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The Greatest Evening in My Life: The Onboard UFO Encounter of Sid Padrick · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Got a
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Speaker 1: really special episode for you today. I'm going to be
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Speaker 1: covering a single case of one person's onboard UFO encounter,
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Speaker 1: and it's quite extensive. I've known about this case for
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Speaker 1: a while, but one of you out there suggested I
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Speaker 1: take a second look at it. Thank you for this.
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Speaker 1: I was really surprised to find out how extensive this
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Speaker 1: gentleman's case is and how much information there was about
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Speaker 1: it that I was not aware of. So the title
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Speaker 1: of today's episode is called the Greatest Evening in My life,
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Speaker 1: the onboard UFO Encounter of Sid Padrick. This is I
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Speaker 1: think a very important case. I found it to be
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Speaker 1: quite credible, and let's just get to it. First thing
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about is the witness himself. The
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Speaker 1: witness to this case is Sydney B. Padrick, best known
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Speaker 1: as Sid. He was forty five years old at the
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Speaker 1: time of his encounter. His case has been published in newspapers,
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Speaker 1: UFO magazines, journals, and in several books, so it's been
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Speaker 1: pretty widely publicized, and yet it is not very well known.
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Speaker 1: Sid had a high school education. He was an active
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Speaker 1: duty in the Air Force during World War II. At
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Speaker 1: the time of his encounter, he was a member of
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Speaker 1: the Air Force Reserve. He was a private pilot with
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Speaker 1: some six hundred flying hours of experience, and a ham
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Speaker 1: radio operator. Now, per the Air Force report on his
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Speaker 1: case and I quote, he appears to be of above
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Speaker 1: average intelligence, with an excellent vocabulary and a command of
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Speaker 1: the English language. He is a glib talker. He operates
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Speaker 1: a TV and radio repair business and lives in a
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Speaker 1: comfortable home and drives a new car. It turns out
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Speaker 1: that Sid is pretty well known and a highly respected
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Speaker 1: member of his community, very active in the community. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he was often mentioned in the local newspaper for his contributions.
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Speaker 1: He was Masters of Ceremony. He participated in a lot
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Speaker 1: of local events. So he was pretty well known in
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Speaker 1: his community, and his business was by all reports successful.
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Speaker 1: He was very good at his job. He was married
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Speaker 1: had three sons. Now his encounter occurred on January thirtieth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, but there was a very interesting precursor
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Speaker 1: to his encounter, which Sid thinks is related. As Sid
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Speaker 1: says and I quote, for the last two years before
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Speaker 1: January thirtieth, I had the darnedest urge to keep going
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Speaker 1: to the beach. I went down almost every day without fail.
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Speaker 1: I thought nothing of it. I had a real strong
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Speaker 1: urge to go to the beach every day during the
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Speaker 1: month of January, and many times I walked down during
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Speaker 1: the reign. So Sid Padrick certainly sounds like an upstanding gentleman.
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Speaker 1: As we've seen, he's well known and well respected and
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Speaker 1: very active in his community. He's got a really sterling
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Speaker 1: resume in terms of being a private pilot as a
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Speaker 1: military career, a very successful business. That's funny because often
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Speaker 1: we'll see skeptics and debunkers unable to attack a case,
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Speaker 1: will certainly attack the character of a witness, and later
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Speaker 1: on we'll see that this does happen to Sid Padrick.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he seems to be a normal guy, just
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Speaker 1: your everyday kind of guy. What's really interesting is what
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Speaker 1: he mentioned having this sort of impulse to take walks
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Speaker 1: very late at night. This is something we see with
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Speaker 1: a lot of contactees. Immediately before their encounter, they will
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Speaker 1: be drawn outside by a strong impulse and that's when
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Speaker 1: they have their encounter. That certainly seems to be the
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Speaker 1: case with Sid. But now let's get to the case itself. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about how Sid was taken on
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Speaker 1: board in extraterrestrial craft. It was two a m. On
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Speaker 1: January thirty, nineteen sixty five, and Sid was taking his
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Speaker 1: usual walk along La Selva Beach and Manrisa Beaches outside
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Speaker 1: of Watsonville. This is just fifteen hundred feet from his home. Now,
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Speaker 1: he was about to return home, and he was at
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Speaker 1: the corner of the parking lot at Manresa State Beach
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Speaker 1: and was just about to leave when suddenly he heard
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Speaker 1: a humming sound. And this humming sound began to get
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Speaker 1: louder and louder, and as Sid says, the noise was
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Speaker 1: some kind of droning like noise similar to a large
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Speaker 1: power transformer. I can't be sure because I never heard
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Speaker 1: it before. So he looked up to see what first
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Speaker 1: appeared to be a shadowy form, but quickly revealed itself
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Speaker 1: to his quote great amazement, to be a huge disc
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Speaker 1: shaped craft was moving slowly towards him and descending. It
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Speaker 1: had no lights on it, and Sid says that this craft,
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Speaker 1: he estimates was about fifty feet wide and thirty feet high.
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Speaker 1: He said it looked like quote two real thick saucers inverted.
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Speaker 1: So seeing this, he became quite frightened. He turned and
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Speaker 1: ran about one hundred and fifty feet, falling once and
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Speaker 1: bruising himself as he tried to climb up a steep
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Speaker 1: slope and began running again. He then stood on the
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Speaker 1: railroad tracks next to the parking lot when a male
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Speaker 1: voice spoke, apparently coming from the craft itself, and said,
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Speaker 1: do not be frightened. We are not hostile. So he
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Speaker 1: was started to keep running and this voice repeated the
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Speaker 1: phrase and then said you may come aboard. We assure
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Speaker 1: you of no harm. Now, at this point, the craft
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Speaker 1: was still moving lower, but it didn't actually land. Instead,
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Speaker 1: it hovered about twenty feet from the ground a short
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Speaker 1: distance away, was not over the beach, but over the
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Speaker 1: parking lot, and slowly it lowered until it was just
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Speaker 1: a few feet above the ground, and as it did,
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Speaker 1: it released a huge flash of bright white light. And
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Speaker 1: although sid said that he was quote real scared and
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Speaker 1: would in fact remain so during the entire event, he
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Speaker 1: slowly approached the craft. As he got to within about
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Speaker 1: ten to fifteen feet of it, it's now hovering up
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Speaker 1: just a few feet above the ground, A square door
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Speaker 1: slid open in the side, and he walked up to
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Speaker 1: it and cautiously stepped on board. The door slid closed
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Speaker 1: behind him. That frightened him, and he now found himself
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Speaker 1: in a six by eight foot compartment that was lit
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Speaker 1: by a blue white light, though he could see no
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Speaker 1: direct light source. No people were visible at this point,
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Speaker 1: and immediately a brilliant light came on, which Sid later
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Speaker 1: speculated was to kill bacteria or the germs on his
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Speaker 1: own body. And, as Sid says, the lights got so
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Speaker 1: brilliant I could not watch them. I don't mean just bright,
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Speaker 1: I mean extremely bright. I put my hands over my eyes.
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Speaker 1: This lasted for about one minute, at which point a
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Speaker 1: doorway to another room slid open and a male voice said, relax,
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Speaker 1: you may come in. This, of course, caused Sid to
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Speaker 1: feel another wave of fear. As he says, at that time,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was going to meet a
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Speaker 1: little man, a green man from Mars. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: if I was going to meet a monster. I didn't
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Speaker 1: know who I was going to meet, and I was
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Speaker 1: plenty scared. I want you to know now, I was
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Speaker 1: plenty scared, but he summoned his courage and entered this room,
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Speaker 1: and he immediately was greeted by a man who introduced
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Speaker 1: himself as Xenia, or perhaps Zeno or ZnO Zienna. Sid
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Speaker 1: doesn't know how that was spelled. This name would later
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Speaker 1: become a matter of some controversy, with some researchers speculating
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Speaker 1: endlessly about this one detail. But according to Sid and
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Speaker 1: I quote, the spaceman said, you may call me Zeno.
