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- 0:00Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.
- 0:07Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?
- 0:08Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky Rhett with you
- 0:10Speaker 3: on a Monday. As we look back on the weekend
- 0:13Speaker 3: that was a week fifteen, Buck, is this the last
- 0:18Speaker 3: time we see Rhett where the EYEU hat? Or is
- 0:20Speaker 3: he going to proudly be wearing that hat next week
- 0:23Speaker 3: after the knockoff Notre Dame in the college football playoff?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I know, he's gonna wear the
- 0:30Speaker 1: hat regardless. But look, this is interesting. A lot of
- 0:33Speaker 1: people have this one pegged. It's almost like March Madness,
- 0:36Speaker 1: where people are always taking the five and twelve line.
- 0:39Speaker 1: I feel like people are just lining up taking the
- 0:41Speaker 1: hoosis because they feel like there's disadvantage that they have
- 0:44Speaker 1: over the fighting ards. I can't wait to see it.
- 0:47Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 0:47Speaker 5: I don't know how we're gonna stack up with all
- 0:49Speaker 5: that talent and all that prestige. Touchdown, Jesus, I don't
- 0:53Speaker 5: know how we're gonna do it. I really don't.
- 0:57Speaker 3: It's going to be there, He's going to be there,
- 0:59Speaker 3: so it's gonna to be taken to another level.
- 1:01Speaker 6: Win.
- 1:01Speaker 3: It's going to go to another level of of of
- 1:04Speaker 3: joy and exuberances, and if they lose, he'll be he'll
- 1:06Speaker 3: be way in the dunch. But we'll have plenty of
- 1:08Speaker 3: time to get to the college football stuff later in
- 1:09Speaker 3: the week. We've got a lot of NFL to get to.
- 1:12Speaker 3: First of all, here the.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Game of the week, maybe build as the game.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Of the year based off where these two teams were
- 1:18Speaker 3: in separate conferences, but Buffalo Detroit that it ended up
- 1:22Speaker 3: being a high scoring game shouldn't be a surprise, U Buck.
- 1:25Speaker 3: My first takeaway on this, I'll get it to you
- 1:27Speaker 3: and go around the horn here, but we can hit
- 1:29Speaker 3: it from all levels was two things. Number One, Josh
- 1:31Speaker 3: Allen and I posted this when when when the kids
- 1:34Speaker 3: were little and used to have a birthday party and
- 1:35Speaker 3: you go out in the backyard and they're like six
- 1:37Speaker 3: seven year olds and I'm the all time quarterback with
- 1:39Speaker 3: a nerf ball. That kind of felt like what it
- 1:41Speaker 3: was watching Josh Allen out there, like you try and
- 1:44Speaker 3: try and blitzy and just kind of sidestep them.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Get out of the way.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Just just looks like he's on another planet in terms
- 1:50Speaker 3: of talent and ability. That was my first thought My
- 1:53Speaker 3: second thought was with Josh Allen watched him the last
- 1:55Speaker 3: two weeks. I haven't looked at the the the architecture
- 1:58Speaker 3: plans for this new building, this new stadium in Buffalo,
- 2:01Speaker 3: but maybe we should make that a dome, if not already,
- 2:04Speaker 3: because seeing what Josh Allen his skill set does on
- 2:06Speaker 3: a fast track indoors, they're gonna score fifty points a game.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Yeah, he is unbelievable. I mean his MVP campaign is
- 2:14Speaker 1: like a runaway freight training right now. The last two
- 2:16Speaker 1: weeks where everyone had the opportunity to watch him on
- 2:19Speaker 1: the main stage, he is dominated. He's been nothing short
- 2:21Speaker 1: or brilliant. And I think what Josh Allen is and
- 2:25Speaker 1: I saw this stat like like what he's had three
- 2:27Speaker 1: straight seasons where he's had thirty five total touchdowns. Like then,
- 2:30Speaker 1: he's had like two seasons of twenty five passing touchdowns
- 2:34Speaker 1: and ten rushing. I mean, this remarkable numbers for a
- 2:38Speaker 1: guy who was a dynamic dual threat that we didn't
- 2:41Speaker 1: even think was a dual threat when he was at Wyoming.
- 2:43Speaker 1: He is one of the fascinating drafts stories that we
- 2:46Speaker 1: will talk about in years because I've never seen anyone
- 2:50Speaker 1: do what he has been able to do and accompls
- 2:52Speaker 1: with what he's accomplisces when we didn't really see some
- 2:55Speaker 1: of this stuff from him when he was at Wyoming,
- 2:59Speaker 1: you know.
- 2:59Speaker 5: And I think when you look at Josh Allen's impact,
- 3:01Speaker 5: you really have to look at it kind of holistically
- 3:03Speaker 5: because I think if you talk about the Bills defense,
- 3:06Speaker 5: right and you look at their eleven starters and you're like,
- 3:08Speaker 5: who's their best, you know who's there who they're eleven best, Well,
- 3:12Speaker 5: Josh Allen's not on the field, but he's probably their
- 3:14Speaker 5: twelfth best defender because like, he puts so much pressure
- 3:19Speaker 5: on the opposing team's offense that I feel like it
- 3:22Speaker 5: helps Sean McDermott in that defense kind of figure out
- 3:24Speaker 5: the way that they want to attack. The Lions came
- 3:26Speaker 5: into this game as one of the best rushing teams
- 3:28Speaker 5: in football with David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. I mean,
- 3:31Speaker 5: they only ran it and I see fifteen times in
- 3:34Speaker 5: this game. And look, having Matt Malano back on the
- 3:37Speaker 5: second level certainly helps Buffalo a little bit. But man,
- 3:40Speaker 5: when you can force Jared Goff to drop back and
- 3:42Speaker 5: throw it, you know, sixty times in the game, Yeah,
- 3:46Speaker 5: you're gonna have a game in which you know you
- 3:47Speaker 5: have Greg Rousseau and Ed Oliver dominate in pressures at
- 3:52Speaker 5: thirty four pressures in this game, Jared Goff every other
- 3:56Speaker 5: play he was getting pressured. And I think you know
- 3:59Speaker 5: that that offensive line for Detroit, you know, showed a
- 4:01Speaker 5: couple of cracks and what's been a pretty good foundation
- 4:05Speaker 5: for this renaissance under Dan Campbell. So I think ultimately,
- 4:09Speaker 5: when you look at Josh Allen's impact, it's not just
- 4:11Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Teach Yeah, on the Detroit side of things, though, they're
- 4:15Speaker 3: going to say we scored forty two points like that,
- 4:17Speaker 3: our defense couldn't get off the field. I mean, for
- 4:19Speaker 3: whatever issues we had protecting the quarterback. I mean, that's
- 4:23Speaker 3: the bigger concern for me is that. And I've said
- 4:25Speaker 3: this in terms of matchups, like if you we're to
- 4:27Speaker 3: the point now we can start looking to the playoffs
- 4:29Speaker 3: and the matchups that are gonna come. And I'm telling you,
- 4:33Speaker 3: man like the matchup that does not work for them
- 4:35Speaker 3: in the playoffs with the injuries they have and Ali
- 4:38Speaker 3: McNeil has now lost for the year, Aiden Hutchinson's out,
- 4:40Speaker 3: David Montgomery on the offensive side of the ball.
- 4:43Speaker 2: But to me, it's the defense there.
- 4:45Speaker 3: If they can't get pressure and they've lost two key
- 4:48Speaker 3: pieces of that defensive line now and you have Matthew
- 4:51Speaker 3: Stafford come back home and they have a rematch in
- 4:54Speaker 3: the playoffs without a full deck along the offensive line.
- 4:57Speaker 3: We've seen what Matthew Stafford can do to teams who
- 4:59Speaker 3: can't rush the quarterback. And you saw it in this game,
- 5:02Speaker 3: what Josh Allen did to that Detroit defense. That to me, Bucky,
- 5:05Speaker 3: if we're trying to take this and move this forward
- 5:08Speaker 3: of what this looks like, Man, it's starting to get
- 5:10Speaker 3: a little troubling there with the injuries mounting up for Detroit.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the funny thing is the season as
- 5:17Speaker 1: long as we talked about it being a marathon, and
- 5:18Speaker 1: we also talk about how you want to be peaking
- 5:20Speaker 1: at the right time going into the tournament. Unfortunately for
- 5:23Speaker 1: the Lions it seems like they may be limping into
- 5:25Speaker 1: the postseason and when it comes to matchups, the defensive
- 5:29Speaker 1: injuries really make it troubling. When you think about some
- 5:32Speaker 1: of the teams that could line up against you think
- 5:34Speaker 1: about the La Rams and all that they could you
- 5:36Speaker 1: talk about Matthew Stafford, but let's talk about some of
- 5:39Speaker 1: the other quarterback that they potentially could face. I mean,
- 5:42Speaker 1: they are a team that is struggling defensively because they
- 5:46Speaker 1: don't have the ability to rush the passer and they
- 5:48Speaker 1: may not have enough able bodies to cover. What could
- 5:53Speaker 1: be a remarkable season for the Detroit Lions could end
- 5:56Speaker 1: up being a one and down appearance in the postseason,
- 5:59Speaker 1: just to the war of a trip that they appear
- 6:00Speaker 1: to be on the losing side of.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got Minnesota coming up at the I believe
- 6:06Speaker 3: it's Week eighteen. Tampa Bay matches up. I saw We'll
- 6:09Speaker 3: get to Tampa Bay in a minute. And what they
- 6:11Speaker 3: look like a hot knife through butter the other day.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And that offense is rolling.
