing that's gonna happen and that terrible thing that's gonna happen.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, for example, when the injection started rolling out, and we kept hearing about if you weren't in the camp of getting the injection, we kept hearing about people probably all getting sick and dying because they weren't gonna have any natural immunity left, right?
27:00
SPEAKER_01: So, like I went through that whole process of having so much of my loosh energy just like drained out through hearing all those things.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: And I finally got to a point towards the end of last year where I was like, I'm literally not listening to any of it.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I can see it's all of it on either side, it's all kind of calculated to keep us out of our power, even when we think we're on the truthing side, right?
27:23
SPEAKER_01: It's just us feeling victimized in a different way.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: Right.
27:27
SPEAKER_01: And it's still fear, it's just on the opposite side.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: And both sides have this built-in smugness of thinking that like we know what's up.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Right.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: So I was just finally like, no, I'm unplugging from all of this.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: And I just tapped into my creatorship and like I kind of understood how all of this works.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: I understand um predictive programming.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: I understand that those who are, you know, what we would call the dark controllers, that they refuse to go beyond the 5D portal.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: They will not go through it because then they have to pay the tab of feeling everything that has they've ever created.
28:04
SPEAKER_01: And so they're using us, predictively programming us to manifest on their behalf.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: They can't access the realm, you know, the higher dimensions where true creation comes from, as long as they're making these choices.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: And I just started to see, and I was like, I'm not watching anything, not even anything for numb out entertainment, unless it totally lights me up and inspires me in my creatorship.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I just got really, really strict about what I was taking in.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: And then also we just got bunnies.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: A lot of them are gonna be in our freezer this winter.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: This will be my first time ever doing that.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: So it's a little bit like I was just petting them.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, how can I possibly do it?
28:45
SPEAKER_01: But that's the reality of eating, right?
28:48
SPEAKER_01: Is like we eat life force, whether as plants or animals, and just planted a veggie garden.
28:55
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like all the small moves that I could take towards just not being so reliant on the system as many people are doing, but also like really, really believing in my highest timeline.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: And I also recently got this, I don't know if it was a download, I just had this thing shown to me about how we create timelines at the quantum level, like the subatomic level.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: It's this geometric blueprint of a timeline, and then you kind of like encode it right into somebody's quantum field, and it's not just manifesting a thing, it's like the whole picture, the whole picture of our highest, all the details, things we can consciously see, things we can't see.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: And when I get information like that, it's just so exciting.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: That's like I don't want to hear or give any of my energy to these darker agendas, and it doesn't feel like a place of naivety either, though.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm aware, but I'm not I'm not playing chess with them.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm just not fucking doing it.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: That's all.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I a hundred percent agree with you.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like it's so important to have an understanding of like how it works so that you can choose out of it, right?
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Like so that you can see, like, oh, for example, like if I'm watching something, which I choose to do at times, I like know, like I'm like, well, first of all, I put up a shield toward I put up a like a programming shield, and I do this with my kids too.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: Like I put these like shields around them when they watch shows so they don't get brainwashed.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: And then uh for myself too, I'll put up a shield, but also like I can see, right?
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Like I can be like, oh, they're trying to get us to think that by saying that, or or even if it's something on the world stage, it's like, oh, they're putting this thing out.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's because they're trying to get us to think this, right?
30:50
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's so good to like have that understanding so you can see what's truly happening, but not allowing it to affect like your state of consciousness or what you're doing, right?
31:04
SPEAKER_00: So you're still in your creatorship, like you're saying, which I love, but you have that awareness, but you're not letting it affect your energy, which I think is like incredibly important because we're creating what's next.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: So in order to do that, we can't be like looking to what's going on in the world to inform us.
31:23
SPEAKER_00: Like we have to be the ones informing.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly it.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: It's like not coming from a reactive space.
31:28
SPEAKER_01: So, like, my my partner still he like he's you know, he's my update, like he gives me the updates of what's going on.
31:35
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly how I am.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of know what's up, but even like when I hear these things, I just don't feel any movement in my emotional field anymore, which is a really great feeling.
31:47
SPEAKER_01: And it was a process, though, it was definitely a process.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: I didn't get there overnight, but I can feel now it's like I can hear what's going on, and I can see the move and I can see the effect, and I can see like, oh, it was as simple as removing myself from the game as his boyfriend once.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: He was such a tool.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: He was uh a PhD candidate, an astronomy PhD candidate, and he just fancied himself at the time anyway.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what he's like now, but at the time he just fancied himself like intellectually superior to everyone, including me.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: And he was very arrogant and he got super into watching online poker.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: So he wanted to play poker with me, and I never learned like I didn't come from a card playing family, I didn't know how to play poker, so he kind of taught me, and we were just playing for pennies and whatever, but you know, he was just so friggin' smug every time he beat me, which he always did because I didn't A, I didn't care, and B, I didn't know how to play poker, and he's watching it, you know, for hours.