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Speaker 1: He didn't say it was his name. He was no
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Speaker 1: different than me in basic appearance. His features were clean cut,
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Speaker 1: his flying suit covered most of his body, but I
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Speaker 1: noticed there was no hair on the back of his hands.
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Speaker 1: Now later, there's an Air Force report on his case,
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Speaker 1: and I'll just quote that as the Air Force report says,
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Speaker 1: the spaceman looked like a perfect human specimen. He was
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Speaker 1: very erect and straight of stature, five feet nine inches tall,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five to one hundred and fifty pounds,
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Speaker 1: clear skin, no wrinkles or blemishes on his face, perfect
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Speaker 1: fingernails and teeth, and had dark hair worn in a
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Speaker 1: crooked cut style but very long on top. He was
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Speaker 1: dressed in a very tight two piece suit of a
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Speaker 1: silky white color. This is so interesting to me because
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Speaker 1: already I'm seeing details that I've heard quite often in
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Speaker 1: genuine cases. These are details that I think really lend
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Speaker 1: credibility to Sid's case. For example, his description of the
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Speaker 1: craft hovering just a few feet above the ground and
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Speaker 1: not actually landing. We hear that quite often. The message
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Speaker 1: the ETS gave him of don't be afraid, no harm
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Speaker 1: will come to you. That's certainly the most common thing
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Speaker 1: people hear from ETS. Also his description of stepping inside
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Speaker 1: the craft and getting what he believes was sort of
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Speaker 1: a light bath or decontamination. I've heard this over and
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Speaker 1: over again. Contactee Dolly Saffron describes this in detail in
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Speaker 1: my book Symmetry. When I covered the case of Leo
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Speaker 1: and Mike Dwarshak not too long ago on this channel,
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Speaker 1: they described the same thing. Another contact t I interviewed,
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Speaker 1: Don Anderson, also described this. Betty Andreason described this. So
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Speaker 1: this is another detail that I think lends credibility to
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Speaker 1: Sid's account. I'm not sure he would know about the
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Speaker 1: many cases where this sort of thing happens. Another detail
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Speaker 1: that really struck me was his description of these beings, clothes,
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Speaker 1: these jumpsuits, which with having no zippers or buttons or
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Speaker 1: anything like this. We hear this all the time. Also
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Speaker 1: interesting was his description of their physical appearance, because when
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Speaker 1: people describe human like ets, they will often describe them
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Speaker 1: as being genetically flawless, having very clear skin, really attractive.
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Speaker 1: So we're seeing all these details again and again in
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Speaker 1: Sid's case, as well as in other cases. But now
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Speaker 1: let's get to the next aspect of his case, which
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Speaker 1: is super interesting to me because there's not a lot
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Speaker 1: of people who are able to get a bunch of
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Speaker 1: information from the ETS, but Sid certainly did, and in fact,
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Speaker 1: he held a very long conversation with the ETS and
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Speaker 1: learned all kinds of things. So let's get to the conversation.
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Speaker 1: So now that Sid was on board the craft and
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Speaker 1: confronted by this human looking apparent at a long conversation followed,
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Speaker 1: during which the man invited Sid to ask him any questions,
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Speaker 1: and as Sid says, one of the very first things
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Speaker 1: he said to me was he said, we can speak
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Speaker 1: any language, but I am the only one on this
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Speaker 1: craft who can speak your language. Now, mind you, he
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Speaker 1: did not say English, he said language. I assume what
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Speaker 1: he meant by that that they could speak any language
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Speaker 1: in the universe. He also said, you may ask any
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Speaker 1: question you like, but you know something. He didn't make
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Speaker 1: any mention of whether or not he'd answer them. He
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Speaker 1: just said I could ask them. I was still quite frightened,
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Speaker 1: but I realized I was involved in a fantastic situation
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Speaker 1: and managed to ask questions. It took me fifteen minutes
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Speaker 1: for me to ask the first question. I was so
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Speaker 1: darn scared. I received the impression that he was as
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Speaker 1: curious about me as I was about him. But he
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Speaker 1: didn't ask questions. So in fact SID did all the
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Speaker 1: questioning in these are the questions SID asked, Perhaps not
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Speaker 1: in perfect order, but SID asked him, how do you
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Speaker 1: evade our radar? The e T replied, the whole of
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Speaker 1: our spacecraft absorbs energy and will not allow a reflection
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Speaker 1: or harmful penetration. SID later elaborated on this, saying, and
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Speaker 1: I quote he said their craft was double huled, that
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Speaker 1: the inner hall absorbed energy but would not allow a
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Speaker 1: reflection as we know it. SID also remarked on another
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Speaker 1: strange aspect of this queue and a conversation. As SID says,
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Speaker 1: every question I asked him, he would pause for about
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Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty seconds before he would answer, regardless
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Speaker 1: of how minor it was. But it was very expressive,
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Speaker 1: to the point that he did not falter. He made
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Speaker 1: no mistake. He spoke just as plain as anyone I
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Speaker 1: have ever heard, and to the point perhaps he was
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Speaker 1: getting instructions mentally in what response to give. I think
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Speaker 1: that if the crew communicated with each other, it was
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Speaker 1: through mental telepathy, because I could see nothing that would
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Speaker 1: indicate communication otherwise. So SID continued to pepper him with questions.
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Speaker 1: SID asked him, have you ever been attacked? The ET responded, no,
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Speaker 1: not this craft. SID asked, have you ever tried to
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Speaker 1: communicate with countries on Earth? The ET replied no. All
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Speaker 1: nations have a tendency to attack unknown objects without warning
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Speaker 1: your nation and all nations will attack an unknown object
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Speaker 1: for purposes of destruction without cause. SID asked, are you alone?
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Speaker 1: The ET replied no. Look out this special window and
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Speaker 1: you will see our navigation craft. Did later elaborated and
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Speaker 1: explained that the ET showed him what he described as
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Speaker 1: a quote glass like plate. This showed what the ET
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Speaker 1: told him was a quote navigation craft. It was very
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Speaker 1: high in the sky above him, Sid said that it
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Speaker 1: looked like a big silver cigar, so he continued to
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Speaker 1: ask questions. He asked them, do you have means of
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Speaker 1: attacking anyone? And the ET replied no, not this craft,
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Speaker 1: but the navigation craft can counter attacks from many lights away.
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Speaker 1: SID ask them, where are you from? The ET replied,
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Speaker 1: our home is on the other side of a planet
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Speaker 1: what you can observe from Earth. We are from a
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Speaker 1: planet which you don't see because it is hidden by
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Speaker 1: a planet which you do see. So this was a
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Speaker 1: very puzzling answer, and this caused all kinds of controversy.
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Speaker 1: But Sid elaborated on this answer. As Sid says, he
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Speaker 1: told me where they were from in terms I did
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Speaker 1: not understand. I don't know much about space. I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be sure their world is in the Solar System. He
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Speaker 1: told me they were from a planet in back of
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Speaker 1: a planet which we observe, but we do not observe them.
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Speaker 1: He did not say that we couldn't observe them. He
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Speaker 1: merely said we didn't observe them. He said that they
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Speaker 1: had been here before, but not how many times or
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Speaker 1: when their most recent visit was. He did say they
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Speaker 1: would come again, so Sid would later speculate about this,
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Speaker 1: that perhaps they were from our solar system, and the answer,
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Speaker 1: again given to him by the ets, would become another
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Speaker 1: matter of much discussion and controversy. Meanwhile, he continued to
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Speaker 1: ask more questions. SID ask them how far is your
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Speaker 1: home from us? The ET replied, we are not in
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Speaker 1: terms of miles or days. We operate in terms of light.
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Speaker 1: So SID ask them how far is your planet from ours?
