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Bucket of Book Club · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: To your.
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  Speaker 2: Stations, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 5: It's the Wild Rumpus Star!
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  Speaker 2: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian, and
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  Speaker 2: joining me once again from the magic of the internet is.
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  Speaker 1: Sam.
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  Speaker 4: I am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, You are sort of like a children's book.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: A weird, crazy children's book. Oh, dude. Otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Keep going.
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  Speaker 2: What's your sidetrack story?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, dude. Green eggs and ham, man. I have had
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  Speaker 1: so many arguments about green eggs and ham lately. I
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  Speaker 1: can't even get started, dude.
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  Speaker 2: I like that it's lately.
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  Speaker 1: No, lately. Lately. This is not something I had in
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  Speaker 1: first or second grade.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a journey lately, Brian. And I can
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  Speaker 1: let you finish your intro, but I do have a
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  Speaker 1: Green Eggs and Ham story.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we have no real intro when you're on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: At least let's get my name out in yours. And
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  Speaker 2: after that, it's a free-for-all. You know how these episodes go.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So, ladies and gentlemen, Green Eggs and Ham.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Green Eggs and Ham. Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Green Eggs and Ham. I recently got into a big
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  Speaker 1: argument with somebody about Green Eggs and Ham because I've
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  Speaker 1: always loved the story Green Eggs and Ham. When I
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  Speaker 1: read it to the kids, I would get a little
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  Speaker 1: choked up at the end when the old man says,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Sam I Am. I always just
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  Speaker 1: thought that was just this great moment, you know, of like, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I can't get stuck in familiar patterns. I need to
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  Speaker 1: learn to expand my horizon, okay?
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  Speaker 2: You're really connecting with the story now.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm reading into this as you also do.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, who knows the backstory here and everything.
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  Speaker 2: I know your life.
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  Speaker 7: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: The ways you have come to us.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So yeah, everything's become a metaphor.
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  Speaker 1: All right. But, uh, so I've always enjoyed that part
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  Speaker 1: of the story and everything. And then, um, and then
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  Speaker 1: I was reading it recently or I was discussing it with, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: my niece who is, uh, 25 and she started, she's.
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  Speaker 2: Really into literature at this point. Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So we were just talking about how a persistent, uh, suggestion, uh,
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  Speaker 1: can wear a person down and how you just hear
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  Speaker 1: something over and over and over and how basically cults
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  Speaker 1: and mind control work and and how you take uh
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  Speaker 1: something that somebody doesn't like oh brian you're going to
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  Speaker 1: read somebody into so much into this you take something
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  Speaker 1: you take something that somebody doesn't like or want or
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  Speaker 1: in need in their life all right and then you
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  Speaker 1: just keep punching away at it. How about with a fox?
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  Speaker 1: How about in a box? I'm like, still no. How
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  Speaker 1: about here? How about there? And then the story starts
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  Speaker 1: becoming about the system or a influence or a force
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  Speaker 1: or a religion or anything.
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  Speaker 7: The system in place of Methodically decontextualizing somebody's feelings until
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  Speaker 7: they're so worn out that in the end of Green
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  Speaker 7: Eggs and Ham, it's they.
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  Speaker 1: They give in to the system.
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  Speaker 2: They've worn him down.
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  Speaker 1: They've just beat him.
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  Speaker 2: Through the entire book to the point he's just like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? I don't even care anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell we were even going
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  Speaker 2: on about when we started this nonsense. That's right. And
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  Speaker 2: at this point, I just want it to end.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I might not even be talking about this. argument here.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to end. What do I do to
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  Speaker 1: make this stop? Exactly. To make Sam stop.
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Shut up, Sam. Is this Uncle Sam? I don't know. But.
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  Speaker 1: But Sam... Sam wears this guy down. And where I
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  Speaker 1: used to read the story as.
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  Speaker 1: As a thank you. Thank you, Sam I am. Now
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  Speaker 1: when I read the story, I see his dead, lifeless
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  Speaker 1: eyes slowly picking up the fork, cutting into it, taking
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  Speaker 1: a piece, eating it. Then he goes like, I like them.
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  Speaker 1: I like them, Sam. I like them, Sam I am.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Sam I am.
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  Speaker 2: Broken. beaten yeah yeah forever broken this is the end
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  Speaker 2: for me i finally tried it and it's i'm done.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like the ending of the book or the
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  Speaker 1: movie uh uh 1984 uh you know i always reference
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  Speaker 1: books that i never read but this one i've read
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  Speaker 1: but the the great thing at the end of 1984
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  Speaker 1: he is part of the system And he sold out
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  Speaker 1: his love and everything to become part of the system.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just what green eggs and ham is, man.
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  Speaker 1: the methodical and my niece was like yeah it's also
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  Speaker 1: about consent it's kind of like a guy trying to
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  Speaker 1: go after a gal and he goes like no I
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  Speaker 1: think you're my friend and he goes like well what
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  Speaker 1: if I was rich or what if I was cool
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  Speaker 1: or what about this or what if like your sister
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  Speaker 1: was in town or.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever you know laughing you sure you don't want to
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  Speaker 6: go out with me you sure you don't want to
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  Speaker 6: go out with me yeah right and eventually this girl's
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  Speaker 6: like oh my god if you will just stop and
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  Speaker 6: then they end up getting.
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  Speaker 2: Married and like for the rest of her life she's
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  Speaker 2: just like oh he just he wore me down before
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  Speaker 2: they're like yeah i didn't really even like him but
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  Speaker 2: like he just he was just there and it just
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  Speaker 2: wore down eventually and Then it was just, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, what do we get married now? People give
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  Speaker 2: me this as their life. And I'm like, wow, my
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  Speaker 2: life's sad, but shit, that's terrible.
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  Speaker 5: Dude, for real.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that one's better than the other, but
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty sad, man. Just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Trapped in a prison of politeness. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, well, I didn't want to be rude,
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  Speaker 1: so I married him.
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  Speaker 2: Um again especially the cards are back you go in
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  Speaker 2: generations yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well then oh tim asked me to marry him i'll
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  Speaker 1: guess i'll pick out a wedding dress do you like
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  Speaker 1: tim what does that have to do with anything i've
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  Speaker 1: been sure i mean i'm.
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  Speaker 2: Special i don't have any better options so i guess
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  Speaker 2: i don't want to Be that old man of 23
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  Speaker 2: and I better just marry this dude because he's, you know, here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. That caused a big argument.
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  Speaker 2: Magical. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I told that story recently and it. cause ripples of like,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Why do you take everything good
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  Speaker 1: and wonderful and destroy it?
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  Speaker 2: You're like, that's what I do. That's what I do. Well, again,
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  Speaker 2: if we want to kick it off with literature, which
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  Speaker 2: does not happen much on this show.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, yes. Welcome to LiteratureCast.
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  Speaker 2: Well, again, if we're taking kids' books... And then being like, no,
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  Speaker 2: there's kind of a real listen here, pay attention. Because
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  Speaker 2: I used to, I used to I'll say well I'll
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  Speaker 2: know this person I won't name them by name but
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  Speaker 2: they're not listening they don't care but anyway she's a
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  Speaker 2: mom and she had multiple children And, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: weren't quite often. I'm like, this wasn't a gunpoint. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you had these children. You're responsible for the things that
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  Speaker 2: led to these children. So to some extent, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear your complaints too much.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But still would quite often be like massively overwhelmed as
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  Speaker 2: most parents. And she was a single parent. So like
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  Speaker 2: massively overwhelmed. Right, right. But sometimes she would go a
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  Speaker 2: little far in the complaining. And like at one point
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  Speaker 2: I'm listening to and I'm like, read the giving tree.
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  Speaker 1: Oh dude dude you know what i'm talking about and
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  Speaker 1: i'm like look.
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  Speaker 2: Like don't be wrong i'm not i'm not like pitching
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  Speaker 2: for for shell because i think that dude's pretty weird
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  Speaker 2: like what little i know of his other work i'm
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  Speaker 2: like i'm not saying he's not talented but he's a
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  Speaker 2: weird dude but the one that kind of like throws
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  Speaker 2: out all the weirdness and like just tells a really
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  Speaker 2: simple story And then like, it's one of those things
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  Speaker 2: that as you grow up and you about their story,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, Oh shit. Like it is like, it is
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  Speaker 2: the most horribly accurate thing ever. It's just like, here,
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  Speaker 2: here is your job here. And now I'm references. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is one of those things that like
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  Speaker 2: carries over into your life. And I'm like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is it. Like you've had a child. For the rest
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  Speaker 2: of your life. Not while they're a dumb little kid.
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  Speaker 2: Not when they turn 18. The rest of your damn life.
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  Speaker 2: Your job. Is to take care of whatever they need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's times when they can go too far. And ask
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  Speaker 2: too much. But for the most part. Your job is
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  Speaker 2: to be like. Alright what do you need. And that's.
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  Speaker 2: For the rest of your life. Until you are once again. Beaten.
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  Speaker 2: And there's.
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  Speaker 1: And that's it.
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  Speaker 2: They'll still come back and be like well. There's my situation.
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  Speaker 2: Like I was like. God this is so horribly frighteningly accurate.
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  Speaker 2: Of life.
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  Speaker 1: No it's. Brian I was going to. I was hoping
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  Speaker 1: you were going to say giving tree. Because. Because.
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  Speaker 2: Because you have way more invested in it than I do.
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  Speaker 2: I just saw the truth and try to preach it
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  Speaker 2: to other people.
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  Speaker 1: No, I've got a little bit of a different read
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  Speaker 1: on that story. OK, because because kids, I would say
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  Speaker 1: you you it doesn't feel like a sacrifice. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a sacrifice, but it doesn't. For me, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: what else do I got to do?
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  Speaker 2: But even in the book, the tree doesn't really complain.
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, all right, here, take care of this.
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  Speaker 2: But as time goes on, I, being the bastard that
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  Speaker 2: I am, sound like more and more of like, wow.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, Jesus. This is insane.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. All right. Giving tree. All right. Yeah. I, in
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  Speaker 1: a nutshell, see... the giving tree on, on level one
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  Speaker 1: as a really fucked up story. Cause on the first,
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  Speaker 1: on the first, on the first level, on the highest level,
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  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be, I guess on the surface about
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  Speaker 1: unconditional love.
