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Mega Edition: The DOJ Claims There Is Nothing New In The Epstein/Maxwell GJ documents (10/18/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: At this article from the Palm Beach Post, and let's
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  Speaker 1: see what author Jane Musgrave has to say. Headline. Judge
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  Speaker 1: expects to release sex offender, pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein's 2006 grand
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  Speaker 1: jury transcript. The document is expected to shed light on
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  Speaker 1: why the financier, pedophile, wasn't punished more harshly after teens
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  Speaker 1: say he lured them to his mansion to have sex. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you why. Because he was friends with
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  Speaker 1: all of the people who were in charge. When you
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  Speaker 1: got a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress and
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  Speaker 1: pumps on your wall, pretty safe to assume that you're
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  Speaker 1: connected on high. So that's why nothing happened to him.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why he scored this sweetheart deal. What I
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  Speaker 1: hope this does, I hope it exposes everybody who was involved.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody who was involved, I hope that there's repercussions
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  Speaker 1: for them. Will there be? Probably not. Should there be
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  Speaker 1: 100 percent? A Palm Beach County judge Friday signaled he
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  Speaker 1: would release secret grand jury records that could explain why
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  Speaker 1: serial molester Jeffrey Epstein didn't face serious charges for sexually
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  Speaker 1: assaulting dozens of teens at his Palm Beach mansion more
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  Speaker 1: than a decade ago. I'm probably going to release the records,
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  Speaker 1: Circuit Judge Donald Hatfield said after listening to the Palm
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  Speaker 1: Beach Post's arguments about why the transcripts of a 2006
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  Speaker 1: grand jury hearing should be made public. Hatfield didn't make
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  Speaker 1: a final decision. He said he would summon attorneys back
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  Speaker 1: to court when he has his mind made up. So
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  Speaker 1: it's looking like he's going to release this shit. And
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  Speaker 1: if he does, boy, it's going to be explosive. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think people understand who haven't been following this case
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  Speaker 1: how important this is. how crucial this information is. Because
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  Speaker 1: what it's going to prove is that this profile that
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  Speaker 1: we've been building of Jeffrey Epstein, of him being this
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  Speaker 1: so-called elite member of society, all of that gets built
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  Speaker 1: on this because normal people don't catch these deals. Who
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  Speaker 1: was pulling the strings from on high? My guess is
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  Speaker 1: it was Mukasey. But he said there are a few
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  Speaker 1: reasons to keep the record secret. The politically connected money
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  Speaker 1: manager is dead. Pedophile. In August 2019, at age 66,
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  Speaker 1: he hung himself in a Manhattan jail cell, allegedly, while
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  Speaker 1: awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges that could have sent
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  Speaker 1: him to prison for 45 years. Imagine, 45 years? It
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  Speaker 1: enrages me to hear that. Only 45 years, huh? Put
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  Speaker 1: a few zeros on the end of that. How about 4,500 years?
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  Speaker 1: This sick fucking guy. And all of his sick fucking friends.
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  Speaker 1: I have had a belly full of these people, folks.
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  Speaker 1: I have had a belly full. And their smug, stupid attitudes,
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  Speaker 1: the dumb smirks on their faces in every picture, and
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  Speaker 1: the way they continue to treat us as chattel. I
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  Speaker 1: have had enough. So I'm over here waiting for everybody
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  Speaker 1: else who is carrying the pitchforks and the torches right
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  Speaker 1: now over all of the other manufactured bullshit to come
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  Speaker 1: to their senses and join me. Your enemies aren't your
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  Speaker 1: friends on the internet. Your enemies aren't your relatives who
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  Speaker 1: voted differently than you. These are your enemies, folks. Wake up!
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  Speaker 1: Since then, dozens of his survivors have publicly talked about
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  Speaker 1: the abuse he inflicted upon them at his mansion in
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  Speaker 1: Palm Beach, his ranch in New Mexico, his New York
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  Speaker 1: penthouse apartment, and his private island in the Virgin Islands. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: never an investigation in New Mexico... Not a state investigation. Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody ever kicked in any doors in New Mexico. I
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  Speaker 1: bet you drug dealers are getting their doors kicked in
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  Speaker 1: as we speak in New Mexico right now, though. But
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  Speaker 1: if you kidnap indigenous women, if you abuse women there,
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  Speaker 1: you traffic women, rape them, no big deal. As long
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  Speaker 1: as you have a couple of bucks and you're politically connected.
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  Speaker 1: Have you folks not seen the absurdity of it all?
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  Speaker 1: None of these people care about you. Not Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 1: not Merrick Garland, not Donald Trump, not Bill Barr, none
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  Speaker 1: of them. You are nothing but a piece on a chessboard.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about something that happened in 2006, as opposed
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  Speaker 1: to now, Hafil said, emphasizing that the passage of time
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  Speaker 1: factored heavily into his decision-making. Release may shed light on
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  Speaker 1: punishment Epstein received. If the records are released, the grand jurors,
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  Speaker 1: those who testified, and any co-conspirators won't be identified, he said.
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  Speaker 1: The names will be redacted. Oh, of course they will be.
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  Speaker 1: So about that transparency I was talking about, huh? Right
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  Speaker 1: back at it. Why are you going to redact it?
