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Trade Deadline Recap · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Sea Geek. This is episode 455.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corden. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Happy December 26th, everybody. Hope everyone got the the gifts
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they were hoping for this year. It was a wild one, yeah.
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That's a great comp. Well, the comp of it being the
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day after Christmas is, is great In terms of the gifts that were
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given out today, I don't know. We just.
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Interesting gifts. I feel like Santa Santa was a
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little a little stingy this year.
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Santa was a little little particular, a little selective
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with his gifts this year. That's a good feel.
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Like, look at it, yeah. I feel like there just wasn't
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the big blockbuster that really scratched the itch this
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deadline, would you? Agree.
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I would agree. I would concur.
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Blame Manfred talked about it before.
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Dude the more teams you let in the post season, the worse this
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trade late deadline's going. To be now, OK, I'm glad I was
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going to mention this for later, but I'm glad you brought that
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up. I can we not point out the like
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I, I, I think it's worth noting that there were more teams this
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year at least rumored reported who were buying than selling.
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It was certainly a seller's market.
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There were some teams that we were expecting to offload some
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big names. Those names did not come off the
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board, but from all, from all reports for from all of what
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these reports indicated, seemed like there were many teams
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looking to fill some holes and there just wasn't.
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There wasn't much out there. That's what I'm saying.
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That's the worst this gets. The more the like, the more the
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teams that are in the hunt, the more buyers are going to happen
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and the more these teams are going to hold on.
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And then you have these super weird, We'll get into the
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details. A lot of these trades, these
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super weird lopsided trades where you're like, how is it
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that these prospects, prospects went for just this name and how
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you couldn't go and get this name with those same prospects.
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So that's what I'm saying is that like all the leverages from
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these sellers, because there's only a few of them and they can
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pretty much have the pick of the litter at what prospects they
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want because some of these teams that are buyers are going to be
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desperate enough to give it away and that's what you're going to
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get. But I think I, I maybe I should
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have clarified. I guess what I was trying to say
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is I was surprised at the reported interests regarding the
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number of teams across the league because we were, we had
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talked about this ahead of the deadline.
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We're like this is this is the this is a side effect of the
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expanded postseason is that and we had speculated that this
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might end up being the case at the deadline, which it's my
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personal opinion that it didn't happen.
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Is that because of the expanded post season, you were going to
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have more like presumably over half the league, more than half
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the league sitting on their hands going well, we're kind of
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fine with where we are. Let's just sit tight and see if
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we can scrap by with what we have.
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Again, I, I, from what I could tell, it seems like there were
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some active GMs, there were some active front offices, but there
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just wasn't the, the asking prices of these few select teams
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that had the, the, the golden goose, if you will, or, or geese
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gooses, whatever the geese, geese's, they weren't willing to
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give up. So I, I don't know, it's hard to
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say how how they expanded the postseason affected this
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particular deadline this year. Yeah, I think we're on the same
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track, just different parts of the train.
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How would you chat get in on this as well?
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One to 1010 being the most insane deadline you've ever
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seen. One being you would have been
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better off taking a nap. How are we ranking this
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deadline? Nate, how are you ranking this
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deadline? Scale of one to 10.
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Three. Really.
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Yeah, hold on. So you, you preface the, you
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right from the jump. You thought that AJ Torres in
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the chat says 6. Andrew says 5 1/2, kind of right
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there in the middle. You off the jump.
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You were like, ah, some pretty good gifts from Santa, No.
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And then you, you, you, you rank it at a three.
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I said hope your team got the gifts you were looking for.
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That's what I said. Oh, I thought maybe you
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mentioned something about there being some some decent gifts.
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I personally think that this this Christmas.
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Sucked. You think this Christmas sucked,
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man? But just look at the names that
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are still around that that stayed and.
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Spencer says 4 1/2. It seems like people are are
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kind of in agreement with you there.
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Like a little a subpar. That and that's that's what
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Manfred Baseball has created, this hope, this level of hope.
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I I'm going to turn a corner here, I'm going to use this
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deadline to turn a corner. I'm I'm going to stop and I'm
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not saying you are, I'm just saying personally, I'm going to
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stop blaming Manfred for the decisions or indecisions of
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these GMs because these say what you all about the postseason.
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These GMs, they're grown men. They can they can make decisions
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for their for their organizations if they so choose.
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And the guy we talked about last episode somewhat at length, Dave
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Dombrowski. I don't think Dave Dombrowski is
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going to let an expanded postseason dictate or or
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determine how how aggressive. He is, yeah.
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It's not the GMs that are being affected.
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That's true. That's that's true.
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Yeah. He he's more so immune to that.
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And there's probably a handful of others that are that are
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immune to that. But AJ Preler being one that
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seemingly doesn't care how many teams are in the postseason or
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not, he's going to go out and unload everything that he has to
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get what he can. But we'll, we'll get into.
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Sweating bullets if I'm a Padre fan.
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We'll get into that as before we get into it got to got to hit on
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the chat one more time here. Name drop the name of a player
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that you whether it's like the blockbuster name or somebody
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else. Name a player that you wanted to
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see mood, whether it was from your team or elsewhere around
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the league that didn't get moved because we we just talked about
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there seemed to be a lot of interest, a lot of desire, I
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guess you could say on the part of many of these organizations
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that just couldn't land the deal because I I guess you could
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chalk it up to asking prices, like you said, expanded post
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season maybe was a factor for some of these front offices.
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Who's who's to really say, But there were a handful of names
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again, blockbuster or not that I feel like thought could be on
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the move, but ended up staying put.
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So let's get into the names that did get moved.
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Speaking of blockbuster names, I guess you could probably say
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this was one of the biggest, if not the biggest moves to to hit
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the dash today. Jack Flaherty being sent over
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from the Tigers. I think the.
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Fact that the Dodgers. The fact that where everyone's
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freaking out about Jack Flaherty should show and tell you how
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underwhelming this deadline is. I mean, you to that point there,
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there were a handful of guys that I don't even think have
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played this year who are being traded.
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And that's what we're, that's what a lot of the commentary was
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on today. So that in addition to what you
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just said, talking about Jack Flaherty possibly being the
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highlight here, combine that with the fact that some of the
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guys that were moved haven't even played this year, that to
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me sort of speaks to what kind of deadline we had.
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Yeah, yeah, tells me that. Why am I forgetting the last
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name? That Scuba Snell?
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Who's the last? Who was that last lefty starter
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that was rumoured? You say sorry I was I was
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reading a comment you said scooble Snell crochet.
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Crochet. Thank you.
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Yeah, yeah, Sorry, long day at work.
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I think the fact that like those three names stayed put, is it it
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just it speaks to how important it was for the Dodgers to get
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Flaherty and because there's kind of a drop off when you look
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at other other names other teams.
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I think the partial sell of the of the Rangers with Lorenzen,
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but holding on to A, to an, you know, a native ALDI tells me
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that there's like this cautious selling going on.
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There wasn't that many starters, a very high asking price.
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And this is a, this was an important move for the Dodgers.
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This was a, this was a big move. I don't remember.
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I remember Trey Sweeney being a part of that, one of the
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prospects. That's just me remembering him
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as a prospect, as a Yankee. I don't remember who the other
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prospect was, but yeah, there was a it was a good move.
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They needed it. They needed to shore up the
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rotation. I just, I'm not, I'm not on the
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Flaherty train. Is that OK?
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No, I'm with you and not to, not to.
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I'm trying. To be like mean about it.
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But no, I'm not trying to be a hater and not to spoil something
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I was hoping to maybe wrap up today's episode with, but in
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terms of predictions of deals that we think may or may not age
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well. Could be one.
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I kind of chalk this up under one that might not because you
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and, and I know he's a year removed at this point and he
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seemingly has turned the season around or, or turned the
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trajectory of his career around. I guess with the way this first
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half is gone. But I, I, I just don't know if
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the reason Jack Flaherty struggled post deadline last
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year when he got sent to Baltimore was maybe an
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expectation thing. I don't know if it that's what
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I'm saying. Like, I, I mean, not to get
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political here, but I think to that clip of Trump when he's
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like, no, no, no, turn those lights off.
