Latest / Reclaiming Consciousness / Scalar Energy for The New Earth with Tom Paladino
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- 0:02SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
- 0:05SPEAKER_01: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
- 0:21SPEAKER_01: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
- 0:32SPEAKER_01: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: Get ready to go deep.
- 0:54SPEAKER_01: Now let's dive in.
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: So this week's guest is incredibly fascinating, interesting, and just the whole kind of topic of what we talk about is really, I feel like, relevant right now and incredibly fascinating.
- 1:16SPEAKER_01: So this week we have Tom Palladino on the show.
- 1:19SPEAKER_01: And he has created this healing method.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: It's called scalar energy or scalar light energy.
- 1:28SPEAKER_01: It's basically free energy.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: So if you know what free energy is, it is the way that we can actually create energy from nothing.
- 1:38SPEAKER_01: And he has figured out a way.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: He's a student of Nikola Tesla, and he has figured out a way.
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: He created these instruments to create this scalar light energy, and he uses it on people, and they have these amazing, pretty much miraculous healing results.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: And you will hear him talk about it and the results that people get from it.
- 2:00SPEAKER_01: And then also I started doing it.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: So basically, all you do is you send him your picture and he puts this scalar light energy around your aura, and it has tremendous effects on your health.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: So you hear me in the episode describe what happened for me when I started receiving the scalar light healing energy, and it's all remotely, and it's pretty wild, you guys.
- 2:31SPEAKER_01: It's pretty wild.
- 2:32SPEAKER_01: So I think you're gonna be really fascinated by this, really inspired, and you will definitely want to check him out.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: He offers a free 15-day trial of the scalar light, and you can go on his website and sign up for it.
- 2:48SPEAKER_01: We'll link everything below, but I highly recommend doing that.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: I've been getting it ever since I started doing it, which was right before our interview, and I'm not gonna stop.
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: I have my whole family getting it, including my dog.
- 3:03SPEAKER_01: So it's pretty wild.
- 3:06SPEAKER_01: And I you'll hear me in the episode talk about what the results I had were.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: It's pretty wild.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: And and I really think that this is the future of medicine, the future of healing.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: And it's something that will really blow your mind.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: So I'm excited for you guys to hear this episode.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: And then also another quick announcement here: the manifestation magic retreat is open for enrollment for the early bird pricing until May 15th.
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- 3:49SPEAKER_01: So you can go on to my website and get all of the details for the retreat.
- 3:53SPEAKER_01: But it is a four-day retreat, August 25th to 28th, at this retreat center called Menla, nestled in the Catskill Mountains.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: It's incredibly beautiful.
- 4:04SPEAKER_01: And you receive two group breath work and healing activations with me, a sound and energy healing session with Andrea Donnelly, two yoga classes, a guided hike, a bonfire.
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: All your meals are included.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: They have amazing vegetarian meals there.
- 4:22SPEAKER_01: Plus, there's a spa, a pool.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just gonna be out of this world, you guys, and it's gonna be such a high vibe, such a great energy.
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- 4:42SPEAKER_01: So without further ado, enjoy the episode.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: Hi, everyone, welcome back to Reclaiming Consciousness.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: I am super excited about today's guest, and I find him incredibly fascinating, and I know that you will too.
- 4:58SPEAKER_01: So today we have with us Tom Palladino, and he has been researching and discovering scalar energy, and scalar energy is the fundamental life force found everywhere in the world, space and the universe.
- 5:15SPEAKER_01: It originates from the sun and stars, and he began researching in his undergraduate years and is now um sharing this with many people, which he's gonna tell you about.
- 5:25SPEAKER_01: So, welcome to the show, Tom.
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: It's a pleasure.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: Thank you for the invitation.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
- 5:30SPEAKER_01: So I just want to dive right into it.
- 5:32SPEAKER_01: Can you kind of take us through how you kind of got to this and discovered this and how you went from being born to what you're doing now?
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: That's a great question.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: To reiterate your comments, this is consciousness.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: We're speaking about scalar energy, consciousness or the life force energy.
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: What do we mean by that?
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: This is the initial energy of the universe, the initial light.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: And if you look at light as being the carrier wave for instructions, scalar energy carries instructions for the universe.
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: So this is the intelligence, it carries the intelligence of the universe.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: That's such an important statement.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Scalar light carries the intelligence, imparts that intelligence to the universe.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: So this we've tapped into the consciousness or the intelligence of the universe.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: So to retrace my steps as a youngster, I was an avid reader, and I always read when I found anything of interest, I would really devour that type of topic.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: Well, I thought Nikola Tessa was very interesting.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: So I would devour any book that I could of Tesla.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: Why was Tesla so important?
- 6:41SPEAKER_00: He was the first one to capture this life force energy or scalar energy.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Nikola Tesla was the first scalar energy scientist, incredible mind, incredible person.
- 6:50SPEAKER_00: And I knew that he had discovered something monumental.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to be able to retrace his steps.
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: I wanted to be able in some fashion to continue on with his work.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: Sadly, today there's very few bona fide scalar energy researchers.
- 7:05SPEAKER_01: Why do you think that is?
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: That no one's really doing this work or doing this research.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: I think it's esoteric, and it's hard to understand that there's two energies.
- 7:15SPEAKER_00: You know, we speak about electromagnetic energy.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: Sure, that's accurate.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: But there's another energy, scalar energy, that's not taught by academia.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: And the other reason, and it's becoming more and more uh clear every day, there's suppression.
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: This energy is a new energy, so to speak.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: It's it's free energy from the sun and the stars.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: So scalar energy, scalar light is from the sun and the stars, meaning what?
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: If we tap into that, we tap into free energy, free, clean energy.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: Well, that's what people want.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: They want free, clean energy or relatively inexpensive energy.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: Well, why isn't that being promulgated?
- 7:49SPEAKER_00: It's suppressed.
- 7:50SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 7:51SPEAKER_01: Have you been coming up against this for a while?
- 7:53SPEAKER_01: Of like people wanting to suppress this or not wanting this out there?
- 7:58SPEAKER_01: And what did that look like for you?
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: Even just uh presenting my work on social media or presenting my work on platforms that you you think this would go viral, my discoveries.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: It's suppressed.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: The algorithms are against me.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: I I can guarantee I've been at this now for 12 years publicly.
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Um, this should have been headline news a long time ago.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: And you know, you can't tell me that this is not a concerted effort to keep this type of technology undermined and suppressed.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: And that's what I've experienced.
- 8:27SPEAKER_00: And I've also presented my work to people, positions of prominence who should have paid attention to this.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: But for various reasons, those people in prominence do not.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: And they have their reasons, but suffice to say, this technology is suppressed.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: This technology can liberate mankind, but money and power are staying in the way, are standing in the way of this technology.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: So, how did you discover and create like the way that you use it?