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  Speaker 1: Why won't you just let us know who the co-conspirators are?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you guys so secretive about that? I'm fired
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  Speaker 1: up this morning, folks, if you can't hear it in
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  Speaker 1: my voice. I'm so sick of this bullshit. And I
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  Speaker 1: cannot wait for this trial to get underway. I just
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to see the smug smile wiped off her face.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of her friends, I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: see them running for the hills. The court will review
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  Speaker 1: each and every shred of documentation, so those involved in
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  Speaker 1: the process are protected to the fullest extent of my ability,
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  Speaker 1: Halfhill said. Attorney Steven Mendelson, who represents the Post, said
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  Speaker 1: the newspaper had no interest in exposing the names of
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  Speaker 1: those who testified or those of the grand jurors. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: he said the records are needed so the public can
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  Speaker 1: learn why Epstein wasn't dealt with harshly. After dozens, folks, dozens, dozens,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually hundreds of teens told Palm Beach police they
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  Speaker 1: were lured to his mansion to give him massages and
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  Speaker 1: then they were pressured to have sex. Had he been
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  Speaker 1: prosecuted to the full extent of the law, the lives
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  Speaker 1: of many others could have been spared, Mendelsohn said. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why we are where we are, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: When he was out on his little extended stay, when
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  Speaker 1: he was only sleeping at the jail, he was still
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  Speaker 1: raping and abusing people. But nah, nobody should be responsible
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  Speaker 1: for it. Everybody should just wipe their hands clean and
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  Speaker 1: keep it moving. These are the same people that demand
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  Speaker 1: responsibility out of you. These are the same people that
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  Speaker 1: make demands of your body via abortion or medicine or
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And yet they can't even hold
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  Speaker 1: these people accountable when they're raping and abusing children. I
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  Speaker 1: can't be the only one who finds this all absurd, right?
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  Speaker 1: Attorney Shane Voight, who represented Palm Beach County Clerk of
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  Speaker 1: Courts Joe Abruzzo, said the office didn't object to the
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  Speaker 1: release of the records that it is legally required to maintain.
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  Speaker 1: The clerk can't do anything without a court order, Voight said.
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  Speaker 1: They will comply with the court order. oh, well, isn't
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  Speaker 1: that nice? I mean, at least he'll comply with the
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  Speaker 1: court order and all. I mean, shh, wow. The Palm
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  Speaker 1: Beach Post sued for the release of transcripts in 2019.
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  Speaker 1: The paper filed suits seeking to force the clerk to
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  Speaker 1: release to the grand, excuse me, to force the clerk
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  Speaker 1: to release the grand jury transcripts in 2019. Its investigation,
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  Speaker 1: the first failure, detailed how the Palm Beach County State Attorney,
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  Speaker 1: Barry Krischer, torpedoed the child molestation case that Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: police built against Epstein. Instead of listening to police or
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  Speaker 1: the victims, Krischer instead was swayed by Epstein's high-octane defense team,
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  Speaker 1: including the famed attorney, Alan, I kept my underpants on, Dershowitz.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, Dershowitz was involved, considering the allegation against him
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  Speaker 1: by Virginia. You'd think he'd have a, uh, a, a,
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  Speaker 1: a reason for being involved here, huh? You know, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of motivation for Mr. I Kept My Underpants On,
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  Speaker 1: the naked volleyballer from Martha's Vineyard. Imagine being a prosecutor
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  Speaker 1: and getting end-rounded by Alan Dershowitz. Absolutely getting cucked and schooled.
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  Speaker 1: What an embarrassment Barry Krischer is. You had the complete
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  Speaker 1: power of the United States government behind you. and you
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  Speaker 1: let this crypt-keeping, naked volleyball-playing, bullshit-prattling, molester-defending son-of-a-bitch torpedo you. You,
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  Speaker 1: Barry Krischer, are voted off of the island. Krischer first
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  Speaker 1: offered to let Epstein plead guilty to aggravated assault. Under
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  Speaker 1: the proposed deal, Epstein wouldn't be jailed, and, if he
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  Speaker 1: complied with the terms of probation, his criminal record would
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  Speaker 1: be erased. When that deal fell apart, Krischer took the
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  Speaker 1: case to the grand jury. While at least 13 underage
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  Speaker 1: girls told police Epstein molested them, only one 14-year-old girl
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  Speaker 1: was called to testify. That's because they knew if they
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  Speaker 1: called all 13, they couldn't make this sweetheart deal appear
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  Speaker 1: for them. Am I the only one who's following here?
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  Speaker 1: And meanwhile, while all of this is happening, folks, I
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  Speaker 1: hope you're ready for this, your beloved Congress, okay, that
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  Speaker 1: was going to change everything after the election? Well, they're
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  Speaker 1: busy going after the Washington football team's emails and still
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  Speaker 1: have no desire to dig into this story. Ask yourselves why,
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  Speaker 1: and then say to yourselves, why did I vote for
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  Speaker 1: these people to send them to Congress if they're worried
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  Speaker 1: about the NFL and the emails there, but not about
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  Speaker 1: children being molested and sold into slavery? How anyone can
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  Speaker 1: come to terms with that is beyond me, but here
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  Speaker 1: we are. Our Congress is an absolute dumpster fire. They're
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  Speaker 1: an embarrassment, and they're leading us down a road of disaster.
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  Speaker 1: Sources told the Post that prosecutors quizzed the teen about
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  Speaker 1: her MySpace pages, which featured posts about boys and drinking.
