Latest / Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen / Chulin 31
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: Alright, Khulindaflamidal.
- 0:01SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start by the Mishnah on Lamidalafam and Alif because it's Sunday and we get to choose and we want to be ahead this week.
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: So either way, Zak the Mishnah.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Nofla Sakin Vishahta.
- 0:10SPEAKER_00: Someone dropped a knife, it fell out of his hand, and it schechted an animal.
- 0:14SPEAKER_00: If you think that's crazy, yesterday or really today's daft, if we would have started in the right place, he had Rubba that sharpened an arrow, shot it, shachta in mid-flight.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: Really cool.
- 0:22SPEAKER_00: Either way, it was a cutter shita.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: Legend.
- 0:25SPEAKER_00: But either way, the Mishnah says he drops a he drops a knife in Shakhtan.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: And it was a clean cut and shachat and did a good shita.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: So Alpha Bisha Shachtakidarki, even if it does a good shahita, so it's gonna be possible.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 0:35SPEAKER_00: Shnematha Pasak says, There's a hackish between the Zvachta Vehchata, between the Shita and the Akhidah to teach you that what are you allowed to eat?
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Mashe at emphasis on the ata.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: Only what you were zebeh, only what you shachhted, you're gonna be able to eat.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: What's the point over here that it has to become it has to come mikayach someone inshaAllah?
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: It has to become mikayach the person.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: And even if he doesn't have cavana, we're gonna see soon.
- 0:59SPEAKER_00: Rabnasan Rabbana, but either way, even if he doesn't have kavanah necessarily, vizabacht of a kata, it has to at least come mikayach.
- 1:05SPEAKER_00: Because over here it just dropped out of his hand, and the Gemar is about to make a diyuk that it sounds at least that if he gave a little bit of kayak behind it, it would have been good enough.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: But either way, with that, Zak Mishnah.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: Time it and aflah.
- 1:15SPEAKER_00: What's the obvious diiq from the Mishnah?
- 1:16SPEAKER_00: The reason is because it fell out of his hand, and there was no kayak behind it that you know it didn't come with his force.
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: Oh, he pe la who but if he dropped it, he uh threw it on the ground, and he threw it down without kavana to do shaita, then what are we gonna say?
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: Kshaira, then it's gonna be kosher.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: Because as long as it came, it came from his kayak, it's gonna be okay.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: Um, even if he didn't have kavana.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: The afakavdal mechan.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: Even if he didn't have cavana, so is the tana, the loibe in a kavana, who does not need you to have kavanah for shaithah.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: We had this earlier in the masakta, the ira who was sorry, oyshya, who was the ira de Milchavraya, he was the youngest of the Khabra, he thought over the following.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: Zuraq sak in the naysa bidkhay.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: So someone went axe throwing and he threw a sac and he threw a knife to get it stuck into the wall.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: Uh the Halkhabi Shaqtak, and on its way, boom, Kashra's khitah straight through an animal.
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: So, and it was the kosher shit, so Ramnasan a shit button.
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: Ram Nassan says it's okay, Khacham, we're gonna pass you.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: Now, again, in this case, did it come with his kayak?
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: Did it come with his kavana?
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: No, his cavana was to go axe throwing.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: His kayak, though, he did throw it.
- 2:22SPEAKER_00: So again, the whole Mishnah, the diak we made from the Mishnah is he just dropped it.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: But there was no kayak behind it.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: He opened his hand and it fell down.
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: It didn't come from his kayak.
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: That's where it's gonna be possible.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: But the tan of the Mishnah must be Rim Nassan, who holds again that the diak which comes out of the Mishnah is that if he did throw it with his Kayak, even though he didn't have Kavana, it's gonna be okay.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: Because as long as it came Mikayah Gavra, as even if he didn't have cavana, it's going to be okay.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: As we saw, if you go axe throwing, it came Mikaycha, even though you didn't have Kavrana, it's going to be no problem.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: Chachan, however, points him in that case.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: So Rava that brought this down, Rava that brought down Rabisha as the Era the Min Khabraya, he that brought this machlegis between Ramnasan and Rabban, he brought this.
- 3:14SPEAKER_00: Why does Rava need to reiterate and tell us again that Allah Zakim Nasan that you don't need kavana for Shikita?
- 3:17SPEAKER_00: Where did we see Rim Nasan already?
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: It's not Vikulan Shashahtubachim Ray Nasan, this was the first mission of the Massachet.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: Anyone, Vikulan, right?
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Vikulan Ahai.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: We had all these suyas.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Who's it going back on?
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Elaim, Achar Shah de Vakatan.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: Now we came out in the suya that it's obviously going on the Kherashadh Vakatan.
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: The question is, who else is it going on?
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: But Vikulan Sheshahtubachim Ryanasan, Shikitashira.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: What were we talking about?
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: We're talking about the Khershad of Vakatan.
- 3:38SPEAKER_00: As long as other people saw them, Achir and Ryanasan, to see that it was a good shaita, shaitan shah, it's gonna be good.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: What do we clearly see?
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: You don't need kavana, because they don't have kavana, it's a chairshad of kata.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: So obviously we don't need kavana.
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: And Rava said, Vama Ravba Ravnasani.
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: And I'm sorry I skipped the line.
- 4:01SPEAKER_00: And we said, who is the Tana of the Mishnah that clearly doesn't need Kavana Vishita because Achar Shahid Vakata and don't have Kavana.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: And all we need is that Achar and Raiana I son, other people see that as a good Shita.
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: Who is that?
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: says Rava.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: It's Ramnasan.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: He does not need Kavana.
- 4:13SPEAKER_00: So why do I need Rabbah to come and tell us again that Allah is like Ravnasan and Ravnasan's a shitta that holds, you don't need cavana for shita.
- 4:19SPEAKER_00: He already said a khadazimna.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: We don't need it again, says the gimmicksh.