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  Speaker 2: It is true love for this kid and it never
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  Speaker 2: goes away. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Um, okay. So that's on the surface. Now you peel
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  Speaker 1: back a layer of the giving tree and, uh, you
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  Speaker 1: could say that it's also about love without boundaries, about
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  Speaker 1: not having a, a line that you won't cross when
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  Speaker 1: you love somebody. All right. This kind of, uh, selfless
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  Speaker 1: love that, uh, they talk about in, um, that they
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  Speaker 1: talk about in, uh, uh, Disney movies and, you know, romantic, perfect, Love,
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  Speaker 1: you know, conquers all love, you know. But the love,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's love without boundaries. And what happens is
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  Speaker 1: that tree loves that kid so complete, but unhealthily, unhealthily.
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  Speaker 1: We'll just say this is a very codependent relationship between
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  Speaker 1: the tree and this kid. This kid, like, brings... Brian,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be the funniest episode for you
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  Speaker 1: in the world. All right? You know the stories. So,
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  Speaker 1: this tree, this kid brings other people to make out
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  Speaker 1: in front of the tree. I mean... This kid abuses
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  Speaker 1: this tree psychologically and physically carving into it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then ripping it apart piece by piece by piece, taking, taking, taking.
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  Speaker 1: And this tree never says enough. This tree just says,
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  Speaker 1: keep taking, keep taking. I've got nothing left, but keep taking.
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  Speaker 1: And the kid doesn't say, thank you. The kid is
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  Speaker 1: a vampire that just sucks this tree down to a stump.
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  Speaker 1: And then when the tree's got nothing left, he comes
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  Speaker 1: back and goes like, guess what? I've wasted my life.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm, I've, all I've done is taken my entire life.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And absorbed and eaten my entire life. And now I
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  Speaker 1: can't do anything. But I'm now alone. And all I
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  Speaker 1: have is this person that I've decimated.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm still going to use you. The only thing
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  Speaker 2: you are good for now. I'm still going to use
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  Speaker 2: you for that. Because I am old and tired. There's
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  Speaker 2: only one thing left I can do. And you're good
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 1: And so now that it's all over and you're almost dead,
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  Speaker 1: I'm almost dead. I'm just going to put my butt
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  Speaker 1: on you. That's the last insult I can do to you.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm like, on that level, the story is
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  Speaker 1: a horror story, but it's a warning. It's a warning
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  Speaker 1: about how you can love somebody and they take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of that.
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  Speaker 2: Most definitely and see that's the thing i always use
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  Speaker 2: it as that example for parents who are just like
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  Speaker 2: oh my god why did i have these kids and
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  Speaker 2: i'm like what guess what it's not going anywhere it's
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  Speaker 2: not i won't use it for that i think it
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  Speaker 2: is like it is an amazing piece of literature because
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  Speaker 2: i the person that nobody wants to have children with
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  Speaker 2: so thank god i don't have any but I'm also
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  Speaker 2: coming at it from the other end and like the
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  Speaker 2: way that I've always had to connect with it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm that damn kid. And I spent my entire life
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  Speaker 2: and I don't have my shit together and things will
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  Speaker 2: fall apart. Who am I with? Who am I like shit?
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  Speaker 2: I have to go bother you again. I'm just like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm that kid. And yet I'm this far into my
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  Speaker 2: stupid life. I'm an old man now and I'm still
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  Speaker 2: not done with it. I'm still pestering other people because, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: can't get this shit together either. Hey, can I get
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  Speaker 2: some branches from you, man? Yeah, that's I'm that damn kid.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I hate that. And yet, that's
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  Speaker 2: how surprisingly, creepily accurate this book is. That it works
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  Speaker 2: on all of those levels. All of those different avenues
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  Speaker 2: and views and ways that you can take it to heart.
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  Speaker 2: It works. Like, damn you, Shell. You're a creepy dude.
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  Speaker 2: And you're with this master base.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. You look at his picture on the back
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  Speaker 1: of those books, he looks like.
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  Speaker 2: He's a creep!
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 1: So, so yeah, right. Yeah. You, you see it from
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  Speaker 1: that point of view, but you're not that kid and everything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that kid, but that kid, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not the kid all the time, hopefully, but there's many
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  Speaker 2: a time when I've been that dang kid.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know from a parent's point of view, if
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  Speaker 1: my kid doesn't matter their age, you know, from the
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  Speaker 1: tree point of view, Uh, the kid gets the kid.
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  Speaker 1: If the kid needs help, the kid needs help and
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  Speaker 1: everything doesn't matter if they're 48, doesn't matter if there's
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  Speaker 1: 62 and I'm, you know, a hundred.
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  Speaker 2: It is. Like I said, it's part of being a parent.
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  Speaker 2: It's never going to go away for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: your life. You're not only responsible for this kid, but
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  Speaker 2: they're going to show up. They're going to need something eventually.
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  Speaker 2: And you got to help them. Like that's how it works. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm going to say one more layer of giving tree. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I've just got to.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard hypothetically. All right. I got to be careful
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  Speaker 1: about saying this. All right. We've got Shel Silverstein as
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  Speaker 1: a national treasure. Sure. You know, you're not the first
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  Speaker 1: person who, when I say that goes like, what the hell? Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: All right. National treasure. Shel Silverstein. Um, So I'm just
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  Speaker 1: going to say there are, I'm just going to say
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  Speaker 1: in a total fictional world, once upon a time, there
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  Speaker 1: was a children's author, not Shel Silverstein. This is a
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  Speaker 1: made up person. And this made up children's author was
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  Speaker 1: a nudist who hung around his house with no clothes
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  Speaker 1: on and would always be in the hot tub. with
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  Speaker 1: no clothes on. And so this fictional made up never, uh,
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  Speaker 1: never existed in reality. Children's author may have had made
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  Speaker 1: improper advances to people, not under 10, but not 18.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that happens a lot more than should.
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  Speaker 1: So, if that fake made-up author wrote a book called
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  Speaker 1: The Giving Bush, The Giving Stick, The Giving Stick, that
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  Speaker 1: story could be about a person preying on innocent love.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Innocent, naive love. As I've said, he's a
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  Speaker 2: weird dude.
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  Speaker 1: He's a weird dude.
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  Speaker 2: I always thought so much of what was going on
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  Speaker 2: in those other books. I mean, again, to me, The
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  Speaker 2: Giving Tree was the outlier of like, well, this one's
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: not weird. It's just sad and depressing and horribly wrong
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: in many ways, but like not in the creepy way
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: that so many other ones are. But that is one
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of those things that even as a kid, what is
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the one with the kid in the bakery, the night
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: bakery or whatever that one is? I was trying to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: find it, but I don't know. Like, That one, I mean,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: the illustrations in the book, like, the kid, like, falls
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: out of his clothes at one point. You know how
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that happens. Right, right, right. So I'm like, in the
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: world we're in now, I'm like, I can't believe they
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: haven't already attacked him for that kind of shit anyway. So,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: plus all the weird shit in Where the Sidewalks. Well, dude.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: All kinds of weird stuff going on in that book.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Well, see, it's made me, like, go like, hmm, do
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I want to keep my editions of those books, you know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, cause I've really always loved them and, uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: always loved those books, those books of poetry and everything. And,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I, I kind of like rediscovered them later
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and I, I, I, uh, really enjoyed how counter-cultural they were,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and just like of the time, you know, uh,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it's like, why don't you take a bath, man? And
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he goes like, because of the wars that people fighting
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and the killing that's going on.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It's just a weirdo hippie, man.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just a weirdo hippie. And I was going like, man,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you don't hear weirdo hippie stuff anymore. And, uh, and,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and kids books, you know, I mean, it was just
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: like part of it, you know? And so, and so
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I like that aspect of it, but yeah. And I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: love the illustrations, you know, but, um, uh, yeah. Another,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you know, questionable, dubious person who, uh, you know, uh,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you know, if you look at them, you'd go like, stick,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: keep away from my children.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, weird.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: It looks like a deranged ice cream man, you know?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I don't trust it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I don't trust them at all. No, absolutely not.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: This is, uh, I mean, many a time back in
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the day, we'd, we'd enter into the episode with some
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: like unconventional geek activities. So yeah. Yeah. That's one of
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: those of like, hey, you've heard of books before, right?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right, right.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: You know, these are some of you, you might want
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to check out if you're like, you know, a small child.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But just don't listen to the horror show. We just
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: prescribed with either of those. So yeah, it's fine.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: No, two to keep off the, keep away from your kids.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Don't read your kids a gilving tree. It gives them
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: a completely warped, deranged view of love, you know?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Um yes yeah exactly yeah books yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah i keep saying i'm going to start reading books
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: uh more now that i've got readers and everything but
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: that has not happened.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Oh i know better i don't know how to read
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: i just know of these stories you know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah i miss walking around with uh trashy
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: horror paperbacks you know uh i used to always it
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: used it was the equivalent of scrolling your phone and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: everything you just You'd be somewhere, you'd break out your paperback,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you'd read a couple of chapters of Misery, and then, oh, hey,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: something's going on. You know, you'd put your book away.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You know, them days.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Just to clarify, I did find it, and it's not Shell.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: So I still think he's a weirdo, but that one
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'm describing is the Maurice dude. Maurice Sendak.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, Maurice Sendak. Dude, great. there's a great documentary I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: saw on.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude. Oldest thing I've ever said in
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: my life. There was a great documentary on that author
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: on PBS Frontline.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I think they just issued you your first
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: issue of AARP. It showed up on your porch right now.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But no, just to clarify, I don't want to send
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: out wrong information, but I loved Where the Wild Things
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Are as a kid. And if you want to cross over,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: that movie's awesome.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: It's not a bad movie, man.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: But he also wrote some weird stuff, too.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: It's hard to be a children's author, man.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: People are going to People are going to come down
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: on you even more than if you're a regular weirdo author.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep away from people's children
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: is what the... It's for the best, really. Keep the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: artists away from children. All right? That's basically the message here.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Just give me an art. I like art.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Just do it over there. Yeah, just do it over there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Just do it over there.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Just one of those solo weird artists that hangs out
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: in their loft somewhere.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: It's fine. Right, right, right. Just don't babysit the kids,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you know? Don't invite an artist to babysit your kids.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Just play it safe. No!
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: In the movies i mentioned the where the wild eggs
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: are movie so there you go have you seen any
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: movies lately.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Wow all right right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Right how that transition worked that was fantastic before we.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Just you know we just yeah throw all artists under
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the bus.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I like artists i'm a artist.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I love them too I'm going.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: To do some weird stuff that comes with it. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: defend it all the time, actually. I'm just like, there's
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that I think I will look
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: at and be like, that pretentious bullshit. But I will
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: be the first one to be like, but you keep
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: making it. Because if you can't make that, that means
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: this thing over here that I love and I think
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: is awesome that some other weirdo thinks is crap, I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: don't get. So it's like, no. It's like, you can't divide...
