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Guest Episode - Issy Bailey · F*ck Off Fridays

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SPEAKER_03: Welcome back to Fuck Off Fridays with your girl Liv and your girl Charlie.
0:09
SPEAKER_03: Today we have a very special guest.
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SPEAKER_03: We have the three-time Paralympian Izzy Bailey.
0:15
SPEAKER_03: Woohoo! Thank you for coming on our sofa.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much for inviting me.
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SPEAKER_03: No, we're very excited.
0:20
SPEAKER_03: We're very excited.
0:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
0:21
SPEAKER_00: This is exciting.
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SPEAKER_00: So first things first, we realise that not only do you have your own Wikipedia page, go on, but it's it's also out of date.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whoever um decided they were a fan in the in the beginning and started it up hasn't kept up with my career, obviously.
0:36
SPEAKER_00: They've they have dropped off.
0:37
SPEAKER_00: What it does mention though is that you went to Rankham College.
0:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, with me.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we love it.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Rankham for Rankham R I P.
0:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
0:46
SPEAKER_00: So that's how Izzy and I met.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: So we went to school together.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: See, I didn't even know.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, surprise.
0:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, and we used to sing in the choir together.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: We did.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: That's basic I think that's basically how we became friends.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: It was through choir, wasn't it?
0:59
SPEAKER_00: And then we then in the later years were playing like hockey and lacrosse together as well.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was such a it was such a small school that basically if you could hold a hockey stick, you're on the hockey team.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: Um so we we did all the sports together.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: Did you do tennis?
1:12
SPEAKER_01: No, but you were very good at that as well.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: I think Holly and I just were the only two that were willing to give up our Saturdays to play tennis.
1:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I didn't.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: I did always crap at tennis.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: I did it as a bit of a social.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: If you're a tennis, play skill, play backs.
1:23
SPEAKER_03: Because the teacher was fit.
1:24
SPEAKER_03: The teacher was fit.
1:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
1:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes, he was fit.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: We had some very fit groundsmen that used to drive around on quad bikes and we were like he also ran the choir as well.
1:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you too! So there's a reason why we spent a lot of time together.
1:39
SPEAKER_00: Many talents, yeah.
1:41
SPEAKER_01: Extra choir, 8 a.m.
1:42
SPEAKER_01: on a Tuesday.
1:43
SPEAKER_01: Don't mind if I do.
1:44
SPEAKER_01: I'll be there.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: I really hope he never sees this.
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unknown: I know.
1:47
SPEAKER_00: I imagine.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: You imagine.
1:49
SPEAKER_00: I wonder if he's still fit now.
1:50
SPEAKER_00: Um there he is.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's basically how we became friends was was through school and singing.
1:57
SPEAKER_00: And then there was a period of time where we went um and sang to old people.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember that?
2:01
SPEAKER_00: We went and sang Christmas carols.
2:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, I did that one.
2:04
SPEAKER_03: You just brought back a traumatic memory.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: I do remember that.
2:08
SPEAKER_01: And and and the RAF base, we did some my dad hooked up to me.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:14
SPEAKER_00: They had like an old people's lunch.
2:15
SPEAKER_00: Um, and Izzy and I went and sang Christmas carols with them.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: I remember your dad saying to us that um don't be nervous because they probably can't hear you anyway.
2:23
SPEAKER_03: It's like, hey, thanks.
2:25
SPEAKER_03: That is such a papa cleansing.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: I know, yeah.
2:28
SPEAKER_01: All these retired RAF flyers who've got hearing damage from their years of flying.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: But they're just they clapped along very politely anyway, didn't they?
2:36
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it was a good time for one of them.
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SPEAKER_00: It was cute.
2:38
SPEAKER_00: Um but also on your Wikipedia page, it says obviously you went to the University of Exeter.
2:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, what I enjoy is that you didn't even know you had a Wikipedia page until I told you.
2:47
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm I'm concerned to know which photo they've used.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a really nice photo, actually.
2:52
SPEAKER_00: I think it's your GB headshot.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's probably 10 years old.
2:56
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't show me on here, but when I when I Google it, it's this GB headshot.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's hideous.
3:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's oh, I think you look great.
3:03
SPEAKER_01: 10 years been from 2014 when you're scored.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: That was the um We're Going to Rio 2016 photos cool.
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SPEAKER_01: So exciting.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so can we go into this?
3:12
SPEAKER_00: I think it'd be really great to share with everyone.
3:14
SPEAKER_00: Because obviously at school we were on the shooting team as well.
3:17
unknown: Yeah.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: Check your privilege.
3:19
SPEAKER_00: Um you were always a natural you're always a natural shot, but maybe if you can like share with people like how you got into shooting, how you got into the Paralympic Games and how Wikipedia is incorrect, because you actually went to three, not two.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, if we could talk through that, that'd be grand.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I um like you say, we did a bit of clay pigeon shooting at school, and um my it sounds very privileged, doesn't it?
3:43
SPEAKER_01: But my grandpa would have a a gun in the garden, like an air pistol, that he'd set up with a with a target in the garden when we were kids.
3:50
SPEAKER_01: So I knew I could shoot.
3:51
SPEAKER_01: I did CCF at school as well, so I knew I could sort of hit a target and I was always all right.
3:55
SPEAKER_01: But I was never gonna take it seriously, I was never gonna compete.
3:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I got injured in 2013, I was in a car accident, and I was at Stoke Mandeville rehab centre.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and at the time the GB shooting team were training at the sports facilities there, and um somebody suggested I go down and have a go at shooting just as a pastime during rehab.
4:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I did.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: The coach liked the sort of I guess ability that I had at the time, um, gave me a training plan and I went from there.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, and he he had actually the coach, the opportunity that he gave me was was massive, but he he actually didn't let me say no.
4:34
SPEAKER_01: He just he just gave me a no act of free will here.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: No, absolutely not, no.
4:38
SPEAKER_01: She's got a good eye, we'll have her.
4:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: There was no there was no question whether or not I was gonna be on his team.
4:43
SPEAKER_01: I was still an impatient in the hospital.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: A lot of my day was physical rehab, um, occupational therapy.
4:50
SPEAKER_01: But my coach, Vlad, who was Estonian, um, he would he wouldn't really clock any of this.
4:56
SPEAKER_01: He'd just say, You're doing not shooting range, we go.
5:00
SPEAKER_01: And and that was it.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Forgot about the fact you're there to rehab.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, no, none of that.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: Come with me.
5:05
SPEAKER_01: None of that.
5:06
SPEAKER_01: He was like, You're gonna be here for three hours, and I was like, No, I've got to go to physio.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: He's like, no.
5:10
SPEAKER_01: And I was thinking, okay, but anyway, um, he he gave me the opportunity.
5:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I made the G V team um sort of under his guidance, and that was it.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: Just amazing.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: How many spots are there on the on the shooting team?
5:24
SPEAKER_01: Um there there aren't a sort of limited number of spots.
5:28
SPEAKER_01: It's very much um the funding that they've got for that Paralympic cycle or Olympic cycle.
5:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, they then know how many athletes they can fund.
5:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
5:36
SPEAKER_01: And um they sort of allocate based on potential and and and previous success.
5:40
SPEAKER_03: Wow, okay.
5:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: So they were looking at the time for pistol shooters, split pistol and rifle.
5:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm a pistol shooter.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: They were looking at the time for pistol shooters, young, female, because it's quite a male-dominated sport.
5:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but diversity.
5:54
SPEAKER_01: Diversity and and and young athletes.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: So that's I just ticked all their boxes for them.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
5:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, which I think was uh helped me really get in.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, and then the coaching was great.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: The team setup at that time was really, really strong.
