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Patriots vs Seahawks - NFL DFS Showdown | Week 1 WED | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone? Tyler Timberline here, a.k.a. ToeTag and Tambo,
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  Speaker 1: and we are back for another NFL season, kicking it
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  Speaker 1: off this year on a Wednesday night. We got the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots at the Seahawks. It's a rematch of the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: We're back in the booth. We got Hoopster, Title, myself,
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  Speaker 1: ready to break it all down as usual. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk all things at the captain. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about roster construction, playing for that million dollars over
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  Speaker 1: man we're back in the booth it's the starting of
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing the new season christmas eve was last
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  Speaker 1: night christmas day is today we're back in action baby.
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  Speaker 3: about that here. And for the majority of this NFL season,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be this trio here. And we're excited, man.
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  Speaker 3: We're back, you know, joking before we go went on
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  Speaker 3: the show. It's like, man, NFL season ends and everyone's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit sad and say, oh, we got six
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  Speaker 3: months before football. And man, that six months breeze by
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  Speaker 3: super quick. And, you know, once the season starts going on,
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  Speaker 3: we always talk about it, like enjoy every week because
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  Speaker 3: the season goes by fast. But I guess it's the
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  Speaker 3: overarching point that time just goes by very fast. So
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  Speaker 3: you got to enjoy, enjoy everything. And we're going to
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  Speaker 3: enjoy this football season, going to enjoy this game. I
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  Speaker 3: love that we got the Wednesday start. We got the
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  Speaker 3: Thursday game tomorrow, like the NFL branching out to different days,
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  Speaker 3: I think makes a ton of sense. We'll have shows
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  Speaker 3: for all the big slates, the two game slates, the
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  Speaker 3: three game slate throughout the season, Thanksgiving, all that. Got
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  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl rematch, big money up top, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of preseason stuff in terms of best ball. You got
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  Speaker 3: the Survivor stuff, so much to talk about. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a fun season. Excited to be back with
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  Speaker 3: you guys. Excited to dive into this game.
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  Speaker 1: The energy, the hoop-timism. It's like optimism, but it's hoop.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I went to him first, because now I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring my man Title in. He's going to tell us
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  Speaker 1: how the season's about to end sooner than we know it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's true, it is, but we got to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: it now. And Title, I'm excited to be back here
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  Speaker 1: with you, man, talking some football. I know you've been
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  Speaker 1: grinding in the MMA streets, grinding in the best ball streets,
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  Speaker 1: grinding on pretty much everything. I was in Vegas with you,
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  Speaker 1: grinding the blackjack tables on arrival, grinding the craps tables,
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  Speaker 1: the pass line, teaching me and my wife some stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great time in Vegas with you, man.
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  Speaker 1: But what's going on, my friend? Happy to be back
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  Speaker 1: in the booth here with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy to be back.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, MLB, as fun as it is, and I
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  Speaker 4: will say, I mean, we still have, I mean, early
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  Speaker 4: slate locks in an hour. I'm in the streets. You
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  Speaker 4: can check out our content. College football is here, which
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  Speaker 4: comes right around this time. MMA in my backyard this week.
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of sports. But as we all know,
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  Speaker 4: NFL takes reign with all. I mean, 100 or 200K
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  Speaker 4: up top on FanDuel, which no one's even talking about
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  Speaker 4: because of Millie on DraftKings. But so much money to
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  Speaker 4: be made. Then we get to run it back tomorrow,
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  Speaker 4: which will be here forever. Saturday, college football, MMA, Sunday,
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  Speaker 4: of course, NFL, Monday, NFL. Yeah, this time of year,
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  Speaker 4: it just never stops. But that's what we love. We
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  Speaker 3: At the top.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's not us, hopefully it's you guys. But
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be here every Monday and Thursday at
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  Speaker 1: love for the Showdown Shippers. And there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the Wednesday one this week that you're on right now
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  Speaker 1: with us, Thursday. Coming up again tomorrow, 2 p.m. Eastern
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  Speaker 1: on Fridays. Title's going to be breaking down the cash
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  Speaker 1: game countdown. It's just a very fast, like nowadays a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people know what's going on, but knowing from
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  Speaker 1: someone like Title that plays in these streets heavily and
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  Speaker 1: just those little moves that you can make and just
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  Speaker 1: sort of a countdown of who are the top three
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  Speaker 1: in each position, that type of thing that he wants
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  Speaker 1: we will have a new show called contrarian constructions. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for this one. It's Bellman and ham, two
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  Speaker 1: of the most contrarian people I know, but very good
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  Speaker 1: at taking down large field tournaments. If you want to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to win a million dollars on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be the best way to go about
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  Speaker 1: it for some of these different constructions that you can do.
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  Speaker 3: Excited to see the names back in the chat or
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  Speaker 3: PM Eastern hour. So love seeing, love seeing our guys
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  Speaker 3: show back up for NFL season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. It's definitely fun. Nate's mentioned the pass
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  Speaker 1: line winners. That was insane. I love Nate's word title.
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  Speaker 1: He kept saying we rinsed them. By the way, Ham,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of contrarian constructions on Sunday, I never seen someone
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  Speaker 1: at a table game in my life feeling it as
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  Speaker 1: much as our guy Ham was on the crafts table.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's like Chevy Chase at the one with rock, paper, scissors,
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  Speaker 1: except he's playing the real game for real money. He
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  Speaker 1: rinsed them too, though. So congrats to Ham and excited
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  Speaker 1: to see him and Bellman win. on Sundays, breaking it
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  Speaker 1: all down. There's also another show. Speaking of our man Nades,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, the Sunday sweat down. I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: as people are coming down the stretch, tournaments that they're in,
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  Speaker 1: a day, but I'll give you an example. It's got
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff on here, but a slate review
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  Speaker 1: I was doing before the show. And I was, I
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  Speaker 1: remembered by the way, cause we're about to get to
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown here in a minute. I was like, didn't
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown let us down before on a showdown slate?
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  Speaker 1: And wasn't it the very first slate to start the season.
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  Speaker 1: And so I went back and I said, okay, let
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  Speaker 1: me look. All the data's in here from five plus years.
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  Speaker 1: But I went to September of last year and I
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  Speaker 1: scrolled back to the very first slate of the season.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, ah, yes, it was Dallas at Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: to start the year last year where Jahan Dotson outdid
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown at like $ 6, 000 less. And last year for
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  Speaker 1: people wondering with 171,000 entries, it was a $ 15 buy-in.
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  Speaker 1: It was a million dollars to first this lineup chopped
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  Speaker 1: it up. I think 14 or maybe 10 10 ways
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  Speaker 1: anyway um it was giovante williams at the captain had
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  Speaker 1: barkley hertz cd lamb aubrey johan dotson so uh aj
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  Speaker 1: brown failed everybody last year i remembered that and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see if he does that this week but if you.
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  Speaker 3: Guys show me the uh salary on that uh on
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  Speaker 3: that team the like total spend.
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  Speaker 1: Um i'm not the best at it yet to be
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  Speaker 1: able to find.
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  Speaker 3: That yeah well i'm just curious because i'm assuming like
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  Speaker 3: it was probably way way under the the salary cap
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  Speaker 3: number if i recall correctly yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually wondering just quickly because we're live but anyway
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  Speaker 1: like this is what's cool about i'm gonna use it
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  Speaker 1: for the news like i know we're waiting on say
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  Speaker 1: horton news or something like that it has the ability
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  Speaker 1: to update all that but i'm gonna try and see
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  Speaker 1: what day was it it was thursday the fourth.
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  Speaker 3: Well someone in chat will find it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah i'd have to find it and go back through
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  Speaker 1: but just noting it but yeah the other thing is
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  Speaker 1: like this i like the news section because if we're
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  Speaker 1: looking stuff up on the fly especially us doing this
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  Speaker 1: it's like this is the latest from 21 hours ago
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  Speaker 1: but it It talks about Horton as questionable for Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll be able to find this throughout all the night,
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  Speaker 1: but I got the stone. 2.0 here and title. I'll
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  Speaker 1: kick it to you first. Just, you know, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a, you know, back in action situation here with,
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  Speaker 1: with getting showdown to start things off as we usually do,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a Wednesday night. A lot of talk around
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  Speaker 1: these two teams. Obviously it wasn't the, the best Superbowl,
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  Speaker 1: if you will. I mean, I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: you like the bad bunny performance or whatever else might've been,
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  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the game itself
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  Speaker 1: was obviously very one-sided. what's your thoughts coming into a
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  Speaker 1: new season whether bringing that across you know showdown strategies
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  Speaker 1: different factors what's your thoughts coming into this first game
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  Speaker 1: of the season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah well first when you brought up that game it
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  Speaker 4: just clicked that's what Jalen Carter spit on Dak and
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  Speaker 4: got ejected right away so that was quite the way
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  Speaker 4: to start off the year and like the whole line
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  Speaker 4: live the live line switched like a point so that
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  Speaker 4: was kind of crazy but yeah I mean I was
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  Speaker 4: surprised to see that as only three point favorites were
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks when you are looking at Patriots coming into Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: What happened the last time we saw these two teams play?
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  Speaker 4: With that being said, obviously the Patriots, they got A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown.
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  Speaker 4: That's the biggest one on both teams for sure. For Seattle, though,
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  Speaker 4: no Kenneth Walker, so he leaves. Charbonnet is obviously starting
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  Speaker 4: on the pup. He's hurt for a while, so they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be rocking with the rookie in Price to
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  Speaker 4: start it off. So some more unknowns on the Seattle
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  Speaker 4: side right now, whereas the Patriots only got better, at
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  Speaker 4: least on the offensive side of the ball. Two good teams,
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  Speaker 4: two good defenses, two teams that we expect to be
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  Speaker 4: in the running toward the end of the year. Going
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  Speaker 4: to the 12th man in Seattle is not an easy
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  Speaker 4: place to play. So you can see a low total
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  Speaker 4: at 44 and a half, a little juice on the
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  Speaker 4: under there. Anytime you see that. And also I always
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  Speaker 4: think like, especially earlier in the year with teams not
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  Speaker 4: playing as much as they have in the past in
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  Speaker 4: the preseason, I do expect offenses to lag a little
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  Speaker 4: bit outside of the premier offenses. So that's something to
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  Speaker 4: note as well with the low total we have. When
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  Speaker 4: I see low totals, I think that is easier to
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  Speaker 4: leave money on the table to get more crazy like
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  Speaker 4: we saw with the Dotson. I mean, one throw, I
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  Speaker 4: think it was like a 60-yard catch Dotson had. And
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  Speaker 4: right there, he surpassed so many other guys. There's just
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  Speaker 4: more variance when there is more three and outs when
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  Speaker 4: the offenses don't get going as much. And there's more
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  Speaker 4: wiggle room to go down from like a Shahid to
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  Speaker 4: a Cooper Cup, a 1v1 or stuff like that. It's
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  Speaker 4: also just tying it all to the game we play,
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  Speaker 4: daily fantasy, salary ownership game.