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They're too bright. They're too bright.
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Like is that I, I don't know. I genuinely don't know.
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Like is that something that Jack Flaherty struggles with in terms
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of expectation or demands that are are required of him in
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whatever role that he he fits in?
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I would think given the rotation that he slotted into, those
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expectations probably aren't going to be very high, nor
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should they really be, assuming they can get some guys back
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healthy. And still a.
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Swing of things. It's still LA though though.
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Regardless who's around you, those spotlights exist, whether
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or not they're on you or if the guys around you, they, they are
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there and they are on and they are bright.
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So that's, that's something to consider.
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But to going back to original point, this for me, this ends up
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possibly being one that may not we, we look back and may not end
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well. The only thing at play here that
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could determine the direction of that take or that prediction is
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that he will this he'll be heading into free agency at the
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end of this year. So he could maybe use this as a
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as an audition for the rest of the league, assuming going back
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to the spotlight, he's going to, the eyeballs are going to be on
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him every start that he makes from here on out for the
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Dodgers. So that's, yeah, it's, it'll be
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interesting. That's what makes me nervous for
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him because I don't, I just don't know if it's it's the
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pressure that gets to him or, or what.
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Home though, isn't it? It's from California.
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Is California kid? Yep.
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And I don't know if you saw, but I I saw the I think was it his
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mom posted the a picture and it was make it was going viral of
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him as like a little baby and he's like decked out in Dodger
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stuff and they're like, all right, let's roll.
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I mean. We seek these out so much.
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Yeah, I mean, I I'm not saying I'm not saying that that's going
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to lead to anything. I'm not going to say he's going
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to turn into a Hall of Famer once he touches down in LA, but
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just just a nod to the fact that, yeah, he he is going,
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going back home. So cause 'cause it was hit that
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that picture that always makes its round each year on social
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media, it the picture of him from high school.
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It was, it was him. Was it Gino?
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And then Freed I think. It is freed.
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Is it freed? There was like a A3 headed
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monster for their high school and I can't remember that.
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I can't. I I thought it was a brave,
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there's a a third guy there. So yeah, I mean.
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Yeah, I just. We'll see.
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I it's safe to say this was the headlining move for the Dodgers.
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Yeah, I, I think, I think I'd be a little bummed if I'm, if I'm a
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Dodgers fan. See, I don't know if I, I would
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say that if this was the only supporting move that you made
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yet, then yes, I would, I would be a little bummed.
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But I think when you combine it with the fact that they picked
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up Tommy, Tommy Edmond, who I'm, I'm personally a fan of, I I
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just like, I like his game. I like the way he goes about it
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and that I think that's a name that I, I was alluded to earlier
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that hasn't played yet this year, but I, I think he can
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still bring you value with positional flexibility.
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I'm huge proponent of that. Ahmed Rosario.
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And then flexible. Flexible.
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And then as, as we know at this point, Michael Kopek and and
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Flaherty on the bump, I think packaged together, I think those
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are nice supporting pieces to an already star-studded lineup.
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I think all of them combined I'd give it AB minus.
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I'm probably, I'd probably go like B and based on this, like
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we just talked about, based on the state of the, the deadline
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today and really the last couple days, yeah, AB for me puts you
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in the winners category. That's true, because I don't
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think there's too many A's out there.
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I I don't even know if there's. Except one.
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One team. Well, one team got an A.
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There's a big question mark, assuming you're talking about
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the team that I think you're talking about and the one that I
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think you and I were going back and forth on via text today.
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One team you got a. There's a huge question mark
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surrounding that, that name being in or that team being in
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the the winners category there. It's TBD.
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We'll we'll leave it at that. Something's going to pan out,
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you know? We'll see.
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We kind of touched on on the other names Dodgers picked up,
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but All in all, I think package together, I think nice
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supporting roles. The OS?
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Sorry, that's a big dub. That's it.
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That Yanks Phil's dub right there.
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Did it just end it? Just ended.
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That's a big dub, I hate it. I.
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Hate it. These boys are riding high right
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now. The lows will still be low,
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don't get me wrong, but that's a big dub.
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The lows will be low. No, no.
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One will just No one's going to see me look over anymore.
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See. Look.
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Yeah, have you ever seen Nate looking over?
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You know exactly what he's he's doing.
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He's. That's all.
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He's subjecting him, subjecting himself to the pain and
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humiliation that is a rank. He's fan, but he does it.
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He does it. You got to give him credit.
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He does it. He's not backing out.
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Orioles, let's talk O's. Oh, boy.
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Kind of a kind of a head scratch of a deadline for the Orioles.
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They pick up Trevor Rogers from the Marlins.
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They ship off Connor Norby and Kyle Stowers.
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They also pick up Eloy Jimenez. I'll be honest with you, neither
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neither of those moves do anything for me.
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It I we talked about the position of log jam that they
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have all the time and we just got word tonight that they're
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calling Jackson holiday up. So we're, we're kind of, I don't
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want to say we're back into the, we're back to square one with
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the position of log jam because they did, they were able to
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clear up some space a little bit.
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And I think there's a little bit more clarity now in terms of
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who's going to be producing where around the diamond, but
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the to, to have an opportunity. And at this point, I think I'm
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just spoiling the the segment to close the episode of winners and
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losers. I got to I got to chalk up the
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Orioles deadline as as a losing spot because you have, you have
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a legitimate chance or had a legitimate chance to put a
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stranglehold on the division. This was your division to lose
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from the jump. Every, well, I, almost
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everybody, majority of people I think felt that, believed that
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and I said the same thing last year.
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I made the joke of, hey, go out and get Trey Turner go out or
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last year, the year before, whenever, whenever that was.
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Was that last year? Two years ago.
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Two years ago, it's all starting to run together.
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We've been doing this podcast a long time.
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A lot of trade headlines or a lot of just I guess that was
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free agency. But all point remains, I for the
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last, what call it two years, I've been saying like, you're
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here now, like you are very much here.
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You're a part of the national landscape.
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You're part of the national conversation and you're playing
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in a way that proves that. So go out and acquire then.
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And they did. They've done that.
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They they've like tinkered with it.
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I mean, they've they've brought up the the the young names that
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they already have that were already in the system.
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But they go out and get a guy like Corbin Burns.
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But I'm like, that's still not enough.
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Go out and do more. Yeah, They go out and get Craig
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Kimbrel has proven that that's not exactly the the shutdown
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dominant force that they would have hoped.
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At times he's shown it, but more times than not, I think this
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year it has. That's not been the case.
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I think Orioles fans are ready to send them to the moon, but
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you had a chance at a Mulligan here at the deadline.
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And I just don't really feel like you did much to to shore up
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or solidify this this train that's that's moving on down the
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track as we approach October that you're certainly most are
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most certainly going to be competing in.
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So I I'm just not thrilled with what the O's did today.
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Yeah, I, I think the, the biggest issue with amongst the
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O's and, and I would say O's fans and probably us two who are
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just, you know, we're above casual fans.
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Like we know names of prospects. I think the hype is just so high
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on some of these names that we're so familiar with some of
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these names. And there's there's maybe like
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this overvaluing that happens with some of those names.
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Because I think if you were to look at O's Twitter right now,
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O's Twitter's like those names. Plus, maybe one more guy should
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have gotten us as Google should have gotten us a Snell should
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have gotten us a crochet. Snell for sure it.
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Snell for sure I but like another thing is Trevor Rogers.
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I don't I'm not super familiar with this game.
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I didn't look at numbers or anything.
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It's not great. It's not great.
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But I like the these are like some promising names.
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And I just, I've refused to believe that the Tigers were
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like, no, it's Jackson Holiday. That's it.
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That's all we'll take. I refuse to believe that the
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Marlins said no. You're not getting Tanner Scott
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unless Jackson Holiday's in the mix.
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Do we know what I I might be throwing you under the bus here?
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I'm not sure if you wrote this down.
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Do we know what Stowers and Norby were ranking wise?