6:08
SPEAKER_01: Loads of loads of para athletes around me with lots of different levels of experience, but life experience as well, different disabilities coming together and sort of sharing on that on that journey, really, with the same goals.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: So I I just sort of swept along in that wave.
6:23
SPEAKER_03: And yeah.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: Did you at any point go, I actually really don't want to do this?
6:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh 2023.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:31
unknown: Yeah.
6:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:32
SPEAKER_03: What when you retired?
6:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I I I really enjoyed quite a lot of my I did 10 years, pretty much 10 years to exactly with shooting.
6:42
SPEAKER_01: Um I really enjoyed it up until about 2020 when COVID hit.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: So I qualified in 2019 for for the Tokyo Games and I was shooting really well.
6:52
SPEAKER_01: And I just could have done with Tokyo being in 2020, but COVID put it back a year.
6:59
SPEAKER_01: Um it was training was really hard, it was pretty miserable, and I got injured.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: So I went to Tokyo feeling nowhere near my best.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: I was miserable that I'd missed that sort of peak.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: Um, I was injured.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: I was just now I know that I was starting just depressed.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, Tokyo was a shit show for me.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: I had one event that I didn't finish, and one event that I shot uh a personal best.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: So wow, it was just too inconsistent.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it was pretty traumatic.
7:28
SPEAKER_01: We came home, everyone was just really demoralized because the shooting hadn't won any medals in Tokyo.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we all kind of just plugged on for the next games because it was only three years away.
7:42
SPEAKER_01: Of course, yeah.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: You extend it by a year, you then have to shorten the gap to the next.
7:45
SPEAKER_01: So the cycle to Paris was only three years, which felt super short.
7:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it also gave us an opportunity to like go for another games really quickly.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: So I did that.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: I I knuckled down and thought I'll do Paris and then I'm done.
7:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, it was a slog to get to get through it, but I I shot well.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: I did what I needed to do 2023, qualified for the Paris.
8:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, I got a new and phenomenal coach at the start of 2024 who absolutely made my 2024 season the best it could ever have been.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: And I finished on a high.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: I really enjoyed my last season.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
8:19
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I was I was ready to I was ready to to quit.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: I was ready.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: I was done.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:24
SPEAKER_00: And do you think is it being in that like high pressure environment?
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Is that do you just because I think it does come a point where you kind of tire of it?
8:31
SPEAKER_00: Had you just you just had enough.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, a lot of people hit that hit that sort of place at different times.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:37
SPEAKER_01: There are still guys in it now who have been shooting since before I was there.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: So um people will stay in shooting for more than 20 years.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you just you reach your your limit when you've reached a limit.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: But no, I had reached mine and um I'd achieved what I wanted to achieve from it.
8:53
SPEAKER_01: I was never gonna be uh Paralympic champion, I'd been to the the games that I wanted to go to, I'd got what I wanted from it, and I now I w had other goals outside of sport.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so yeah, nicely wrapped up in a bow, 10 years, three games, done.
9:09
SPEAKER_03: Three games achievement achievement massive.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm pleased with what I did, but there are lots of people still going who've achieved a lot more, and they're going for more games.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: So I still follow them, still see them, and uh I just don't shoot anymore.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: I said, Do you do any any form of shooting now, or have you like completely the only form of shooting I do is actually when I go out to Texas and hang out with my friends in Texas.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeehaw! I love that.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: And we shoot lots of big guns out there, and um they're mad for guns, aren't they?
9:38
SPEAKER_01: They are mad for guns.
9:39
SPEAKER_01: I've never seen so many guns in my whole life.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: It's wonderful to going from you know the UK where to have a single gun, you need all this sort of paperwork, safes, locks in your car, uh everything.
9:53
SPEAKER_01: It's just security is through the roof, and for good reasons or whatever.
9:56
SPEAKER_01: But then we go to the States, and I've been out there with people who've got safes, you know, walk-in safes just crammed full of more guns than they even know they have.
10:06
SPEAKER_03: And you can just go and buy one on the count over the counter, can't you?
10:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:09
SPEAKER_03: In Walmart, which I find wild.
10:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: Here like, I'm really interested because we had a conversation about guns the other day, right?
10:14
SPEAKER_00: And um about like I think we were driving back from Soho Farmhouse the other day.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: And we were talking about um like mental health and uh how much stricter it is here, like you touched on and with the licensing and stuff.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I said, I'm really interested to hear your thoughts, Nick, because obviously the States is really different, and obviously there's a whole load of, without getting too political, there's a whole load of like you know, gun violence and things like that there.
10:37
SPEAKER_00: Here, obviously, you have to you know apply for a gun license, you have to have a reason to have one and things like that.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: And something I said, and I don't know if it's a thing, but I said I was like, surely you must need to have like a regular mental health check to be like this person is okay, you know, they are able to operate a gun.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, because even when I think back to I don't know how many years ago this was, but there was a shooting up in the lake district, and somebody I know lives up there, and apparently they literally turned up to the end of their drive and they said, and it they were after the guy who lived next door, who I think was like their lawyer or something.
11:12
SPEAKER_00: They turned up to the end of their gate and they said, Oh, does so and so live here?
11:14
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Oh no, that's like next door, not knowing that this guy had a shotgun in the car and was obviously about to go and kill him.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I don't think they did shoot the neighbour, but the guy eventually shot himself and it was then found out he had mental health issues.
11:27
SPEAKER_00: So I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on the whole flip it, the US lack of gun controls compared to here.
11:37
SPEAKER_00: So you said people have got all of these guns, and I remember going to we went to our friend Christina's wedding.
11:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out Christina, what a girl.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: And as soon as everyone heard that you shot, they were to you like flies to shit.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: And they were like, Yeah, you shoot guns, what type of guns do you shoot?
11:52
SPEAKER_00: And they were absolutely mad for it.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: And they loved it.
11:55
SPEAKER_00: It was like she was a celebrity.
11:57
SPEAKER_00: So I guess having seen the other side of it, and obviously being in that industry, like what do you think about it?
12:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting what you say there about um the mental health checks and things, because you do have to, when you apply for your firearms license or you apply for um, you know, licenses above what we had, so we had section five and things like that.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, you have to get a okay note from your from your GP, which means that you do have to see somebody after sign you off.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: But in the world of elite sport, of course, mental health is now quite a big talking point.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: The pressure that you that you live with, the ups and downs, you might take massive losses, you might lose your funding, all of these things really impact an athlete's mental health.
12:37
SPEAKER_01: And in shooting, there's a little bit of a stigma with with mental health still, I think, that you might be hesitant to raise your mental health concerns because you're worried about losing your licenses.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, of course.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: And how it might impact on your sport.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: Because if you lose your licenses, then you've lost your your livelihood, um, your access to ranges.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: So there have been athletes in the past that definitely have tried to um keep sort of mental health worries or or concerns under wraps simply because they're worried about their sort of access to being taken away.
13:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: But it all is very sort of natural um life and elite sport, the pressures of that and the the anxiousness, the nervousness.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Um the USA, that's a different kettle of fish.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:22
SPEAKER_01: It's a very, very different kettle of fish.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: Um and I think that we won't gain anything by by going into that here.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, even even the different states have different policies, they have different ways of looking at looking at it, and individuals sometimes, you know, we hear mostly on the news here about um individuals that strongly advocate for their right to to bear arms, um, their right to own as many guns as they want, but actually there are individuals that forego those those rights because they don't believe that guns should be in every household, that should be in every car.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I've been in cars in the States where they've got three, four guns in the car because of where you might be sitting at a time when somebody I mean it's it's it's wild.