- 6:15Speaker 2: So it's interesting to see records put records to the side.
- 6:18Speaker 3: When you get in the postseason, it's kind of who's
- 6:20Speaker 3: playing their best and as they're getting there, and obviously
- 6:23Speaker 3: Buffalo has some warts on defense, but man, their offense
- 6:26Speaker 3: is humming and Detroit now they're starting to starting to
- 6:29Speaker 3: see a few cracks here as we come down the
- 6:31Speaker 3: home stretch.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Another great matchup.
- 6:33Speaker 3: It was the game of the week in the State
- 6:36Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania. I can promise you that Pittsburgh and Philly
- 6:40Speaker 3: a game that Philly. It looks lopsided from the score
- 6:43Speaker 3: twenty seven thirteen. It was pretty competitive for a long time.
- 6:46Speaker 3: But Rhett, we were on Thursday night the other day
- 6:49Speaker 3: and everybody's talking about Everyone wants to talk about AJ
- 6:52Speaker 3: Brown and how upset he is, and I'm like, wow.
- 6:54Speaker 2: This is news.
- 6:55Speaker 3: At eleven Huh, receiver not happy with targets like this
- 6:57Speaker 3: is very specific to one receiver in one team.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Haven't seen this before? Yeah, and what do they do?
- 7:03Speaker 3: Disagrees and come out and fed him the rock and
- 7:06Speaker 3: got his buddy Devonte Smith involved as well, and the
- 7:09Speaker 3: passing game looked just fine there in Philly.
- 7:12Speaker 5: Oh, look at the hugs, right, look at the dance
- 7:14Speaker 5: that they celebrated with. But look, I think when you
- 7:18Speaker 5: when you really look at this thing, and I know
- 7:20Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley didn't have the impact and looked like he
- 7:22Speaker 5: was a little banged up in this game too, Right,
- 7:25Speaker 5: But this is this is the right form, it feels
- 7:30Speaker 5: like for the Eagles offense, the right form you love. Right,
- 7:33Speaker 5: it's eleven targets for ay J Brown, twelve for Devonte
- 7:35Speaker 5: Smith ten plus for each of them. Saquon Barkley got
- 7:38Speaker 5: nineteen carries in this game. I think you'd probably like
- 7:41Speaker 5: to see Jalen Hurts come down, you know, into the
- 7:43Speaker 5: single high single digits or ten to eleven carries and give
- 7:46Speaker 5: Barkley a little bit more. I know that there was
- 7:47Speaker 5: an availability issue here too, so you take all that
- 7:50Speaker 5: into account. But that was that's what you want. Right
- 7:55Speaker 5: You're talking about thirty two attempts for Jalen Hurts and
- 7:58Speaker 5: then you're talking about out what about forty one rushes
- 8:03Speaker 5: when it's all said and done. Kenneth Gainwell got in
- 8:05Speaker 5: there with seven too. Like that feels like the way
- 8:08Speaker 5: that the Philadelphia Eagles should be operating. And they did
- 8:11Speaker 5: it against a really good defense in the Pittsburgh Steelers,
- 8:15Speaker 5: and it was it was pretty fun to watch. It
- 8:18Speaker 5: was a dominant effort. It felt like when you compare
- 8:20Speaker 5: the two offenses.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Yeah, look a really dominant effort when you look at
- 8:25Speaker 1: the offense, and right, I think you're right about the formula.
- 8:28Speaker 1: They had forty two rushing attempts, they were able to
- 8:31Speaker 1: throw the ball, They got the ball to their primary playmakers.
- 8:33Speaker 1: The funny thing is Devonte Smith and A. J.
- 8:35Speaker 6: Brown. It wasn't like they averaged.
- 8:37Speaker 1: A ton of yards per cats, but they were able
- 8:40Speaker 1: to be involved. Both of them went over one hundred yards,
- 8:42Speaker 1: but I think de Vinti Smith was a nine tonne.
- 8:44Speaker 1: AJ was a little more than that. But it's interesting
- 8:47Speaker 1: how the squeaky wheel gets the greased. The thing that
- 8:51Speaker 1: I'm worried about though, the eagles and they're bickering and
- 8:55Speaker 1: they're fighting. Just the little camera called Nick Sirianni trying
- 8:59Speaker 1: to go over to heard what are we try to
- 9:03Speaker 1: But then but then Clint, Clint Hurt kind of got
- 9:07Speaker 1: in the way. It was like, hold on, they'll go
- 9:08Speaker 1: talk to my guy. I just wonder about Nick Sirani
- 9:12Speaker 1: because whenever they put these things there, he certainly doesn't
- 9:15Speaker 1: look like the head coach. He looks more like the figurehead.
- 9:18Speaker 1: I just don't like the way they kind of portrays
- 9:20Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni as the ultimate leader of the squad.
- 9:23Speaker 2: I see. I think it's their identity.
- 9:25Speaker 3: I honestly don't mind it on the edge, it's it's
- 9:28Speaker 3: their identity, and it's it's a it's a city. It's
- 9:31Speaker 3: a city that lives like that, like it's a city
- 9:34Speaker 3: that is on like it's on eleven at all times
- 9:38Speaker 3: when you have all this conversation is their dissension and
- 9:41Speaker 3: as their issues in the locker room, and uh, there's
- 9:43Speaker 3: a lot of question marks on and I'm always curious
- 9:45Speaker 3: how those teams are going to get out the gate,
- 9:47Speaker 3: you know, how are they going to rally around each other?
- 9:49Speaker 2: What's it going to look like?
- 9:50Speaker 3: Well, the Eagles had one hundred and forty eight total
- 9:52Speaker 3: yards and ten points in the first quarter. Those were
- 9:54Speaker 3: both season highs. It's the first game they've had one
- 9:56Speaker 3: hundred plus total yards in the first quarter the whole season.
- 10:00Speaker 3: It's the most total yards in the first court of
- 10:01Speaker 3: a game by Philly since Week twelve of twenty twenty two.
- 10:05Speaker 3: So it was kind of like they were chomping at
- 10:07Speaker 3: the bit and couldn't wait to get out there. It
- 10:10Speaker 3: almost feels like, you know, Sirianni kind of to me
- 10:13Speaker 3: and bodies that when you're in the tunnel and the
- 10:16Speaker 3: guys are trying to get they're trying to fight their
- 10:18Speaker 3: way to get on the field.
- 10:19Speaker 2: They want the ready.
- 10:20Speaker 3: You gotta wait, you gotta wait, hold, you know, hold on,
- 10:22Speaker 3: just wait a second here, Like Sirianni's like that guy,
- 10:25Speaker 3: like he just wants to get out there and get
- 10:26Speaker 3: into it. And it's it's an intensity level that can
- 10:30Speaker 3: lead to some of those confrontations you've seen on the sideline.
- 10:33Speaker 3: But I think this particular team responds to it, you know,
- 10:37Speaker 3: like I like, I'll I'll give you another example here
- 10:39Speaker 3: Rhett and Buck follow that up too, But uh, like
- 10:43Speaker 3: Vic Fangio. Vic Fangio is a gruff kind of yell
- 10:48Speaker 3: at you mean, coach. How did that work in Miami
- 10:51Speaker 3: with that group of players. They don't want they didn't.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Respond to it.
- 10:55Speaker 3: In Philadelphia, they're kicking tail everywhere and they can't get
- 10:58Speaker 3: enough of it. So some cultures and environments they they
- 11:02Speaker 3: thrive off that kind of edginess and conflict. And I
- 11:05Speaker 3: think Philadelphia, because of the city and the culture there
- 11:08Speaker 3: that they've established.
- 11:09Speaker 2: For a long time. I think that's that's just who
- 11:11Speaker 2: they are.
- 11:13Speaker 4: That's an interestingly something to that too. Yeah, go ahead, Bud.
- 11:17Speaker 6: No no.
- 11:18Speaker 1: I was just gonna say it's an interesting takeaway, right.
- 11:21Speaker 4: I think you know.