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Speaker 1: The ET said a great distance away. How long did
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Speaker 1: it take you to get here? And the ETI replied
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Speaker 1: many lights. So the ET repeatedly used the term lights
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Speaker 1: to describe time and distance. SID was definitely puzzled by this,
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Speaker 1: and he later elaborated on this, and he says, and
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Speaker 1: I quote He told me they do not measure time
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Speaker 1: and distance as we know it, but rather in terms
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Speaker 1: of light. When I asked him how fast they traveled
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Speaker 1: through space, he answered that their speed was limited only
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Speaker 1: by the speed at which they could transfer their energy source.
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Speaker 1: He said that this craft I was on was not
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Speaker 1: propelled by its own power source, but rather through a
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Speaker 1: power transmitted to them on a light beam or on
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Speaker 1: a light source known only to them. So this Q
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Speaker 1: and A session continued. Sid asked, have you been here before?
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Speaker 1: The ET said yes, to this planet. SID ask them,
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Speaker 1: why are you here? The ET said for explore oratory
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Speaker 1: purposes only. SID then asked are you human and the
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Speaker 1: ET said yes, we are human in our own way,
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Speaker 1: but not your type. SID ask them do you eat
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Speaker 1: and the ET said yes, in our own way. SID
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Speaker 1: asked do you sleep and the ET said yes, in
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Speaker 1: our own way, but not as you know it. We
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Speaker 1: relax for long periods of time. SID then asked do
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Speaker 1: you live like us at this time and the ET
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Speaker 1: replied yes, in our own way. SID then asked are
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Speaker 1: there others on this craft? The ET said yes, there
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Speaker 1: are eight others. SID asked, well I get to see
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Speaker 1: them and the ET said yes. Later SID asked, how
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Speaker 1: did you pick me for this experience? The reply was
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Speaker 1: really interesting? The ET said, we did not pick you.
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Speaker 1: It was your choice. You are the first person to
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Speaker 1: ever come aboard this ship. We have invited many before,
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Speaker 1: but they were frightened away. Did then asked do you
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Speaker 1: live like us? And the ET replied we live in
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Speaker 1: a similar manner to you, but we are much more
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Speaker 1: respectful to the Supreme. There are more questions and answers
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Speaker 1: the ET told Sid that they powered their craft with
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Speaker 1: quote energy transferred through a light source known to them.
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Speaker 1: Sid would later say I didn't know what he was
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Speaker 1: talking about. Sid asked them how the ship was constructed,
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Speaker 1: how fast they could go, how they communicate, but the
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Speaker 1: ET declined to answer some of these questions. At one point,
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Speaker 1: the ET did ask Sid if the scientists of Earth
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Speaker 1: had developed a system of transferring energy by a light source,
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Speaker 1: and Sid replied that he didn't know. The ET did
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Speaker 1: mention that every planet has a distinct means of identification,
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Speaker 1: which is by examining the magnetic poles. Now, there was
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Speaker 1: a point during Sid's on board experience that the ET
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Speaker 1: asked him how much time he had before he needed
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Speaker 1: to return home, and Sid assured him that he had
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Speaker 1: plenty of time. It's very interesting and I think important
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Speaker 1: and insightful details to what Sid is describing, particularly how
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Speaker 1: the ET would pause before answering each question. Sid mentioned
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Speaker 1: the possibility of telepathy going on, and we certainly see
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Speaker 1: that in a lot of accounts, though in his case,
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Speaker 1: he spoke verbally with these ets, and that does often
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Speaker 1: happen when people are talking to human looking ets, So
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Speaker 1: that is super interesting. Also the way the ET talked
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Speaker 1: about their use of light in terms of measuring distance
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Speaker 1: and time. This does come up in other cases. You
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Speaker 1: can tell that SID was a bit over his head
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Speaker 1: in trying to understand some of what the ets were saying.
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Speaker 1: But we know that the ET's use of light is
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Speaker 1: off the charts, well beyond our own comprehension. For example,
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Speaker 1: they use light to of course levitate people up into
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Speaker 1: their craft, render solid objects permeable, heal people do all
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Speaker 1: kinds of things with light that we are only just
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Speaker 1: beginning to understand. Another thing I found interesting, which is
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Speaker 1: a matter of controversy in his case, was the ET's
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Speaker 1: response to their origins. Again, he admitted himself that he
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Speaker 1: was a little bit uncomprehending of what the ET was
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Speaker 1: trying to tell him. This is not unusual when people
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Speaker 1: ask ets about their origins. They can sometimes be somewhat
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Speaker 1: evasive or simply not answer, or give an answer that
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Speaker 1: doesn't quite make sense to the contact ee. So I
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Speaker 1: don't find this the least bit surprising, and in fact,
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Speaker 1: again I think this adds to the credibility of his case. Also,
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Speaker 1: the warnings about how violent we are as a species. Again,
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Speaker 1: all details we hear over and over again in CONTACTEA cases.
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Speaker 1: I want to move to the next aspect of his case,
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Speaker 1: which is super fascinating once again, where he is given
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Speaker 1: a tour of the craft. This is not at all unusual. Now.
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Speaker 1: Sid does admit that there was probably some other questions
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Speaker 1: he asked that he couldn't remember or were just so
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Speaker 1: minor he didn't feel like repeating them. But that seems
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Speaker 1: to be the gist of the conversation. But after this
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Speaker 1: lengthy conversation, Sid was given a tour of the craft
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Speaker 1: and was introduced to the other crew members. There were
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Speaker 1: seven men and one woman. As Sid says, he told
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Speaker 1: me they could speak any language among them, but that
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Speaker 1: he was the only one who could speak mine. He
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Speaker 1: had no accent whatsoever. They seemed to communicate between themselves
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Speaker 1: with hand gestures and perhaps facial gestures. By our standards,
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Speaker 1: I would say they all looked between twenty and twenty
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Speaker 1: five years old, very young, hurt, energetic, and intelligent looking.
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Speaker 1: The men's hair was short and wavy. All had dark
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Speaker 1: auburn colored hair. They had light skin, very light. There
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Speaker 1: was only one feature I noticed that their face came
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Speaker 1: to a point much more than ours. They had sharp
22:14
Speaker 1: chins and noses. As for the eyes, there was nothing
22:17
Speaker 1: unusual about them their brightness, depth, or luminescence. I would say.
22:22
Speaker 1: Their fingers were a little longer than mine. The hands
22:25
Speaker 1: were very clean. The finger nails looked as if somebody
22:28
Speaker 1: had just given them a manicure. All of them were
22:32
Speaker 1: wearing two piece suits, slip on type suits, light bluish
22:36
Speaker 1: white in color, the same color as the walls. There
22:39
Speaker 1: was a large band in the middle and large cuffs
22:42
Speaker 1: and a very large collar that came down with a
22:44
Speaker 1: V neck. The collar had a pretty design to it.
22:48
Speaker 1: They had no buttons or zippers on them that I
22:50
Speaker 1: could see. The bottom section actually included the shoes. It
22:55
Speaker 1: looked like boots which continued on up to the waistline
22:58
Speaker 1: without any break in the ankle, just like a child's snowsuit.
23:02
Speaker 1: I could hear them walking with a thump thump sound
23:05
Speaker 1: on the rubbery like floor. Now, when he was introduced
23:09
Speaker 1: to the other UFO occupants, they scarcely acknowledged Sid's presence
23:15
Speaker 1: and gave him only a cursory glance and continued their
23:18
Speaker 1: work with instrument panels. They never smiled, They didn't laugh
23:22
Speaker 1: or tell jokes. Everyone was very serious. SID did notice
23:26
Speaker 1: one curious aspect of his guide's behavior. His guide had
23:31
Speaker 1: the habit of always keeping his right side facing Sid,
23:35
Speaker 1: which Sid found odd enough to mention. Now, Sid does
23:39
Speaker 1: describe the interior of the craft in very familiar terms.