14:06
SPEAKER_01: And I've been never needed to even think about using a gun in the States.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: And and um but I I do know people that believe that it's absolutely necessary.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:17
SPEAKER_01: Um so I think it's very much uh uh just ingrained in the culture.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: What the safety they think they need, you know, if you know that your neighbour's got a gun, are you gonna have a gun?
14:27
SPEAKER_00: Probably Well, I guess you probably want it as a defensive thing, but that's the thing I always think is that here I don't I didn't worry about it until we were driving down the road.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: The whole reason we had a conversation about guns is we were driving down the road and there was a guy videoing on the side of the road and he held up a camera, but he was looking through it like it was a gun, and honestly, he was on the verge, and basically at the last minutes we drove past, he would brought it up like that.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: And like put it to a sign.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I was like, I'm getting shot.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: Um but I think and that's how the whole conversation started.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: But I think if if I knew that other people carried them, it's a bit like knife crime here.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: That's I think the only thing we can really compare it to is knife crime here.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: People feel as though they need a knife to like need to carry a knife with them to defend themselves should someone else attack them, so it then becomes more of a defensive trait.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's the thing that like here, if everyone else had a gun and I was worried I was gonna get shot.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, I want to shoot you before you shoot me, you know?
15:19
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
15:20
SPEAKER_03: There's my dueling pistols at dawn, yeah.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:24
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, less gun chat.
15:27
SPEAKER_00: Can you talk to us about the games?
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Because I've never other than going and spectating it like the hockey in like 2012.
15:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I went to that.
15:34
SPEAKER_00: Ah, love that.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: Well, I've never sorry, I can't relate.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: But like a peep behind the curtain.
15:41
SPEAKER_00: What is it like?
15:42
SPEAKER_00: What's the setup like?
15:43
SPEAKER_00: Like yeah, tell us all and tell us more about condoms at the games.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: More about condoms at the games.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: Sure, yeah.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: So the um, I mean, if you want to dive in at that point, the the stories about um condom vending machines at the games, it's all true.
16:00
SPEAKER_01: Um love.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Stay safe, athletes.
16:04
SPEAKER_00: Go on.
16:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, of course, the the three games I went to are very, very different.
16:08
SPEAKER_01: Rio was uh just a tropical carnival of a games.
16:12
SPEAKER_01: It was wonderful.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: It was bright, colourful, energetic.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Um and the these they had these condom crank machines where you go up and you just turn the crank in the in the dining hall.
16:25
SPEAKER_00: For everyone to see.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you had your material condom.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: It was so loud.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: So any anyway.
16:32
SPEAKER_01: It was this enormous, these enormous sort of tents.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, so everything sort of echoed.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: And every time anyone was walking in and out of the doors, you you'd crank the the machine to sort of drop a few condoms out.
16:44
SPEAKER_01: And and and every time someone would crank, crank, crank, crank the tables nearby, I'd be like, whoa, get on.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: I love that.
16:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, no, Tokyo obviously with with COVID was um very, very different games.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: It was the the sort of safety regulations were so strict.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Um did you go it's 2021 that you went, it was meant to be the 2020 games you went because 2021, I remember here anyway, it was rife again.
17:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: We went back into another lockdown.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: So when you were there, were you having to all be like did you have to like ice is isolation?
17:18
SPEAKER_00: Very much.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: Do you have to do all that before like quarantine?
17:20
SPEAKER_00: That's the word I was in for quarantine.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Did you have to quarantine before you actually went?
17:24
SPEAKER_00: And then were you like in your own bubble with all of the other athletes?
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so um before we went out to Tokyo, we had to do COVID testing every day.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, that was a scare actually, because I had a test that it was like negative, negative, negative, and it came up positive.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: Like three days before the games, and I had to go like I think it was I had to go into London specifically to get another test to prove that that was a false positive, or I'd have been I'd have been left at home.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: So everything you've worked hard for could have been out of the window just because of Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: We had a we had a shotgun shooter who won silver in Paris who didn't go to Tokyo because she tested positive for COVID.
18:00
SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
18:01
SPEAKER_01: I know it was it's heartbreaking.
18:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um so we did lots of testing, and then every morning in Tokyo at 8 a.m., swab up the nose, and if you were positive, you isolated.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, it was even even in the buildings, walking around the village, in the lunch hall, um, masks on everywhere.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: You only took your mask off to literally compete.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: And and in the dining room, which is this this enormous space with lots of tables and and a huge sort of buffet service food, all of the seats had these plastic screens around them.
18:32
SPEAKER_01: So you couldn't even speak to the person across from you.
18:35
SPEAKER_01: That's so sad.
18:35
SPEAKER_01: You're just in your end of a bubble.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: It was it was really, really isolating and restrictive, but no one got COVID.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: So I guess the measures worked, but it wasn't um it wasn't a fun and enjoyable games.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: No, you weren't hanging out with people from other countries like you normally do.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
18:51
SPEAKER_01: And then no shagging's happening there.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: Not a lot of shagging, although I was with my boyfriend at at Tokyo.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: We were okay.
19:00
SPEAKER_01: Um, but though then Paris came around, and um, again, completely different games for us as shooters.
19:06
SPEAKER_01: We were in a satellite venue, so we weren't in the main village until I think all the events had that as well.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we're horsey gals, but I think all the events had that too.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: So they were like way out of the way in your little pod, and they're like, it's kind of not as fun because part of the fun, I guess, is being with yeah, being with all the sports.
19:22
SPEAKER_01: Being with other sports, yeah, and being able to go and see other things when you're finished, yeah, is a really fun part of the games.
19:29
SPEAKER_01: But no, we were about three hours away in the French National Shooting Centre in Chateauroux, which is a state-of-the-art facility.
19:35
SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: But um, and they had a sort of mini village set up for us, which was which was fab.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: But we were with all the shooters, you know, these people that we see four or five times a year, anyway.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: Hello.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: It was like a World Cup for us.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, a a high standard world cup, yeah, of course.
19:49
SPEAKER_03: But um three hours is a long way though.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: That's a long three hours away.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: And then at the end, when shooting finished, we uh we we bust up to the village, which was a shit show in terms of access.
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, was it?
20:03
SPEAKER_00: I guess they didn't put any thought into it if well hang on, no, because surely in case the shooting's out of the way, but I guess at the main Olympic village you have all the other para sports and all the other para athletes, so they just not.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, so it was the they if you if you think you've got like a shooting, a shooting workout, say you've got 150 disabled athletes, let's say 75 of them are in wheelchairs, and you try and get 75 wheelchair users on a coach, on multiple coaches, and then you've got multiple stops, and you've got to get certain people off, and certain people need to stay on, but manoeuvring all the wheelchairs, it was a nightmare.
20:36
SPEAKER_01: So they instead of driving the coaches from Chateauroux to Paris, which would be a about between three and four hours, they drove everyone first to the airport, regardless of or not whether you were getting off, and then drove from the airport to the village.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: So it took seven hours, there's no accessible toilet, they had no food, they had no water for seven hours.
20:57
SPEAKER_01: Jeez, because they didn't they didn't coordinate the access properly or the travel properly.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, so it was it was hellish.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whose job was that?
21:04
SPEAKER_00: Give them give them the same.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know whose job it was, but that was like I say, that was miserable.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: But once we got to the village, yeah, what was it like when you were there?
21:13
SPEAKER_01: Brilliant.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: It was stunning.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: And did you get to go and watch all of the other athletes complete in their different disciplines as well?