- 4:22SPEAKER_00: I need Rabba to say this in both cases, both over here and over there by the Hershat of Vakatan.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: Diashmeen and Hasan, because I only said it by the Hershat of Khatan in the first Mishnah Bisham to come chavid.
- 4:32SPEAKER_00: Because over there at least he washavan the shum chatiha.
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: The kershad of a katan, he might not have that, but whatever kavana he did did have, he was trying to cut.
- 4:41SPEAKER_00: So he might not know Shita, yeah, Shita no shita.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: He knows he's cutting though.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: So he was a mechavin lashay mashkita.
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: He wanted to cut, so maybe that's good enough.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: Over here, there's no cavana mekla.
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: He didn't try to cut anything.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: So over here, maybe, maybe not.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: Abahachat alai mika mechaban aimaloi.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: And if I only said it over here, Misham the Kawasa Mikhach Bandas.
- 5:07SPEAKER_00: And then today, who did it come from?
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: Whose Kayah did it come from?
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: A bandas.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: He might not have had the kavana, but he's fully, he's not a Kherashad of Vikhat, and he's a Bardas.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: And therefore, maybe that's gonna be good enough, even if he didn't have the Kavana, because like he could have had the Kabbalah, maybe.
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: Kalara in Libila, you could say, as far as maybe.
- 5:22SPEAKER_00: But the point is, I'm al-Hasab over there by the Kherashat of Vikata and the Lai Ka'as and Mikah Bendas, Amalloi.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: But over there that it didn't come from Mikahabendas, it came from a Kherashhat of Vakatan.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: I don't care that he had in mind the Khatikha ba alma, but at the end of the day it didn't come from a koih benas, amaloi.
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: So I would think maybe it's not gonna be good to Sricha.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: That's why I need Rabba to say, like Ravnasan, in both cases that you do not need kavana for shrikita.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: What do you need?
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: You need it to come mikaicho.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: You can't just open his hand and drop it.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: He has to at least throw it down.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Even if you didn't have kavana to do shittah, it's gonna be okay.
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: Let ribnasan.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: Says Gamar Itmar.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: Said over the following.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: Nida shenansa vitavla.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna see.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: Rashi says, the kamefar shekensa.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: And also we're gonna see soon why we're bringing this whole thing.
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: We're gonna explain how she was Nensa.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean she was Nensa as in someone violated her.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: It means Nida Shinensa Vitavla.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: She was Tovlah Beoinas.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: Meaning she went to the mikvah, she was a Nida, and she went to the mikvah on time.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: That would be Matar, but she went to the mikvah be'inis, meaning she did not try to go to the mikveh.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: Someone forced her into it.
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see soon.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: So it went Nidah Shinensa Vitavla.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: She went to the mikveh be oinas.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be good tvila?
- 6:22SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be not a good tvila?
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: So I'm reviewed my rab, rebub this in the name of Rab.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Tehoyra Lebesa, Vasura Kabetruma.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: So it depends for what?
- 6:29SPEAKER_00: As it relates to her husband, Tehoir Labesa.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: She's ta' tar for her husband.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: So trashi lizakik labaila.
- 6:36SPEAKER_00: So she's tehoira for Tashmish.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: However, for Truma, she's not allowed to eat truma.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Vasurachabruma, if she was uh Ishlaskai, she's not allowed to eat truma because the tvvila as relates to for truma you're gonna need cavana.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: That's not gonna be good.
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: For Byechan, I'm afli basulaitar.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Ribiachman says she's not even tahoira for her husband, it's not gonna be good enough at all.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: This is a tvila without cavanas after b'echran, and it's not gonna be good across the board.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: According to Rav.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: Again, Rabbi Huda quoted Rav that said it's gonna be good enough for her husband.
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: So says Gamara, Lir Rav, or rather, Ravasetra Nachman.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: Lir Rav, according to Rav Damar Tailabesa, Basurahabit Truma, that said it's gonna be good enough for Tashmish, but it's not gonna be good enough for Truma.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: Avoin Kharis, Hutra, Easter Misa Mi boy, I don't understand.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: If Avain Kharis was Hutra, then Misa Bideshamaim shouldn't be.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: Now what's more Hammer?
- 7:24SPEAKER_00: The claw is Kharis is more Hammer than Misa Bideshamaim.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: And therefore, what's the Khi of Karis over here?
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: Nido.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: Nidha's the Khi of Kharis.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: And what's the Misa Badeshamay?
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: That's a child's truma, Bituma.
- 7:32SPEAKER_00: So if the Avoin Koris, which is more Hammer, that was Hutra, that becomes mutter.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: It's good enough for Tashmish, which is Kareis, which is more Hammer.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: So Avoin Misumi, boy.
- 7:42SPEAKER_00: So obviously it should be good enough for Truma.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: What's more Hammer?
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: Karis is more human than Misubadeshamaya.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: So I don't understand.
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: Why are you telling me it's good enough for Tashmish, but not good enough for Truma?
- 7:48SPEAKER_00: So says Gmar Amalay, he told him back that by law hulinu.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: You're right.
- 7:52SPEAKER_00: It has nothing to do with what's more Khammer.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: It has nothing to do with the fact that that's Kharis and this is Misubadeshamayam.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: That's not the point over here.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: The point is, is it good enough for Katshim?
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: Kotchim is a different thing.
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: Not that necessarily the you're right, the o'inish is more chamar.
- 8:05SPEAKER_00: But there's a separate din that khod shim needs cavana.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: And a tfila without kavana might be good enough for Hulin.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: Well it's not good enough for Kodchim.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: For Kodchim, you're gonna need Kavana and the Tfila, it's a separate in the gamre, nothing to do with Hammer or Ka.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Okay, what do we where do we see?
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: Bail Hulin.
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: Because her husband, that's Hulin, right?
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: Is there anything it's Kivish Kadashan?
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: But the point is, as it relates to uh for for kodchim or truma aspect, it's considered hulin.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: He's considered hulin.