23:43
Speaker 1: As Sid says, the walls, floors, and ceiling were all
23:48
Speaker 1: the same shade of pale bluish white. There were no
23:52
Speaker 1: square corners any place. Everything was rounded. Corners, doorways, seats,
23:59
Speaker 1: anything moved or even fixed corners of rooms were all rounded.
24:04
Speaker 1: The light seemed to come right through the walls. There
24:07
Speaker 1: was no direct lighting whatever. In other words, the whole
24:11
Speaker 1: wall was lit. Now. During this tour, at one point
24:14
Speaker 1: they showed him an image of their own planet, which
24:17
Speaker 1: she said was like a photograph fixed to the wall,
24:20
Speaker 1: but different, and as Sid says, he said, this is
24:24
Speaker 1: where we live. It showed buildings in the background. Every
24:28
Speaker 1: building in that picture was rounded off, half moon shaped.
24:32
Speaker 1: I saw windows in the buildings. I cannot say the
24:35
Speaker 1: picture looked like anything I had ever seen before, because
24:38
Speaker 1: the buildings were spaced differently, offset from each other. It
24:42
Speaker 1: looked like they put one fifty feet from another in
24:45
Speaker 1: the next one one hundred and fifty feet. There appeared
24:48
Speaker 1: to be roads in the distance. There was foliage in
24:51
Speaker 1: the foreground, trees and brush. The photo was a shade
24:55
Speaker 1: of gray, very sharp in detail. You could see every
24:59
Speaker 1: feature of it. Now. At one point the etist told
25:02
Speaker 1: him that they believed in God in the same way
25:05
Speaker 1: we do, but that some are more loyal to him,
25:09
Speaker 1: and they also explained to him some of their advanced technology.
25:13
Speaker 1: He was shown their instrument panels, but he was not
25:15
Speaker 1: allowed to go near them, and a lot of this
25:18
Speaker 1: was really above his head in terms of trying to
25:20
Speaker 1: understand them. As Sid says, every room that was occupied
25:26
Speaker 1: had instrument panels on the walls. Some rooms had four
25:29
Speaker 1: or five instruments, others had fifteen or twenty, but they
25:33
Speaker 1: were similar types in each room. They were nothing like ours.
25:37
Speaker 1: I didn't get closer to any of the walls that
25:40
Speaker 1: had the movable instruments on him because when I started
25:43
Speaker 1: to advance in the first room, he held out his
25:46
Speaker 1: hand for me not to advance, and I didn't either.
25:50
Speaker 1: He didn't say why, and I didn't ask. He said
25:54
Speaker 1: that they lit up when in use. Now, during his
25:58
Speaker 1: time aboard the craft, the et said, we are moving,
26:02
Speaker 1: and the ship took off and moved to another location.
26:05
Speaker 1: Sid said that he felt no sense of movement or
26:07
Speaker 1: acceleration or deceleration, and the craft landed in apparently another
26:12
Speaker 1: location on Earth, and Sid was told and allowed to
26:16
Speaker 1: disembark for a few moments, and he did, and he
26:20
Speaker 1: saw that they were somewhere in the mountains. He was
26:23
Speaker 1: unable to immediately identify the location, but he was told
26:26
Speaker 1: that they were in this location so that they would
26:30
Speaker 1: not be seen by outside observers, and for another very
26:33
Speaker 1: special reason, as Sid says, after we landed on the hillside,
26:38
Speaker 1: he told me to step out so that I could
26:40
Speaker 1: come back to the place later to know that this
26:43
Speaker 1: was real and not dreamed. I stepped out alone and
26:48
Speaker 1: walked around the outside of the ship. I felt the hull.
26:52
Speaker 1: It seemed hard, but not metallic. I never felt anything
26:55
Speaker 1: like it before. The closest thing on Earth would be
26:58
Speaker 1: a windshield plexic. It had a very fine finish, a
27:03
Speaker 1: very highly polished finish. I was outside for not more
27:07
Speaker 1: than three minutes. I got down and looked at the
27:09
Speaker 1: legs it was on and tried to find markings on it.
27:12
Speaker 1: I didn't find a mark on it any place. What's
27:15
Speaker 1: really interesting is Sid did later find this area, which
27:19
Speaker 1: turned out to be one hundred and seventy five miles
27:21
Speaker 1: northwest of Watsonville, near Leggett to California. Sid was brought
27:26
Speaker 1: back into the craft and once again he was placed
27:29
Speaker 1: in the room with the intensely bright white light for
27:33
Speaker 1: just one minute, which reinforced his belief that this was
27:36
Speaker 1: to remove any bacteria or contaminants. During his tour of
27:41
Speaker 1: the craft, Sid saw that the craft had two levels
27:44
Speaker 1: that he was aware of, but he believes there may
27:46
Speaker 1: have been a third level. He saw about fourteen rooms total.
27:51
Speaker 1: These rooms were small, squarish but with rounded edges, and
27:55
Speaker 1: he was taken into a room on the right. First
27:59
Speaker 1: he saw instrument panels, again all highly complex. On the
28:02
Speaker 1: far end of five of these rooms, each of which
28:05
Speaker 1: had one chair, Sid said that there was quote an
28:09
Speaker 1: extraordinary quantity of extremely complex dashboards. There was one room
28:14
Speaker 1: with three chairs, a cabinet of food supplies, and an elevator.
28:19
Speaker 1: One room had cabinets and a bed. The center of
28:22
Speaker 1: the craft had a fully enclosed area that he was
28:25
Speaker 1: not privy to, and this turned out to be the
28:27
Speaker 1: same for the second floor. Sid did draw naps of
28:31
Speaker 1: all of this. He did notice that the chairs were
28:34
Speaker 1: upholstered with a kind of silk like material, but as
28:37
Speaker 1: Sid says, it was not silk, as best as I
28:41
Speaker 1: could tell, was a very high quality looking material, and
28:45
Speaker 1: the seats were covered with approximately the same kind of material,
28:48
Speaker 1: except a little bit darker. So he was taken to
28:51
Speaker 1: the elevator by his guide. He didn't recognize it as
28:55
Speaker 1: an elevator until he suddenly found himself on the second floor.
28:59
Speaker 1: He said, the second floor had seven rooms, much like
29:02
Speaker 1: the first. Four had instrument panels on the far wall,
29:06
Speaker 1: one of course, had the elevator in it. All of
29:10
Speaker 1: them had chairs. One room had a lot of computer
29:13
Speaker 1: like instruments, and it was in this room that he
29:15
Speaker 1: saw the only female on board. Sid said that she
29:19
Speaker 1: had very long hair which was pushed down and tucked
29:22
Speaker 1: under her clothing. And as Sid says, we didn't go
29:25
Speaker 1: into the room she was in. We just passed by
29:28
Speaker 1: the door, so I didn't get a close look at her,
29:31
Speaker 1: but I did see she was very pretty. Now, this
29:35
Speaker 1: woman was the last crew person that Zeno the et
29:39
Speaker 1: showed Sid. The fire room was what they called a
29:42
Speaker 1: consultation room. It had eight chairs, and what Sid either
29:47
Speaker 1: perceived or was told was a quote warshiping altar, and
29:52
Speaker 1: he was in fact invited by the et to pay
29:55
Speaker 1: his respects. This was one of the most confusing and
29:59
Speaker 1: really intent. It's part of the whole on board encounter.
30:02
Speaker 1: Sid did believe in God, but he was not overly religious,
30:06
Speaker 1: and I'll just let him describe what happened, as Sid says,
30:10
Speaker 1: he referred to it only as the consultation room. The
30:14
Speaker 1: color effect in that room was so pretty that I
30:16
Speaker 1: almost fainted when I went in a mixture of many
30:19
Speaker 1: beautiful colors. I can't describe it. He said, would you
30:24
Speaker 1: like to pay your respects to the Supreme Deity? When
30:28
Speaker 1: he said that, I almost fainted. I didn't know how
30:31
Speaker 1: to accept it. I said to him, we have one,
30:34
Speaker 1: but we call it God. Are we talking about the
30:37
Speaker 1: same thing? He replied, there's only one. So I knelt
30:41
Speaker 1: on the little stool and I did my usual prayer.