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  Speaker 2: Huge prizes. It's the first game of the slate.
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  Speaker 4: So you're looking at over 100,000, like 132,000 entrants on DraftKings,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: about 80,000 on FanDuel.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: What is your goal today?
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: Are you playing three lineups in that thing and you're
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: fine chopping it 300 ways? You'll get thousands of thousands
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: of dollars. If that's your strategy, know that. Me personally,
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to go so crazy where I'm like
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: going to go for under 10 dupes. That's going to
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: be pretty tough with this big of a field.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: It is possible.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: But I also personally, I'm going to max it out.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to look for 100 plus dupes. So
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play a little more aggressive, but I'm
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: still going to play the best plays. The JSN's at captain,
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown's at captain, whatever it may be. So I
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: think you should have a game plan coming into the slate.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: What's your risk tolerance? What are you looking to get
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: out of this slate? If you're building for the $ 20, 132,000 people,
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: you should build that a lot different than that $ 100
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: single entry with 1100 people. So that's just the broad
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: slate for me. Think about the contest you're in. It's
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: more than just, all right, AJ Brown's going to go
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: off today. So we're playing him at captain. You still
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: got to get other stuff, right?
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Agreed. Yeah. Who, what do you have to add there, man?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Your grand scheme overview for this game here. We've got
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Patriots at the Seahawks Seahawks favored at home, a little
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: bit smaller. It looks like Jordan found it. I was
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: looking it up as well as we go here, but yeah, 49, 100,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: which is interesting, right? 900 bucks. It wasn't like I
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: left a bunch on that's a 10 way shop for,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: you know, all top 10 prizes, including the million. So
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people would be very happy
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: with 101, 24 000 whatever it is on night one
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: just to kick your season off early but go ahead
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: i'll let you jump.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: In yeah man so i mean just going back to
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: that point it's a perfect example where it's just like
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: one play can just make the difference and in showdown
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: just like in one little pivot i'm sure there's a
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: lot of uh wide receivers or receivers a lot of
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: guys on the slate price right around dotson he was
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: low owned and that's that was the key to the
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: slate so like i think a lot of people when
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: they think showdown. They think they got to do something
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: wild and crazy. And sometimes you do, don't get me wrong.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Like sometimes you do need the wild and crazy stuff,
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: the defense and the captain's going to hit from time
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: to time. Like sometimes you need that, but a lot
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: of times is you just need like one sort of
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: pivot on a lineup that, that makes sense. So that's
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: one thing to think about when, when building teams tonight
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: in terms of the overview, I agree with mostly what,
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: what title was saying. Like, you know, this is a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: game that screams to me, slow offensive start to the season. Seattle,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: it's always a tough place to go play at. It's,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: you know, super loud. These offenses are obviously going to
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: be a little lacking compared to where they'll be in
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: three or four weeks down the road. So I kind
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: of wouldn't be surprised if this was an uglier, grinded
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: out game. And, you know, that's not saying it's a guarantee.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, could it be 35-32?
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: But I am going to kind of lean towards an
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: uglier sort of game, which to me in terms of
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: roster construction means leaving a lot of salary on the table,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: like big, big chunks where, you know, you see maybe,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: you know, what's, you know, certain pivots that could pay off.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Like just one example would be, I don't know, like
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown down to AJ Barner or something, leaving 5,000
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: on the table. There's a lot of those situations that
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: we'll talk about, As we go through the show, I
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: am typically someone that shies away from playing defenses. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: think on tonight's slate, I want to be on the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: defenses a little bit more than normal, which if you
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: guys have been watching these shows, that's typically not the
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: case for me. So I'm going to be open to
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of different sort of roster constructions tonight because
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: of how I think this game could go. And I
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if it's like, I don't know, 17
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: to 14 or something like that. So it's kind of
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: my thoughts. But again, we'll go through the positions. We'll
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: go through the captains, start looking at ownership and what
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: some common builds are going to be and see what
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: we can end up with here at the end of
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tying both of those together. One thing I want
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: to throw in quick is just that, you know, if
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, everything Hoopa just said with
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: how the game could play out. And if you see
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it that way and you talk about what title said,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I think you put both together and say that you
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: could see like a really ridiculous captain or a bunch
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: of money left on the table. Because if you have
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a lower scoring game, everyone just assumes, well, then I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: better just put Ramondre in the captain or I better
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: just put JSN in the captain. But if they, you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: if it's 17, 14, and they're not really part of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the plan, it's five for 50 or five for 40.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: They could still show up in the flex, but I'm
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: just saying, or if it's 18 rushes for 60 yards
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and then doesn't get a TD or something like that
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: for Ramada, it's like your captain could be anybody who's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: part of those 17 points or part of those 14 points.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So when you look at it from that perspective, it's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: not only could it be a unique captain, but it
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: could leave money on the table. Somebody asked earlier, I've
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: only got my first run. This is definitely not final.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: but the lowest I see right now, and this I'll
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: add to this in a second, but I see like 43, eight,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I see 43, five, 44, seven. Like I see a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: lot of these and I'm, I'm playing for lower dupes
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: as most people know in these tournaments, but they're not
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: crazy lineups. It's typically involving things like if you have
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: defense instead of an AJ Brown or a quarter, a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: J Myers instead of, of, um, JSN or something like that.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like, it's just, it could be that type
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: of situation. And another thing people always think like a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: low scoring game means like Well, that must mean the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: JSN is even better than it could be because he
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't involved. They didn't get to the points and they
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: don't get anything there. Now, when you're playing a higher
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: dollar or smaller field or both, you got to remember
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: what you're playing up against, right? You're less teams. People
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: are maxing, like they're spending 49, five and above. So
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you don't have to be trying to figure out what
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: is the correct $ 46, 200 team just to leave money. but
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: in the large field tournament with a million bucks up
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: top and you wanting to get it like title always
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: talks with us, you know, same in line with like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: 10 dupes or less hard to always get that. But
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: if you're kind of playing for that angle, yes, then
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it's not, I'm not really looking at the portfolio beyond
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: looking at it. If it says this lineups, you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: solid and it's 45,600, probably just leaving it. And I've
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: got lineups and other places that can maneuver around that. So, um,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you could definitely do this. It just remember if you're
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: probably if you're thinking about this someone else probably is
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: too and so you're probably getting to that lineup with
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: ramondre and jsn well now flip the captain do whatever
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you want it's probably not going to be that different
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: um as it as it stands out there there is
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like you know shout out to our guy here tyler
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: says dobbs could go overlooked with everyone focused like i
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: think dobbs we'll get to all this later but dobbs Um,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, um, who else is there? Matt Collins. Um,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the other side, you flip it like some of the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: names are going to get talked about, but not all
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of them are going to be able to get clicked enough.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: That's oftentimes a better place to look. I know a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: lot of people look for this diamond in the rough
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of if, you know, I don't know who's up there.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: If what if so-and-so gets injured and so-and-so comes in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and you get these points from them, it's like, that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: would mean I'd get the whole million bucks. Like, yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you would need all that shit to happen. And then
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you would need the rest of your lineup to go correct,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: including the correct captain, including everything else to fall your way.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So does it take some luck? Yeah, but you can
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: play sharper or smarter and still build the lineups in
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a way where you're not needing that to necessarily happen.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: There's lots of overlooked plays there. Title, I'll go back
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to you. Let's start with the captain conversation. I mean,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: we're looking at cash games from your perspective. I think
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: we're probably looking at JSN up top. But one thing
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I will say is that the chat's already talking about
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, how he got shut down in
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And, you know, I'm going to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: underweight on him tonight. I like these other guys. What
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: do you sort of see the ownership shaking out like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a captain from a top three perspective? And then what
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: are you doing up at the captain yourself or how
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: are you thinking about it?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think JSN will come in number one
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: at captain. Now, is it going to be 20%? Is
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: it going to be 17%? I think it's somewhere around there.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: But he is the highest projected player on the slate
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: pretty much everywhere you go. And I mean, that's relatively
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: rare for a receiver. And then we talked about salary
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: being soft. So because salary is soft, it's easy to
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: fit him up top. And then I think the next
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: two highest will probably be Ramondre and Drake May. Talk
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: with Ramondre. I can see him getting steam in the
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: flex and captain. I would not be surprised if he
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: doesn't come off the field today. It's obviously a very
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: important game. No Travion Henderson week one. He should be back.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I assume probably next week, if not the week after.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: So they can run them out there as much as
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: they want. Good pass blocker can catch the ball out
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: of the backfield. And it's also the price tag. When
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: you're looking at JSN at 10, six remandries, eight, four
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Drake maze, 10 K. So it feels like AJ Brown, nine, six.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: So you do get a decent amount of savings there.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: for someone that's not going to leave the field that
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: can do everything. I think he's the one that does get,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: or I am worried that gets the most steam. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: I think we have it pretty good. Again, JSN, everyone
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: keeps talking about it. Like he did nothing in the Superbowl,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Christian Gonzalez, all this stuff.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I hope people are worried. I mean, I know I'm
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: going to.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Play JSN again. It's easy to play him. Just look
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: what he did last year. Very, very few games that
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: he absolutely done it. And that was one of them.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I hope the recency bias is, does carry over because
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: they're going to find ways to get J.S. in the ball,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: whether it's a quick wide receiver screen or whatever it
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: may be. He is going to touch it, I think,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: early and often. So, yeah, J.S.N., Stevenson, Drake May, I think,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: are the highest. And then I would go A.J.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Brown.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: Again, salaries weak on this or salaries loose on this slate.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: There are some value that we can get to. It's
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: easy to play all of them going in. You want
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: my captain thoughts?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: You can keep going. You're good.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going J.S.N. for sure.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Drake May would be my second favorite. I can maybe
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: argue that he'd be my favorite at ownership. And the
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: reason I love Drake May a lot, we talk about
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: it with Josh Allen. I'll call him a Dollar Tree version,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: but he can run. You don't need to pair him
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: with anybody. And he also has so many pairings that
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you can go to. Is it Matt Collins? Is it
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams? Is it Pop Douglas? Romeo Dobbs? Like there's
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: so many. And then you can just, all right, maybe
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: he runs in a touchdown or two touchdowns. So I
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: love the ability to play, even though he is getting ownership,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: playing Drake May in so many different ways. And I'm
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: definitely fine playing Seahawks defense against Drake May. We saw
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: how they pinned their ears back and what they did
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: to him in the Super Bowl. What if they do
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: get out 21-7 or whatever it may be and he
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: has to play catch up and drop back a million times?
