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Penn State Fraternity Coke Scandal with Ron Funches · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl Lacey Mosley, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 2: Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the comedy podcast
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  Speaker 2: all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them. Sometimes we hate them.
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  Speaker 2: One thing probably for sure is that we will laugh
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  Speaker 2: at them, but never at the victims, okay? And congregation,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not New Year, then you already know I'm
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  Speaker 2: very what? Yes, excited, thrilled, elated. We have a return guest,
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  Speaker 2: an icon, back on the show. On the show, Ron
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  Speaker 2: Funches is a hilarious stand-up comedian and actor best known
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  Speaker 2: for his roles in Trolls, Harley Quinn, and Loot. His
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  Speaker 2: new stand-up special, Eat Cookies and Die, is on Guerrilla
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  Speaker 2: Comedy Plus right now.
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  Speaker 1: You can watch Eat Cookies and Die right now after
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  Speaker 1: the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: On Guerrilla Comedy Plus.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, hi, welcome, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me again.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 3: I like coming here because we both have equally strong
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  Speaker 3: but extremely opposite energies.
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  Speaker 1: We do, and it balances out so well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It really does. Oh, my goodness. I remember one time
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  Speaker 2: we did something. Remember when I had to go to
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  Speaker 2: the hospital when we was in that ditch.
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  Speaker 3: In the woods? Yeah, I remember that because I had
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  Speaker 3: been up all day the day previously, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: this is a terrible time. Yeah. But I had fun
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  Speaker 3: and I got to be the crazy James Brown. You did.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know if that ever came out.
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  Speaker 2: It did not.
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  Speaker 3: But it was silly.
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  Speaker 2: It's our little secret.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was silly. We were in the woods. And
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  Speaker 3: it's now how we met. And I can say I
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  Speaker 3: knew her before. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you was already popping, but you buried.
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  Speaker 2: Me in a ditch, which is always, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't give context when I tell people that, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, he buried me in a ditch once.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great guy. She got out. But she knows
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  Speaker 3: not to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: So, Ron, since you've been on the show, I have
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  Speaker 2: to ask, like, it's been a little minute. What's your
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  Speaker 2: relationship with scams now? Are you sending the zeitgeist? It
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  Speaker 2: could be literally anything. Anything happened to anybody you know, you, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It could be anything.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a few things. I mean, I think everybody's been
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  Speaker 3: excited just about recently about that Elizabeth Holmes movie. But
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  Speaker 3: you can see everything. And that's been fun, scam-wise, to
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  Speaker 3: go through that. But then... Also recently, getting my autism
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  Speaker 3: diagnosis has been forced me to kind of go back
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  Speaker 3: and look through things and be like, oh man, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I've been very obtuse about things and been open to
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  Speaker 3: scams because I'm very trusting. And it's in turn made
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  Speaker 3: me look more at my life and been like, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I've let people take advantage of me. So right
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  Speaker 3: now I'm really anti-scam and grifters and scammers of any
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  Speaker 3: nature in a way that's probably a little bit too personal.
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  Speaker 2: So you're saying because you got diagnosed, you were like, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: y'all coming for me, and now this feels like they're
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  Speaker 2: taking advantage of a community.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that and just in the fact that, like, there's
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  Speaker 3: just been a cycle in my life of me being
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  Speaker 3: taken advantage of in some ways where I've just been, like,
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  Speaker 3: because I just... I have often seen the best in
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  Speaker 3: people are just extremely take people for their exact word
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  Speaker 3: and don't do any research. And then later find out
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  Speaker 3: that I'm in a bad situation. I got to get out.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, do you have like an example of this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to get into it because me
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  Speaker 3: and my ex-wife are doing much better now. Okay. You
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  Speaker 3: know what?
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  Speaker 1: Not it was a whole marriage.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they have that on the site for
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  Speaker 2: reasons of like there's like irreconcilable differences, newly diagnosed with autism.
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  Speaker 3: That would be good. I have ADHD.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I have to get divorced.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. I didn't know what I was getting into. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't double check.
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  Speaker 1: I love that this unlocked the whole part of your
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  Speaker 1: life for you.
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  Speaker 2: But like, I feel like when I got an ADHD diagnosis,
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  Speaker 2: like obviously you can get on medication and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: But like with autism, it's just like, you're like, now
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: It's just now I know. And now I'm able to
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  Speaker 3: read some more books and learn about the ways that
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  Speaker 3: I work and in some ways understand why I'm able
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  Speaker 3: to do some things like as far as like my
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  Speaker 3: acting skills and being able to learn a script. If
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  Speaker 3: I'm invested in something, I can extremely hyper-focus on something.
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  Speaker 3: But if I'm not, good luck trying to get me
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  Speaker 3: to learn anything about it. And so to be able
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  Speaker 3: to Learn more about that and to use that and
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  Speaker 3: not be scared of it has been beautiful for me.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. OK, so in that way, that's not
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  Speaker 2: a scam. It's just more so you were like, OK,
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  Speaker 2: I've been a little too trusting with people.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I take things for face value, which I can totally understand.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of family on the spectrum. I
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  Speaker 2: obviously have ADHD, a little closer to ADHD. But I
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  Speaker 2: get the same thing, too, where it's like I just
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  Speaker 2: kind of go along with stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden I realize I've gone
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  Speaker 1: too far.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like part of it is my curiosity, though.
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  Speaker 2: I'll notice something is off and I'll be like, hmm,
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  Speaker 2: let's just see it through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that 100 percent because sometimes my gut
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  Speaker 3: is very accurate. My instincts are accurate, but I will
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  Speaker 3: go like, oh, no, you just, you know, give them
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  Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt. But I think ever since
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  Speaker 3: I ate my divorce and be turning 40, I've just
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  Speaker 3: not given. I'm like. I don't give the benefit of
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  Speaker 3: the doubt. I'm just willing to be wrong. If I'm
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  Speaker 3: wrong about you, I'm wrong. And I guess I won't
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  Speaker 3: even apologize because you won't be in my life. But
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But I'll just be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it does get to a certain point
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  Speaker 1: in life.
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  Speaker 2: And this happens with scams, too, where you get past
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  Speaker 2: the point where you want to see what's behind door
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  Speaker 2: number three.
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  Speaker 3: You're just like, eh.
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  Speaker 2: Like at worst, you know, I missed out on something
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  Speaker 2: that probably wasn't that great. At best, I kept myself
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  Speaker 2: from getting hoodwinked, which at this time in the country
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  Speaker 2: is pretty much like everywhere you turn around.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. Which is great. I mean, that's wild how
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  Speaker 3: things like come from the top down.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so people see the representation of us at the
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  Speaker 3: top and now everyone from. And every industry seems to
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  Speaker 3: be just about get my bag, don't even have to
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  Speaker 3: worry about delivering what I promised to you. And it's
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  Speaker 3: just an era of grifting. And I'm really trying to
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  Speaker 3: fight against that and just teach my sons to be
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  Speaker 3: authentic and to go live by their word and live
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  Speaker 3: by their bond. And those things are important to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, we got on Kim K real hard.
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  Speaker 2: We said nobody wants to work anymore. Now I think
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  Speaker 2: there was suspicion that she wasn't paying the people well enough.
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  Speaker 2: That's been a rumor around that clan for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as just like the general, like people
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  Speaker 2: want to like do as little work as possible, get
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  Speaker 2: their check and go home.
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  Speaker 1: That is definitely, I think we're all just in fatigue.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's the scam of what's happened to us
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  Speaker 2: with our news and our administration is like they're inundating
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  Speaker 2: us with so much mess that you can't even like
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  Speaker 2: hold on to one story before something else bigger or
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  Speaker 2: crazier is like floating past. And then after a while,
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  Speaker 2: you just.