30:44
Speaker 1: I'm forty five years old and until that night I
30:47
Speaker 1: had never felt the presence of the Supreme Being. But
30:51
Speaker 1: I did feel him that night. It was a very
30:54
Speaker 1: relieved and very exciting feeling, something that would lift you
30:58
Speaker 1: up right out of your steps. Now. Sid ultimately believed
31:02
Speaker 1: that this was one of the reasons he was taken
31:04
Speaker 1: on board, but again he can't say why he was chosen.
31:08
Speaker 1: He does believe there was a third floor, but he
31:11
Speaker 1: was not given access to it. He said that the
31:14
Speaker 1: beings were both scientific and spiritual, and said, I wouldn't
31:18
Speaker 1: classify Zeno as a scientific person. It's obvious that they
31:22
Speaker 1: are on a very high scientific level, but their relationship
31:26
Speaker 1: with the Supreme Being means a lot more to them
31:29
Speaker 1: than their technical and scientific ability and knowledge. I would
31:33
Speaker 1: say that their religion and their science are all in one. Now.
31:37
Speaker 1: At this point, the et told him, as you know it,
31:41
Speaker 1: we have no sickness, we have no crime, we have
31:44
Speaker 1: no vice, we have no police force, we have no schools.
31:48
Speaker 1: Are young, are taught at an early age to do
31:51
Speaker 1: a job, which they do very well because of our
31:55
Speaker 1: long life expectancy. We have very strict birth control, no money.
32:01
Speaker 1: We live as one. So after Zeno showed Sid the
32:05
Speaker 1: consultation room with the altar, Sid says that the strain
32:09
Speaker 1: of this whole experience began to overwhelm him and he
32:12
Speaker 1: actually broke down and cried. Finally, after about two hours,
32:17
Speaker 1: the experience came to an end and Sid asked him
32:21
Speaker 1: will I ever see you again? The et said, we
32:24
Speaker 1: will return, but will be undetected. Because we know the
32:28
Speaker 1: movements of your ships and aircraft, and we always move
32:31
Speaker 1: by darkness or cloud cover, we can see small movements
32:35
Speaker 1: for many lights. So Sid was escorted out of the craft,
32:39
Speaker 1: which was now at the original location where he had
32:42
Speaker 1: been picked up. What's so interesting about this aspect of
32:45
Speaker 1: Sid's case to me is that this is something that
32:49
Speaker 1: many contactees describe. In fact, Thomas Bullard was the first
32:54
Speaker 1: to do a statistical analysis of onboard experiences and he
32:58
Speaker 1: describes that people are often given a tour of the
33:01
Speaker 1: craft and I certainly see this over and over again.
33:06
Speaker 1: So this definitely aligns with all the other contact cases
33:11
Speaker 1: that we have in the UFO literature. Another detail that
33:17
Speaker 1: is very familiar, certainly is since description of the craft
33:21
Speaker 1: having no direct light source, everything just sort of being illuminated.
33:26
Speaker 1: That's very common. All the edges being rounded, again, something
33:30
Speaker 1: contact he's almost universally described. Also, he said he saw
33:35
Speaker 1: equipment that was so advanced he had trouble describing it.
33:39
Speaker 1: We see that over and over again. Also really interesting
33:43
Speaker 1: is how the etis described how advanced their society was
33:47
Speaker 1: in terms of having overcome crime and disease and these
33:50
Speaker 1: sort of things. The most fascinating aspect to me is
33:54
Speaker 1: the spiritual aspect, where he was taken to a room
33:58
Speaker 1: and felt the presence of the Supreme Being. This again
34:03
Speaker 1: is not unusual. Betty Andreasen talked about this. I've heard
34:07
Speaker 1: this in a number of accounts. I think Jim Sparks
34:10
Speaker 1: also mentioned this. So this is another little detail that's
34:15
Speaker 1: certainly not well known, but absolutely is consistently reported. But
34:21
Speaker 1: now let's move to the aftermath of Sid Patrick's encounter,
34:27
Speaker 1: because that has some fascinating elements in and of itself.
34:30
Speaker 1: Sid stepped out of the craft and moved away. The
34:33
Speaker 1: door closed and the craft rose slowly upwards and finally
34:38
Speaker 1: disappeared from view. Sid was still frightened, but after his encounter,
34:43
Speaker 1: he was left with the impression that the Ets were
34:45
Speaker 1: peaceful and benevolent. He did wonder about their claims that
34:49
Speaker 1: their mission was purely exploratory and elaborated. Quote. I think
34:53
Speaker 1: it was more than that. As Sid says, they are
34:57
Speaker 1: people just like you and me, and we have nothing
35:00
Speaker 1: to fear from them. I do not think they were angels.
35:03
Speaker 1: I do not think they were robots, and I don't
35:05
Speaker 1: think these people will ever pose a problem to us
35:09
Speaker 1: or go into any activities with us that would endanger lives.
35:13
Speaker 1: From my one visit with them, I am fairly certain
35:16
Speaker 1: this will never take place. Now, he believes that the
35:18
Speaker 1: purpose of the encounter was more for him than it
35:22
Speaker 1: was for them. Alzino had said that they came for observation,
35:26
Speaker 1: only Sid believes it was more about announcing their presence
35:30
Speaker 1: to him and all humanity. As Sid says, I don't
35:34
Speaker 1: think it meant for them to observe us. I think
35:37
Speaker 1: it was more for me to observe them. Because he
35:40
Speaker 1: did not ask me at any time my name, my age,
35:44
Speaker 1: how many teeth I had, how many members of my family.
35:47
Speaker 1: He didn't ask me one thing about myself. And this
35:50
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they know about us already,
35:53
Speaker 1: and he came for us to observe them. He did
35:57
Speaker 1: say they would come for further observations. I think they
36:00
Speaker 1: are observing people. Mostly. There was no mention of earthquakes,
36:04
Speaker 1: fault lines, or of anything government wise or political wise,
36:08
Speaker 1: or anything that would affect our future, except that they
36:11
Speaker 1: gave me the impression that they will pick up more
36:14
Speaker 1: people in the future. Now. Sid told nobody at first,
36:18
Speaker 1: except for his family, who were none too happy about it.
36:21
Speaker 1: He said. He did tell a friend who worked for
36:23
Speaker 1: a newspaper, but as Sid said, I knew he could
36:27
Speaker 1: keep the secret. Now, this friend, Sid did not say
36:30
Speaker 1: who it was, encouraged him to report his encounter to
36:33
Speaker 1: the Air Force. So after some thought, Sid did exactly this. Now,
36:39
Speaker 1: as it turns out, there were some other sightings around
36:42
Speaker 1: the same time as Sid's experience. There were some recent
36:46
Speaker 1: sightings by several park rangers in the area, which gave
36:49
Speaker 1: some credence to his account. As a newspaper account reads, quote,
36:54
Speaker 1: a crew of Santa Clara County park rangers reported a
36:58
Speaker 1: disc like thing over the Hecker Mountains east of Watsonville
37:02
Speaker 1: on December twenty eighth. This was one month prior to
37:06
Speaker 1: Sid's encounter. Further stunning verification came from a highly reputable source,
37:11
Speaker 1: none other than George M. Clemens, who was the mayor
37:15
Speaker 1: of the neighboring city of Monterrey, who observed a quote,
37:20
Speaker 1: bright object which was hovering over Monterey Bay on the
37:24
Speaker 1: evening of January twenty nine. This is the night prior
37:28
Speaker 1: to Sid's encounter, so that's pretty good corroboration. Now, Sid
37:32
Speaker 1: did go back to the site of his encounter the
37:35
Speaker 1: very next day and found some evidence that the craft
37:38
Speaker 1: had been there. As he says, it was a scorch
37:41
Speaker 1: like effect. It dug a little hole, and it actually
37:44
Speaker 1: left a burnmark. Now, he did take photos, but sadly
37:48
Speaker 1: these photos have never been published as far as I know.