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: That's good for the defense and Drake May. So I
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: love how many different ways I can play him. Whereas
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: when you play JSN, then usually you're going Darnold in
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: the flex and it gets a little more concentrated. Stevenson's
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: the one because I do think he gets the steam.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Did I plan on being lighter at the captain spot?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: We'll definitely play him in the flex. Again, the usage
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: he will have is great, but I think he gets
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: keyed in on a lot. And with the steam, we
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: play an ownership game. I'd rather get to other people
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that get different. Two of my favorites, I think, to
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: get different are the tight ends. I'm definitely team tight
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: ends today. Hunter Henry feels underpriced to me, hardly going
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: to leave the field, especially if there is pressure in
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Drake May's face, a good security blanket.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm in on him. Then go to the other side, A.J. Barner.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about Arroyo's stuff in the flex, but I
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: do think Seattle's going to probably play a good amount
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: of two tight ends this year, try and run the football,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: set up play action. Barnard's props are okay. I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: 25 and a half, is that great? No, but Cooper
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Cup 29 and a half, he 31 and a half.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Dobbs 35 and a half. Outside of A.J. Brown and JSN,
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: it's all a jumbled mess. I think he's going to
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: be on the field a ton. He's a good red
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: zone threat. We always talk about how inflated these touchdown
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: props are on DraftKings, but He's plus 250. That's more
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: likely to score than Dobbs, than Shahid, than Henry, than
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. If it's a low scoring game and you
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: get in the box, there we go, the first of
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: many for the year. If you get in the box
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: with one touchdown, you'll be sitting pretty good. So we're
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: showing very low ownership at captain, which I expect. Henry
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: and Barner are two guys that are the low owned
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: options that I'll be getting overweight with.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: And then you have a lot more salary to work
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: with as well.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: The barn burner man but uh you know you get
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: these i forgot about the youtube chat coming up with
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the hot takes man eli raradon three catches three yards
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: three tds i was gonna say a royal you guys
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: know i love remember there was a game last year
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: where donald hit horton a royal and somebody and then
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: i think horton got injured right after that but it
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: was like that thing was lining up nice and that's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: back to using these quarterbacks at captain i talked a
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: ton about last year and you just mentioned drake may
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: being in that position i mean you could do drake
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: may and spread them out with guys. You could do
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Drake May in a lower-scoring game, a little bit of
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: revenge that they get back to. Maybe they find the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: dub here, and he's got two rushing touchdowns, and it
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: could be 17-14 for them, and that's the case. So
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: he's back. I was just about to say, where's Joe Mama?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And he comes right in. Man, that's the port right there.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Joe Mama 69V. Joe Mama, you never hit me up yet.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Free month, Ship It Nation, buddy. You waited for it,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: didn't say anything, and hopped in at the exact moment
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: this guy busts out the first of the season. Hit
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: us up, info at shipitnation.com. Screenshot your Joe Mama 69V
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: right out of the comments from YouTube, and we will
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: get you set up. You got to get in the Discord, bro.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: We got to get you in there.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Lots of good thoughts here. I mean, I'm missing our guy. Yo,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: shout out to lay the house, Rob. He says row
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and Pat's D for all the money. Darn. I'm going
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to see ghosts again. Could be that AFC. So one
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: thing this tells me, and these are your great supporters.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys as always back with us here
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: again for another season says a lot of interest in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Ram captain. I think title, you called it the community of,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: sites and stuff that we keep our eye and our
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: eye on the ball around here. They're much higher on
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: JSN and the captain than we are in like, and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: we're talking much higher in these like small edges. It's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like three to 5%, but it's, it's about the steam
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and the moonwalk rest in peace to our big guy
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: in the sky, DJ and 75. We celebrated him in Vegas,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know, just shortly ago, but he would talk about
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the moon and the steamwalk. I think what's happening here
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: is as the steamwalking or the steamwalking, we're mixing them
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: together now, but as the moonwalking happens on JSN and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: some of the conversation, uh, And by the way, the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Sims love Ramondre. Why? Because he's coming in too low.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So that's steaming up to simming up, if you will.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: And so once that's happening, then people are like, well,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I better get 30% of them. And now if a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: lot more people are getting that percentage of him, now
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: his 14% He comes 16 to 18 to like whatever
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it ends up at. So I'd be very interested to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: see where that one finishes up today. But I thought
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you did a good job breaking down everything there. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: want to get Hoop's thoughts. Hoop, we got you talking
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: about defenses in week one, game one as well. That's
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: how everyone's talking about, you know, we know you love
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the double kicker, but defenses, are there any defenses in
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the captain? And then give us the rest of your
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: thoughts and add on to what title just said.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not going that route. I mean, I'm sure people
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: will because a lot of people are going to look
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: at this game and see that it could be low
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: score and they saw, you know, it, kind of was
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: slugging out in the the super bowl so yeah i
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: think people will play it i'm not playing it i'm
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: talking strictly flex i'm usually not even on defenses in
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: the flex so that's that's baby steps in that direction
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: for me in terms of captain i think um the
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: jsn stuff i think it is going to get steamed
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: up just because salary is just so so i mean
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: salary is just not a factor today if you just
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: go in there and build teams based on projections you're
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: just going to get a ton of of jsn because
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: you can play him in the captain and really not
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: sacrifice all that much i mean he's already pretty cheap
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: you put him in the captain you still have almost
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: seven thousand dollars per spot so like you can still
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: build um whatever you really whatever you want you put
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: him one cheap play with that then you're back up
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: to eight thousand per spot so jsn and the captain
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: is gonna probably get steamed up if we want to
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: use that term i wouldn't be surprised we're showing 18
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: right now, I wouldn't be surprised if it's closer to
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: like mid twenties. And, um, you know, depending on what
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: you think of Jason, I mean, it's not a guy
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: that I'm going to unclick because the ownership might get
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: up there. I mean, he could absolutely, um, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: nuke this late. I mean, he has, he he's one
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: of those players that doesn't even need to really find
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the end zone to be the guy you need. He
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: could rack up eight catches for 140 or something like that,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: nine for 150. So definitely in play, but I do
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: think the ownership comes up. The other guy where I
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: think the ownership definitely comes up on is Ramondre Stevenson.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm a little more worried about him, I'd say,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: than like a lot of other captains on the slate,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: because the price is clearly too cheap. He's priced as
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: if Henderson were to be in. I mean, Henderson was
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: a part of this slate, obviously. Henderson's price was 7,600.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Ramondre's 84. So now you get Ramondre, who, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: title thinks could potentially be on the field the entire game,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: which I think I'm a little... We'll talk about some
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: of the backup guys when we get there and talk
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: about flex. But I do think he will come off
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: at least a little bit. But man, I'm a little
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: worried about the ownership in the captain. I think it
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: will come up. I think where we have it at 16,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: maybe it won't come up too much more, maybe 20
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: or something. But he's another guy, 8,400. You put him
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: in that captain spot, you're at like $ 7, 500 per spot.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: You can do whatever the hell you want with Ramondre
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: up top, and people are going to see that Henderson's out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: People are going to see that he does get a
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: lot of action in the passing game. So good with
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: those two. little more worried about remandre i think um
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: but like for me drake may i think it's a
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: phenomenal play because i think with js in my eyes
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: right this is my opinion with jsn maybe coming up
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: a little bit remandre may be coming up a little
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: bit i think it will take away from some of
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: these other guys and drake may i think it's a
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: really good point that title brought up like a mini
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: josh allen where he will take off like he'll he'll
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: he can get 60 yards on the ground and if
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: he does happen to to find the end zone on
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: his feet then you're essentially you're free rolling the rest
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: of the game with Drake May. And is he the
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: captain that you need? So I like him a lot.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: I do really like A.J. Brown. I guess part of
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the reason I'm not in love with Ramondre is I
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: think that the Patriots struggled to run here a little bit.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: And again, Ramondre can get there through the passing game.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: So I am more interested in the Patriots passing game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Drake May, A.J. Brown, I would include Dobbs in there.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I definitely like the Hunter Henry call. I like these
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: tight ends up top. I mean, these guys are looking
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: like got Hunter Henry at two, two and a half percent.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Like what can Hunter Henry do in this game? I
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: think Hunter Henry could go five for 50 with two touchdowns. Right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And that's boom, boom, 10 quick math with that 22 points. Right. Like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll take that for sure. On the other side,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I definitely Barner. I mean, you look at the, a
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: receiver room for, for Seattle. You got JSN, you got
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Cooper cup, you got Shahid. I mean, cup and Shahid,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: they not to me, they're not what they, they once were.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: So like Barner could be the next guy in line
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: to kind of get targets. And I agree also with
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: title that, you know, they're probably going to play a
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: lot of two tight ends. So he's going to be
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: on the field. So I think those tight ends are,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: are really interesting plays. Uh, Price on Seattle, interested in him. Again,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: with a lot of people, I think, going to Ramondre,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I think Price could come down in ownership. We're only
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: showing 6.5%. Like 6.5%. He's the main guy, obviously, there
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: with Charbonnet out. I think he's a really good play.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: So just kind of ranking my guys when you factor
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: in ownership, it's going to be like A.J. Brown, Drake
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: May are probably my two favorites. And then I would
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: start to look at some of those tight ends because
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: they're going to be unowned. I am going to include JSN, obviously.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He's going to be a big part of what I do.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: But again, when you factor in the ownership, it's going
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: to be a little bit different. Ramondre in play, not
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: as exciting for me just because I think the ownership
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: comes up. But, you know, not much interest in like
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Shahid or Cooper Cup or the kickers or the defense.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: There's not a ton in Sam Darnold either. Like, his ownership,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: we're showing eight. So he will be kind of low on.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: So if you do like him, I mean, if you
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: play 15% of Sam Darnold captain, you're going to be
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: double the field. So those are, you know, kind of
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: my thoughts at the captain position.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, took a long time for either of you to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: mention him, and Hoop just got to him, and I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: think it was a good call. But Bob Barker tonight, baby,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the price is right. I think that's one of the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: better captain plays as a whole. I think somebody mentioned
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it earlier. If you look at the Super Bowl, it
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: was all Kenneth Walker for Seattle. I don't think he
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: got in the box, fell in the box, I should say,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: but it was something like 135 yards on the ground,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a couple of grabs.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Six and a half percent. If that number holds, that
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: just has to be a good play when you're factoring
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: in ownership.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's important too. And people do factor, again,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they're not factoring that into your point, but I also
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: think it's factoring in the build. If we're talking about
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: JSN up top, who's leveraged to him? How about the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: running back jamming it in? Well, that sounds good. If
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, oh, but Ramondre is on the other side.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: He's the must-have guy. What if the game script changes
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: and it's the other side? So it's like, almost triple
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: leveraging from separation standpoints because you're getting lower captain ownership,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: an actual game script that could favor him and would
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: flip against two of the guys that are going to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: be the most popular up top. So I think that's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: what makes it interesting. Now, if you also think the game...
