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Midday Missing - Edna Thorne & Lonene Rogers - MISSING IN PENNSYLVANIA · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Now this first case, we're going to go back a
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  Speaker 1: little ways, okay, And what I want you to stop
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  Speaker 1: and think about is where you would be in what
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  Speaker 1: you would be feeling like if this had happened to
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  Speaker 1: your family. Okay. Because on a warm summer day in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen year old Edna Christine Thorne left her family home
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  Speaker 1: on North Front Street with a very simple plan. She
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  Speaker 1: was going to visit the pony she had just gotten
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  Speaker 1: at a stable over on Tayoga Street. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to go play with a pony. Now. It
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  Speaker 1: was June twenty fourth, nineteen seventy five. She had recently
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  Speaker 1: graduated from Stetson Junior High School and was beginning to
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  Speaker 1: enjoy a sense of independence, often spending her free time
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  Speaker 1: around animals and guys. They said this was something she
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  Speaker 1: dearly loved. She was an animal person, kind of like me. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Edna wasn't particularly outgoing, but she had a kind spirit
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  Speaker 1: and a quiet presence. Okay. She had brown eyes, brown hair.
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  Speaker 1: Her hair was often dyed blonde. Okay. She stood about
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  Speaker 1: five feet tall and weighed one hundred and five pounds
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  Speaker 1: at the time of her disappearance. Now, that day, she
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  Speaker 1: wore a striped shirt bell bottomed jeans, which was a
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  Speaker 1: typical outfit for a teen in the mid seventies. Now,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't take a purse or money with her, just
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  Speaker 1: a pack of cigarettes. Okay, I'm not shaming anyone, but
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  Speaker 1: I was only five in nineteen seventy five. Could someone
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  Speaker 1: tell me why a fifteen year old was smoking cigarettes?
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  Speaker 1: And I know it was a seventy Was that something
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  Speaker 1: that was common? I mean, my parents smoked like lots
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  Speaker 1: of cigarettes. But did fourteen year old smoke cigarettes? And
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  Speaker 1: was it? Okay? Was it? I mean I don't know
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  Speaker 1: anything about that. I mean I guess that I was five,
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  Speaker 1: So to me, I was like, holy macaroni and cheese,
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  Speaker 1: that's young. Okay, I'm glad it's a law. Now. I
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  Speaker 1: see some of you saying that was common. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I had candy cigarettes that you pretended to smoke. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that now you've got to be eighteen and
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  Speaker 1: that we've learned our lessons about that and that fourteen
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  Speaker 1: year old should not be smoking now. According to her family,
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  Speaker 1: Edna had asked her sister to join her that day
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  Speaker 1: but her sister declined, so Edna made the trip to
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  Speaker 1: the stable alone. Guys, it was a last time anyone
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  Speaker 1: would see her. Now. She made the trip alone, and
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  Speaker 1: she was seen leaving the house that morning, and it
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  Speaker 1: was confirmed she arrived at the stable where her pony
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  Speaker 1: was being kept. But what happened after she left the
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  Speaker 1: stable is a complete mystery, Guys. She never returned home.