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: What I've experienced now that I'll talk about in a little bit.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: Like, how did you come to that?
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: I was so fortunate to meet an American inventor.
- 9:04SPEAKER_00: The name is Galen Hieronymus.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: I never met him, but I met his wife.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: And he developed scalar energy instruments.
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: He's one of the few genuine scalar energy researchers.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: You have to be uh be able to create these instruments to control the energy, and then to be able to say that you have some type of ability and understanding.
- 9:24SPEAKER_00: So, to underscore this matter, very few scientists have ever been able to create these instruments.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: Well, Galen Hieronymus created scalar energy instruments, and back in the 90s, I was able to study under their family, so to speak.
- 9:37SPEAKER_00: And I was actually able to purchase scalar energy instruments.
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: They were primitive, but they still worked.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: Well, I built upon that technology, and today we have very powerful scalar energy instruments.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: So that's the, if you will, the chain of events.
- 9:51SPEAKER_00: Long story short, I had a head start.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Galen Hieronymus, this great American inventor, gave me that head start.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: I had a hands-on, if you will, application with the Hieronymous instruments.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: I learned how to use scalar energy from this favorable uh outcome.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: And in so doing, I'm I'm able now to speak in some fluently, I believe, as to how this energy can be used, channeled, manipulated, and how this technology will change our lives.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: So, how can we use it and how can it change our lives?
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: If scalar energy carries the instructions of the universe, there's there's millions of applications because we see those millions of applications in nature.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Now, I've developed instruments that serve to balance the brainwaves or balance the chakras.
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: I want to make this clear to you, audience.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: When I work with people, I work with people by way of a photograph.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: People email me a photograph and I actually place a photograph.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: This is my photograph, I place an emailed photograph inside my instrument.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: So my instrument looks at the energy on the photograph and can access the quantum dimension.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: Well, that's consciousness.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: That's qi or that's zero point energy.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: That's what we're working with.
- 11:06SPEAKER_00: So I'm working through the medium of a photograph of a person or animal.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: I can I can access the quantum dimension.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: It's not electricity.
- 11:14SPEAKER_00: And in so doing, I can balance the seven chakras, I can balance the brain waves.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: And what does that mean?
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: People are much calmer.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: Sometimes we can see people, their depression is improved, or or they no longer have depression or anxiety.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: Others tell me that they had a drinking problem or a drug problem, and they no longer have a desire for alcohol or for recreational drugs.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: So that's just one of the functions that we're able to impart upon a photograph, access the quantum dimension, and then people from that quantum experience, by way of their testimony, say, yes, this has served to improve my emotional outlook.
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: This has served to address a psychological problem that I yeah.
- 11:58SPEAKER_01: So I'll just say for me, because I I think I'm on day nine or 10 of getting it every day.
- 12:06SPEAKER_01: Also, my kids and my dog are getting it.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: I tried to get my husband to sign up.
- 12:11SPEAKER_01: He hasn't signed up yet.
- 12:12SPEAKER_01: But I have to say, so I was having since probably October, I was having this chronic issue with my lips where they were like super dry and like irritated.
- 12:24SPEAKER_01: And I was getting a lot of like fever blisters.
- 12:26SPEAKER_01: And I had never experienced that very much in my life.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: And I know I was going through a lot of emotional transition and a lot of just changes in my life, but I was having this thing happen and it was so uncomfortable and so painful.
- 12:40SPEAKER_01: And I did not know what to do.
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: I was taking different supplements to try to handle it.
- 12:46SPEAKER_01: And I was like trying to deal with it on like an emotional level.
- 12:50SPEAKER_01: Like it was really driving me nuts.
- 12:53SPEAKER_01: And I think you started the scalar energy with me on a Saturday.
- 12:58SPEAKER_01: And by Sunday, I think it was probably about a full 24, like maybe a day and a half, I guess I would say.
- 13:06SPEAKER_01: It was completely better.
- 13:08SPEAKER_01: Like not even a remnant of any of it left where because I was having like all the skin peeling off of my lips and like fever blisters, and it was like burning and it's completely gone.
- 13:22SPEAKER_01: And it was within less than 48 hours where it was like it, I've never experienced something heal so quickly in my life, you know, just even with anything like cuts or whatever, like anything.
- 13:36SPEAKER_01: I've never experienced something healing that quickly.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh my God, this is really something.
- 13:42SPEAKER_01: So I've experienced how quickly it shifts.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: And also I've noticed for myself too a shift in my emotional outlook, I guess you could say, and a shift in like anxiety.
- 13:56SPEAKER_01: And then also I definitely think my kids were having their own little reactions to it because they both right after it happened, they both got colds and like not really bad colds, but you could tell their body was kind of like detoxing or like moving through something because they both kind of got stuffed up, had mucus, and then it it cleared almost, you know, within 72 hours for both of them.
- 14:20SPEAKER_01: But I feel like they were having a little bit of like a detox reaction to it.
- 14:24SPEAKER_01: My dog, I don't know.
- 14:27SPEAKER_01: But he's he's like full of energy, uh, and you know, and he's just whatever, always happy.
- 14:35SPEAKER_01: So I can't really tell with him.
- 14:37SPEAKER_01: But I have to say, I definitely noticed these huge shifts.
- 14:40SPEAKER_01: So it's pretty amazing.
- 14:41SPEAKER_00: It is.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: And why is it amazing?
- 14:44SPEAKER_00: I I firmly believe this is a divine intelligence, a divine energy.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: You know, for me to be able to look at a photograph, so to speak, with my instrument, and the instrument can pick up a microbe, a virus, or a bacterium in the quantum field on the photograph and then break apart or send the instructions to transmute, disassemble that virus or that bacterium.
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: Now keep in mind we only work with photographs.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: So this is the quantum field, this is the intelligence field.
- 15:11SPEAKER_00: We don't work with physical reality, we just send instructions.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: And those instructions, you felt those instructions, those instructions essentially transmuted, broke down, disassembled viruses, bacteria, fungi that may have led to your lip condition.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's so wild.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: So, what are some other things that people have healed from or shifts that people have made?
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: I mention this now frequently.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: Back in 2017, 2018, I started receiving photographs from around the world, Christian missionaries.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: We were working with a mission in Tanzania, an HIV clinic in Tanzania, and we waited for the results and which are the testimonies.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: Well, after working with this HIV clinic last year, late last year and in 2021, we received reports from these people in Tanzania.
- 16:01SPEAKER_00: And bear in mind they only sent me their photograph.