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: could be lower scoring, or even if it's higher, it
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: could go that way. Well, then it kind of makes
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: some of my other captain decisions. Like you guys had
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: already talked about Drake may interesting, can spread it out.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Lots of different options. AJ Brown, Dobbs, Henry, if they're
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: behind and got to throw, and now I can get
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: price in the flex. Maybe the game plays a little
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: lighter there. So I think there's some situations like that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And then just from a build perspective too, because these
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: guys added a bunch of good comments there. I just
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that was in there. The Five ones,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: both sides, don't see a lot. Like almost every build
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: we talk about are go build your stuff. Go look
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: at it. If you built 10 lineups already, go look
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: how many are five ones. And some of you say,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'll go with some.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying overall, it doesn't look like many people
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: are going that route on either side. Almost every build
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: ends up a 3-3 or a 4-2 in some way, shape,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: or form, regardless of how you see the game playing,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: just the way the pricing sets up. So I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that's somewhat interesting. And I also think the two fours
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: are very interesting tonight. I talked about earlier, what if
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you've got... Um, Ramond Dre and the Patriots D and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: then four Seahawks in the flex. Cause it's where it's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: him on the ground and then them having to come back.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: What if you've got Drake may and one other player
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and he does most of the work himself and legs
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: on the ground, lower scoring game. And it's the other
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: side coming back. You can, you can do it a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: bunch of different ways, but I think the two, four, um,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: is interesting i will note somebody in the chat talked
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: about the stone 2.0 loving it and how easy it
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: is to use and all that just so you guys
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: see like it's it's all fully functional now right you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: can swap from captain to flex we're going through captains
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: right now the ownership changes on the fly it's the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: simplest tool to use if you got a computer in
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: front of you and be able just to hand build
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: something out and see the total ownership Is there the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: breakdown per person? You can lock a captain, see what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the optimal that with that captain looks like. You can
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: build a bunch of different, like you can do whatever
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you want with this thing. Pretty much. It'll tell you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: all the money you've got left over. It'll tell you,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, anything you want to know as you're building out.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And then you can just go through position by position.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: This is not the final stone. So when it updates,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to see even more, but right now
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it's just showing you the, you know, how you can
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: utilize this to your advantage. All right, we talked a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: little bit about quarterbacks already title, but anything just on
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the Darnold or Drake May front that you want to
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: add from a flex standpoint or just how you're thinking
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: about using them?
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't talk about Darnold enough, but I think
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Darnold's an elite play in 9,400 because it's not only JSN,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: of course, like he's the main one, but Shahid's going
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: to have a much bigger role this year.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: We saw what Cooper Cup did in the Super Bowl.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: There's Barner, there's Arroyo, Price, Holani, we'll get there at
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: running back, but he's going to be more of a
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: pass catcher that you can pair them with. So when
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: you are playing Darnold, I think more than likely, or
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Darnold at captain, more than likely you probably want two
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: pass catchers with them.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: But Torrey Horton news is actually pretty important as well.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, everything's important for a one game slate, but
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be building before and act as
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: with Torrey Horton stuff. I'm almost kind of hoping he's
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: out because I feel better about Cooper Cup and Shahid
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: and almost Arroyo as well for even more two tight
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: end set. But I talked a lot about Drake May.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I didn't with Darnold. I'm definitely in though at sub
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: 10% Darnold that captain.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Anything you want to add with those two hoop, or
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: if not, you can take us into running back from there.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: But I think, you know, quarterback, you know, people are
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: pairing them up. We talked about that. It's going to
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: matter more in my opinion, at least when we get
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: there of like what we're doing with the alternatives. Like
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: if you're not playing those guys, or if you are
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: playing them and what you want to put them with,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that's going to come up at running back wide receiver
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and tight end, but anything on the quarterback position as
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a whole that you want to add or at the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: flex spot as well.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: The only thing I was going to add with Drake may,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, another reason that I do really like him
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: up top is a lot of different ways to pair
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: him up. You know, you can don't even necessarily need
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: to pair him with the pass catcher. He can score
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: one or two touchdowns on the ground. You have a
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: tight end to play him with. You have a running back.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: You can play him with, you know, he could definitely throw,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: you know, remand or he could end up with six
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: or seven receptions that's in the cards and you have
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: wide receivers and some cheap wide receivers to pair them with.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: So definitely the, as we're talking through it, like him
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: even more up top. And again, I think it's not
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: going to be low on, but I think he has
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: a chance to come down a little bit because I
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: do see JSN and Ramondre kind of coming up. Just
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: to talk about those running backs a little bit more,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: you know, in the flex Ramondre at 84, I mean, very,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: I'd say high floor play today with the reception upside
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: has a solid projection, has a very fair price. Ownership, Obviously,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: he's going to be massive. He's underpriced for the role
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: that he will have. But, you know, just when I
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: talked about the captain, I kind of mentioned it quickly,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: but I do think Price is a really, really good
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: play today. And I know Helani is going to get
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: some work and people are excited to play him. I
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: think he's fine in the flex as well. But, man,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I think Price, I mean, OK. it's tough to take
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: what people say in the preseason because everybody in the
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: preseason looks phenomenal best shape of their life best camp
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: of their life has looked phenomenal at practice like don't
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: like I've seen a couple comments in the chat I
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: just let them go but like 99% of players in
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the NFL are are going to have great reviews from
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: training camp, from practice, from practice sessions, from inter-team scrimmages,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: from scrimmages facing other teams. They all look phenomenal. It's
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: never a bad report that somebody– there's never a report
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: that says they look bad at training camp. Everyone's in
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the best shape of their lives, blah, blah, blah. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: get all that stuff. But Price, a lot of people
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: liked him before the training camp stuff and all that started.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So I think he's a really good play. uh, in
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: the flex. I like him in the captain as well.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Kalani at 4,200. You know, the nice thing about him
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: is he's one of those guys to me that can,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: has the potential to get it all in one drive,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: what you need out of him. Like if it's the, uh,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: going into the half and he gets that, that last
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: drive in 4,200, he can pick up three to four catches,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: like in one drive, you could get 30, 40 yards.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And like, that's all you might need from him in
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: the flex. He's kind of like a, uh, who's a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: guy like P Ryan. We always say that about P Ryan.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Like if he's in there at the end of a half,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: like he has the chance to get everything he needs
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: in that little two minute drill, the same thing with Alani.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: So I think he's a great play. The tough part
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: is with these Patriots guys, because it's dudes like I,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to pretend like I know a lot
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: about Corey Kenner or, or, or this Haskins guy. But
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: to me, like, I just can't imagine on game one
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of the regular season, that remandre gets like 30 touches
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: here so i i think somebody's gonna have to get
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: some work um you know the names aren't comfortable but
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: like you know cory kenner at 2400 like i just
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: need to play some of him like stevenson has had
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: fumble issues in the past someone mentioned it in the
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: chat um you know if he fumbles once are they
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: gonna yank him hell no like they're still gonna roll
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: with them they don't have an option but what if
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: he fumbles twice like and they have to give somebody
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: else an opportunity so um You know, I do want
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: to include these guys in my player pool. Definitely want
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: to cap it a little bit. You don't want like
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: 20 percent of these Patriots backups. But I do think
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: there's a chance for one of them to get some
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: work here. So, yeah, I mean, you got options here.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: You got Stevenson, you got Price, you got Helani and
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: then the Patriots backups. But I'm definitely when you factor
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: in everything again, Price would be my favorite running back tonight.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I really like him. Like I said, even up in
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: the captain, there's just a ton of different leverage points
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: that you're going to get with him. And in a
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: game script that could end up making sense in that
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: favor as well. Tyler, I want to go to you.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: The big thing here is with Holani. You talked to
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: him earlier. The chat was talking about him being a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: pass catcher. Maybe it's price at the goal line, which
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: one wins out. How does that end up working out?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But one thing we can definitely tell is that Holani
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: is getting ownership. So yeah, it's not going to be
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: kinder as much as you'll see as Haskins as any,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they're going to, you know, maybe show up in, even
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: when people get a whole portfolio of lineups, they might get,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you know, one to 3% of those guys typically, unless
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: they want to boost something. What is your thoughts on Holani?