37:52
Speaker 1: He did reportedly show these photos during some of his
37:54
Speaker 1: later lectures, but I was not able to confirm this,
37:57
Speaker 1: and there were continuing sightings in this area, including one
38:01
Speaker 1: year later in nineteen sixty seven, which involved four policemen
38:05
Speaker 1: who viewed UFOs blinking colored lights that absolutely convinced them
38:10
Speaker 1: were not conventional. You can see that this encounter affected
38:14
Speaker 1: SID profoundly, and I've got some more to say about
38:16
Speaker 1: that a little later. But important here was I think
38:19
Speaker 1: that the fact that there was some confirmation of his
38:23
Speaker 1: encounter in the terms of their being citings both before
38:27
Speaker 1: and after his account, So that's not direct corroboration, but
38:33
Speaker 1: certainly it's some Also really interesting is that he says
38:38
Speaker 1: that there were landing traces in the parking lot where
38:42
Speaker 1: this craft hovered. It's a shame that this wasn't documented
38:47
Speaker 1: more thoroughly. On that all this evidence that he apparently
38:52
Speaker 1: has has been lost to posterity. Maybe someday it will
38:55
Speaker 1: show up. But again, a super fascinating case, and it
38:59
Speaker 1: Jessica even more interesting considering what happened next when the
39:04
Speaker 1: Air Force becomes involved. What's so interesting about Sid Padrick's
39:10
Speaker 1: account is that the Air Force showed great interest in
39:13
Speaker 1: his experience. In fact, he was questioned by Major Damon B.
39:18
Speaker 1: Reader of Hamilton Air Force Base, who grilled him for
39:22
Speaker 1: no less than three hours on every single detail of
39:25
Speaker 1: his experience. They then asked him not to talk publicly
39:29
Speaker 1: about his encounter, As Sid says, they wanted an account
39:34
Speaker 1: of it word for word. I told him exactly what
39:37
Speaker 1: had happened. They were the first to hear it. There
39:40
Speaker 1: were certain details they asked me not to talk about publicly,
39:44
Speaker 1: but I think in telling it that everything should be disclosed.
39:48
Speaker 1: I see no reason for anything being held back. They
39:51
Speaker 1: didn't want me to say that the space people had
39:53
Speaker 1: no money now, particularly said Sid. They did not want
39:58
Speaker 1: him to discuss the interior of the the craft or
40:00
Speaker 1: the technology inside as Sid says, the Air Force asked
40:05
Speaker 1: me not to discuss it in detail. They did not
40:08
Speaker 1: want me to disclose the type and shape of the
40:10
Speaker 1: craft that would indicate the Air Force's not doing its duty.
40:15
Speaker 1: I told them I could see no reason for that.
40:17
Speaker 1: They didn't want me to divulge their means of communication
40:21
Speaker 1: and where they got their power from. Also, the man's name,
40:24
Speaker 1: they told me I should never repeat that because it
40:27
Speaker 1: didn't mean anything. Now again, there was a lot of
40:30
Speaker 1: discussion about the ET's name Zeno. Actually, the word zeno
40:34
Speaker 1: is Greek for stranger or foreigner. For example, the word
40:38
Speaker 1: xenophobia means fear of strangers. Now, a major reader not
40:42
Speaker 1: only interviewed Sid, but reportedly interviewed several local citizens who
40:46
Speaker 1: knew Sid and vouched for his reliability. Now, there was
40:50
Speaker 1: another Air Force investigator, a gentleman by the name of
40:54
Speaker 1: Lester David pat Cody, the director of Aerospace Education at
40:58
Speaker 1: Hamilton Air Force Base, also researched the case and spoke
41:02
Speaker 1: to Sid firsthand. He writes that sid quote seemed sincere
41:06
Speaker 1: to me during the interview, and both of us, he
41:09
Speaker 1: and his wife agreed he had either been in this
41:12
Speaker 1: craft or had had such a vivid dream that he
41:15
Speaker 1: believed he had. Now the Air Force documents recording this
41:19
Speaker 1: conversation have been released, and they described Sid's encounter in
41:23
Speaker 1: some detail. Reportedly, the interviews by Major Damon Reader were
41:27
Speaker 1: forwarded to Project Blue Book at write Patterson Air Force Base,
41:31
Speaker 1: and we know this is true. It's Blue Book case
41:33
Speaker 1: number nine two five six. Reportedly, Major Reader, soon to
41:38
Speaker 1: be a lieutenant colonel, speculated that Sid was hoping to
41:41
Speaker 1: get the Air Force involved to lend credibility to his case.
41:46
Speaker 1: I couldn't verify this, This might be a rumor. At
41:49
Speaker 1: any rate. Sid was ultimately not happy with the Air Force,
41:52
Speaker 1: as he says, they tried to frighten me. They said,
41:57
Speaker 1: mister Padrick, you are a real lucky person. These craft
42:01
Speaker 1: that come down here are hostile and you had no
42:03
Speaker 1: business even approaching them. I disagreed with them, because when
42:07
Speaker 1: this craft came down, they did not want to frighten me.
42:11
Speaker 1: They did not tell me to go aboard their craft.
42:13
Speaker 1: They invited me aboard now. In a lecture, Sid later
42:17
Speaker 1: said that the Air Force gave him sodium pentathal truth
42:20
Speaker 1: serum and actually hooked him up to a lie detector test,
42:23
Speaker 1: which he passed, as Sid says, they told me the
42:27
Speaker 1: report was very satisfactory. Now, remember Sid initially did not
42:32
Speaker 1: want to talk about his case at all, and he
42:34
Speaker 1: was convinced to report it. What's super interesting to me
42:39
Speaker 1: is that the Air Force took his case very seriously,
42:42
Speaker 1: and this is not a matter of speculation. Again, we
42:45
Speaker 1: have the documents as you've seen, that proves that they
42:48
Speaker 1: took his case very seriously and apparently found it to
42:53
Speaker 1: be quite credible. But whenever anyone goes public, sooner or later,
42:58
Speaker 1: there's going to be debunkers and people who are skeptical.
43:02
Speaker 1: That's natural someone has an encounter like this, there's a
43:07
Speaker 1: lot of interest. So it's no surprise that there is
43:12
Speaker 1: some controversy surrounding Sid Padrick's case. So let's get into
43:17
Speaker 1: the controversies. So his word leaked out about Sid's experience,
43:21
Speaker 1: he did start giving several lectures about his case, and
43:24
Speaker 1: he granted several interviews in the days and months following
43:27
Speaker 1: his encounter. In his early interviews, he obeyed the Air
43:31
Speaker 1: Force and refused to reveal many of the details about
43:34
Speaker 1: his experience. He told reporters again that during his encounter
43:38
Speaker 1: he was quote frightened very much so all the time,
43:42
Speaker 1: and added I didn't know what Zeno was talking about.