- 11:25Speaker 5: You could say that DJ and you like you can
- 11:27Speaker 5: probably feel pretty good about it. But then you look
- 11:29Speaker 5: at last year and Obviously that was not a positive
- 11:33Speaker 5: situation when you had a lot of that drama kind
- 11:36Speaker 5: of creeping back in. Have they figured out a better
- 11:38Speaker 5: way to kind of compartmentalize it.
- 11:42Speaker 4: And use it for good on the field.
- 11:44Speaker 5: Maybe so, and maybe that's the growth of a team
- 11:46Speaker 5: year over year, But you know, you do kind of
- 11:50Speaker 5: wonder if there is a little bit of a boiling
- 11:52Speaker 5: point at some point, or if this is just the
- 11:55Speaker 5: way that they're going to be, and if that's it,
- 11:57Speaker 5: then you know, find ways to kind of squash it
- 12:00Speaker 5: happens on Sunday, squashing on Monday, move on and see
- 12:03Speaker 5: what happens the next Sunday.
- 12:04Speaker 4: Right, what's going to bubble up next Sunday?
- 12:07Speaker 2: Go ahead?
- 12:08Speaker 1: So no, so I want to go on the other
- 12:10Speaker 1: side because I think some of that kind of bumbed
- 12:12Speaker 1: up on Pittsburgh by just some of the disappointment from
- 12:15Speaker 1: UH watching their main players and not be able to
- 12:18Speaker 1: make the players that were there for them, Najia Harris
- 12:20Speaker 1: dropping the pitch when it appeared that they were going
- 12:22Speaker 1: in to score they were in the red zone, pass
- 12:24Speaker 1: some things, humming, just their inability to make effective tackles
- 12:28Speaker 1: on the perimeter and those things And what I like
- 12:30Speaker 1: about what Mike Tomlin talked about is like at the
- 12:32Speaker 1: end of the game, you just say, hey, this is
- 12:34Speaker 1: one where like it's a learning lesson in.
- 12:36Speaker 6: This we got to get better, we got to perform better,
- 12:38Speaker 6: we got.
- 12:38Speaker 1: To tackle better. But you still feel good about where
- 12:40Speaker 1: the team is. The problem is in the midst of
- 12:43Speaker 1: a touch stretch where man, you go from one heavyweight
- 12:46Speaker 1: fight to another heavyweight fight this weekend coming up on
- 12:49Speaker 1: Saturday when they take on the Baltimore Ravens. Hishord still
- 12:52Speaker 1: has got to bounce back quickly and we'll see what
- 12:54Speaker 1: they're made of in terms of how they respond against
- 12:56Speaker 1: the Ravens.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they're in the tournament, so you know, it's
- 13:01Speaker 3: gonna be interesting to see how these how they finish
- 13:03Speaker 3: out the year. You know, Are they like we were
- 13:05Speaker 3: talking about previously, Are they gonna sprint into the playoffs?
- 13:07Speaker 3: Are they gonna limp into the playoffs? A lot in
- 13:09Speaker 3: front of them there, so we'll see what that looks like.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Let's get one more in here before we take a
- 13:13Speaker 3: quick break at Green Bay Seattle. I went through that
- 13:18Speaker 3: video this morning, Buck, and uh, let's just say Seattle
- 13:22Speaker 3: had issues blocking the green Bay Packers, to say the least.
- 13:25Speaker 3: I don't know if you I went through the pressures
- 13:28Speaker 3: Lal Maya, who was starting at guard for Seattle, who's
- 13:32Speaker 3: kind of kickstarted their run game out of Utah sense.
- 13:34Speaker 3: He's been putting the lineup. He's done a good job
- 13:36Speaker 3: in the run game. But man, pass protection is an issue.
- 13:39Speaker 3: And when you have the dudes that they have with
- 13:41Speaker 3: DeVante Wyatt, Kenny Clark and company, that is not good
- 13:45Speaker 3: his h and and look, I'm you know me, I'm
- 13:48Speaker 3: not one who looks at PFF grades. I look at
- 13:50Speaker 3: the stats and and sort the video and watch the video.
- 13:54Speaker 3: But when I was watching the pressure video and I
- 13:56Speaker 3: scanned to the left and I saw his grade of
- 13:57Speaker 3: one point six, it did stand out to me as
- 14:00Speaker 3: as a grade that I had not seen before.
- 14:03Speaker 2: When it came to an offensive.
- 14:04Speaker 4: Line, that's on a scale of one hundred. Let's just
- 14:07Speaker 4: clarify that.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's not I've never seen that before. So uh.
- 14:11Speaker 3: But they and it wasn't just him. They had issues
- 14:15Speaker 3: blocking green Bay, and I guess we can look at
- 14:17Speaker 3: it buck from the green Bay side of things of
- 14:19Speaker 3: you know, they got some dudes up front. I've been
- 14:21Speaker 3: touting this Seattle front and how well they've played, and uh,
- 14:24Speaker 3: and they in this ball game.
- 14:25Speaker 2: It wasn't close. Green Bay just their front dominated the
- 14:28Speaker 2: ball game.
- 14:29Speaker 1: You know, one of the underrated acquisitions in the offseason
- 14:32Speaker 1: with Jeff Athlee leaving his head coaching position at Boston
- 14:36Speaker 1: College to be the decoordinator for the Green Bay Packers.
- 14:39Speaker 1: And what do you wanted to do was simplify things.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Wanted them to play aggressive, wanted them to be turnover obsessed.
- 14:45Speaker 1: And we're seeing that. But a lot of that stems
- 14:47Speaker 1: from the pass rush and the thing that you have
- 14:50Speaker 1: to me when I look at the green Bay Packers,
- 14:53Speaker 1: you have the marriage between the front office and the
- 14:55Speaker 1: coaching staff. If we're going to draft and develop and
- 14:57Speaker 1: build through the draft and the players did a coach
- 15:00Speaker 1: just have to put the players on the field and
- 15:02Speaker 1: let them do it. We've talked for years about the
- 15:04Speaker 1: number of first round picks that the Green Bay Packers
- 15:07Speaker 1: have committed on defense. When now you're seeing that pedigree
- 15:10Speaker 1: come through because they're in a scheme that allows them
- 15:13Speaker 1: to really showcase their talent, their athleticism and they.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Are getting it done.
- 15:17Speaker 1: And that Sunday night game really was a showcase to
- 15:20Speaker 1: how talented.
- 15:20Speaker 6: The Green Bay Packers are.
- 15:22Speaker 1: We talked about their offense all the time. Last night
- 15:24Speaker 1: was an opportunity to really rave about their defense and
- 15:26Speaker 1: how destructive and dominant they can be.
- 15:30Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I I agree with where you guys
- 15:34Speaker 5: are coming from. Just watching that game, you know, live,
- 15:36Speaker 5: you could kind of feel it, right, And look, they
- 15:39Speaker 5: knocked Gino Smith out of the game. Sam Howell has
- 15:41Speaker 5: to come in and finish that thing, And I think
- 15:43Speaker 5: that just that kind of tells you a little bit
- 15:46Speaker 5: about the physicality of this game. And look the way
- 15:50Speaker 5: that the Packers have kind of reinforced that from a
- 15:54Speaker 5: personnel acquisition standpoint. I mean, you look at their drafts
- 15:56Speaker 5: the last couple of years, right, you know, look at
- 15:59Speaker 5: the Vonte Wyatt, look at kway Walker, look at Edgrin Cooper.
- 16:03Speaker 5: You know, it was one of the players of the
- 16:04Speaker 5: game in this one. So like they have clearly made
- 16:08Speaker 5: that an emphasis personnel wise, and then feels like they've
- 16:11Speaker 5: certainly got the fit now with Jeff Hafley running the
- 16:14Speaker 5: show as their defensive coordinator. The other common theme that
- 16:18Speaker 5: I found, especially in these first three games that we're
- 16:20Speaker 5: talking about and actually in the next two that we're
- 16:22Speaker 5: going to talk about, it definitely rears its head as well.
- 16:25Speaker 5: And look, game flow obviously dictates some things when it
- 16:29Speaker 5: comes to your play selection on offense. Like you know,
- 16:32Speaker 5: when you're looking at the Bills Lions game. Obviously the
- 16:34Speaker 5: Lions were down in that game. You know, you're trying
- 16:36Speaker 5: to throw it to keep pace. But that's also something
- 16:38Speaker 5: that as we were talking about, the Bills forced you
- 16:40Speaker 5: to do. The Eagles forced you, you know, to come
- 16:42Speaker 5: out there and try to match them. Same thing with
- 16:44Speaker 5: the Packers in this game. Just looking at run to
- 16:48Speaker 5: run pass selection. The Bills on attempts outrushed the Lions
- 16:53Speaker 5: thirty four to fifteen in this one. Steelers and Eagles
- 16:55Speaker 5: it was forty one to seventeen. Packers and Seahawks it
- 16:59Speaker 5: was thirty four to sixteen, where it was just like
- 17:01Speaker 5: they were committed and then they were getting that that
- 17:04Speaker 5: kind of tough physical play on the defensive side of
- 17:06Speaker 5: the ball, and then they were kind of reinforcing it
- 17:08Speaker 5: on offense down the stretch as they were trying to
- 17:11Speaker 5: kind of, you know, hold onto those leads in.
