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The Men And Women Of Our Military Are Always Welcome At Home Builders Institute With CEO Ed Brady · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. There are a ton of podcasts out there. Aren't
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  Speaker 1: That voice, yeah, from NBC's The Voice. I've spent the
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  Speaker 2: How are you? This is Ed Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Ed Brady, hello again, dude. I told you I was
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  Speaker 1: going to be calling you back again.
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  Speaker 2: You did. You did. Good to talk again.
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  Speaker 1: And Katie is the one that keeps me so up
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  Speaker 1: to date with what you're doing. And it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, that Ed is always on to something.
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  Speaker 2: Katie's wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love what you're doing with the military. And
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about that because you are really
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  Speaker 1: doing something here that I swear to God I've not
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  Speaker 1: heard of yet. And you're stepping out there saying, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: let's do something about this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, it's a win-win-win as we look
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  Speaker 3: at it for the soldiers and sailors, Marines, airmen that
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  Speaker 3: we train that have given so much of their life
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  Speaker 3: and dedication to the country that sometimes come out of
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  Speaker 3: those programs with not as much marketable skills as you
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  Speaker 3: would think. We are able to give to them something
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  Speaker 3: that they go out on the market and be successful.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's just a rewarding and very very satisfying
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  Speaker 3: and needed service that HBI has been able to provide
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  Speaker 3: because of our funders. And I even celebrate that sometimes... uh,
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  Speaker 3: we train their spouses, their family members.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's, um, it's really, it's a wonderful, um,
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  Speaker 2: rewarding experience.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hope people understand that this is lifetime skills.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't something that's going to be, well, I may
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  Speaker 1: do this job. I may not. This is lifetime that,
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  Speaker 1: that working with you is really a, a really firm
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  Speaker 1: print in, into their future.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think I've told you this story, but I,
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  Speaker 3: I lived as a framing carpenter and I shadowed a
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  Speaker 3: master carpenter, union carpenter, building apartment buildings for the first summer.
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  Speaker 3: And then I got more skills the next summer. And
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  Speaker 3: then I ended up superintendent on an apartment building in
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  Speaker 3: my senior year in college. And then I went into college.
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  Speaker 3: Those skills that I learned from 14 to 15, 16, 17,
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  Speaker 3: I still have today. I may not be able to
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  Speaker 3: move around as fast, but those skills never leave you.
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  Speaker 3: They're portable. They're transferable. You can do them in Maine
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  Speaker 3: or you can do them in San Diego. And so
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  Speaker 3: whether or not some of our students go into it immediately,
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  Speaker 3: they have something that they can learn. Have for a lifetime.
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  Speaker 3: So as you say, skilled trades don't leave you.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm seeing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: here in the Carolinas is that people from all over
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  Speaker 1: the nation are bringing their skilled trades here. And that
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  Speaker 1: was one of the focuses that you've got here is
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  Speaker 1: that there's a shortage of workers right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, three.
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  Speaker 3: I think the latest, and don't quote me, but somewhere
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  Speaker 3: around 300,000 empty jobs in the construction industry. And if
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  Speaker 3: you multiply, I mean, housing is a little softer today.
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  Speaker 3: But what has picked up is the data centers and
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  Speaker 3: the commercial, the infrastructure, the investment in the future. And
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  Speaker 3: so this is an industry that, yes, has cycles. But
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  Speaker 3: AI is not going to take this skill from you,
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  Speaker 3: nor is AI going to come fix your faucet at
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  Speaker 3: 3 in the morning if it's leaking into your basement.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to come fix your roof.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to maintain or preserve the existing housing,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not going to build the future housing that
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  Speaker 3: we need in this country. So we really promote the
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  Speaker 3: idea that these are AI-proof jobs. The biggest example of
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  Speaker 3: that is AI data centers are not being built by AI.
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  Speaker 3: They're built by men and women in the skilled trades.
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  Speaker 3: If AI could do it, they would.
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  Speaker 2: Be doing it.
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  Speaker 3: And so these are career paths that are sustainable and
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  Speaker 3: can build a future for you.
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  Speaker 1: How can we get people to understand that this skill
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  Speaker 1: is going to make them a superstar for their community?