43:46
Speaker 1: Sid said that before he went public, he was afraid
43:49
Speaker 1: and was actually warned by several others that there would
43:52
Speaker 1: be a huge backlash of skepticism and ridicule, but he
43:56
Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised by the positive reaction he received from
44:00
Speaker 1: the public. As Sid says, I was severely warned before
44:04
Speaker 1: a release of this info to the newspapers that I
44:07
Speaker 1: would become a subject of extreme persecution, ridicule, harassment and
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Speaker 1: vandalism by all people who have known me in the past. However,
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Speaker 1: I wish to make it known that something completely different
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Speaker 1: has taken place. I have had none of this. Every
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Speaker 1: person who knows me personally has called with very high
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Speaker 1: praise and congratulation. All letters I have received have been
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Speaker 1: from highly respected people throughout the country. I have received
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Speaker 1: hundreds of telephone calls from over the country from very
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Speaker 1: notable ministers, scientists, teachers, and college professors. Now Sid eventually
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Speaker 1: did reveal the entirety of his experience, and he even
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Speaker 1: planned to write a book about it. He ended up
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Speaker 1: borrowing one thousand dollars from a friend to finance the
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Speaker 1: writing and publishing of his book and recompense that his
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Speaker 1: friend will get a share of profits from the book. Now,
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Speaker 1: Sid says that the manuscript was completed and turned over
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Speaker 1: to an associate who loaned it to another man who
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Speaker 1: sadly lost it. His friend kept asking to see the book,
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Speaker 1: and unable to produce it, Sid's friend became disenchanted and
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Speaker 1: after repeated requests, finally took Sid to court. In nineteen seventy,
45:22
Speaker 1: Sid's friend filed suit and San Jose Municipal Court and
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Speaker 1: won a judgment of one thousand dollars against Sid Padrick,
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Speaker 1: the amount he had lent to Sid. So before long,
45:34
Speaker 1: Sid did withdraw from the public eye and stopped talking
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Speaker 1: about his experiences. Decades after his experience. In nineteen ninety two,
45:42
Speaker 1: Sid Padrick, then seventy two years old, wrote to a
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Speaker 1: newspaper describing his repetitive dreams that he'd had for more
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Speaker 1: than forty five years of flying over houses and trees
45:54
Speaker 1: and so forth. A dream researcher known only as Anthony,
45:59
Speaker 1: a columnist said that he thought, quote, you are actually
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Speaker 1: doing occasional out of body travel, which is very freeing
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Speaker 1: for you and gives you an edge on people. Who cannot.
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Speaker 1: I found that very interesting because this is another detail
46:13
Speaker 1: we often see with contact ease. Now. There were a
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Speaker 1: lot of supporters of Sid's case. Reverend Peter Tompkins, the
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Speaker 1: chaplain at the Veteran's Administration Hospital, personally heard Sid's story
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Speaker 1: and said, I have no reason to doubt it. I
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Speaker 1: believe it is perfectly true. Journalist Dave Nordstrand looked into
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Speaker 1: the case and he writes, I personally think Padrick was
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Speaker 1: a lucky man. I want to ride in a flying saucer.
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Speaker 1: Timothy good a very well known and respected researcher, wrote
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Speaker 1: about the case at length in his book Above Top Secret.
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Speaker 1: He researched it in depth, and after listening to a
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Speaker 1: two and a half hour audio tape lecture given by
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Speaker 1: Sid Padrick, he came away convinced. I'm giving you a
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Speaker 1: link to this lecture in the show notes if you
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Speaker 1: want to check it out. But as Timothy Goods says,
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Speaker 1: although I never met the reclusive Sid Padrick, based on
47:08
Speaker 1: the taped lecture I have listened to on many occasions,
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Speaker 1: I believe this story to be genuine. I have studied
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Speaker 1: every inflection of his voice in the recorded interview. I
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Speaker 1: am perfectly satisfied that he is telling the truth under
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Speaker 1: a barrage of cross questioning by civilian investigators at the time.
47:26
Speaker 1: His answers were always clear, precise, and without guile, and
47:30
Speaker 1: he was always quick to appreciate the humorous aspects of
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Speaker 1: the incredible situation he found himself in. Investigators from the
47:37
Speaker 1: publication The Little Listening Post conducted a lengthy interview with Sid,
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Speaker 1: which they published in their August October nineteen sixty five issue,
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Speaker 1: and as they write, we have played and replayed the tape,
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Speaker 1: giving it every kind of analysis under a barrage of
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Speaker 1: crossfire questions. His answers are instantaneous, direct, always clear and precise,
47:59
Speaker 1: and his tone without guile. A day long probe of
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Speaker 1: Padrick and the people of Las Alva Beach showed that
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Speaker 1: he has the backing of his community. Few there have
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Speaker 1: challenged his story. Eufologist Eileen Garut says that Sid Padrick
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Speaker 1: was her friend and that he actually stayed at her
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Speaker 1: house and she actually had a sighting with him. She
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Speaker 1: writes on the UFO Experiences blog quote, I also was
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Speaker 1: with him after his lecture, traveling in his friend Mike's
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Speaker 1: big white Cadillac. Sid said that they are above us,
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Speaker 1: and telling me not to talk about them anymore because
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Speaker 1: people here are not ready to understand. We stopped the
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Speaker 1: car and got out, and there was the ship above
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Speaker 1: our heads. When it was over our heads, it was
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Speaker 1: a round white form. That was the last time he
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Speaker 1: talked about his contact to the public. He was our
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Speaker 1: friend and a very nice person. I will always remember
48:51
Speaker 1: the time we spent with him, and that I got
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Speaker 1: to see their craft now. Eileen also reported that Sid
48:57
Speaker 1: told her that the Etes had give even him scientific
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Speaker 1: knowledge that allowed him to quote start inventing things. Course,
49:05
Speaker 1: not everyone was a believer. Researcher doctor James MacDonald was
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Speaker 1: skeptical of the case because of the religious aspects described
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Speaker 1: by Sid. Apro co founder Jim Lorenzen writes Aper members
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Speaker 1: who talked to him came away with the impression that
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Speaker 1: he was sincere. In his report, Jim Lorenzen was puzzled
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Speaker 1: about one thing regarding the ET's answer when Sid asked
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Speaker 1: about their origins. He called the answer quote a physical impossibility,
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Speaker 1: and that caused him to wonder if the experience might
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Speaker 1: have been psychological in origin. Researcher John Keel believed the
49:40
Speaker 1: account but he put forth a theory much like Jacques Vallet,
49:44
Speaker 1: that Ufo entities were spiritual trickster beings, that while Sid
49:48
Speaker 1: Padrick's account is genuine, he does not believe it was ets,
49:52
Speaker 1: and he pointed out the name of Zeno being a
49:54
Speaker 1: significant clue. He wrote, quote, Angels, elementals, and you uts
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Speaker 1: all play amusing games with their names, favoring minor variations
50:05
Speaker 1: on ancient languages. Although Patrick had no knowledge of Greek,
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Speaker 1: Zeno is the word for stranger in that language. I
50:13
Speaker 1: would ask people to do a little researching where they
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Speaker 1: think language actually came from. Our researcher Paul Serney of
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Speaker 1: NICAP said that after examining Sid's testimonies and statements, he
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Speaker 1: found over twenty five discrepancies, and that therefore NICAP did
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Speaker 1: not believe the case to be genuine. What exactly these
50:32
Speaker 1: discrepancies were was never revealed. Interestingly, Sid himself talks about
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Speaker 1: his meeting with Paul Serny. He says that Paul Serney
50:41
Speaker 1: said that since Sid was unable to bring back any
50:44
Speaker 1: physical alien artifacts, Paul would not believe his story. Now,
50:50
Speaker 1: Paul Serney did record an interview with Sid, and Sid
50:54
Speaker 1: and his wife later heard a portion of this tape,
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Speaker 1: and they were absolutely shocked and dismayed to hear that
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Speaker 1: the tape had not only been edited, but spliced in
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Speaker 1: with someone else's voice inserted, masquerading as Sid and saying
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Speaker 1: things that Sid never said, such as that Sid had
51:11
Speaker 1: tried to cut the rim of the craft when he
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Speaker 1: walked around it. Sid denies this, or that every chair
51:17
Speaker 1: on the craft was bolted down. Again, Sid denies this,
51:21
Speaker 1: as he says, I have never made such a statement.
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Speaker 1: They had several things on that tape which I never said,
51:28
Speaker 1: And in fact Sid played the tape to his wife
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Speaker 1: and she agreed that the inserts were not even Sid's voice.