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Because like I, I think the person.
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Was. 5 in in the in the OS system, yes, right.
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What? Was Stowers got to be top ten,
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top 15? Let's see.
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Yeah, Stowers was. Oh, they already updated it.
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Hold. On Yeah, I was going to say they
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updated pretty fast. I don't know.
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Those fans are probably yelling at us, right?
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Now no, but to your to your point though.
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I, I think you can look directly at the Padres move for for
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Please forgive me guys, it's been a long day.
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Tanner Scott went to the Padres right before I put my foot in my
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mouth. Tanner Scott.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. With like that was a their third
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fifth in like 20 something ranks prospects, right?
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We'll we'll get into that deal number.
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Two, number four and hold on. Oh yeah, no, they shipped off
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that that deal included four. They got #4 number 50.
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I'm sorry #2 #4 #5 and #24. So that's what I'm saying is
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that like, I, I think that's a comparable deal because the OS
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needed needed that. And maybe there was an equation
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of like, all right, well, if we have Batista coming back next
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year, this whole Craig Kimbrell thing was only for a one year
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deal anyway. So like, do we give this up to
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go get a closer that we already have that taken care of next
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year? So, but like at the same time,
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you need this now. And I think you you have an
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entire franchise that's poised to go make a run, but that back
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end bullpen needs to be sure up a little bit more.
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And I'm not talking 678 guys. You did great there.
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Like you did OK there, but you needed a closer.
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There's a few there's a few teams that needed a Tanner
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Scott. And I'm not sitting here saying
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that the Padres did the correct thing, But like at the same
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time, the the Orioles have that form that's able to do that,
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that could have done that. And they didn't do that.
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And at the very least, if you don't go reliever, what exactly
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were were they asking for? For school and snow and crochet?
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And you're telling me it's that much more?
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That's what I'm saying you to, to your earlier point, you're
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saying, well, the Tigers, you don't.
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You don't believe that the Tigers looked at the Orioles and
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said no, you're not getting school unless you get unless you
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include Jackson Holiday. It's very possible that's
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exactly what they said after reading the market, after
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reading the the signs from around the league, the the
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trajectory of how these conversations, these narratives,
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these rumors were, were headed. It's it's very believable after
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seeing how this deadline went and the names that didn't go,
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it's very believable to me at least that these these teams
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that were holding on again to the golden, the golden goose or
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their respective golden goose. And they're like, no, no thanks.
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My my thing with the Orioles, though, is that with those not
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maybe those two names in particular between Norbi and
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stars. I'm just saying they're young,
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they're young guy, like they're young talent.
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They to me, I like, I know they obviously have different skill
25:51
sets. They're they're ranked
25:52
differently, but to me they it all sort of runs together.
25:54
It's just this this giant player pool of, of young talent that
26:00
are just waiting for position to open up that they can just slot
26:03
in. I would have wait given the way
26:07
the deadline went and the the way that we can assume that the
26:11
conversations went between the Orioles and a team like the
26:13
Tigers or the the White Sox or whoever.
26:17
Fill in the blank. If they were, if those
26:20
conversations didn't go the way you wanted to, I just, I feel
26:24
like you should have avoided a panic move such as this, like
26:28
way to offload Norbian stours in the offseason.
26:32
Maybe maybe pack it once once the dust is settled, everybody's
26:35
calmed down because everybody gets everybody gets a little
26:38
crazy at the trade deadline things.
26:40
I mean, if you played fantasy baseball before, you know what
26:43
that's like. So take that feeling and amplify
26:46
it by a million because these are like real, real life jobs,
26:50
careers at stake here and decisions, hard decisions have
26:54
to be made. So given that the conversations,
26:57
assuming that they didn't go the way you wanted to wait till the
27:00
offseason to offload these guys and get something of better
27:04
value, because I'm sorry to say, Trevor Rogers isn't it.
27:08
That's just that's not it. And then you go out and and cap
27:12
off your deadline picking up Eloy Jimenez, which what is that
27:17
about? I don't, I don't know.
27:18
What was that about? What you're not putting him in
27:22
the outfield? And do you like to be able to
27:26
use the flexibility of DH ING Rushman every once in a while I.
27:33
For a team that is absolutely in love, what you talk about
27:37
positional flexibility, for a team that loves positional
27:39
flexibility, this, this isn't it.
27:42
No, it's just weighs you down. He's an anchor.
27:45
I confused, very confused by that one.
27:50
And he hasn't even had a a fully healthy year this year anyway.
27:53
So it's like, what is that the last three years?
27:55
How true. But how I mean, how much of a
27:57
factor is that going to be this year in in terms of his health?
28:00
I don't know. I don't, I don't know if I just.
28:03
I would rather I would rather use those ABS towards a rushman
28:06
half day off a Mayo you can rotate with like Westberg.
28:14
If if if Jackson holiday, who we knew was getting caught up if
28:18
he's playing at second, like there's a lot that you can play
28:21
around with, but that just almost it's almost like an
28:26
obligation to use that. This was a a very this give me
28:31
AD plus on on the Orioles for for a grade.
28:36
This was a very underwhelming, poorly handled deadline.
28:43
We touched on it a little bit already, but the the move that
28:48
the Padres made to go out and get Tanner Scott looking at that
28:52
just a little more more deeply here we were chatting before we
28:58
hopped on AJ Preler. It was getting, I got to say, an
29:03
odd amount of praise post deadline today for this move and
29:08
I'm going have you all forgotten how the deadlines and off
29:16
seasons have gone for the Padres the last what, 2-3 years?
29:21
And what is that amount? What is that amounted to?
29:26
I. Don't get me wrong, we talk all,
29:28
we talk on this podcast all the time about, about wanting GMs
29:33
and, and front offices to, to go for it when they, when they feel
29:37
they're in a position to, to take that leap towards the
29:41
postseason, whether or not they, they make it to the, the other
29:44
side of the, the, the Cliff there.
29:46
That's, that's a conversation for another day.
29:50
But you, you love if they're at least realistically in a
29:53
position to go for it, for them to actually go for it and they
29:56
go for it. But to your point, there's a
29:59
balance. Like I he's he's set that
30:04
between the the the contracts that you're seeing on field in
30:09
the I think I read that he has now moved this year.
30:14
Thirteen of their top 15 prospects just this year.
30:20
And that is Tanner Scott, Jason Adam Louisurais.
30:29
Is that it? I think that's it.
30:32
I. Feel like you're missing
30:33
somebody? Oh, cease.
30:34
Cease. Yeah, don't cease.
30:37
So yeah, that's you've set, you've set this organization
30:47
back 1015 years. I don't think that's, I mean at
30:52
least 10. Yeah, think about how.
30:55
Long these contracts are going to go for the Machado's, the
30:58
Bogarts like these contracts are going to go for a while no well.
31:02
Bogo Sanders, he's not finishing his career in San Diego.
31:06
That they're, they're either going to offload them, they're
31:08
going to trade them, they're going to DF, they're just going
31:11
to release them. I don't know.
31:12
He's not finishing his contract there.
31:14
Money and the the complete wipe out of your farm.
31:18
And I understand pushing all chips into the table.
31:20
And I actually do like what their bullpen looks like.
31:24
This bullpen looks insane. It's nasty, but something that I
31:29
was reading was that maybe like don't be so overly nasty in the
31:36
pen if it can afford you the opportunity to to replenish the
31:41
rotation. Your pen is already in in better
31:46
shape than a lot of other clubs around the league, specifically
31:50
in your league in a league that is very tied up in terms of in
31:57
terms of the playoff picture right now.
32:00
Maybe you should have not invested so much further into
32:06
your pen and instead gotten something to to hold it down a
32:11
little bit while you Darvish is is out, Joe Musgrove is out.
32:17
I think again, like that's tough, man.
32:24
That's tough. Overly aggressive on the back
32:27
end of the pen. Yeah, I'm trying to look up like
32:30
team stats right now. It's kind.
