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A Game for the Ages: Texas STUNS Ohio State, plus CNN Pretends to be Bewildered by Islamism · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, it is Vertical Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
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  Speaker 1: you as well. Senator, it was one heck of a week.
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  Speaker 1: Convention to maybe one of the greatest football games in
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  Speaker 1: Texas history. You were there. It was fun, to say
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  Speaker 1: the least. The big victory, and I do love your
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  Speaker 1: little tweets afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: Curse, what curse? We'll get into that as well, but
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  Speaker 2: it was a really exciting week.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so this weekend was simply a spectacular weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that it is possible to have more
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  Speaker 3: fun than I had this weekend. I was up in
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  Speaker 3: Austin for the game between UT and Ohio State. Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State came in number one in the nation. UT was
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  Speaker 3: number four in the nation. We had lost the last
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  Speaker 3: two times we played Ohio State. And it was incredible.
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  Speaker 3: The comeback was unbelievable. I'm going to walk you guys
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  Speaker 3: through it because just being on the ground, the energy
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  Speaker 3: in the stadium, Daryl K. Royal was on fire. And
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  Speaker 3: it was, look, the first half was heartbreaking. The Longhorns
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  Speaker 3: played about as bad a football as they could play.
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  Speaker 3: It was maddening. We went into halftime down 23-3. The
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  Speaker 3: opening play is a fumble. The next drive, we have
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  Speaker 3: an interception that was a bizarre interception that bounces off
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  Speaker 3: the receiver and just kind of wobbles in the air
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  Speaker 3: and right into the hands of Ohio State's player. Look,
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  Speaker 3: that whole first half, our receivers were having a really
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  Speaker 3: hard time catching. We had a wide open touchdown in
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  Speaker 3: the end zone that we dropped. And Arch Manning, who
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  Speaker 3: is one hell of a quarterback, but he was tight.
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  Speaker 3: He was throwing high. Like it was as rough a
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  Speaker 3: half as you could have in football. Yeah. And then
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  Speaker 3: the second half was as good a half as you
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  Speaker 3: could have in football. And the second half was a
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  Speaker 3: little better than the first half was bad. And like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, twice they went for it on fourth and long,
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  Speaker 3: once fourth and nine, once fourth and six. Made it
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  Speaker 3: both times. I mean, those are gutsy calls, gutsy plays.
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  Speaker 3: Manning played like a man possessed in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: He did.
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  Speaker 3: And it was beautiful to watch. And that final drive. Look,
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  Speaker 3: the feel in the stadium. You could just feel we're
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  Speaker 3: going down the field. We're going down the field. You
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  Speaker 3: could feel... the seconds ticking off the clock, and the nervousness.
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State kept calling timeout because they recognized what was
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  Speaker 3: going on. Oh, yeah. And we're sitting there, and I
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  Speaker 3: think it was the one-yard line, and we got four
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  Speaker 3: downs to punch it in. And it wasn't every time
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  Speaker 3: you're just ticking seconds off the clock. It was spectacular
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  Speaker 3: and awesome and a perfect weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get more into that. And plus,
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  Speaker 1: you get to rush the field, something I've gotten to
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  Speaker 1: do once in my life. It is absolutely a blast.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that as well, plus some
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  Speaker 1: other big issues. But before we get to that, I
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  Speaker 1: want to take a moment. I want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about something that just happened in Massachusetts. And most
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  Speaker 1: of the country has no idea. The state just passed
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  Speaker 1: a law allowing abortion through the eighth and nine months
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  Speaker 1: of pregnancy.
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  Speaker 2: Right up until birth.
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  Speaker 1: Based on any reason, an abortion doctor gives no exceptions,
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  Speaker 1: no limits, and this can include babies capable of surviving
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  Speaker 1: outside the womb.
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  Speaker 2: And under this law, that fact would not stop it.
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  Speaker 1: The law also strips away formally mandatory safety requirements for
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  Speaker 1: abortion providers and removes specific accountability when women are harmed.
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  Speaker 2: Less oversight, less protection, and no consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Gallup's polling also shows that most Americans, including most who
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  Speaker 1: call themselves pro-choice, don't support abortion this late in the pregnancy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this isn't a fringe position.
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  Speaker 1: This is common ground, and Massachusetts just ignored all of it.