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  Speaker 1: Her social media accounts had been provided to Krischer's office
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  Speaker 1: by Epstein's defense team record show. And of course, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what teenage girl doesn't have a couple of drinks or
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  Speaker 1: talk about boys? That's so out of character, it just
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  Speaker 1: makes her a non-credible witness, huh? Miss me with all
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  Speaker 1: of that shit. The idea of the prosecutor getting in
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  Speaker 1: bed with a defense team to move this forward, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the parts of this case that really
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  Speaker 1: ignites me and launches me into orbit, if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: been able to tell with the way I've been acting
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  Speaker 1: during this podcast today. It is unseemly to me that
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  Speaker 1: this many girls can come forward and only one of
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  Speaker 1: them is asked to testify. Police had asked Krischer to
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  Speaker 1: charge Epstein with four counts of unlawful sexual activity with
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  Speaker 1: a minor and one count of lewd molestation. The charges,
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  Speaker 1: punishable by maximum 30 and 15-year sentences, respectively, could have
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  Speaker 1: sent Epstein to prison for decades. No Mann Act. No RICO.
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  Speaker 1: Ask yourselves why. It's good for R. Kelly, though, right?
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  Speaker 1: It's good for Rainieri, but not Epstein? Well, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you why. My opinion? It's because Epstein was being protected
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  Speaker 1: by people in the government. while the other guys, well,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't. Instead, the grand jury indicted Epstein on a
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  Speaker 1: single charge of solicitation of prostitution. By then, an outraged
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  Speaker 1: Palm Beach police chief, Michael Ryder, had taken the case
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  Speaker 1: to the U.S. Attorney's Office. After months of negotiation with
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's defense team in Krischer, South Florida U.S. Attorney, Alex Acosta,
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  Speaker 1: crafted a secret non-prosecution agreement Here's where I diverge from
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  Speaker 1: most here. I don't think that Alex Acosta crafted this agreement.
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  Speaker 1: He's a mid-level bureaucrat. This came from on high, Mukasey
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  Speaker 1: and friends. If Epstein would plead guilty to two state
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  Speaker 1: prostitution charges, Acosta agreed to shell the 60-page federal indictment
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  Speaker 1: that had been prepared against him. As part of that agreement,
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  Speaker 1: Krischer added a charge of soliciting a minor for prostitution.
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  Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors insisted on it because it would force Epstein
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  Speaker 1: to register as a sex offender. So that was their, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's a sex offender. We made him register at least.
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  Speaker 1: That was their mea culpa. Man, F you guys. This
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  Speaker 1: whole entire thing is gross and I won't let it go.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? Until someone rectifies this situation and people
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  Speaker 1: are held accountable, me and my beard are going to
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  Speaker 1: be yelling about this. Epstein ultimately pleaded guilty to two charges.
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  Speaker 1: He served 12 months of an 18-month sentence in the
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  Speaker 1: Palm Beach County Stockade, a cell block he was allowed
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  Speaker 1: to leave for 12 hours a day, six days a week.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, it was like he was some kind of
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  Speaker 1: mafioso in the old days in Sicily. Oh, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in prison. Meanwhile, he built the prison. He employs
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  Speaker 1: all the guards. Basically, what's going on here? You think
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  Speaker 1: that would happen to you, your cousin Jeff? Your friend Mike? No,
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  Speaker 1: it only happens for the so-called elite and because they
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  Speaker 1: have these politicians in their pocket. Now run home and
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  Speaker 1: tell Merrick Garland that. Epstein also agreed to settle lawsuits
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  Speaker 1: that were filed against him by nearly three dozen women
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  Speaker 1: he sexually assaulted. handled many of those cases, along with
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  Speaker 1: one Epstein filed against attorney Bradley Edwards, who represented dozens
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  Speaker 1: of young women who sought to bring their molester to justice.
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  Speaker 1: Having presided over those cases, Hatfield said he was all
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  Speaker 1: too familiar with the allegations against Epstein and voiced dismay
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  Speaker 1: at how the young women were treated by the criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system. These women were not victims, he said, of
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  Speaker 1: how the teens were portrayed. They were done both criminally
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  Speaker 1: and And in front of this court, yes, they were.
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  Speaker 1: They were multiple times victims, but they became survivors. Courts
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  Speaker 1: more willing to release grand jury records at least years afterwards.
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  Speaker 1: If Hathfield agrees to release the grand jury records, it
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  Speaker 1: would be the first time in the county's history that
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  Speaker 1: the public has gotten an inside look at the secret proceedings.
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  Speaker 1: But in recent years, judges have been more willing to
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  Speaker 1: pierce the veil of secrecy, particularly in high-profile cases. Most
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  Speaker 1: of the releases came years after the fact. Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: better late than never, right? But you all know how
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  Speaker 1: I feel about transparency, especially at this point. It needs
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  Speaker 1: to be a more transparent process. In 2008, a New
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: York judge agreed to release most of the records of
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  Speaker 1: the Grand Jury proceedings that led to the 1950 espionage
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  Speaker 1: indictments of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. The couple was tried, convicted,
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  Speaker 1: and executed for passing atomic bomb secrets to the Soviet Union.