32:37
Of hard, but I think I think balance was the right word to
32:40
use though, because we, we, I mean, we in the last couple
32:45
weeks, we've put a heavy emphasis at with the deadline
32:48
and, and all that we put a heavy emphasis on, on reminding the
32:53
people that listen and watch that our perspective, at least
32:57
when it comes to trade deadlines off seasons, is that you always
33:04
want to air again, our, our point of view, our perspective
33:07
is that you always want to air on the side of proven talent.
33:10
You don't want to become such prospect hoarders that you get
33:14
to a place where you're so reliant on on unproven names
33:19
that you're put in a position to where our the future of our
33:25
season rests on these guys shoulders and half of them
33:28
haven't panned out. You want to you want to offload
33:31
some of those names while you still can, while those ceilings
33:35
are still unreached and while that that potential is still
33:39
there and it and exist in the national narrative.
33:45
But the Padres were just, they're like, oh, you're under
33:49
the age of like 22. See ya.
33:53
It's just crazy. There was this, this was a lot,
33:58
this was a lot. And I just, I, I still don't
34:05
know if they have what it, what it, what is needed.
34:09
I don't know if they're fully complete.
34:14
It's hard to say it does it depends on, you know, Musgrove
34:17
coming back depends on the you Darvish thing, which I I
34:21
actually just learned about today.
34:23
I didn't even know why he's out. But yeah, man, they they need
34:32
all things to go well and it needs to happen this year.
34:35
I he's gone. Trailer is going to be gone and
34:38
this team is going to be You remember when the Marlins first
34:43
moved to Miami and it was like the Jose Reyes the space and
34:53
who's the knuckleballer? RA Dickey.
34:58
RA Dickey They had like some names that they all just like.
35:04
It was like this one year of like, let's get all these guys
35:09
and then. You're talking about, you're
35:10
talking about the rebrand when they when they rebrand it.
35:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, where they and then it
35:16
just like dissolved after a failed season.
35:21
If, if, if the Padres don't come, it's literally a trophy
35:24
like that. It is now a trophy.
35:26
You've wiped everything out, bro.
35:29
You've wiped everything out. Otherwise it's going to be a a
35:32
sell off in in pennies on the dollar because no one's going to
35:36
pick up some of these contracts. Yeah, not, not wild about it
35:42
and. Like he said, buying.
35:46
Yeah, I, I think I was impressed after the first batch of moves
35:50
that Priller made. I was like, this guy just
35:52
doesn't care. He's going for it.
35:53
But then it's like, OK, this is just your MO like this is and
35:57
it's not. It's and not to keep bringing up
36:00
Dave Dabrowski, but it's like it's not in a Dave Dombrowski
36:03
style like that. He's more calculated.
36:05
This is reckless. Very much reckless.
36:07
And I'm like, OK, that the, the, the degree that I was impressed
36:12
with at like at the jump, at the start of all these flurries of
36:19
moves that he was making, it's it's gone now because it's like,
36:22
OK, well, we've seen how poorly you've handcuffed your team at
36:26
this point that it's like, what are we, what are you really
36:28
doing? Do you Do you even know what
36:29
you're doing? Is he like the head of baseball
36:32
operations? Is he not have to?
36:35
Is he not have to get greenlit by anybody for?
36:37
These things, it's hard to say, these GMCBO title, like I get so
36:45
mixed up and who's what? Let's see here.
36:50
President of baseball OPS and GM, Yeah.
36:55
So I suppose he doesn't have to answer to anybody.
36:58
Hard to yeah, hard to imagine him having to get the green
37:02
light. Still, I mean, I feel like
37:03
they're still recovering from the Soto trade like there's.
37:07
I mean, that's just, that's just at this point that's just in the
37:09
mix of of moves that have. Goodness, bro, whatever.
37:17
I mean, think about the names that they offloaded in that
37:20
deal. Yeah, I mean, my goodness.
37:27
Moving along here, the Braves acquire Jorge Solaire and Luke
37:33
Jackson. Bring him back some some dudes
37:37
from the glory days all. Those is just like a a rinse and
37:41
repeat kind of guy, isn't he? Yeah, well, they they offloaded
37:44
Tyler Matzik, old, old nut sack, and he's lovingly called that.
37:49
One hurts a little bit. I'm like, I could really get on
37:52
board with this whole call back to what was that, 2021 if you
37:58
kept him along for the ride. Because I'm like, think, I mean,
38:00
think about it. Duvall, Rosario, Solaire, Luke
38:06
Jackson, If you would have kept, if you would have kept Matzik,
38:08
that would have been great. And then I'd saw some Braves
38:11
fans, whether seriously or not, recommending they bring back
38:14
Jock Peterson. I'm like, you do that.
38:18
You're there. Of the realistic options that
38:20
you could bring back, you're there so.
38:23
It's just weird, I still don't under like who's playing left?
38:31
Andrew says, we thought Alex Anthopoulos was going to cook,
38:34
but turns out he was just heating up leftovers.
38:36
I mean, that's that, that is a, a point of view and probably one
38:41
that I could, I could get on board with.
38:43
I I will say though, again, kind of taken away from our, our
38:49
closing segment, presumably the Jorge Solaire move is actually
38:56
one that I think could age well. We, we talked about it when he
39:01
when he signed with with the Giants.
39:04
We talked about how it just didn't necessarily seem like the
39:07
best fit for his game. And it's really just not, I
39:11
don't know, it's just wasn't wild about the move all, all,
39:16
all things considered. But I feel like bringing him
39:18
back to the Braves, letting him cook there again, I feel like
39:26
could could get the wheels turn in there and in turn help
39:30
revitalize and rejuvenate a rather mediocre Braves offense,
39:35
beat up slash mediocre offense right now.
39:42
I think this one could could. I'm not saying, I'm not saying
39:45
they're going to, they're not going to be playing into
39:48
November, but I think this could could get some wheels turning
39:52
again. Yeah, I know.
39:59
There's nothing for me. I know I'm going out on on a
40:02
little bit of a limb there, but I chalk chalk this one up for me
40:05
as one that I think could age well.
40:09
Little bit of a hot ish take. I mean, he's not exactly a
40:15
scrub, but I, I, I see what you're saying, Gabriel says
40:23
Braves can't give up anyone because anyone that's worth a
40:25
damn is hurt. That's true.
40:28
And while we're on the while we're on the subject here.
40:31
I, I was thinking more about the the continued take that I've had
40:35
over the last couple weeks now about you better not let the
40:39
Braves finish ahead of you in the, in the division people
40:42
saying well, the. Mets.
40:45
Or yeah, don't let the Mets finish above you in the
40:48
division. And all these Braves fans been
40:50
like, whoa, we're just beat up. All right.
40:55
I was again, I was thinking about it some today and I, I
40:57
came to this conclusion, this rationale.
41:00
Take the fact that you're beat up Braves, take the fact that
41:03
you're beat up. Match that with the fact that
41:09
the Mets again, I'll say it's on blue in the face.
41:12
We're not expected to compete this year.
41:15
That leaves your quote, UN quote leftovers up against the Mets,
41:21
quote, UN quote leftovers. You should be beating that team.
41:27
Your, your beat up team should be beating the Mets 10 times out
41:34
of 10. And I'll, I'll, I'll stand on
41:36
that. I'm not going to die on that
41:37
deal because I don't care enough about it to, to do so.
41:42
But what are we, what are we really talking about here?
41:44
Let's not use the injuries as an excuse.
41:46
I, I, I recognize the names that are, are on the shelf, but let's
41:53
not act like you're you're you're trotting a Little League
41:55
team out there. OK, That's.
41:56
What I'm gonna say outfield, Kelnick, Loriano, Duvall and
42:04
Solaire. What year is this?
42:08
Is this 2018? What's going on?
42:11
Why are they? Should still be better than the
42:12
Mets. That's that's entirely my point.
42:14
We don't need to. We don't need to.
42:16
Linger, I think Luriano, I feel like they're going to DFA.
42:18
Luriano. Did you see this?
42:20
He made some. He's done some dopey things the
42:23
last few weeks. And like, even Snit was like,
42:27
yeah, I don't know what that was.