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: outside of legal firms like the basics of art like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: you can't make those calls like you have to be
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like everybody makes whatever art they want to make and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: right that's how we get cool stuff so.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: That's how we get cool stuff i definitely.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Will defend everybody make whatever art you want just just
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the legal basics you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: so just.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: A little human common decency yeah yeah you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Know if you've gone into bucket of blood territory you've
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: gone too far It's very true. People to make your sculptures.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: You've gone too far.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I love that movie.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: That is one that came to me lately. We can
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: talk about that real quick. I did watch Bucket of
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Blood probably about a month ago and first time seeing it. And,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of cool. You know, Roger Corman just
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: passing and everything. And I thought he was a vampire.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, Corman's never going, man. He's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: just going to going.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Go and go. He's got more ridiculous movies to produce.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Right, right. And when he talks, he's as sharp as ever.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: He really was. I listened to an interview that they
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: did just a couple of years before. He hadn't done
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: much before that, but he was still with it and
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: was like recalling memories from the fifties. Like they just happened.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And I was like, geez, unless that's crazy.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Unless that's just what he did the last, you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: three years of his life is just talk about his
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: days running new world pictures. And, and, you know, they
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: would just walk in, record a little bit and then
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: walk out.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: We got something for the death race, 2000 25th anniversary DVD.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: All right. Is he still talking? Yeah, he's still going, man.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Just, just, uh, As long as it's not 2050. That
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: was rough, man. We barely made it through that episode.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: We signed on to do that episode. and even i
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: who loves that original movie so much yeah i was
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: like wow this is.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Wow this is like i think this is right watch
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of bad movies Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thing is, the 1970s and 80s and 60s Roger Corman movies,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you know, they have a level because he was hiring
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: people who were hungry. And so they really did like
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: go in and and they there's a level of craftsmanship,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: even to the bad ones from that time period that
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you go like, oh, this still looks like a movie. Right.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: He's just like, all right, we got this set for
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: two more days. It's making a movie. Yes, it's feeding
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: off of the industry like a vampire, but at the
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: same time, it's like, look at that artistic drama. We
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: got this set for two more days. Look at this
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: movie of it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Shoot the hell out of it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the movies weren't bad. I mean, they weren't
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the best movies ever, but some of them really stick out.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: He batted as well as any major of which ones
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: would be remembered and not.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And I've always said, I respected him as a director.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I think if you go back and look at the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: stuff he actually directed, it's pretty solid. I think they
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: were better. He put a little more love into them
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: when it was one that he was directing. Definitely, as
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: time went on, towards the 2000s era, he was just
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: a businessman. He was showing up. He was setting up deals.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: There's no artistic integrity involved in those. He's just making
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: a buck at that point. The early ones that he
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: was still kind of helping to write and definitely guiding
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the story and direction wise. Like some of those visuals
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: are amazing. So like he put a lot of work
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: in when it was the early days and he was
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: really invested in them. So yeah, I was kind of
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: standing by him as a director, really as a producer,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: he just made money and he was good at it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I mean, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, he was good. And,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, his movies suffered as he realized how cheaply
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you could put out content like everybody has, you know.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That's kind of how we live today.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, Death Race 2050 or whatever it was, it
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, or Death Race 3000 or whatever they
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: called it. And you're just going like, well, yeah, you know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this is an IP that he can make a cool
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: box cover on. and it really doesn't even matter the movie,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: And, uh, good thing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Cause it was pretty bad.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem was there was no race. I think
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: they just were driving go-karts around a parking lot. It
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: seemed like that was a problem.
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, in the end had, I mean the, and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the Frankenstein mask was terrible. And, uh, I actually prefer the,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the Paul WSA Anderson, uh, uh, prison.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, those were rough, but like that first one
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: was at least still a movie. It was still, they kept,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: as they kept knocking off, like the ones that even
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: he didn't want anything to do with when they were
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: handing it off to other random dudes that just like
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: walk by in the street. Hey, you want to make
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a death race sequel?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Like they were just handing them out. But yeah, then
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: there were like three or four of those. And then
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Roger Corman came out, you know, it was like, Oh,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make my own sequel again. And like,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: that was his, that he was still attached to his
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: producer or executive producer or something. And yeah, it was rough.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Yeah. I don't think he was real concerned
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: about what was in these.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Oh no. He was going like, I need to pay
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: off this pool or something like that. I got alimony
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: payments or something. I don't know what it was, but, uh,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: but you know that wife.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: A long time she was pretty sharp too she that
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: last interview she was remembering stuff even more than he
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: was like she was really with it so they were
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they were still a power couple that far into into
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the run man.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah no they uh no cool guy he you know
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he never made any bones that he was you know
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: in in it for anything but the money and was
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: known for You know, he just thought movies had to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: be good up to a certain point, and then he
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: realized they didn't have to be good. They could just
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, it's a recognizable IP with a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: flashy new cover. I mean, that's all. He goes like,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: that will sell a million copies. It doesn't matter what
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is contained on the disc or on the file or
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: on the whatever, you know? Yeah.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: You know. Well, before we get too far away from
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: your take on the... bucket of blood and we can,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: we can get more of your take on it. But
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I just want to say like, as much as, I mean,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: we finally get Dick Miller in a lead role. So
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that's awesome.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But on top of that, like, even if I take
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: that and put it aside, cause I love Dick Miller. Um,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the fact that it's so like, it was one of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: those first ones and you know, Roger being on the
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: cutting edge of, you know, what was going on, what
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: was hip. to take on the beat generation yes and
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: like if there's one thing that as time's gone on
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: that i'll just love is seeing because again do i
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: really want to go back in time and hang out
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: with the beats probably not because they're all on fucking
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: heroin right right right probably it insufferable junkies yeah to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: see the beat generation filtered through pop culture and usually
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the most mainstream pop culture is so funny to me
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: i just love seeing that over the.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Years yeah yeah yeah it's basically showing the beat culture
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: at its dying breaths you know when it's become codified
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and uh formulaic and like you know kind of you
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: know where it's just become like a starting to become
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a parody of what it started, what it was meant
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: to be, you know?
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Most definitely.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's losing ground to the hippies. That's the thing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I always go like, eh, anytime, like even
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: now there are kids that are pretty much just the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: same as those hippies. And I'm always like, eh, nope,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: not for me. Like hippies were just never cool. Like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I get your peace and love part of it. That's cool.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: That's nice.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, you guys just, you need to take
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a bath, and that's too much patchouli, and for God's sake,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: those clothes. But, like, the beats were just freaking cool. Like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: everything else about them, other than their rampant drug use,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, they liked, you know, they dressed in black,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: and they looked cool, and they hung out at coffee
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: shops before it was fucking cool to hang out at
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: coffee shops. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Again, I'm an art geek. Like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: poetry is cool. There's some pretty bad beat poetry out there, but... Again,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: you gotta let the good stuff come with the bad. Absolutely.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I legitimately thought, outside of all the drug use, that, like...
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the beat kids that i've seen what little i've bothered
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: again i don't know how to read so it's not
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: like i'm going back reading those books but when i
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: see them on impressive things like the beverly hillbillies i'm
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like this is what i'm talking about.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Man these people seem cool right right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I mean don't be jealous who had his finger on
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the pulse of what was going on with the youth culture.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Right right right they seem chill and disconnected but not
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: like hippies yeah because they had like a They were
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: valuing art and literature and ideas and stuff. Well, that's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: what the stereotype was.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Again, the ideals of it, not just smoking weed and
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: having sex, which is all that hippies wanted, really. They
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: talk about peace and love, but mostly it's just the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: love of, hey, get in the back of my van
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: over here and let's do it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Let's have a love child. Right, right.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But there's so much more to the Beat Kids, because
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: they really.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Again, they were pretentious assholes, I'm sure. But there was
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: something bigger there that they were kind of striving for
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that I always appreciated.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Well, a life of the mind and everything is what
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: you what I the image I get from it or
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like expression and everything.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, throwing aside the usual, you know, they didn't
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: want to be the cookie cutter 50s family. You know,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: they didn't want to be Ozzie and Harriet. they were
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a bunch of weird kids. And they, again, they were
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: like the goths before it was a thing. I don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: want to do your dumb regular thing. I'm in the
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: dark shit, man. You guys just don't understand me. It
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: was like the, it was the goth kids before they
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: were goth kids. Sure.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Sure. Absolutely.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But it started, you know, with like, uh, people coming
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: out of the war with like trauma and, uh, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: shell shocked and drug problems. And, uh, or like, you know, uh,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you know, unfulfilled expectations and kind of a disillusionment.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: No wonder I'm drawn to these kids.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Right. And, and so that was kind of like,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and they, before, you know, Kerouac and Burroughs aren't dressed
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the same and like, uh, uh, sweaters and, uh, a beret,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: but like the hippies, you know, it became kind of, uh,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like punk or something. It became like codified
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and everything. So it's, it represented some cool stuff and everything,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: but you know, The people that were, you know, called
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the fathers, they didn't look like that. They just looked like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you know, just washed out people.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Burroughs, for God's sake. For God's sake. He
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: looked like a square.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: It's so funny that he became like so much in
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: that world. But I'm like, when you look at him,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you're like, whoa, that's not what I expected.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: He looks like my accountant. You know, he just looks
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: like a.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and your grandpa and your grandpa he was so much
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: older than you expected it to be even when it
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: started like he was older than the rest of those
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: guys that were the up-and-coming kids so yeah he's already
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: on the edge of that and just was always looked
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: so square.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah but just wrote things that make you
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like throw up on yourself i write things that make
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: people want to throw up and to have sex with
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the throw up.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: That's why my parents never understood me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But anyway, again, I think it's a really cool like that,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that movie. I mean, you can't ignore it. It's most
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: of what goes on in Bucket of Blood. It's like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: this weird little beat culture. So I really like that
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: we got a movie that's set in that, not as
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: a throwback, like we could do that now, but like
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: it was coming off of, you know, pretty, again, that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: was pretty early for at least being represented in pop culture.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: That was a pretty early version. And it's probably not
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: as cheesy as the ones by the time you get
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: to the TV shows. It's still a little weird and edgy.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: As much as you're going to get from, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: a silly horror movie.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a great setting to put a horror
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: movie in, you know? And, you know, I mean, it's,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you know, laughably a horror movie. But, I mean, it's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: really just kind of such a parody of, like, people's,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the importance of being important, you know, and everything. So
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: it's actually a really good story. I believe the writer
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: of that, and I'm just accessing my autism brain here, is,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's Charles Beaumont. And I just saw another
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: one of his movies have shown up on the free