- 8:30SPEAKER_00: As it relates to being toval for hulin, for regular hulin, you don't need kavana.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: As for ta for for khotchim, however, something that has to do with kh'chem truma, these types of that you're gonna need kavana for the tvila.
- 8:41SPEAKER_00: And if you don't have kavana for the twila, it's not gonna be good enough.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: So I can't rematimra.
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: Where do we see this inin that you need kavanah for kachim didn't?
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: We have a Mishnah.
- 8:51SPEAKER_00: Gal Shinitzlash, Ubayarbaim Sa.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: If you have a wave that was nitlash, it got what does nitlash mean?
- 8:56SPEAKER_00: It was like separated.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: It came out of the water, it came separated from the yam.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: That's the point, from the ocean.
- 9:00SPEAKER_00: So you have a big wave, it's coming up, ubayarbaim sah, and in this wave you have 40 sea.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: That's the amount you need, obviously, for a mikfa.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: Vinafa'adam and it fell on a person, Val Kalim, and also on Kalim that were tmayim.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: So in this case, Taharin.
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: They're both going to be tar.
- 9:13SPEAKER_00: So what does that sound like?
- 9:15SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna explain.
- 9:16SPEAKER_00: My love Adam Dummy the Kalim.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: Aren't we trying to compare a person to the Kalim?
- 9:20SPEAKER_00: What's the point we're trying to bring out?
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: Just like Calim don't have Kavana, that's obvious.
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: So to a person, when the wave falls on him, he doesn't need kavana, just like the calim didn't have kavana, and it's gonna work.
- 9:32SPEAKER_00: So to the person, as long as he was standing there in the right time, right place, it fell on him, he doesn't need kavana, and it's gonna work.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: Says the gummar mimai.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: How do you know the case is that he's not doesn't have kavana?
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: Domba Biyashiva Mitsabaskina.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: Maybe we're dealing with a case where he's mamish standing there waiting for the wave to come on him, so he's it's gonna be a Kashara Mikpa.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: That that was What?
- 9:52SPEAKER_00: Niggamar's gonna send.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Very good.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: But uh Biyashimatamaskin, says the Gamar, Domabiyash Matabaskin.
- 9:59SPEAKER_00: Maybe we're talking about a case where he's mamish sitting there waiting.
- 10:01SPEAKER_00: Uh Nagamar explains, Ay Musayyit Shagali, he's mamish being Yoshivu Mitsapeh, when is this wave gonna come and fall on me?
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: Like where Mitsapah from a shia, he's sitting there, Aim Sayyitla Shagali, he's mitzapah.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's the case, so he does have kavana.
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: And therefore, we would learn actually the opposite of a kalem dummy da'odam.
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: And if the case is where she is Yoshivu Mat'abh, then maybe we should learn that the Kalim in this case are also dumy the adam.
- 10:23SPEAKER_00: That Ma adam de meen a kavana af Kalim Nami to comehabnu adam.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: That just like a person in this case needs kavanah, so to the calim in this case are only gonna become to harim if a person was machavin about those kailim.
- 10:33SPEAKER_00: Says Gemara, okay, your question.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: Then you're gonna tell me Byosh and Matabah, what's the Ghost Khidish?
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: He was Kavani, he went to the mikfah there was 40 saw in the wave.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: Ma'abaya says the Gemara mounted him, I'll tell you the khidish.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: Because I would have thought maybe to make a xera.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: Ligzar Mishum Hardelah Shogishamim, I would think to maybe make a Ghzera because of the inun of Hardalah Shoghishamim.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: This Hardalashogishamim is a waterfall, basically, that came from rainwater.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Now, if you try to be tival in a waterfall from rainwater, it's not gonna work.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: The reason it's not gonna work is because in the waterfall itself it doesn't have 40 cell, that's the sugi over there.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: If it doesn't have 40 cell in one place, that's not gonna be good enough.
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: It's and and that's in the same sugia that we say, right?
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Hanitsuk and the when you have a flow, is it considered connected?
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: Is it considered khibur to the place it's coming from?
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: So you have the waterfall.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: So where it's coming from obviously has 40 cell, and where it's going to, maybe it has 40 cell, and it's connected.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: I'll pee the flow, it's connected from the flow itself, connecting the top and the bottom.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: But is that gonna mean it's starved to the 40 cell that you need?
- 11:30SPEAKER_00: So we said that the Nitsuk is not considered Khibor, it's not considered a khibr, and therefore, in this waterfall where you were titled, you don't have 40 saw in that place itself.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: And that's why it's gonna be possible if someone tries to be titled in there, because it's not gonna be considered a kibur.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: So I would think maybe the wave, even though it does have 40 cell, maybe I should be Gaiser Mishom, Hardelishamaim, Inami, another reason we can make a xera, is bigger Russian Atukipin.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: Maybe I should make a Xira of Russian Atukepin.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: This means that when you have a wave, although you could be titled in it if it's 40 cell, that's only true that you can be titling it if you're on the if the water is touching the ground.
- 12:03SPEAKER_00: So Russian meaning Russian is a good Russian Russian means the top of the wave.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: When it's crashing down, the top of the wave comes on you and the water hits the ground.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: Atukeepen.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: Keepin is the is is like the keepin' of the wave.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: If you try to take a clee and throw it in the middle of the wave while it's soaring through the air, that's not gonna be good.
- 12:18SPEAKER_00: The reason is because you can't a kvila is not gonna be good when the water is hovering in the air.