42:28
Yeah. Luriano Loriano's had a has a
42:32
weird he's had a weird career path.
42:34
I will say I, I, you go back to his, his days in Oakland, I.
42:39
I was. You're a good fan.
42:40
I was. Very high on Ramon Loriano but
42:43
just did not pan out. Oh, did I put Rosario in that
42:46
mix too? Like what?
42:50
What year is it? That's a great question.
42:53
Speaking of which, the Astros pick it up, you say Coochie.
43:00
Not just picking up bro. My goodness, what they they got
43:10
mommy and daddy's credit card just swiping away.
43:13
Don't care what it costs. Like damn, relax.
43:18
I mean, what was the full return?
43:24
Low Profito was in that, which did you see that presser?
43:29
He's a little choked up and I appreciate that.
43:31
Anybody that that makes fun of that, I appreciate that.
43:34
Yeah, 'cause that guy is, he's like, he just talked about how
43:38
it felt like home. Oh, I got I got the hall here.
43:43
Jake Bloss, their #9 prospect. Who now becomes Blue Jays?
43:49
Like 3 or 4 prospect. Rookie outfielder Joey Low
43:54
Profito and minor league infielder Will Wagner their
43:57
number 13 prospect. That's a for you sake, a
44:01
coochie. For a guy who is currently
44:07
sporting a 475, he's 49. Not that that necessarily
44:11
matters. He's got a 475 with a whip of
44:13
134. And it's a rental.
44:28
Is it? No year and a half.
44:35
Year and a half. No, he's a no he after this year
44:43
it's a rental. It is a rental.
44:45
He's a free agent 2025. What are we doing?
44:47
What are we doing? I'm telling you, some of these
44:50
GMs just made moves to make moves.
44:53
This is stupid. This was a ridiculous overpay.
44:57
Yeah, this was chalk this up as a, as a the Astros being a, a
45:02
loser at this deadline for that move, that move.
45:05
First baseman. What is what is that?
45:07
You needed a first baseman. That's trash.
45:15
I would have felt better about the Astros had they gone out and
45:18
gotten Josh Bell and just called it a day.
45:20
Right. Like that?
45:21
Yeah. I mean, it would have been nice
45:23
to get a starter, but like, if if you walked away just picking
45:26
up Josh Bell. OK, we're not sitting here
45:29
chalking up as losers of the deadline, but this overpay was
45:33
hideous. It's.
45:35
Ass that's that's an F, that's an FI don't know how that's no
45:41
nothing against Kikuchi because like Kikuchi actually carves the
45:44
Yankees every time I watch him, yeah, it's like.
45:46
He he has his spots, he has his moments and.
45:50
I bet he'll probably have a few solid postseason starts and all
45:55
of this will be brought back up, but still, like I at what cost?
46:00
Again, like that's I would have I wouldn't have done that one
46:05
for one for what was the the prospect, the pitcher, the the
46:09
4th ranked. For the hall, you mean?
46:14
Yeah, glass gas. Oh, Bloss.
46:18
J Bloss. Yeah, that I wouldn't have done
46:22
One for one for that. Good on the Blue Jays.
46:26
No, Yeah. No, I agree with you.
46:28
Yeah. Good job on the Blue Jays part.
46:30
Blue Jays Actually, I I would give.
46:32
They're one of the one other team that I think did pretty
46:36
well for like not moving on from your star power.
46:42
Yeah, and moving names while still getting production or
46:46
still getting like productive names back it they did well.
46:51
Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know how many winners,
46:54
like declarative winners and losers, we can say came out of
46:57
this draft, but there were, I would say, a fair number of
47:01
teams at the deadline that at the very least made smart moves.
47:08
They approached like the Red Sox, for example, like could
47:12
they? Did I want them to do more?
47:14
Sure. Did they add some relievers like
47:17
I wanted, like I was hoping they would?
47:19
Yes. Did they add a starter to the
47:22
rotation? James Paxton, who from what I
47:25
could see, I wasn't able to watch full game from what I
47:27
could see, didn't have the greatest night.
47:28
But like I said, as you're #5 I'm OK with it.
47:33
But but they didn't do too much and honestly, now they were on
47:37
this side of the deadline. There's more.
47:38
There's more teams that did too much than not, right, right,
47:42
right. And there was more recklessness
47:43
than than not. Yeah.
47:46
And to finish my thought, the Red Sox as an example, now that
47:52
we're on this side of the deadline, I can look at how they
47:54
handled the how they approach a deadline.
47:56
And I'm like, could they have done more?
47:58
Yes. But am I glad they didn't do too
48:00
much? Yes.
48:02
Yeah, because after seeing the asking prices for some of these
48:06
guys, I'm like, I understand why you didn't do more.
48:10
Yeah. And I'm glad that you you didn't
48:12
meet that asking price and put us in a bind.
48:16
Yeah, because there's a yeah. I mean, they're they're in that
48:19
weird position where there isn't a ton of pressure to succeed
48:21
this year. There are teams that are under a
48:25
lot of pressure to succeed this year, and maybe that's why they
48:27
had to overpay. It's just it's weird where they
48:30
overpaid. Padres, like we talk about, are
48:34
a great example. Yeah, but this Ashos thing, this
48:37
is a terrible trade. I don't like this at all.
48:40
This is AI think this is going to be like a few years back to
48:43
be like this is a laughable trade or a few years later and
48:46
just like look back and feel like this is this is a mistake.
48:53
Well, name that I meant just mentioned a minute ago, Josh
48:55
Bell. D Backs go out and pick up Josh
48:58
Bell. Is this indicative of the
49:04
severity of Christian Walker's? That's what I was going to say
49:07
meeting on IL. Yeah, this is an issue.
49:10
Sun sound good? Yeah, this isn't like he's out
49:14
for two weeks kind of thing. This is a we need, we need
49:18
somebody now, which sucks because like I was curious to
49:23
see if the, if the dynamics weren't playing well into this
49:25
deadline. I was, I thought he was going to
49:27
move. I thought Christian Walker was
49:29
the name that was going to be sent.
49:32
They're in an interesting position, though, because the
49:34
name that we've we've been talking about who'd been slow
49:37
for a good portion of the first half, Corbin Carroll has has
49:41
seen it up, picked it up. I mean, he had a was that a walk
49:45
off? It wasn't a Grand Slam.
49:47
Did I see it wasn't a Grand Slam?
49:49
Was it that? Was two or three.
49:51
I was a walk off home run either way, I think.
49:54
Yeah, that I don't know. And that this is like,
49:58
especially right after last year, we're like, hey, we got
50:02
hot at the right time. We snuck in, we went on a run.
50:05
It's like eerily similar. I didn't quite have the the
50:12
stones to categorize the Josh Bell move as a, as a deal that I
50:17
thought could age well because I, I just, I don't know if it's
50:20
going to move the needle that much when it's all said and
50:23
done. But put this is like maybe an
50:26
honorable mention. I don't like the fact that Josh
50:31
Bell keeps getting moved around, but as a like as a hitter, when
50:37
he's on, he's on. It's just a matter of being able
50:41
to find that. And I think his inconsistency at
50:44
at times has led to teams being a little more OK with moving on
50:50
to their next best option. And I I think that would explain
50:53
possibly why he I think this is his third straight trade
50:58
deadline being moved and maybe like what fourth team, I guess a
51:03
lot of moving around for Josh Bell, but.
51:05
I feel like he needs to stop switch hitting.
51:10
I think that's a problem. It's hard to say I.
51:15
Don't know whatever. They didn't do anything else,
51:18
did they? The Diamondbacks.
51:20
I don't not of not of note, I don't believe.
51:23
They do a bullpen move. I don't believe so.
51:34
Again I. Whatever, doesn't matter.
51:37
I was only looking at it like the trades of note and I don't
51:42
think that they added anybody of note pen wise.
51:48
Let's see here the where are we at Michael Lorenzen or Royals?
51:55
Add Michael Lorenzen from the Rangers.
51:58
I like the I like the Royals deadline.
52:01
I was a fan of the Royals deadline.