- 17:13Speaker 4: Most of those cases.
- 17:14Speaker 5: But I just I thought that was just kind of
- 17:16Speaker 5: interesting to see how those those three big games kind
- 17:18Speaker 5: of went in terms of offensive play selection.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Especially as we come down the home stretch. Look, shouldn't
- 17:26Speaker 3: be a surprise as the weather gets colder, as the
- 17:28Speaker 3: games get more crucial, those teams that can run the football, Man,
- 17:32Speaker 3: it makes a big, big difference. And the first half
- 17:40Speaker 3: was not a cruise for Tampa. It was the first
- 17:44Speaker 3: half where the Chargers early on were going toe to
- 17:48Speaker 3: toe with them. But man, in the second half, it
- 17:50Speaker 3: was a boat race. To say they were cruising in
- 17:53Speaker 3: the boats, he had tied those thing together. Anyways, this offense,
- 17:58Speaker 3: and we'll get to the We'll get to the defense
- 18:00Speaker 3: and the blitzing and how how dominant Vidave is some
- 18:03Speaker 3: of the other pieces there. But I want to stay
- 18:05Speaker 3: on Tampa before we get to the Chargers.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Uh buck.
- 18:07Speaker 3: When I when I saw this offense live and in person,
- 18:11Speaker 3: they have some elements that that you don't appreciate till
- 18:14Speaker 3: you see it. First of all, Mike Evans, just give
- 18:17Speaker 3: him the gold jacket already.
- 18:18Speaker 2: I mean, like he is.
- 18:19Speaker 3: He's the best physical wide receiver in the NFL and
- 18:23Speaker 3: probably has been for his you know, his entire playing career.
- 18:26Speaker 3: He is so big, and he is so physical the
- 18:30Speaker 3: Chargers had no answer for him.
- 18:31Speaker 2: We start there.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield is very confident and comfortable in this offense.
- 18:35Speaker 3: This offensive line can move you in the run game.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Tristan Wurs is an absolute monster. The tight ends, i
- 18:42Speaker 3: think are the most underrated tight end group I've seen
- 18:44Speaker 3: this year. From what like you watch him on tape
- 18:46Speaker 3: and you see him in person with Otten in company.
- 18:49Speaker 3: They they are excellent blockers.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Yes, there you go.
- 18:53Speaker 3: They they are physical, they're blockers, they can run after
- 18:56Speaker 3: the catch. They're complete tight ends, and they they're creative
- 19:00Speaker 3: with how Liam Cohen designs this offense and then they
- 19:02Speaker 3: can hammer, hammer away, be physical. And in the second half,
- 19:05Speaker 3: as you guys were referencing Rhett you were bringing up
- 19:07Speaker 3: about the rushing attempts for these teams, all of a sudden.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Those body blows. Oh it was over. It was really
- 19:13Speaker 2: I think the Chargers had what fourteen or something.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Uh it was eleven, thirty nine, eleven eleven, Yeah, yeah,
- 19:19Speaker 3: thirty nine to eleven.
- 19:20Speaker 2: There you go.
- 19:20Speaker 3: It's uh, it's just a it was a second half
- 19:24Speaker 3: where they did whatever they wanted to do and they.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Were explosives everywhere in the run game the past game.
- 19:30Speaker 3: I just I came away from that going I've been
- 19:32Speaker 3: thinking that Tampa is kind of a little bit of
- 19:34Speaker 3: a fringe team. In the playoffs, we focused on those big,
- 19:36Speaker 3: those name brands. You know what's going to happen with Detroit?
- 19:39Speaker 2: Uh?
- 19:39Speaker 3: You know specifically that the Detroit the Eagles. I'm like, man,
- 19:42Speaker 3: I'm seeing that up close and personal. I don't know
- 19:45Speaker 3: that Wo'd be too excited Buck if I saw Tampa
- 19:47Speaker 3: in the playoffs the way they look right now.
- 19:50Speaker 6: Oh yeah. To think about Tampa, they changed right after
- 19:52Speaker 6: the Baibwek.
- 19:53Speaker 1: The last four games since to buy, They've had over
- 19:55Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty rushing yards in each of those performances.
- 19:58Speaker 1: As much as we talk about Baker Mayfield and Mike
- 20:01Speaker 1: Evans and how this team was previously constructed with Chris Godwin,
- 20:04Speaker 1: they were more of a throwing team, they have embraced
- 20:06Speaker 1: really the physical element of their personnel. They are a
- 20:09Speaker 1: team that can grind it out. You saw them get dirty.
- 20:12Speaker 1: They can produce explosive plays on the ground, and then
- 20:15Speaker 1: when you have Mike Evans on the outside, you always
- 20:17Speaker 1: have the ability to produce that explosive chunk.
- 20:20Speaker 6: Play through the air.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield talked after the game about how we had
- 20:24Speaker 1: to flip the script on the charge we had to
- 20:27Speaker 1: out physical.
- 20:28Speaker 6: Them because that's their calling card.
- 20:30Speaker 1: Well, if the Tampa Bay Buccaneers fully embrace that, if
- 20:33Speaker 1: that's who they are, that becomes their identity, they're going
- 20:36Speaker 1: to be a team that really lives in the bully
- 20:38Speaker 1: ball world. Man, good luck dealing with them because their physicality,
- 20:42Speaker 1: their toughness, and their ability to produce explosive plays on
- 20:46Speaker 1: the ground and through the air A lot to deal
- 20:48Speaker 1: with when you're getting ready for them in a single
- 20:50Speaker 1: elimation tournament.
- 20:53Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:54Speaker 5: And I think we've talked about this a couple of
- 20:56Speaker 5: times and you obviously got to see it now, you know,
- 20:58Speaker 5: in person, DJ, but the again and you look at
- 21:00Speaker 5: commitment to draft resources up front on the defensive side
- 21:03Speaker 5: of the ball, paying off right Vidavea, Elijah Knzi, Logan
- 21:07Speaker 5: Hall yah Ya Dabi. Those are big, physically framed dude. Yep, yep, definitely.
- 21:17Speaker 5: And and so you know, I think it's like, all right,
- 21:19Speaker 5: who do you want to be? Where do you feel
- 21:23Speaker 5: like we're best in terms of, you know, the type
- 21:25Speaker 5: of player we need on that side of the ball,
- 21:27Speaker 5: and they've had some continuity on that side of the
- 21:29Speaker 5: ball in terms of scheme for the last few years,
- 21:31Speaker 5: you know, as well with Todd Bowles, even going back
- 21:33Speaker 5: you know obviously to Bruce Arians. So it just feels
- 21:37Speaker 5: like they've got a nice marriage between you know, understanding
- 21:40Speaker 5: what the scheme needs, and then you know Jason Light
- 21:43Speaker 5: and his staff and and that whole crew going out
- 21:45Speaker 5: there and executing that and finding some you know, some
- 21:48Speaker 5: real fits and some real productive players. And obviously Vida
- 21:53Speaker 5: Vea certainly starts starts that conversation DJ up front.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a freak, and and get ready for that
- 22:00Speaker 3: game and studying it. I mean, it's it's some stuff
- 22:04Speaker 3: that nobody else does. I mean, we use the unicorn
- 22:06Speaker 3: word probably too much, but there is nobody like him
- 22:09Speaker 3: that has his combination of size, power, quickness, and he
- 22:12Speaker 3: wrecked Bradley Boseman in this game. He just gets constant
- 22:16Speaker 3: pocket pushed, which is a nightmare. You got to try
- 22:19Speaker 3: and run away from him when you're running the football.
- 22:22Speaker 3: You mentioned all those other guys, Kllijah Kanty's a really
- 22:24Speaker 3: really good player.
- 22:25Speaker 2: They have a good.
- 22:26Speaker 3: Front man, and that's a it's a it's a team
- 22:29Speaker 3: that's thoughtfully constructed by Jason light It's impressive.
- 22:33Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 22:33Speaker 3: To me, it was the biggest difference between what I saw,
- 22:36Speaker 3: like what I thought I was going to get, and
- 22:38Speaker 3: then sometimes you come out there and say, oh that
- 22:40Speaker 3: that maybe the charges didn't play well.