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: The water has to be mechobilakarka.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: If the water is not mehobilakarka, if you go in outer space, you have 40 cells, it's not really gonna work.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: You have to it has to be mekhobilakarka, and therefore if you have the wave by end sides going in, you throw a clee through, even if you have 40 cell, it's not gonna work because it has to be Mikhobilakharka.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: So I would think maybe in that case, even if you are uh in this wave of a matze of mechobilakarka, I would think to be Geyser, because you might do it auto-keep in where it's not Mukhob alakharka on the top of uh where you put it through the middle of the wave, Kamash Malanda Gazina.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: The kidishes, and that's that's why it's not obvious.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: I would think maybe to make these gzairs, one of the two we just mentioned, Kamash Malanda Lagazirinan, and it's gonna be okay.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: We don't have this gzeyra.
- 12:59SPEAKER_00: So it's like umana timra, dulay matulinabeepin.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: And who said, by the way, that we're not allowed to be toivel b'kiepin, basically, while the wave is not touching the floor while it's uh in the middle of its process, if it's not, we have a Mishnah.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: Matbilin Biroshin, vein matbilin bekipin sha'in matbilin babir.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: And the reason is, like I explained, because you're not not allowed to be toivil in the avir.
- 13:18SPEAKER_00: It has to be Muhammad the karate, the water has to be touching the ground for the tvilah to be okay.
- 13:21SPEAKER_00: So it says the gimmar.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: Okay, so how do we know that hulin does not mean a tvila?
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: If you go to the mikvah for hulin, it doesn't need khabana.
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: How do we know such a thing?
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: That's not.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: We have a mission, a perishanaflu luse hamasamaim.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: Peris that fell into a stream of water.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: Upashad mish, yod of tmayas vinatl, and someone who his hands were tmayas, and his hands were tmayas of uh that tomasy dying that if you you just have to wash your hands do not or put them into do a tvila into Amasamaim, and it's gonna be uh tehras.
- 13:50SPEAKER_00: So he put his hands in to get the paris.
- 13:52SPEAKER_00: He dipped his hands into this Amasamaim to get the Paris.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: So that'll beodov tehohirois, Uperis inan m'chiyutan.
- 13:59SPEAKER_00: His hands are gonna be tohirois because uh to casher your hands, you don't need you don't need uh kavana for that.
- 14:05SPEAKER_00: Upe, that's the point.
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: Uperi's in a mhiutan.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: And the paris are not gonna be considered kiyutan.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: So we know the subject that in order for paris to be mikaboutumba, they first have to be huhshar the kabotumma.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: They have to be readied to be Makabotumbah.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: Stam uh, the way they are, even if a sharit touches it, it's not gonna become tame until they are Hukshar the Kabultum.
- 14:22SPEAKER_00: How do they become Hukshir the Kabultuma?
- 14:24SPEAKER_00: So the Pasik says Kiyutan Maim Alpine Zera Zerua, whatever the exact posik is.
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: But we learn from there, it's spelled kiite in kiyutan, we read it, and therefore it teaches us that it has to first go through water.
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: Not only does it have to first come in contact into water to become a kabotumba, but also you have to have a kavana and a nihusa that I want this water to be on the peris.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Now we're gonna see in a second that nihusa that you want that meaning if it just rains and you didn't care about it, you didn't want it, it's not gonna be good enough.
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: Like we're saying over here, it fell into the Amasana and it got wet.
- 14:56SPEAKER_00: But did you want it to?
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: So if you didn't want it, you don't care at all.
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: That's not a kavana, and therefore, even though it came in contact with water, it's not gonna make him it's not gonna make him a kabotuma.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see in a second that nichusa that you have to have that you want it to become wet, it could be the smallest nichusa baama.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Even if you don't dafka want the peris to become wet, but if you have a nichusa for this mind to be here for some reason, like you have uh you want the water there for a different reason, maybe to wash your hands.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: We're gonna see.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: If you wanted to wash your hands in the water, that's enough of a nichusa to make the the to make it that you wanted the water now, to make it that now the water is going to make uh these pairis hukture li cabaltumas.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: That's the point of here.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: So if you stom put your hands in and your hands were tame, you put your hands in, Vin Natlan, and you picked up the Paris, Yadav Taras, so you didn't have any cavana really to cash your hands, that wasn't your point.
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: So your hands are gonna become tar because you don't need cavana for that.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: U Paris in a mixhiutan, but the paris are not mikabaltum yet, because you didn't have any das, and you need das, you need the nichusa of the mind.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Then you have the paris operas mikiutan.
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: Then your hands are gonna become taur, that for sure.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: You had cavano even, even if you didn't have kavana, it's gonna be tahar.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: Uparis bhiyutan.
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: But the pears are now gonna be mikabu toma, kiyutan.
- 16:10SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: Because again, even though you might not have had cavano for these pears specifically uh to be in the water, and that's that wasn't your point.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: You had a nihusa.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: You had you did want the water for a different aspect at least, that you wanted the water to cash in your hands, to make your hands tah, and that would be a nihusa, at least for your hands, which would be good enough to be make these pairs now be mikabu tume because they came into contact with water that you had a little bit of a nichusa for.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: You had a little bit of uh you wanted this water, at least for your hands.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: What do we see over here?
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: We see over here that uh this is a mikhar.
- 16:41SPEAKER_00: We clearly see for tahara or for hulin, there's a case of hulin, right?
- 16:45SPEAKER_00: So are you are your hands tah, are your hands tame?
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: So in this case we see clearly you don't need kabbana.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: Even if you put it in without kabbana, your point wasn't to cast your hands.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: We said in every case that your hands are gonna be tahir.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: It says the cabana, Acevira Nachun.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Rava ask from Nachwan, Tavva Lehulin, the Hukzak Lihulin.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: Someone who went to the mikvah for hulin.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: Specifically for hulin, he didn't have in mind that I should be uh Ta'har now also for Maiser or something like that.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: He went to the mikvah only to uh some people we know even Hulin Betahara.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: So that's what he did.
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: He went to the mikvah the hulin.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: It says the hukzak niskavin, Bishast Twila the Ka.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: Huksaq is Niska'an.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: He had Kavona to go for Hulin, but not for Meister.