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  Speaker 1: Because my father used to tell me all the time,
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  Speaker 1: We would stop by a street and he'd say, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think's underneath this street? And I would sit
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  Speaker 1: there and I'd say bugs and roots. And he says, no,
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  Speaker 1: there's piping. Learn what that piping is all about. There
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  Speaker 1: is actual humanism down there and it needs real people
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  Speaker 1: to put this together.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, you know, over the years. Last 30 years,
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  Speaker 2: everybody had to go to college.
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  Speaker 3: And the prestige and I think the honorable career path
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  Speaker 3: in the skilled trades has been forgotten. I think we're
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  Speaker 3: bringing that back. But to your point, one of my
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  Speaker 3: proudest moments is driving through a subdivision that I developed
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  Speaker 3: and built 100 homes and showing my kids and named
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  Speaker 3: the streets. And it was just, it's really rewarding that I've,
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  Speaker 3: the infrastructure, every skilled worker in this country can say,
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  Speaker 3: I helped build that bridge, or I put those curbs
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  Speaker 3: and gutters in, or I dug that sewer. And that's
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  Speaker 3: an honorable thing to be able to promote and sell.
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  Speaker 3: And we're fighting to bring that back. I believe we're
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  Speaker 3: being successful. We're using the headwinds of college tuition and
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  Speaker 3: graduation rates to have and we're creating tailwinds to help
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  Speaker 3: promote this industry as a in many cases seven figure
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  Speaker 3: income yeah a long career path a path to entrepreneurship
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  Speaker 3: and owning your own business um and you know what
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  Speaker 3: i i just had a good friend pass away they
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  Speaker 3: called him the muddy boots builder um you get your
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  Speaker 3: hands dirty uh he developed he became mayor he was
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  Speaker 3: part of He was part of the community.
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  Speaker 2: He was a leader in the community.
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  Speaker 3: And he started the same way, much the same way
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  Speaker 3: I did in the Midwest as a frame carpenter.
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  Speaker 2: I think young people need to hear those stories.
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  Speaker 3: I think young people need to understand that there is
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  Speaker 3: a bright future, even if, like me, it wasn't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: book smart. I got to be street smart and built
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  Speaker 3: my own business.
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  Speaker 2: And here I am. Right. They need to hear those stories.
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  Speaker 1: I think Ed needs to sit here and make sure
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  Speaker 1: that that Ed Brady puts together a show for either
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  Speaker 1: CBS or ABC that puts the puts the history of
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  Speaker 1: these people forward so that we can understand that. And
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  Speaker 1: here's the reason why. My wife and I were at
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  Speaker 1: the hospital yesterday. There's every hospital is building. But while
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  Speaker 1: it was raining, those construction workers were working out there.
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  Speaker 1: And do you know that in my heart, I said,
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  Speaker 1: those are the heroes because they don't know how many
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  Speaker 1: lives that they're going to save because they hoofed it
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  Speaker 1: out here in the rain. And I see them as
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  Speaker 1: being bigger than NFL and NBA stars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. God, I love you. I mean, you're preaching to
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  Speaker 2: the choir here. I think.
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  Speaker 3: We have been working on that type of promotion. Mike
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  Speaker 3: Rowe's got the dirty jobs. He's helped change the perception
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  Speaker 3: that these are good jobs. We want to put the
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  Speaker 3: honor back in it. We want to continue to promote
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  Speaker 3: in any ways your podcast in any way we can.
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  Speaker 3: promote that this is a good career path. So you
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  Speaker 3: keep working on that. And if you can get me
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  Speaker 3: a show on CBS or NBC or CNN or Fox News, whichever,
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  Speaker 3: we're apolitical.
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  Speaker 2: As you know.
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  Speaker 3: This is an issue for everybody that you've seen. In
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  Speaker 3: this last presidential election, I'm probably digressing a little bit here,
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  Speaker 3: but You've never seen housing as top of mind that
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  Speaker 3: I have in my lifetime. The first time in 40
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  Speaker 3: years we had a bipartisan housing bill. Didn't get everything.
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  Speaker 3: We still have work to do. In fact, it didn't
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  Speaker 3: address the skilled labor gap. We're going to try and
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  Speaker 3: fix that. But it's something that we need to continue
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  Speaker 3: to promote in order.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a long runway, 300,000 empty jobs. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: We're losing, retiring more productivity than we're bringing into the
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  Speaker 3: market today. So I think we're going to get worse
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  Speaker 3: than we are better in the short term. But if
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  Speaker 3: we do our job, we get people in the high
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  Speaker 3: schools and even in the elementary and middle schools interested
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  Speaker 3: in this, introduce them to this pathway. which many don't
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  Speaker 3: know about, I think we can make a difference over
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  Speaker 3: the next 10 to 20 years.