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And then if any type of action on using those
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: guys or how to fill it in with them, if
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you were going that route.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely like a lot and he's going to
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: get ownership, but I mean, he has real props is
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: one and a half receive a reception prop minus one
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: 58 on the over. He's the third down back, especially
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: if you do think this game plays kind of toward
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: the under and Seattle gets in more third and long stuff.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: You're going to see a bunch of him prices. The
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: rookie will handle more of the early down work. Uh,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: and then they have Emmanuel Wilson, maybe like a third
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: and one you'll see Wilson trot in or something like that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: But it seems very clear. Hold on.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: He's going to play, uh, almost all third downs in
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: high-impact situations in terms of pass catching.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And what a price just looks terrible to starter. Can't
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: get anything going.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Maybe Helani does mix in on his second down here
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: or there in base work, two-minute drill-like hoops talking. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: think there's a lot of ways for Helani to get there. Yes,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: he is showing ownership, but when you play him, maybe
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: that's when you're playing Barner at captain, or maybe that's
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: where you're leaving 3K to drop down from Romeo Dobbs.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I didn't do the math, but whatever it is. Helani's
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: going to be on the field. I'm definitely going to
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: play him. He's also plus 205 to score, which is fifth.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: On this slate. And again, those numbers are terrible.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying go out and bet touchdown props, but
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: it does show that he does have outs. We think
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: it's going to be Price at the goal line and stuff,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: but what if it's second and four and Price just,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: or first and goal at the four yard line and
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Price just broke off a big run and needs a break.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: There comes Holani for a touchdown. So I think he
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: has so many outs to get there. Yeah. I mean,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I think you guys know me and Hoop definitely disagree
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: on how the Patriot backfield is going to go. I
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: do not see Kiner playing much. I don't see Haskins
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: really playing at all. Kiner, he has a 10 rushing prop,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: juice on the under. I think Stevenson, again, it's game one.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: It's a huge game. I mean, it's three point spreads,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, like Vrabel is going to want to win
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: this and having Travion being able to come back after
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: injury and not playing today, I think gives them a
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: lot more outs. They have a long week, of course,
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: playing on Wednesday. I just don't see Vrabel trusting Kiner, Haskins.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Any of that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: So I'm hardly going to play any. Kiner will be
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: the one I mix in a little bit. He's 2% owned.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: So if I am wrong, you have 2% or 3%
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: in your portfolio and you get lucky there. And 150 max,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: that's the way to go. But if I was playing
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: like 10 teams or less, I think it's Stevenson and
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: I don't really see him coming off the field.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Got to bring up this comment right quick. Tambo hoop
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: title all look phenomenal after this offseason. Boys, got to
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: love the early nice complimentary stuff. So we got to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: bring that one up. Shout out to our guy, Lay
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the Hell. Shout out to BJ, checking in from the office.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Hope everything's well with you as well, my man. Appreciate
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you and definitely enjoy having you here just to join
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: us to start the season. And then our guy, Dollar Bill,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: running the CFB streets with Hamhawk and I'm Robbins and
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Smarty every day. Seems like every day now says, Haskins
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a fourth rounder in 2022 on his third team. Exactly
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the guy I expect New England to give 15 to
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: 20 snaps to. Yeah, we've seen it go that way sometimes. But, yeah,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't he on the Chargers when we were following him
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: more and expecting him to get used over there and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: then it just didn't pan out? So it's like you said.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Keeps getting moved around. I will comment on this. This
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: is what I said earlier. So I'll tell you two
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: sides to this story. Cause to me, it's like when
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: people say this, they're probably going to do something very bad,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: but you could still do it. What I said earlier
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: is like an example too. If it's a lower scoring game,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: you're right. Holani could get two goal line touchdowns, 17, 14, 17,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: seven Seattle wins. It's like, Oh damn, you kind of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: did need him. But people hear that. And that's where
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I said a weird captain could happen, et cetera, et cetera.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: But again, Go look at your Helani captain lineup right
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: now and fill it out. And when it's got JSN
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and Drake May or Andre Stevenson in the same, if
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I got Helani captain, he probably comes with $ 5, 000 on
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the table. So just keep that in mind. It's going
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to be very hard to hand build the magic version
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: of that where it's valuable because if most people have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: something like that or the cheaper captains up top, they
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: just max it out with everything else. And I don't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: think people think about that enough.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: One thing to add on to that point, too, is
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: you really need to factor in salary on the slate
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and how salary is going to factor in. And this
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: is just a very soft pricing, which is what you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: going to see the first game of the season. You're
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: going to see it week one of NFL. So it's
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: very likely that the captain you need tonight is just
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: the highest scoring guy on the slate, just because like
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: factor salary is really not going to be a factor.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: If it's a tighter priced Slate where, I don't know,
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: you have the ramps. You need Puka and Devante, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: they're playing San Fran, and you need Brock Purdy and
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. You need all those guys because they're all
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: between 25 and 20 fantasy points, so a cheaper captain
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: would make all that work. On today's slate, it's probably
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: just the highest scoring guy on the slate is going
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: to be the optimal captain, most likely.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Agreed.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent point. And you worded it perfectly. Because again,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I just don't think enough people think about that when
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: they're breaking it down. It seems second nature. I looked
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: at my first run, 75% of my captains are across JSN,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Drake May, Price, and Ramondre. And that's just right out
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: of the gate. Yes, I have a portfolio that can
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: allow for some of the other stuff to fit in
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and they're built accordingly. But it's like Hoop said, when
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you get the softer pricing, you're probably just going to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: need the highest scoring guy up top. Typically anything can
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: happen in slate. We always talk about shout out to
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: my guy, Kevin Garnett. We know anything is possible, but
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: just noting it, it's the setup of the slate at hand.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: And that's why you got to think about that when
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: you're going in. All right, title, anything else you want
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to add there? If not, I'll let you take us
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: into the wide receiver position. It fits the title tonight.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It's wide, for sure. There's a lot of options here
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: versus the usual. We know about JSM. We know about Brown.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: But it does feel like everyone's just talking about the
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: other guys, and I don't know how much they'll actually
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: click them. Surprisingly enough, I do think... The Shahid steam
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: is possible in some way, shape or form. I've seen
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: enough people talking about him on X today. I think
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: people are seeing defense pop and they're thinking about that
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: double dip early on and all these different factors. But
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see like Dobbs, Kopp, Hollins, Doug,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: like some of these other guys just might. We got
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to wait on Horton news, but I don't see a
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys actually getting clicked as much as
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: people see them on the sheet and say, yeah, well,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: they're there too. I'd like to play a little bit
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: of them, but I don't see them clicking them enough.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably right.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: The Helanis, the Worlds, Ramondre, the quarterbacks, JSN, there's only
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: so many spots you can go to. So I'll start
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: on the Seattle side because I think it's really... easy
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: jsn shaheed cooper cup i don't really think it matters
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: too much i mean it matters because it's one game
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: but even if tory horton is active i don't think
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: you see in many snaps again i think uh they're
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: gonna run a lot of barner and arroyo and a
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: lot of 12 personnel and when that's the case you
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: take a receiver off the field cooper cups clearly in
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: the number three So he's not always going to be
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: on the field. He had a great Superbowl, a solid
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: slot guy, but Shahid's the one that's just staring me
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: in the face. All the reports, the preseason, all that stuff.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: He's going to have a much greater role this year
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: in the offense. He's going to play a lot of
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: the 12 personnel opposite side of JSN. We know he
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: has burners one play. He can take it to the house.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: So he's someone I have interest in for sure. Captain
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: and the flex, and we're only showing about 20%. So
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping he doesn't get steam. I guess I wouldn't
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: be too surprised if he did though. Cooper Cup, I'm
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: fine with him. Again, he's going to be on the
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: field a decent amount, but I am worried that they're
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: just going to run a lot of Arroyo, a lot
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: of Barner, kind of tipping my hand. I'm going to
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: play a bunch of tight ends, and that is at
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: the expense of Cooper Cup. I think Cooper Cup makes
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: more sense when you think the Patriots win or the
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: Seahawks trail. If they can't establish the run early, then
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: they're going to go away from probably the tight ends
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: more and get a skill position out there, which is
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup when they are forced into more obvious throwing downs.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: So that's how I build– especially hand building. It's hard
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: when you're playing 150 to narrow that down and make
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: rules when you're playing cup, how the teams look. But
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: if you're doing higher dollar hand building, I do think
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: that makes sense in Patriot leading games. On the other
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: side for the Patriots, it's definitely harder. It's clearly AJ
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Brown's number one. Romeo Dobbs is number two. Both Patriots,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: And not overpriced, but I mean, they do look relatively expensive.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: When you look at A.J.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Brown versus the quarterbacks versus JSN, I do think Brown's
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: going to be fourth on the totem pole in terms
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: of ownership. Dobbs, a solid price tag. It's a tough matchup, though.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, both these secondaries are pretty good. But after
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: those two, is it going to be, well, I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: it's Pop Douglas. I feel good about that in the slot.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: We're showing 9%. Like, give me Pop Douglas. I always
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: talk about him. He rarely does it. Too much because
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: he doesn't get as many snaps. They rotate more. But
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: he's good at football, and he can. He's a deep
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: option for Drake May.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: One play.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: He could be the Jahan Dotson and just absolutely get
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: there in one. So I'm going to be overweight at
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: 9% pot Douglas for sure. After that, is it Kyle Williams?