32:47
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I remember realizing, like, oh, I don't care if I win or not, it doesn't matter.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: So what if I just like play the game, but I just play whatever card?
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Like I completely detach from any engagement with this at all.
33:01
SPEAKER_01: So I played with no strategy, like I would just put cards down and he'd be would get so mad because they didn't make any sense.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: And even though he won, I had taken all of the joy out of the victory for him because of not playing properly.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: And that would like that served me to figure out this whole thing, to be like, oh right, I can be here and I don't have to play this game.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: I love that so much, and it's so interesting you bring this up because I so relate to that because I feel like my whole life I've just never been into like games or competition like that because it just always felt so shallow or pointless.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
33:43
SPEAKER_00: I just was always like, why should I care about this?
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Like it doesn't actually matter in the realm of why I'm here on this planet, you know what I mean?
33:52
SPEAKER_00: And I get it's fun, and like, you know, sometimes with friends or whenever we're hanging out, I'll play a game and have fun, rarely, but I will do it.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: I think that's like my Scorpio intensity.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, this is way too meaningless for me.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: I'm a Scorpio too.
34:07
SPEAKER_01: And also if I get into the game, oh, I'm playing too.
34:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Then I'll be like really wait, when's your birthday?
34:15
SPEAKER_00: November 18th.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Okay, mine's November 5th.
34:17
SPEAKER_00: So we're both 40 in November.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: We're like almost exactly the same age.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:23
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, yeah, so I feel there's this way too where I've always kind of felt that way where I'm just like, what is the point of this game?
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Which kind of is makes it easier to detach from what's going on.
34:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I agree with you.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: It's been a huge process for me too, especially just with living in Philadelphia and all the mandates and my kids.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that's the thing that's made it really difficult for me is like navigating all this stuff with my kids, where I would get upset about things that were going on and all of that.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: But um, I feel like I'm moving into kind of more of what you're describing, where like I see something and I'm just, what was it that just happened?
35:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the abortion thing.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: And my husband was like sitting at the table and he's like, Why are you not so mad about this?
35:10
SPEAKER_00: You're like, because I see the move, like I see what they're doing.
35:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm just like, uh no, I'm not like it's so obvious.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Like that one was so obvious, or I'm just like, it's so obvious why you're pulling this card out right now.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: And now I just like don't get how people don't see it, and they still get so emotionally involved in it.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: And it like, I think that actually upsets me more than anything that's going on in the world is like when I see, especially people I care about getting so involved in it, then I get a little bit like, oh god, you know, that's something that I think is more challenging for me.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same here.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: And or people who are like otherwise quite awake and right, you know, they get hooked on the thing anyway.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, personally, I'm not stating this as a fact, but I actually believe that it's already happened.
36:04
SPEAKER_01: The shift has already happened, the bifurcation has already happened, and this whole insane circus sideshow that we're witnessing is the fourth-dimensional catch up.
36:18
SPEAKER_01: I kind of believe we're not even actually consciously present in the third dimension anymore.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: It seems that way.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: It's almost like the dream is ending, and we're just the characters in the dream that are like starting to figure it out.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: But that there's a whole reality when we wake up on the other side of the dream.
36:37
SPEAKER_01: And so I feel like all these tactics that they're using, like there it feels like there's been a lot of empty threats, a lot of doomsday, like food shortages, and and I'm not saying people haven't experienced it, but not to the degree that was threatened, right?
36:51
SPEAKER_01: Or FEMA camps or whatever, whatever, whatever.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: And so far, anyway, those things have only played out very, very minimally.
37:01
SPEAKER_01: And I what makes sense to me is that actually there's no power left behind those threats.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: It's all smoke and mirrors.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: If we know how to harness it, it's actually really helpful because it's triggering in us all of the ways that we still buy into the illusion of the false matrix.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: And as things trigger us, it's the exact indicator of where we're leaking our power.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
37:27
SPEAKER_00: And where we're still like buying into fear or feeling like, yeah, like we don't have control or we're giving away our power.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I totally agree with that.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: I see it very similarly too.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like I see it on this energetic level where it feels like everything that's happening is this energetic representation of like this shift that's occurring, like the excavation of what has to come up and alchemize in order for us to move to the next level.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: So that's how I've kind of seen it since 2020, basically.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: Like when COVID happened, I was like, oh, I could see it on an energetic level and it made sense to me.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously, there was so much I had to navigate on a 3D level, just with my husband, basically, and my family who, you know, were not on the same page as me.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: But like from an energetic perspective, I could see it so clearly, and that's what it feels like to me too.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: And I so I totally resonate with what you said of like it's already happened.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: What do you feel like has been the biggest challenge for you, you know, since 2020 and all of these changes that have happened?