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  Speaker 1: She was never cited again, nothing, Okay. Her family reported
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  Speaker 1: her missing soon after. Now, Initially law enforcement suspected she
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  Speaker 1: had maybe run away, which, guys, it was a more
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  Speaker 1: common assumption back then when teens go missing that they
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  Speaker 1: were runaways. Still happens occasionally today, but I hope it's less. Sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: my notice assision. But those who knew Edna didn't believe
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  Speaker 1: she would have left voluntarily, okay. Fight spending some time
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  Speaker 1: in foster care in the past due to some family issues,
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  Speaker 1: she had reconnected with her family and was beginning to
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  Speaker 1: settle back into a more stable environment. Now I have
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  Speaker 1: to say, can you imagine the guilt her sister has
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  Speaker 1: lived with because she said no and didn't go with
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  Speaker 1: her to the stables. Guys, I want to remind you
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  Speaker 1: before we continue with the story. When someone goes missing,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the person who's impacted, Okay, it's their family. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Soon after her disappearance, Edna's sister began receiving disturbing anonymous
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  Speaker 1: phone calls. The caller described in detail the clothes Edna
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  Speaker 1: had been wearing and claimed to know where her body
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  Speaker 1: could be found, specifically in Penny Pack Park. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: caller never identified themselves and hung up each time. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: these calls, I mean they unsettled the family. This is
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  Speaker 1: retraumatizing the family. But the leads never developed into anything
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  Speaker 1: that was confirmed evidence. And we've got to remember, guys,
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  Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy five, you could not do call
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  Speaker 1: tracing and all the fancy stuff we do today. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as the years went by, Edna's case was reclassified as
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  Speaker 1: a non family abduction. Why it took years, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And then eventually they have said a suspected homice side. Now,
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  Speaker 1: despite this, her remains have never been found. No one
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  Speaker 1: has ever been charged in connection with her disappearance. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: some theories that emerge, including disturbing suggestions from within the family.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, a relative a lie that Edna may
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  Speaker 1: have been sexually abused by her brother in law and
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  Speaker 1: possibly pregnant at the time she vanished. Guys, these allegations
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  Speaker 1: have never been substantiated by police, but it did raise
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  Speaker 1: some flags and questions about whether Edna's disappearance may have
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  Speaker 1: been an attempt to silence her or or cover something up. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I am that firm believer that in every rumor there
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  Speaker 1: could be a piece of truth, even if the only truth,
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  Speaker 1: say the rumor is Harry went out got drunk on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I went out and got drunk, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, So there always can be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of information that is true. Now, Edna's case was
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  Speaker 1: entered into multiple national database in hopes of a breakthrough.
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  Speaker 1: An age progressed image of Edna was developed by NCMC
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  Speaker 1: to show what she might look like as an adult.
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  Speaker 1: DNA and dental records are on file, making identification possible
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  Speaker 1: if she or remains are ever found. But Guys, despite
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  Speaker 1: these efforts, the trail remains cold. To this day. Edna's
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  Speaker 1: family and advocates continue to seek answers. Though the initial
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  Speaker 1: investigations suffered from the limitations of the nineteen seventies. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: their missing person protocols were a lot different than what
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  Speaker 1: they are now, so especially for teens presumed to be runaways,
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  Speaker 1: her case has remained open now. Organizations like the Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Project and Doe Network have worked to keep Edna's story
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  Speaker 1: in the public eye. Post about her case continue to
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  Speaker 1: circulate online, especially among missing person advocates, amateur sluice, and
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  Speaker 1: the true crime communities like ours. The family's pain, however, remains.
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  Speaker 1: Decades have passed with no resolution, and Edna's story has
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  Speaker 1: become a symbol of how quickly a young life can
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  Speaker 1: disappear without answers, and how hard families must fight to
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  Speaker 1: keep these memories alive. Guys, that's heartbreaking. Okay, Edna has
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  Speaker 1: been missing for over forty nine years. Can you imagine?
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  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't even put myself on their shoes.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wrap my mind around what that must be
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  Speaker 1: like now. Her mother sadly passed away without ever knowing
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  Speaker 1: what happened to her daughter. Guys, that's horrific. In a
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  Speaker 1: recent Facebook post, her sister posted, no update, haven't had
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  Speaker 1: any in years. I still can't believe we have nothing,
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  Speaker 1: no answers. My poor mother would say a prayer every
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  Speaker 1: night and every morning for answers. She passed seven years
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  Speaker 1: ago at the age of ninety six and always prayed
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  Speaker 1: for answers on her daughter, which she never got. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: time does not make the pain go away for the family.
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  Speaker 1: They do not forget, stop and think. They go to
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  Speaker 1: bed every night wondering was she tortured, was it a
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  Speaker 1: fast death? Was she taken? And has she been held captive?