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: Also the Maiser.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: Is that Tvila does not work for Maiser.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: What does that sound like though?
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: Huxak in Loy Huxakloy.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: It sounds like even for Hulin it's only gonna work because he had Kavana for Hulin.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: Meaning, for sure it's not gonna work for Meister because he didn't enough kavana for maiser.
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: For Kojim, for Maiser, for for that type of Indian, we need always Kavana.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: But for Hulin, it sounds like the only reason it worked is because Hukzak.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: Hukzak in, Loih Huksakloi.
- 17:43SPEAKER_00: So it sounds like you need kavana only, it sounds like you need kavana even for Hulin.
- 17:47SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamara, Ah Kamar, this is how you have to read it.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: That Afal Pisha, Huksa Klehulin, even if you specifically had a cavana for Hulin, Aslameister.
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: You're still gonna be Asul the Meister because you need a specific Kavana for Meister.
- 17:57SPEAKER_00: But it's not telling you that you need a cavana for Hulin.
- 17:59SPEAKER_00: Maybe if you went even without any kavana, you're still gonna be good enough for Hulin.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamara, hey so I'll ask another cash.
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: If someone went to the mikvah, he didn't have any kavana.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: Kilulatava, it's as if he did not toivel at all.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: My love Kilulitava Klal.
- 18:14SPEAKER_00: Doesn't that sound like it's as if he didn't toivel at all, even for Hulin?
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: So we see again, you need a kavana for Hulin.
- 18:20SPEAKER_00: Says Gamarloi Ki ilulaitava the maister, Abba Tavala Hulin.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: It just means Kilulitava legabi maister.
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: Mayser, you need a cabana for.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: But for Hulin, that's for sure gonna work.
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: For Hulin, you do not need a Kavana.
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: So says, So Rabba kept asking this question to Ramanachman.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: Ram Nachman kept knocking it off.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: So Rabba thought, Husavar, the Hui Gamatkowe, Rabbah thought that Rab Nachman was just uh being toyhim with bad answers.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: But he didn't think this was the actual Allah.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: But no fuck Dokma Ashkah he went out and he found the Braissa de Tanya.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: He actually found him a first of Raisa to prove Rav Nachman's point, and they were actually good dicham, it wasn't stamped.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: That top of Lai Huxok, Mutrulhulin, the Asril Mayser, that someone who toivled and he didn't have any cavana, he's gonna be mutrulh in because for khulin you don't need a cavana for the tefila as it relates to mayser, asr lmeiser.
- 19:00SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be awesome for mayser because you do need a cabbana specifically for that.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: Omalya bay.
- 19:08SPEAKER_00: Let's say that maybe this should be a raya against Rabbichnan from here.
- 19:11SPEAKER_00: Who's Rabbi'ichan?
- 19:12SPEAKER_00: So again, if you remember the beginning of the daft, Rabbi Echanan said, Aflibasa l'itara, that if a woman goes to the mikfh, she was Nensa, she was a Nida, and she was Nensa, she goes to the mikfah.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: But like this, she didn't mean it.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: So Rubychan said, Aflibaysa laitara.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: She's not even gonna be good for Tashmish.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: It doesn't work.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: It doesn't work for anything, not for Truma, not for Tashmish.
- 19:30SPEAKER_00: So maybe this is a raya, this bright sub we just brought, right?
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: We just said that Asrulamaiser, it's gonna be good enough for Hulin, but not good enough for Mayser.
- 19:37SPEAKER_00: So it sounds like a ride against Rabbi'achan.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: Rabbi Achan said, even for Hulin it's not gonna be good.
- 19:40SPEAKER_00: Where did Rabbi Achan say that?
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: Because even for Tashmish, it's not gonna be okay, said Ribeakan.
- 19:44SPEAKER_00: Tashmish is what?
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: Is that it's considered Hulin in this as in the sub we just went through.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: So it says, from the fact that we see over here for Hulin, you don't need a kavana, and the Twila is gonna work, at least for Hulin.
- 19:56SPEAKER_00: So it seems to be a ride against Ribechlan that said that even for Tashmish, her tvilah is not gonna work since she didn't have a cavana.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: He's gonna say, like, Romanasiv, we have another sheet of a tana.
- 20:12SPEAKER_00: We have a brightsa.
- 20:15SPEAKER_00: So this is in the posik of uh as it relates to nigbodim by Matsaira.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: So the chubas.
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: It says the chubas shaynis.
- 20:23SPEAKER_00: Right in the tahara process, you have the clay they clean the clothing once, then again.
- 20:27SPEAKER_00: Uh after the shira, the point over here is that it says the chubas.
- 20:31SPEAKER_00: And it says it a second time in the posik.
- 20:32SPEAKER_00: So matamlana mershaynis, why do you have to tell me this is a second time?
- 20:34SPEAKER_00: Go through it, read the psukim.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: I know it's a second time.
- 20:36SPEAKER_00: We already went through the khubas once.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: So why does it have to say the chubas shaynis?
- 20:40SPEAKER_00: Just say the chubas and I already know you're talking about the second time.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: So matam al the meshaynis.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: So makesh thubash shin shneah lit thubas uh.
- 20:49SPEAKER_00: So I have a hekish between the first watching and the second.
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: To teach me what?
- 20:52SPEAKER_00: Mahad Chuz Rishina Ladas after khwas shneah, ladas.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: Just like the first one was ladas, you needed to have a kavorah by the first one, and that's alocha.
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: So to the second one you need the dash that's like that's kind of been and that's kind.
- 21:05SPEAKER_00: If we're learning a hekhish between the two, then just we got the just like by the first one, you need the das of the koin.
- 21:10SPEAKER_00: So to by the second one, and we know that's not true by the second one.
- 21:12SPEAKER_00: You don't need the das of the kain.
- 21:13SPEAKER_00: Tamil daimer vital.
- 21:14SPEAKER_00: By the second time it says vital, which teaches me call maqim, even without the das of the kain, the second time is gonna be okay.