- 16:04SPEAKER_00: Everybody that was treated with scalar energy by way of their photograph, everybody is not detectable, no viral load for HIV.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: And all of these people have gone back to work, they're healthy, they prepared a testimony for us, a written testimony or an oral testimony, as you did.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: And that's the science right now.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: The science really can only be predicated upon people's indication, their testimony, their first hand experience.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: And why do I say that?
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: Well, you can't perform a double blind test on a photograph.
- 16:35SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: You can't perform a clinical trial on a photograph.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: The party to the action is the photograph.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: So this is a new science that does not have an existing protocol, which makes sense.
- 16:46SPEAKER_00: It's a new science.
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: We need a new way of interpreting data.
- 16:49SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 16:50SPEAKER_01: And also what's kind of coming to my mind too is it's kind of a not only a new science, and I guess this is the same thing, but it's like a new way of even like interpreting reality.
- 17:01SPEAKER_01: So if you look at, you know, what we traditionally look at as like the germ theory or like bacteria and stuff like that, this kind of like blows that out of the water because this is just looking at that the old way, the old paradigm is looking at purely physicality.
- 17:18SPEAKER_01: Yes, and this is like working in another realm.
- 17:21SPEAKER_01: So I feel like that's another reason why it's like totally different.
- 17:25SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is another realm.
- 17:27SPEAKER_00: What am I getting at?
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: Electricity and magnetism, the electromagnetic spectrum is one reality, and that's real.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: And that involves a physical presence or at least a manifestation of a physical present.
- 17:40SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is non-physical, it's pure spirit, it's the Holy Spirit, it's the spirit of God.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is non-physical, and it's another dimension, it's another reality.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: So there's two realities, there's two dimensions, and this scalar energy dimension, we're just starting to crack the surface.
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: We're just starting to realize what this really is.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: So would you say the difference between, because when you say we have like electromagnetic energy and then scalar energy, would electromagnetic energy be more physical, like physical energy?
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: It's the subsets.
- 18:15SPEAKER_00: Electricity and magnetism are a subset or a derivative of scalar energy.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: So scalar energy is the initial energy of the sun and the stars.
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: And after that energy leaves the stars, so to speak, it degrades into electricity and magnetism.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: And that's really an inferior type of energy.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: That's the electricity and magnetism are the secondary energy of the universe that experiences entropy, which is death or disease or decay.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: What do I mean?
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: Electricity and magnetism are not a constant signal.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: They always experience over time and over distance that weakening of the signal.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: Whereas scalar energy never weakens.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: So it's the steady state, it's the perfect signal.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: Right, because it never always just keeps going.
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 19:02SPEAKER_00: It's perpetual.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: It's perpetual energy.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: So then is that the same as like, you know, when we hear about the free energy, is this the same thing that could be used to essentially energize or power the entire planet?
- 19:14SPEAKER_00: Now consider oil, gas, even nuclear.
- 19:17SPEAKER_00: That is not perpetual.
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: That experiences entropy.
- 19:20SPEAKER_00: That because of a chemical breakdown, it loses its power, so to speak.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: It is limited in its power output.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: Whereas scalar energy is a perpetual energy, it never loses its signal, there's no entropy.
- 19:34SPEAKER_00: That's the free energy that we want.
- 19:36SPEAKER_00: This is going to save the planet, so to speak.
- 19:38SPEAKER_00: That's what people want.
- 19:39SPEAKER_00: This is going to save our environment.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: It's clean energy.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: There's no chemical residue.
- 19:45SPEAKER_00: There's no chemical reaction whatsoever.
- 19:47SPEAKER_00: I'm going to repeat that.
- 19:49SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy does not have this chemical reaction.
- 19:52SPEAKER_00: It's not a chemical.
- 19:53SPEAKER_00: Gas, oil, natural gas, that's all a chemical reaction.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: So scalar energy is from the sun and the stars, an infinite supply of energy.
- 20:02SPEAKER_00: It's clean.
- 20:03SPEAKER_00: There's no chemical residue, no carbon footprint.
- 20:07SPEAKER_00: This is it.
- 20:08SPEAKER_00: This is what we're looking for.
- 20:09SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 20:10SPEAKER_01: And then how do you see this evolving?
- 20:12SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know obviously we have the forces at play who obviously don't want this getting out for their own interests.
- 20:20SPEAKER_01: But beyond that, or even just including that, like how do you see this evolving in the future?
- 20:26SPEAKER_00: Because of people like you, because of this podcast.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: Now, mark my word, what I have is monumental.
- 20:33SPEAKER_00: My discoveries will serve to change the world, as that of my predecessors.
- 20:38SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is a viable technology.
- 20:42SPEAKER_00: Why aren't we using this?
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: Well, it's suppressed once again.
- 20:45SPEAKER_00: So, how do we get the message out?
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: As I said previously, social media has not been kind to me.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: The algorithms block anything, any mention of free energy.
- 20:54SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 20:55SPEAKER_00: Who's blocking that information?
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: Well, the existing status quo.
- 20:59SPEAKER_00: Those in power do not want this.
- 21:02SPEAKER_00: It challenges their power.
- 21:04SPEAKER_00: Scale energy challenges their money.
- 21:07SPEAKER_01: Right, because if everyone was able to have this on their own, like why did we need anybody else?
- 21:12SPEAKER_01: Right?
- 21:13SPEAKER_01: Everyone could be completely self-sustainable.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 21:16SPEAKER_01: So what have you kind of come up against?
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know you mentioned the social media stuff, but also just when trying to get this out there or talking to people, like what has kind of happened?
- 21:26SPEAKER_00: It's people, it's a grassroots effort.
- 21:29SPEAKER_00: People accept this.
- 21:30SPEAKER_00: And as of our conversation today, as of this date, no think tank, no university, no government agency, no business has ever approached me.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: It's it's amazing.
- 21:44SPEAKER_00: Hundreds of thousands of people have heard of our work.
- 21:47SPEAKER_00: All individuals are interested in what we're doing.
- 21:50SPEAKER_00: Hundreds of thousands of people, not one organization.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: Now consider that contradiction.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: Why do hundreds of thousands of people know about our work, but not one university?
- 22:00SPEAKER_00: Not one think tank, not one business, not one government agency, not one charity.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: It's just amazing the control that the media has over people.
- 22:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, it is crazy.
- 22:12SPEAKER_01: And it's crazy to think, because you know, we're we're kind of like supposed to think of like universities, for example, as wanting to find the newest ways of doing things or the next technology or the next step in our evolution.
- 22:27SPEAKER_01: And like here it is, but no one is doing anything about it.
- 22:32SPEAKER_01: And I guess obviously it's because it's not in their interests.
- 22:36SPEAKER_01: Can you kind of explain how you are operating now?
- 22:41SPEAKER_01: Like, I know obviously you do this for like for me, who I sent you my picture along with my kids and my dog, but like how else are you using this for people?