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  Speaker 1: In 2015, additional testimony was released that historians said raised
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  Speaker 1: questions about Ethel Rosenberg's involvement. Historians also pushed for the
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  Speaker 1: release of testimony of President Richard Nixon that he provided
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  Speaker 1: at Watergate after he left office in 1974. In 2011,
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  Speaker 1: A judge in Washington, D.C. ordered the transcripts to be
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  Speaker 1: made public, and they are now available online. Hafil said
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  Speaker 1: the Epstein case is unique. Any decision he makes would
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  Speaker 1: be carefully tailored to ensure it can't be used to
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  Speaker 1: open the floodgates of requests to release grand jury documents. Still,
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  Speaker 1: he said understanding what happened in the Epstein case could
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  Speaker 1: help others who are survivors of sex trafficking. These survivors
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  Speaker 1: are not unique, he said. While highly publicized, these kinds
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  Speaker 1: of cases are going on as we speak, with victims
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  Speaker 1: who are not victims of a wealthy Palm Beach resident,
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  Speaker 1: but by people who likely have as much control over them.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a fact. This is happening all over the
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  Speaker 1: world right now. Every county, in every state, in every nation, everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: there are people running these sorts of organizations and criminal enterprises.
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  Speaker 1: The question is, What are our authorities and our elected
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  Speaker 1: officials going to do about it? From where I'm sitting,
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  Speaker 1: seems they're more concerned about the emails in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: than they are about your kids being trafficked or abused.
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  Speaker 1: And that, in my opinion, is absolutely unacceptable. We have
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  Speaker 1: to demand more from our elected officials. And we can't
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  Speaker 1: do that if we're continuously fighting with one another. So, folks,
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  Speaker 1: I implore you. Take a look behind the curtain and
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  Speaker 1: realize who the real enemy is. If you'd like to
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  Speaker 1: contact me, you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com.
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  Speaker 1: That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can also find me on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. The link that we discussed
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: will be posted in the description box. All right, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I hope you all have a great... What's up, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Stop
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  Speaker 1: the presses. The Department of Justice has graced us with
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  Speaker 1: an earth-shattering revelation. The grand jury transcripts in the Glenn
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell case contain nothing new. Zip. Nada. Just a recycled
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  Speaker 1: pile of the same old filth that we've all seen
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  Speaker 1: smeared across court documents, media leaks, and survivor testimony for years.
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  Speaker 1: What a shocker. What a twist. Who could have possibly
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  Speaker 1: predicted that the DOJ, our fearless gatekeeper of justice, would
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  Speaker 1: waste everyone's time confirming the obvious? So let's just call
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  Speaker 1: this what it is. A nothing burger with extra distraction sauce.
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  Speaker 1: A theatrical shrug from the very agency that sat on
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  Speaker 1: its hands for decades while Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking children
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  Speaker 1: like he was running a carpool. This is the DOJ
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  Speaker 1: popping out of its hidey hole like a groundhog to
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  Speaker 1: tell us, don't worry folks, no bombshells here. As if
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  Speaker 1: anyone was expecting them suddenly to grow a spine and
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  Speaker 1: admit they buried half the case to protect their buddies
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  Speaker 1: in high places. And what exactly do we think they
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: were going to say? That the transcripts contained smoking guns?
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  Speaker 1: That maybe there were names, important names they forgot to prosecute? Please.
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  Speaker 1: These people couldn't find a conspiracy if it bit them
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  Speaker 1: on the face, signed a non-disclosure agreement, and gave them
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  Speaker 1: a campaign donation. And that's because this isn't about transparency. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: it's a sleight of hand act. Look over here at
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  Speaker 1: the grand jury transcripts they say, while the real crimes,
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  Speaker 1: financial crimes, intelligence ties, institutional rot, remain untouched, uninvestigated, and
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  Speaker 1: conveniently ignored. The DOJ's job at this point seems less
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  Speaker 1: about prosecuting predators, and more about laundering public outrage into
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  Speaker 1: procedural dead ends. And let's not forget, This entire nothing
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  Speaker 1: new stunt is their way of patting themselves on the
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  Speaker 1: back for keeping the vault sealed. Because if there's nothing new,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: then surely there's no reason to keep asking questions, right?
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  Speaker 1: No reason to keep digging. No reason to unseal records,
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  Speaker 1: track money trails, or God forbid, interrogate the fact that
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: half the people who orbited Epstein are still out there,
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  Speaker 1: free as birds, counting money, and sleeping easy. You want
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to talk about an insult wrapped in bureaucracy? This is it.
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  Speaker 1: The survivors have bled in public for years. They've named names.
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  Speaker 1: They've given dates. They've endured cross-examinations and public doubt and
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  Speaker 1: courtroom trauma. And now, instead of justice, they get this
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  Speaker 1: little DOJ press puff? We checked. Nothing new here. As
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  Speaker 1: if justice was a checklist. As if closure was a formality. So, congratulations, DOJ.