21:20
SPEAKER_01: I watched tennis, I watched Alfie Hewitt in the final of the men's tennis at Roland Garros.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Wow! It was insane.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: That's really good.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: The atmosphere was incredible, but most of the other sports had either finished or they were they were coming to the end.
21:34
SPEAKER_01: So it was the finals.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: So tickets were quite quite hard to come by.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: But I did go to the tennis.
21:39
SPEAKER_00: Do you not as an athlete, do you not get athlete accidents?
21:43
SPEAKER_01: You can.
21:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can get it.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but if it's allocated, then it then it's full.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: If it's full, it's full.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say it's like surely I'm sorry, but you're uh first up.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: You're a Paralympian, as if you don't then just automatically get to see.
21:54
SPEAKER_01: We did get to see some stuff.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: Um I had some friends that went to powerlifting, some of them went to um The athletic stadium.
22:02
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we did get to see some things and be in the village with everyone else and lots of other countries and bigger social spaces than we'd had in Chateau Rue.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: Um actually I don't remember there being a Condom machine.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure there was.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it was maybe it was out of stock by the time we got there.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: Everyone was already rated.
22:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the Olympians have already finished them off.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: But um yeah, Paris was great, really, really great experience.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: And um I was really happy to like fly home from Paris and know that that was that was it.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm done.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: That was your was that your last competition ever?
22:39
SPEAKER_00: So you like officially retired.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've never shot my guns again.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: Never shot my guns again.
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Really, really pleased.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but how nice that you've come out of it.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: You've finished on a high and you feel good about that.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: I feel yeah, I feel really good about it.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that had a lot to do with the coach that I was that I was given in in January 2024.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, Sonnell came onto the GB uh coaching team, and she just absolutely revolutionized the way that we thought about coaching, professional coaching.
23:10
SPEAKER_01: Um we'd had a lot of um enthusiastic ex-athletes that had been coaching and monitoring the the squad and giving advice, but until she came along, we didn't understand the difference between professional sports coaching and experienced former athletes.
23:30
SPEAKER_01: Um she just made me think completely differently about how to utilize my my time on the range, what I was doing there, how to think about competing, how to manage my thought processes under pressure and all of these different things that I wish I had learned earlier in my career.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: But she made sure that the last year, you know, I set a new British record.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: I was really pleased with how with how we ended the season.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I have absolutely no regrets.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: It's nice to go out like that rather than be in a bad spot, really low or depressed about it, and then be like, I just can't bloody do this anymore.
24:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
24:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I've I've seen that.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: It's heartbreaking.
24:08
SPEAKER_01: I've seen athletes on my team retire when it hasn't been their choice.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: And they've either they've either, you know, they've not made the the cut or the pressure's got to them.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: So they yeah, so they they sort of you quit to save your mental health.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: Um and uh and the risk of losing your funding, you know, you think, well, I can't pay my mortgage if I'm not on funding, I need to go and get another job.
24:31
SPEAKER_01: And so they have to quit before they before they've you know really they feel finished with in in themselves.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it can be completely just shattering to them.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, especially if you've like built that identity as an athlete.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: How do you come out of that?
24:45
SPEAKER_01: And the other on the other side, when you're no longer an athlete, um, yeah, people really suffer.
24:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, but luckily I had I had a plan, I'm I've moved on with that plan, and I just I don't really identify as an athlete anymore at all.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm just happy with that as that part of my life's done, and now I am moved on.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't let so you won't let it define you.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: No, like I'm very happy to talk about it, and I still um give advice to like new athletes coming on, do a bit of mentoring or whatever, but I have like no interest in being uh a coach or anything to do.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't actually think in my heart that I am an athlete.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: I just happen to be good at it and I enjoyed the lifestyle, met really great people, um, but I don't feel the need to do it anymore.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: What interesting?
25:33
SPEAKER_00: What's next for Izzy Bailey?
25:34
SPEAKER_00: So post-shooting, other than travelling the world, you know, she holidays more than I do.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: She she really is.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't go that far.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: She really is Mrs.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: Worldwide.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Um but like now, what's your what what does the what does your future career look like for you?
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Like what are you up to?
25:50
SPEAKER_00: And what do you find joy in now that you're in that next phase?
25:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I'm doing my PhD in in English.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, I've been waiting to do this for a long time.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: I finished my masters in uh 2021, and ever since then I've just been thinking, right, when can I start my PhD?
26:09
SPEAKER_01: And I wanted to start as soon as I finished shooting, so I applied sort of in the last year of my uh competitive career, and I started in January last year.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: So I've been doing it for a year and a half.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: I just love it.
26:21
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: It gets me up in the morning.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: I just where are you doing that?
26:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh through Loughborough University.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: Oh, amazing.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:28
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
26:29
SPEAKER_01: My supervisors are awesome.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: Um and I just can't think of anything better to do with my time.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: We love that.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: Love it.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: What are you doing PhD on?
26:38
SPEAKER_00: Because I don't really know too much.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: I know obviously a lot of people, so you do like your bachelor's and whatever you're doing it in.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: Then obviously, then you can move on to your master's.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, what can you talk us through what PhD looks like and what like what does it mean when you've then got it?
26:50
SPEAKER_00: Because I think PhD and I think pretty huge dick.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Pretty huge deal.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or deal.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: I said dick, but oh pretty.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: But she is gonna be a pretty huge deal.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: I will have a PhD, but it won't be that kind of PhD.
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, no, it's um a lot of people say to me, like, what do you want to do with your PhD?
27:10
SPEAKER_01: What are you gonna do after it?
27:11
SPEAKER_01: The answer is I don't know.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: I can I'll probably just do a postdoc, just stay in research and academia.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: I just I I love it.
27:18
SPEAKER_01: I can't tell you how much um I enjoy research.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but my specific PhD, I look at the relationship between substance use and poetic creativity and inspiration.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
27:31
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
27:32
SPEAKER_01: So I compare that to performance enhancement in athletics.
27:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:37
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, that's really interesting.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: I think it is.
27:40
SPEAKER_03: I think it is.
27:40
SPEAKER_01: And my supervisor, bless him, he he thought it was interesting as well.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: When I initially applied, the idea was really underdeveloped.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: I just had this acorn of an idea applied to the university.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: And now that I look back on it, I don't know how my proposal ever made it through the gate.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: It was terrible, it was so bad.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: But um, my my supervisor Andrew um saw something of some potential there um and said, I'll work on this with you, but first we need to improve your proposal so it's it's worthy of coming to university.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, we did that and got accepted and um been working on it.
28:16
SPEAKER_01: And he's just he's so encouraging.
28:18
SPEAKER_01: But two supervisors, um one's in English and one's in sports sciences, and the the English professor is just so enthusiastic about the project, which makes me even more enthusiastic every time I have fuels your fire a little bit more.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: We share lots of ideas and thoughts and and um yeah, just I can't imagine doing anything else.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Love that.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: So, how long will it take you?
28:43
SPEAKER_01: I'm part-time, so it'll take five and a half years.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
28:46
SPEAKER_01: And you're a year in?
28:48
SPEAKER_01: I've yeah, year and a half.
28:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, nice.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: Sure, the brains and the brawn.
28:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: You're the whole package.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Leave that.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: The brains and the brawn of the boobies.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: The whole package.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Not the legs.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: Um if we're on video, like you can see them, but like disclaimer, they don't work.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: You ought to be able to see your chair, which is out there, yeah.
29:23
SPEAKER_03: That's a snippet if I ever do anyone.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: It's fucking great.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Oh, what a woman.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: How do you deal with trauma?