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: The best way to get the word out is by our website.
- 22:53SPEAKER_00: And thank God that we're not in any way encumbered by business or academia or any government.
- 22:59SPEAKER_00: So we just keep this with with people.
- 23:01SPEAKER_00: It's a grassroots movement.
- 23:03SPEAKER_00: The website is scalarlight.com.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: That's the only way we can rely upon to get the message out.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: And uh again, it's just by the effort of people like yourself, thank you, that help us carry this message to the world.
- 23:16SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:17SPEAKER_01: So is there anyone else who's doing this or using it in the same way or something similar?
- 23:23SPEAKER_00: Perhaps.
- 23:24SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: I'll say this these instruments take a certain knowledge.
- 23:28SPEAKER_00: To create an instrument, to engineer an instrument, it really takes knowledge.
- 23:32SPEAKER_00: And if you can do that on your own, you know, all power to you.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: You're you're a great inventor.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: I've looked around the world, I've looked at least on the internet, I don't know of anybody who has a scalar energy instrument that I know of, with the exception that there's one scientist by in Germany by the name of uh Konstantin Mell.
- 23:50SPEAKER_00: And uh I believe he he has an understanding of scalar energy, but I've you know I've never been able to interview him or or look at his instruments.
- 23:57SPEAKER_00: So, what is my point?
- 23:59SPEAKER_00: When you're concentrating, you're controlling this energy, scalar energy, it's not electricity, it's a different form of energy.
- 24:06SPEAKER_00: There's many electrical engineers who've looked at this work, and frankly, they're they're kind of baffled because they're looking for some type of voltage, which is the movement of electrons, right?
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: Some type of charge.
- 24:19SPEAKER_00: There is no electrical charge.
- 24:21SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is everywhere.
- 24:22SPEAKER_00: So instead of having a movement of electrons, you have the presence of God.
- 24:27SPEAKER_00: That's what scalar energy is.
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: This is why it's so vastly superior to electricity.
- 24:33SPEAKER_00: Electricity, you have to control these electrons.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: You have to harness this movement of electrons.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: Well, in scalar energy, you just control the presence of God, which is consciousness.
- 24:44SPEAKER_01: And then how does the instrument actually do that?
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: One of the ways I instruct the instrument is by way of a photograph.
- 24:50SPEAKER_00: I'm going to hold up a photograph of the herpes virus.
- 24:53SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: If I were to place this photograph of the herpes virus inside the instrument, the instrument would look at these genetic molecular structures of herpes by way of this magnified photograph, and then send the necessary energy to destroy, to break down those molecular bonds.
- 25:09SPEAKER_00: So it's non-physical.
- 25:10SPEAKER_00: We're sending energy by way of a photograph to destroy the molecular bonds that hold together a virus.
- 25:16SPEAKER_00: So everything is done by way of information.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: In other words, you simply, if you will, instruct the instrument to negate those hydrogen bonds, those covalent bonds that hold together the herpes virus.
- 25:29SPEAKER_00: And that's what happens.
- 25:30SPEAKER_00: It's the negation of the intelligence, the negation of a molecular bond.
- 25:35SPEAKER_00: What happens?
- 25:36SPEAKER_00: The herpes virus is transmuted.
- 25:39SPEAKER_00: It falls apart.
- 25:40SPEAKER_00: It's no longer a virus.
- 25:41SPEAKER_01: I do energy work, right?
- 25:43SPEAKER_01: And I work on an energetic level in the quantum field.
- 25:46SPEAKER_01: Mine's obviously a little less science-y and just more like what is coming through me, and I just naturally know what to do.
- 25:53SPEAKER_01: So I get it from that way.
- 25:55SPEAKER_01: And a lot of what I get too is a lot of what I'm doing for people is I'm raising their frequency.
- 26:00SPEAKER_01: So would you say that this is similar where you are affecting the frequency?
- 26:06SPEAKER_01: Because if this energy is pure consciousness, right?
- 26:08SPEAKER_01: It's like that high frequency God consciousness.
- 26:13SPEAKER_01: So is that essentially what's happening?
- 26:15SPEAKER_01: Is you're just changing the frequency.
- 26:18SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
- 26:19SPEAKER_00: And you you expressed it well.
- 26:22SPEAKER_00: You can do that by way of consciousness, a prayer, an admonition, etc.
- 26:27SPEAKER_00: Some people have healing hands.
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is emanating from a person's healing hands.
- 26:32SPEAKER_00: That's why somebody can touch you and heal you.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: That's that's what healing, the function of a healing hand is scalar energy.
- 26:39SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 26:39SPEAKER_00: That's the agent, that's the animating force.
- 26:42SPEAKER_00: Healing hands are scalar energy hands.
- 26:45SPEAKER_00: So now we see there's a rhyme and reason to faith healing.
- 26:49SPEAKER_00: There's a rhyme and reason to the fact that prayer is scalar energy or thought is scalar energy.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: They are instructions, and instructions are meaningful.
- 26:58SPEAKER_01: But like, what would you say is the difference?
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: Because obviously, I mean, at least in my experience, the instrument that you're using feels much more powerful than, say, if I was just like intending that my lips got better.
- 27:12SPEAKER_01: So, what would you say is the difference?
- 27:15SPEAKER_00: Let me say this before I get into it.
- 27:17SPEAKER_00: The human mind and the human heart are scalar energy vessels.
- 27:20SPEAKER_00: So we all have that ability to control, harness scalar energy.
- 27:24SPEAKER_00: And then it's just a matter of understanding how to use that energy, that God-given energy, through our mind, through our heart.
- 27:31SPEAKER_00: Now, in particular, one of the one of the functions that I've perfected with my instrument is to break down the molecular bonds of microbes.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: And in this case, I mentioned the herpes virus.
- 27:42SPEAKER_00: I have a guaranteed process in which by working with a photograph of a microbe, I can destroy the molecular bonds of a microbe.
- 27:49SPEAKER_00: So there's no guesswork in what I'm doing.
- 27:52SPEAKER_00: And the fact that we call it a pathogenic lens, I'm able to identify and target over hundreds of thousands of different microbes, germs.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: And because of that, I can guarantee the destruction or the transmutation of hundreds of thousands of species of microbes.
- 28:09SPEAKER_00: Well, the upshot is that people feel better.
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: And in your testimony, your first hand experience of how your lips improved in a short period of time is probably cause and effect as to the relationship.
- 28:22SPEAKER_00: The ability to eradicate microbes then leaves your lips without any type of cold sore.
- 28:28SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just interesting how quickly it happened.
- 28:32SPEAKER_01: So you're able to like see things like the microbes are able to transmute, right?
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: But like, are you aware of that when you're doing it, or is it just happening through the instrument?
- 28:44SPEAKER_00: It's happening through the instrument.