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  Speaker 1: What happened? Okay, every night and wake up every day.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to think about that. That is torture
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  Speaker 1: day after day. So I want to ask if you
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  Speaker 1: know anything, please call the Philadelphia please at two one
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  Speaker 1: this next case is a little bit closer to my heart,
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  Speaker 1: half ago. I actually met Allison and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: hear about her as we get into this story. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: On a snowy night in January nineteen eighty one, a
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  Speaker 1: young mother vanished from her home in Hayfield Township, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: leaving behind a mystery that has haunted her family for
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  Speaker 1: over four decades and continues to haunt them today. Loneine
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  Speaker 1: Rainn Rogers, known affectionately as Lonnie, was just twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: years old when she disappeared without a trace. Lonnie was
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  Speaker 1: born on October eighteenth, nineteen fifty one, in Ohio, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents were Maxine and Ray, and she had two
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  Speaker 1: younger sisters, Glenn and Maya. She was profoundly deaf but
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  Speaker 1: fiercely independent. Guys. She was raised in a family that
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  Speaker 1: refused to isolate her from the world. She attended public
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  Speaker 1: schoo learned to lip read and signed fluently. Guys. That
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  Speaker 1: is a family who loved and accepted her for the
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  Speaker 1: way she was and helped her to have the best
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  Speaker 1: life she can have. Okay. Her loved ones described her
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  Speaker 1: as joyful, expressive, and full of white warmth. It can't
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  Speaker 1: even talk. Lonnie had a vibrant spirit, Guys. She loved
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  Speaker 1: to dance, even though she couldn't hear the music. She
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  Speaker 1: felt the rhythm through vibrations and dance. Guys, she probably
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  Speaker 1: has better rhythm than me. Okay. It was at the
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  Speaker 1: Eerie Silent Club that Lonnie met Clinton Bud Rogers, a
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  Speaker 1: fellow member of the deaf community, but it was quite
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  Speaker 1: and seemed eager to fit in with her family, though
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  Speaker 1: Maxine said something felt off about him, so Lonnie followed
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  Speaker 1: her heart okay. The two married and had two children,
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  Speaker 1: Allison and Aaron. Now the couple moved frequently before settling
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  Speaker 1: into a second floor duplex in Little Corners, Hayfield Township.
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  Speaker 1: The location was ideal Lonnie's parents and grandparents lived just
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  Speaker 1: across the way. But guys, the dream did not last. Sorry, Laney, no,
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  Speaker 1: we are now talking about Lonnie Rogers. I will come
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  Speaker 1: back and answer your question when I finish now. By
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  Speaker 1: the late eighties, the marriage began to crack under Bud's
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  Speaker 1: repeated arrest and theft okay, and mounting tensions in the marriage,
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  Speaker 1: the couple separated. Bud moved out to live with his
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  Speaker 1: parents forty minutes away. Still, for the children's sake, helped
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  Speaker 1: him to stay during the holidays with her. After New
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  Speaker 1: Year's when Bud was supposed to leave, he refused. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: On January sixth, nineteen ninety, nineteen eighty one, Lonnie told
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  Speaker 1: her father she planned to ask Bud to move out.
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  Speaker 1: Her father gave her sixty dollars to help her out. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The next day, she went to work her regular housekeeping
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  Speaker 1: shift at the meat Thill Inn. After work, she picked
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  Speaker 1: up her children and she returned home. Everything normal. That night,
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  Speaker 1: a heavy snowstorm blanketed the area. Now, on the night
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  Speaker 1: of January seventh, nineteen eighty one, that I mean the
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  Speaker 1: snowstorm they say was furious, and it swept across the
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  Speaker 1: county and inside the duplex, tensions were boiling. Okay, it
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  Speaker 1: was getting hot, Lonnie and Bud argued again. He refused
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  Speaker 1: to leave, Guys. She was like, this is my place.