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  Speaker 1: Start being like, yeah, yeah, the president said blow up L.A.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It all becomes white noise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which a lot of this would not have been white
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  Speaker 1: noise before.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. A lot of it was like, we got
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  Speaker 3: to go another way now. Right. You got to go
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  Speaker 3: live in an asylum or something. Usually when someone says
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  Speaker 3: something of that nature. Right.
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  Speaker 2: We would have been like upheaval. Yeah. Let's fight in
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  Speaker 2: the streets.
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  Speaker 3: No. No.
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  Speaker 2: But that is one thing that I've loved collectively about
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  Speaker 2: being black during this time. It's like we were like,
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  Speaker 2: hey guys, we're not going to. We never talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: We just didn't protest. Mm-hmm. And now the protests are
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  Speaker 2: like the No Kings Day. I mean, it's something. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're registering people to vote.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that was kind of like put out
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  Speaker 3: in their whole Project 2025, right? Like if we got
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  Speaker 3: out there, they were going to then portray. They're going
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  Speaker 3: to gun us down in the exact martial law. And
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  Speaker 3: then be like, look at these people out here. And so,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're helping. We're helping by sitting on our couch.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sending motivation. I'm donating. But we got to stay
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  Speaker 2: inside for everybody's safety.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't make the rules. No, it's just clear.
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  Speaker 1: But I love that.
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  Speaker 2: What made you go, like, get a diagnosis?
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  Speaker 3: I went on the traders and then I did a
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  Speaker 3: bad time and then I hated 20 out of 24
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  Speaker 3: people and then realized that that's a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: to hate in one environment. And so maybe some of
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  Speaker 3: it can't be all them. I will say that the
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  Speaker 3: majority of it was them, but some of it had
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  Speaker 3: to be me. And so then when that happened and
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  Speaker 3: then the show came out and I could see some
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  Speaker 3: mannerisms that reminded me of my son who had been
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  Speaker 3: diagnosed and Other people started sending me messages saying that
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  Speaker 3: I some nice and some mean saying that I looked autistic.
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  Speaker 3: And so I was like, let me look into this.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you got trolling from people of the traders.
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  Speaker 3: You know what?
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  Speaker 2: Let me look.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the trolling. I was like, oh, they're
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  Speaker 3: just talking trash. I love talking trash. It wasn't. It
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  Speaker 3: was once they started being nice, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is hurting my feelings.
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  Speaker 2: So, like, genuine concern?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like, no, Ron. Yeah. Ron. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's me, Alan Cummings. We have some recommendations for you. No,
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  Speaker 2: that's why.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I saw your season of Traitors. I love Traitors.
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  Speaker 2: I would want to be on there so bad, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like because the scam thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And also, I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: That wouldn't be good if they know your background. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But your personality would be good for it because you're
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  Speaker 3: so outgoing.
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  Speaker 1: See, but I don't know. I feel like our traitors, like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a little too outgoing, they're, like, suspicious.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like in the beginning, they're just getting rid
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  Speaker 2: of people that they feel like they can, like, isolate.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, well, you're not hanging out with us,
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  Speaker 2: so we think you're a traitor or whatever. Or the
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  Speaker 2: Black people or the drag queens. I feel like we
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  Speaker 2: always go, like, pretty close to the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like it. Yeah, it seems. I mean, by history. Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Pager was the closest one. And then, oh, I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forgive that because that man, he... He gave her up.
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  Speaker 2: She would have won.
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  Speaker 3: I know. And I was like, you cheated, bro. She
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  Speaker 3: did such a great job, too.
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  Speaker 2: You cheated. That was a hater move. Yeah. Like, we
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  Speaker 2: could have got another queen.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Because a traitor, you're supposed to be, like, socializing with people.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like when I saw you on the show,
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  Speaker 2: you were very, like, to yourself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You were like, I don't know. I really, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: but that was me socializing.
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  Speaker 2: You socializing. Like, everybody's, like, hanging out. And it's just
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  Speaker 2: Ron in the corner, like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me. Yeah. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, no, we had a great time.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean? We had a good time. We
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  Speaker 3: had a fun time. I listened.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I was cracking up.
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  Speaker 3: They cut you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I listened.
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  Speaker 3: I had a good time. You were listening.
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  Speaker 2: You were doing what you were supposed to do. You
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  Speaker 2: were trying to observe.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: They played you like that king that's not right that.
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  Speaker 2: Was a little bit of a scam I appreciate that
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you could have lasted much longer especially
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  Speaker 2: because you're good at keeping secrets.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no I'm a good confidant and I'm a great
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  Speaker 3: faithful and good at being I mean I could have
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  Speaker 3: been a good traitor if I knew had to but
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  Speaker 3: um I just think I'm not good at pretending that
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm Friendly. I didn't understand the friendship aspect of
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  Speaker 3: it that you had to be thinking. I thought like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're just going to go and kind of investigate this
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  Speaker 3: mystery together. And I don't have to be friends with everybody,
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  Speaker 3: but they'll just be like, well, he's clearly... I was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's literally like high school and you're supposed to go
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  Speaker 3: and make friends with the most popular.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and have like a little clique and then y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Vote with each other. And that I've never been good at.
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  Speaker 3: So I should have, if I had known that, I
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  Speaker 3: would have been like, oh, okay, I'm definitely not going
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  Speaker 3: to win.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's like socializing at the bar. You like dusted for
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  Speaker 2: fingerprints in the corner.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, see, they should have broke the rules down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit better for you.
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  Speaker 3: That's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: That's not fair. They set my king up, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry about that. That feels like a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a scam. They told you it was a mystery. You
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  Speaker 2: came in looking for clues. Came with your magnifying glass.
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  Speaker 2: Several times in the show, I said, my investigation. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: calm down, Stabler, okay? This is about friendship, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was taking it real serious.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. Oh, my goodness. Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: This sounds like it's not a scam then because you
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  Speaker 2: got some information afterwards and that's helping you live your
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  Speaker 2: life to the fullest. So I'm not mad at this
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 3: No, me either. It turned out very positive. I just
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  Speaker 3: call it like a couple of bad days at work,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you. Realize you just don't fit in
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  Speaker 3: in an environment.
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  Speaker 2: In a cottage or a castle in Scotland.
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  Speaker 3: In a castle that you can't leave.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, do you have to stay in there?
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  Speaker 3: You got to stay in and they don't feed you.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's just like salmon and you're like trying to
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  Speaker 3: get there first so you can get all the food.
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  Speaker 2: No, for real?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not that they starve you in there, too. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like that's just a part of reality TV. That's the
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  Speaker 2: scam that they don't tell you. They try to get
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  Speaker 2: you a little liquored up, and they don't feed you
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  Speaker 2: enough so they can get.
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  Speaker 3: You acting crazy. Yeah, get you on edge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Sleep deprived.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So when you were... I don't know if you can
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  Speaker 2: say this, but when you were filming your sleep scenes,
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  Speaker 2: was it like they came in and filmed you, and
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  Speaker 2: then they would leave, and then you'd actually go to bed?
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  Speaker 3: No, they just set you up in a space to
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  Speaker 3: do it, you know? And then... And then you have
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  Speaker 3: different areas. I think they just have multiple bedrooms they
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  Speaker 3: move you around in.
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  Speaker 2: Was it old in there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's old as hell. Some of it dilapidated.