- 21:20SPEAKER_00: The first time you need it, the second time you don't.
- 21:23SPEAKER_00: So what do we see over here?
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: We see that the second time you're not going to sorry, we see over here that at least we see that that every time you're gonna do you're gonna have the hubas, you do need das.
- 21:32SPEAKER_00: You might not need the das of the kain the second time, but you do need das, and this is by chulin, because it's a regular uh taras matzara.
- 21:39SPEAKER_00: The point isn't uh miser or turmoil or anything like that, and therefore we see clearly there is a tana that holds that even for hulin, you do need kavona uh for the taras.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: Says the kabara mascular of Simi Barashi, um or bekna hachi, but or did her beknan really say such a thing?
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: Did her bjunan really say that you need kavonna even for tvilas chulin?
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: Where did Rebechnan say that?
- 21:58SPEAKER_00: Again, Rebeknan said it by the woman.
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: If she went to the Bikvah Ba Ainas, she didn't mean it.
- 22:02SPEAKER_00: No Kavana, she's going to be even for Tashmish, she's not gonna be okay.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: Even for Tashmish, she's still gonna be considered Tamaio.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: So Rissi Rabihan holds you need Kavana even for Hulin.
- 22:11SPEAKER_00: Says Gamara, did Rabbichan really say such a thing?
- 22:13SPEAKER_00: Says Ribsim Rashi.
- 22:16SPEAKER_00: Ribekhan held that the aloch is always like a stamishnah.
- 22:19SPEAKER_00: And we learnt the stam Mishnah, then nafla sakin Mishhahta, if someone dropped a knife and it went ahead and did a good Shita, so Afa Pisha Shahta Gadar Kapsula.
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: Even though it went and sliced through properly to the perfect shit, it's still gonna be possible.
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: Because you need kavanah.
- 22:33SPEAKER_00: And we asked, that what?
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: That time of the nafla.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: Sorry, because you need kayak.
- 22:37SPEAKER_00: That's what we learned from there.
- 22:38SPEAKER_00: As the deal qu we made in the beginning of the Gemara, but time of the nafla, oh he pee la hook shayra, as long as he as long as he dropped it with a little bit of kayak, then it came.
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be kosher, even though he didn't have kavana.
- 22:52SPEAKER_00: So what do we see over here?
- 22:56SPEAKER_00: And we establish that it's Shita S R Nasan who holds you don't need cavana for shitita.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: So we see this is Shita's Kulin, and you don't need kavana.
- 23:01SPEAKER_00: It should be the same thing, right?
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: A tvila or tvila's kulin, a shita's kulin.
- 23:06SPEAKER_00: We see if you don't need cavana for one, you don't need cavana for the other.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: We're assuming it's across the board the same thing.
- 23:10SPEAKER_00: So says the gemara, how could Rabiakhana tell me that uh tvilah shalloy the kabbana is not gonna be good even for hulin?
- 23:17SPEAKER_00: In other words, for chulin, you need a tvila to be the khavana.
- 23:20SPEAKER_00: Even for Kulin, you're gonna need cavana by your tvvila.
- 23:22SPEAKER_00: I thought Rabihan said Allah Kistan Mishnah.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: And what do we see from Arstan Mishnah?
- 23:26SPEAKER_00: Arsdan Mishnah clearly was of the opinion that for shritah's chulin, you don't need kavanah at all.
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, Bishkitah filled Rbyanisan Byn Yoy Saf is gonna be Moidah.
- 23:35SPEAKER_00: That again we said Rabbichan holds like Rabbianasan Yasif, that he's the Tana that holds that uh that you need a kavana even for Hulin.
- 23:42SPEAKER_00: But says the Gemara, Rubiychnan's whole shita is based on Rbyanisan Banyasif that we brought.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: But I'll tell you that by shritah, which was the case of our Stan Mishnah, even that shita, even Rbyanisan Yasif is gonna be moidah.
- 23:53SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: That you need cabbana, that you don't need a kabbana, sorry.
- 23:56SPEAKER_00: Because midigali rahmana misasik bikim puzzle from the fact that the Tyruh told us that misasik bikim is gonna be puzzle, meaning if someone stam does a shachita by kutchim, for kachim, not khun.
- 24:05SPEAKER_00: He does it for kachim and he's masasik, he doesn't have any kabana baklaw, he does it, misasik.
- 24:10SPEAKER_00: That's even less than a shagigan shafus.
- 24:11SPEAKER_00: Misasik is nothing.
- 24:12SPEAKER_00: You didn't even mean to do anything, and you turn that it's it's nothing.
- 24:15SPEAKER_00: You don't even have to bring a karma, nothing.
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: So misasik, he didn't have any kabbana bakhlaal.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be possible.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: As relates to kh'chim, you definitely need kabana.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: So from the fact that we have that allah by kh'chim, what does that tell us?
- 24:25SPEAKER_00: That it sounds like that's a problem by khotchim.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: It sounds like that wouldn't be a problem by chulin.
- 24:31SPEAKER_00: Mesasiq bhulin, sounds like it would be okay.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: Mistasik doesn't have kabana, and therefore it sounds like by chulin you don't need cavana at all.
- 24:37SPEAKER_00: So that's what we're gonna tell you.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: That Ribyonitam and Yaisiv, who is the Shita that says you need cavana, by shaitha he's gonna be moita that you don't need cavana.
- 24:44SPEAKER_00: Shitah's chulin.
- 24:45SPEAKER_00: And that's why our our our Mishnah is not gonna be a problem.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: Aye, Rabiachan said that Allah is like a stam Mishnah, and our Stam Mishnah seems to say that by Shkita's chulin you don't need Kavana, very good.
- 24:52SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everyone's gonna be moided by sharkitah you don't need kavana, because Misasi bikem, that's where you uh have a problem.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: That's michlada by shitah, you don't need cavana at all.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: But Rabbana, what's the Rabana gonna say?
