Latest / Best of Business / Megan Alexander: Robert Half New Zealand managing director on the counteroffer conundrum impacting Kiwi businesses
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- 0:16Speaker 2: If your employee comes to you with a higher payoffer
- 0:19Speaker 2: from another business, should you make a counteroffer? According to
- 0:22Speaker 2: a new report, ninety five percent of New Zealand's employers
- 0:25Speaker 2: made this counter office sometime in the last year, but
- 0:28Speaker 2: the same employees. Employers are split over whether the tactic
- 0:31Speaker 2: actually works or not, because after the counteroffer only half
- 0:34Speaker 2: of the staff are still with them. Megan Alexander is
- 0:37Speaker 2: the managing director for Robert Half New Zealand and with
- 0:39Speaker 2: US Home Megan.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Ah Hi, Heather, what do you reckon?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Does it work?
- 0:45Speaker 3: It has a short term fix, right, So you have
- 0:50Speaker 3: to get under the real reason why the person was
- 0:53Speaker 3: looking to leave. So if there's money driven and they
- 0:56Speaker 3: like the culture of the company and they like their
- 0:58Speaker 3: role and they have career progression and all those things,
- 1:02Speaker 3: then it can work. But if it's that, if you
- 1:05Speaker 3: don't really understand the real reasons why the person was
- 1:07Speaker 3: looking to live even the first place, and you put
- 1:09Speaker 3: the band aid of extra money on it, then it's
- 1:12Speaker 3: a very short term fix.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Okay, well, how do you so do you actually ideally
- 1:16Speaker 2: want to avoid getting to the point where there is
- 1:19Speaker 2: a counteroffer being made.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Well, it's a known fact that it has some positive
- 1:26Speaker 3: and negative effects. So you know, obviously a person feels
- 1:30Speaker 3: valued when they get the counteroffer and they feel like yay,
- 1:34Speaker 3: their manager rates them, etc. But if you haven't addressed
- 1:38Speaker 3: the underlying reason why they looked, then you do put
- 1:40Speaker 3: yourself in the cons piece where you know you've got
- 1:44Speaker 3: pay equity issues, you've got trust issues, you've got after
- 1:48Speaker 3: a short period of time, you've got people then thinking
- 1:51Speaker 3: about moving anyway. So it just depends on what your
- 1:54Speaker 3: strategy is. I wouldn't say you shouldn't use it, but
- 1:57Speaker 3: I think you have to understand when you're using it
- 1:59Speaker 3: and why you're using it.
- 2:01Speaker 2: So do you think sometimes it is okay? This is
- 2:04Speaker 2: a weird one. I heard recently of an employer who
- 2:07Speaker 2: said to an employee, if you want to pay a rise,
- 2:10Speaker 2: go out there, get another job offer, and we will
- 2:12Speaker 2: see if we can match you. You ever heard of
- 2:13Speaker 2: that happening before?
- 2:16Speaker 3: Not so much, not blatantly, but it does happen. I
- 2:19Speaker 3: mean it's happening more and more, as we say the
- 2:21Speaker 3: school shortage market because in the in the New Zealand
- 2:25Speaker 3: highly schooled professionals and like Robert Hart specializes in finance
- 2:28Speaker 3: and accounting, and it those areas are really skill short
- 2:32Speaker 3: in New Zealand. And so you know, the look the
- 2:35Speaker 3: immediacy of losing someone that's good in your team means
- 2:40Speaker 3: you have gonna you're gonna have to find the replacement.
- 2:42Speaker 3: You may have a gap, and so that's a short
- 2:44Speaker 3: term pain. And so we are seeing increasingly that the
- 2:48Speaker 3: use of car offers to try and put the band
- 2:50Speaker 3: aid on the short term.
- 2:52Speaker 2: But when an employer asks an employee to go and
- 2:55Speaker 2: do that themselves, is that them just trying to establish
- 2:57Speaker 2: this person's market value?
- 3:00Speaker 3: I think I think there's two camps here. I think
- 3:03Speaker 3: there is a little bit of that to see what
- 3:05Speaker 3: will happen. There's also sometimes some employers feel like their
- 3:09Speaker 3: person won't get that money, and so for them it's
- 3:14Speaker 3: you go out and you'll find out that you're not
- 3:16Speaker 3: getting you're well looked after, and so you know, I
- 3:20Speaker 3: don't actually think that's a great strategy. I think it's
- 3:23Speaker 3: really about sitting down and understanding and having career conversations
- 3:27Speaker 3: around where they're headed. What are they wanting out of
- 3:29Speaker 3: their job, what can you offer, what can't you offer?
- 3:32Speaker 3: And having more adult conversations.
- 3:34Speaker 2: All right, hey, it's been really interesting to talk to you, Megan,
- 3:36Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Look after yourself, Megan, Alexander Robert Half,
- 3:39Speaker 2: New Zealand Managing Director.
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