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: service called Brain Dead. And that was produced posthumanously for him.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: But it was made in the 90s. It's got Bill
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Pullman and Bill Paxton and Bud Cort. Do you remember
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that one? It's got the weird.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to look. I just, yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I remember the cover now. I just brought it up
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I remember the cover. I don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: think I've seen it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Roger Corman produced and it's like a good nineties Roger
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Corman because yeah, the script had been laying around for
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: 30 years, you know, so it's really good. And, um, but, uh,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's, it's got, it's like one of those
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: mind fuck movies, you know, where you're just like, uh,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: going down, uh, uh, what's real, what's not. And if
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: people keep changing, uh, identities, I mean, it's really cool. And, uh, just, uh,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: from the unreliable narrator or a completely, uh, subjective narrator,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you know, narrator. And, uh, so yeah, I definitely recommend
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that if you haven't seen it, it's, it's good. It's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: very 1990, you know, uh, Uh, and the, uh, yeah,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the right. Anyway, nevermind. It's a fantastic movie. You should
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: totally see it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Uh, one more for the list.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he wrote that really weird twilight zone, uh, uh,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: called the howling man when it takes place in a monastery.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's shot on video. I've never watched it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole season where they were shooting it on
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the video, it's just so unnerving. It just looks so different.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that look, but it doesn't
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: look like Twilight Zone. It feels like, you know, a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: PBS Masterpiece Theater or something presents the Twilight Zone.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: It's just like a presentation that went with Art Carney
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: every year I see it. I'm just like, it just
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: looks like a... We're showing this presentation of a thing
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: we shot at the mall last week on the video
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: camera that was up there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look professional.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: It's like when you go into a friend's house or something,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: you're going to watch a movie, and they've got that
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: real screen setting or super smooth setting on their TV.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And you're just going like, how are you watching? Yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: movies with the setting on it all looks like a
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: terrible soap opera. You know, they go, what are you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: talking about? Like, look at it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Look at it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: It doesn't move right. We're not watching this movie with
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the setting on the TV. Give me your remote. And
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: then I start going through the remote, you know, let's
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: go to the setting. Where's that stupid setting? They go like, man,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you're going to mess up my TV.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: You're like, shut up. Shut up.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: We're not watching this movie in smooth scan mode. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with you.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Any of those when they got too fancy for their
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: own good, like that first wave of HD that I saw. Yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And like the, the first thing that really bought into
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: it was like live sports.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Watching it on probably a thing at the screen at
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the freaking circuit city or something. And they've got football
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: from somewhere being beamed in and it just looks so unnatural.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like it's just weird.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, what? is this? And how do I
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: not watch movies like this?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But people put that on there. It's like
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: high frame rate or something. And it's just like, wow,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you've been watching movies and shows on this with this setting.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Holy cow you poor sick bastard am.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I related only because i've seen this a lot in
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the last week and i wanted to get your take
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: on it right have you seen people posting images from
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: these new like super 4k extra high def release that
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: just came out but they're using ai to like fix
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: things in it to like smooth out any edges because
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: they want everything to be smooth and look perfect and
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: they're using ai to do it what so there's like
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: a version of i don't think it's original they it's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: like they took the they recently re-released a super redone
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: version of jaws 3d and jaws the revenge but people
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: are like freezing And they're like, the people in the stands,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: like on Jaws 3, there'll be a shot of people
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: in the stands, and they have those weird monster faces
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: that when you plug shit into AI, like I'm probably
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: going to do for this episode. but it's like, it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: like when you plug in a bunch of nonsense into
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: AI and be like, me a scary image, or you
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: don't even have to tell it to make it scary.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: It just makes you a horror face that like looks
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: just enough human to be disturbing, but doesn't look like
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: an actual person. It looks like a zombie of some sort.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: And that's, what's in the background, but on these blue
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: rays that are coming out, that's what, that's what it
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: looks like now. And it's like, is nobody checking before
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: you're slapping it in the cellophane and putting it out
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: on the shelf somewhere.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: So I didn't know if you'd.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Seen any of this. No, this is kind of blowing
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: my mind. I don't really understand half of what you
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: just said. I'm trying to understand that they took Jaws
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: 3D and Jaws 3D.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The best of the series, obviously.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: They're trying it out, and they're doing a super 4K version.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And then the studio is using AI to add detail
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that wasn't there.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Isn't that nice of them? Mm-hmm.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Are you joking?
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I'm finding an image. I'm going to send it to
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: you now so you can see what I'm talking about.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Are you saying that George Lucas tinkering around with Star
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Wars is just going to be the norm? The movies
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that you have grown and loved and like just the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: way they are, like Jaws 3 and Jaws the Revenge,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be able to get a decent
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: copy of Jaws the Revenge.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know you're a little upset about that part
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: of it more than anything. Okay, I found at least
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the one that keeps coming up that I saw. Let
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: me see if I can send it here.
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Zoom in on some of those people's faces. There's a
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: worse one, too. Let me see if I can find it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: There's another one that showed up that's just like, what
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the hell are they doing?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got weird monster. Yeah, they've got those weird
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: distorto faces. But you would have to pause the movie, right?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: And zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: zoom in.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming, but still, this is what they're doing. And like,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: nobody cares or is checking this kind of crap.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, I don't like that. I don't like it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are they going to do? I mean,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: are they going to, they, all right. When the DVD
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: first came out, all right. For me, it was distracting.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Because I was used to crap on crap.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I like grainy on top of grainy on top of grainy.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And when I first started watching DVD, I was
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: going like, I don't like this. This is like, whatchamacallit,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I can see the makeup strokes on their faces.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: There's another horror show I just added on there.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And I was... Oh, that's messed up.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, messed up. Like it's a nightmare. And I'm like,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: why would you do that to your movie? Like you're
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: the studio. You own this property. Why would you mess
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: with it and do that?
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Do that. I mean, they're obviously testing it out on.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Masterpieces like Jaws 3D and Jaws the Revenge.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Nobody gives two shits about.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: The hell are you saying?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jaws 3D.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Jaws 3D.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it's got your Leah Thompson in it, but Jaws.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably what sold me, but.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, well... It's just.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Really kind of a fun story, like... taking Jaws and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: jamming it into SeaWorld is a fun story.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, uh, whatchamacallit, it's kind of like, uh,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: something Michael Crichton would do.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is sort of like, you know, here's
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: the most dumb thing we could do. What if we
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: put a bunch of sharks in here with all these
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: stupid people?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right. What if there was, like, a city
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: underwater and Jaws was coming at them, you know? Um, uh,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Jaws at SeaWorld. I mean, it's actually a sick, sick joke,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: you know? Um... Those, those, those, those great, those, uh,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: orcas would be like, please kill me. Please kill me.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Please get me out of here.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: One way or the other. Get me out of here, man.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. Jaws 3D should have made an intrusion on
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: that Blackfish documentary on Netflix. Oh my gosh. What was the...
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So Jaws 3D was the first movie. I saw it
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: when I was eight years old in the theater. My
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: mom took me. We sat, we put on the 3D
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: glasses and.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: What happened about 45 minutes into the movie? It was
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the first time in a movie theater ever. I said,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: this isn't very good.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Damn you. How can you say that?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: And I was eight and I was going like, man,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I was really excited about this. I remember at the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: beginning of Jaws 3D, they had a trailer for Metal Storm,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the destruction of Jared Sin. Do you remember that one?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: This explains a lot about you.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, right, right. That Charles Band movie? Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: You were excited about Metal Star.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Dude, I was like, Metal Star. I was excited about Megaforce,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and they never took me, and then I watched it
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: years later, and I was like, oh, God. Yeah, well, yeah,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: my parents had some.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I've just recently seen that, and I'm like, what?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: What was going on?
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Whoa. Whoa.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Not everything could be a blockbuster, you know. Yeah, yeah, so.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Bucket of Blood. Or Jaws 3D. Jaws Revenge. No, AI stuff.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: There is a guy named Damon Packard who made a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: great underground film maybe in the early 2000s called Reflections
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: of Evil. Now, Reflections of Evil, I don't know where
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you see it. You probably can see it online on
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: his YouTube channel. I got like a bootleg DVD of it.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And it's basically like this guy spent all his money
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and made this movie. And back when it was like
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: crazy to do that. And he made this movie called
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Reflections of Evil, which has some of these great, great,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: great ideas in it. And great homages. There is a
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: scene where he shows a young Steven Spielberg directing his
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: first TV movie. called Something Evil, which is a real
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: thing Spielberg did. And they got the Spielberg lookalike, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: they're showing him making this movie in Reflections of Evil.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It's just the funniest damn thing you've ever seen in
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: your life, all right? And he's always taking pot shots
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: at Spielberg and Lucas because he's our age. And Damon
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Packard made this movie. It is great. It is great.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And a big fan of his. From that movie. But
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's, like, you know, probably a crazy person.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: And it's called The Fablemans, you say, right?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: No, no! Which I loved. I loved that movie. Spielberg
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: is back. And Damon Packard then, now he, but now
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Damon Packard has, like, gotten into, like, AI. And so
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: it's just crazy ideas that he's making on these AI programs.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And so he made, like, A typical day in John
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Carpenter's life. And it's the funniest damn thing you ever saw.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Because John Carpenter recently directed an episode of some TV
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: show from his couch. You know, they just set up
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: cameras around him. He goes like, I'm not getting up.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting down the bong. I'm watching basketball. I
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: will direct your stupid TV show if I don't have
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to leave the house. And they said like, we can
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: make that happen, John Carpenter. So he's kind of making
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: fun of that, and he's kind of making fun of
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: how much John Carpenter smokes, and just like what a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: recluse John Carpenter has become. And, you know, it's got
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that weird uncanny valley AI thing, and just like there's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: cigarette butts everywhere, you know?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And they're morphing and moving like water around John Carpenter
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: as he's directing from a computer. And, you know, he's like, oh, sorry,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: my cleaning ladies day off. Now punch into a number two.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: It's a true love letter to John Carpenter.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: It is a true love letter. John Carpenter is my hero.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: He's bitter and old, but he's pretty cool. How long
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: have we been talking?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Six or eight hours. That's how it always is. You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: And yet we've gotten to one movie that we've seen.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: We watched Bucket of Blood.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Bucket of Blood. This is the Bucket of Blood episode, everybody. Yes,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: I did watch that a few weeks ago. What movie
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: did you say you watched?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Well, I was going to, in particular, I was almost
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: trying to lure you into watching them. You're probably half
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: relieved that we didn't go down that road and we
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: just went for this free-for-all mode.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: But first I will describe, and as I've said on
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: this episode and many, many before, as the old man
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: that I am, I'm still picking up physical media.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: But this is what won me over. I saw this
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: when I'm in my secondhand... Physical media store. And I
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: see this and I don't even on the spine. I'm
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: not even sure what it says. It's kind of, it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: got two titles, so it's hard to make out. So
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: I pull it out on the cover without even getting
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: to the titles of the movie. They're way down here,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: much smaller. It says at the top in giant letters. Oh,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, obviously I, I need, I need this.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what this is, but right. So
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: then you go down here. It is a double feature.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: That is the... First one is The Million Eyes of Sumeru.