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  Speaker 2: But it's going to take a lot of effort.
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  Speaker 1: But I want people to work with you. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the reason why I want them to work with you.
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  Speaker 1: Because you've got the vision. You have got that, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say resume. That seems to be so
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  Speaker 1: stupid to say. But you've got the history and the credibility.
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  Speaker 1: Because here's what's happening right now when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: the Carolinas. God, please don't. I hope I don't get
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  Speaker 1: in trouble for saying this. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: gypsies that are coming through this area that are claiming
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  Speaker 1: to do what you do but your people are authentic
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  Speaker 1: they are the ones that have put in the skills
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  Speaker 1: they've learned the lessons they know what they're doing they're
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  Speaker 1: not just traveling from state to state to state to
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  Speaker 1: state yep Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I mean, thanks for that compliment.
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  Speaker 3: I think I have a team here at HBI that
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  Speaker 3: promotes the students that we serve. And in doing that,
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  Speaker 3: we promote the industry. And yeah, you know, the best
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  Speaker 3: example of what you just said is when you have
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  Speaker 3: a natural disaster and you had all these people coming
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  Speaker 3: in that are looking for money and, you know, quick
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  Speaker 3: fix and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: But it's the skilled people.
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  Speaker 3: Workers in this country that will help rebuild and build
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  Speaker 3: the future of our country. And I think that as
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  Speaker 3: we look at it at HBI, every student's important to us.
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  Speaker 3: Every student that wants to get into this industry deserves
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity. And that's what we're working towards. And that
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  Speaker 3: continues to take resources. I've said in the last couple
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  Speaker 3: months here, if 60% of the jobs in this country
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  Speaker 3: are going to come without a degree necessary, right?
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to go to college and get a
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  Speaker 2: degree to get a job. We ought to, as a country.
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  Speaker 3: Think about repositioning some of the financing that we do
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  Speaker 3: on higher education and put it into CTE, put it
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  Speaker 3: into career technical, whether that be nursing, whether that be
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  Speaker 3: construction skills, whether it be technology. We have to think
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  Speaker 3: about the future of our kids. We have to provide resources.
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  Speaker 3: We're starving for more resources. We continue. We could scale this.
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  Speaker 3: We've been in it for 60 years. Nobody has to
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  Speaker 3: reinvent the wheel. Nobody has to create a new model.
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  Speaker 3: We've got models. Others have models. Let's build on what
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  Speaker 3: we have. Let's provide resources and we can make a difference. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: You're just giving me flashbacks of my father. He was
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  Speaker 1: a welder. If I walked around saying my dad was
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  Speaker 1: a hero to me, he was a welder. People would
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  Speaker 1: look at me going, what? But did he play basketball? No,
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  Speaker 1: he was a welder. And I just I wish people
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  Speaker 1: could put pride into their parents and their brothers and
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  Speaker 1: sisters who are doing work just like this, such as
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  Speaker 1: a welder.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was probably five years ago where I was
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  Speaker 3: talking to my plumber and I said, your kid's going
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  Speaker 3: to go into plumbing.
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  Speaker 2: And he said, no, I don't want my kids to
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  Speaker 2: go into plumbing. I said, why not? Why not?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because he was not promoted as being an
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  Speaker 3: honorable career path and a good paying job.
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  Speaker 2: He owned his own business. He had more toys than
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  Speaker 2: I had, right? I was a builder. He had more
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  Speaker 2: toys than I had. And yes, I did begrudge him
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  Speaker 2: for that, but he was a good friend.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that is part of the problem is
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  Speaker 3: changing the perceptions. And I was just on the phone
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  Speaker 3: with a nonprofit out of Houston. That calls this an
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  Speaker 3: alternative choice. And I argue with them. I differ from
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  Speaker 3: this is not an alternative choice in the career and trades.
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  Speaker 2: This is a first choice.
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  Speaker 3: This is many young people's first choice if given the opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: But if not given the opportunity, they don't know about it.
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  Speaker 2: And so part of our job is awareness.