29:32
SPEAKER_00: Humour.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: Do you mind if I ask a question about dating?
29:38
SPEAKER_03: Go for it.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: So, yes, I will go out with you.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: Will you?
29:41
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:42
SPEAKER_03: I would love to take you out.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: Um brilliant.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: Charlie, you can leave us now.
29:47
SPEAKER_03: Are you with anyone now?
29:49
SPEAKER_03: Are you how do you find dating?
29:52
SPEAKER_01: Um I find it.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I had I had an awesome boyfriend that um is actually still on the shooting team, Matthew.
30:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, and we are we're not together anymore, but we're still very close.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: We live in the same village, and yeah, he helps out if I need to die.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is a top man, if ever there was one.
30:12
SPEAKER_01: Um but in the ML.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: Is he dating anyone?
30:13
SPEAKER_00: Can we find him a match?
30:15
SPEAKER_01: He's not dating that I know of.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
30:16
SPEAKER_00: So you know hey, look.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: Shout out.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: If you're a single lady who wants to date an athlete, he's available in the Cotswold area.
30:24
SPEAKER_01: He's great, and I will only allow him to date top quality women.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: So you're um yeah.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: Charles and Charles.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, no, he's great.
30:34
SPEAKER_01: So I was dating him for a long time, and then we split up in 2022, and then I just was shooting and not interested.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: I have since been on a couple of dates with some really, really nice guys.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been lucky, they've been really, really nice, but they're j I just haven't felt like butterflies, you know?
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: I've looked at them, I thought, green flag, green flag.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Loving this, but I want to don't want to jump into bed with you.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: So I just So I would caveat that.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
31:04
SPEAKER_03: Only because butterflies to me are a sign of anxiety in your body saying it's not quite right.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
31:11
SPEAKER_01: Really?
31:11
SPEAKER_01: I think you need to be able to be able to be able to do it.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: But what if you're not excited?
31:13
SPEAKER_01: If you're not excited about a person when you meet them, if it's very much, I want to meet you for a coffee, but when I go home I want to be on my own, that's not a good sign, is it?
31:21
SPEAKER_03: No, no.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: But I think if you're feeling a little bit too, let's say a little bit too anxious, a little bit too jittery.
31:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, if it's exciting.
31:29
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, no, you don't want to be.
31:30
SPEAKER_03: Excited is different to butterflies.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, see, I would describe butterflies exciting.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I would I would say a bit of chemistry, not chaos.
31:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't want to be confused.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: But a bit I wanna I wanna like fancy somebody.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: Um I just you know, I thought there were I've been on a couple of dates with with a few people, um, but nothing just didn't chemistry.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: So I just said, you know, I'm really sorry I think you're great, but I don't this isn't a romantic connection for me.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: And that was that.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm not looking either.
31:57
SPEAKER_01: No, no, and I think dating apps just are creepy.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: Really creepy.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: I don't like how people just like you decide whether or not you think someone could be for you just by like it's almost like the instant gratification, which is kind of like um, we've spoken a bit about um you get a lot of like yeah, and I think with things like I stayed off TikTok for a long time because I was like, I don't want to go on it.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: People like he wanted to feel so weird about it, and I was like, just gotta do it.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: She's like, Send me a screen recording.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, send me a screen recording, it'll eventually go through to Instagram.
32:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm now on TikTok because everyone's like, if you want to grow your social media following and you want to monetize it and travel more, that's exactly what I want to do.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Any travel brands out there?
32:36
SPEAKER_00: I want to travel and work.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Subscribe.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Um people are like, you need to go on there.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: But I think there's almost like everyone now, everything's at your fingertips.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: And if you want an answer to something, you Google it.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: And I think with the dating apps, it's like you think you know everything about a person just by a few photos that they put up, a bit of a bio that they put up, and you decide there and then whether or not you like that person rather than actually meeting them and exploring them and getting to know them.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: And I think sometimes when at the same time, when people date and they're like, Oh, I think they're really great, and I'm like, slow down.
33:07
SPEAKER_03: Could also be a bunch of bullshit.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get to know them and like really build up that trust with someone.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: So, like, I know it sounds really cheesy, but like I think you'll know when you meet the right person, whether or not they're for you or not.
33:20
SPEAKER_03: But also, I think just because like Soph had her hinge on when we were on holiday together over Christmas, and it's so easy to go, no, no, no.
33:31
SPEAKER_03: Whereas I think a lot of the people that you've said no to, if you met them on a night out and had a chat, you'd probably be like, Yeah, all right.
33:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: So or like we were talking earlier on about um even around things like dating apps asking you questions like, Do you want kids?
33:47
SPEAKER_00: Yes or no?
33:48
SPEAKER_00: And you will decide whether or not you want to be with someone immediately like that on that basis, based on one answer to the conversation.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: I think it's tricky, you know, when because when you're I think when you're on an app, um there's there's like one agenda, and the agenda is am I gonna date you?
34:04
SPEAKER_01: If you meet somebody out in the wild, whatever, wherever you meet people these days, yeah, you you might you might meet them and think, actually, this person's really fun.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: Let's be friends, let's do this together, let's yeah, and and but if you if you meet someone on a dating app, you know, you're already putting them in a box of I'm looking at you only to date you.
34:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, am I gonna date you?
34:24
SPEAKER_01: It's dating or nothing.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, because you don't sort of meet people on what are they called hinge and people bumble Tinder or whatever it is, yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's not to make friends, really, is it?
34:34
SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, looking for the one.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: Um Although we did hear that LinkedIn is the new Tinder.
34:41
SPEAKER_03: Is it?
34:41
SPEAKER_03: Apparently.
34:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: From who?
34:44
SPEAKER_03: Loads of people are talking about.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: Seriously, LinkedIn.
34:47
SPEAKER_03: It's not for businesses.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't know I don't use it.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't have TikTok, I don't have LinkedIn, I don't have to do it.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Hang on, no, yes, you do, because if you're gonna do more, this is a nice segue, actually.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna do more like public speaking and um motivational speaking and that sort of thing.
35:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, good point.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: LinkedIn is a great profile, great platform for you to be on.
35:04
SPEAKER_00: It would be, actually, yeah, you're probably right.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: I can help you with that.
35:07
unknown: Thanks.
35:08
SPEAKER_01: I've got a very old uh LinkedIn profile, so it does exist.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: But I just I don't even think I have the app on my phone anymore.
35:15
SPEAKER_01: So you'll have to another thing for us to do over lunch.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: We'll look at that over lunch.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: I tell you who popped up on my LinkedIn the other day was um, and someone will you shout out if you know the answer.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: Matt, someone who was on the England World Cup team.
35:28
SPEAKER_00: He was also on a question of sport as a panelist.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: What's his surname?
35:33
SPEAKER_00: People are gonna be shouting at their radio.
35:34
SPEAKER_00: Dawson.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Matt Dawson.
35:36
SPEAKER_00: There we go.
35:37
SPEAKER_00: He popped up as a suggested person to follow on my LinkedIn the other day, and I was like, What the fuck is a rugby player doing?
35:42
SPEAKER_00: And this is great.
35:43
SPEAKER_00: Professional athlete, what's he doing on LinkedIn?
35:45
SPEAKER_00: He's now investing in businesses, he does like motivational speaking or like guest guest speaking, he does panels, that sort of thing.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think LinkedIn is a very appropriate place for you to be, and who knows, maybe you'll also find a boyfriend on there too.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: Not that she's actively looking.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: No, exactly, but if they find her, not I've just my I've I've built up my life in such a way that I'm so pleased with it.