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 28:46SPEAKER_00: For instance, I'm using electricity now in this office.
- 28:50SPEAKER_00: Now, do I see the electrons?
- 28:52SPEAKER_00: No.
- 28:53SPEAKER_00: Is that electron theory valid?
- 28:55SPEAKER_00: Yes, in many ways.
- 28:57SPEAKER_00: So do I see scalar energy?
- 28:59SPEAKER_00: No.
- 29:00SPEAKER_00: Are my theories valid?
- 29:01SPEAKER_00: Well, I think my theories are valid in relationship to the cause and effect.
- 29:07SPEAKER_00: If I can see a favorable outcome and if there's a specific function that I perform with my instrument and I see a guaranteed outcome that's repeated, I can't tell you how many people have come to us and they said, Well, I had some type of viral infection.
- 29:21SPEAKER_00: You know, it could be any type of viral or bacterial infection.
- 29:24SPEAKER_00: And after a week or so, they say, I don't have those symptoms anymore.
- 29:29SPEAKER_00: Well, there's got to be something here.
- 29:31SPEAKER_00: There's thousands of testimonies on the website, and there's a commonality with many of those testimonies.
- 29:37SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: And it's all that they just don't have those symptoms anymore.
- 29:42SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 29:43SPEAKER_00: Well, the only distinguishing character is that they went on scalar when they had this shift in their terrain.
- 29:50SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 29:51SPEAKER_01: That's so incredibly wild.
- 29:53SPEAKER_01: So if you were to talk about this with, let's say, like a typical scientist, for example, like what and I'm sure you have, right?
- 30:02SPEAKER_01: Like, what is the feedback that you get?
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: Like, what would they say?
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: You know, many of them are very respectful.
- 30:08SPEAKER_00: But when I mention, I mean, I try to do this up front.
- 30:10SPEAKER_00: I say, look, I'm not working with the electromagnetic spectrum.
- 30:14SPEAKER_00: It's it's a different spectrum.
- 30:15SPEAKER_00: It's non-physical.
- 30:17SPEAKER_00: It's right now considered to be theoretical, but there is uh evidence that there is some type of information system.
- 30:24SPEAKER_00: They listen and they respect my work, but God bless them, they have no experience in this.
- 30:29SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 30:30SPEAKER_00: Nor would I expect them to have experience in this.
- 30:32SPEAKER_00: This is groundbreaking.
- 30:34SPEAKER_00: I'm one of the few pioneers out there today.
- 30:36SPEAKER_00: So, and until there's a body of language, the way to define our terms, and then to put those terms into use and to define the science, then and only then can we make progress.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: You know, keep in mind there is no common language.
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: You know, how how can I describe scalar energy if there's no uh agreed upon idiomatic expressions?
- 30:57SPEAKER_00: The words that I use are unique, they're neologisms, they're new terms and conditions.
- 31:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 31:03SPEAKER_01: So as far as, because I know this was obviously kind of inspired for you by Nikola Tesla.
- 31:09SPEAKER_01: Where did he, because I don't really like I know who he is, obviously, but that's like all I really know about him.
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: Like, what did he discover versus like what you're doing?
- 31:18SPEAKER_01: And where did he kind of like leave off versus like what you're doing now?
- 31:22SPEAKER_00: Tesla was a master both at AC electricity.
- 31:25SPEAKER_00: He's known as the father of AC electricity.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: But later in his career, he started working with wireless transmission of energy.
- 31:32SPEAKER_00: And this is where people just don't quite figure it out.
- 31:35SPEAKER_00: What he was working with AC electricity with wires, but eventually he discovered scalar energy and he knew that was wireless.
- 31:44SPEAKER_00: So later in his life, his inventions were wireless.
- 31:48SPEAKER_00: It's so obvious.
- 31:49SPEAKER_00: But people, you know, again, their the suppression is so great.
- 31:52SPEAKER_00: So Tessa actually had a wireless free energy tower in Long Island, New York.
- 31:58SPEAKER_00: And if you look at the photographs of that tower, there's no wires leading into the tower.
- 32:04SPEAKER_00: There's no power station.
- 32:05SPEAKER_00: This is back in the early 1900s.
- 32:07SPEAKER_00: It was it was country, it was a rural setting back then.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: So what was he doing on the outskirts of New York City?
- 32:14SPEAKER_00: He was building a free energy tower, and it worked.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: He was able to capture sun energy, star energy, and transmit wireless communication, wireless energy, scalar energy.
- 32:27SPEAKER_00: He was able to illuminate light bulbs by way of this wireless tower.
- 32:31SPEAKER_01: So then what is the difference between that and like the wireless that we have now, like for our phones and stuff?
- 32:37SPEAKER_00: The wireless that we have now, God bless, but it it you still depend upon satellites, satellite dishes, you still depend upon cell phone towers.
- 32:46SPEAKER_00: You know, this is my cell phone.
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: This signal is still an electromagnetic signal, you still depend upon a grid system, you still experience entropy.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: Whereas if this was a scalar energy phone, you would not need a satellite, you would not need a cell phone tower, and you would never drop a signal.
- 33:04SPEAKER_00: There's still a gigantic difference between wireless electromagnetic energy and scalar energy.
- 33:10SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 33:11SPEAKER_01: So then would you say you evolved what he had started?
- 33:16SPEAKER_00: So in my laboratory, I have a miniature Tesla tower.
- 33:21SPEAKER_00: Tesla was able to send energy around the world and illuminate objects.
- 33:25SPEAKER_00: I can send energy around the world by way of a person's photograph and illuminate their chakras.
- 33:32SPEAKER_00: So what Tesla did on a macro scale, I'm doing on a micro scale.
- 33:36SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: And then I know you have like different packages or things that people can do through the scalar energy.
- 33:44SPEAKER_01: So how does that work?
- 33:45SPEAKER_01: Like if it can you talk about that a little bit, like the different things people can do?
- 33:49SPEAKER_00: I have different uh programs because I want people to see the merit.
- 33:54SPEAKER_00: I want to prove to people that this has merit.
- 33:56SPEAKER_00: So we have a program of male and female hormones.
- 34:00SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 34:00SPEAKER_00: Because scalar energy will actually assemble male hormones or female hormones respectively.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: We have another program known as neurotransmitters, endorphins and neurotransmitters in which we can assemble endorphins and neurotransmitters.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: And people experience an emotional uplift when they are on endorphins and neurotransmitters.
- 34:20SPEAKER_00: So these different programs give people a sampling as to the ability, the benefits of scalar energy.
- 34:27SPEAKER_00: Now, I've just scratched the surface.
- 34:49SPEAKER_00: I want to prove to people that this works.
- 34:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, for someone like me, like I literally work with people remotely and do energy work on them remotely that works.
