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Cinephile in 60: Emilia Perez gets too much Oscar love and finally settling our Anora debate. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for little something we call Cinophile.
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  Speaker 1: In sixty the Academy Award nominations committed and who would
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  Speaker 1: have expected again a trans musical involving a drug lord
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  Speaker 1: directed by a Frenchman getting thirteen nominations. But that's where
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  Speaker 1: we are right now in Hollywatch Amelia Perez thirteen nominations.
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  Speaker 1: This is a movie which listen, I got through it,
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  Speaker 1: and tallis it? I boast that we appreciate the personality
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  Speaker 1: and the audacity, but I wouldn't say it's a movie.
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  Speaker 1: I'd recommend you were not crazy. But Amelia Perez, you
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  Speaker 1: found it to be a grind.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I grinded through it. I mean, listen to
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  Speaker 3: people in my wife's industry, which is the Broadway community
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  Speaker 3: and the theater community, were like, this is trash.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, they crushed it. The wicked people.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, me and me and my wife
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  Speaker 3: are just like looking at each other and we're like,
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  Speaker 3: is this what is this? Is this good? I am like,
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  Speaker 3: are you like? She's like, I don't know, She's like
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  Speaker 3: I'm honestly like she's like the music my biggest gripe
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  Speaker 3: with it.
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  Speaker 2: If you're gonna do.
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  Speaker 3: A musical, okay, a musical movie, get some people that
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  Speaker 3: can sing.
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  Speaker 2: You're out of zois Saldana Selena Gomez.
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  Speaker 3: No, like like those two are, but like you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about like the like the the doctor that's.
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  Speaker 2: Like the past see the vagina plastic.
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  Speaker 3: Scene one is awful, and then the doctor that she
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  Speaker 3: goes and sees in Tel Aviv, like, come on, like,
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  Speaker 3: if you're gonna speak sing, speak sing, get some real
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  Speaker 3: people that can speak sing, like, come on, like you're
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  Speaker 3: it's like the smallest role possible, and it's just it's
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  Speaker 3: like it's like my dad off the street just coming
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  Speaker 3: on and giving him, Hey, go do this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like who's Jack, but he's a song whose grandfather?
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  Speaker 3: Was this in the movie that they brought in and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we were a little low on budget, let's just huck this.
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  Speaker 3: See how we all the money's in Zaldanna's hands, and
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  Speaker 3: and uh, who's Selena Gomez's hands? So I and I
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  Speaker 3: mean even her stuff was I mean okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So then it was a favorite to win an Academy Award.
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  Speaker 1: You're telling me not only you're not carefu for the film,
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  Speaker 1: you don't sounds you don't really care for her winning
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  Speaker 1: an Oscar.
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  Speaker 3: No Zoe's Aldona. I always like, I think she's what
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  Speaker 3: a career and I'm a huge, always all down a fan.
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  Speaker 3: So good I thought, I just think the structure of
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  Speaker 3: the movie was like, We're just like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I was most thrilled about when
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  Speaker 1: I sell the nominations Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay,
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  Speaker 1: Best Actress, Best Supporting Actress, Anora great showing for Sean.
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  Speaker 1: Baker has been a terrific independent filmmaker for years. Tangerine
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Project. I interviewed Willem Dafoe on Cinephile about
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  Speaker 1: that movie's previous film, Red Rocket, which Tao has seen,
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  Speaker 1: which is about a male adult film star.
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  Speaker 2: So think about Sean.
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  Speaker 1: Is he gonna make movies involving sex, the sex industry,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. You have said before you thought it was
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  Speaker 1: blue to WII, Jillian said the same thing. I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's quite simply one of the best films of the year.
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  Speaker 1: And now taw will sell the debate tale. What did
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  Speaker 1: you think of Anora?
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  Speaker 2: I really liked it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is and this is after I had a
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  Speaker 4: friend who kind of was a spoiler and told me
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  Speaker 4: the whole story before I had tried to see it. Anyways,
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  Speaker 4: shout out my buddy Brett Rapkin. But anyways, I liked
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  Speaker 4: it a lot, Like I get maybe every some people
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  Speaker 4: might take issue with you know that many boobies on screen.
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  Speaker 2: That's the work, this is the life she's she's a
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  Speaker 2: sex worker. What do you want? That's exactly Russian?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but Sean Baker, if you've seen his
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  Speaker 4: other films, he focuses on people in that world, these
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  Speaker 4: sort of marginalized people who are cast aside, and they
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  Speaker 4: become his underdog. I thought Mikey Madison was excellent, fabulous.
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  Speaker 4: And here's what I really liked about it is because,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, I kind of knew the story going in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching this thinking like, this is a brutal love story,
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  Speaker 4: Like I thought the the Russian Kid was like a
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  Speaker 4: completely irredeemable character.