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  Speaker 3: Part of our job is bringing back the honor of
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  Speaker 3: a skilled trade and bringing back the skilled trades to
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  Speaker 3: begin with.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've lost a lot in the last 15
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  Speaker 2: years of....
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  Speaker 3: Skilled trades, tile people, masons, framing carpenters that know how
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  Speaker 3: to build a roof by hand instead of trusses, which
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  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, trusses are a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: But we.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Ed Brady coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: He's from the Home Builders Institute. Find out more at hbi.org.
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  Speaker 1: Home Builders Institute, that's what we're talking about today. We're
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  Speaker 1: back with Ed Brady, the CEO of the company. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we went to the top to get to the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of this. Don't you think, though, that it also starts
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  Speaker 1: with the family in the way that, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: not my child, but I worked with him at the store,
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  Speaker 1: and his name was David, and David was a feisty
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  Speaker 1: little guy. He always had a lot of things going
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  Speaker 1: on in his mind. One night while I'm working on
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  Speaker 1: the vacuum cleaner, I had that monkey all pulled apart. Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because my dad showed me how to do that. I
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  Speaker 1: showed David, that kid is now into electronics like you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. He's gone to school to be an electrician.
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  Speaker 1: That one moment working on a vacuum cleaner is what
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  Speaker 1: changed that kid's mind. We need to start at that level.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, I venture to say that one of
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  Speaker 3: the reasons that it was interesting to him is because
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  Speaker 3: he accomplished something.
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  Speaker 2: He worked with his hands. He saw he saw what
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  Speaker 2: he could do.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 2: Again, I turned around as a carpenter.
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  Speaker 3: Every day I turned around and looked at my work,
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  Speaker 3: and it was rewarding that I was able to build something.
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  Speaker 3: And I think David in your store understood that if
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  Speaker 3: he put his mind to it, he could build things.
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  Speaker 2: He could fix things. That was his mindset.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think we need to introduce that opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for young people in order to promote this as a
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  Speaker 3: rewarding thing. fruitful successful uh feel good career path um
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  Speaker 3: and that's that may be easier student to student but
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  Speaker 3: we also have to work on counselors legislators parents yes
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  Speaker 3: you know parents my my good friend the plumber that
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  Speaker 3: said i don't want to i don't want my kid
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  Speaker 3: to be a plumber why i argued with him i he.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard work. Yes, but it's rewarding work.
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  Speaker 2: It's not an office job.
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  Speaker 3: You might age out at 65 instead of 72. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, but it's a good career path and you
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  Speaker 3: should give your son or daughter the opportunity to follow
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  Speaker 3: your path and not dissuade them from becoming a professional
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  Speaker 3: in the trades.
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  Speaker 1: Did I see your name associated with the great city
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  Speaker 1: of Charlotte, North Carolina, Home Builders Institute? Because I swear
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  Speaker 1: I saw Charlotte underneath your list of places where people
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  Speaker 1: can grow.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. We work with the city of Charlotte.
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  Speaker 3: We work with a group, well, True Homes and Builders Bridge.
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  Speaker 3: We had a Build Strong Academy. We have a Build
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  Speaker 3: Strong Academy in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Work with community leaders. And we trained people. In a
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  Speaker 3: nine-week program, we train young people. Well, we train anybody
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  Speaker 3: 18 and older can apply. I think over the last
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  Speaker 3: three years, we trained somewhere in the neighborhood of 350.
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  Speaker 2: We place....
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  Speaker 3: Our job is not fulfilled until if you want a
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  Speaker 3: career path, if you want a job, is to introduce
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  Speaker 3: them to the home builders, to the contractors in the community,
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  Speaker 3: and find them a career path, at least the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of a career path.
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  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, we're in.
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  Speaker 3: Charlotte working with the Home Builders Association, working with the community,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll continue to do that. We now partnered with
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  Speaker 3: Builders Bridge, which is another nonprofit that helps people in placement.
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  Speaker 3: And get into the community and work with the Home
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  Speaker 3: Builders Association and other industry. Look, we want the best
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  Speaker 3: job that we can get for our students. I'm a
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  Speaker 3: residential contractor. I have a passion for the residential industry.
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  Speaker 3: My passion is more about our student today than it is.
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  Speaker 3: And whether they go into commercial, industrial, or residential, they're
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  Speaker 3: in the industry.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to find their right path. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: move back.