- 35:00SPEAKER_01: So it's not like I get it.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 35:03SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's kind of the same thing, it's just a different way of doing it, I guess.
- 35:09SPEAKER_01: I think for people, like even when I mention it to my husband, he's like, Well, I don't understand how that would work if I'm just giving my picture.
- 35:15SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, but he's worked with like an energy worker, right?
- 35:19SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, how is that different?
- 35:21SPEAKER_01: You know, but I think people are so programmed where it's it's like they think everything has to be physical, or and what do you say to that person?
- 35:32SPEAKER_00: If you look at the just the atomic model, and if you have a proton surrounded by electrons, 99.99% of that model is open space.
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: The proton in mass and the electron in mass are very minuscule.
- 35:48SPEAKER_00: So if God designed the universe and everything is made out of the physical world, is made out of atoms and molecules, and every atom and molecule, 99.999% is space or energy.
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: The rest is just a physical form.
- 36:03SPEAKER_00: Once people realize that the engine, the locomotive that drives the universe is intelligence, energy, light, and that physical forms are the byproduct or the caboose.
- 36:15SPEAKER_00: So I would much rather concentrate on the engine room, the locomotive, than the caboose.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a hundred percent.
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: I mean, I always say that too when it comes to the energy work that I do, because it's like we're getting to the core of it, right?
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: Like we're getting to the whatever it is.
- 36:31SPEAKER_01: Like, for example, and I wanted to ask you about this.
- 36:33SPEAKER_01: A lot of the work that I do is helping people move through trauma.
- 36:37SPEAKER_01: So, you know, what I'm doing is I'm getting to the core of what the trauma is on an energetic level, right?
- 36:44SPEAKER_01: And then shifting it on an energetic level.
- 36:46SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm guessing that this is kind of the same thing.
- 36:50SPEAKER_01: But for you, for somebody who, let's say, is experiencing PTSD or some kind of block or anxiety or whatever due to trauma, how would this help them?
- 37:02SPEAKER_00: I'll go back to the chakra balancing.
- 37:04SPEAKER_00: I actually uh take a person's photograph and I place it in the instrument for one hour.
- 37:08SPEAKER_00: That's a chakra balancing.
- 37:10SPEAKER_00: What happens?
- 37:11SPEAKER_00: Well, if we have brain waves, I construe that a brain wave is a scalar wave.
- 37:16SPEAKER_00: And we have seven chakras that spin.
- 37:18SPEAKER_00: Well, scalar energy is a spinning vortex.
- 37:21SPEAKER_00: So when we place your photograph in a scalar energy force field, it balances your brain waves, which are scalar waves, it balances your chakras, which are scalar vortices.
- 37:32SPEAKER_00: So the best way to perform a mental healing, a psychic healing, a spiritual healing is to go directly to the root, in which, if we have brain waves that are scalar, use a scalar energy instrument.
- 37:46SPEAKER_00: If we have seven chakras or meridians that are seven points of scalar energy, why not use a scalar energy instrument to correct those meridians, to correct those chakras?
- 37:56SPEAKER_00: So the tool for mental health, for psychic health, for psychological health is scalar energy.
- 38:04SPEAKER_01: And would you say too that not only could it help, obviously, people with their mental state and with trauma and stuff, but also as an activation of like their highest potential, let's say?
- 38:17SPEAKER_00: Yes, because if if this is energy from God and you can make that connection, or you can be, if you will, shrouded in God's glory with consciousness, with his light, that's the perfect steady state that you want.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: That's union with God.
- 38:33SPEAKER_00: Some people consider this the unifying principle.
- 38:36SPEAKER_00: It is.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: It is because it's a singular gesture.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: Scalar energy is a singular, it transcends time and space, and there's this singular holographic energy.
- 38:47SPEAKER_00: You unite with God with this energy.
- 38:50SPEAKER_00: It really is a uniting of man with God.
- 38:53SPEAKER_00: I firmly believe that scalar energy, everybody has scalar energy, and it's God's image.
- 38:58SPEAKER_00: I believe scalar energy is the image of God that everybody has.
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's really interesting to describe it that way.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: It has to be.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I get it.
- 39:07SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: So if what it's doing is serving to unify you with God or creator or that high level of consciousness, then when you're doing specific things, like say you're doing the chakra balancing or the hormones or whatever, are you just kind of saying, okay, this is what we're doing with this energy?
- 39:28SPEAKER_00: When I perform a chakra balancing, I say a prayer before the chakra balancing, I turn on the instrument, and then I literally walk away.
- 39:36SPEAKER_00: The instrument, the energy corrects the brainwaves, corrects our psyche, corrects our conscious.
- 39:42SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 39:43SPEAKER_01: So the energy just knows what to do.
- 39:45SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is self-directed.
- 39:48SPEAKER_00: Why would I tell God how to use his light?
- 39:50SPEAKER_00: I don't.
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: The energy, the light is the animating force.
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 39:56SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 39:57SPEAKER_01: So for somebody that is like interested in getting started with this, what would you recommend for them to do?
- 40:04SPEAKER_00: Try it out.
- 40:05SPEAKER_00: It's new, it's different.
- 40:06SPEAKER_00: We offer 15 days of free sessions to everybody in the world.
- 40:09SPEAKER_00: You're simply going to upload, email us your photograph once again.
- 40:13SPEAKER_00: And if you want, you can send us a photograph of family members or friends or your pets.
- 40:20SPEAKER_00: So it's scalarlike.com.
- 40:23SPEAKER_00: Visit the website, read about our process first.
- 40:26SPEAKER_00: And then if that makes sense to you, just send us your photograph.
- 40:29SPEAKER_00: And you know, hopefully you'll have a favorable outcome after 15 days.
- 40:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I did.
- 40:36SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure I definitely think you will.
- 40:39SPEAKER_01: I think especially if there's something specific that you know.
- 40:43SPEAKER_01: I mean, even if there's not something specific.
- 40:45SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me, I think it really helps just with my general well-being feeling and um less anxiety and just generally feeling better.
- 40:56SPEAKER_01: So I would definitely recommend that too.
- 40:59SPEAKER_01: And then, like, what is next for you in all of this?
- 41:03SPEAKER_01: Like, what is your next step or the next evolution that you are moving towards?
- 41:08SPEAKER_00: I want to, in the next few years, introduce us to the role.
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: The day is coming that I predict we'll receive collages from around the world.
- 41:16SPEAKER_00: I'm holding up a collage.
- 41:18SPEAKER_00: And the day is coming that we'll start treating half a million or a million people a day.
- 41:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:22SPEAKER_00: So once we do that, then there will be a groundswell of support.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: You know, there will be so many testimonies that people will say, well, there's some merit to it.