52:03
I think they all did. They get her sig from the.
52:06
They did? Yeah.
52:07
From the A's, they sure did. Wasn't there one more name as
52:11
well? Thought there was one more name.
52:17
Oh well, you're not his biggest fan, but Paul Deyoung, They
52:23
added Paul Deyoung today. Yeah, I thought there was
52:25
something else. I don't know.
52:32
Yeah. I like what the Royals did.
52:33
I like the I like the Lorenz in depth.
52:39
Just smart. I, I, this is I this seems like
52:44
they're, they're navigating with intent, they're navigating with
52:47
with a goal in mind, They're navigating with like depth to be
52:51
able to go through this, this, this run.
52:54
I'd like what the Royals are doing.
52:56
I'm a big fan of what they've been doing for this is this is
53:00
just their job well done and it matches what they've been doing
53:03
for the year. I have a take.
53:06
I don't know how accurate it is. Maybe there was some panic in
53:10
the Royals front office this past week and especially today.
53:14
Maybe they wanted to get more done but couldn't.
53:18
But I'm going to look at the glass half full here for the
53:21
Royals. I'm going to look at this as the
53:23
Royals saying we did what we needed to do in the offseason.
53:27
We're playing up to our standard right now.
53:31
We're in a position to make the postseason and we're comfortable
53:35
with who we have in this clubhouse right now.
53:38
So we don't need to do a whole lot more.
53:40
And that's that's how I'm going to go about my day.
53:44
Thinking that the Royals how how they handled this this deadline
53:47
because that, you know, plug some, I don't even know if you
53:53
could say really holes just added some depth here and there
53:56
and keep on moving. I think I'm with you.
54:00
I think I'm with you. The Royals Royals had a an all
54:03
right deadline. What else we got here?
54:10
The Guardians adding Alex Cobb and Lane Thomas.
54:19
I like the Lane Thomas move. I don't think Lane Thomas gets
54:22
enough love. He sure doesn't.
54:24
You're in that area, you see it. They, oh, they, they know around
54:29
here what, what value he, what he brings to the table.
54:32
And having been in the being in the area myself, I'm, I'm
54:36
familiar with the conversation that surrounds that name.
54:39
But hopefully he has a chance now to to put it on on a bigger
54:43
stage. Alex Cobb is just the eat
54:45
innings. I think it's like a Paxton move
54:48
the Red Sox did. That's what it feels like to me.
54:51
Which I kind of like. This was like one of my
54:53
underrated picks. I'm not going to maybe chalk it
54:56
up as again, as one that I maybe think age as well, but I it's an
55:01
underrated pick for me because at this stage in the game, we're
55:06
you can, you can probably safely say now that we're at the point
55:10
of the season, we're at the threshold where you need to keep
55:14
guys healthy. You need to keep them on
55:17
whatever schedule they need to be on in terms of arms and and
55:22
who you have in that rotation. And having a guy when, when Cobb
55:28
is healthy, I mean, I know he's had some some issues when he's
55:31
healthy, he's pushing 30 starts a season like almost every year
55:35
again, when healthy. So having a guy who isn't has no
55:39
is known to eat innings, that's huge at this stage of the season
55:46
when you're trying to solidify yourself in the division as well
55:52
as bigger picture wise the the the postseason picture.
55:56
I think this was a was a smart move for the guardians.
55:58
And I think, I think I heard today that he had he stayed with
56:02
the Giants, they were going to activate him for a start, I
56:07
think this week. But I've have since heard now
56:10
that the Guardians are going to keep him down for a rehab start
56:14
and then bring him up, which I think is I think that's smart.
56:20
If if you're not paying attention to what the Guardians
56:23
are, look out. I'm thoroughly worried to see
56:31
them in the postseason. I think every team should be
56:35
very worried to see them in the postseason.
56:41
I would not be surprised about an ALCS appearance.
56:45
I really wouldn't. Yeah, what?
56:50
The way they play at home, I would not be surprised.
56:56
Good move. I like that.
56:58
That's I like. The Lane Thomas move.
57:00
That's a take. Yeah.
57:05
I like it. Let's see here, bear with us
57:10
folks. We're not going to be obviously
57:12
be able to get to every single trade here, but I'm just trying
57:15
to go through the list and make sure I touch on the notable
57:18
ones. A team that was active over the
57:22
last week or however long, plus the Mariners.
57:25
They did add Justin Turner traded for Turner from the from
57:30
the Jays. First base sounds like.
57:36
Yeah, I believe so. But it it's I'm not going to,
57:44
I'm not going to crucify the Mariners over this deal because
57:46
they they made other moves before this to put them in a
57:50
position where they didn't have to have so much pressure on
57:53
themselves on actual deadline day.
57:55
They took care of some holes leading up to this.
57:59
So I'll I'll give them a pass. See what else we got here,
58:06
Frankie? That deal, I don't know if we're
58:08
going to get to it, so I'm just going to bring it up now.
58:11
That deal makes me wonder how expensive Yandi Diaz was,
58:20
because I really thought Yandi Diaz was going to get moved.
58:24
And the Mariners, the Astros and the Yankees could argue Red Sox
58:29
two all needed a first baseman that could also slot it third,
58:35
could DH and has pop Andy Diaz just bangs like that's all he
58:39
does is hit. I'm I'm kind of surprised that
58:44
he didn't get moved. And I wonder if it was too
58:46
expensive. Wonder if the Rays were asking
58:49
for a little too much. But that's what that that's that
58:53
Turner deal makes me think, because that probably would have
58:56
been my first choice if I'm the Mariners.
59:01
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like again, to use
59:04
the analogy from earlier, the golden goose issue that seemed
59:08
to be the case for the White Sox with crochet, the Tigers with
59:13
Scooble, that that that golden goose thing mostly surrounded
59:23
pitchers. No like.
59:25
I think for the most. Part there wasn't any real.
59:27
I mean, I mean, I guess you could say Vladdy, but I think
59:31
the Blue Jays made it clear earlier rather than later that
59:34
that. We were all dreaming.
59:36
Yeah, I don't think that they thought that was a thing, but
59:38
maybe the Rays looked at how the deadline went today and they're
59:43
looking around going. The asking price, whether for
59:48
position, player or pitcher at this stage in the game, seems to
59:52
be high across the board. So let's not let's not cave and
59:57
and get something less. I think overall the race we
1:00:02
still had a good deadline if we. Panic.
1:00:04
I think they still did well. I think so too.
1:00:06
I'm just surprised that Yandi didn't go.
1:00:08
And I'm I'm definitely surprised Fairbanks didn't go.
1:00:10
For the amount of teams that needed relief help, I'm
1:00:15
surprised. But Frankie Montas to the
1:00:20
Brewers, I know you have mixed feelings about Frankie Montas.
1:00:25
Every time I see that guy start it looks like he's put on
1:00:27
another 15 lbs. Yeah, it does.
1:00:30
Man's has gotten big. And that's always an interesting
1:00:34
factor or play to see how it affects it.
1:00:36
Some guy, I mean, I know CC is like the classic example, but
1:00:40
like some guys, it legitimately helps some guys.
1:00:44
It just just not the case. Where did he go to Milwaukee?
1:00:54
In division, huh? I think the Reds dropped the
1:00:58
ball a little bit. I mean, the Reds, who did they
1:01:05
get? They got Thai France.
1:01:10
Really thought India was going to go.
1:01:12
Yeah, I know that was guy you wanted.
1:01:16
I wanted him bad. I feel like he would have been a
1:01:19
he would have been a good fit there.
1:01:20
Perfect Fit 0. Well, I don't know, seems like
1:01:24
Jazz Chisholm is doing just fine.
1:01:26
Yeah, but he's still not a lead off.
1:01:28
We're not playing a lead off traded for him as a lead off
1:01:30
guy. He's not even lead off.
1:01:32
He is doing fine though. Where am I out on my list here?
1:01:39
Mark Leiter, Junior Any thoughts on that for the Yankees pin?