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  Speaker 1: I let you stay here with the kids for the holidays.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to get the hell out, dude. That's me
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  Speaker 1: what I would say of her. Okay. Now, according to Bud,
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  Speaker 1: he said he went to bed after their argument, which
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  Speaker 1: was sometime between one and three am. So he claimed,
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  Speaker 1: Wannie simply vanished, guys, But what she left behind tells
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  Speaker 1: a different story. Okay, her hearing aids, her glasses, her purse,
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  Speaker 1: her medication, her car, keys, and her mustang. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: left behind now. A pink king sized blanket was missing
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  Speaker 1: from the bed, but everything else was left behind. Hmm. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Bud woke up the kids the next morning and drove
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  Speaker 1: them fifteen minutes through the snow to a babysitter's house. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the babysitter later recalled how sweaty and anxious Bud appeared
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  Speaker 1: hed Lonnie had left him for another man and he
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  Speaker 1: had to go find her. Bullshit, I'm calling bullshit. Okay, Bud, bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: Now what he did for the next four hours is unknown. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: at seven am, he showed up to work on time
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  Speaker 1: and stayed the entire shift. Okay, guys, I am going
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  Speaker 1: to try not to rant. But you refuse to leave
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  Speaker 1: her house. You say, you go to bed, she comes
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  Speaker 1: up missing, You take the kids to a babysitter. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that goes on. Then you go to work and act
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  Speaker 1: like nothing's wrong. Even me, who didn't get along with
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  Speaker 1: my ex, I wouldn't have let him stay in my house.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let him come for Christmas, and I don't him
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  Speaker 1: stand in my house. I still would not have gone
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  Speaker 1: to work if my kid's father was missing. Why because
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  Speaker 1: it was my kid's father. Okay, So I bullshit, Oh
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  Speaker 1: savage Cashew, I agree. Who leaves behind the Mustang and
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  Speaker 1: there was a snow storm. Did she just go for
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  Speaker 1: a walk in the snow? Okay? Now, the babysitter concerned
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  Speaker 1: called Lonnie's father. The babysitter rock star. Okay. Her dad
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  Speaker 1: immediately went over to her house and found the doors locked,
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  Speaker 1: and after knocking with no answer, he kicked down the door. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: good job. Okay. Inside was a meticulously clean home and
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  Speaker 1: Lonnie was not there. Her dad Ray called nine one one.
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  Speaker 1: He said the house was eerily spotless. Police arrived shortly
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  Speaker 1: before Bud returned. Why is he returning to a home
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  Speaker 1: that is not his? I don't know, but red flag
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  Speaker 1: to me? Okay. An argument broke out between Ray and Pud.
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  Speaker 1: You think I have to tell you if that would
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  Speaker 1: have been my dad, my dad would have gone to
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  Speaker 1: jail because Bud would have had some bruises on him.
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  Speaker 1: Not saying I condone violence, I'm just telling you what
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  Speaker 1: my dad would have done. Now. Ray also noticed that
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  Speaker 1: Bud had sixty dollars on him, matching the exact amount
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  Speaker 1: he had given Lonnie the night before. Okay, now, but
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  Speaker 1: claims she gave him the money to pay a bill. Really,
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  Speaker 1: who thinks that? Who thinks she has sixty dollars or
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  Speaker 1: dad gave her, and she gave it to the man.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to get the hell out of her house.
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  Speaker 1: I could see. Okay, you walk outside to leave, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you the sixty dollars, slam the door and lock it.
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  Speaker 1: That's just me. Now. Police brought Bud in for questioning,
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  Speaker 1: but when they realized they couldn't communicate effectively with him,
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  Speaker 1: they abandoned the interview. Guys, why didn't they have someone
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  Speaker 1: who could sign on staff? Why couldn't they write the
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  Speaker 1: words down? I have a lot of questions about that,
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  Speaker 1: but anyway, but simply walked out because no interpreter was provided. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: no follow ups have been documented that we know of.