- 41:29SPEAKER_00: And then we can eventually go on.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: And one of my desires is to bring free energy to mankind to increase this energy output to be able to illuminate objects at a distance.
- 41:39SPEAKER_00: If we can do that, we don't need wires anymore.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: We don't need coal, we don't need oil.
- 41:45SPEAKER_00: We simply tap into sun energy in which we can illuminate the world.
- 41:49SPEAKER_00: So that will alleviate the energy crisis.
- 41:51SPEAKER_00: And in so doing, we'll correct the pollution that we have, or at least in some way, correct the pollution that we're experiencing.
- 41:59SPEAKER_01: And we don't really need hospitals either.
- 42:03SPEAKER_00: If everybody lived in a perfect scale energy force field, there would be no disease.
- 42:08SPEAKER_00: You would not age because it's perpetual energy and you would be in a state of perpetual health.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 42:14SPEAKER_01: Which again, we understand why there's people that have interests in us not being in a state of perpetual health.
- 42:21SPEAKER_00: That's the pushback that I that I've experienced and other researchers have experienced.
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: And it's a shame.
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: And to make this very clear, we the people suffer, and the elite, in order to hold on to their money, money, and power, they benefit by what?
- 42:35SPEAKER_00: By subjugating us, by suppressing this technology.
- 42:39SPEAKER_00: Technology is liberates mankind.
- 42:41SPEAKER_00: Look at your homes, look at your offices.
- 42:43SPEAKER_00: If you did not have technology, you'd be living underneath a tree in a hut.
- 42:47SPEAKER_00: So look what technology has done for us.
- 42:49SPEAKER_00: Well, don't let this technology be suppressed.
- 42:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I do think because you know there are so many changes happening on the planet, and I talk about this all the time, especially.
- 43:00SPEAKER_01: You can even see I'm super into following the astrology of what's happening right now.
- 43:05SPEAKER_01: And we're in the middle of a very big transition and a very big shift.
- 43:09SPEAKER_01: So I do feel like this is going to come out.
- 43:14SPEAKER_01: And I and I think people are aware that these solutions exist, but that they are being suppressed and there are people who are figuring things out, but it's not allowed, so to speak, in the mainstream because it goes against the narrative of that we need oil and coal to have energy, and then we also need medicine and pharmaceuticals in order to be quote unquote healthy, which is not really the case.
- 43:43SPEAKER_01: And I think those lies, for lack of a better word, are definitely being exposed more and more and more, and people are understanding that more than ever.
- 43:53SPEAKER_00: Sadly, you know, there's let me say this there's great men and women in the medical field, researchers, nurses, Physicians, we don't take anything away from them.
- 44:03SPEAKER_00: But this is beyond them.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: This is a supranational movement, which really the cabal is involved in, that dictates medical practices.
- 44:12SPEAKER_00: No physician or nurse can tell a hospital how to run.
- 44:16SPEAKER_00: But I can guarantee you, there's very powerful families like the Rockefellers that tell the medical community how that they want the medical community to be run.
- 44:25SPEAKER_00: And it's done by way of coercion.
- 44:27SPEAKER_00: It's done by way of coercion with money, with politics.
- 44:31SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely.
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: And like we've seen what happens, you know, with doctors that speak out and say how they really feel, and they're censored and silenced and made to look like wack-adoos or whatever.
- 44:44SPEAKER_01: I think it's more and more obvious to more and more people.
- 44:49SPEAKER_01: So I do believe that is going to shift and that people because as much as there is the effort to suppress and censor the truth about not just this, but a lot of things, people are realizing it, right?
- 45:03SPEAKER_01: And I think the more and more people that realize it, the more it's not going to matter.
- 45:08SPEAKER_00: As the saying goes, follow the money.
- 45:10SPEAKER_00: Well, who really benefits from this?
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: If you look at the billions upon billions of dollars that the Rockefellers have made by manipulating medicine, by controlling it with our chemical industry, by controlling the universities, by controlling the press.
- 45:24SPEAKER_00: Now, at the very top of the pyramid of this Rockefeller medical monopoly is just pride, greed, evil.
- 45:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, a hundred percent.
- 45:35SPEAKER_01: And I think like it's interesting because if you would have said that even like five years ago, I think people would have been like, oh, whatever.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: But now I think that's much more widely known and accepted.
- 45:47SPEAKER_01: Even if people aren't necessarily living in a way that reflects that understanding, I think more and more people do have that understanding, if that makes sense.
- 45:56SPEAKER_00: The world is waking up.
- 45:58SPEAKER_00: You know, all of this is well documented.
- 45:59SPEAKER_00: If if you really do your homework, don't necessarily listen to the nighttime news because the nighttime news is controlled by the Rockefellers.
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 46:08SPEAKER_00: If you really look into this, you see that there is a nefarious intent here, and it has nothing to do to help people.
- 46:15SPEAKER_00: I can guarantee you the Rockefeller family does not want to help mankind.
- 46:19SPEAKER_01: No.
- 46:20SPEAKER_00: They want to make money off of us, they want to subjugate us.
- 46:23SPEAKER_01: 100%.
- 46:24SPEAKER_01: And I think also what I'm noticing too is like people like me and people that are more tuned in, you can feel it.
- 46:31SPEAKER_01: When you watch politicians or you watch the news, like you can feel it.
- 46:37SPEAKER_01: It feels like they do not have our best interests at heart.
- 46:40SPEAKER_01: It feels like it's a low vibrational fear frequency trying to pull you in.
- 46:46SPEAKER_01: Like you can feel that.
- 46:48SPEAKER_01: And I think the only reason why people can't feel that is because they're so in fear.
- 46:53SPEAKER_01: They're so wrapped up in fear that they aren't connected to that higher consciousness, right?
- 47:00SPEAKER_01: So that's another reason why your work is so important because not only are you helping people heal, but you're helping them connect to the consciousness that they really are.
- 47:10SPEAKER_00: And you see how I'm not taking on the medical community.
- 47:13SPEAKER_00: I don't practice medicine.
- 47:15SPEAKER_00: I practice a new science that in many ways is so sublime, it's far above, far above medical science.
- 47:24SPEAKER_00: I don't consider myself a medical professional.
- 47:27SPEAKER_00: I consider myself a scalar energy researcher.
- 47:30SPEAKER_00: And my approach is through the quantum healing, not through physical healing.
- 47:35SPEAKER_00: There's no physicality in scalar energy, it's non-physical.
- 47:39SPEAKER_00: So my approach is an entirely new approach to healing of the quantum body.
- 47:44SPEAKER_01: Right, which is definitely the future.
- 47:46SPEAKER_01: I mean, as far as I can tell.
- 47:49SPEAKER_01: So I just have like kind of a funny question for you.