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: Whoa.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I like that title.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And the second is The Girl from Rio.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Now, these... Even as I'm looking at them, I'm like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure these are like weird Italian movies that
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: they've just imported over here. And I probably don't have
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: to read. Yeah. All right. Dubbing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: That's what I kind of... I'm... sadly enjoying dubbing more
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: than i should on anything i watch anymore with sure
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: sure it's just so much fun i'm sorry it is
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: i know real film nerds hate that but i'm not.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Okay it's so funny i don't want to.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Read and it's still enjoyable especially when it's a ridiculous
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: movie like these are yeah but um so and i
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: was like this is 19 the first one is 1967
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, I think I'm going to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: especially I don't read much of this because, again, reading,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: but I'm just kind of scanning the back here. And
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: the only thing I see is like this lady and
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: world domination in both movies. She's trying to take over
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the world. I'm like, obviously, I'm going to have to
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: see these. Right. So I have in the last like
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: two weeks or so watched both of them.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: OK. OK.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: So I will, uh, again, I'd say spoiler alert for these.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know that you can. Yeah.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: These, but this was the thing that won me over.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: And I kind of feel like if you want to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: start a whole podcast on this, let me know. But
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I feel like, cause there's a billion podcasts out there
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: talking about those freaking James Bond movies. Don't get me wrong.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I've enjoyed many a James Bond movie. It's fine. They're great.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: But again, like everybody's talked them to death.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: To me, it's fascinating. The pop culture impact that I
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: guess those novels and then more specifically those movies had
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: on everything. From the time Dr. No hit the theater,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: everything began to change. Everything that came after it was
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: just aping the hell out of those movies.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It was like Star Wars.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Even when it started, it had that much impact. Everything
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: that came from the mid-60s on... was impacted by James Bond,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: and maybe nothing was as much until Star Wars came along. Like,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: there may have been no other weird, like, cultural, you know,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: blip on the radar there until you hit Star Wars,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: because everything, much again, so much so that everything to
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: the point where it was watered down and TV shows
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: were doing it, that Back to My Go-To, which, again,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: because it's on, constantly on me TV now, and the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: more I see the Beverly Hillbillies, I'm like, you know
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: how pretty solid shit because I didn't care that much
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: about it when I was a kid because I'm like
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: eh whatever backwoods hillbilly people this seems dumb like I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: didn't care about that part of it when I watch
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: it now I'm like it's actually pretty cleverly written because
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: they're not the butts of the joke like they're They're
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: this indirectly. They didn't even realize they're smarter than these stupid,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: shallow people of Beverly Hills. And like, they end up
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: like kind of getting one over on him every time
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: with their simple wisdom.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: So like, that's right. That's right.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Badly written. But they were one of those that was
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: around for so long and was so popular that they
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: hit all of the pop culture trends. So I just
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: recently saw one where, and it's always Jethro because he's
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the cool kid. So like there's one where he wants
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: to get in with the beat crowd and he wears
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: stupid beat clothes and goes into the coffee shop and
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: is trying to do poetry and they have to snap
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: at him. And like, it's exactly like checklist of all
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: your beat things that we're making fun of. And then
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: there's another one where he's a, he wants to be
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: a double spy. That is what he calls himself. But no,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: it just took over the pop culture so much. though
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: that it's in everything but that's my thing is like
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: there were so many movies that came out that people
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: don't even realize like there's the bigger there's your matt
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: helms and you know you've got the bigger titles that
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: were that kind of when you have like James Colburn
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: doing it, you know, it's like, it's a different, yeah,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: it's a different thing because it kind of had its
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: own following. It did it good enough. It got its
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: own following, but there's all these other ones that happened
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: around that time that nobody even read. Like they were
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: just cranking them out and the new one showed up
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: at the theater every week. And like, you just went
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: there because it's like, oh, cool, whatever. Like, you know, it's,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: it's like what kids were doing anyway at the point.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: But these are both one of those type of things.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: But the weird thing is, I guess the first one
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: isn't as weird. You just think maybe it was like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: a knockoff James Bond. The weird thing is with them
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: being sort of a series, it's like if we came
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: back for another movie and went, see what Dr. No's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: up to. I don't know what you're talking about. Let's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: get with him and see what he's doing now. Because
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: basically through these two movies we follow the villainous lady
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: that wants to take over the world in a James
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Watson movie.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So it's what she's doing in the first one. And
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: then we come back and they're calling her kind of
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: by a different name. But even on the back here,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: it's like it's still kind of a sequel. They're still
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: pretending like it's a sequel, but nobody refers to her
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: as the same name. Huh. She looks exactly the same anyway.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: So it's just like, well, I guess. I don't know.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: but I will say if, if you're only going to
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: watch one of them, the first one is so much fun.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, is it?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. And just classy. The million eyes is a cool title.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: And as you get into it, it's a cool movie.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Like if you're willing to put up with a silly
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: knockoff James Bond movie, it's pretty damn cool. And like,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I think this one to me is a little above
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: because it, It has. It's definitely... She's sort of immersed
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: in this Asian culture, even though she's a regular old
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: white lady.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Is this Scarlett Johansson?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: She can be that if she wants. That was a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: robot lady. I don't know. But the.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: It's immersed in that and like shot there. So like
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: the visuals are this really cool little like window into,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: into this culture at the time. If you take the dumb,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: like world domination plot out of it, it's just kind
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: of cool to see the locations and like the, most
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: of it was probably real buildings. And then they'd say
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: build and the costumes that everybody's wearing. It's just sort
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: of nice from that angle.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: But, But then on top of that, you get like
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: a crazy knockoff James Bond movie going on at the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: same time.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like that. I mean, that's kind of
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: what I like about Danger Diabolique. It's kind of of
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: its time and, you know, kind of a James Bond
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: style kind of movie, you know?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: But it's also pretty silly in the way that it
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: works in the James Bond, because she's like... She is
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: not winking at all. The lady that they got as
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: our lead, more or less, kind of, sort of, is
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Shirley Eaton, who is from... She's from Goldfinger. Really? I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: haven't watched it, but I'm pretty sure she's, like, the
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: main lady in Goldfinger.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: I think she's the.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the female Bond girl that gets to be, you know, the, the, yeah,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: she is.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: We won't say her name.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Jill Masterson, Jill Masterson from Goldfinger.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the character's name. She is.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I was thinking of the other character name. I was thinking.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It will get canceled if we say that name.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I think even then they kind of, they were talking to,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: they were talking to, that was the later one, actually.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, good.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Or any of them.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Dr.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Goodhead, you know, they're pretty subtle as they went on.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even, it makes Austin Powers seem subtle,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Even by the time we get to, like, Goldeneye, we
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: get an on-the-top.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just like.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Our last thing was on-the-top.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Right, right, it's, uh... Yeah, we're, the train, the machine
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: is running itself at that point, you know?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: The snake is eating its own tail.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, Shirley Eaton is our sort of eventually kind
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: of main character, even though she's the villain. But, yeah,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: that was like their in. Like, well, she's from James Bond,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: so this is, like, legit. Like, this is a real movie,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: like James Bond, because we've got her from James Bond.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: So you've got our sort of main guy is George Nader.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: So he's technically our Bond-esque guy.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: More impressively, and I think actually gets top billing, his
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: sidekick guy is Frankie Avalon.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: So you get a like late 60s, like coming out
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: of the beach movies. I need to do something else.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Frankie Avalon is just like a spoiled rich kid that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: like has nothing to do. Like his dad just has
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars. So he's just lounging around
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: on the beach where, you know, make it out with girls.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: And then when this James Bond dude comes along, he's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: just like gets into adventures. And the other guy's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I'll go with you. He's almost getting shot. A million
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: times getting into kung fu fights like you do when
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you're in a James Bond movie.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, dude.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: He's just rich and has nothing else to do.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Man, that was hilarious. Yeah, I like the casual-ass atmosphere
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: of those movies.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this more than most, I feel like, because George
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Nader does not seem like he gives a rat's ass
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: about his mission. He's cool and relaxed about it, but
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, he's going to get
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: business taken care of. No matter who's playing him, they're
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: all still professional enough. They're like, well, I got to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: do this. I got to go kick somebody's ass, and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: they get the mission taken care of. This dude seems
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: like he could care less. Yeah. He's just like, oh, okay,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I guess I gotta go over here now.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Like, It's a very Italian kind of atmosphere. Oh, we'll
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: get to it later, you know? It's not like a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: driven A-type personality kind of movies, you know?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: But there's even, like, the main guy that sort of
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: shows up is this British guy who's still kind of
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: giving him his, like, oh, well, we'd like you to
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: go look into this over here. So he's sort of
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: the M of this little outfit that, like, He's just
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: there on quote-unquote vacation. He's not really here.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't tell you to go do this.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: But if you wanted to go investigate this, hey, you
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: know what? Oh, my God. It's so much fun, though.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: And even this is one of those very specific time period,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I guess, when this weird person, this weird actor was
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: coming off of... I've done a lot of lead roles.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I'm also insane. I'm a horrible, horrible human being. we
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: get a nice little cameo at least a minor role
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: by klaus.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: Kinski whoa as president boom b-o-o-n-g and he is weirdly
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: if you can imagine klaus kinski trying to be kind.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Of effeminate whoa You should do that. You'll hurt yourself.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: And it will frighten you because everything Kitsuki does is disturbing.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: It is a weird thing. Let me just say, he
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: does not omit screen time, so you're safe. You can
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: watch it and just kind of close your eyes for