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  Speaker 2: Not dilapidated.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fun word.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So you were really sleeping like the ancient Scott.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You're there for so long. I mean, it's like
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  Speaker 3: barely sleeping. So it's just, yeah, you get involved in
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: most of that you see at the castle is just
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  Speaker 3: a portion of it, like a fourth of it. Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's huge.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: You had indoor plumbing and stuff, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, they updated it.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I always think about in olden time. Like,
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  Speaker 2: whenever I see a period piece since like the 1800s,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know it's stank in there. Yeah. Like,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: have you ever seen, like, Victorian toilets? Sometimes there would be, like,
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: a chair in the room. They were like, this is
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: where you were really rich. And then, like, they would
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: cover the chair up. And then, like, the toilet would
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: be underneath the chair covering.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: And then you're wearing those wigs all the time and
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: sweating them.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: They were putting powder and stuff because it was all
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: types of bugs. And they was covering up the little
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: siblings on their head with it.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: It's real stinky.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody romanticized anything in the past.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it smell bad, y'all.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I've always been more of a
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: fan of science fiction because of the future.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because in the future, you know everybody breath fresh.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I will hold.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Like when the robots are making out, like, doop-dorp, deep-dorp,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's minty.
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: But back in the day, I see an 1800s kiss,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ugh. Like, I know that tastes terrible. I
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: can't get over it.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I just like that saying, in the future, everybody's breath
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: is minty. I love that.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I want that for us. I hope that's the case.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: I pray. I hope that, too.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to get into the present here, Ron.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, so we're going to get into historic hoodwinks.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: This is my favorite segment of the show. This is
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: where I will regale Ron with a famous con caper
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: group of criminals.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe we love them. Maybe we hate them. We will
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: see along the way.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to keep an open mind.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. I love that you're keeping an
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: open mind.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: Ron, did you go to college?
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: I went for community college for three weeks.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, I love that you tested it out. Yeah. In
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: what city did you do this?
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: In Salem, Oregon.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: In Salem, Oregon?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, was it Spokie? That's all I know about Salem.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: No, that's Salem, Massachusetts. Oh, you're right. There's also Salem, Virginia.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: There's multiple Salem's.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I feel really dumb right now.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Don't feel dumb. Everybody goes into that. People jump to
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: that every time. So don't you dare feel bad.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: You're welcome.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: This is actually helping me a lot. I know where
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: things are on maps.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I know maps. Yes. I've seen them.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: So you were in Salem, Oregon.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Is that where you grew up?
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go back for you. I was born here
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, in Gardena, California. I left when I
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: was four. My mom got divorced, and we moved to Chicago.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Lived there for several years. Ended up in Oregon, Portland, Salem,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: and then moved back to Los Angeles when I was 30.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: So about 13 years ago. Wow.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Did your mom have a job in Salem, Oregon, or
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: she just really loved Oregon?
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: No, my mom was actually in a bad relationship at
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: the time, and she shipped me out of Salem because
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: she couldn't get out of that relationship. But she wanted
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: to get us out of that situation. So she shipped
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: me to live with my dad in Oregon, which... It certainly,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I think, saved my life and gave me a path
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: to where I'm a comedian now. I don't think I
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: would have been if I had stayed where I was. Okay.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's beautiful then. I'm trying to think, like, Oregon, comedy.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess you had no choice but
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to be funny, right?
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: What else was going on?
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: You got to just chit-chat and talk. And there's a
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: lot of, especially in Salem, there's a lot of... Salem
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: is pretty much like an any town USA where it's
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: just kind of a strip mall of a town, you know?
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: And it either breeds that everybody... goes into super conformity
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: or they get kind of weird you know and there's
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: a group of weird people out there that are just
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: trying to we're doing art and trying to make shows
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: and I was running a coffee house show out there
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: and just trying to make things nicer and that's one
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: of the things I love about those type of small
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: towns is that people don't ever that's why I still
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: when I go do stand-up I'll go to everywhere I
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: like to go Riley Tulsa to everywhere because people appreciate
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: it when you go to their style you know Right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they're used to probably having to drive out
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the way and all of that. But you're like, no,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I'm pulling up to Salem.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm pulling up. OK. I'm big into Larry June.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Larry June will always say I'm going into this town.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: They got money there.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I need to start doing that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: McKeesport, Pennsylvania. I'm coming.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: They got money there.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: So speaking of Pennsylvania, today we're going to be talking
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: about the Penn State frat bros who were running a sophisticated.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Cocaine ring in 2024.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: If you've ever been to State College in Pennsylvania, this
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: won't be surprising to you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: So here we have- Not a guy named Agostino.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Agostino.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: He didn't do it. Abatellio.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And he was a student until 2024, and he was
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: in Sigma Chi. Okay, I know that frat. And then
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Thomas Robinson, he was also a student until 2024, and
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: he was in Delta Epsilon. I also know that fraternity.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So these are two different fraternities. So they bridged across
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the beef. Okay.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And they joined hands to be cocaine salesmen.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: They said there's all a brotherhood of cocaine.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Yes. And much like in Salem, Oregon, where you brought
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: together people at the coffee shop for stimulants, they brought
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: people together for an illegal stimulant.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I can see that. I mean, I don't, were they
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: already proven guilty? Because I want to say they look
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: very guilty, but I don't want to say that and
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: get in trouble.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I know. So, you know, this happened in 2024. So,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you know, they got some charges for sure. So Penn
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: State is not an Ivy League school, but sometimes people
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: think it is because they confuse it with the University
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania, which is Penn, right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: But Penn State is its own special place, which has
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: had a lot going on. I'm like, I need Penn
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: State to stay out of trouble.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: They seem to make a lot of news.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: The Nittany Lions, I believe.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, they are in a field. I went to the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: University of Pittsburgh, so I'm very familiar with Penn State.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: We obviously had a lot of their prospective students coming. Yes,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: we were.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: We were.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, their football program.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So you're biased in this story.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Am I biased? No.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, but it was so... Absolutely. Absolutely. This is tainted.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: This is not journalism today. No, no, no, no, no.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But, like, it's a good school.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: And it's also known, renowned to be a party school.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: When I think of, like, a cocaine salesman at a college,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, both of these spaces do seem like... Oh, 100%. Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Especially a guy named Agostino. Absolutely.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Now, why you got to stereotype Agostino like that?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Not stereotype. Just look at him. He look like a
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: guy who sells pharmaceuticals.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he look like he always got a black backpack
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is obviously really just shows racism in society.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: When you think of a drug dealer, people want to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: go to this guy like back in the day, Eazy-E,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: someone like that, or just any general rapper. But that's
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: what a drug dealer look like right there.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: See, okay, this is going to make me messed up, though,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: because if I had to choose between the two, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: feel like Thomas might run a testing kit on his.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Who do you think is
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the boss? Who do you think is the boss? Thomas
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: might be getting prescriptions when he steal his dad's doctor pad.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, 100%. Oh, Thomas from Dr. Robinson. Yeah, from Dr. Robinson. Absolutely.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like he might be doing a little squiggle
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: for Dr.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Robinson.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And so we getting it. it straight from the FD
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and the A. You know what I mean? Agostino give
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: me like, he got.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: A plug in Tijuana.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Agostino. I can say this. I'm also an ethnicity.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: That's how it works? Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're in ethnicity, you can just say, listen,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm black. I don't believe in POC, but sometimes we
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: can be ethnicity together. We both ethnicity. You know what
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You see it. Yeah. Oh, brother from another mother.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: So Penn State has been ranked number one. The Penn State,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the babies, they done been ranked number one
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: in partying. OK, they're known to throw down and have
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: a Wang Jang doodle. The Princeton Review named them number
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: one party school in America in 2009. Not the Princeton Review.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Not the Princeton Review. How dare you?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Like, y'all supposed to be telling us what programs to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: go to. They're like, oh, they got a great business school.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Or like, not like, oh, you trying to turn up
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: in the woods? Or not in the woods, but in
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the hayfields?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like Arizona State was always killing it. Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like they were always number one in that.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: How do you dethrone Arizona State?