1:01:44
Crazy, just flew in to Philly tonight and pitched in extras
1:01:48
today and did well. I would love, I would love to
1:01:53
get a behind the scenes like vlog of a guy that gets traded
1:01:57
on deadline day, makes it to the ballpark, assuming they're like
1:02:03
across the country and actually plays in said game.
1:02:07
Like give me, give me the like swarm of personnel and staff.
1:02:12
They're like escorting him from the front gate to the clubhouse
1:02:16
step or the dugout steps like dressing it.
1:02:20
I, I just picture them like dressing the guy like as he's
1:02:23
like dropping his suitcase and like slamming back a, a, a sub
1:02:28
or something like that. What a wild day.
1:02:31
I. Know but IA lot of swing and
1:02:38
miss. He's a lot of swing and miss
1:02:40
which the bullpen very much needed that.
1:02:43
So I'm excited to see what he does.
1:02:45
I would not be surprised especially again another blown
1:02:48
saved by Clay Holmes tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if
1:02:51
lighter starts closing some games.
1:02:54
Him and Weaver good move though and Caleb Ferguson is gone.
1:03:01
See you get out. Brutal.
1:03:05
We almost got him on the pod back in his Dodgers days but
1:03:09
didn't pan out. Did.
1:03:10
He ghosted us. Sort of like we were both going
1:03:15
back and forth and then it just. I think I remember that.
1:03:18
Because friend of the pod Ross tripling had had put us in
1:03:21
touch. And then I think, I think.
1:03:24
The. Schedules got busy, just got
1:03:26
jammed up. We had a day lined up and then
1:03:28
it didn't work right. Yeah, this was back when he was
1:03:31
with LA, so it's been some time now.
1:03:33
But that's the I just mentioned that because that's like the one
1:03:35
thing I think of when I when I hear that name and I see him on
1:03:38
on the screen for dead deadline day.
1:03:41
Is that where he went? I don't I was one of the ones
1:03:44
that kind of slipped under the radar for me.
1:03:48
Where are we at here? Lucas Sims to the Sox again,
1:03:54
goes back to my original point. Like we at we added some some
1:03:58
arms to the the mix there in the pen, which I'm like I'm pleased
1:04:04
with for for no other reason except that our our pen is spent
1:04:10
right now. Like I at this rate, I don't
1:04:12
really care like how well you pitch.
1:04:15
We just need we need warm bodies.
1:04:18
Yeah. And going back to my, my other
1:04:22
point about the Red Sox in particular is like, I I'm just
1:04:26
glad you didn't do too much. You did.
1:04:28
You didn't overextend yourself to try to make something happen
1:04:31
that just wasn't smart. And so looking at how the Red
1:04:36
Sox did at the deadline as a whole, I'm, I'm like
1:04:40
indifferent, I guess. Do I wish I did more?
1:04:43
Yes, but at this at this point, I'm just excited to see what
1:04:46
this what this mix of guys can continue to do that we've had
1:04:51
pretty much the whole the whole way so far.
1:04:53
So I'm sure that's probably how the front office is feeling at
1:04:56
this at this point too. So we'll see.
1:05:00
We touched on the Padres already, but Martine Perez as an
1:05:05
as an arm to that rotation depleted rotation.
1:05:12
Innings. Yeah, on those days that you
1:05:17
just like you just need a guy to go out and veteran and Brack ups
1:05:21
and Mayans he that's another guy.
1:05:25
Talk about a guy who has his spots and his moments.
1:05:28
Yeah, I would agree. He can.
1:05:29
He can twirl. He.
1:05:31
Looked good in the postseason last year, didn't he?
1:05:33
With the Rangers? I thought he did OK.
1:05:36
I think so. Finished with a or No, that was
1:05:40
2022. I don't know.
1:05:43
I don't remember how we did in the postseason last year.
1:05:46
But whatever. Got a ring, though, we know
1:05:49
that. But yeah, that's a guy that can
1:05:52
twirly a a a 1/2 tease and outing, and I think the Padres
1:05:56
will take whatever they can get at this.
1:05:58
Point, I think he's OK, potentially like a a middle
1:06:01
relief guy role as well. Yeah, he's, he's been both.
1:06:05
And honestly, I don't know what they're planned.
1:06:07
I think when you get back, yeah, Joe Musgrove gets back.
1:06:11
Like maybe that transition happens.
1:06:13
Yeah, I don't know. Like I said, I don't know what
1:06:16
their plan of use for him is, but he he has done both.
1:06:21
He's he's started and he's gone the long relief route.
1:06:24
So we'll see how they use them. Did we tell?
1:06:28
I don't think we touched on Mark Hanna.
1:06:30
Giants pick up Mark Hanna. Weird, weird.
1:06:35
You've never been all that high on Mark Hanna anyway, so.
1:06:37
I just I don't think I'm high on either party Mark Hanna or the
1:06:41
Giants. And I hate the the reports of
1:06:45
like teams checking in on Snell, but they they're selling Solaire
1:06:50
to keep snail because they're in the hunt.
1:06:53
Like that's all I saw. And I was just like, whatever,
1:06:55
like that talk about like a lack of self-awareness.
1:07:00
It's the San Francisco Giants. Well, it would be worth checking
1:07:07
out Blake Snell's second-half numbers.
1:07:09
Like I, I think if you look at his career, I think the
1:07:11
second-half is certainly his friend in in relation to the
1:07:16
first half. Going to do anything?
1:07:19
I, I'm not saying the giants, I'm just saying Blake sell Blake
1:07:22
Snell in particular because I know it's a name we've, we've
1:07:24
brought up multiple times on this on this episode, but just
1:07:27
something, just something to look out for.
1:07:29
Not saying that Blake Snell is going to be the savior that they
1:07:31
need. I I think they probably need a
1:07:34
little bit more, but just worth noting, especially after the
1:07:40
disastrous start to the year he had, as we well know and has
1:07:44
been well documented, Mets pick up Paul Blackburn.
1:07:52
I honestly think this might be the last one I have on my list
1:07:54
here of semi. I think we're we're on the
1:07:59
second third tier of trades at this point.
1:08:01
And as I mentioned, there are plenty more that took place in
1:08:05
in a flurry of of moves in the final moments of the deadline
1:08:09
today. But Paul Blackburn to the Mets.
1:08:13
Good move. Underrated move I think.
1:08:19
I think this was a. Fitted into that category of
1:08:23
Martine, Perez and Paxton and it's just back end, rotation,
1:08:29
depth, eat innings. I think this.
1:08:32
With a high up, I think a higher upside.
1:08:33
Yes, yes, yes, I and I was going to mention that, but I think I
1:08:39
think this was an appropriate response given the the crazy
1:08:43
overpays, given the crazy asking prices as as we've harped on
1:08:49
from this deadline, I think this was an appropriate response to
1:08:53
losing presumably Kodai Senga for the rest at least the
1:08:57
regular season. I don't know what what October
1:08:59
holds for the Mets or or if that's part of the the picture
1:09:03
of the plane here, but I think this was an appropriate
1:09:06
response. I don't I mean, he's not going
1:09:08
to be Kodai Senga for you, you can assume, but I think this was
1:09:13
this was smart on on behalf of the Mets to go out and identify
1:09:17
a guy who can give the minions something.
1:09:19
Unfortunately, Kodysenka hasn't been able to do for you this
1:09:22
year. And he's going to eat.
1:09:25
He's like I said, he's going to eat those innings.
1:09:27
He is going to you mentioned the upside.
1:09:31
I I think there's there's some possible upside there.
1:09:34
And with the way that the Mets have been like flirting with
1:09:38
good to very good ball as of late, maybe he gets into the mix
1:09:43
there and and this is one of those names that you look back
1:09:47
at the deadline and go wow, the Mets actually Mets actually
1:09:51
pulled off quite the move there. One that did not seem to take on
1:09:56
many people's radars at the time.
1:09:58
So time time will tell. But I'm I'm with you.
1:10:02
I was I think I was a fan of of that deal as well.