- 25:03SPEAKER_00: Nehi delay bayina kabana is vih.
- 25:05SPEAKER_00: Rabban are gonna say then I and the side then I'm asking that you don't need kavana uh for the sh to do shit itself, but la khati khabina, and at least for cutting it, you need episode a little bit of kabbanah, and that's why they're gonna argue even there.
- 25:17SPEAKER_00: If it says the Gemara, Amar Rava Beha Zachinu Ribnasan Rabban.
- 25:22SPEAKER_00: Over here again, we've said the whole machalic is between Rabnnasan and the Rabbana.
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: Rabnasan is the Sheeta of our Slam Mishnah that holds that you don't need kavana for shit.
- 25:28SPEAKER_00: Whereas the Rabbana and the Rabbana are gonna argue and say that you do.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: Again, that was the Rabbana we had in the beginning of the Masahta, that they argue on Sheetah's Ramnasan, that uh Kherasha the Vakatan uh are gonna be possible even if other people see them.
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: And we said we saw before, why do we need to say Rabnasan and both for Sricha?
- 25:44SPEAKER_00: But either way, the Rabbanan holds that you always are gonna need kavana, at least for a chaticha.
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: So it says the gemara, Amarabah, in this for this reason, what we just said, Zachinu Rubnasan Rabban Ramnasan won over the Rabbanan.
- 25:55SPEAKER_00: He he triumphed in his swara.
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 25:57SPEAKER_00: Because meek sevatahtah, because they're gonna tell you, according to what we just said, the Rabbanan are gonna say that you don't need you're right, you don't need a kavana for shita, but at least to cut, to to make a cut, you're gonna need to have a kavana for a cut.
- 26:07SPEAKER_00: So it says the gemara, meek siv khatahta, it doesn't say and you should cut, the chatahta, it doesn't say that.
- 26:12SPEAKER_00: It's a baktixiv.
- 26:13SPEAKER_00: It says and you should shacht.
- 26:14SPEAKER_00: And therefore, e be in a kavana l chatiha fillu l'zvika namid the boy.
- 26:17SPEAKER_00: So if you need a kavana at all, you shouldn't need a kavana lizvika for shkitah because that's what it says in the pasik.
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: Eloi may not kavana lisvika, the khatiha namada divine.
- 26:25SPEAKER_00: You don't need a kavana for the shiita for shachting, you shouldn't need any kavana.
- 26:28SPEAKER_00: Where did you come up with this idea?
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: It's in the very nan mashma that way in the pastik.
- 26:31SPEAKER_00: Where did you come up with this idea that you're gonna need a kavana for khatiha?
- 26:35SPEAKER_00: It doesn't say the chatahta, it says vizabahta, and therefore makes more sense.
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: It says the gumara, hey kidami nidashansa.
- 26:40SPEAKER_00: Just to end off, we referenced a case before of the Nidashinensa.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: Someone took her, we're gonna explain the case in a second, but either way, she was Taival, she was Tavelas against her will.
- 26:52SPEAKER_00: She didn't have any kavana for her.
- 26:53SPEAKER_00: What exactly is the case of it?
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: So, eat lema denensa khaverta viatbilah.
- 26:58SPEAKER_00: If the case is where her friend took her and threw her in the mikvah.
- 27:02SPEAKER_00: So kavana the khaverta kavana ma'yosahi.
- 27:04SPEAKER_00: That should actually work perfectly.
- 27:05SPEAKER_00: Her friend's kavana that meant to be matbal her should work fine.
- 27:09SPEAKER_00: And that kavana of her friend should be good enough.
- 27:11SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 27:13SPEAKER_00: By the way, even in that case, she'll be able to eat truma.
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: Why did it not?
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: We have a Mishnah.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: She went crazy.
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: So im Yeshwan, pikhois, misakhnais oysan, or echles betruma.
- 27:26SPEAKER_00: If they have pickhois, regular good woman with das that make sure they go to the mikvah properly, so it's gonna be good, it's gonna be good even for truma.
- 27:35SPEAKER_00: Her friend's kavana to make sure she does it right is gonna be good enough.
- 27:38SPEAKER_00: So that is that the case that we're talking about?
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: Probably not.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: So I'm a republic of Nasan, Rappa says to Ramnasan, Shinoffl and Agasha.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: You're right, that's not the case.
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: What is the case?
- 27:45SPEAKER_00: Where she stamped fell off a bridge.
- 27:47SPEAKER_00: She fell off a bridge, right into the water, no cavanna at all.
- 27:50SPEAKER_00: That's the case that we're talking about.
- 27:51SPEAKER_00: Well, the Rabbanan, and according to the Rabbanan, as Rashi says, that say oops.
- 27:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the Ramnasan Shanaflaman Agashar.
- 27:59SPEAKER_00: Sorry, sorry.
- 27:59SPEAKER_00: It's the difference between Rabnasan and the Rabbanan, because Ramnasan says that you don't need any kabbana biklal.
- 28:04SPEAKER_00: So what's the case gonna be of a needash shenansa bithallah?
- 28:08SPEAKER_00: So Rabnassan that holds you don't need any kabbana biklal.
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: He's gonna tell us tell you Stamshi fell off a bridge.
- 28:13SPEAKER_00: Well the Rabbanan that said you do need Apishabah a cavana.
- 28:16SPEAKER_00: What did Rabbanan say before?
- 28:17SPEAKER_00: Nahinami, you don't even you maybe you don't need for shit, but you do need for khatiha.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: So we see the Rabbanan hold you do need some type of kabbana.
- 28:24SPEAKER_00: So how are you gonna fit that into this case?
- 28:26SPEAKER_00: They're gonna tell you she are the hokar.
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: She went in by herself with her own cavana into the water, but she went to cool herself off.