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: That seems difficult.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like they work very hard at partying.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And they got better weather. Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: And it's like, what is it, just rocks out there?
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That's the only danger is they don't really got no grass.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: So you tripping fall at Arizona State, you know you're going.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: To be rocks and dirt. Oh, there's a lot of
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: danger in Arizona State. It's a lot of dangerous things.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Armadillo.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Armadillo. The people. The people. The people.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Number one danger.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my niece and my nephew are out there. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: put my niece in Taekwondo so that she could start
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: beating up racist toddlers.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, you got to start them young.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: You don't take no vets.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Push them down the slide. Take them off the monkey bars.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Whatever we got to do. Yeah, I feel like Arizona State,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: that was like their leading thing. I think they should
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: be upset that Princeton Review did them like this because
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's what they led with.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: They were like, come here for an education you won't remember.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: A time you'll never forget and you will never remember.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: For an education you remember and a party you won't forget.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, we got a motto.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Arizona State, I just helped you out. That's it
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: right there. That way you're putting academics first.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll give you 70-30. Okay.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can go into a split on this. Arizona,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: pay us for the marketing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: You started it, and then I helped, and then you
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: finished it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, we got it. That was a team. So This
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: American Life did a story on it. Ira Glass went
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to a tailgate and learned about the fracket. So frack it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: That's what Penn State girls called a cheap, ugly jacket
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that you can wear to a frat and get.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Puked on or lose it completely and not care.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: So this is a frack it. So basically the parties
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: are so lit at the Nittany Lions that you don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: want to wear a jacket that you care about because
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it's Inevitably, somebody will projectile.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You're either going to vomit or you're going to get
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: vomited upon.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you see here the material that's easy for
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: wiping off. It's got kind of like a slick water resistant.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, you really got to be like,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: we just got a problem, you know? Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you got to dress for the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: splash zone.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: At a party.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: When you just, you was just like, well, I'm going
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: to puke or get puked on or there's going to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: be some other liquids coming at me. You got to
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: change your ways. That's why they wrote that song about
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: looking at the man in the mirror.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: They need to be looking at the man in the mirror?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: They got to.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like when they look in the mirror, it's moving.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: The man is, they can't quite keep a hold of
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: where the man, it's two men in the mirror.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Like one of them is good.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: The other one is lit.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: The demon.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like having to prepare for something like that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: should definitely be a warning. I mean, when we were
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: in college, we definitely, we would call it a liquor blanket.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That's where you, like, took a couple shots because it
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: was freezing cold in the winter. And then you wear your,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you know, hoochie outfit and you go to some frat
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: party called, like, CEOs and Corporate Hoes. You know, this
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: was before we knew better.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: College sounds terrible.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It was great. It has its moments. But I never
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: went to a party where you had to get ready
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for the splash zone, like Shamu was about to pop
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: out and hurl at you. So that's a new one
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: for me. So the school mascot, the Nittany Lion, was
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: just a mountain. What? Nittany Lion.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was just going to drive past that one, okay,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: because I had a little slug. I had a little club,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: and I was trying to do a drive-by. I'm like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you know what I said. The Nittany Lion, which is
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: just a mountain lion with a different name.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: And they don't remember where that name came from. Of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: course they don't. They was probably partying.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: When they named it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And the lion looks a little lit, too.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Like, look at the lion's mouth.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Nittany Lion.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Nittany Lion looks like it's also gone off
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a few Four Locos before the FDA got involved.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd think that a place would have a better
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: budget for a mascot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: They say everybody lit anyway.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Can't nobody see.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Can't even see. It's blurry.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: They said, just put the head on, bro. Ain't nobody
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: going to notice.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Looks like a fuggle.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: So this year, Penn State is down to number nine
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: on the party school rankings behind current champion Tulane.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Got to get those numbers back up, Nittany Lion.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Now they started doing education more.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: That's a shame. They started learning over there?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: That's not what they paying for.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I brought my fracking and it came home clean.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It's great. Terrible time. Nobody puked on me.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: That's a recession indicator.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: That's true. It is.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: When the college kids are like, I got to get
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: my education, bro. Like, I don't got money to waste here. Drinking, partying. No, no, no, no, no.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: It's not safe once I leave.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: When we was a college, we had that Asher man.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: That party last night was awfully crazy. I wish we
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: taped it. Something like that. Actually, I was in high
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: school when that came out. It was like a song.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I love college and I love drinking and I love women.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: You don't remember that one?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I hear this song, yes. I think I've heard this before.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It was very creative. Wow.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I was in high school when it came out. There's
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of white people in that car.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, white people. But that's like, you know, like. They're
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: losing their culture. They're losing recipes, non-seasoned recipes.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I know. I went to the State Fair in Riley.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: They're still doing it. I saw Demolition Derby. Oh, wow.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I saw a handkerchief that was hand-knitted for Christmas that said,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I'm on my wife's naughty list. And I was like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: that's white culture. Yes. They love being like that. White
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: culture loves being like, oh, I hate my wife. Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They really do. They get in groups and they be like, ah,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: so are wives, right? We hate them, right? We want
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: to hit them with our cars, right, buddies?