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  Speaker 1: You've confirmed what everyone already knew. You opened the closet,
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  Speaker 1: took a peek inside, and shouted to the world, no
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  Speaker 1: new skeletons. Meanwhile, the mansion is still full of corpses
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  Speaker 1: you never bothered to exhume. Clap for yourselves. That's the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: performance you're running now. Justice Theater. Tickets available on Pacer,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: popcorn sold at J.P. Morgan, and the curtain never closes.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Today's article is from ABC News and the headline, Grand
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Jury Transcripts in Ghislaine Maxwell's Case Contain Nothing New According
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to a DOJ Filing. This article was authored by Aaron Katursky.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Much of what the Justice Department wants a federal judge
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to unseal from the Ghislaine Maxwell Grand Jury Investigation is
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: already known, and at least so far, the Attorney General
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: is seeking to unseal nothing else according to new court
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: filings on Tuesday. And I'll have that court filing for
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: you in full either today or tomorrow. That way you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: can take a look at it yourself and see what
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the DOJ has to say. The Justice Department turned over
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a version of the Maxwell grand jury transcripts that identifies
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: which information is not already publicly known. That annotated version
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: shows that much of the information provided during the course
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: of the grand jury testimony, with the exception of the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: identities of certain victims and witnesses, was made publicly available
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: at trial or has otherwise been publicly reported through the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: public statements of victims and witnesses, the filing said. Well,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: no shit. The whole entire point of what the DOJ
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: was doing was obfuscation. trying to show you, hey, look,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: we care, we're concerned, we're doing something about this, we're investigating.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, if they were investigating, they wouldn't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have come out without memo. They wouldn't have said, look,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: there's nothing left to see here and no more information
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for any of you. The truth is, Trump didn't expect
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the blowback that he got. So they had to scramble
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and try to figure things out on the fly. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: this is not the story to do that with. There's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: way too much information out there and way too many
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: people know the scoop. And we're not talking about a
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: JFK kind of situation. The people who are involved, a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: lot of them are still alive. So if you want
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the truth, all you have to do is listen to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: what they're saying. But instead, the DOJ decides to go
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: get in bed with a serpent, bend over backwards for her,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and give her accommodations. Does that sound like justice to you?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Does that sound like the DOJ cares about the victims
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and the survivors of Epstein and Maxwell? It certainly doesn't
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: look like that to me. Instead, it looks like the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: DOJ is trying to cover their own ass. The Justice
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Department is asking two federal judges in New York to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: unseal grand jury transcripts in the Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein cases.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: It's not asking the judges to unseal the grand jury exhibits,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: though the Attorney General asked for several more days to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: consider its position with respect to unsealing of the grand
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: jury exhibits, the filing said. They have no desire to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: show you anything that's real or anything that's of note.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: They want to recycle information and give you shit we
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: already know. What they're counting on is a lot of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: people not understanding the story and thinking they're getting something new.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: And it's just like with that first phase release they
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: did with the white binders. They have no idea what
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they're talking about with this story. They tried to use
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it for political gain and it blew up directly in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: their face. And now they're in scramble mode to try
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and save face as much as possible. But at this point,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible. They just keep digging the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: hole deeper for themselves. The Epstein grand jury met twice
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: on June 18th, 2019 and July 2nd, 2019 before he
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was indicted on charges accusing him of sexually exploiting and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: abusing dozens of minor girls. The Maxwell grand jury met
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on June 29th, 2020, July 8th, 2020 and March 29th, 2021.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Before she was indicted on charges, she conspired with Epstein
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to entice minors to travel so they could engage in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: illegal sex acts. And not only that, we all know
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: she was abusing them. And I gotta keep bringing that up, obviously,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: because these articles leave it out. And while trafficking human
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: beings is one of the most horrible things you could
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: ever do, abusing children, in my opinion, is the most
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: heinous act one can engage in. And if you're engaging
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in that kind of behavior, you should be put under
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the jail, not sent to Camp Brian. Maxwell was convicted
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and is serving a 20-year prison sentence at an all-female
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: federal prison camp in Brian, Texas, where she was recently
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: moved from a minimum security prison in Tallahassee, Florida. The
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Justice Department said it has provided notice of the unsealing
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: motions to all but one of the victims who were
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: referenced in the grand jury transcripts. Federal prosecutors have been
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: unable to contact the remaining victim. Probably in hiding. Probably
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to the DOJ because the DOJ
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: keeps screwing them. Imagine if it was your daughter who
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: was abused by Maxwell and you wake up to this news. Oh,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell, the DOJ's new darling, has been moved to Bryan, Texas. What?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Am I dreaming? Did I take LSD before I went
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to bed last night? How's that even possible? Well, it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: possible because you have a DOJ that's more concerned with
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: protecting its donors and the people that are friendly to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the administration than they are when it comes to pursuing
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: justice in the matter of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell's crimes.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And that's been proven to us time and time again.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: That's not speculation. That's not hyperbole. It's a fact. With
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: respect to the victims who are not identified, In the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: grand jury transcripts, but who have previously received victim notification
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in the Maxwell and Epstein matters, the government will over
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the coming days alert those victims to the fact of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the unsealing motions, the filing said. On Monday, the court
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: placed on the docket letters from anonymous purported Epstein victims
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: criticizing the Trump administration's approach. Look, I've heard directly from
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: survivors and none of them are happy with what's going on.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: None of them, not one of them. And that's because
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: they were promised transparency, and instead, they get more roadblocks,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: more obfuscation, and more bullshit. This should be a really
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: easy matter. All the information's there. classify whatever is classified
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: as far as victim names, victim identification. But besides that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: everybody else who's named in those documents should be outed.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And of course, it doesn't mean that you were taking