- 22:42Speaker 2: I mean, but the charges have been in every game
- 22:43Speaker 2: this whole year. They haven't been They've been treated like
- 22:45Speaker 2: this by anybody. This team came in here and physically
- 22:48Speaker 2: whooped them in every single way possible. It was not
- 22:51Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't. It was impressive.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Threat.
- 22:54Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was just kind of going back to it.
- 22:57Speaker 5: I was like, do you remember since you brought up,
- 22:59Speaker 5: you know, Mike Evans and the gold tag, do you
- 23:01Speaker 5: remember the draft conversation around Mike Evans when he was
- 23:04Speaker 5: coming out of a and m I felt like it
- 23:07Speaker 5: was like, man, big physical, you know, specimens probably a
- 23:10Speaker 5: little that was it?
- 23:11Speaker 4: Little? Yeah, yeah, a little bushes speed, but.
- 23:15Speaker 1: Yeah, straight line, a little tight.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Yeah, what are we talking about? Yard seasons?
- 23:20Speaker 2: What was his draft year?
- 23:23Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen?
- 23:24Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 23:25Speaker 2: Ten years man, I'll uh still do I know, I
- 23:28Speaker 2: I know, I uh. I think that.
- 23:30Speaker 4: Gots a seventh overall pick updated.
- 23:32Speaker 2: NF NFL dot Com. My old reports got got pulled,
- 23:35Speaker 2: so I can. I'll find. I'll tell you what. I'll
- 23:38Speaker 2: tease that, I'll find.
- 23:39Speaker 5: It's just kind of curious next you know, just see
- 23:42Speaker 5: what that looked like, you know, considering how productive he's been.
- 23:45Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was a draft. That was a Sammy
- 23:47Speaker 3: Watkins draft. You know, so Mike Evans was a seventh
- 23:51Speaker 3: player in that draft. I think he was where he
- 23:53Speaker 3: went well for thirty pick or a seventh pick.
- 23:55Speaker 2: There you go.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hindsight, hindsight it was too high in Greg Robinson.
- 24:01Speaker 3: But we'll leave that discussion for another day.
- 24:03Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you never know what makes them tick. You
- 24:07Speaker 1: never know what makes it.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Yeah, missing a little something there, but no, he was.
- 24:11Speaker 3: He was impressive. The other thing, Buck, I think sometimes
- 24:14Speaker 3: with running backs not being there, we don't appreciate some
- 24:18Speaker 3: of the other aspects of it.
- 24:20Speaker 2: JK.
- 24:20Speaker 3: Dobbins, you know, this run game has not been the
- 24:22Speaker 3: same since he's been out. And the other thing that
- 24:25Speaker 3: is way underrated. He is one of the best pass
- 24:28Speaker 3: protecting backs in the NFL. And with the way the
- 24:31Speaker 3: Bucks blitzed and they blitzed the Chargers, that's the I
- 24:34Speaker 3: believe the second most time that Herbert's been blitzing his
- 24:38Speaker 3: entire career. It was over sixty percent, sixty three percent
- 24:41Speaker 3: or something like that that he was blitzing this ballgame. Well,
- 24:44Speaker 3: that's Todd Bowles being smart. You don't have your you
- 24:47Speaker 3: don't have your starting running back in there. You've got
- 24:49Speaker 3: a rookie and Kamani Vadell and I've got one of
- 24:51Speaker 3: the best off the ballitz blitzing linebackers in NFL history,
- 24:55Speaker 3: and Levante David have fun with that and that was
- 24:59Speaker 3: a major problem. So I think some of these issues
- 25:01Speaker 3: with the Chargers can get corrected a little bit with
- 25:04Speaker 3: some health provided JK can get back before the end
- 25:06Speaker 3: of the year.
- 25:07Speaker 2: But that's a big hole, man.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a big hole to go back to
- 25:11Speaker 1: anything with Ty Bowles.
- 25:12Speaker 6: I don't think.
- 25:13Speaker 1: He's seen the list that he's never liked. I mean,
- 25:15Speaker 1: he doubts up pressure and one thing that you have
- 25:17Speaker 1: to know when they're back in the corner, they're bringing
- 25:19Speaker 1: pressure all around. And the crazy thing about the Tampa
- 25:22Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, DJ, we could talk about it like if
- 25:24Speaker 1: we're Marck drafting and doing whatever we were saying, you
- 25:26Speaker 1: know what, tamp needs some corners. It's like he doesn't
- 25:29Speaker 1: care what he has on the perimeter. He is going
- 25:31Speaker 1: to downard up. He's gonna bring pressure, he's gonna bring heat,
- 25:34Speaker 1: and he's gonna dare your quarterback to be able to
- 25:36Speaker 1: find the open man. Yeah, the Temp Bay Buccaneers are problematic,
- 25:39Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I'm not worried about the Chargers.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I think sometimes you kind of have to have one
- 25:44Speaker 1: of those beat downs that kind of have to wake
- 25:47Speaker 1: up call. Jim Harbaugh talked about this is the adversity.
- 25:50Speaker 1: We got to work out way through it. They'll work
- 25:52Speaker 1: their way through it, and I think.
- 25:53Speaker 6: They'll be better because of it because we will make.
- 25:54Speaker 1: Them better prepared for the postseason. And they've gone through
- 25:57Speaker 1: something like that against tamp Bay.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Buccaneers lost four in a row. Now one four in
- 26:01Speaker 4: a row.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Pretty good turnaround Tampa, Yeah, no question, And look at
- 26:05Speaker 3: the wins. Tampa has on their ledger to look at
- 26:07Speaker 3: the teams they've beaten. They've they've amassed some quality wins
- 26:11Speaker 3: on there being some good ball clubs's yeah, not too bad. Yeah,
- 26:17Speaker 3: Detroit fill to the top two teams in the NFC.
- 26:19Speaker 3: Let's keep it moving here to uh I guess we
- 26:22Speaker 3: can call them rets Denver Broncos with bow knicks, starting
- 26:25Speaker 3: off a little slow in this thing, but picking it up,
- 26:28Speaker 3: getting going. But to me, this is this is about
- 26:30Speaker 3: that defense as much as it is about their offense, right.
- 26:34Speaker 5: Man, that was obviously they were. They were aided by
- 26:39Speaker 5: uh Ad Ni Mitchell throwing a pass in this game,
- 26:42Speaker 5: which I don't know that that's gonna stick in the
- 26:45Speaker 5: in the playbook, but Nick Benito sure was happy to
- 26:48Speaker 5: take that the distance.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Man.
- 26:50Speaker 5: The turnovers were just insane this week. I felt like,
- 26:53Speaker 5: and this was one of those games. Broncos forced five
- 26:56Speaker 5: turnovers here and moved to nine and five, and.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Look they turned ball over a bunch of themselves.
- 27:01Speaker 5: I mean, bo Nicks, you know, had three turnovers, two
- 27:03Speaker 5: of them in the second half. But he stayed clean
- 27:05Speaker 5: to the fourth quarter when they were making that run.
- 27:07Speaker 5: And this this thing really to me came back to,
- 27:09Speaker 5: you know, the momentum shift by taking seven points off
- 27:12Speaker 5: the board with Jonathan Taylor letting the ball go for
- 27:14Speaker 5: the goal line.
- 27:15Speaker 4: They scored twenty four unanswered.
- 27:17Speaker 5: The Broncos did after that, I just you know, like
- 27:20Speaker 5: this this play here, great run by Taylor and just
- 27:23Speaker 5: kind of lose his focus right at the end, and
- 27:25Speaker 5: I just don't understand that wasn't the only time it
- 27:27Speaker 5: happened this week either. But I did want to go
- 27:30Speaker 5: back to some of the quotes that Sean Payton had
- 27:33Speaker 5: about bo Nicks, because this was obviously not the peace
- 27:36Speaker 5: the resistance for his rookie season and his offensive Rookie
- 27:40Speaker 5: of the Year campaign, which we've been touting on this
- 27:42Speaker 5: show quite a bit. I think when you look at that,
- 27:45Speaker 5: I thought it was kind of cool. Sean Payton was like, yeah, look,
- 27:47Speaker 5: it's not all on bow. I made some dumb calls
- 27:50Speaker 5: in this game, and I'll fix that and I'll be better.
- 27:51Speaker 5: I'll put him in a better position to succeed there.