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  Speaker 1: forward slash verdict. All right, so let's get back to
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  Speaker 1: the game real quick, Senator. And I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: it was funny. I was on the golf course caddying
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  Speaker 1: for my son in a tournament and my phone blew
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  Speaker 1: up earlier in the morning, way before the game started.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked down, I've got like 30 something text
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  Speaker 1: messages from people. They're like, dude, they're booing Ted at
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  Speaker 1: game day.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: And then I get the video sent and And I
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  Speaker 1: see you're on there talking about a bill we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about on this show a lot. So, so set the
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  Speaker 1: stage for, and by the way, I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: you were doing game day. We were together at the convention.
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  Speaker 1: I felt, I was like, wait, what's happening? How, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here? So talk about when that was even
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  Speaker 1: asked for you to come on there, talk about this
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  Speaker 1: safe sports act and everything behind it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I mentioned this, this weekend was as cool
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  Speaker 3: a weekend as, as, as I probably ever had. Um,
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  Speaker 3: it started the game day thing happened very, very late.
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  Speaker 3: So it was Friday night, like seven, eight o'clock at night. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: ESPN extended the invitation and said, Hey, can you come on,
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  Speaker 3: on game day tomorrow to talk about the protect college
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  Speaker 3: sports act, which, which the Senate is going to take
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  Speaker 3: up either next week or the week after, but it's
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  Speaker 3: teed up to be the second vote when we get back. Uh, and,
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  Speaker 3: and it obviously it impacts college sports profoundly. And so
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  Speaker 3: they wanted me to come talk about it, but it
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  Speaker 3: was Friday night late that they extend the invite. And
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  Speaker 3: the interview was going to be early Saturday morning. So
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  Speaker 3: I had to get up Saturday morning at four in
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  Speaker 3: the morning and drive. I left Houston at 5 a.m.
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  Speaker 3: to drive up to get to Austin to do the interview. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so I went up there and I got to say, look,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, to show up on college game day, if
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  Speaker 3: I were to list a thousand things I thought I
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  Speaker 3: would do, that would not be one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would not be on it.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let's be clear. I can't throw a 60-foot touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: I can't even probably throw a 60-yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: I would say we'll go with yard there. Maybe 60-foot.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you're not lying on that one.
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  Speaker 3: I actually feel pretty confident I couldn't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I could throw a 60-foot. It'd be 20 yards.
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  Speaker 3: I might be able to do that. But I ain't
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  Speaker 3: going to be on college game day for my athletic prowess.
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  Speaker 3: I feel quite confident. Your tennis game is more likely
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  Speaker 3: to get you on there than my sports ability, although
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  Speaker 3: I can still take you at hoops, so I'll take
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  Speaker 3: some credit for that. But I'm a mediocre high school
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  Speaker 3: hoops player, so I ain't getting on game day for
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  Speaker 3: that either. So it was very cool to be on
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  Speaker 3: College Game Day.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, you know one of the hosts
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  Speaker 2: on Game Day, Nick Saban, as well.
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  Speaker 3: I know Nick well. He has been really integral in
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  Speaker 3: getting the Protect College Sports Act through. Coach Saban came by.
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  Speaker 3: It was great to see him. In fact, he came
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  Speaker 3: by and just gave me a high five right before
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  Speaker 3: we started the interview, which was cool to see him
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  Speaker 3: and to get that encouragement. And the substantive interview, I thought,
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  Speaker 3: was great. It was all about what does this bill do?
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  Speaker 3: Why is it important? Talking about the crisis in college sports,
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  Speaker 3: the need to protect it, the need to protect athletes,
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  Speaker 3: the need to protect the roster slots and scholarship slots
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  Speaker 3: for women's sports and Olympic sports. So it was all
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  Speaker 3: on the substance. It was a great interview. And you
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  Speaker 3: had a bunch of students that were there. And almost
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  Speaker 3: immediately when I start, There's heckling from the crowd, and
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  Speaker 3: there's heckling from the crowd, and there are what I
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  Speaker 3: guess were students who are yelling, and they start chanting
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  Speaker 3: and chanting insults. And I will say it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: interesting trying to do an interview, and it was about
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  Speaker 3: a 10-minute interview, talking about the substance of legislation while
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  Speaker 3: you've got kind of over on the side some people screaming.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see who it was because I'm paying attention
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  Speaker 3: to the interview. But that then proceeded with everyone on
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  Speaker 3: Twitter going crazy with it and retweeting it. And unsurprisingly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, every lefty on earth who doesn't like this
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  Speaker 3: just going crazy and being really thrilled with that footage.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let me also say this, Senator.