- 28:32SPEAKER_00: She didn't go for tvila, and it ended up that she did a kash or a tvila there, but that wasn't her point.
- 28:36SPEAKER_00: But either way, we see she did have some type of cavana over here according to Rabban.
- 28:39SPEAKER_00: According to Ramnasani, he's just gonna tell you she fell off a bridge and there's absolutely no kabbana baklah, and that's gonna be the case.
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: Um my rabba a little bit more.
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: Rabba said, Shachat Para, just a little more on this Indian that if you shachhted a Paraduma, with Shachad Behima a Kherasima, and you shachted another behemah along with the paraaduma, the divra kopsula.
- 28:54SPEAKER_00: Everyone's gonna hold it's gonna be pasal.
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: Because the Zalakas relates to the Paraaduma that you if you do any other melocha during the avoida of the paraaduma, it's gonna passle the avoida that you're doing.
- 29:04SPEAKER_00: It's gonna passle the paraaduma.
- 29:05SPEAKER_00: You have to be doing only the avaida of the paraduma and nothing else.
- 29:07SPEAKER_00: So if you do a shita of the para and alongside you shacht another animal with it, it's gonna passle up the para because again you did another avoidah along with it.
- 29:15SPEAKER_00: Nishkutta Bhehemacharas.
- 29:16SPEAKER_00: So again, that was the case where you proactively schechted another animal.
- 29:20SPEAKER_00: What if it happened by happenstance?
- 29:21SPEAKER_00: Like Nishkut Behemakares.
- 29:23SPEAKER_00: You were shafting the para, that was your kavana.
- 29:25SPEAKER_00: And by the way, another animal was nearby and your knife hit it or whatever it was, nishktabehemacharis and it got shafted along with it.
- 29:30SPEAKER_00: Ima.
- 29:31SPEAKER_00: So leramnasan, para psula, behemakshera.
- 29:35SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's do the khajan.
- 29:36SPEAKER_00: According to Ram Nasan, the para is gonna be psulah.
- 29:38SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: Because according to Ram Nasan, you don't need kavana for shithah if you don't need kavana for shita, that second shritah that happened was a good shritah.
- 29:44SPEAKER_00: If it was a good shita, you did another malacha, which passes the para.
- 29:48SPEAKER_00: That's why the other one is gonna be kasher, but the para psula, behemakshera.
- 29:52SPEAKER_00: There are a bana, according to the rabbana, that say you do need a kavana.
- 29:55SPEAKER_00: So therefore the second shrita that you did is not gonna be a good shritah but that's not a good shaitha, you didn't do another malacha.
- 30:00SPEAKER_00: If you didn't do another malacha, the par is gonna be shared.
- 30:01SPEAKER_00: That's why the rabbana parks shah, behemothsula.
- 30:03SPEAKER_00: It says the gama, according to the hajman we just made, shethah, it's posthush because you could make the same sarah, come up with the same khajun like we just spoke out.
- 30:10SPEAKER_00: So it says the gimara it's not so postural.
- 30:11SPEAKER_00: Because Nishta Behema Hersla Mnassan is Shrichhala.
- 30:14SPEAKER_00: We the whole kiddish over here is Nishkita Behema Hersla Mnasan.
- 30:17SPEAKER_00: In the case where another animal got shachhted within her nasan.
- 30:20SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 30:20SPEAKER_00: Because I would think, I have a draw show.
- 30:27SPEAKER_00: This is where we learn it from.
- 30:28SPEAKER_00: It says you have to shach the para aduma where we where we learn that oysabala that only oysaw.
- 30:33SPEAKER_00: Only that, that's the only thing you could be doing right now.
- 30:35SPEAKER_00: So I would think maybe the darshan from there, that when the tyr tells you Ishachadais, Shach to Para Aduma, Oisabila, Veloy Oisava Khaverta, it means not to shach two para adumas.
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's where Nashan's gonna tell you.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: That only shachta para and not two paraadumas.
- 30:52SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be the problem.
- 30:53SPEAKER_00: Where's the Tyrant Mash bid where you shach two para adumas together?
- 30:56SPEAKER_00: Abu Behema the Khulin, but uh Sam random behema of chulin, maybe that's not gonna be a problem.
- 31:01SPEAKER_00: A Maloi, maybe that's not gonna be an issue.
- 31:03SPEAKER_00: Kamash Malan, that is still the issue, and that's why we said it.
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: One more halo ch on this note.
- 31:08SPEAKER_00: That chhotak, the last ima.
- 31:10SPEAKER_00: What if you were shafting the paraduma and you shafted?
- 31:12SPEAKER_00: And again, shachad, you did it with Kavana.
- 31:13SPEAKER_00: Your point was very good.
- 31:15SPEAKER_00: I might as well save some energy, I'm gonna shacht the baraduma, and along with it, a dlas.
- 31:18SPEAKER_00: So divra kobsu, everyone's gonna agree it's gonna be possible because again, you have a hesachas.
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees that there's gonna be a psaul if you do anything else at the time that you're shafting the paraduma.
- 31:25SPEAKER_00: So if you have a hesachas, you meant to call also a dalas, it's gonna be a problem.
- 31:30SPEAKER_00: If it happened by happenstance that the Dalas just uh got cut by itself, Divra Kok Shah, everyone's gonna agree that it's gonna be Kosha because in this case there's no Hesachas.
- 31:39SPEAKER_00: Nothing new about another Shita, the Shaqad Aisal, the Shachad Isa has a problem with another shit.
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: This is a Dalas.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: The only problem would be if you had meant to uh meant to do a certain malacha.
- 31:47SPEAKER_00: If you meant to do a certain malacha, that's a problem with Heshadas.
- 31:49SPEAKER_00: But if it was Nishita or uh Nehticha, Delashima, then you don't have a problem with Hessa Hadas.
- 31:55SPEAKER_00: And Divraha Kol Ksha, everyone in this case is all it's gonna be Kasha, good shabbi.