36:10
SPEAKER_01: If anyone were to come along and need to change a component that I'd think, oh, I'm not adapted to compromising.
36:17
SPEAKER_01: They'd have to be epic for me to do that.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, they'd have to to come in and be worth me compromising my beautiful life for them.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I agree.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'm not saying you know, I wouldn't do it for anyone, but it's gotta be spectacular.
36:32
SPEAKER_01: Basically Kevin Costner for me to do that.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Kevin fucking Costner.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:36
SPEAKER_00: Have you listened to that episode yet?
36:38
SPEAKER_00: Of course.
36:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, good, good.
36:40
SPEAKER_03: I my very delightful friend who is sat in the studio with us today over there on her phone.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: She is a marine biologist, she's very intelligent.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: She is waiting to marry Kevin Costner.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Get in the cute.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: She's very excited.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: We've just made him.
36:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, she's hardcore.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: And I watched um Kevin Costner in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
37:03
SPEAKER_01: Yes, my mum for Christmas, when I was eight or nine years old, bought me a poster for my bedroom wall of him shooting his flaming arrow.
37:12
SPEAKER_01: There's your inspiration for shooting.
37:14
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Alice is getting very excited in the morning.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: I wasn't inspired by the shooting, I was inspired by the man.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, terrible piece of casting in that film.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's agree.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: That film is hang on, isn't Severus Snape in that as well?
37:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: May he rest in peace.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Great casting.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: Take that back.
37:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: He is the Sheriff of Nottingham.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's great.
37:35
SPEAKER_01: But why is Kevin Costner Robin Hood?
37:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: However, love is love.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: The heart wants what it wants, and I wanted Kevin Costner in those weird leggings.
37:47
SPEAKER_03: So one of my absolute favourite films is Man in the Iron Mask with the three musketeers.
37:55
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god, have you not seen it?
37:56
SPEAKER_03: You've not seen it.
37:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, very young Leo.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: Leo would have been 18?
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Maybe.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: Fit Leo is what I'm thinking about.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: And team Darth.
38:03
SPEAKER_03: The guy who plays D'Artagnan.
38:07
SPEAKER_03: This is very teenage crush years.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: Hang on, right.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: No, I've got a story about little D'Artagnan.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: So no, and I feel like only my brother will be able to relate to this.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, go on, Yoyen.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: We used to watch a cartoon version called The Three Musketeers.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Three Musket Hounds.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say it's all dogs.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, has anyone else seen that?
38:27
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: It was called Dog Tanyon.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: Dog Tanyon, yeah!
38:31
SPEAKER_00: Fuck's sake.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: You have invalidated how you feel.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, really great.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: I see you.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: I see you.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my mum bought me the DVD box set.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: It's like four DVDs of Dog Tanyon.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: Love that.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: It's it's very funny.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: But less fit guys in it.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: A lot less.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: The guy who plays D'Artagnan.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Fucking all.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: Um you touched on green flags a minute ago.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: We'd love to know what are your what are your green flags, and then we'll lead on to what are your red flags.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: So a big green flag for me is um being genuinely interested in what they do with their life.
39:05
SPEAKER_01: So what they do for work, whatever it is, having a genuine interest.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't like the word passion for it.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: And it's a bit gummy, but having having genuine ambition for what they do and and purpose.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: Like they don't have to be so goal-driven that it blinds them to everything else, but having some ambition in what they want to do and how they want to improve themselves and their career, big green flag.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: Being self-motivated and having having a passion for something.
39:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, another green flag is asking questions.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: Like if I if I say something like, Oh my goodness, my favorite film is Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, them saying, Oh, why is that?
39:43
SPEAKER_01: Tell me.
39:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I don't just come back at me with, oh, well, mine is this, or I think yours is rubbish.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: Next.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: No, I think like a really big green flag is showing interest in someone, asking questions, yeah, and then not caveating it or judging it or trying to one up it.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: I think just genuinely, yeah, just genuinely having an interest and being happy to sit back and and listen to that person speak.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: And then when I ask them a question in return, being able to tell me honestly and openly, like, what are you interested in?
40:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, and having that that confidence to be honest and say, I'm interested in insurance broking.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: Whatever it is, it's probably not insurance breaking, but yeah, um, whatever it is that you're interested in, just own it and and tell me who you are, honestly.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, having a having a little interest in something and being interested and interesting, green flags.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: What's a red flag for you?
40:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: Oh, just people who use condoms are uh what's a red flag for me?
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just need to pause game again.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: Pause game.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Anyone who's not been to an Olympic game.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna say anyone who's only been to two games.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: Elite athletes only.
40:59
SPEAKER_00: Um red flag.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, there's quite a lot on there.
41:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you can reel them all off.
41:05
SPEAKER_01: Drinking is is a big red flag for me.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Like uh drinking to excess.
41:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I was just gonna say like drinking to excess at being hammers.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: Not being able to be social without having a drink.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I would say just does not align with how I would like to live my social life.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: Um just drinking for the sake of it, not for me.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Um I would also say self-care.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: Self-like if a lack of self-care.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: So self-neglect, so not having a um a decent diet, not really caring about what you put in your body, um drinking, smoking, those kind of things.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: Just if you don't if you're lazy and don't go to the gym, if your job's not active and you don't try and move your body, if you're not willing to look after yourself, you're not gonna look after me.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: So that for me.
41:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, red flag, I'm afraid.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: I think also how you present yourself to me is really important.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't think um, you know, you need to leave the house every day looking at like you're about to walk down a catwalk, but also you don't need to look like you work in a soup kitchen.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: No, exactly.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, you've got to feel confident and happy in yourself, but ultimately I find if I look nice, I feel good, I feel more confident.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: It's about how I make myself better made.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Feel, yeah.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: But also, I found out recently that did you know, BO, like body odor, is not from sweating, it's from bacteria on your skin.
42:29
SPEAKER_03: That's did you know the difference between deodorant and antiperspirant?
42:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it says it in the name.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: But that's what I mean.
42:36
SPEAKER_03: But it's only just sort of becoming out.
42:37
SPEAKER_03: So deodorant is does exactly what it does on it's deodorizes.
42:42
SPEAKER_03: Antiperspirant stops you sweating.
42:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:44
SPEAKER_03: Oh, interesting.
42:45
SPEAKER_03: Deodorant just masks Okay.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: It's yeah, it's only just come out.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's in the name.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: But but people are talking about it all of a sudden now, and I saw it the other day.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh, interesting.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: Is that because we've had a massive heat wave and everyone's sweating and smelling?
43:03
SPEAKER_03: So and I had a friend text me yesterday saying someone has BO in the office and I'm going to figure out who, and then she's like, it's the guy behind me.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: If someone's got BO, don't just give them deodorant, go and give them some hippie scrub because they've got bacteria on their skin.
43:17
SPEAKER_00: And they remove that.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I've asked Google what's better, deodorant or antiperspirant.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: Neither is universally better as it depends entirely on your own needs.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: Antiperspirants use aluminum compounds to temporarily temporarily block pores and reduce sweating.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Deodorants don't stop sweat, instead, they neutralize the odor-causing bacteria and use fragrance to keep you smelling fresh.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: So neither is better.