- 27:55Speaker 5: And I think then he also, you know, mentioned let
- 27:58Speaker 5: me get the exact quote here. I think he was
- 28:03Speaker 5: talking about the moxie and the poise that b Nicks had,
- 28:07Speaker 5: and I remember, you know, just a couple of weeks
- 28:09Speaker 5: ago when the Broncos kind of began this run. You know,
- 28:12Speaker 5: I was talking about folks that I talked to there
- 28:14Speaker 5: in Denver and just talking about the maturity that bo
- 28:17Speaker 5: Nicks had, like when things, you know, are hitting a
- 28:20Speaker 5: fan and things aren't going well, he's the same dude, right,
- 28:23Speaker 5: So you can always look to the quarterback, even as
- 28:26Speaker 5: a rookie, to kind of reset and settle down, because
- 28:30Speaker 5: you know that he's got the right temperament to handle things,
- 28:33Speaker 5: not just when they're going well, but when they're going poorly,
- 28:35Speaker 5: even when he's performing poorly. So I just think for
- 28:38Speaker 5: a rookie, and again we come back to the experience factor,
- 28:42Speaker 5: the guy's seeing a bunch of football already, right and
- 28:44Speaker 5: is prepared for moments like these, as tough as they
- 28:47Speaker 5: might be.
- 28:47Speaker 4: And I think you know, Sean Payton.
- 28:50Speaker 5: Has as a real high degree of appreciation for that
- 28:52Speaker 5: part of Bonnix's game.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Buck. Yeah, And there's so.
- 28:57Speaker 6: Many things to talk about.
- 28:58Speaker 1: One I'm just trying to figure out, like how many
- 29:00Speaker 1: more highlights or low lights do we have to see
- 29:03Speaker 1: if guys dropping the ball before they get me into
- 29:06Speaker 1: I don't understand the fascination with it.
- 29:08Speaker 6: I don't.
- 29:08Speaker 1: Maybe red Nose like, maybe that was cool. Donal Louis don't.
- 29:12Speaker 6: Know about it. I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I don't understand it.
- 29:16Speaker 6: But man, that.
- 29:18Speaker 1: And the league for the Indianapolis Colts and for the
- 29:22Speaker 1: Annapolis Colts, like I want to say, they waste their
- 29:24Speaker 1: performance where they were clearly in control of the game
- 29:27Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it back. And there are people
- 29:30Speaker 1: that are upset in Indianapolis about Shane Styke and and
- 29:33Speaker 1: and Chris Ballad and all those things. But to me,
- 29:36Speaker 1: this team is good enough to be a playoff team.
- 29:38Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, man, they have hit the bumps
- 29:43Speaker 1: along the way. That's probably gonna keep them out of
- 29:45Speaker 1: the tournament unless some drastic happens for them over the
- 29:47Speaker 1: next four weeks.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Yeah, it appears to be on the outside looking in
- 29:52Speaker 3: at this point in time. Another team that's going to
- 29:54Speaker 3: be on that that's outside looking in more than like
- 29:55Speaker 3: he's Miami after they go to Houston and lose the
- 29:58Speaker 3: ball game there against the te I want to start
- 30:02Speaker 3: us off on this game and RTT take it from
- 30:05Speaker 3: the focus on Stroud and Stroud's not playing as well
- 30:08Speaker 3: as he did last year. He's turned the ball over more.
- 30:10Speaker 3: I broke that down on TV yesterday. Just some of
- 30:13Speaker 3: the things you see and some of us just look,
- 30:16Speaker 3: he's young player. He's just going to keep learning and growing.
- 30:18Speaker 3: And you go through a little thing like this I'm
- 30:20Speaker 3: not concerned about that, but I think in all the
- 30:21Speaker 3: discussion about Stroud, we forgot about the guy who was
- 30:23Speaker 3: picked right behind him, who was his teammate on the
- 30:26Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball, who's taking his game to
- 30:29Speaker 3: another level in Will Anderson and what he's done this year.
- 30:32Speaker 3: I think he's in double digit sacks now, but he
- 30:35Speaker 3: shows up every week when you watch him on there,
- 30:37Speaker 3: he's he is every bit as advertised. It doesn't seem
- 30:40Speaker 3: that long ago where there was the discussion about is
- 30:41Speaker 3: it going to be Tyree Wilson or is it going
- 30:43Speaker 3: to be Will Anderson?
- 30:45Speaker 2: Think about how these.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Little discussions buck buck, These little decisions that we sit
- 30:51Speaker 3: in draft rooms and debate, they have a long consequence. Now,
- 30:54Speaker 3: when you got to pick all the way up there
- 30:55Speaker 3: and you get the right one, it makes a big difference.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a big difference than to think about
- 31:01Speaker 1: the Will Anderson conversation. What should have been easy is
- 31:04Speaker 1: one the football character was outstanding. When we talked about
- 31:07Speaker 1: the work ethic, the leadership, what he displayed at Alabama,
- 31:10Speaker 1: you didn't look at the production. What is not to
- 31:12Speaker 1: like about what he displayed during his time with the
- 31:15Speaker 1: Crimson Tie but then back to back years, this dude
- 31:17Speaker 1: has been phenomenal and he really continues to challenge himself
- 31:21Speaker 1: to take it up a notch. And even though offensively
- 31:24Speaker 1: the Texans haven't been what we thought they would be,
- 31:26Speaker 1: defensively every bit as good as some of the top
- 31:29Speaker 1: teams in the league. To me, it's about them just
- 31:32Speaker 1: being on the same page because when they're locked in
- 31:34Speaker 1: on defense, Dimico ryans Man has a unit that can
- 31:38Speaker 1: pitch shut out and that is really going to be
- 31:41Speaker 1: key because as we think about the postseason and who
- 31:44Speaker 1: they may be lined up against him, how it may
- 31:46Speaker 1: play out matchups of everything, this defense gives them a
- 31:49Speaker 1: chance to win. And if CJ. Stroud can just find
- 31:52Speaker 1: some of what he displayed last year, yeah, this team
- 31:55Speaker 1: can be a tough out.
- 31:58Speaker 4: Boy.
- 31:58Speaker 5: Yeah, there were there were definitely some Dolphins offensive lineman
- 32:02Speaker 5: who took some l's in this game. I mean it
- 32:05Speaker 5: was I mean, there's just no way around it. I mean,
- 32:08Speaker 5: like that group up front for the Texans just absolutely
- 32:12Speaker 5: gets after it. I Mean, Daniel Hunter was one of
- 32:14Speaker 5: the best free agent acquisitions of the offseason, and then
- 32:17Speaker 5: obviously Will Anderson just continuing to ascend, and we kind
- 32:22Speaker 5: of I mean, like it was, what was it the
- 32:26Speaker 5: year before that Will Anderson was drafted, we were talking
- 32:28Speaker 5: about him being the number one overall pick.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Yeah, right, because he was that dang good.
- 32:31Speaker 5: And then you know we kind of had the that
- 32:34Speaker 5: first overall pick fatigue a little bit. You kind of
- 32:36Speaker 5: got like bored with Will Anderson just being really dang good,
- 32:39Speaker 5: and we're like, oh, maybe he shouldn't be the first
- 32:41Speaker 5: ed rusher off the board. Right, Well, let's remind ourselves
- 32:44Speaker 5: to not get bored with really good players, because that
- 32:47Speaker 5: was I mean, obviously the Texans didn't end up taking
- 32:49Speaker 5: him there at three, but when you look at what
- 32:51Speaker 5: he's doing in tandem with Daniel Hunter, and then you
- 32:54Speaker 5: know some of the stuff that they're getting from their
- 32:56Speaker 5: interior guys as well, like Tim Settle, Like how many
- 32:59Speaker 5: people thought that Tim Settle was going to be as
- 33:01Speaker 5: big of an acquisition as he's been. Tommy toky I
- 33:05Speaker 5: from Ohio State's getting in there and rotating in, you know,
- 33:08Speaker 5: on the interior along with Fullo Fatacasi. So like there
- 33:12Speaker 5: they have found you know, kind of similarly to what
- 33:14Speaker 5: we're talking about with the Bucks in the way that
- 33:17Speaker 5: they've found the pieces that fit. I mean, the Texans
- 33:19Speaker 5: upfront have certainly found the pieces that fit with Demko
- 33:22Speaker 5: Ryans wants to do on defense.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been it's been fun to watch this whole
- 33:26Speaker 3: group come together. Stingley was another one who might have
- 33:28Speaker 3: a little fatigue with prospect fatigue.
- 33:30Speaker 4: That's right with what he was.
- 33:32Speaker 2: He got a couple of picks in that ballgame.
- 33:33Speaker 4: Uh Buck.
- 33:34Speaker 2: Kansas City Cleveland.