51:34
Speaker 1: Perhaps the worst criticism comes from the editors of the
51:37
Speaker 1: UFO publication data Net. In the nineteen sixty seven number
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Speaker 1: nine issue of their publication, they wrote something of a
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Speaker 1: debunking hit piece in my Opinion on the case. They
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Speaker 1: said that apro researcher al Brown concluded that Patrick had
51:53
Speaker 1: hoaxed the event. Data Net claimed that Sid Patrick had
51:57
Speaker 1: filed for bankruptcy shortly before the end counter and that
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Speaker 1: the story must have therefore been concocted as a means
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Speaker 1: of making money. Apparently, their evidence for this claim was
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Speaker 1: one of Sid Padrick's neighbors, Charles Peterson, who told them
52:12
Speaker 1: that Sid Padrick quote did very good work, but that
52:15
Speaker 1: he was having money problems. They claimed that Sid tried
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Speaker 1: to unsuccessfully sell his story to several national magazines. Again
52:24
Speaker 1: no evidence was provided for these claims either, or their
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Speaker 1: claim that they talked to police who told them that
52:30
Speaker 1: Sid had been arrested in Santa Cruz for making threatening
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Speaker 1: phone calls, so I don't know about that. They also
52:37
Speaker 1: said that they tracked down Sid's son, David Padrick, who
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Speaker 1: they said called his father's story BS but refused to elaborate,
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Speaker 1: saying only I'd rather not talk about it. But the
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Speaker 1: son did add that his father never made any money
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Speaker 1: off the story. So again, no proof for any of
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Speaker 1: these claims was provided. Data Net writes it is the
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Speaker 1: conclusion of data Net that mister Sid Padrick did, in
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Speaker 1: fact fabricate his story of having boarded a spacecraft from
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Speaker 1: another planet and having met the leader of the occupants.
53:11
Speaker 1: I'm delighted to see that the response to Sid going
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Speaker 1: public with his encounters was overwhelmingly positive. He was received
53:20
Speaker 1: very well. He did a lot of lectures, as we
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Speaker 1: have seen. People showed great interest in his encounters. He
53:26
Speaker 1: got calls and letters from all over the world, people
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Speaker 1: coming to see him to hear more information. Super interesting.
53:34
Speaker 1: Of course, there are always debunkers and skeptics, and I'm
53:39
Speaker 1: really kind of disappointed with how Nightcap treated him, and
53:42
Speaker 1: certainly Sid himself said he was disappointed with the interaction
53:47
Speaker 1: with Nightcap. A word about Nightcap. Nightcap, the National Investigative
53:52
Speaker 1: Committee of Aerial Phenomena was originally founded by Donald Keeho,
53:57
Speaker 1: a huge pioneer in this field, a wonderful investigator, but
54:02
Speaker 1: he was very skeptical of humanoids and in fact, would
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Speaker 1: not touch any humanoid cases. And that's pretty much true
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Speaker 1: for Nightcap. Nightcap was overwhelmingly skeptical of humanoid reports, so
54:16
Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't be surprised about their feelings regarding
54:20
Speaker 1: the Sid Padrick case. But I was very disappointed to
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Speaker 1: hear that Sid's interview was apparently altered. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: one thing to be skeptical, and it's a completely other
54:33
Speaker 1: thing to hamper with evidence in the way that apparently
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Speaker 1: did happen with his case. So that really is concerning
54:41
Speaker 1: to me and makes me wonder about the objectivity of Nightcap,
54:46
Speaker 1: which I was already questioning given that they're so skeptical
54:50
Speaker 1: of humanoid reports. So let's move on. I want to
54:54
Speaker 1: give you some last words from the witness, Sid Padrick.
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Speaker 1: He was so deeply impacted by his encounter and the
55:05
Speaker 1: things he has to say about it are really very
55:08
Speaker 1: insightful and quite mind boggling. Actually. Now, according to some
55:12
Speaker 1: of the accounts on Sid Padrick's case, there is speculation
55:16
Speaker 1: or some reporting that the ets did return for Sid
55:19
Speaker 1: and he had further encounters with them, But if so,
55:23
Speaker 1: he never went public with them. Sid himself has never
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Speaker 1: retracted his account and he insists it really happened. As
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Speaker 1: he says, all I know is that this wasn't a dream.
55:35
Speaker 1: To me, it makes no difference whether anyone believes it
55:38
Speaker 1: or not. I know the Air Force believed it. I
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Speaker 1: know it from the standpoint that they did a lot
55:43
Speaker 1: of checking down here in the area. They were here
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Speaker 1: for quite some time after the incident, and they proved
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Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt that the craft was
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Speaker 1: in this area before and after the incident. This encounter
55:57
Speaker 1: has meant more to me than just a visit from
55:59
Speaker 1: people from out of space. It means that my life
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Speaker 1: has been lifted way, way up beyond what I could
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Speaker 1: have ever conceived of before. My understanding has grown to
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Speaker 1: such a great degree that I am even frightened by it.
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Speaker 1: Every day new things have come to me that I
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Speaker 1: could not have conceived of otherwise. I have not had
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Speaker 1: a day of sickness since then. I have not had
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Speaker 1: any sleepless nights. Since that night, I have not been
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Speaker 1: sick one day. I feel absolutely great. It gave me
56:30
Speaker 1: good eyesight, better eyesight than I had for years. I
56:34
Speaker 1: tell you, my health is absolutely remarkable since this incident
56:40
Speaker 1: took place. I have no fear. I have no fear
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Speaker 1: at all. I lost all fear these people when they came.
56:47
Speaker 1: They proved to me that you do not need to
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Speaker 1: fear death. This is why I no longer have any
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Speaker 1: fear for anything. It was the greatest evening in my
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Speaker 1: life that has ever happened. From that day, on which
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Speaker 1: it was January thirtieth of this year, I knew that
57:03
Speaker 1: I was being touched by the hand of God. That
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Speaker 1: was the first time I have ever felt it, and furthermore,
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Speaker 1: I have felt it ever since, not as strong as
57:12
Speaker 1: I felt it there, but I feel it every day.
57:15
Speaker 1: I know he's with me. I know it from a
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Speaker 1: physical standpoint, I know it from a health standpoint, I
57:21
Speaker 1: know it from a spiritual feeling standpoint. I know it
57:25
Speaker 1: from a lot of standpoints. I don't know why I
57:27
Speaker 1: can stand here and tell you this, but I know it.
57:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's with me. I can feel it.
57:34
Speaker 1: I feel a lot different than I've ever felt before.
57:37
Speaker 1: That is so profound. I really feel for sid Padrick.
57:42
Speaker 1: I wonder what became of him. I wasn't able to
57:44
Speaker 1: find any information about his current whereabouts by now. He
57:48
Speaker 1: has got to be passed on to the higher planes.
57:52
Speaker 1: But you can see how amazing this event was for him.
57:57
Speaker 1: He called it the absolute greatest evening in his entire life.
58:02
Speaker 1: It affected him in a very healing way. It supplied
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Speaker 1: him with all kinds of knowledge and improved his health.
58:11
Speaker 1: Absolutely had a positive effect on his life ultimately. So
58:16
Speaker 1: a very interesting case. I think again, it has a
58:20
Speaker 1: lot of details that speak to its authenticity. And although
58:24
Speaker 1: there are detractors, we see that there's a lot more supporters.
58:28
Speaker 1: And I think his case is certainly an important addition
58:30
Speaker 1: to our understanding of extratreastural contact. On this planet. So
58:35
Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed this episode, perhaps learned something new.
58:38
Speaker 1: Not sure if you've known of the Sid Patrick case,
58:41
Speaker 1: but I certainly learned some new details. So thanks again
58:44
Speaker 1: to the individual out there who suggested I cover this case.
58:47
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Was so fascinating. So that's it
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Speaker 1: for today, guys, Thanks very much for watching. I truly
58:55
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Until next time, keep asking those hard questions,
58:59
Speaker 1: keep searching for the truth most important of all, keep
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Speaker 1: having fun, and I'll see you next time for another episode.
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Speaker 1: Bye for now.