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they really do. It's really funny.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So every time I see my wife, I'm like.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Al Bundy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Right, no, literally.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. They got to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: get rid of that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I just feel like culturally there's just been too many
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: family annihilators for them to keep going with.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: That hate my wife joke.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like if you're an upstanding white man
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: who loves their wife, if you hear an I hate
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: my wife joke, it makes come, you got to be like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: hey man, I don't want to have to call Homeland
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Security on your buddy. Because these days, we can't take
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: those jokes because I don't want to get divorced.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: So we got to take these as credible threats.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: These are the times we live in. You hear about
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that guy who was on the airplane who, like, they
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: rerouted the airplane because a flight attendant saw his text
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to a co-worker who was on the plane. And his
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: text to the co-worker was like, I'm going to hijack
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: this plane and crash only your row. But the lady
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: only saw, I guess the flight attendant saw, I'm going
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to hijack the plane. So she told the pilots they
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: quietly had the plane turn around, land, and arrested the guy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And he's like in his twenties. He's clearly joking. Cause
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: he said like, I'm gonna crash your role only. But like, no,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: they don't play no more. Ain't nobody playing about these things.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: No, it's just not the time. It's not. That's what
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you see a lot in, in media and art. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: it's what I really been enjoying. Um, When people have
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: been standing up, like with the things where like Michelle
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Obama or people making jokes about her or just Black
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: women in general that people go, no, no, no, we're
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: not doing that right now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, April Fool's don't even hit no more. Nobody
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: does jokes. We're like, it's just we can't joke around
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: right now, guys. It's too serious.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: My son is great at April Fool's because of the autism.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: He's actually tremendous. It's one of my favorite days of
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: the year.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: So he's pranking you all day?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's great. But because he he loves rules. That's
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: one of his things with his autism is he likes
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: following rules. And so pranks are kind of like breaking rules.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: So he will do a prank, but then he will
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: leave a sticky note that labels each prank. So I
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: will wake up and there was a plastic spider. And
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: then next to the plastic spider will be a sticky
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: note that says plastic spider. And then this last year,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: now that he's 23 and getting older, my favorite sticky
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: note just said toothpaste come home.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Toothpaste cum?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. It was supposed to be cum, but it was
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: just toothpaste.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I thought you were saying put something in the toothpaste.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. All right. I was like, that would have been-
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: That would have been cum toothpaste.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And see, this is why grammar matters.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: This is why people don't need commas.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Okay? Okay?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: This is why we don't need AI, because I was
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: scared for a second.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was for a minute, too.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So, some previous scandals at Penn State.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: In the fall of 2011, the school was rocked by
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: sexual abuse case involving former football defense coordinator Jerry Sandusky.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Sandusky. Yes.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And we definitely, definitely do not need to get into
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: those crimes now because they are very dark or how
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the university officials cover up, which is also dark. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: they did take a huge punishment for that. Their athletic
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: team did, which they absolutely should have because what the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: fuck going on?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: How come? And I know not make fun or light,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: but like when some people who do that, they have
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: names that sound like they do it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Sandusky sounded like he doing everything they said he did.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right? It really do.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And was covering up and just being weird as fuck.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I think for a while after, I'd be like, ooh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: that Sandusky motherfucker. Anytime they were like, ooh, shifty.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a good last name to begin with. I
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: feel like the whole lineage should change their last name.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Y'all just go by Dusk now. You know? yeah y'all
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: be the dusks okay i just get rid of it
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: just throw the whole name out so we're gonna keep
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: things light though and talk about cocaine okay so the
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: new coke ring 24 year old penn state student agostino
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: cocaine Have I ever done cocaine?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: My mom might watch this podcast.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Therefore, absolutely not.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. I wasn't sure of the blackness. Never even seen it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: But you also have a vibe that maybe.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I heard it has a crazy odor that makes you
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: real energetic.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's what made me feel like maybe you had
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: tried it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I just heard about the crazy odor.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: People really love the smell of it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Apparently it makes them real energetic. So this is
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: our 24-year-old. Now he looks way more like a drug dealer.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: He really does. Oh, that's him now. He's hardened.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So he was recently arrested for being the ringleader of
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a drug-dealing enterprise. He's an accounting major. Okay, so he's
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: applied research. You know what I mean?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: He was probably keeping the books nice and good.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: The play and the man.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: So including him and 13 former students have been charged. See,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: the ring is too big. Why you got 13 people
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: in their early 20s a part of anything? That's too
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: many people. You thought this was going to go get out?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: 13 people whose frontal lobes have not developed.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: All I'm learning about this more and more is that
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: you probably got something going on. You probably a criminal
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: yourself because you.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Me?
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, no, no. Because you really immediately you sit
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: through it and you immediately you find the where it's
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: like would fall apart, which tells me that like you
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: if someone wanted to build a criminal empire.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I don't go here. I'm just a part of this community.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'm trying to blow up your spot. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry. I got notes.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I got notes. I'm not trying to get taken out.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I got notes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: So, Agostino apparently made processing and packaging cocaine part of
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the hazing ritual for on-campus fraternities. Now, given the hazing
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: rituals we've been seeing throughout the years, you know, which
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: are tend to be, you know, a little sexual and
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: homoerotic and... And demeaning.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And, you know, eat weird stuff or like, you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: be shamed for the rest of your life.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like bag.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Up this cocaine in your underwear and let's have a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: sweatshop is.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: It's like an internship. Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: You can get an applied skill.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: You can throw that on your resume, I would think.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Now you've worked on an assembly line. Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting some intro.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: To business here.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: You learned you're trustworthy. Yeah. Yes.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: See, this is building trust.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Unless you were the one of the people who snitched,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: then maybe not. Exactly.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: This is real trust, though. We all did like a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: class A felony together.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Like that's real trust versus like we all like touched
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: each other's like butts.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: That is wild to think that you could trust 12
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: other people.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: It's too many people to trust.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So other schools use classic hazing rituals like we talk about,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: like chugging the beers or sneaking a horse into the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: dean's office or an old fashioned homoerotic paddling. But at
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Penn State, frat bros made prospective members cut and package
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: cocaine for them. So they say, you work for us.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, how would you feel if you were joining
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: a fraternity and they were like, all right. You go
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: down to the basement and they just got bricks down there, like,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: and scales.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I would be terrified. A, I'm like, how did I
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: get in a fraternity? This is really outside of my nature.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It's traitors all over again.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And then I was like, oh, I thought
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the most scary part was going to be having to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: learn how to do my steps. But now... I got
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: to package up a brick? No.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: See, I feel like this is where your autism will
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: come in handy because you'll probably be the most chill
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: person there. Like, other people will be freaking out like, what, bro? Like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: everybody else has to be convinced you're already putting on
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: gloves in the corner like.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: All right. This is what we're doing.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, and how much are we putting in these bags?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Somebody hand me a scoop.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: That is wild. I mean, that's smart business to figure out, like, oh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: you don't have to pay these people because it's part
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: of the hazing. Right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So now you're cutting out a cost.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Cutting out labor.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. If you don't consider the legalities of it, I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: pretty smart plan.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty smart plan. So frat brothers at the
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Delta Upsilon house were selling cocaine to each other that
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: they got from Agostino, who was a member of Sigma Chi.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Agostino was getting the coke from a hookup via his
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: frat brother, Lars Zipvat, also an accounting major.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Lars.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Wow. Lars is in there.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So you kind of mapped this out well, because you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: said Augustino was the plug, but then now we know
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: that his main supplier was Lars Zipdat.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, from a different place, probably.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Now, Lars seems like he's keeping his hands clean, like
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: he don't ever touch dope. He got a bow tie on, sunglasses,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: because he's probably definitely on his own supply.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: He's like Lydia from Breaking Bad. Yes, yes.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's got a plan.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he just wears a blue dress and he don't
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: want to see anything.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: So when Lars' hookup ran dry, Agostino found another one
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: in his hometown of Long Island and started to buy
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: a lot more and distribute it. So he went from Lars,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: it was probably a smaller time operation. Lars probably had
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a homeboy or maybe his older brother or something. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: then allegedly, I don't know the exact setup here, but
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: they ran out of cocaine and he was like, I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: need a new plug because I got a business.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: He's upgrading.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: So now he's getting it from somebody else in Long Island.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Which I can't imagine my cocaine from Long Island would
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: be like, Are they known for that?
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I think you definitely. Have you been there?
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like their community would participate in
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: cocaine activities. I just don't know if they would be
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: making the best product.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say high quality product.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: No.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: But do they have it? Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Easily.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Surely the firemen, everybody.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Did a club there. They paid me in cash. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I know for sure. No, for sure.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: No, I don't doubt that at all. Actually, I really
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: don't doubt that because I've worked on Long Island, like
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: at the Hamptons, and there were definitely some cocaine salesmen
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: out there, for sure. I think in the Hamptons would
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: be better, but like Long Island, Long Island, who knows
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: what you're getting over there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Probably got some cigarette butts in it or something. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: wouldn't trust it. So Delta Upsilon member Thomas Robinson, seen
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: here in a blazer drinking a White Claw.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Wow, they couldn't look, man, I couldn't cast this better. Right?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Like all of these people look like they're involved in
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: selling cocaine at Penn State.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Like y'all do the movie when y'all get out of jail.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: We don't need to get nobody else. So Thomas ran
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the downstream logistics and distribution for the operation, selling the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: coke to students via Snapchat. Because, you know, it disappears.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Unless the government gets involved.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Or people just take a screenshot.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why you wouldn't use Signal in this
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: day and age. I mean, that's where Pete Hex says
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: does all our military stuff.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Super safe. Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, if a lady tells me she has Signal,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I just don't trust her. Fair.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, do I have it?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: See, that's a part of your new autism stuff, okay?