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: a minute and he goes away.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: But it is a weird thing. Wow.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: That one is so much fun. I definitely recommend that one.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I just went and went, well, I guess I gotta
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: round this out and watch the second one. I'm just like, Oh,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: this is so not the same.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't have the same magic, does it?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. Let me figure out. So the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: director of Million Eyes of Sumeru is Lindsay Shontef. I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: don't know who that is, but as a point of comparison,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the director of The Girl from Rio is Jess Franco. Oh,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the legendary Jess Franco.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: The craftsman. The porn director. Right.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: The almost porn director. Or the full on porn director.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Jeff Franco. Just depends on what pseudonym he was using
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: at the time. but his stuff, I don't know anything
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: about his stuff. I don't think that's the thing.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I saw it and was like, Oh, I know him
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: by name, but I don't think I've, I, if I've
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: seen anything, I don't remember it enough to where that,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: that I connected it with him.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: But even looking at the behind the scenes, like the
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: older version of our lead is talking about him. And
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: she's like, Oh, I didn't know he did porn when
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: I did this.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: And she's like, reputation, like, she was, like, he was
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: fine to work with, I got along with him, but,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: you know, people kind of associate him with a certain
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: type of movie.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, absolutely, you know, like, uh, like, uh,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: vampire lesbian movies, you know, that kind of stuff, you know, or, uh, which,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: you know, it's.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Funny because this movie is so, to me, not that, like,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying there isn't a little, but it's, like, again,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: all the girls dress in, like, That's where I spent,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I think they spent most of their budget was just
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: to get the girls semi matching outfits in certain scenes.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of women. Again, this is a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: world domination. So she's got like all these women and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: they're all wearing this weird like giant round dress. donut-shaped
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: piece of material and the hole in the middle is
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: where they shove their head and then it just sort
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: of drapes around them at that point so if you're
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: also not wearing a shirt you get a little side
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: boob is.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: What i'm saying i get you i get you so
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: there's that.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: And then there's a scene where there's like oh this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: girl that he was like running around with is in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: the shower so you get a little flash there but
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: like it's pretty minimal yeah for something that that just
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: like oh Again, in the late 60s, I guess you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: still didn't get a ton of that in legit movies. So, like, it's,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: you know, it was probably pretty racy at the time.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: There's a scene where they kind of work in a
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lesbian scene, but they cut away from it.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Which was funny because, which was funny because our leads
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: were like, yeah, that's not me. We're seeing it through
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: like a draped, like a mesh sort of thing. Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: her in bed and we assume it's her but she's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: like if you look at it this girl's hair is
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: way longer than mine and i turned away from the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: camera the whole time and the other lady that's like
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: a minor character comes in and it's actually her and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: she like we see some boob and then they get
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: ready to make out and we cut away so that's
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: as racy as you're gonna get for 1969 or whatever
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: this was.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Jess Franco, though, shot 20 hours of that scene, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: they kind of cut it all out.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's all sitting in his house.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: If you come over, he'll shout it to you.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: He'll put it on the.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: It'd be like the scene at the beginning of the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: howling and everything.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Actually, it's just like him. Turn around, Karen.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Turn around.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: He's just like Burt Reynolds in Boogie Nights. He's got
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: a screening room. He's just sitting there watching them on
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: film the old-fashioned way. This is what it was an
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: art form, man. You kids don't understand.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Totally, dude.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the second one, not quite. For something that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: should be, like I said, there's still a whole bunch
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: of girls running around with machine guns, wearing matching outfits,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: and it seems like that part of it would be
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: enough to make it fun, but it's just... I think
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: it's because... i got about halfway in and i i
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: was like are we ever gonna get to a plot
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: right right and there really isn't like at least in
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: the first one there's this whole big crazy plot of
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: her and all these other girls that are legitimately like
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: trying to take over the world and like they just
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: don't trust men in general and i'm like yeah i
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: get that and like there's all these cool like points
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: built into the story and then you get to the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: second one and it's like Okay. So they think this
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: guy's got money. So they like try to kidnap him.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, somebody else is trying to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: kidnap him from like a different group. And they also
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: want his money. And I'm like, so. People just want
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: money in this. Yeah, this one sucks. There's not a
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: chaos organization trying to take him down. We don't ever
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: get anybody giving him real James Bond-y missions to go
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: do that. He just gets kidnapped badly a few times.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: People keep trying to take money that he may or
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: may not have on him. And that's like halfway into
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: the plot. I'm like, we've not done anything else in
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: this movie except him get into bad kung fu fights
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And this guy's not even as much fun
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: as our first. I don't know who this lead was,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: but I was not thrilled with him either. So I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: was just not having near as much fun with the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: second one, I got to say.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, man. That's cool. You know, the sequels,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Cannonball Run 2 is no Cannonball Run, you know.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: But the outtakes are epic. You stay through those credits, man.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Those outtakes. Dom is just a national treasure.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: National treasure, Dom DeLuise.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: No joke, man.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: No joke. That was one of the first things I'd
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: go like, man, you remember when you'd go see a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: movie just because it had Dom DeLuise in it?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: It's funny how actors just get traded out and traded
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: out over the years. It's like, you'll see something coming
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: out from.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: You know, 1989, you go like, oh, look, it's got
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Laurie Singer and Dom DeLuise in it. You're like, boy,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: that was just.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: A lot of times when you would just be like, well,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: they're a name. So we got a name much like these.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: They're like, we got that girl from Goldfinger. Like if
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: you get a name that's recognizable, like even Dom DeLuise
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: became towards later in his career, like anything you could
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: get him in. If you were an up and coming filmmaker,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: like that was a score, man.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: He was in the biggest movies at the time, you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: when he, when he was, I mean, when he was
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: hanging out with Bert, like they were just making money.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hand over fist.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Like it didn't matter. They were just like super popular,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: cranking out cash, man. Like, so that was a big deal.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: If you could get him in one of your movies,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: like that's, that's, that's what you were going for, man.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. Get me Deloese. We need a, up the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: fun hand us.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: That's the thing though. He had like, he had skill.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: He's a good actor. I kind of want to go
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: back and rewatch it. Cause I was listening to something with,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: with his son in it and he kept referencing how much, um,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: how good fat so is. And that's one of those
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I remember on cable as a kid. And I remembered
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: that it existed, but I barely remember anything from it. Yeah.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: And like, it really is like kind of a, I mean,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: it's sort of got a little comedy baked into it,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: but it's, pretty sad as the story goes. So like,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to revisit that. Cause I feel
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: like he was probably a lot better actor than, you know,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: he got credit for by the time he was just
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: hanging out with Bert to be the, the, you know,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: silly sidekick character.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: So I kind of want to go back and watch that.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: And like the 12 chairs and like some of that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: early stuff that like, he probably got a little chance to,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: you know, actually do some acting.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I like them. I like them. And, uh, uh,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I probably seen that movie hot stuff. uh, a lot. And, uh,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's probably weed jokes in that, that I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: didn't get at the time. I think he's getting like
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: super munchies and in some scene, I always wondered what
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: was going on. Right, right, right, right. I think if
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I've watched, I mean, considering the year it came out,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going like, yeah, this was like 1980 or something
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: like that. And Cheech and Chong type stuff was real popular. Uh,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that's probably what that was. But replaying,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you replay scenes from your childhood and you
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: go like, oh, that's probably what was going on there.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of those because I watched whatever the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: hell I wanted growing up. So it's like I saw
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: tons of stuff I probably didn't need to see. But
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: it's funny years later. We're like, yeah, but I didn't
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: know what half of this was. I didn't get what
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: was going on half the time.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. For real, dude, for real.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I've rambled about a couple of mine. Did you have
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: anything else you've watched lately?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, just quick, quick, one, two, three. We'll start with,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: you were talking about Klaus Kinski, and I would say that, yeah,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: piece of shit human being. Oh, yeah, he's a horrible,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: horrible piece of shit. But a movie I really love
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: is Venom. from like 1980 or 81 about the snake
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: in the apartment with the uh uh like the burglars
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: and it takes place in uh like the criminals are
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: stuck in a apartment surrounded by cops in a high
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: rise and then this black mamba snake gets loose oh
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: it's a house it's a house.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Have you not seen this This is the one I'm
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: going to bring because, again, I can almost picture the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: video box. Like, I remember it, but I do not
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: know that I've ever sat down and watched it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Dude, okay. It's a killer snake movie, but I guess
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: this is the years, you know, Jaws was still influencing things,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: you know, killing animals.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, it looks like Tom Hardy's in it.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait. No, that's not the same.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, I see the box here.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: I definitely passed this on a video shelf 2,000 times.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, it is great. I saw it on, like,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the ABC Sunday Night Movie or something like that. And
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I had only seen it when I was, like, 7
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: or 8 and, you know, had forgotten all about it.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: But, um.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: But I recently rewatched it, you know, recently in the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: last five years. And I was like, wow, that's a
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: good freaking movie. They just hired, it takes place in England.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: And so everybody has like, you know, British accents. So
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: everybody sounds like they're acting like Sir Lawrence Olivier, you know.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: Is it supposed to be set in England? Or they
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: just all happen to have British accents?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: No, it takes place in England. So it's got that
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: time and place, you know. And everybody's wearing trench coats. Awesome.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Cool already. It's just got a great look to it,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: a great vibe about it. And, I mean, it's a
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: ridiculous story. I mean, the sneak is picking off, you know,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: these bad guys. It's got some really good faces from
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the time period. Who was the Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry guy?