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  Speaker 2: You're as unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Why is this girl falling no, the the the the
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  Speaker 4: kid that she married, Like, why is she falling in
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  Speaker 4: love with this guy, and then you realize after a while, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this isn't a love story at all. It's not a
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  Speaker 4: love story. It's it's just when it turns into this chaotic,
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  Speaker 4: this completely chaotic second act where things just she.
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  Speaker 2: Was looking for full care ring.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well yeah, well we knew exactly that. You're
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  Speaker 4: making my point right there. It's not a love story.
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  Speaker 4: It's instead this completely chaotic, you know, sequence of events
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  Speaker 4: involving my guy.
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  Speaker 2: And after we.
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  Speaker 4: Were texting about Karen Karragoulian.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's unelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Baker fans of the Armenian, He's in a lot of
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  Speaker 4: Sean Baker's films.
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  Speaker 2: He was great, he was awesome. As you know, he
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  Speaker 2: was leading the charge. He literally goes from a Baptist like,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on right now? He's losing his mind.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like the fixer who's just trying to find
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  Speaker 4: a way to fix this situation that may not be
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  Speaker 4: able to be fixed.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 3: Are you gonna let him finish?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's it. I'm i I'm in on a noura.
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  Speaker 4: Is it the best movie of the year? I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but I I really enjoyed it, and Mikey Madison was
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  Speaker 4: very impressive. I like tur She was on a show
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  Speaker 4: called Better Things where she played Pamela Adlon's daughter, completely
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  Speaker 4: different character, so she showed her range. She spoke with
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  Speaker 4: the Brooklynese dialect. She speaks Russian.
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  Speaker 3: She learned dic to get to she.
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  Speaker 4: Learned how to dance.
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  Speaker 2: If you can call.
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  Speaker 3: It, it's a hard job. There you go, It's hard.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to take your tits out.
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  Speaker 2: He's right, she had to go.
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  Speaker 1: Headquarters is an actual strip club. She went there to
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  Speaker 1: learn how to be a stripper.
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  Speaker 2: You think that's an easy job for every actress? Is
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  Speaker 2: still there?
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  Speaker 4: Do all this, do do all the slut shaming you want.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm.
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  Speaker 3: There is no Russian for there is there is no slutsching.
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  Speaker 3: It just said, I just go, can I can? I
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  Speaker 3: go now? I mean, I'm not surprised by your review
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  Speaker 3: with that mustache.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Creep wanting creep too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a prize marginalized communities.
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  Speaker 3: There's a reason why only Fans is as popular as
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  Speaker 3: it is and why movies like this win. It's nothing
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  Speaker 3: against the women. Hey, you can get your money. You
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  Speaker 3: get your goddamn money, because there's enough of you around
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  Speaker 3: there just to be like, this is great.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot. You know, it's exposed you all thought once.
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  Speaker 3: In your life you are at a strip club that
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  Speaker 3: the stripper loved you. That's why all once in your life,
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  Speaker 3: it's a love story.
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  Speaker 1: As far as worst nominations, because really that's what people
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  Speaker 1: want to get into. Mary and Jean Baptiste a snub
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  Speaker 1: for Hard Truths, which is one of the best films
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  Speaker 1: of the year. She won every major Quittics Prize New
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  Speaker 1: York LA film. Chris can't get an Oscar nomination, Nicole
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  Speaker 1: Kidman snub for Baby Girl.
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  Speaker 2: I have noise with that.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Demi More Mikey Madison showing it
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  Speaker 1: for Best Actress. But I see the Florida Jason de
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  Speaker 1: Burrs because he's passionate about this and he's right.
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  Speaker 2: How can done to be nominated for Best Picture?
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  Speaker 1: How can get nominated for slow or categories and get
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  Speaker 1: the director who's.
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  Speaker 2: One of the best directors working today?
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  Speaker 1: Any villain New French Canadian Also on these great films, Arrival,
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  Speaker 1: terrific movie, Prisoners excellently.
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  Speaker 2: My guy can't get Nomini for an Austria for Dune too.
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  Speaker 3: So the movie directed itself French prejudice. I thought, I
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  Speaker 3: thought Trudeau being out Canada was back and dannyville Nev
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  Speaker 3: not getting a bump for this is insane. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you can't get all those nominations and not who's the
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  Speaker 3: Who's the one putting it all together? Danny ville Nev
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  Speaker 3: done too. It was so good. That's one of your
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  Speaker 3: favorite movies of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Then that was true. I know, like I think.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I never said a or wasn't bad. I said
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  Speaker 3: it was good. I said it's it's imporant though, but anyway,
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  Speaker 3: it's important for the first act.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's just a mistake that you watched with your
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  Speaker 1: mother in law. I get Gillian's mom. The fact you
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  Speaker 1: watched it.
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  Speaker 3: With it that's hilarious.
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