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Is it Matt Collins? The props look like they think
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: it's going to be Matt Collins more. Neither are really
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: getting ownership.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams, again, preseason. When you're playing in the preseason
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: with backups, you're already not in the best. but they
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: traded away Booty. So I think that means they do
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: like Collins and Williams a little bit. They're not going
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: to be on the field much. Mack's a big body.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Kyle Williams is a solid receiver. When you're playing JSN,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, and you're just going chalk, chalk, chalk, that's
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: when I'll be playing these two down there. I'm not
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: trying to think that they're going to go out. More
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: than likely, they get zero. I think that's the case.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I'm actually going to take a little different approach. I
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: will prefer Kyle over Mack.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Slightly.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I just think when he's out there, even if it's
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: six naps, he has more likelihood to get the ball
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: in some way and do something than Matt Collins. Don't
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: feel strongly about that. Again, props disagree. Those two are
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: just clearly the 4% and 1%. Like you're playing them
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: to completely differentiate. You don't need to leave 2000 on
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: the table and you play them. You can pretty much
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: zero out salary and that's your way to get different.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: But Shahid, Pop Douglas are the two at ownership that
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: I'm really liking.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, early depth charts too are tricky, right? You see
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of crazy stuff, you know, when the season
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: first kicks off. Sean does bring up a good point though.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Four for 78 in the Super Bowl with a touchdown
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and Jordan stole my line. I was literally just about
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: to say, who else is going to walk in in
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: bare feet and just go on and dummy a team
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: for four for 78 and touchdown? Like this guy just,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: what are the odds we get some video like that?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Absolutely like minus 200, minus like this guy's coming in
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: doing something weird, like whatever it is he does. But
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: what's funny is these are the guys like what title
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: is talking about here, whether agree or disagree on the
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: actual person, but it's like, Hollins, Williams, Pop, Doug, like people,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: even they're not even talking about Douglas much, but even
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: if they are, it's like still sub 10%. So you just,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: to title's point earlier, when you've got Drake May, Darnold, JSN,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: AJ Brown, Ramondre, two kickers, two defenses, people like the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: tight ends, Barner and them, you got Price, you got other,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: there's other guys you could mention too, but my point being,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: these guys just cannot get there at time. So when
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: people are looking for like the magic button to hit
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: this one guy down low. If you know, whoever that's
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: active this game, but you know, if right, right. We're
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: done is the guy like, if that's, that's amazing. Someone
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: said earlier, three catches, three yards, three touchdowns that happens.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And whatever, but it's like, you're, there's just so many
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: other options that you can play that people know are
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: decent enough. They even have a solid enough projection to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: make your lineup good, but it's, they're, they're not going
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to do, they're not going to get enough of them
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: because they can't, they're just too overweight everywhere else. So
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I liked your, I liked a lot of what you said.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I liked, um, Over Shahid under cup. Feel good about
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: that one. That's kind of where I'm at right now.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I probably go more Matt Collins, but I like him
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and pop both. So those two would fit more than
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the Kyle Williams one. The Kyle Williams, I think is
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: like a quote that came up yesterday or something. Maybe
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I can find it here while we're doing it, but who,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: where are you at with these wide receivers? Anything extra
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: to add to these, these thoughts here?
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree with this. Like Collins is
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: solid option option and may captain team. That's kind of
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: why I'm getting higher on, on Drake may. As the
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: show goes on, because there's just so many ways to
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: play him in the captain, you can play him with
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: three wide three receivers. You can play him with, you know,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: two receivers and the running back. You can play him
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: with one pass catcher. You could probably play him without
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: any of them. So, yeah, just the amount of options
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: you have in Drake May captain teams make me more
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: interested in him. You know, JSN, league of his own
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: in terms of the pass catchers on the slate. But
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I do like the Patriots guys next. A.J. Brown, Dobbs,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I think totally fine options. Agree with the Cooper Cup stuff.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Not super excited. I'm not as excited in Shahid as
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: as title is. I mean, the guy's a freak athlete.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but like he's just like. so
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: gimmicky last year. And I don't know. I kind of
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: want to see something. But again, he does have the
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: explosiveness where one play, he could be the guy you need.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to fully be there, though, in
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: terms of ownership. Pop Douglas, I really like at 3K.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I like Matt Collins. And I'm going to call the
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Jahan Dotson, all right, of this slate. The random guy
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: you needed last year, Kyle Williams. I'm going to say
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Kyle Williams is the random guy you need this year.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: to win six figures. It's going to happen. It's going
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: to be six figures up top. Kyle Williams is going
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: to be part of that. He was drafted highly, right?
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: He was a relatively high draft pick, I believe, correct?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: He was a guy, like last year, they were trying
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: to get... Third round. Third round, okay. But last year
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: was his first year, correct?
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Nice number, actually. 69th overall pick.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: There it is, you know, even more reason to play
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: him for sure. He got the old 69. Yeah. I mean,
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: he looked good at the end of last year. They
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: used them in some key spots. He had some big plays. Uh,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: he's going to be like no ownership whatsoever. Um, I
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: think he's just a random guy that could go off tonight. Yeah,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: a guy.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: We can put a little record on him in the
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Discord today, too, and he's going to have his tower
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: up there soon. And we'll get to some of these
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: other questions when we get to those positions, guys.
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: And that is the thing with the Patriots. Just one
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: more thing I wanted to point out, then you can
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: have it back, is even though they got A.J. Brown
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: and Roby O'Dowd, they're still going to use these other guys.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Remember last year, that was the hardest part about playing
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Drake-made teams. There's so many dudes involved, just so many
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: random guys involved. Even though they have A.J. Brown and Dobbs,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I still think they're going to mix in these other
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: guys and you're going to get opportunities. Kyle Williams showed
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: some promise last year. He has explosiveness. He can make
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: the big plays. They're high on him last year. I
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: just don't think they're giving up on him this year
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: because they got A.J. Brown. So I do like him tonight.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: So this is good. Speaking about Kyle's our man, go
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: collect first name, Kyle. We met him hooping in Michigan
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: that time. He drove out and met with us, says
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: need the Pat Swiss for a Rio receiver room. And
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that's the thing I love about our community. Shout out
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: to our man Rio always crushing, but right there, ready
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: to go with the answer. I can't gift you a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: free month Rio. I think you got a little more
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: than that coming your way, but just noting it, he
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: says yes on Kyle Williams with the rocket emoji. So
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: we love to see that. So Kyle, People are going
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to be in on them. I will say, just going
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: back to earlier, as I said, I love about this.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to use it from a content perspective,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: but you can dig into old lineups and slate reviews
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and everything. But if you look up Kyle Williams from
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: 16 hours ago with, it's got the pull right from
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Mike Nuggets, NFL, a new, new Twitter out there that
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are following. It says, Mike Brable says,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams has elite release mechanics and that the Patriots
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: will need more from this season. Again, his route, his
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: release mechanics are as good as they come. And we
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: call that getting parallel right here as a receiver, getting parallel. uh,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: prove he's more than just a deep threat, catching touchdowns, preseason,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And then who was the other
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: guy you said? Um, it was somebody else you were
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: talking about there that we were over Shaheed. So if
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: you just go look up the latest Shahid, this one's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: from two days ago, but it was a Seahawks offensive
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: expectations from underdog. Just talked about it through Jay Fowler,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: ESPN motion shifts, two tight end sets. Rashid Shahid could
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: get more work as a complete wide receiver, maybe less
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: of that gadget stuff that we talked about. I know
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: his prop in another discord this morning was getting bet.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: And I think it went up like two yards already
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: on longest reception. So if the thought process is, it's
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: going to be him getting a little more action than that.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: jadarian price will be a big factor might not be
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: 20 carries the games i don't know i i use
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: this for pretty much everything right now for news but
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: i just thought that was interesting when you talk i
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: knew that there was a quote on kyle williams i
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: can go find it right away so i think that's
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: somewhat intriguing as well i don't know.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: One last thing i mentioned it really briefly but like
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: for the pop douglas matt collins williams Trading Keyshawn Booty
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: and I mean, Frabel came out and straight up said
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: like he wasn't even going to be like on the
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: active roster and make it the 53 man to start
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: the season. Like that shows a lot of hope and
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: promise for guys like Pop, mainly Pop, but then Kyle Williams,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Matt Collins, because that wasn't the expectation going into this offseason.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: So and then if anyone saw Booty's response to that
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: as professional as it gets.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: So that's a different story, though.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely. I like that call in the chat. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: was talking about it too, just as well. So yeah,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: kicker talks coming up soon. People said tight ends. It
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: was already asked earlier. I like this guy last year.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: We were on him early. I still like him on
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: this slate. If Horton was out, I would like him
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: even more, but I'm going to, as much as the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Henry and Barner stuff is good and they're at very
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: good ownership still, like they're 20% or less kind of,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: you can fit them in, you can't play them all.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: So they work just fine. Even in the captain, I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: do like Arroyo. in the, in the flex here. And
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: you can do it a bunch of different ways, but
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I do think he's somewhat interesting at that price point.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: He's cheaper than Halani and those guys. And look, I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: expect for good reason. I think all that's accurate, but
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it's the price that is still nice for me.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: And then the fact of how he could be involved
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: down there. Very good athlete. As people talk about in
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: the chat, like we've seen it from him already. I just,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: the injury and stuff. So I think you'll, he'll be fine.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: tight end Barner, Henry, people are going to be on them.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: They'll be fine. They fit in wherever you put them,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: but hoop, do you got anything you want to go
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: with here at tight end title already gave kind of
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: his love for the tight end. So we know where
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: he sits. What, what else are you thinking here at
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: tight end?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like them for sure. And I said like those,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: both of them would be my cheap captains that I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: would take a chance on up top because I think
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: both of them have multiple touchdown upside Hunter, Henry and Barner.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I probably like you know, Barnard more than, than Henry,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: because I just think Barnard could be like the second
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: pass catcher that Sam Darnold looks to after, after JSM,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: but I'm, I'm in on them. Uh, Arroyo, uh, at 1600, uh,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. Then the one guy I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: don't know much about, I mean, he has, uh, what's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: our projection on him? Uh, one and a half. I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: just don't know much about this, uh, Rairding guy. So
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: curious to see what you guys say, or if anyone
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: on the chat has any information because, um, you know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, like has been solid and, uh, they do. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: So 4.6, 36 inch vert. You can get downfield. They
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: can catch the ball and get a field a bit.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: So like Drake may captain teams, I think perfect guy