1:10:07
Low key any I mean, we kind of touched we touched on winners,
1:10:13
losers, the net, oh, the team that we were kind of teasing at
1:10:19
the beginning of of of being what we think, what we hope for
1:10:23
their case is a winner. Are we are we talking Miami
1:10:27
Marlins here? We are.
1:10:29
OK, I intention I intentionally put a question mark though.
1:10:35
I, I listed out my winners. I will listed out my losers of
1:10:40
which I think I've already shared at this point, but I put
1:10:44
a question mark next to the Marlins because it really
1:10:48
depends this massive haul that they got from this this week or
1:10:54
today or this week, whatever ended end up being, are you
1:11:00
going to deuce? Are you going to handle it well
1:11:03
or we just looking at more of the same?
1:11:05
That's fair. That's very fair.
1:11:08
That's very fair. But I do think that this was an
1:11:12
excellent job of I mean, what did what did they get like 1516
1:11:19
names added to their farm? Some it was something like.
1:11:24
That they traded like 30% of their roster, yeah.
1:11:29
Jazz AJ Puck, Tanner Scott, Trevor Rogers, Brian De La Cruz,
1:11:36
Josh Bell. Josh Bell Yeah, you said jazz.
1:11:43
I think there was somebody else in there 'cause there's, what,
1:11:50
nine they got rid of? 99, yeah.
1:11:53
I think there was nine names they got rid of.
1:11:56
I think they added like it's got to be like close to 20 names to
1:12:00
their farm. Yeah, like and yeah, somewhere
1:12:02
in there. Yeah, there's some, there's some
1:12:04
dudes that can bop in there. So I, I think this was the job
1:12:07
well done. My I've got some losers.
1:12:14
The Rockies, you're a loser. You're just a freaking loser.
1:12:19
You're just, you're just so you're so low of a loser.
1:12:23
I mean, what what are you doing? I get it.
1:12:26
But like, what are they? What are you going to?
1:12:28
What are you going to ship out if you're the?
1:12:29
Rockies based on what we saw, Ryan McMahon would have brought
1:12:36
back fan OK, Yeah. Kevin McMahon would have brought
1:12:40
back a whole lot. Angels loser.
1:12:44
What are you doing? Tyler Anderson, Taylor Ward
1:12:48
Renhifo Renhevo. True.
1:12:51
Yeah. What are?
1:12:52
What are you doing? Tyler Anderson was the name I
1:12:55
saw on more than one occasion today where people were saying
1:13:00
he should not be in an angel's uniform by the end of the day.
1:13:03
And here we are with Loser. Not just him, you mentioned
1:13:07
Taylor, Ward, Renhifo. I mean, what are what are we
1:13:13
doing? Yeah, that's utility guy.
1:13:18
And are we, are we making a run at it?
1:13:20
Angels like what do? What is the vision?
1:13:22
What is the plans? What is the direction?
1:13:24
Such a miserable thing going on over there.
1:13:29
I would call the the Rays a winner.
1:13:30
I'm going to chalk them up as a winner.
1:13:32
I think they did well. I think they kept themselves in
1:13:35
a position where like, they're still going to you just watch.
1:13:39
They're going to get their names back in the rotation next year,
1:13:44
held on to some pieces. They're going to be fine.
1:13:46
At 9 1/2 back angels, are we going to make a run at it?
1:13:49
Are we, are we, are we going for it?
1:13:51
Freaking loser. Sorry, I just had to get that
1:13:54
out there. Cool. 14 games under 500.
1:13:57
Even better. 12 back in the wild card.
1:14:01
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, yeah, you want to get
1:14:06
into some names. They've already, like, kind of
1:14:08
done their thing. You see Tommy Pham hit a Grand
1:14:10
Slam. Today, Tommy Pham hit a Grand
1:14:12
Slam. I think you, I think we're
1:14:14
talking Jazz has what, 4 four home runs through.
1:14:19
Through three games. Through three games, what was
1:14:21
the other? Be fair one was off a position
1:14:24
player but hey counts. Hey, it's a it's a home run in
1:14:29
this in the in the score book, who was the other name we're we
1:14:34
mentioned? That came in right away.
1:14:40
Austin Hayes with the Phillies. Yeah, you said he went deep.
1:14:43
Was that deep today? I.
1:14:45
Think he had four. RB is tonight.
1:14:49
Love to see it. I'm a little curious as if, like
1:14:54
the if the Phillies are going to be OK, like when you take Soto
1:14:58
and Sir Anthony Dominguez out of that, out of that bullpen, like,
1:15:02
are they OK? They're going to be all right.
1:15:06
Yeah, that was similar for me at least.
1:15:10
I kind of put them in the O's in the same boat where I'm like,
1:15:14
you really had a chance here to like.
1:15:17
Double down. Put your foot on the throat of
1:15:20
the rest of not just the division, but the league.
1:15:24
And I mean, they got the best team in baseball.
1:15:29
So clearly whatever they've done to this point has worked.
1:15:32
But I'm like, I don't know, it's like we talked about it's that
1:15:36
it's finding that balance of like we're good clearly with
1:15:40
with what we've got here. We don't need anybody else
1:15:43
versus like, why not just go full like, yeah, just domination
1:15:51
mode and and bring in some reinforcements.
1:15:54
It's it's a balance. You got to strike.
1:15:55
And I think Davey is one of those guys that's like, no,
1:16:00
we're, we're good. He looks around, he goes.
1:16:02
We've made. We made the moves we're going to
1:16:03
make. We're don't rock the boat too
1:16:05
much. Yeah.
1:16:06
So I don't know. Yeah.
1:16:12
Well done. Well done.
1:16:15
Well done. There's a lot going on.
1:16:18
Also, did the twins do anything like a single move with just one
1:16:24
singular move? I don't believe so.
1:16:32
Let's do a quick. Let's do a quick command F on
1:16:38
the. They got Trevor Richards.
1:16:45
Well, thanks for hanging out with us tonight, everybody.
1:16:50
Oh, they got Ryland Bannon. That was actually July.
1:16:54
That was July 15th. So I don't not really sure what
1:16:57
we're doing there. I'm.
1:16:58
Not going to count that. To be fair, they got him in
1:17:02
exchange for unknown compensation, so.
1:17:04
Hey, oh, nice. Talk about rocking the boat.
1:17:09
Yeah, thanks for hanging out with us, folks.
1:17:10
This was fun. Apologize again.
1:17:12
We weren't able to get to everyone, but I feel like we
1:17:14
covered enough of the trades. At the big ones.
1:17:17
In in depth to hopefully give you some things to chew on as we
1:17:23
I don't want to say enter the unofficial second-half, but as
1:17:25
we now are on this side of the trade deadline threshold now we
1:17:31
go as you remember there's no like second deadline, there's no
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like weird waiver thing now yeah, that's gone.
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So like, we're this. Is it?
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Now we go whether you made the, whether your team made the moves
1:17:46
you're hoping they would make or they didn't, who you got is who
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you got. So now we go collectively, all,
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all teams are now a go and we'll see how these post season
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pictures shape out or shake out. We we've we've mentioned the
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National League is very, very clogged right now.
1:18:09
That wild card race is still just a headache to try to sort
1:18:13
through. And then you got some races in
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the American League that are going to be interesting to keep
1:18:18
an eye on and going to be very intrigued to see how these
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additions slash subtractions at the deadline effect said races.
1:18:28
So yeah, appreciate you all hanging out with us.
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This is going to serve as our second episode of the week, so
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you guys won't hear it 'cause we we did a deadline update on
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Sunday, right? Sunday.
1:18:46
Yeah, so this is our second episode of the week, so you
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won't hear from us until next weekend, so.
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Sunday. Enjoy the rest of your week of
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baseball. That's all I got.
1:19:03
Yeah, quick note, I think, I think James McCann is a real
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tough SOB. But I did catch a few highlights
1:19:12
of the women's rugby going on in the Olympics and all of them
1:19:16
looked like that. So how tough is he really?
1:19:18
You know what I mean? That's that's a valid point.
1:19:20
That's a valid point. So yeah, that's all I got.
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So don't go stay some curveballs.
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Well said, we love you all and as always, looking forward to
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talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.