38:40
SPEAKER_01: Uh, for me, it was the period of time where the injections started rolling out, and certain friends and family members went for it and like it was navigating all of that fear for their well-being.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: That was really, really hard.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: But apart from that, I feel so lucky, honestly.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: Like, I had decided to leave midwifing on January 1st, 2020 was my last day of midwifing.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: And oh wow.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: So I got to skip the whole nightmare of the medical system.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: Thank God.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: And we have our daughter in school.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: That was a a little challenging, but she's just turning four in a couple weeks.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: So she was in daycare.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: You know, like she didn't, she wasn't required.
39:26
SPEAKER_01: There was no talk at that age group of getting injections, she didn't have to wear a mask.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like I got away with it all really well.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: And then I had a baby, like I wasn't going on dates anyway.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I wasn't going, I wasn't traveling, I wasn't going to the movies.
39:42
SPEAKER_01: That just isn't the season that I'm in in my life.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: So I didn't feel overly restricted in those ways.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: So for me, it was like the navigation of the emotional perception and the fear for family members that chose to get the injection.
39:55
SPEAKER_01: And now I just feel resolved about it.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: It's not pulling at me anymore, which is really wonderful.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do too.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: And I started to feel this understanding of it from like a higher perspective, too, where I just like the way it's working out is all perfect, and everyone is getting exactly what they need based on the decisions they made, like for their highest good.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: And I kind of came to that as well.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: So, but it was a process too, because I feel like again, that there was so much fear perpetrated on like both sides of the equation.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: The way I see it as a visual when I'm tuning into the energy, it's almost like a wave, but I see us we all got like bumped like from both sides, like boom, boom, boom.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: And then we kind of had to like rise up above it or something like that.
40:42
SPEAKER_00: It's really interesting the way that I see it was like figured out what was going on, especially for those of us that are tuned into energy.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: And now I feel the same way.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of resolved to it.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: But I'm also interested to know, I'd like to talk a little bit more about your experience like in the medical system and how you started to understand what was going on and how fucked up it was, and like what your experience was in that realm.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was so intense.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, so intense.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: So I'll start this out by saying that I love all of my former colleagues.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I know that many women become midwives because they love babies and families, and and it's just the system that is corrupt.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: So I'm not calling out any person.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: But I just saw so many things happen based on protocols, and they were to the detriment of the woman and the baby, sometimes significant detriment, like really traumatizing.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: And yet everybody in the medical system would be like, oh, well, it's just what we had to do to prevent the worst outcome.
41:52
SPEAKER_01: But what I actually understood was the worst outcome is being blamed for a bad outcome.
42:00
SPEAKER_01: So I'm not saying anybody just didn't care, like they were just blasé about whether a baby lives or dies, or a mother lives or dies, or whatever.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: But the actual fear that was motivating every decision that was being made was always like, I can't be the one to blame for something going wrong, which means that you're putting yourself first, you're putting yourself before the woman and the baby.
42:26
SPEAKER_01: And it just happened on micro levels, on macro levels, day in, day out, constant, never-ending.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: That's the way the system is structured.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: And so I felt like while I was working there, I would be like watching my hands do things because the protocol says I have to, and I know I'm throwing my client under the bus and it's breaking my heart.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, just as an example, so I I had a woman come in and she she'd had babies before, and she was in just a really weird early labor pattern where she was having contractions, but she wasn't really dilating, but the contractions were palpable, and I think she was about four weeks before her due date.
43:08
SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, we had to take her to the hospital and do an assessment and all this stuff, and the contractions were going on for hours, and there's this thing called um groupie streptococcus that you're supposed to test for, you're supposed to swab for it.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: Um bacteria that is present in some women's birth canals at the time that they give birth for a very small number of babies.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: They will contract it during the birth, and a small number of those babies will get so sick that they'll die.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: It's a very, very, very, very small percentage.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: But I have a baby that died.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: I understand people don't want to take those risks usually.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: So we didn't have her swab result back.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: So she wasn't even in labor.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: It was so frustrating, but everybody's running around like chickens with their heads cut off and panic, panic, panic.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: And you know, what do we have to do all so that we can protect our From being, you know, the one at fault if something bad were to happen.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: And so when somebody has an unknown swab, we're supposed to, per the protocol, treat them as though they have group B.