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: part in what Epstein was up to, but that doesn't
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: erase the fact that you had a relationship with him,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that you were friendly with him, and you might have
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: some information that's important to blowing the doors off the
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: whole case. Maybe some of these people saw some of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: those unnamed girls from Eastern Europe. Maybe some of them
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Know some of these Brazilian girls that were brought in
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: through MC squared. Or what about the girls in Guatemala
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: or Ecuador? Or what about the girls in Yugoslavia? What
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: about the girls in Ukraine? These are all the hunting grounds,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the fertile hunting grounds that Jean-Luc Brunel was using to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: bring girls in for Epstein. And if you think any
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: of them are confident in what's going on as far
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: as the way the DOJ is handling things, you're crazy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: There's no way. So if the DOJ is handling things
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like this, why would anyone come forward at this point
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and add their name and their voice to the growing storm?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Just going to cause them more trouble. And obviously, nobody's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: interested in any kind of justice. So why should anyone
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: come forward? Now, if you flip the script and the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: DOJ was bringing in survivors and victims of Epstein and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Maxwell and talking to them, well, we'd have a different conversation.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: But unfortunately, we don't. And in my opinion, That's all
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: by design. All of the information that goes with this
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box. What's up
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, you can't talk about
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: accountability without centering it on the survivors. But time and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: time again, that's exactly what has happened. From the moment
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Epstein's sweetheart deal was inked in secret, shielding him and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: his co-conspirators without even notifying the women and girls he abused,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the system has treated those survivors not as central voices
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: but as inconvenient footnotes. The non-prosecution agreement, or MPA, was
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a betrayal. The survivors were silenced, not in a court
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: of law, but by omission. They were denied their right
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to participate, to be heard, to even know that justice
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was being bartered behind closed doors. And here we are,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: years later, with Epstein dead, Maxwell sitting in a minimum
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: security resort, and survivors once again being pushed to the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: sidelines while politicians, prosecutors, and pundits jockey for position in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: what's increasingly feeling like another round of performative justice. And
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: let me make this crystal clear to all the people
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: in the back. The survivors are not just part of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the story, they are the story, and they're the reason
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that any of this ever came to light. Every road
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to truth, every path to justice runs through them. You
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: don't fix this without them. You don't get to talk
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: about transparency while cutting them out of the conversation. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the current administration, along with every single government official who
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: claims to want to set things right, would do well
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to remember that. Because the moment that you forget the survivors,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you're not fighting for justice anymore. You're just managing headlines.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And the women and girls Epstein and Maxwell abused? They
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: deserve more than that. Much more. Today's article is from Politico,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and the headline, Epstein Victims Speak Out. This smacks of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a cover-up. The author of this article is Erica Orden.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell are alarmed over
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the Justice Department's effort to unseal grand jury testimony in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: their cases and its cooperation with Maxwell, a convicted sex offender.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't think I can stress this enough. Imagine
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: being one of these women who were abused by Glenn
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Maxwell and you wake up to the news that she
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: was moved to a low security facility where she gets
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to do yoga, hang out with her new bestie, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: live her best life. How is that fair to the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: kids that were abused? How is that fair to the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: women who were abused? Several victims in letters from their
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: lawyers have balked at the department's approach, saying it smacks
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of a cover-up, calling aspects of it cowardly, and arguing
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that it demonstrates the Trump administration considers the victims at
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: best an afterthought. Well, considering that the government is speaking
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: with their abuser and not talking to them, how exactly
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: should they feel? Should they be ecstatic about it? Should
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: they be happy doing jumping jacks, throwing a party? And
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: is it any shock that they all feel like an afterthought,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: considering the way they've been treated time and time again?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And it's still going on. Everybody wants to jump down
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the rabbit holes. Everybody wants to talk about the salacious bullshit.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: But when you get down to it, the real story
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: is right here. And the people who live that nightmare,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: the people who came out the other side, they've been
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: telling their story for some time now. And all these
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: politicians who act like they care, they've ignored them. But
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: now that it's a political hot button issue, everybody has
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: something to say. All of a sudden, everybody's cared from
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the very beginning. Well, if that's the case, where was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the big uproar when the NPA came out? When we
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: found out about that, how come nobody initiated any kind
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of committee to try and do away with it? Because
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it was during that time that the government ignored these
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: survivors and and didn't even tell them that they were
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: entering into the plea deal with this piece of garbage
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. And ever since then, they've been an afterthought
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the government. And not only to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the government, to a lot of people that cover the case.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, the survivors are the case. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: unless you know their stories, and you know what they
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: have said before, and you've read the court documents, you've
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: listened to testimony, you've heard their first-hand accounts, then you
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: don't know the full story in HD. because you have
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to listen to the people that lived it, right? Not
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: some podcaster, not me, not anybody. The actual women who
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: went through it. Listen to what they have to say.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And that's why I do the In Their Own Word series,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: so that you folks can hear directly from these women
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and what they went through. And they warn the Trump administration,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: with its treatment of Maxwell, is on the precipice of
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: undoing the only measure of justice the victims received, From
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a sex trafficking ring that, by the government's own account,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: harmed more than 1,000 girls and young women. And that's
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: another thing I said right away. The one little bit
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of justice we have here, you're going to snatch that
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: away too? I mean, it's all just mind-numbing. And it's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: truly all indefensible. And anybody trying to defend it, you're