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  Speaker 1: But it was never arrested or named a suspect by
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement. I am saying law enforcement for a specific reason. Okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: life after Lannie's disappearance was marked by instability and the
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  Speaker 1: heartbreak for Alison and Aaron. They were passed between relatives.
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  Speaker 1: Now on her brother's birthday, Bud demanded Alison ride in
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  Speaker 1: the bed of his truck. Guys, set upset and freezing,
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  Speaker 1: She protested loudly, Okay, guys, I am so Frustrated, he
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  Speaker 1: pulled into a police station and told her to lie,
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  Speaker 1: to say she was bad and that he wasn't taking
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  Speaker 1: her back now. A patrol officer tried to stop him,
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  Speaker 1: but Bad left anyway. Alison, in that moment of despair,
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  Speaker 1: remembered the scrap of paper her school guidance counselor had
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  Speaker 1: given her earlier that day. She handed it to the officer.
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  Speaker 1: That phone call changed her life. It was the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of her escape and the start of a lifelong mission. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: By the time Allison turned fourteen, Bud had abandoned her altogether.
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  Speaker 1: It is said Allison never saw her father again. Now,
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  Speaker 1: years later, haunted by the silence surrounding her mother's disappearance,
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  Speaker 1: Alison began her own investigation, digging through what police record
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  Speaker 1: she could get, speaking with family, and reconstructing the timeline.
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  Speaker 1: She refused to let the world forget Lonnie. Guys. She
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  Speaker 1: wrote a memoir, and she became the face of her
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  Speaker 1: mother's case. When I met her, I'm getting goosebumps. She
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  Speaker 1: is so passionate about getting the truth. Okay, she believes
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  Speaker 1: the truth lies with Bud and Allison. I agree with you, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. She also believes others in the
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  Speaker 1: deaf community who may know more than they've shared. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but Alison has not spoken to Bud since the night
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  Speaker 1: he abandoned her. Guys, Allison has also become a passionate
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  Speaker 1: advocate for cold case families. She proposed legislation known as
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  Speaker 1: Lonnie's Law, which would give families access to investigate case
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  Speaker 1: files after a case has remained unsolved for twenty years. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I think we talked about it way long ago on
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  Speaker 1: a TCWT episode when it was still going around. I
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  Speaker 1: signed it, we asked people to sign it. The bill
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  Speaker 1: has drawn attention across Pennsylvania as more families demand transparency
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  Speaker 1: and account of and long term missing person cases. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with her. I think if the state hasn't
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  Speaker 1: found the person, I say, fifteen years, ten, fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: they should open up the case files, either to family
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  Speaker 1: private investigators. They should ask for help. And if the
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  Speaker 1: family wants to help, especially when it's the child and
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  Speaker 1: the child's now an adult, and this child believes it
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  Speaker 1: was their dad because he's suss is all get out, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you should okay today. Loneine, who also called Lonnie's Case
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  Speaker 1: remains open with the Pennsylvania State Please. It is classified
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  Speaker 1: as an active missing person investigation, though no new leads
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  Speaker 1: have been publicly reported in years. Advocacy groups, including Season
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  Speaker 1: of Justice and Light the Way Missing, have supported her
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  Speaker 1: family search for answers by funding awareness campaigns and billboards. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: if you've never checked out either of those advocacy groups,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to do that, okay, because
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  Speaker 1: they are amazing organizations. Some of the families that we've
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  Speaker 1: had come on Midday missing, We've referred them to these groups.