44:11
SPEAKER_01: Streptococcus.
44:12
SPEAKER_01: And the treatment is five million units of penicillin G intravenously.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Five million units for no infection.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: Her her swab came back negative.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
44:23
SPEAKER_01: She doesn't even leave her.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: Five million units of antibiotics.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: That's no small thing.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: That means all of the bacteria in her body that would be susceptible to penicillin got an opportunity to figure out like penicillin and um mutate so that they're no longer as effective.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: Like there's a thing called antibiotic resistance, you know, that we're contending with because of the overuse of antibiotics.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: That's just one example.
44:48
SPEAKER_01: I saw um so many unnecessary resuscitations of babies, unnecessary, a handful of unnecessary pesiotomies, so many unnecessary C-sections.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: It was just really, really hard to see all that.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can relate.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, just as my background as a school counselor, it was like that too, where you had to like cover your ass.
45:11
SPEAKER_00: Like we were mandated reporters.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: So if any kid said anything, because I psychically knew what was going on, but even if I knew it shouldn't be reported, or I knew that like if I did report it, it would make it worse for the kid.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: They make you feel like you will get in trouble if you don't report something.
45:32
SPEAKER_00: And it's like this constant like everybody in the school is like we have to cover our asses.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: And that's more important than the kid, right?
45:40
SPEAKER_00: So it's the same kind of thing, which I know is just like part of how these systems are structured.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: So I had two kids, and both of my births were like good.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: I didn't have any drugs, I didn't have any interventions.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: But with my daughter, the second one, the midwife, when I had my son, I did it on like a birthing stool and it was good, you know.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then with my daughter, the midwife wouldn't let me use the birthing stool.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, no, this is how I want to do it.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: And she was like, No, you have to lay down.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what the fuck?
46:14
SPEAKER_00: But like I was in labor.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, you that's great.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, okay, but I think what would have probably been like maybe a half hour to an hour turned into like two and a half hours because I couldn't figure out how to get the baby out while I was laying down.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: Like I just couldn't figure out like physically how to do that.
46:36
SPEAKER_00: Like it just didn't feel comfortable to me.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like she kind of threw me into this panic that was completely unnecessary, but I felt like I had to listen to her because it was just like in this moment where she was like, No, this is what you have to do.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, What?
46:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, I wasn't in a place to like argue with her.
46:57
SPEAKER_00: So that ended up being not a good experience.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: And then also after I had my daughter, the placenta wasn't like fully coming out.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: And like instead of like giving it time to come out, they put me under and like manually took it out, which I feel like was really fucked up because I just went through this whole labor, no drugs, like totally natural.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: And then the time where I was supposed to be with my daughter, they like put me under and and like took my placenta out manually.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: Well, I know that sounds gross, but I'm just sharing like this is like the shit that happens.
47:33
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: And those traumas, they get sort of encoded in, you know, in a woman, encoded in a baby.
47:40
SPEAKER_01: They're not negligible.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: Like the thing is that there's this attitude as though, okay, well, everybody's safe, and like that's all that matters.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: And it's not all that matters because now there's two humans that are moving forward in life that have trauma, and there's no room for conversation around it.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: And that's an exact perfect example of how I believe most of my former colleagues totally don't agree with me, but whatever.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I believe the system it didn't just develop that way.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: I believe that it is that way to injure women in their point of maximum power, you know, which is not to say that you have to give birth to be at your point of maximum power, but it is like the height, it's one of the times, like the pivotal, pivotal times when we are in the height of our potency and our power.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: And if you undermine a woman in that moment, it really messes with that our relationship to our power.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: And I don't feel like there's any coincidence about it.
48:42
SPEAKER_01: And I'm certainly not suggesting that your midwife was like, I'm gonna wound her at the burst of power.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: It's just that the system is built so that as a midwife, if you are working licensed at any capacity, then you're thinking about somebody auditing you later.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: You know, that's what you're thinking about.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: You're not thinking about how can I um witness this woman in her power?
49:10
SPEAKER_01: How can I not try to play God?
49:12
SPEAKER_01: How can I just like be present and basically anchor this intense energy?
49:17
SPEAKER_01: It's like being in a medicine journey without any plant medicine necessarily.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: It's a deep underworld passage.
49:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, it's so funny you say that because when I had my son, I have this very specific memory of like when I started to really go into labor.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: I literally started to feel like I had just started like a trip, like an acid trip or like a mushroom journey or something.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: And I could feel the energy in my body of that, and I was like, oh shit, okay, like this is happening.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where I was like, oh god, like it just kicked in, like that moment where like the drugs kick in and you're like, oh shit, there's no going back now.