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: to include in there. And then again, that's, I've said
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: it probably a million times and I probably don't need
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: to say it again, but another reason why I like the,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: the Drake may captain, because, uh, this is another guy
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: that you can kind of throw into the mix, but, um,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: You know, definitely Barner, Henry for sure I like, and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: then Arroyo, and I guess I'm playing this Raritan guy
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: because Tidal said he's athletic.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: That's it, yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Married, believer in Jesus.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Now we're talking.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Rocking a little flow. He got some flow too. Like
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the hair is there for.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah. All this is right up Tidal. All three.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: He's got to be a boxer. Amen.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Over there so yeah i think uh i think buddy's
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: doing all right for himself by the looks of things
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: here so yeah looks uh you know looks very capable
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and i think that's interesting now going back to that
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: comment earlier of people mentioning like the you know three
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: for three and three i don't know if it'll be
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: that good but again just throwing them down there could
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: be a thing so bill always in the college football
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: street says great pass catching tight end at notre dame
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: do you what's the guess because i i have absolutely
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: no clue what where's where was he drafted title what
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: do you think.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Um i think second round i'm gonna guess i think
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: he was pretty.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Highly so he was up there not.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Quite totally could be totally wrong.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: 95th not as good as 69 but 6 6 245
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: pounds dude this guy is ready to go man just.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: It was great end of the third round then right
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: 90 this ain't.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Uh this ain't what's his name Eli? This ain't Eli Welldone.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: This is Raridon, buddy.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: So you can't be in on this. I'm not allowed to.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: This is for me and title. This is for title.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: You guys got to know that.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: All right, let me think here as we move on.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Got to go to the next one. Kicker, the chat
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: was already talking about it. I think it was our
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: guy Hamwich. Oh, no, it was who? Myers to the Moon.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I thought he's got the same logo Ham uses sometimes.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I saw the H quickly. But yeah, Myers to the Moon.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Start us off there then, man. You've got to move
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: off the stake. Speaking of the moon, blue rare, some
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: people call it too. But what are you doing with, oh,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: he's got this for you.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: Here we go. My guy Newen's had it queued up
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: for me. I mean, 19, 7, 11, 8, 10. 2, 24, 14, 19, 13, 15, 15, 9, 10, 10, 5, 14, 17.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: A lot of double digits. And if you're new to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: the show, like, you know, there's not going to be
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: a lot of times where we're going to go through
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: and look at box scores. But with kickers, I think
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: they can tell you something. Are the teams willing to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: kick field goals? And that's important in this day and
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: age because a lot of teams are going for it
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: on fourth and three or fourth and four. And Seattle
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: is definitely willing to kick field goals. And Meyer's been
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: one of the more consistent guys. solid projection. I mean,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: we have him at basically eight and a half. Like
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: that's a good number for, for a kicker. Like upside
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: is probably 20. So I love Myers and Borgalis on
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: the other side is a guy that had big games
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: last season. Definitely prefer Myers over him. But man, both kickers,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: I think strong options. If you think this is, a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: grinded out sort of game. Then, you know, kickers could
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: have a boost, a lot of field goals in the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. If you're looking at the last time these
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: two teams played, I don't know the exact number, but
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: it was like, was it like 12 to three going
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter? So I think there's a lot
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: of upside for these kickers. I always like kickers, so
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: no one should be surprised.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think some of that's always interesting. I don't
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: want to keep covering title space, but I will say
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: it's like the... When you lay it out like this,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: it always looks so good, but it's like there's... What
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: about the 7, the 8, the 2, the 9, the 10,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the 10, the 5, the 9, the 8? To me,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: it's like 50-50 of that, but I do like Myers tonight.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's funny just the way you put
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: it in place, but like you said, he has upside.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: There is some optionality here. I guess I would say
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: like Hoop said, I like him a lot more than
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots side, and I think most do, but just
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: in general, it looks like I'll have... a lot more Myers,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: maybe even like double the field of that side. Because
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: if to me with the way the game could go
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: with how Vrabel does things with just a lot of
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: different factors, I think it's just way more likely we
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: see it versus the Seahawks, whether they're up down, I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: think they're going to kick it if they can. So
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: like that, I also like the Seahawks D which we'll
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: get to in a second, but anything you want to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: add on kickers there, Tyler, or anything, any takeaways from
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: that stuff?
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: My initial run, because I'm eating a lot of chalk at,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: other places like seeing 25% for a kicker is just
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: a little concerning for me. You can go 400 less
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: and take 8% in savings. And then you could even
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: go any kicker to either defense. We're showing 10% Patriots,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: 16% Seahawks. I think today to get difference. And I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: like the under more in this game. I think I'm
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: defenses over kickers and I'll just play the ownership game.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: And it is against you guys a bit and go
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Borgalis over Myers for that reason.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, and that's the other thing too. I like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: how you worded that because it's like, if you were
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: looking at it from that perspective and even Sean just
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: said it now, larger Delta in their ownership than I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: would have thought.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: It is quite a bit actually, but it's also like,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: you don't have to put any kickers in your lineup
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: either if you don't want to. So that's the other
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: nice thing about showdown. So if you don't love it,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: we're obviously going position by position here, but if it's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: not for you, you don't have to naturally go down
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to something else or, or to like, I'll do defense instead.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: You can think of it of your entire lineup and
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: tell a story. If you're, you know, going to be
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Stevenson up in the captain, but you're going to five one. Well,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: maybe it is some kicks later on. Stevenson gets it
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: going early. The Patriots are putting it on them and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're kicking field goals when they're
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: up and just, you know, taking more points, more points, more,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be. So it all should go with
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: your lineup. Make sure it tells a story. I'll go
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: to defenses here first and then kick it back to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you hoop. But similar story to the kickers. It's just, again,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: leaning that side of the game. I'm getting more Seattle
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: than I am Patriots, but to title's point, when, what
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I do like is these guys aren't showing up as much,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: this would fit a lot of what I'm doing though.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Like I talked about price up top, like you can
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: have price with the defense. Like I think the spread
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: is what it is. And I don't know, like, I'm
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: not trying to figure that out right now and say like,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: what side's going to win? Cause I think it goes
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: either way. But I think, like I said earlier, five one's,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: are too low as it starts, but I could see
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: either side, either it's a Superbowl hangover and it's Rabel
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots and they come back and they're, I
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: think they're better now. Yo, C-Rod got his contract done
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: and dealt with like everything should be fired up for them.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: AJ Brown's there, tons of things you could say, or
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: could go the other way and it could just flat
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: on their face again and Seahawks just crushed. But you know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: that's how I'm looking at it from those build perspectives. Who,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: what do you think in a defense here?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Like I said, in the opening, a little more prone
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: to play some of these or these defenses. Usually I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: don't play much, but I do want to make sure
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: I have at least some of each side. Obviously, um,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: you know, the Seahawks have an advantage here at home, uh,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: the whole 12th man thing, really loud stadium, better defense overall. Uh,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: but I think I want some Patriots to ownership discrepancies
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: pretty wide. Um, We're showing, what, six? Yeah, right around six. Yeah,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure to have some. I'm never
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: super excited about defense, but again, like I said in
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: the opening, I think this game has the potential to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: be maybe ugly. I said like 17-14. Someone in the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: chat said 20-17. Those are scores where defense could come
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: into play.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Andrew, that's what we talked about earlier. I mean, again,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: only can estimate and just running off everything that we do,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be lower than usual.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: So I'll take a stand on both sides of five
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: ones just to be able to get some. It looks
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: like right now. Could be anywhere to 70% to 80%
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: of builds that are going to be 3-3s and 4-2s.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: So it's very high. And just the way it builds.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: That setup is just the way it lands. And all
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the builds sort of fit it. No matter what you like,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: there's always somebody there. And you'll notice it's a 4-2-1 way,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: a 3-3 works. You're just rolling with that. I think
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  Speaker 1: these are the types of nights we want to do it.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: And what's the game tomorrow night? San Francisco? at the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: rams it'll it'll be funny because we're back tomorrow 2 p.m
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: eastern so make sure you guys are subscribed to the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: channel but i will say it's gonna be like a
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: lot of what happens tonight will bleed into tomorrow as
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: usual right like if it is a 5-1 that gets
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: there and then tomorrow looks like somebody should be a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: 5-1 it will the pendulum will swing right away and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden the 5-1s will be over owned
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night so it's kind of like flipping back and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: forth between that but there's a ton of ways to
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: get different tonight i always say this i usually say
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: it off the top but i really like this slate
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: i like the unknowns it's not just that football's back
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it's not just that there's a million dollars up top
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: but i want to play these slates where there's more.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: Unknown shocker that you like the the first game of
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: the nfl season you're excited about the slate i'm surprised
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: sometimes people.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Aren't though i think like it depends on the you have.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: To be everyone has to be no one's gonna say
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: i hate this slate like everyone's excited Right.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: For the different reason. I'm saying most people are excited
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: that football's back. We had the gist popping in the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: discord all day. Everyone's excited that it's back. I always
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: tell it the truth. I always tell it straight on
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: the slates and how much I like them. This would
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: be an upper echelon slate for me. Like I'm not
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: just playing more action because it's night one.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: I guess my point is, I guess my point is
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: if you didn't like the slate. you wouldn't come out
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: and say it tonight just because like the excitement, you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: don't want to be the buzzkill. Like, Oh, I'm not excited.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Like I will tell you if I don't like a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: slate this late, I do. I really want people to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: know the hype is not just for night one to
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: your point, but it is because I actually do think
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: this is a really good slate for DFS. Like, I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: think we've got a lot of ways to, to get
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: to the top tonight. And I think we can definitely
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: see my, my biggest hope is like always. And, and,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: you know, title, we talk about this with the dupes
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: and stuff, but I think tonight's a slate meaning good
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: slate for me is where we could actually see it
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: chopped 10 ways or less. And that's what gets me
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: excited for these slates. I want to play to win
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: the most amount. I want to solve the season early
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: and then be able just to kind of play through
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: the season, not have to grind through after, you know,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: night after night after night. So yeah, we're saying, saying
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: the same things, different ways, title, any thoughts from you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: on the defense's.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the defenses more than the kickers. Just