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  Speaker 1: They have helped them. They are amazing. If you want
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  Speaker 1: to donate or you're in a position, please They do
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  Speaker 1: the hard work and the good work. Okay. They don't
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  Speaker 1: care if they are not perfect victims. And I like
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  Speaker 1: that because I agree there is no such thing as
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  Speaker 1: a perfect victim. Now, justice for Lonnie now lives through
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  Speaker 1: her daughter's voice, through the community's calls for answers, and
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  Speaker 1: in every missing poster, missing person poster that bears her name. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she was a mother, a sister, a friend. Guys. She
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  Speaker 1: did not just vanish and leave behind her children, her car,
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  Speaker 1: her hearing aid, and her stuff. Okay, she did not
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  Speaker 1: someone knows what happened to Loneing Rogers, but your family,
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  Speaker 1: somebody come forward, okay, And until that truth is spoken,
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  Speaker 1: her family is not gonna stop. So but if you
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  Speaker 1: think they're gonna go away, if anybody who knows thinks
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna go away, I can tell you Allison is
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  Speaker 1: one determined woman. She ain't going anywhere, Okay. So if
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  Speaker 1: you know anything about the disappearance of Loneing Ray Rogers
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  Speaker 1: known as Lonnie, please contact the Pennsylvania State Police at
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  Speaker 1: eight one four three three two six. You can also
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  Speaker 1: head over to FBI Gov. Oh, looks like they put
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  Speaker 1: in the link for you. You can also go and do
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  Speaker 1: that because let me tell you, guys, I agree with
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  Speaker 1: Alison after reading the book and the memoir of our mom.
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  Speaker 1: But but even without reading the police report, I am
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: gonna make a statement. I think he was involved or
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he knows something. Okay. Also, they're missing poster poster flyers
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  Speaker 1: will be on our Midday Missing Facebook page. Please go
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  Speaker 1: and share them. Okay. It's not a lot, but guys,
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  Speaker 1: it just takes getting the word out for somebody to
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  Speaker 1: come forward and say, you know what, it's been enough time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go say something. Okay. Now, I do have
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  Speaker 1: some tips for you. I have some back to school tips.
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  Speaker 1: I know school has started different times, but all these
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  Speaker 1: kids should be back in the school by this week. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But guys, it's an exciting time and for parents have
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  Speaker 1: got little ones, it's also a time to be able
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  Speaker 1: to breathe and not have the tornado in your house
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: all day long because they're at school. But it's also
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a good time to brush up on safety. Okay. You
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure your kids know the route that
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  Speaker 1: they are walking, biking, riding the buck Okay, practice that
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  Speaker 1: route with your child so they feel confident. Okay. Also,
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  Speaker 1: please remind your kids to never accept rise gifts or
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  Speaker 1: help from a stranger. I say that if a law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement officer pulls up in a police car, that is
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  Speaker 1: not a stranger. Okay, if they come up and playing
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  Speaker 1: clothes and they got a badge in their hand, and
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  Speaker 1: tell them to get a squad car there. Okay. Also
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  Speaker 1: have a safe word, okay, one that only you and
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  Speaker 1: your child know, so that way, if you do need
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  Speaker 1: someone else to pick them up, you can give them
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  Speaker 1: that word. Okay. Guys, here in the Austin area, this
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  Speaker 1: has happened already this school year. Teach your kids to
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  Speaker 1: say seated on the bus. If there are seat belts,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: please use them. There was just recently a major bus crash.
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  Speaker 1: Kids were not wearing their seat belt. It was a problem. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Also tell your kids to cross ten feet in front
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  Speaker 1: of the bus so the driver can see them. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Oh bye Dave, Bye Dave. Also, I've talked about this
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  Speaker 1: for digital safety. Back to school means more online activity
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  Speaker 1: doing work searches. Please remind kids teenagers not to share
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  Speaker 1: your personal info, locations, or passwords, even with your friends. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: that's not just kids, that's all of us. Okay. Also
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  Speaker 1: encourage the buddy system where you can. There is safety
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  Speaker 1: in numbers. It is harder to abduct to people. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Tell them to scream, kick, yell, whatever they need to do. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: Also make sure your school has up to date phone
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  Speaker 1: numbers so they can contact you. Also, guys, your child
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  Speaker 1: needs to know a couple of phone numbers by heart.