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Whoever played that blonde who played Dirty Mary is in
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: this movie.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Susan George?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Susan George is in it. Right.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the list here. We got a Sarah
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Miles and a Susan George and Sterling Hayden. Hell yeah.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: God among.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Men sterling hayden is in it and um and uh
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: and so And so, yeah, it's a really freaking cool movie. And, yeah,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: they've got really good actors. And, you know, the backstory
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: is that Tobey Hooper was going to direct it. And
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: he directed, like, maybe two weeks. And then they fired
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: him because Tobey Hooper's crazy.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, they do have him co-listed
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: on the directors here on IMDb.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. But he didn't get to keep the job. You know,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: he kept getting fired.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: That happens to Tobey a lot.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: It certainly does. And if you ever... Have you ever,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: you know, cause he's just like a tech, an Austin,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Texas hippie, you know, and he's not like from the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: USC film school and he doesn't talk that language. He's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: just like, uh, the greatest thing I ever saw about
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Toby Hooper was they did a behind the scenes, a
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: documentary on him directing the toolbox murders. And, uh, it's
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: the greatest freaking documentary. I haven't been able to find it.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: I think somebody took it down, but, It's just great
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: how he's directing that movie because it's like watching David
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Lynch work or something like that. It's just like a
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: man with, like, on his own planet making a movie. And, well,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: you know, when you see Zemeckis, he's got his animatics
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: and he's pointing always, they're always pointing a certain direction.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: And knows how to communicate with everybody on the set
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: and get stuff done.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Get stuff done.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: That's not Toby's.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: That is not Toby at all. Toby, while they're, I
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: feel like I've said this story before on an earlier episode. Toby,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: because I talk about Toby Hoover a lot.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: We have talked about him a few times.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like doing a scene and it's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a scary scene. And so, you know,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: while everybody's shooting the movie, Toby's like sitting off in
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: the corner with a wrench in a bucket. And he's
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: just like hanging on the bucket with a wrench. And
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm going like, well, I guess that's how
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: he directs movies.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: And if you watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre, you go like, yeah,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: it really worked for that material.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: He likes his weird material.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: He likes his weird material. So, you know, some not
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Toby Hooper is not the right fit for every project,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: you know. But but I mean, he makes a but
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: he works so much in TV, you know, he he
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: must have. I don't know. I don't know, but I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: can't go into the Toby Hooper.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: I think you just don't have to be near as
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: connected on TV because you're just in and out. It's
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of workmen. You're just you show up. You
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: know how to work the cameras. You know how to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: set up. You cut to this. You cut to that.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: And you're out for the week. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: I think it was a lot easier to just get
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: a one and done kind of job and not have
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: to connect with all the actors. Because they're there every week.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: They know their character. They know what they're doing. You're
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: just there to set up the shot, call it, and
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: be done.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and say cut and action. Yeah. So yeah, it's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: not so bad. But yeah, he was his own guy.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: But Venom. So it was one of the multiple movies
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: that he got fired off of in the late 70s,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: early 80s. And I think there was like a cocaine problem.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, whatever. It was the late 70s, early 80s.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: That never happened at that time. That never happened in Hollywood?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Never on movies? Come on.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Come on, dude. Man, I just can't get started on Toby.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Supposedly him and Kim Hinkle were going to make a...
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: sequel to Texas Chainsaw Massacre called Beyond the Valley of
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: What era was this?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: This was.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: After 2 or before 2?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, before 2. This was when he went to
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Hollywood after Texas Chainsaw Massacre and he had a deal.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: You know, people love Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He got, you know,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Ridley Scott and William Friedkin really loved that movie and
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: so they were championing him for a while and that's
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: probably how he got in good with Spielberg. I mean,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: just people... loved that movie. And then, you know, he
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: made some, you know, Salem's lot and it looked like,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: you know, it was a big deal for television. And,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: and I love the fun house, you know, amazing. I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking, dude. I'm just going over.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: This is the Toby Hooper filmography. What does Sam think
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: about Toby Hooper? Anyway, but a podcast, but anyway, it's okay.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Venom is great. It's my point. My point is Venom
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: is great. And it kind of ties into another movie
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about. But then I rewatched The Howling.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: The Howling holds up. I enjoy it better than American Werewolf.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I just think. Joe Dante's take on the werewolf stuff
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: is just incredible. All right. And it, I, I like,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: and some people think it's a real piece of shit movie,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: but I fucking love the Howling.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. We ended up
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: just talking about this recently and was rewatched by someone
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: on the show. And, um, This it's been a little
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: while since I've seen it. They commented on it being
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: slower than they remembered. Oh, you find that.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think that movie.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't remember that. Like, I mean, we did a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: whole episode years and years ago, and I don't remember
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: that being an issue for me at the time.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: So I was like, maybe it's just your connection with
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: the movie. I don't know, because I was like, I
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: didn't remember it being slow in my head.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: The writing of that movie is so good and uh
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: the dialogue and stuff i mean still my favorite one
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: of my favorite things is the guy's racing to save
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend or save the heroine and he gets stuck
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: at a he has to get gas and the guy
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: won't move his car and he goes like hey buddy
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: you know some of us you know don't make enough
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: to drive a mazda you know and he's like come
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: on and uh I love that.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: He set the bar pretty low. As someone who's had
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: a monster for many, many years.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and it's just so funny because they never
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: have to get gas in a movie when they're in
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: a high-speed race to save the lady. But it's just
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: so funny, little details like that. And Dick Miller is
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: so good in that movie. And, um, and anyway, it's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: a great movie. It holds up. I love it. I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: love it to death, you know? And, um, but finally
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: we'll just say, um, Venom kind of connects to this
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: other movie. I watched, uh, watched it right before the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: show and I watched the new horror movie, Abigail.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: All right. I have heard about it a little bit
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: here and there on the internet. So what was your
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: take on it?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. So I didn't realize this was going to be
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: a real movie by people I actually liked. But I
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: didn't realize these were the directors of... I was going like,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: this is kind of giving me a Ready or Not vibe.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: And then, lo and behold, it's the same dudes who
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: made it. Those guys are pretty good. Dude.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: They've got a good track record.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Ready or Not, some of those VHS movies,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: the first, the Scream, you know, retro requel or whatever.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Which I had a lot of fun with. I liked
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: that first.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: One in particular.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was going like, that's what you got to do.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: You just got to wait 30 years and then make
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: a sequel, you know. I think that one from 2022
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: is fantastic. The one in New York is fine.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed that one more than most. Now the whole
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: franchise has gotten itself in trouble for other outside reasons.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: We're in trouble in general if you're a screen fan
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: at this point. But those two were fine. I enjoyed them.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: I thought the straight requel was fantastic.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: It did what the others were trying to do. It
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: did what Wes was trying to do, only it did
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: it now with all this new stuff that we're dealing with.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Wes would have probably loved to take a bite out
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: of that stuff, but he was gone. I feel like
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: they picked up the baton and did pretty good with it,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: I gotta say.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like talk. Well, it was, that
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: was kind of about toxic fan cultures, right.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Which is massively good. And just like becoming a celebrity
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: in quotes there, just because people have seen you, you know,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: now everybody's ends up on the internet at any given point,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: even if you don't want to be sometimes. So it's like,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: it was that level of like being forced into celebrity,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: them toxic fandom, like recall bullshit. Like everything becomes a,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: 20 years, 30 years later sequel. It addressed a lot
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: of that stuff that we didn't have even in Scream 4.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Scream 4 is just like the worst
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: case scenario. I mean, Scream 3 may be worse. I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I like 3.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: It's kind of got a Scooby-Doo kind of vibe. Yeah,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: I know people like Dragon 3, but people don't love
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: 4 either. Nobody likes 3. Just because it's playing with
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: the again, it's so within its own world that like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: the fact that we have them running around a set
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: version of the house from the first movie is kind
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: of genius. Like for that, for that thing that they're
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: doing from the little gimmick that they're playing from the
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: first one that carries on in the second one. And like,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like they do a pretty good job. The
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: wrap up, there's always a toss up. It could be
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: ridiculous from the, you know, Even the first one, I'm
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: sure somebody hated. But, like, from two on, every time,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, but then the end.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. Whatever.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: The Scream endings are, you know, real give and take.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I kind of like this ending from Scream 3 more
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: than I like the one from Scream 2. I think
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: that guy is kind of cool. I'm the director. He's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: got that great last minute taking the bullets. The way
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: they kill him is pretty cool. But Scream 4, I
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: guess that's Julia Roberts' daughter. I didn't really care for
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: that one. It kind of goes back and forth. Scream 1,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: I like the ending. didn't like the acting. It's the
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: acting is what it is.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: See, I loved Emma Roberts in the fourth one. I wanted...
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: I went on the show and preached how much I
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: wanted her to make it so we could follow her.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Because I wanted more of that crazy. Like, she's just
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: insane by the end of that.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, that's what I want. Can we
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: just follow her around? Right, right. I'm sick of seeing
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: Courtney and Kajik's face. Stop showing her and give me
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: more of Emma Roberts, damn it.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Let me tell you about Abigail. Abigail is incredible.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I had an incredible... great time with this movie okay
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: i mean uh i was going to see it in
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: a theater i didn't know the directors were people i
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: liked i just thought the concept seemed pretty cool you
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: know kind of high concept and it's very much like
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: venom i guess i just like movies it's kind of
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: like reservoir dogs meets a horror movie you know and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: and um so it's kind of like scumbags so you're
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: kind of like going like oh yeah we get to
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: watch the the supernatural element you know dispatch scumbags in
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: a cool way you know but this movie does a
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: really good job of making our main scumbag very uh
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: uh uh relatable you know uh the the the female
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: lead in it is great and the uh guy that
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: i also recognize the guy who was in uh the
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: adam wingard uh was the guest uh movie uh uh.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: He's again better than i expected it.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: To be absolutely yeah yeah and uh so the main
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: guy from that is in it and um so the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: cast is all really good it's all very well acted
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: uh it's got you know it all takes place in
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: a creepy rich mansion you know so you're really getting
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: some strong ready or not vibes off of it but
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: then it's also kind of combined bind with uh like
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: uh this creepy little girls genre that's becoming popular again
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: because Megan made so much money.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Again, have you seen that one?