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: looking at the ownership, and I think Seahawks are phenomenal
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: for sure. And like you said, last year we had
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: 10 dupes, and it was $ 172, 000 with $ 15. This year
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: it's $ 20, $ 132, 000. So that's an extra 40,000 people in
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: that contest where there was still only 10 dupes. So
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: that can end with how soft salary is, with how
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: many options there are. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: completely shocking if you saw four dupes or something like that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I do think it's a good slate too.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: regardless of it being night one.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Even if it was bad, though, anytime there's 132,000 people,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: and we say it a lot, there's a lot more
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: prizes early, a lot more fish early. As the season
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: goes on, the fish lose their money and more stuff
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: goes on. People get a little more sick of it.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: And the prizes are always still great, but they do shrink.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: You're going to see week three on a Thursday night
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: showdown game is going to look nothing like we see
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: this week. So I do think now's the time to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: push your edge a little bit if you do think
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: you have one. That doesn't mean just go broke and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: not being able to be dealt in as the, as
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: the weeks go on, you got to stay in the game, um,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: to have a chance to win. So definitely bankroll management,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I'll be playing way more volume in week
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: one than I will most of this year. And that's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: just because of the prizes.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Agreed.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I like that call. And I think, um, you know,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: from the poker spot, we didn't bring that one up early.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Another thing you're grinding usually. So it's like you got
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: to push the chips in there, but I think it's good.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I think you made some good points there on that
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: stuff as well. It's going to be a, a fun
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: slate hoop. Is there anything on the fan dual side
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to talk about? I'm going to move
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: this back now. I think I've got it set up.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: So we have the same, just so people know, like again,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: not every site does it this, but we do have
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: the fan dual with the different ownership. You'll be able
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: to balance it all out and build from there. But
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: just looking at some of the pricing here, uh, Flex-wise,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: JSN's 13K, Drake May, just anything you see as we're
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: scrolling through here that stands out for you.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: There's a couple standouts.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Dobbs is up there.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: The Cooper Cup range, Cooper Cup 54, Helani 5K, Barner
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: definitely stands out at 48. Those three seem cheap compared
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: to their prices over on DK. Okay.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: You got the boost though. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: So you go down to the bottom, like not too
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: much of a difference. It's kind of, you know, you
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: got JSN at the top, you got Drake May, Sam Darnold,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown, Stevenson and Price are a little closer in price,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: only $ 800 difference here. I believe there may be like,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: what is it? 1200 over on DK. So not much
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: of a difference. I will say though, yeah, that 5k,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: low 5k, upper 4k. cup holani and and barner seem
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: pretty cheap on uh on fan duel.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Uh it's gonna be harder for people to get to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: price over there too it looks like just because the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: pricing is so close to stevens it's probably almost like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: you can't have to look into it further on the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: fan duel side but it's like it is such a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: gap but remember too like you see projections and ceilings
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: and people use this and you should it's it's typically
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: accurate and good but in a one game slate and
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: when you're flipping it If you don't manually change it yourself,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: you can also mentally change it yourself and just say,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: all right, well, I actually see it's going to be
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: price that gets what Stevenson does. And I think Stevenson
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: is going to get a little bit held in check.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: So even if you leave that money on the table
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: from 15,000 down to 13, eight and flip the game script,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: you're basically in your mind saying that I'm good with
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: that because I think price is actually going to outdo this.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Don't just fall in love with it and have to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: roll with it. I think on the bigger slates and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: you know, big 12 gamer on Sunday that will break
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: down Sunday morning at 9am Eastern here. That's where it's like, okay,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sacrifice as much, but if you're
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: telling a story with it, and especially on these one
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: game slates, I think it's super important title. Anything else
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: you wanted to add from a fan duel perspective? Doesn't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: have to be prices or players. You talked a little
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: bit earlier about 200 K up top. Not many people
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: were even talking about it, but I just think over there,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: it is even more condensed. Like JSN, Drake, May, Romandre,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: and Darnold is like even brown is could could be
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: like what we have like he could be really low
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: on just because those first four get almost all the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: action up top to hoop's point earlier just going further
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: with this the softer pricing on you on draft kings
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: allows you're gonna need the top score so people are
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: expecting that but the top score could be price brown
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: shaheed any of those guys and also the price boosts
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: at flex to some of those other you don't have
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: henry at 4800 he's 7600 so that you'd have to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: go to somebody else down there and say okay maybe
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: it's going to be kyle williams or maybe it's not
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: going to be um price or it's not going to
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: be shaheed story it's going to be uh who'd we
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: talk about earlier barnard down there at 4800 so you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: can get there the same way but i think mvps
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: get a little tighter over on fanduel yeah i.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: Agree because the pricing is also soft over on fanduel
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: as well so it's very similar and if you're looking
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: at the stone like we show at jsn drake may
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: remandre like it we don't have to go dumpster diving.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: And unless you were living under a rock last year,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: but FanDuel also took the DraftKings where you do have
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: to pay more at MVP, which is a lot better.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: So then some of the value, like Coop mentioned, that
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: 5K range is strong, but Kyle Williams all the way
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: down to 3K if you want that.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Arroyo, 3.4K.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: Pop Douglas looks good at 3.8. The last thing that
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: I'll mention is I don't hate almost taking in some
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: lineups like a full zero at the 1K guys, and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: then I probably wouldn't want to leave more than 600.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: That Eli Raritan dude's 1.6K. If he gets one catch,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: it feels like you're almost drawing dead if you leave
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: 800 because any of those stone dead Russell guys at
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: 1K then would go to Raritan. But it gets you
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: on a little different build if you want to jam
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: all the studs. No one plays them. We could see
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: if it's concentrated enough. And the studs do what the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: studs do, a zero at full 1K that uses most
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: of their salary. And those lineups could be duped pretty
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: little as well, just because no one wants to click
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: someone that's almost unprojected. So that's something I'm more interested
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: on FanDuel than on DraftKings today.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that too. I think it's going to be,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: A good night for that. Like if I, you know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: if you can, man, I'm going to get some Raritan
• 1:17:55
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• 1:17:57
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• 1:17:59
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• 1:18:01
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  Speaker 4: Five hours on the dot. We will see some football
• 1:21:14
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• 1:21:16
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• 1:21:20
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• 1:21:23
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• 1:21:25
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• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Excited to be back here in the booth
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: with you guys. Hoop, we got to answer this one
• 1:21:39
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• 1:21:41
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• 1:21:47
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• 1:21:50
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• 1:21:52
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• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty rough decision, week one of NFL, if
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: you're number two wide receiver.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: No, it might be number two flex. Maybe he has
• 1:22:02
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• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. Diggs, I guess. It's close, but I
• 1:22:10
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• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: I'll say Diggs. Appreciate the question, but we'll roll with Diggs.
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• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: What did you hate? You guys told us what you hated.
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  Speaker 1: We adapted, we changed it. We made it better. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: going to get their fair shake. Now, every single week,
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  Speaker 1: you're welcome to play. As long as you're an all
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  Speaker 1: access or NFL only member, you'll get the heads up
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  Speaker 1: like everybody else on a regular week. Just to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: it will be announced probably Monday morning or Monday afternoon
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  Speaker 1: that it's, you know, once we get the link from
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: DraftKings that it's coming out soon. And once we get
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the link, we'll post it, but you'll get a heads up. You'll,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to have a chance to get in there. So, Um,
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  Speaker 1: how many people want a million dollars so far we've
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  Speaker 1: had four or five Millie maker winners. You can just
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: go to winner's circle. And then you scroll down and
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  Speaker 1: partnered with Saber Sim directly. So you get all the
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Rolex watch. The whole Winter Circle program is live for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't know it too. But we did interviews
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  Speaker 1: with Chris and with Dalton. That's two different members that
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  Speaker 1: won a million bucks. Then our guy Mark F won
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  Speaker 1: it with a Justin Watson captain that week. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the showdown slate. That was awesome. And it was funny
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  Speaker 1: because D-Dry is Dalton was the first guy right there
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  Speaker 1: to congratulate him and say, you know, you joined the club.
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  Speaker 1: So congrats. And then our man, Chad, Chad Scarberry. So
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  Speaker 1: Scar X24. Said, well, boys, I've been close twice. Today
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  Speaker 1: it finally happened. He won the Millie by 0.5 in golf.
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  Speaker 1: Tons of 100K winners, though. You can see our internal staff,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: but then all kinds of members. And then 10,000 just
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  Speaker 1: keeps growing. And then we can't even put the screenshots
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: for the thousands. Anybody from 1,000 to 5,000, et cetera,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: just the list keeps going on. You can make it bigger.
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  Speaker 1: There's tons of options there for you guys to get in.
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  Speaker 1: All the rules are on the site. any withdrawals? No, Jill,
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  Speaker 1: Jill's not here, but, uh, we'll, we'll get back into
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  Speaker 1: the golf season sooner than you think hoop back, baby,
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  Speaker 1: final thoughts, anything you want to add before we get
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  Speaker 1: out of here?
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  Speaker 3: Feels good to be back. Uh, excited to have football.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be back obviously tomorrow. So you guys won't miss
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  Speaker 3: us too much. And then Sunday morning, uh, as well,
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  Speaker 3: a lot in between, I know title has the cash show, uh, Tambo, you, uh,
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  Speaker 3: have the, uh, Leverage Lane with Blickle, yeah. Yeah, Leverage
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  Speaker 3: Lane with Blickle on Saturday. So a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 3: to come for the rest of the week. We're excited
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: about all our content. We'll obviously be up soon for
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: tonight's slate, and then we'll get working on tomorrow's slate,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: and then the full slate on Sunday as well. So
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  Speaker 3: Like Tambo said, there's no one in the– they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to upsell you on bigger and more expensive packages and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: split up their content into different packages so you have
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  Speaker 3: to pay them twice. Over here, we're giving money back
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  Speaker 3: to our customer base. So that's something we're definitely proud of.
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  Speaker 3: Just another reason to join. So, yeah, excited for the
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: football game tonight, and we'll be back tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And like you said, too, we're also offering deals
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  Speaker 1: that are for less cost per month for you to
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  Speaker 1: get in on. So it's like a lot of gouging
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: out there, but not giving away anything back and way
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: too lit says it's rough, man. Two flex leagues. Thank you.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Definitely excited for this, guys. Make sure to Beetle Bane.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Shout out to him, says, you know, turn notifications on. Definitely.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I got 50K off a slate like this
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Big thanks to Hoop that day.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Hoop's core is up on the site. Ours will go.
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  Speaker 1: I know Title's got the cash game ones up. I
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: know BG Little Neck's working on the tower. We'll have
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the show summary for those that couldn't catch it or
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to it and find some stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a fun season, guys. Hopefully you'll
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  Speaker 1: to the channel. That's going to do it for this one, guys.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: For Title, for Hoop, and for myself, Toe Tag and Tambo,
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  Speaker 1: good luck tonight. Let's ship it!