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Because before that, I feel like you would have trusted
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: me if I had signaled. You would have had a
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: bad eye.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm like, no, what you signaling? What you signaling
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and deleting?
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to throw up a little smoke signal, okay? Listen,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it could be for activism, okay? Listen, the revolution can't
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: be televised, okay? Sometimes you got to get some activism
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: on there. You don't know what I'm getting active with.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So, finance major Michael Brogno Jr.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Packaged and delivered the Coke as a frat pledge.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, he seemed real dedicated to being a pledge. You know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: he was, you just know he was going to be
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: like a circuit court, like a judge, you know.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: It's just wild. He of all people still, like he
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: has his baby fat still. He still looks like a kid.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can just see like judge and this
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: all coming back to him and them holding it against him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, him getting people off for stuff
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: that they definitely should go to jail for.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I hope so. I hope he turns his life.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is quite the charge. So if he
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: was looking to get anything like that, but he's a
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: finance major, so this is right up his alley.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I tell you, his prep baseball days are over.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, prep seems, is that good?
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: No, no, that's no.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Was he a good baseball player? I don't think he
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: had a career in that. So 20-year-old Seth Beardsley, another
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Delta Epsilon member, Epsilon, excuse me, packaged the Coke and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: used a digital scale to measure it out. And he
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: probably did a good job because he is like the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: supply chain information systems major. So I love that everybody's
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: major is really aligning up with how they can work
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: in the cocaine business.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they really are just using their applications. They're applying
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: their schoolwork into everyday life. lab function and.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Supply chain information is hard i had to take like
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: um operations management and like i had to take a
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: class where you basically learn how like fedex and the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: ups and all these places get all their packages distributed
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: across the country and like get them there in a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: certain amount of time there's like all these very complicated
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: math problems so distribution is like a hard you know
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: subject matter so he was really killing it and he
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: still had time to turn up.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah good jawline like he was working out yeah getting
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: his hair done If anything.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: These people were starting a small business. You know, it
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: seems like everybody is using their education. I don't know
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: if this is like a bad advertisement for Penn State,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: because it's really like you can get your education and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: apply it immediately.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you not even have to graduate. And you're making
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: connections that will last you a lifetime. Through thick and thin.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Through thick and thin.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Whether you're in jail together or not.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Right. Through charges, through indictments.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And also we have to think about the fact that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: everybody wants you to leave college with experience these days.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: And they are getting the experience while they are in school.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: What's the difference between them and Microsoft, really?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: That was a startup. You know what I mean? All
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: these tech entrepreneurs start stuff in their garage. All these
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: boys needed was to put down the white claw and
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: pick up a black turtleneck.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Visionary.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: That's quick. I love that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Visionary.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Are there going to be more people or was that them?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have other people, but these are the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: main characters.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just really happy there hasn't been a black person yet.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Now, you know there wasn't going to be no black
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: person in this.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Sometimes there's one. There's one that looks like.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: And he looks like he ain't never been around black
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: people in his life.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: He got frosted tips.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Looks like Keegan-Michael Key in it. I didn't say is
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Keegan-Michael Key, but looks like.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: He definitely got some frosted tips when he tried to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: perm his hair once.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: He wore a lot of Hollister back in the day.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. He could be in here.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: His name's Trevor.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yes. Or Jalen.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So the whole operation got started in 2023. Damn, y'all
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: got caught after one year? A year is a good
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: amount of time for a college campus, but I'm disappointed
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in you. So by the end of that year, pledges
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to Sigma Chi and Delta Epsilon were packing half a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: gram bags of coke as a part of their hazing.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Thomas tried to identify trustworthy pledges and used a so-called
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: steady hand test to determine if they could cut cocaine.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Now, considering that they used to have jackets to wear
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: to frats so that if they got thrown up on,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure people are drinking enough that maybe they
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: might start getting that little alcohol shake. So maybe.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: They had to keep everybody out. It's also weird because
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: it used to be like, oh, we don't want you
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: if you're too ugly or pimply or fat. And now
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: they're like, we got to make sure you can cut
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the coke.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. These are more like Noriega-esque rules. We just
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: got to make sure you can cut the brick. Okay,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: that's all.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Do you like Jeezy? Okay, we can fuck with this.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: We can fuck with this. So he'd have three pledges
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: stand in a line and hold out their hands.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: If their hands were steady, they were allowed to.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Continue to help him, although they did not know the
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: tasks that they were being asked to do. So it's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: probably one of the least weird things that the pledges
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: were asked to do was just like hold out their hands. Yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Wow. Imagine just being the shaky hand person and that's
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: what kept you out of jail.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Damn, you're right. Like maybe that day you took like
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: your ADHD medication on an empty stomach and he was.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Like, A little jittery.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe your iron was low. Yeah.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: And that saved you from prison.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Also, if I'm in this.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Look at God. Right.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Look at my iron, my low iron helping me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a blessing.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Rejection is my protection.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Amen. Also, if I'm pledging this fraternity and I'm, you know,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: cooking up the yayo, I'm definitely getting in.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can kick anybody off of this line.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Right. Like everyone has to get in. Yeah. I feel
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: like that. Then it's like Epstein. Yeah. Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: See, I feel like day one of chopping up the coke,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: maybe I would be there for day one. And then
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: after day one, I would just stop showing up. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, but I'm in the fraternity, right? Because
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I know about the chopping up the coke.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really smart.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Like, what you going to do?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's probably how they, I mean, you'll tell
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: me how they went down.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: So then he would have the pledges signed a non-disclosure form.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and took them to the fraternity's boiler room where a
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: folding table was set up with goggles, glass dishes, and
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the dime bags. So NDAs don't cover crime, but I guess.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: If you're young in college, maybe an NDA will seem like.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who's going to look into it?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I signed a non-disclosure for this crime I was doing.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Makes sense to me. So Thomas put a brick of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: cocaine on the folding table. One of the pledges shredded
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the coke while Thomas added creatine to the mix. Okay, creatine.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I've heard, like, baby formula.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby formula or a laxative people add or something
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: like that to cut it. So, creatine.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So, I guess they're getting.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: They're getting their gains. Yeah. Okay.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I tried to drink creatine once before a workout, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I had, like... I got hives. That stuff is really strong.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: It can be strong, and it can... Yeah, I used
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: to take it, too, but then it was... I don't...
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: It was... I was having some issue with it. I
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: don't recall, but I stopped.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It just felt like crack. And I was like, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: don't think I need workout crack.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: No.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: So honestly, they could have just gave them the creatine.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: But you know what?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: They were being ethical. They were sprinkling a little of
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: the cocaine in as well. So the drug business was
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: passed down through the frat, handed off by brothers who
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: were graduating or studying abroad.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: They should have just mixed it. Cocaine, a little Adderall,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: some creatine.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Now who's pitching a crime?
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Protein powder.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Now who's got crime ideas?
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I just feel like it's a one-stop shop now. Now
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: they're like, boom, one powder... Do everything.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this should be a legacy business, though.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like if y'all had people who were keeping
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: their mouth shut who were doing this, why keep bringing
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: new people in? That just feels like a risk.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: It's asking for trouble.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: But people are graduating, I guess.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: You know, they were like, look, I have an internship
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: at J.P.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Morgan Chase. I gotta get out of here. I can't
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: sell coke anymore, okay?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Once I move the tassel over, I'm no longer a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: dope boy, okay? Now I'm a Wall Street dope boy, okay?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: So frat culture already relies on a code of silence,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: so pledges knew not to tell outsiders about the operation.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: The Pennsylvania attorney general called them a coordinated and highly
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: profitable drug trafficking crew. Hmm, very curious as the attorney
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: general is saying highly profitable. It's given they started making
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: too much money.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, also, why are they giving compliments?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Because they're all white.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: They were like, look at these young promising men, okay?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: This is highly lucrative, some would say. A startup. Yeah. Yes.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: And it's the same as the Erykah Badu song, Other
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Side of the Game.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly. But for them, it's not dope boys, okay? These
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: are like cocaine pharmacists, if you will.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Scams!