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I saw it in the theater. I
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: took a kid to see it. And I thought it
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: was fine.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: I was like, it's not great. But I was like,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: it was pretty much what I expected, only they're pretty
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: solid on some of the moments there where I'm like, oh,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: this is moving into creepy territory. I'll give it to them.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of cool. It was
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. And they're making a sequel and everything. So
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Megan is good, but I would say... Yeah, but you
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: could see this is influenced by... Or, you know, Megan's
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: got that weird scene where she comes out of the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: elevator and starts dancing for some reason.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There's a big scene in this movie. Well, I'm
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: just going to say that the director's... these, these, these directors, I,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: I think they have good taste. All right. And, uh,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: they just put stuff in movies I like to see. And, um,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: there's a, there's a scene where like, yeah, there's a
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: dancing scene in this that is, is just fantastic. And, uh,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just going like, excellent.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: These people read Fangoria magazine when they were growing up. And, uh,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: this is just, you know, you can just sort of
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: tell they're kind of like, um, you know, you know,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: drink from the same pop culture cup. And, um, And they,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: it's really cool characters. And, you know, there's some real surprises.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like Ready or Not. You know, it's
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: going like, wow, this is much better than I thought
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: it was going to be. I really thought Abigail was
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: just going to be a throwaway thing. And I really
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. And the guy who, the guy from The Guest,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: I think his name is Chris something. I don't know.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: He played Beauty and the Beast and the big Dan Stevens.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: All right. He choose, he is so good in this movie, um,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: through all his different, you know, moments. Uh, and there's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: some really cool, uh, twister ruse and, the Melissa Barrera,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: you can tell I'm on a internet database right now.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: She's incredible in it and she wears too much eyeliner.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: So it's fantastic. All right. And, um, and what else
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: was she and she was she is also in scream
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: oh but she's in the scream movies okay so i
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: guess she's probably the one that got fired for having
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: an opinion.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 10: That you're not oh wait is she the older yeah
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 10: yeah yeah right she's the one that got in trouble
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: and well one of them got way too popular and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 10: she wasn't going to come back anyway more than likely
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 10: yeah the other one got in trouble.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Because she had you know an opinion so yeah it's.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: All falling exactly Yeah, yeah. Well, she's great. There's somebody
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: that's in some Ant-Man movie or something. She's great. All
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: the people are in it are great. And the little
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: girl playing the vampire is great. And there's a really good,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it's got a really good ending. But it's
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: got a really good, great sense of humor to it.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's got kind of like that Sam Raimi
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: sense of humor to it. It's very bloody. And it's
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: very well-paced. and they do a really good job of
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: like just metering out information about the characters, you know, uh,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: and making things come back around. It was well-written. It's
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: just a good, I mean, I would say you could
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: pick up a copy of that and just know that your,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: your 599 at the Walmart bargain bin is safe.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Uh, if they had any, if they had, if they
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: had those.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: If they still had those, um, It's a great movie.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: What did I put in there? The Dan Stevens has
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: a real Bruce Campbell kind of thing going on.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: Which is cool. They have the good taste to use
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the John Carpenter font during the end credits. I started
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: at the end of my notes. My eyes are terrible.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Let's see here.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: I'm already there.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: The Abigail creepy little girl. I'll just read out. I'll
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: try to read my notes here and everything. uh abigail
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: creepy little girl movies so you got you know oh
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: you know like the exorcist you know probably is the
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: grandfather the godfather of those and they do a great
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: exorcist homage in this um kind of a deep cut
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: where you just kind of got to know um uh
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: so it's kind of like like the sugar plum fairy
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: from uh cabin in the woods got their own movie
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: you know all right yeah And, uh, bad guys running, yeah, so, uh,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: it's like all the people are, because they're bad guys,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: they're all cool, you know? And they did a real
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: good job, uh, uh, they did a good job making everybody, uh,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you know, distinct and, and whatnot. Uh, and it kind
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: of has, like, you know, Let's see here. I said eyeliner.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: You're really into this girl. Yeah, I do.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: And radio silence, I guess, is the film group that,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: you know, this these directors go by. And but yeah,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I was going like, man, this is like ready or
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: not meets, you know, Megan. But really, really freaking cool.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. Oh, yeah. Say 11 minutes in. So far,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: so good. And then I wrote, this is really good.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: And then I said, 30 minutes in. Creaky old house.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I love that. Oh, this is a big deal. When
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: somebody is getting murdered in a room, other people in
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: the house can hear it. And that drives me crazy
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: in horror movies. Where somebody can be two rooms down
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: and screaming and knocking stuff off books and everything. And
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: the people are in the living room. It's like the
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: ending of scream, you know, in that house, nobody hears
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: anything in the next room. I mean, it's just kind
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: of crazy, but, um, what is it? Oh yeah. It's
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: got a good kind of like, you know, trapped atmosphere
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, ready or not. And, uh, it's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: got a cool, like a timer kind of like escape
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: from New York. You know, they've got to like hold
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: it together for X amount of hours before, uh, you know, help,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: help is going to come. Uh, the dance scene is amazing. Vampire.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Slow giving out the info. That was good. Evil Dead
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: sense of humor. There's not only one vampire in the movie.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: How that happens is great. You're just going to love that.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: They're all very, very aware that they're in a movie
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: about vampires. It's kind of got a Fright Night kind
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: of atmosphere to it.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Too nice that's always a go-to for me yeah.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's kind of got that there's there's moments that
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: are reminiscent of fright night where they're going like i
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: can't believe we're in a vampire movie you know kind
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: of thing you know um kind of like from dusk
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: till dawn too you know so it's it would be
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: a good from dusk till dawn fright night uh abigail
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: triple feature kind of thing you know nice and uh
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: let's like jot down here In the dark. Let's see.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Great at making the heroine sympathetic. Great glances? Don't know.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: Game over.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Bruce Campbell vibe. And then I wrote green eggs and ham.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: So I guess we're back to square one.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: It's all come full circle.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So I would say I wish I did
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: see Abigail in the theater. I think it's a really
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: good you know, I mean, it's got the same ready
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: or not vibe to it. I think I like this lady,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: you know, better than, uh, I know it was, uh,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: what is it? Samira weaving. I like this character better.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to say I like the
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: actress better, but I think I like the character better
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: in those, you know, I mean, they're both cool, whatever.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: It's got the same vibe and it's just, it just
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: comes together and it's, uh, got a really good sense
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: of humor about it. You know, it's got that same,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: you know, ready or not kind of vibe scream remake, uh,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: vibe to it. So I can't, I would just say like, yeah,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: definitely watch it. I enjoy the hell out of it.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: This is good. I need to, and I'm looking it
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: up now and I'm like, ah, another streaming service I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: don't have. Damn you people. Stop making it hard to
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: watch things.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: For real, dude.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: For real.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: Oh man.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So I was shocked. I just thought it
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: was going to be some throwaway horror movie that I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't ever going to think about again or barely get through.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: But it was a real winner, man. And so far
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: it's movie of the year.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: Again sometimes you can assume they set the bar low
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: for those sort of things but you know totally i
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: feel like there's been a few good ones yeah yeah.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I think so man i think so dude all right
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: all right well.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 11: I can round us out with a teaser here okay
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 11: because once again as a tie-in to several things we've
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 11: mentioned and the fact that I'm still buying physical media.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: The other day in a real store, I went in
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: the world, I picked it up with my hands, but
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: I saw it and I was like, what the hell
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: is this? Are you familiar with Nosferatu in Venice?
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: No. What the hell?
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I only picked it up because I went, oh God,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: is that Klaus Kinski? Oh no. So, according to the
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: back of this, It was intended to be an unofficial
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: sequel to Herzog's Nosferatu. And instead became, put into this,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: one of the most notoriously fascinating productions of Euro cult history.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: And like, even on the box here, it says, Kloskinski,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: and now the quote is, now fully in the grip
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: of his batship crazy phase of his career. I'm like,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: damn it, I'm going to have to get this, even
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: though that guy's a piece of shit. I keep watching
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: movies that he's in because he's so insane.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: But then the other, like, going down further, I just
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: kind of scan him, like, wait, Donald Pleasance? We're like,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: this is real actors in it. So, yeah, this is
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: an odd... later version of revisiting this uh nosferatu character
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: with the same piece.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Of shit yeah was it good.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet i just got it like
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: i just ran across it like yesterday so that was
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: why i was like it's a teaser so i can
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: watch this and yeah either we can work it into
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: a horror episode somewhere down the line officially or we
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: can just come back and you and i can talk
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: about it whichever you or if anyone out there cared
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: prefers but.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah No, that sounds good.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: There's a weird teaser of more Klaus Kinski is a
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: horrible human being that keeps making movies.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Right, that we end up watching. It just happens. It
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: just happens, guys. He's got screen presence. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: He definitely has something.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a nice teaser for the future.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere down the line, I can talk about that. Whoever
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: wants to join me on that, probably Nightmare Jacks.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. That gives me something to research and
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  Speaker 1: everything about the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent. Brian, man, this was crazy, dude.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: It always is when we have one of these get-togethers.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, I was going like, man, I was so
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: tired this week and everything. I was going like, this
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: is probably going to be a 35-minute episode.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think you and I could do a 35-minute episode.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: Pretty sure, if you bet us money, we couldn't do it.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for real, dude. I was not expecting to go
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: through a green eggs and ham nervous breakdown at the beginning.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, once again, that's the world that both
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: you and I existed.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: And we watch movies, too. So, you know, that's how
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: it comes together.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Well, thank you for coming.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Along on this journey. And it's always fun. So I
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: want to, like I said, in the past, I want
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: to keep this going as long as you're willing.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: And anybody else who wants to come along, that's up
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: to you guys. But the two of us have fun.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: So that's what's good.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely, guys. So, yeah, I think this is one
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: for the books and everything. I think it was the best.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: episode we've done so.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 9: Who knew who every episode is the best episode we've
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: ever done i think so it just gets better and
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 9: better excellent excellent well yeah well thanks for uh inviting
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: me on man and everything i'll let you go.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: All right well thank you and everyone out there for
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: going along with this otherwise that about does it we
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: will return next time same geek feed thanks for listening
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 8: Headed to the bus stop, Maddie.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: You were reading in your room, holed up all day.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 8: You picked me up in a brand new audience and
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 8: she bought it for herself.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: On Mother's Day. We all love.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Some familiar tune.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 8: You said it's from volume two But then you give
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 8: me one, another you just finished You're my library, always
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 8: open to business But you never show it, you're just
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 8: sitting with it But I know the.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 12: Score and you're killing it Line after line when you're
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 12: taking it in.
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  Speaker 3: Time after time when.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 12: You're trying to fit into some white shoes Or a
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 12: blue collar So we listened to your.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 8: Choice for the first ten seconds I turned the dial,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 8: I turned your expression I said now, haven't you learned
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: your last lesson? I tried to understand, I just don't
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: get it We.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 12: Hold on, all the memories You said it's from volume
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 12: three But then you give me one, another you just
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 12: finished You're my library, always open for business But you
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 12: never show it, you're just sitting right there But I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 12: know the score, and you're killing it Line after line,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 12: you're taking it in Time after time, you're trying to
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 12: beat it.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: To some black shoes Or a blue powder Just a
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: black shoe Or a blue powder Take me to the.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 12: Bus stop, Maddie Drive me back.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 8: To Hamilton You talk about your stepdad funny You sound
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 8: just like your father's son.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 12: Now you've liberated Every Latin rhythm Never used to play it.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 12: She could never stand to listen.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then you give me one, another you can spin.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: You're my library.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 8: But you never show it. You're just sitting with it,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 8: but I don't score. And you're killing.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: It line after line.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: So get in it.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: It's a time after time. Try to get it. It's
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: a white shoes or a blue collar. Is it your
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: white shoes or your blue collar?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Oh! What if the movies melted down and no one cared?
• 1:47:10
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• 1:47:13
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• 1:47:16
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