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: just outing yourself as a true partisan. Because there are
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: certain issues that come along in life. where politics just
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: go to the side. For people who really care about justice,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: politics are an afterthought. And when it comes to a
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: thousand girls and children being abused by this man and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: his alleged associates, political debates and political beef should never
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: get in the way of that. Every single decent person
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: should agree that anybody that's operating in the manner that
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was operating in should be taken up in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a helicopter and and thrown directly into a fucking volcano.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't want to hear any yeah buts.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: There are no yeah buts anymore. That ship has sailed
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: a very long time ago, and people are tired of
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: getting bullshitted. People are tired of being gaslit, and people
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: are tired of the so-called elite treating other people like
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: they're disposable. In letters to the federal judge fielding the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: government's request to unseal the material's Victims have largely, though
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: not entirely, agreed with the Justice Department's move to reveal
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: the testimony, despite the fact that the department itself has
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: acknowledged that much of the information is already public. But
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: they have derided the administration's suggestion that it will seek
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to redact not only victim information, but also other personal
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: identifying information of third parties from the transcripts. Do you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: really think that they'd be redacting anything for me or you?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Of course not. we'd be outed as the disgusting pigs
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that we are. And deservedly so. If you're enjoying Jeffrey
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Epstein's largesse, if you're breaking bread with this piece of shit, well,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you should be outed. Doesn't mean you were diddling anyone,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: but you should be outed as an enabler. And as
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I've said from the very start, we have rings to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: this shit. And just because you weren't involved in the
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: actual abuse, doesn't mean you weren't complicit. And when I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: say complicit, it could be something as mundane... as refurbishing
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: this man's image. Hanging out with him, going to his parties.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: That makes you an enabler. If you were providing girls
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to him, you were managing the schedule, you were doing
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: anything like that, well, you're complicit. You're a co-conspirator. And
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: then of course, if you were actually partaking in the abuse,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you're a fucking child molester. So those are the three
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: rungs in the Jeffrey Epstein orbit. So sure, there's no
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: doubt that if your name is in the files, it
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you were diddling people. But were you
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: enabling him? Were you helping refurbish his image? Were you
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: going to his parties? Were you pumping air into his tires?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Because if you were doing anything like that and you
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: were giving him legitimacy, well, give yourself a round of applause.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Because that credibility, that cover that you gave him, that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: helped him continue to abuse girls all the way up
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: to the second arrest. So all these people that are
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: out here talking about, oh, I have no idea who
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was, but we're at his house every other day.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: They should probably just own up to the fact that
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: they were friends with the dude and that they were
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: spending a lot of time with him. But they won't
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: even do that. So what are we left with? We're
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: left with a bunch of people that are bullshitting, obviously.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Because if they cared about justice, if they cared about
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the truth, they would have already told it. And they
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: expressed fear and disgust over the administration's recent treatment of Maxwell,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: who is serving a 20-year prison sentence for sex trafficking.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: After a pair of interviews with a top DOJ official,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Maxwell was transferred to a less restrictive facility, an unusual
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: upgrade in her prison accommodation. She has also advocated for
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a pardon from President Donald Trump, who has reiterated he
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: has the power to grant her clemency. And imagine all
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the nonsense over pardons recently. And then to even entertain
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the thought of Ghislaine Maxwell getting one? Sure, why not?
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: How about El Chapo next? How about El Mayo? Hell,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? What about Ed Kemper? I mean, if
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: we're going to be ridiculous, let's just be ridiculous. Maxwell
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: has said that she opposes the unsealing of the material
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: since she is in the midst of attempting to overturn
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: her conviction. Epstein, her longtime associate and one-time boyfriend, you
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: mean co-conspirator, right? Died by suicide in jail in 2019
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. The DOJ declined
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: to comment. Allegedly died in jail. Who's buying that? Not
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: to digress too much here and jump off topic, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: come on. I don't even think the government believes that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I think they're just saying it to say it so
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: they can avoid the shitshow that would come in the aftermath.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Most of the letters sent to U.S. District Judges Richard
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Berman and Paul Engelmeyer have been filed by lawyers for
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: victims with the names of the victims undisclosed or redacted.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Bradley Edwards, Brittany Henderson, and Paul Cassell represent numerous victims
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: including some whose names they said appear in grand jury
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: materials and who testified at Maxwell's trial. In a letter
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to the court, they said their clients could support unsealing
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: only if extreme care is taken to protect victims. That
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: has to be the number one concern. All the other bullshit,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't even care. If your dumbass was hanging out
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: with Epstein while he was molesting girls, you should be outed.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: The survivors support transparency when it can be achieved without
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sacrificing their safety, privacy, or dignity, they wrote. But transparency
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: cannot come at the expense of the very people whom
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the justice system is sworn to protect, particularly amid contemporaneous
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: events that magnify risk and trauma. The public platforming of Ms.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Maxwell as a purportedly credible commentator despite her sex trafficking, conviction,
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  Speaker 1: and perjury charges, her transfer to lower security custody, a
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  Speaker 1: government request to unseal filed without conferral, and the looming
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  Speaker 1: specter of clemency. All valid concerns. Again, imagine being one
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  Speaker 1: of these girls. Like it's one thing for us to
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: sit here and comment and then move on with our lives.
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  Speaker 1: It's the whole ass other thing to live in a
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  Speaker 1: recurring nightmare that never ends. And make no mistake about it,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of these women are living in a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: The lawyers especially took aim at what they said was
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the Justice Department's failure to consult the victims or their
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  Speaker 1: attorneys before seeking to unseal the records, a step they
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  Speaker 1: said is not only required by law, but one DOJ
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  Speaker 1: has previously failed to take in the Epstein saga. 100%. 100%.