43:40
SPEAKER_00: I've started using Wild recently, product placement, sponsored us.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: And it smells absolutely glorious, but it's also meant to be really good for the planet as well.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, there you go.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: This leads on nicely to what you said about people that drink to excess.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: I wrote this down last night and it's pointing at me.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: Every part of my being wanted to share this with Liv last night.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: So I'm walking the dogs late last night because obviously it's been really hot recently.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: And as I'm walking back up the lane, like through the village, these two terriers dashed out of this house.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: And so there's all these nice row of really lovely houses, and there's one house on the end that looks like it's just been neglected for years.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: There's two caravans parked outside that are rusting and gross, all of the bushes are overgrown.
44:19
SPEAKER_00: It looks like like cheapest creeper's house.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: It's like you do not want to go in there, like you will be abducted.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so walking past and with my friend Joe, and these two dogs come running out, and I was like, What's going on?
44:30
SPEAKER_00: And they continue to follow us up the lane, but it's like on a main road.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: So I like handed her Bryn and I was like, Can you take the dogs?
44:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go and try and return these puppies.
44:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: So I walked back over, and the dogs, even though they were yapping at me, they were actually really sweet and friendly.
44:42
SPEAKER_00: I think they were just scared, and I was like, Why are they barking so much?
44:45
SPEAKER_00: So I like look through brain mind.
44:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm on my own.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: This is like I'm gonna end up on a Netflix documentary.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: Don't go in there, disappearance with Charlie Glemmick.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: This is literally a true crime thing going on.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, I'm like, hello, hello, hi, your dogs have escaped.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, you might want to lock your gate.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: No response.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: So it's really weird.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, outside the front, there's like not just your um recycling bins of bottles, there's then big supermarket bags, like the big boy ones, full to the brim of wine bottles.
45:13
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh fuck, it's obviously in like an alcoholic or or someone has died.
45:16
SPEAKER_00: I can't work out.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so I'm looking through the bushes and I can see this guy passed out on a table.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know how they say dog walkers are always the ones to find dead people?
45:28
unknown: Jesus Christ.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, honestly, this is the wildest Friday night I've had it in ages.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: I guess he's not dead because we're talking about it now.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, I shit on the phone.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I signed up for this.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: So I'm obviously female on my own.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going anywhere near that man.
45:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: And I saw, and I did see something the other day on TikTok.
45:48
SPEAKER_00: This girl shared that was like, My dad's a police officer, here's all the things he's shared with me to basically keep yourself safe.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: And it said, if there's ever a man on his own who asks for help, don't help him, he'll find a way.
45:58
SPEAKER_00: He's just prying on you because you're on your own.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: And it was like, even if there's another woman there, don't ever help them.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: But just don't ever put yourself in a situation.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: Fred and Rose West.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: But I'm looking through the bushes.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: There's like the end of this carrot, like there's the driveway, and then there's bushes, a little gate, and then you can then see through to the house.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking and I'm like, this man's not moved.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: And it's like he's rock solid still.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my god, is he in rigor mortis?
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, what is going on here?
46:19
SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
46:20
SPEAKER_00: But I can see he's got an airpod in his ear, and then two empty bottles next to him.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, fuck, what am I gonna do?
46:25
SPEAKER_00: What am I gonna do?
46:25
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, these dogs are running around.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, guys, like I don't know what to do with you.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: They didn't have collars on, no nothing.
46:30
SPEAKER_00: So I walk back out to the road.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: I then go to call my friend Joe and I was like, Joe, I need you to come back.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know whether we should be calling 999 because I'm not sure if he's dead or alive.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I am not going in because I really will be on a Netflix documentary.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, at this point, this lovely girl called Phoebe is running, and and I was like, Please can you help me?
46:45
SPEAKER_00: And she kind of looked really confused and like looked behind her.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: I was like, No, no, I was speaking to you.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I think this man is dead, I'm not really not sure what's going on.
46:51
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so she calls her dad, he comes running down from another house in the village, and her dad's like, he was like, You girls stay here, look after the dogs, I'll go through.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: So he's like shouting at this man, this man does not respond, but he was like, he's breathing.
47:05
SPEAKER_00: I can see it because I was like, Does he have a pulse?
47:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, what is going on?
47:09
SPEAKER_00: Wait to bury the lead.
47:11
SPEAKER_00: Comes back out, and he's like, I don't really know what we can do.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Well, you know, these dogs are locked outside, they're yapping, they're gonna get run over.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: Like, they could cause an accident, he's then liable.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: Is he well?
47:22
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, alcoholism, are you?
47:23
SPEAKER_00: Are you well?
47:24
SPEAKER_00: Are you okay?
47:25
SPEAKER_00: Then these other neighbours start walking down with their dog coming up from their dog walk, and I was like, What is this normal?
47:31
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, Yeah, he's an alcoholic, the dogs get out all the time.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, You guys seem really fucking blasé about it.
47:36
SPEAKER_00: Um anyway, in the end, this girl's dad goes and wakes up this guy and is like, Are you okay?
47:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, your dogs have run out.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: He is hammered.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: So talk about drinking to excess, so he's clearly got a serious problem.
47:51
SPEAKER_00: He came walking out, like almost like speak to everyone.
47:54
SPEAKER_00: He's like burnt to a crisp, but he's obviously been sat in the sun like no all day, and was like skeletal.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: That was like nothing to him, and it was and he was like, Oh, sorry, everyone.
48:04
SPEAKER_00: I better look alright moron.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: And I was thinking, Yeah, yeah, but also seriously dangerous.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like what do you do in that situation?
48:13
SPEAKER_00: I was a bit like we were we reported it to 101, like the non-emergency number, so they had a record of it.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: But like I was literally like, I was like, we need a real adult here, not me.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: So I was so glad that that girl's dad came.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: I was like, I don't know, I don't know what we're meant to do.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: You are a real adult.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a real adult.
48:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a real adult.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: You are, but I was like, I don't I don't I genuinely was like, what what what do I do here?
48:35
SPEAKER_00: Do you call the police?
48:36
SPEAKER_00: Do you like is he dead?
48:39
SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
48:39
SPEAKER_00: But if someone's suffering with alcoholism, like what what are you meant to do?
48:43
SPEAKER_00: And there was no phone signal, so I couldn't ask Google.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it's in the Cotswolds.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: There's no phone signal in the Cottswords.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: But fuck Noah.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
48:50
SPEAKER_00: So talk about drinking to excess, that would be a that would be a red flag for you.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: That would have been a red flag for me.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean that'd be a red flag for most people.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: That's that's concerning.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: I mean, at least you you highlighted it to 101, you reported it.
49:02
SPEAKER_01: And it sounds like his neighbours know about it.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: Like it happens all the time.
49:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they've probably reported it before and nothing's happened.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was honestly insane.
49:09
SPEAKER_00: It was honestly insane.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: It's wild.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, Izzy, to bring it home.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: Have you got any personal icks that you can share with us or anything that you've maybe seen or other friends' icks that you've been on a date and you've gone ick.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Um I guess normal ones like bad nails, if they bite their nails down to the down to the quick, yuck, ew.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, nasty feet.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: I really don't like feet at all.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: Icky, icky, icky.
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Um if they I think if I was like queen for a day, I'd say open toe shoes.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm mm-mm.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: Really?
49:44
SPEAKER_01: Band.
49:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm bad flip-flops.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: You've got to have really nice feet to wear flip-flops, I think.
49:49
SPEAKER_00: I almost wore sandals today, so I bet you're glad I didn't.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: You look classy.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
49:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, bad icks.
49:56
SPEAKER_01: I think I think one.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: Let me think of a decent one.
50:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: A guy that shaves his legs and oh my god.
50:07
SPEAKER_03: Don't like that.
50:08
SPEAKER_03: My first ever boyfriend was a triathlete and he used to wax or shave his hair.