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  Speaker 3: To residential or commercial depending on their path. And so
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  Speaker 3: the more people we can populate in the industry, the
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  Speaker 3: better we're all off.
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  Speaker 2: And so thanks for mentioning Charlotte. It's a growing community.
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  Speaker 3: It's a opportunity for us to reach more people and
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  Speaker 3: partner with the right folks to help people down the road.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that we never get to hear about, and
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  Speaker 1: I want listeners to pay attention to your answer, when
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  Speaker 1: we drive by those communities and you built that community,
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  Speaker 1: what do you feel? We never get to hear that story.
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  Speaker 1: We never get to hear from the builders and the contractors.
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  Speaker 1: We get the buildings. We get the final product. But
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  Speaker 1: we never get the story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thanks for asking because not many people do. But
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: two ways to think about this. One is I drive
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: through those communities. I see trees that we planted that
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: were one inch thick diameter and now are 12, 15 inches.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I see kids playing in the yards. I see....
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  Speaker 3: I see the good that we did by providing the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: housing and homes that provided memories and futures for families.
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  Speaker 2: I went to every closing when I.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Was in the contracting business up until I couldn't anymore.
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  Speaker 3: When we built 250 homes, I couldn't get to every closing.
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  Speaker 3: But the best thing that I could do is hand
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  Speaker 3: the keys off at a closing and They were writing
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a check, of course, but I was handing the keys
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  Speaker 3: off for those families that were going to build memories
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  Speaker 3: and provide.
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  Speaker 2: Safe, accessible housing. And education depends on that.
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  Speaker 3: Education, health care, all these things that we do in
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  Speaker 3: our industry to provide good communities.
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  Speaker 2: I take much pride in that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: People don't ask that.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we as builders, developers come in and have the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: black hats that we, I've been in planning commissions where
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I'm eating up 50 acres of farmland. Yes, I'm taking
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: farmland and I'm building the sewers and water in the streets.
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  Speaker 3: I'm building homes for people to be part of the community.
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  Speaker 2: And we don't get asked that all the time, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a very prideful thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I wish they
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: would have done with our community here, and I hope
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that maybe I can help talk you into doing it,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: is that I know nothing about what was here before
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: we got here. And this land, I've always said, speaks
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  Speaker 1: to me. I know nothing about it.
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  Speaker 2: Who owned it?
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  Speaker 1: What kind of cattle were here? And what roamed? I mean,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: were there wild animals? I am that freak that has
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to know. I've been in this house for 34 years,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and it's like I know nothing about who lived here
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  Speaker 1: before me.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Um, we, we, we sometimes forget that. I'll
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: be honest.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I've probably developed 500 acres, a thousand acres in
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  Speaker 3: my lifetime. And I'm not sure. I know a lot
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  Speaker 3: of it was farmland, soybeans and corn. Uh, some had
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: cattle ranches on it. Um, others, uh, had old schools
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that were abandoned. But you don't have that history necessarily.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And we probably need to remember that a little bit.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Now I have developed property that have historical landmarks where
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: you have a park named after somebody that owned the
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: land or a community leader. Our industry is so giving
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and community-oriented that....
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  Speaker 2: That is an important aspect of what we do as
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  Speaker 2: an industry.
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  Speaker 3: But to your point, maybe we need to pay more
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: attention to the history and the legacy and the heritage
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: of some of those developments.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about what
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you're doing? I know we're going to be talking a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: million times more in the future, but I want them
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to know in their moment of now where they can
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: get in touch with.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: You, Ed. Yeah, hbi.org. Very simple. hbi.org is our website.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And if you've got a granddaughter that wants to look
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: into the skilled trades, you can go on that website
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and you can find the location of our programs. And
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you can then inquire as to how you apply to
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: a program or how you get involved in a program.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: It's got phone numbers. It's got contacts. You can go
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: there and find out what we do. We have a
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: number of different programs from the transitioning military to our academies,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: to job core, to, um, to our.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, schools. And so go to, go to hbi.org.
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  Speaker 3: Um, look that up, introduce us to one of your
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: family members, or if you're looking for a program for
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: somebody else, that's where you find out.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I love it, man. You got to come back to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. As you know, the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: door's always going to be open for you, dude.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: You're awesome. We really appreciate it.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Things like this is going to help build this future
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: for our country.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: So thanks for what you're doing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You bet. Well, you be brilliant today, okay?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: You likewise. Thanks.