- 47:51SPEAKER_01: I'm just trying to like picture what it's like with your instruments and stuff like that.
- 47:56SPEAKER_01: Do you just have like a ton of pictures of people that you're constantly putting in these instruments every day?
- 48:01SPEAKER_01: Like, how does that work?
- 48:02SPEAKER_00: Yeah, today in my laboratory, I I treated at least a quarter of a million people.
- 48:07SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 48:08SPEAKER_00: Photographs can be miniaturized.
- 48:10SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 48:10SPEAKER_00: I receive photographs from Christian missionaries, from social activists around the world, not from their power structure, but these are concerned individuals.
- 48:20SPEAKER_00: So on any given week, I can receive two, three, four thousand photographs from India, two, three, four thousand photographs from Uganda.
- 48:29SPEAKER_00: Now you add that up, and after a month or two, you're you're working with a quarter of a million people.
- 48:35SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and just think about the impact that you're having.
- 48:38SPEAKER_01: I mean, whether or not at this point the universities and all of these controlled industries are censoring you or denying you, you're still having a huge impact.
- 48:49SPEAKER_01: If you're sending this energy to a quarter of a million people, that's like raising the frequency of the entire planet.
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: There you go.
- 48:57SPEAKER_00: So every day, a quarter of a million people have a chakra balancing.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: Every day, a quarter of a million people have a microbe cleanse, a pathogenic cleanse, or they receive nutrients in the quantum field.
- 49:08SPEAKER_00: So now you see the big picture.
- 49:10SPEAKER_00: One of my goals is to treat a billion people a year.
- 49:12SPEAKER_00: And if the world helps, all we need is people.
- 49:16SPEAKER_00: We don't need those evil organizations.
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 49:18SPEAKER_00: If the world helps and starts sending us photographs, the website has a 15-day free trial.
- 49:24SPEAKER_00: It's easy.
- 49:25SPEAKER_00: We can easily treat a billion people a year.
- 49:27SPEAKER_01: Oh, definitely.
- 49:28SPEAKER_01: And like that just will have such a huge impact on like the evolution of humanity.
- 49:36SPEAKER_00: That's the game changer.
- 49:37SPEAKER_00: So this is tenable.
- 49:38SPEAKER_00: This is not theory.
- 49:40SPEAKER_00: I practice this every day.
- 49:41SPEAKER_00: So if I can treat a quarter of a million people a day, and I am, then eventually I can treat 10 million people a day.
- 49:47SPEAKER_01: And how does people in, you know, you mentioned India and Uganda, like how do they find you?
- 49:52SPEAKER_00: Word of mouth.
- 49:53SPEAKER_00: Um, we we have some active agents in India, two or three agents in India, three or four agents in Africa.
- 50:00SPEAKER_00: And we do try and get the message out there.
- 50:02SPEAKER_00: You know, again, social media's not been kind to us, but word of mouth gets out there.
- 50:06SPEAKER_00: You know, if you can look at a this clinic in Tanzania and everybody that sent me their photograph no longer has HIV, well, the word is getting out.
- 50:15SPEAKER_00: Whether people understand it or not, if you send your photograph in, many people feel better than the word of mouth carries the movement.
- 50:23SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 50:24SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have to say, like once that thing happened with my lips, I think I told four or five people to do it.
- 50:30SPEAKER_01: And I think they did.
- 50:32SPEAKER_01: So, like just some clients and friends and stuff, especially if they were like, Oh, I'm going through this thing, you know, and I'd be like, Oh, you got to try this, you know.
- 50:41SPEAKER_01: So I think when people have a result with something, which is also mainly how I've built my business as well, with there's people who've gotten a result from working with me who then told someone else to do it, right?
- 50:53SPEAKER_01: And I think that is the best way that you can build something because people are like, Oh, well, that you got that result.
- 51:01SPEAKER_01: Of course I'm gonna do it, you know.
- 51:03SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 51:04SPEAKER_00: And that's it.
- 51:05SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, God bless the fact that we're a grassroots movement, nothing can stop it.
- 51:09SPEAKER_00: If I was working through one organization, you know, yeah, then I'd have to deal with a board of directors.
- 51:14SPEAKER_00: I don't.
- 51:15SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 51:16SPEAKER_01: So where can people find you?
- 51:18SPEAKER_01: Because I'm sure I know you mentioned your website, and I don't know if you are on social media, but can you give everyone the rundown about how they can find you and connect with you?
- 51:26SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 51:26SPEAKER_00: I I think the best thing, go to the website, scalarlight.com, S-C-A-L-A-R, ScalerLight.com.
- 51:33SPEAKER_00: And we have our various uh social media platforms on the website.
- 51:37SPEAKER_00: But visit our website, read a few articles, and then if you feel comfortable, upload your photograph.
- 51:43SPEAKER_00: It's rather conspicuous.
- 51:45SPEAKER_00: We have the 15-day trial um on our homepage.
- 51:48SPEAKER_00: No questions asked, there's no obligations, we don't ask for a credit card or debit card.
- 51:53SPEAKER_00: We prove to you that this is of merit.
- 51:56SPEAKER_00: And then after that, you you make a decision.
- 51:59SPEAKER_00: That's the simple, easy way to introduce this.
- 52:01SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely gonna do it after my trial's over.
- 52:06SPEAKER_01: Because now I'm like, well, I don't want to not have it in my life.
- 52:10SPEAKER_02: So thank you.
- 52:12SPEAKER_01: Yes, okay.
- 52:12SPEAKER_01: And then are you are you on social media at all?
- 52:15SPEAKER_01: I know you said it wasn't working for you.
- 52:17SPEAKER_00: We are Facebook, uh, Twitter, Instagram.
- 52:20SPEAKER_00: Just look up Scalar Light, Scalar Light Tom Paladino.
- 52:23SPEAKER_01: Okay, cool.
- 52:24SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
- 52:25SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll put all of that in the show notes.
- 52:27SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for being here.
- 52:29SPEAKER_01: This was a really like enlightening conversation and so important.
- 52:33SPEAKER_01: So I'm honored that you came on the show so we could share this message.
- 52:37SPEAKER_00: Thank you for helping us get the word out.
- 52:39SPEAKER_00: Mark my word, you're gonna hear about this in the next five to 10 years.
- 52:43SPEAKER_00: This technology is about to change the world for the better.
- 52:46SPEAKER_01: Oh, I I don't doubt it.
- 52:48SPEAKER_01: I think this is kind of what the next level is in the evolution of like technology and energy because we all know it needs to change, right?
- 52:58SPEAKER_01: Like we all can see that.
- 53:00SPEAKER_01: So I totally agree with you.
- 53:02SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much for being here, and we will all be connecting with you soon.
- 53:09SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for being here.
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