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  Speaker 1: And they got their asses reamed by a judge over
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  Speaker 1: this situation because they refused to tell the survivors about
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  Speaker 1: the plea deal. In 2019, a federal judge found that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: federal prosecutors in Florida had broken the law by signing
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  Speaker 1: a non-prosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein without notifying the victims.
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  Speaker 1: The 2007 agreement was struck by prosecutors led by Alex Acosta, incorrect,
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  Speaker 1: who at the time of the judge's ruling was Trump's
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of Labor during the first term. No, Acosta was
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  Speaker 1: the middleman. Hate to keep saying it, but I guess
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  Speaker 1: people haven't heard yet. It's especially troubling that despite the
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  Speaker 1: outcome of that litigation, the government has once again proceeded
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  Speaker 1: in a manner that disregards the victim's rights. suggesting that
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  Speaker 1: the hard, learned lessons of the past have not taken hold, Edwards, Henderson,
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  Speaker 1: and Cassell wrote. They also urged the judge not to
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  Speaker 1: consider the unsealing request in a vacuum. Survivors are acutely
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  Speaker 1: concerned that unsealing, coupled with the transfer and Ms. Maxwell's
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  Speaker 1: public platform, may be a prelude to clemency, they wrote.
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  Speaker 1: For some, the Maxwell conviction is the only meaningful measure
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  Speaker 1: of criminal accountability. Its erosion would be devastating. And I've
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  Speaker 1: heard that firsthand from some of these survivors. So that's
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  Speaker 1: not cap. That's not bullshit. That's what these people are living.
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  Speaker 1: That's their reality. But sure, I guess we should just
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  Speaker 1: move on, right? A lawyer for Annie Farmer, a victim
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  Speaker 1: of Epstein and Maxwell, who testified at Maxwell's trial, also
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  Speaker 1: expressed revulsion that Maxwell is now, to the victim's horror,
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  Speaker 1: herself attempting to escape justice. She said that the unsealing request,
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  Speaker 1: while it will help expose the magnitude and abhorrence of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell's crimes, doesn't go far enough, and suggested
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  Speaker 1: the government should disclose the more than 300 gigabytes of
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  Speaker 1: data and physical evidence in its possession. Yes, that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what should be going on. All of that information should
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  Speaker 1: be dumped. Now, of course, some of it should be
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  Speaker 1: redacted to protect survivor names. Besides that, I do not
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  Speaker 1: care about the fallout. If you don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: outed for being a piece of shit, don't be a
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  Speaker 1: piece of shit. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
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  Speaker 1: Farmers lawyer Sigrid McCauley also took issue with the government's
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  Speaker 1: pledge to withhold identifying information about third parties, writing that
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: any effort to redact third party names smacks of a cover-up.
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  Speaker 1: And she faulted the administration's statement that it had found
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  Speaker 1: no evidence to merit opening an investigation into any third
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  Speaker 1: party's The government's recent suggestion that no further criminal investigations
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  Speaker 1: are forthcoming is a cowardly abdication of its duties to
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  Speaker 1: protect and serve, she wrote. Yet another lawyer, who said
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he represents multiple Epstein and Maxwell victims, Jack Scarola, told
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  Speaker 1: the judges that the court should release all Epstein-related information
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  Speaker 1: and documents in the possession and control of law enforcement,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: prosecutorial and other government agents and entities. with victim information redacted.
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  Speaker 1: He also said that the court should order the disclosure
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  Speaker 1: of the complete transcripts of all interviews with Maxwell. Not
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  Speaker 1: even a question. We should all see that. That shouldn't
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: be a secret. That shouldn't be private. What do we
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: live in fucking North Korea? And an anonymous victim, whose
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: federal prosecutor said was represented by Edwards, pleaded with the
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  Speaker 1: court for more transparency. I think that the victim's lawyer
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: should have access to all these findings, this person wrote.
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  Speaker 1: We have a right to take legal action against these
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: institutions and or individuals involved in Epstein and co-conspirators' crimes.
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  Speaker 1: There was one letter unlike the others, however. Neil Binder,
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  Speaker 1: an attorney for clients whose names were redacted in the
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  Speaker 1: publicly filed version of this letter, urged the court not
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  Speaker 1: to unseal the transcript saying that the government had met
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: its burden to justify such a step. Binder requested that
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  Speaker 1: if the documents are made public, that his clients' names
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  Speaker 1: be redacted because they were innocent third parties at the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: time of any allegations contained in the grand jury material.
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  Speaker 1: Binder wrote that the injury his clients could face if
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  Speaker 1: their names are revealed is difficult to overstate. Yeah, you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: know whose injuries are difficult to overstate? The girls and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: women who were abused by your client's friend. So no,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they're embarrassed. publicizing any information in
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the grand jury materials related to his clients he wrote
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: will inflict irreparable harm on them through the very fact
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of their association with this case. Well, that just means
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it's finally catching up to them. Because if we had
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a media that did the correct job, all these people
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: would have been outed a long time ago. But I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to hear shit about these clients or these
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: people who were hanging out with Epstein who are now
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: upset that their names might get revealed. Because as far
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, the only opinions we should be listening
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to when it comes to these documents is what the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: survivors have to say. And if they don't want their
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: names out, then their names should be redacted. But besides that,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: everybody else should have their name published. And if you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: don't like it, well, stop hanging out with a pedophile.
• 45:42
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