- 33:37Speaker 3: I'll give you kind of the cliff notes here with
- 33:40Speaker 3: you know, Kansas City having the offensive line issues, Joe
- 33:42Speaker 3: Tooney kicks out to left tackle Miles Garrett, still had
- 33:46Speaker 3: double digit pressures. They still battered Ma Holmes. They you know,
- 33:50Speaker 3: Cleveland couldn't do anything offensively. They turned the ball over
- 33:52Speaker 3: rezillion times. Kansas City's defense generated those turnovers. Give them
- 33:55Speaker 3: credit for that. They they have been very consistent for
- 33:58Speaker 3: whatever the offense issues have been throughout the year, the
- 34:00Speaker 3: defense has been there every week. But my point, I'll
- 34:03Speaker 3: get to you it looks like Mahomes mild high ankle
- 34:06Speaker 3: sprain kind of day to day week to week. You know,
- 34:09Speaker 3: they've got a couple of games. They've got a Saturday
- 34:11Speaker 3: game followed by a Christmas game on Wednesday, so they've
- 34:14Speaker 3: got kind of two quick ones coming up here, but
- 34:16Speaker 3: I don't know that they can afford to. You know,
- 34:19Speaker 3: if he's able to get out there, it's tough to
- 34:21Speaker 3: seen him because you're gonna lose home field the Buffalo
- 34:23Speaker 3: if you do. So they've got some decisions to make
- 34:27Speaker 3: there with Mahomes. But the point I'm getting at is
- 34:30Speaker 3: this shouldn't be surprising the way Mahomes has been getting
- 34:33Speaker 3: hit behind this offensive line, that this is the risk
- 34:37Speaker 3: that comes along with that.
- 34:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it is the risk. They have been able to
- 34:41Speaker 1: like sufficiently protect them. And it was only amount of
- 34:43Speaker 1: time before he got banged around and I won't even
- 34:46Speaker 1: stay knocked out, but before he got banged around and
- 34:49Speaker 1: had an injury that potentially get thread in his availability
- 34:53Speaker 1: down the stretch in the various season.
- 34:55Speaker 6: He's what we do know.
- 34:56Speaker 1: We'll talk about it like, oh, he's questionable, he may
- 34:58Speaker 1: not play. He's gonna play number fifteen if he takes
- 35:01Speaker 1: the ball.
- 35:01Speaker 6: Whenever he's able to do it. He would have went
- 35:03Speaker 6: back in the game if he had.
- 35:04Speaker 1: To on Sunday.
- 35:06Speaker 6: But this is what he does.
- 35:09Speaker 1: The thing that you got to do. I know that
- 35:10Speaker 1: you're playing musical chair it's not ideal this late in
- 35:12Speaker 1: the season to be shuffling the deck when it comes
- 35:15Speaker 1: to the offensive line, Andy Reid and that step. They
- 35:18Speaker 1: got to come up with answers. Who are the best
- 35:20Speaker 1: route they're going to put out there out there to
- 35:22Speaker 1: protect number fifteen. They need to figure that out quickly,
- 35:25Speaker 1: because I don't think you can keep playing musical chairs
- 35:27Speaker 1: as you're going to determine.
- 35:31Speaker 5: It does feel like it's the ankle injuries. I mean,
- 35:34Speaker 5: just continue to mount from our homes and you do
- 35:37Speaker 5: kind of want to yeah, all right, mild high ankle. Yeah,
- 35:39Speaker 5: but like, is there a is there a like a
- 35:42Speaker 5: recurring effect here that kind of limits, you know, just
- 35:45Speaker 5: how much better you can get in the framework a
- 35:48Speaker 5: couple of week to week rehabit recovery situation. I'm like you, Bucky,
- 35:51Speaker 5: I have no doubt that he'll be out there, but
- 35:55Speaker 5: you do start to wonder, like, you know, how much
- 35:58Speaker 5: how much can you expect of him when you have
- 36:02Speaker 5: needed all of him and more in an unusual year.
- 36:06Speaker 5: Well maybe it's not unusual, but in a year in
- 36:08Speaker 5: which they have been less than you know, what we
- 36:11Speaker 5: typically expect from the Chiefs on offense. So I don't
- 36:15Speaker 5: know on this one. I know, you know, Carson Wentz
- 36:17Speaker 5: will prove to be valuable if he's got to go.
- 36:20Speaker 5: Obviously came in and finished that game off. But I'm
- 36:23Speaker 5: not going to doubt Mahomes. I'm I'm just going to
- 36:27Speaker 5: be intrigued to see how it all works out, considering
- 36:30Speaker 5: how mobile he has had to be behind that offensive
- 36:33Speaker 5: line and how much that will continue with that group
- 36:37Speaker 5: being you know, a.
- 36:39Speaker 4: Little bit patchwork.
- 36:39Speaker 5: And I would imagine Joe Toney after going up against
- 36:42Speaker 5: Miles Garrett a couple of times, and this one, you know,
- 36:45Speaker 5: is probably going to be very comfortable moving back to guard.
- 36:47Speaker 4: Whenever that time comes.
- 36:50Speaker 3: You think, all right, we're gonna go rapid fire here
- 36:58Speaker 3: through these last few games.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Rhett Washington, New Orleans.
- 37:02Speaker 5: Uh.
- 37:03Speaker 3: One of those games that look kind of bad and ugly,
- 37:04Speaker 3: all of a sudden you end up you look up
- 37:06Speaker 3: at the end of the game like, holy croud, this
- 37:07Speaker 3: ended up being a good game.
- 37:09Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 37:09Speaker 5: I mean, look, I think you credit Darren Rizzy. I mean,
- 37:11Speaker 5: the Saints are playing hard, and they're they're playing hard
- 37:14Speaker 5: down to stretch in a season that that likely has
- 37:16Speaker 5: no postseason birth on the on the back end, of it,
- 37:19Speaker 5: and you know, I think that's say something about how
- 37:22Speaker 5: they respect him. I will say that they certainly got
- 37:25Speaker 5: a boost at the end. The clock mistakenly stopped at
- 37:30Speaker 5: the end, allowing them the extra time to get down
- 37:33Speaker 5: their spike it and get that potential that touchdown that
- 37:36Speaker 5: would have allowed a tying extra point or a potential
- 37:39Speaker 5: go ahead two point conversion.
- 37:40Speaker 4: They opted for the two and didn't get it.
- 37:43Speaker 5: I was just very happy to see, uh, the old
- 37:46Speaker 5: fantasy stack of Jayden Daniels and Terry McLaurin showing up
- 37:49Speaker 5: for me in the fantasy postseason tween two?
- 37:54Speaker 2: Is that enough to get you the win?
- 37:55Speaker 1: Though?
- 37:56Speaker 4: Oh it is.
- 37:56Speaker 5: You better believe it. Yeah, you better believe I'm not
- 37:59Speaker 5: just I'm winning next competition.
- 38:01Speaker 3: Nicks Bo Nicks had three touchdowns for me on my
- 38:05Speaker 3: on my fantasy I had mccacke. That's fine. They still
- 38:08Speaker 3: scored a bunch of points. McConkie got in the end zone,
- 38:11Speaker 3: had a had a you know, solid day there.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Who was my BTJ BTJ block?
- 38:16Speaker 4: What did betj? M'd have been a good one for you.
- 38:18Speaker 4: I'd have been a good one for you.
- 38:20Speaker 1: He had a monster game. He had over a hundred yards.
- 38:22Speaker 6: He was doing his thing.
- 38:23Speaker 3: That don't count that roocky fantasy win just yet, all right,
- 38:30Speaker 3: buck Cincinnati Tennessee. Uh, Tennessee, no boy, no for them
- 38:35Speaker 3: as they uh bench Will Levis in that one. But Cincinnati,
- 38:39Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, they're they're uh, they're putting up some points. Man,
- 38:41Speaker 3: They're not dead yet.
- 38:43Speaker 1: Yeah, they're end enough points. But Joe Burrow is frustrated.
- 38:46Speaker 1: Everyone knows the competitor that he is, the fact that
- 38:48Speaker 1: they having to put up all these points in defensively,
- 38:50Speaker 1: they're still having problems even the score down on their end,
- 38:54Speaker 1: particularly against a team like Tennessee that were struggling with
- 38:57Speaker 1: Will Levis. Joe burrows frustration continues to get the best
- 39:01Speaker 1: thing we saw in the interaction that he had with
- 39:03Speaker 1: Jack Taylor. Despite having the firefighter and the weapons that
- 39:06Speaker 1: they have offensive with Jamar Chase t. Higgins, guys that
- 39:09Speaker 1: can get down, guys that can spit out those hunt
- 39:11Speaker 1: of yard games like the ATM machine, they don't have
- 39:14Speaker 1: enough to win and to be a playoff participant because
- 39:17Speaker 1: their defense is lagging way behind. I understand the frustration
- 39:21Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow has because this might have cost him
- 39:24Speaker 1: an MVP run because the numbers are certainly MVP caliber
- 39:27Speaker 1: from Joe.
- 39:28Speaker 3: B Yeah, speaking of MVP, I think Joe Burrow belongs
- 39:32Speaker 3: in that conversation with Josh Allen with this guy right
- 39:35Speaker 3: here in Lamar Jackson who just continues to put up
- 39:39Speaker 3: big numbers. Five touchdowns for or fewer incompletions for the
- 39:44Speaker 3: third time in his career. So that's most NFL history
- 39:47Speaker 3: if you're wondering. That's a good saucy nug for you.