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So the ringleaders got caught because they were using Snapchat
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and Venmo accounts linked to their real names.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta work your cash.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I just feel like drugs is one of those places
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: where cash is still king. I mean, you just really
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be zelling for drugs. Like it's one thing.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: No, never. Yeah. Never. Never.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying like, like as a, A consumer, perhaps,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: zelling is okay for you one time. But if you
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: are the supplier, you're just getting constant new zells. That's
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: going to look suspicious.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's for sure.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially when they have, like, little, when people are
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: putting emojis.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Right, it's like several snowflakes.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. leaves.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: It's just the emoji with the eyes wide open? Like, yeah, bro.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: They're like, hey man, next time can you not put
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: emojis on it? Because that's you making it hot.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a candy cane. Right.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Like, this guy sells a lot of candy. We should
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: probably look into this.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just, come on, Snapchat and Venmo, y'all were
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: doing so well. I just feel like, come on, especially
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like cocaine, like maybe to your weed sales, but for,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you know, a restricted drug like that, like cash, guys,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: just go to the ATM. So in 2024, a confidential
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: informant told police that a man using the nickname T-Rob
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: had been selling cocaine from the Delta Upsilon fraternity house
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: and accepting Venmo payments under his username Tom Robinson.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: That sounds right. Also, just a terrible nickname. That's when
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: you know you've got no personality, when your nickname is just.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: your regular name shortened up.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It's giving Malibu's most warning.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, truly. Like, T-Rob! Yeah, that's true. It's absolutely Malibu's
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: most warning.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, yo, T-Rob.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, man, hit up T-Rob. We need some of that
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: blow for tonight.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Hit up T-Rob.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Like, at this point, just go by Tom Robinson, the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: cocaine salesman, because.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Don't call me that. I'm T-Rob. T-Rob.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Y'all be tripping. Like, what is happening?
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Let me cook.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: When police raided Thomas Robinson's room at the frat house,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: he thought he was being pranked, so he didn't follow
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: their orders. They tasered him.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Nice. I hope they got video of that. Those are
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: some of my favorite videos.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I love his caucasity.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: He was like, I am a white boy in college
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: named T-Rob, but you're not raiding my home. And then
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: they tased him. Yeah. Damn, they tased T-Rob.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I love watching people get, not everybody, you know, people
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: sometimes they're quick to tase, but if you're coming entitled
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: and like, oh, what are you going to tell me?
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: And then they end up tased. Oh, I love those videos.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like T-Rob got tased that Tom Robinson
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have got tased. He should have straightened right.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Up and went into Tom Robinson. Well, they tased T-Rob
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: and then Thomas Robinson came out.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Jumped out and was like, wait, hold on, fellas.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: My name is Thomas Robinson. I'm cooperating.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: You've got the wrong guy. So cops found a 220-gram
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: bag of marijuana, pill bottles, drug paraphernalia, and a handgun
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and ammo in the safe. 220-gram bag of marijuana. That's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of grams. Yes.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of grams.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Also, T-Rob, you don't have a place that you can
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: store this stuff. You had it in your dorm on campus,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: and you just thought that was the place to hide
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: your drugs?
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: No, again, he needed you. He needed a partner.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I just, T-Rob, what are you doing? And you got
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a handgun?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: T-Rob, who you shooting?
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: The RA.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Break yourself. Let's make this quick. I got a final
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: at 3.30.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Like, what is happening?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: So Thomas ratted on Agostino as his supplier.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Come on, T-Rob.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Why are you ratting people out? I knew Agostino was
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: a supplier.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: And the whole coke ring was exposed.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: See, y'all not real thugs because snitches supposed to get stitches.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: What do you mean you threw Agostino under the bus immediately?
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, you know T-Rob gonna turn.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, T-Rob didn't stand a chance.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: So Agostino was charged with felony counts of illegal drug
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: possession with intent to deliver and conspiracy. He failed to
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: show up for his August arraignment, but turned himself in
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the next day. If you're not going to show up,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: why not just show up to arraignment? Was you going
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: to go on the run, Agostino?
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: He was thinking about it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: He was trying to do the race like Tay-K. That
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: was not going to happen. Shortly after Thomas was released
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: from jail, his dad, Paul, helped him retrieve a safe
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: full of drugs and cash that one of his fraternity
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: brothers buried in the woods near Penn State. No, Paul.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Now, Paul, you're supposed to be smarter than T-Rob.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why would you go, Paul?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: P-Rob, really? P-Rob, what? P-Rob, you're not supposed to go
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: get the drugs immediately. They watching you, P-Rob.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: They got eyes on you, P-Rom.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: So Penn State said the Delta Upsilon frat house is
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: facing interim suspension. Sigma Chi operates outside the school's oversight,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: so nothing has changed for them.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, nice.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Of course Sigma Chi operates outside of the school's oversight because.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't know you could just do that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be able to do that.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: It seems like you shouldn't.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: No, because frats notoriously.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Even within school oversight... If there's students in the school
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: in the frat, you feel like they should have some
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: type of oversight.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like always.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Because notoriously, they've not made good decisions, especially at this university.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like if your school is ranked anywhere in
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the Princeton Review for partying, definitely every party house should
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: be a part of the school's oversight. So Sigma Chi
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: was like, good. They was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: was dope boys, but technically we off-campus dope boys.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't even go here. We don't even know
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: you like that.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I love that that worked out for them. I don't,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: but it is hilarious to me. Paul, why would you
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: get involved in this? T-Rob's dad... What was the goal
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: here of getting the drugs out of the woods?
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: That's just when you love your kid too much and
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you're willing to go do anything. And he was probably
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: talking to him, hey, go pick this up. Oh, unless
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: P-Rob was involved from the get-go.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, P-Rob... He was getting a nice cut of money.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So maybe P-Rob was going to Long Island and getting.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: The drops or something. He could have been part of it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Pooh Shiesty's dad. Oh, goodness.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Talk about bad father-son relationships. If you don't know who
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Pooh Shiesty is, he's a very dumb rapper who was
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: recently paroled. And then he tried to get out of
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: his music contract with Gucci Mane by going to Gucci
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Mane's studio while, like, on live or, like, on Instagram
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and holding him up at gunpoint to get him to
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: sign a contract releasing him from his deal because that's
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: totally going to hold up in court.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: And then stealing his jewelry.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And then getting on Instagram and bragging with this man's
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: jewelry while.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Well, no, he didn't do that. He didn't do the bragging.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, the friends did, right? But he was there.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, he was there.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: And his dad went with him out of state, which
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: was already a violation of his parole before we even
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: get into the whole, like, gun and, you know.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real interesting. Because I was a fan of his.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, man, I do love it
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: when people are authentic. He was saying, I'm doing this.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I'm Shiesty. I'm the snake. And you got to look
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: out for me. And he was telling the truth.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he did the robbery. Yes.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I prefer the performative rappers who just, like, I want
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to feel good about being, like, you know, rah, rah, rah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: And I know we're all just like, rah, rah, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: nobody's actually, like, shooting people.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's your one, rah, rah, rah. Rah, rah, rah, rah. Okay.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: I like doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. Okay, doo-doo-doo is good, too.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of good ones.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: That's your, okay. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I love that, but I want it to be fake.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I want it to be cosplay so that we can
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: all just pretend we're gangsters. I don't want you actually
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: out here shooting people. But Pusha, I see. Yeah, you're right.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: He lives by his words.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: He lived it.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, your dad was like, yeah, good idea, son.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: You literally just got on parole.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Let's violate all of it.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You just got out. So much so that you
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: just put out a song called First Day Out. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: then by the time that song was hitting the charts,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: you were back in. Wild. Wild.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're going to let him
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: out again because they.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Let him out a little early.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep him in there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: They might keep him because the first thing was pretty wild.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: And you got a second chance.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand people who are just like not
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: scared to go to jail. No.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: It's very dirty in there.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Especially at that age. You still have so much of
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: a life to live. And he's actually pretty talented and
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: just bad for hip hop, which was already struggling to
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: then lose such a talented artist. Yeah. I don't get
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: it sometimes. Some people just don't know how to, you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: how to win. You know?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: That's what's confusing to me. And I'm going to say,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that for Paul as well.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Because, like, if you Tom's dad, P-Rob, why not just
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: wait until all the charges are dropped or, you know,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: whatever sentencing happens?