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  Speaker 1: Even me, gotten so used to having my cell phone
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  Speaker 1: and just pressing my favorites, I don't remember numbers, but
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  Speaker 1: I do know three numbers that I can call in
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  Speaker 1: case of an emergency, do the same thing with your kids. Also,
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  Speaker 1: make sure they know their home address. Okay. Also make
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  Speaker 1: sure they know your parents' names and your grandparents' names.
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  Speaker 1: My grandson still thinks my name is Mama, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: I have to remind him it's Terry and yeah. So Also, guys,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good time to start teaching your kids at
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  Speaker 1: any age to trust their instincts. Kids have instincts too, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And tell them it's okay to say no or to
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: walk away, even if it's adults, okay. Tell them if
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: it feels weird, if you just get you know, goose bumps,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you just feel weird, it's okay to walk away, okay.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Also healthy boundaries. Remind them it's okay to have personal space,
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  Speaker 1: and if someone's making them uncomfortable, speak up. Okay, savage. Sadly,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we do have to say that, do not try to
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  Speaker 1: record tiktoks while you're driving. Do not text while you're
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  Speaker 1: driving unless you're using voice to text in a car.
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  Speaker 1: Do not film tiktoks unless you're the passenger. Yell it.
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  Speaker 1: And also, guys, because I play Pokemon Go, do not
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  Speaker 1: play Pokemon Go when you're driving unless you have an
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  Speaker 1: auto cutcher. Let's just don't okay, let's just be smart.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but hey, guys, that's all of my tips.
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  Speaker 1: But I want all of the littles to have great
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  Speaker 1: school years and for them to be kids. Let's let
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: them be kids, but let's also teach them things to
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  Speaker 1: be safe. We don't have to tell them all of
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the bad things that can happen, but we can help
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  Speaker 1: them be safer. Okay. Now, I want to thank you
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  Speaker 1: all for joining me today. I'll look forward to seeing
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  Speaker 1: you again Monday for our next episode of Monday Monday Missing. Lord,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I've been on camera too long. I don't know how
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: long it does it all day on Midday Missing, guys,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: please go join our Facebook group for Midday Missing. That's
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: where we share all our missing person posters as well
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: as share other posters that we verified. Guys also follow
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: us on all social media if you're on social media,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: because believe it or not, Terry true Crime does post
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: some crazy stuff just posted today about the missing rabbit
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in my house that if you want to know about
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the missing rabbit my house, you're going to have to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: go and read it on my Terry True Crime page.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Because it's a story in itself. Okay. Also, guys, remember
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: True Crime and Wind Time airs every Thursday, seven pm Central.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: We offer weekly deep dives Rants look into shocking cases
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  Speaker 1: that we pair perfectly with wine or something to take
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  Speaker 1: the edge off. This week is part three of the
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Aton Paates case, and guys, if you have a y
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: which the first two, you're gonna want to go watch
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: them before tomorrow night. And you also want to be
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: ready for Lama. I think is gonna blow me out
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  Speaker 1: of the water with rants. I think she is going
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  Speaker 1: to one up me on the rants. Okay, now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I am not going to be able to portal you
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  Speaker 1: back over to couch Court with Lama, but I will
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  Speaker 1: go and start couch court for Lama so that it
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  Speaker 1: is ready in waiting when she gets there, So I
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  Speaker 1: will see you over there. If you're not joining us there,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: please stay safe, stay aware. If you see something, say something.
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  Speaker 1: And guys, let's do what we can to help their
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  Speaker 1: families bring their loved ones home, because I have to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: tell you the thought of going forty nine years without
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  Speaker 1: knowing what happened to your loved one sounds like pure
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  Speaker 1: hell to me, and no one should have to experience that,
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  Speaker 1: so please do what you can. Bye guys, see you soon.