- 39:49Speaker 3: The Ravens nine and five, and all of a sudden,
- 39:51Speaker 3: now you've got the Ravens and the Steelers in a
- 39:53Speaker 3: little bit of a dog fight here for this division
- 39:56Speaker 3: there in the AFC North, the Giants two and twelve.
- 40:00Speaker 3: Their quarterback for twenty five is not on their roster. Now,
- 40:04Speaker 3: it's just a matter of can they show a little
- 40:06Speaker 3: bit of life to show that you've got some competitive fight.
- 40:09Speaker 3: But then let's also not won a ball game and
- 40:11Speaker 3: jeopardize our draft stock. So that's that's the challenge there
- 40:15Speaker 3: for the New York Giants. But look up, and all
- 40:16Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Baltimore Ravens are starting to hit
- 40:18Speaker 3: their stride a little bit, and they are built for
- 40:22Speaker 3: this time of the year, and Lamar Jackson is playing
- 40:24Speaker 3: at a very, very high level. And we've got a
- 40:26Speaker 3: two for tonight here, Buck, starting with Chicago and Minnesota.
- 40:30Speaker 3: What are you looking forward to in this one?
- 40:32Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to seeing the Minnesota Vikings and
- 40:34Speaker 1: if Sam Donald can continue to do the wonderful stuff
- 40:37Speaker 1: to he've done under the direction.
- 40:38Speaker 6: Of Kevin O'Connell.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Dam Jonah has been outstanding this season.
- 40:42Speaker 6: For the Minnesota Vikings to the.
- 40:43Speaker 1: Point where you're like, well, maybe they should keep him.
- 40:45Speaker 1: I know JJ McCarthy's ready at waiting, but let's see
- 40:49Speaker 1: if we can keep this thing going. When I look
- 40:50Speaker 1: at Jordan Adathson and Justin Jefferson, TJ. Hockinson returning to
- 40:53Speaker 1: form Aaron Jones behind him, there are a lot of
- 40:56Speaker 1: things that are really working for the Vikings, but Sam
- 40:59Speaker 1: Donald is the x act for this team.
- 41:00Speaker 6: As they get down the.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Stretch, they're angling an inching close in towards toppling the
- 41:05Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I want to see if they can take
- 41:08Speaker 1: care of business against Chicago Bears and Sam Donald be
- 41:11Speaker 1: the special player that he's been this season.
- 41:14Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.
- 41:15Speaker 5: I'm looking for competency from the Bears, which which we
- 41:18Speaker 5: haven't haven't seen in the last few weeks, but which
- 41:21Speaker 5: I guess sets the bar fairly low. But for the Vikings,
- 41:24Speaker 5: I mean, the more like we go forward on this thing,
- 41:26Speaker 5: the more this feels like the forty nine Ers from
- 41:29Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. Right, You've got you've got
- 41:31Speaker 5: a top pick rookie quarterback and you know you haven't
- 41:35Speaker 5: really seen him yet. And now you've got this this
- 41:37Speaker 5: guy that maybe you didn't count on taking the league
- 41:40Speaker 5: by storm. Obviously, you know Darnold is in a little
- 41:43Speaker 5: bit of different situation in terms of acquisition compared to
- 41:46Speaker 5: brock Party, But dang, they're playing so good it makes
- 41:49Speaker 5: you feel like, why why mess with a good thing?
- 41:51Speaker 4: Here?
- 41:51Speaker 5: I think this will be a really interesting decision for
- 41:53Speaker 5: the Vikings as we move forward here.
- 41:56Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching the Bears and seeing if
- 41:59Speaker 3: we can see more the second half San Francisco Caleb
- 42:02Speaker 3: Williams and company, then the first half drought that we
- 42:06Speaker 3: saw with that offense, and I want to see I
- 42:08Speaker 3: want to see one two run.
- 42:09Speaker 2: That's what I'm keeping an eye on this game. One
- 42:11Speaker 2: two run. One's not there. I'm and two's not there.
- 42:13Speaker 2: I'm running.
- 42:14Speaker 3: I'm not hanging in the pocket if I'm Caleb Williams
- 42:16Speaker 3: and waiting for number three, because number three is gonna
- 42:18Speaker 3: result and you getting a hand up after you've been
- 42:21Speaker 3: peeled off the ground by this Minnesota Vikings front. So
- 42:24Speaker 3: I want to see can they operate a little bit
- 42:26Speaker 3: quicker with your decision making there? Caleb in that offense
- 42:30Speaker 3: there with the Bears, Rhett Atlanta and Vegas.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Go ahead?
- 42:34Speaker 4: My powers.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Is on your Is he on your team? Is he
- 42:39Speaker 2: on your rookie team this week?
- 42:41Speaker 5: I don't know that he's on my rookie team this week.
- 42:42Speaker 5: I just like, that's that's what I want to watch
- 42:44Speaker 5: in this game. And and that's that's, uh, you know,
- 42:47Speaker 5: like what else do you want to look for? I mean,
- 42:49Speaker 5: like this is if you, certainly, if you're a Raiders fan,
- 42:51Speaker 5: like this is. That's that's the price of admission for
- 42:54Speaker 5: you is going to see Rock Bauers play. Because he
- 42:56Speaker 5: is an absolute star in this league already and they
- 43:00Speaker 5: just got to keep finding more ways to get him
- 43:02Speaker 5: the football. And I know, obviously the quarterback situation has
- 43:06Speaker 5: definitely been less than ideal this year. They are one
- 43:09Speaker 5: of those teams where the quarterback is not on their
- 43:11Speaker 5: roster either, and they'll be fighting with the Giants. So
- 43:13Speaker 5: that number one overall pick down the stretch here look
- 43:16Speaker 5: for the Falcons. It's getting late, right, It's time to
- 43:18Speaker 5: make your stand, and you know, Kirk Cousins has got
- 43:20Speaker 5: to figure it out or it is literally going to
- 43:23Speaker 5: be too late with the way that the Buccaneers are playing.
- 43:25Speaker 3: Teach Well, I'm just looking at the first thing I
- 43:28Speaker 3: looked at, Buck, was where is this game at? Because
- 43:32Speaker 3: if it's at Atlanta and Kirk Cousins is turning the
- 43:35Speaker 3: ball over and not playing well, now this becomes a
- 43:38Speaker 3: major national talking point when you can have some bose
- 43:41Speaker 3: and the calls for Michael Pennix. The fact that this
- 43:43Speaker 3: is at the Raiders and they're having a down year.
- 43:45Speaker 3: I don't anticipate it'll probably be a full house at
- 43:47Speaker 3: that ball game, but the conversation still will take place
- 43:51Speaker 3: if Kirk doesn't play better.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Buck, Yeah, Kirk is on the clock, Like you have
- 43:56Speaker 1: to play better. There are people that are calling for
- 43:58Speaker 1: Michael Pennis to get the ball and earned the ball
- 44:00Speaker 1: over to the level that Kirk Cousins has turned it over.
- 44:03Speaker 6: Yeah, your job is in jeopardy.
- 44:05Speaker 1: I want to see how he bounces back, I responded,
- 44:07Speaker 1: And can he make the game easy for himself by
- 44:09Speaker 1: making sure that Jean Robinson and Til those years touched
- 44:13Speaker 1: the ball enough that now you can create those easy
- 44:15Speaker 1: opportunities on the parameter, big game for Kirk.
- 44:17Speaker 6: Cousins, a lot on the line.
- 44:18Speaker 1: He needs to step up and for going well. Well.
- 44:21Speaker 3: The other side of this is, uh, you know, we
- 44:23Speaker 3: don't use the T word when we're talking about these
- 44:25Speaker 3: teams that are not having good years. But if you're
- 44:28Speaker 3: a Raiders fan, I don't know which team you're rooting
- 44:30Speaker 3: for tonight. I don't I think I know which one
- 44:33Speaker 3: you should probably be rooting for. But that's taboo, so
- 44:36Speaker 3: you know, we'll see it's it's a lot on the
- 44:39Speaker 3: line in terms of the draft order and the positioning
- 44:41Speaker 3: with so many teams so closely in the standings there
- 44:45Speaker 3: as we march towards the spring and and really the
- 44:48Speaker 3: season of hope for a team like the Raiders who
- 44:50Speaker 3: need it in a big, big way. All right, that's
- 44:53Speaker 3: going to do it for us. Today covered a lot
- 44:54Speaker 3: of ground. We've got a lot to get to this week,
- 44:56Speaker 3: including Retz Hoosiers. All right, Bucky and I gonna pick
- 44:59Speaker 3: him to win. You have to stay tuned this week.
- 45:02Speaker 3: We'll we'll research right here on Move the sticks.
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