50:11
SPEAKER_03: I think athletes, you know, if they have two, I mean that shortly.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: Does it make that much of a difference?
50:17
SPEAKER_00: A shaved chest.
50:19
SPEAKER_03: Icky, icky, icky.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: We don't want that.
50:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we do.
50:26
SPEAKER_03: I can't mention it.
50:27
SPEAKER_03: We can just a friend of ours, the dog man.
50:31
SPEAKER_03: He shaves his chest.
50:32
SPEAKER_03: Oh, dog man.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we call him the dog man.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: No shaved chest.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Icky.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I did see something on Instagram, and I'll I'll I'll put it to you and then you see what you think.
50:43
SPEAKER_01: I saw something on Instagram that said, you know, if you want to if you want to work out if you're genuinely in love with somebody, just picture your man or woman just walking along a street, walking through the supermarket, and then all of a sudden they drop into a perfect split.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: Like Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.
51:00
SPEAKER_03: Are you talking box splits or are we talking box splits?
51:03
SPEAKER_01: They just drop into a perfect flawless split.
51:05
SPEAKER_01: Do you think to yourself, ew, or do you think, my flexible king?
51:11
SPEAKER_03: Am I dating Louis Spence?
51:14
SPEAKER_01: Yes, babes.
51:15
unknown: I'm like a whip it.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, how do you respond to that if you're if your man just drops into a split just like that?
51:22
SPEAKER_00: I'd actually be really impressed if I didn't know you could do the splits.
51:24
SPEAKER_03: I'd be like, get up.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: I would be like, get up.
51:27
SPEAKER_03: I think men would sexualise it if it's us as women, but um yeah, I think if a man, yeah, because I don't want to sit.
51:33
SPEAKER_03: We said this in the first episode ever.
51:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to see my boyfriend doing the downward-facing dog.
51:38
SPEAKER_03: No.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: So we're talking about yoga, and I was like, leave the old leave the old man alone if they're doing it from ability.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yoga's good for everyone.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: And they have an accidental fart.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Good for them.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: They're moving, at least.
51:50
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be around that, but but um yeah, I just I just thought of that as like just just that mental image of imagine your crush dropping into a perfect split in front of you in some public place.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: How would you feel?
52:02
SPEAKER_00: I honestly I think I'd be impressed.
52:03
SPEAKER_00: If you've not watched the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, America's Sweethearts and Netflix.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: You're telling me if Charlie came in here right now and I'm just into a perfect split, you'd be like, Look, if you did it at the end of Thunder, I'd be cheering him up.
52:13
SPEAKER_00: Get your pom-poms out.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: I think the split's well impressive.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've got zero hamstring flexibility, so like I bend over and I'm like, so you know I've never been able to do it.
52:24
SPEAKER_03: She's rendered me speechless, but now I've got a mental image of a boyfriend doing the splits.
52:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sorry.
52:29
SPEAKER_03: Sorry about it.
52:29
SPEAKER_03: He's not for you.
52:30
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
52:31
SPEAKER_03: I love him dearly, but fucking hell.
52:35
SPEAKER_03: Sorry, Charles, you've been used as fodder yet again.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: Charlie.
52:42
SPEAKER_00: That's a good thing to think about.
52:44
SPEAKER_00: So what's next, Izzy Bailey?
52:47
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you got your PhD going on.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: I've got a pretty she's a pretty huge deal.
52:53
SPEAKER_01: I've got a pretty huge doctorate going on.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm gonna just um that is my focus.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: It's my it's the only thing I've got specifically going on long term at the minute.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, bit more, bit more travelling planned.
53:05
SPEAKER_01: Go out to the states again.
53:06
SPEAKER_01: I always go out to the states for the winter.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love that.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you've been to Hawaii, haven't you, as well?
53:11
SPEAKER_01: I have, yes.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: Hawaii was amazing.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
53:16
SPEAKER_01: Um severe lack of pineapples now that I'm back in the UK, which is sad.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I'd love to go back.
53:24
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, just some travelling, research, and no dating apps for me.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: No, just gonna I'm just gonna wait till the one finds me at home, sitting, surrounded by my books, and says, Do you want me to make you a coffee?
53:37
SPEAKER_01: And then I'll know.
53:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if you like love actually, you know, with the cards outside the door, to me, you are.
53:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I wouldn't be married at the time that he did that.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:45
SPEAKER_01: I look quite pretty.
53:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
53:47
SPEAKER_04: I look quite pretty.
53:48
SPEAKER_03: I look quite pretty.
53:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: Oh, who okay, so who in Love Actually would you go, would you go out with?
53:56
SPEAKER_01: I have this conversation quite a lot with one of my friends.
53:58
SPEAKER_03: You grant me, baby.
53:59
SPEAKER_03: Hugh Grant me.
54:00
SPEAKER_03: Fucking grant me.
54:01
SPEAKER_03: Really?
54:02
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
54:03
SPEAKER_03: I'd run through an airport and jump on that man.
54:05
SPEAKER_03: Fuck yeah.
54:05
SPEAKER_00: The way he is in that I'm I'm thinking about it, but how he how he looks, he's in his prime there.
54:12
SPEAKER_03: Spill fucking naive, because he's a pervert and I love it.
54:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
54:17
SPEAKER_03: Give it to me.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: He'd teach you some stuff, wouldn't he?
54:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: Don't do don't do drugs kids.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: Become a pop star and they give you them for free.
54:26
SPEAKER_01: He wears like those horrible like crocodile skin suits or whatever like that.
54:29
SPEAKER_03: What a fucking bloke.
54:30
SPEAKER_03: Winkle pickers.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: Winkle pickers and leather trousers.
54:32
SPEAKER_03: Go on, lads.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: But he's also in Harry Potter as well.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: He's diverse.
54:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he's such a bloke.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
54:36
SPEAKER_00: Minister of magic.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: Who would you want to be with?
54:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh.
54:41
SPEAKER_03: Don't say Martin Freeman in the porn bit.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: No.
54:45
SPEAKER_01: No.
54:46
SPEAKER_00: Um go on, Bilbo.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: Get it.
54:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I can't.
54:55
SPEAKER_01: Don't know.
54:56
SPEAKER_01: I can never decide.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: Probably Kiara Knightley.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm still giving it some thoughts.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: Kira Knightley.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm still giving it some thought.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Who's my name is Colin Fresolana?
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Hello, big.
55:06
SPEAKER_03: No.
55:06
SPEAKER_03: Colin, I reckon.
55:07
SPEAKER_03: That was fun.
55:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's he was Nick in my family, if anyone watches it.
55:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did.
55:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:11
SPEAKER_00: Jam Pack pull up on him.
55:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's funny.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: Maybe him.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: He'd be fun, wouldn't he?
55:16
SPEAKER_00: He's a good time.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, Izzy, thank you for joining us.
55:20
SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much for having me.
55:21
SPEAKER_00: It's been fun.
55:22
SPEAKER_00: On the couch.
55:23
SPEAKER_00: Pleasure.
55:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, and if anyone wants to check out Izzy's Wikipedia page, or update it for me.
55:27
SPEAKER_00: We'll update it.
55:28
SPEAKER_00: We will update it.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, thank you for coming on.
55:32
SPEAKER_00: We appreciate you.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for sharing all of your career experiences.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: Pleasure.
55:37
SPEAKER_00: And giving us your insight.
55:39
SPEAKER_00: We appreciate you.
55:40
SPEAKER_00: Thank you very much for having me.
55:41
SPEAKER_00: It's been super fun.
55:43
SPEAKER_04: We love pleasure.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: And until next Friday, stay toxic.