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: And you know where the safe is in the woods.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure the police don't. Why are you trying to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: go get it immediately during an ongoing investigation?
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: He was worried that the police were going to get
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: to it first.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: How would they know?
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know. We get paranoid. Maybe we need money
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: for the trial and everything like that. I see the
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: stress of it, but I just would have never gone myself. Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I would have been like.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: You have to imagine that they're following you.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You got to send somebody. Yes. Yeah.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I also do want to know how they, like, who snitched.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Because that is not apparently like.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but if you go through those lists
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: of faces, there weren't very many trustworthy ones. There weren't many.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Can we go through the faces real quick? Because let's
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: see who looks like the rat.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: We're just going to guess.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: No.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: No problem.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: So we're just going to guess here as we wind
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: down the episode because this is all like their charges
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: are pending.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: He wasn't.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we know he wasn't the rat. Augustino wasn't
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: the rat because he got ratted on. Now, with glasses
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: that thick, you should have saw this coming.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: The house definitely didn't snitch. Oh, no, because he was
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: one of the big suppliers, so definitely not.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but remember, his supply ran out, and so he
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: dried up. But he wouldn't rat because he got caught.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: And he wasn't a plug no more. Thomas Robinson.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Well, we know that he ratted.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Well, he ratted on Agostino. But who ratted on him?
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Do we think Michael?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at that face.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that face.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: That face says I'm not doing a day in prison.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it is? It's like his lips
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: are so thin.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like he got a person to keep them together.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like he'd be.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Talking a lot. His lips look like a tight vagina.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: So he not going to last long in jail.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, wow.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I was not.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Not where I was going at all, but okay.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Do we think Seth?
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like we found our guy. Yeah, yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Seth, we're not going to... Allegedly, we don't know who ratted... Yeah,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: he's probably at winning parties in the splash zone. We
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: were on the biggest cocaine kegabri in Penn State. Yeah,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: he definitely the one who let it leak.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Allegedly.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, allegedly. All alleged.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: But how do you feel about the scam overall, Rob?
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Eight out of ten. Would I watch it as a movie? Absolutely.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: I want to see the scene where they're... hazing you
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: by making you slice up a brick of cocaine and
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: you thought someone thinks they're going to get their ass
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: paddled but they end up having to slice a brick.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I think that's a fun scene I would watch. I
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: love that again. No black people were harmed in the
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: making of the scam. I'm a big fan of that always.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: And then everybody looked like they would scam you. And
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Everyone fits the profile of like what I would be
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: looking for if I was looking for something shady on campus.
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: I love thinking about like the frat guys coming down,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: like probably like pinched butt cheeks, like ready for whatever
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: weird thing is going to happen. They're like, hold out
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: your hands.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And they're like, in the Nazi thing?
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not the Nazi thing. Not the Nazi thing.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Not right now. Right now, just hold it out steady.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: They don't even get to go by looks. It's just
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: purely off of you can do this. They're like, all right,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: everybody strip naked. It's literally only so they don't steal
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: bags of coke. It has nothing to do with the humiliation.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a fun, yeah, that
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: would be really fun to watch.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, honestly, this scam, it feels like nobody
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: got hurt. We haven't heard about any overdoses or anything
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: like that. I mean, these kids were using their applied
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: knowledge from the university. I don't know.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want them to go to jail that long.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: No, lock them up. Oh, you said not long. Oh, okay.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I thought you were saying you didn't want them to
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: go to jail at all.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: No, they can go.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: They can definitely go. No, I just had a good
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: time hearing about it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: But you messed up and that's a bad thing. You
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: shouldn't do that. Go to jail.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: They can be guests of the state for a little bit.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But then I feel like they can come out and,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: you know, write a book or have a funny story.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do Dancing with the Stars.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: They could pull a Tim Allen, except for hopefully not
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: go MAGA.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: That's so funny.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: He was a cocaine salesman.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: People don't know that. Tim the Tool.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised you know that, actually.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, freaking snitch and a jerk and a racist.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, bitch ass Tim. Ugh. You know, and that's what
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I want to go out on.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: And, Ron, we always ask on this podcast, where would
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: you like to be found? Anything you want to plug,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: your social media, all of that. Yeah, of course.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Want to plug my special, Eat Cookies and Die. If
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: you like me and like my comedy at all, it's
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: out now on the Grilla Comedy Plus app. And now
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: you're probably saying, Ron, I don't want to download any
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: more apps. And I say, hey, got you. Free Cold
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: War functions. Free week. Just go in, watch my special.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: And then you can dip in and out as you please.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: We all be doing that. Just help me out because
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: for my scam. If you go in and you use
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: that code word and then you actually watch my thing,
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: then they'll be like, oh, Ron was a movement. People
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: actually came over and then they're going to give me
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: more money to make more projects. And I sorely need
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: that so that I can stay home and go to
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: my son's school events instead of being on the road
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: every week. So that's what you could do for me
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: or just follow me on YouTube at Ron Funches.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Help Ron Funches be a father.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: If you're not doing it, you're not helping me be
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: a father. Yes.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: If you don't watch my special, you're making me an
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: absent father.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Thus making yourself an accomplice to absent fatherhood.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: So you are the accomplice to the dead. You are
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: the T-Rob of deadbeats.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: That's right. It all makes sense to me. I want
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: to be out there, active, having fun.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Gorilla Plus. You can remember because you're going to have fun.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: That's easy.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Bunches of funches.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: And you can find all these beautiful faces of these
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: definitely criminal looking dudes. I feel like they probably didn't
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: have to do that much research. They just saw him
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: walking around campus and were like, we should raid that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: guy's room. He looked like he definitely did it. Yes,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: you can see all their faces on Scam Goddess Pod
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: on Instagram. You can watch this full length episode on
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: YouTube or you can see clips on our Instagram. You
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: can follow me at D-I-B-A-L-A-C-I-D Valaci on all socials. You
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: can get my book wherever books are sold. You can
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: watch Scam Goddess wherever you stream your shows. Congregation, I
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: want y'all to get out there.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, I want y'all to get out there and stay entrepreneurial.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Okay? Apply those skills to wherever you see fit and
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: whatever laws you like to abide.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Wait, now this might be bad advice.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Abide the law.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, there you go.