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it's totally like that, and I completely agree with you.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: I think that all of it is by design, right?
50:08
SPEAKER_00: And I I truly believe that.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: Like it's not just, oh, it happens to be that this just became really fucked up.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think that at all.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: I think that there's all of these points, not just with the medical system, but with education and all of these systems where there are these like specific points that are created, I guess, to take our power away at these very specific moments where we are supposed to like be in our power.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: And it just creates this fracturing internally from our power.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: If you think about being in labor and being in the height of like, holy crap, I'm a literal physical and energetic portal for a new life to come in.
50:51
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm a portal to other dimensions.
50:53
SPEAKER_01: How wild is that?
50:55
SPEAKER_01: And to have then somebody undermine you or be like, oh, the baby's heart rate or something really scary, like that changes the wiring in our brains where like when we feel ourselves come to that place of power again, anywhere close to it, there's this memory that's like, but something was unsafe and you needed to defer to an external authority.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: And the truth is that the external authorities can't do shit.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: And I learned this through the experience of losing my son.
51:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, I actually don't think I was in preterm labor.
51:24
SPEAKER_01: I my water had broken at 20 weeks, and so I was in the hospital once the pregnancy was viable.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: Like, if he was born, he could potentially live.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: I went to the hospital, did the on-bed rest, and it was my second pregnancy.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: And I just one day I noticed I was having uterine cramps, but they weren't painful.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: But I just felt they were like squeezing out more amniotic fluid.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: And I told the nurses, and now that I've had two other pregnancies, I'm like, you were just having Braxton Hicks, but nobody assumed that.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:57
SPEAKER_01: That wasn't their training.
51:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't begrudge them, it all happened the way it had to happen.
52:02
SPEAKER_01: But I can see from my own vantage point that like they thought that they could save this life.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: They, you know, they did everything, and the medical system does save some lives, but I really believe that those lives were meant to be saved.
52:16
SPEAKER_01: Some of them are not meant to be saved, and that's just my own place, but that I've come to.
52:22
SPEAKER_01: But the point is that there's all this hubris in the medical field that, like, somehow we can save women from the perils of childbirth and we can save children from bad outcomes, but really mostly we just create and exacerbate.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: I had my last baby at home by myself.
52:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, I didn't call anyone.
52:42
SPEAKER_01: I just gave birth to him at home, and it was the best birth ever.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: And he took about four minutes to start breathing.
52:50
SPEAKER_01: If I was in the hospital or had midwives present, they would have taken him, cut the umbilical cord, suctioned him out, possibly done a low-key resuscitation, and he was fine.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: He was just like attached to the placenta, was still getting oxygen through that blood, and I just held him and talked to him and kissed him and tickled his feet and stuff.
53:09
SPEAKER_01: He just took four minutes to come around.
53:11
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
53:11
SPEAKER_01: Nobody needed to save his life, nobody needed to intervene.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: And I think that that is the huge misperception that there needs to be like all of these interventions that happen, and this model of like there have to be all these interventions, and um, there really doesn't have to be any, and it's kind of like what we were saying making wrong the things that are actually like okay and normal, and making those things wrong to prevent thinking they're preventing something bad from happening.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: So I totally agree with you, and I appreciate you sharing all of that.
53:47
SPEAKER_00: So I know we're coming up on time here, and this was such a great conversation.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: I did not expect us to be talking so much about childbirth, but it's actually like making me realize just some of the trauma that I think I had that I didn't even realize.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: Like I always knew that I was traumatized from having both of my kids, but I didn't realize exactly why.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: Because I was like, oh, well, I had good pregnancies, I had good birth, like there was no issues, right?
54:15
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's probably what we're moving into too within the new paradigm is like coming back to this place of this being like a sacred experience and something that's honored versus it being like a medical problem or something.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: So so thank you so much.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: And would you be able to share with everybody how they can connect with you?
54:41
SPEAKER_01: Yes, thank you so much.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I am cosmic.oracle on Instagram.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: I have a Facebook group called SoulSpace that is just a really beautiful engaged community around spiritual awakening, psychic awakening, psychic development, that kind of stuff.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: And then I have a podcast called Third Eye Awakening, which Elise will soon be a guest on.
55:03
SPEAKER_01: And my website is Amybelair.com.
55:06
SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
55:08
SPEAKER_00: And we will link all that below, but thank you so much for being here.
55:12
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55:13
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55:18
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55:20
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