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  Speaker 1: Look, you and I have traveled together a lot. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen the great. We've seen the bad. We've seen the ugly.
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  Speaker 1: We've been to sporting events together. But let me just
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  Speaker 1: set a little bit of a background stage for the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of game days just as a
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  Speaker 1: sports fan, Ole Miss. And I can tell you, like,
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  Speaker 1: the politics of game day doesn't really exist if you
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  Speaker 1: go back in history and look. It is either the
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  Speaker 1: other team sucks and we're amazing– It is college kids
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  Speaker 1: in the South, by the way, majority of the time,
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  Speaker 1: they're like hardcore conservative. They're wearing the, I remember the
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  Speaker 1: Bush stickers and Cheney in 04.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a fun time.
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  Speaker 1: And then after I got the golf course and I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at it, I'm laughing because some people may not
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  Speaker 1: know the past here. You and I, I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of my still this day most viral tweets was you
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  Speaker 1: and I going to an Astros game, and there's this
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  Speaker 1: mantra by Democrats, and they've been using it for years
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  Speaker 1: that any game you go to, the team you're there
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  Speaker 1: to support loses.
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  Speaker 2: Now, they forget all the World.
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  Speaker 1: Series games that you were at when the Astros, for example, win,
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  Speaker 1: and all the games like last night that are massive
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  Speaker 1: against the number one team in the nation that you win,
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  Speaker 1: but they've used this as a way to attack. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: there was even a campaign ad. if I remember correctly.
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  Speaker 1: Was it last Allred or was it Beto that did it?
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  Speaker 1: It was like the Cruz curse. Allred, yeah, it was Allred.
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  Speaker 1: And so it was preplanned. So when I went back
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  Speaker 1: and looked at the videos, I'm like, okay. My gut
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  Speaker 1: is this is all preplanned. And the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: say that is because there were texts going around because
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  Speaker 1: Tallarico was also the game and they were almost rooting
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  Speaker 1: against Texas where he's running for Senate just so he
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  Speaker 1: could say it's a Cruz curse with like pre-prepared memes
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  Speaker 1: and all of this other like propaganda against you and
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  Speaker 1: Republicans like, oh, look, if somehow Tallarico would be, if
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  Speaker 1: he was a center, this would never happen. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people knew that whole background.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I have no idea. I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: that I spent the entire evening at the stadium and
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  Speaker 3: virtually every other interaction I had with students was high
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  Speaker 3: fives and hugging them and celebrating. And so, look, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, but I can tell you it was so
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  Speaker 3: much fun. It was so incredible. That comeback, and you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned storming the field. So a little bit of history.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, you had a legit, you had
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  Speaker 1: a legit posse that you stormed the field with.
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  Speaker 2: So make sure you tell that as well.
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  Speaker 3: So look, let's step back. You, you, you mentioned this,
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  Speaker 3: this online nonsense about the cruise curse. So it's something that,
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  Speaker 3: that Twitter has decided that if I attend a game, uh,
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  Speaker 3: that the team loses. Now understand, I attend a ton of, of,
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  Speaker 3: of sporting events, basketball, football, uh, baseball. Um, I love
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  Speaker 3: cheering on college teams, pro teams. So I go to
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  Speaker 3: a lot of games. So my record is by and
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  Speaker 3: large for the last decade, the state of Texas's record.
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  Speaker 3: So when we win, I'm almost always there. When we lose,
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  Speaker 3: I'm almost always there. Like if it's a big game,
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  Speaker 3: I'm usually there. And so as you noted, the Astros,
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  Speaker 3: you know, for the past eight years, Catherine, my youngest
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  Speaker 3: daughter and I have gone to almost every single home
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  Speaker 3: playoff game. So we went all the way through seven
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  Speaker 3: consecutive ALCSs, four World Series, and two World Series wins.
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  Speaker 3: And I was there for the wins. I was there
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  Speaker 3: for the losses. But that ain't a bad run. That's
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  Speaker 3: one of the most historically successful runs ever. So then
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  Speaker 3: Twitter decided, oh, okay, it's only a football curse. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I've also been in a lot of really good football games.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, look, this game for me, I was thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it, It is either number two or number three
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  Speaker 3: in the best football games I've ever been to. Number one,
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  Speaker 3: hands down, was 2005. Heidi and I went to the
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  Speaker 3: UT-USC National Championship in the Rose Bowl. That's when Vince
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  Speaker 3: Young rose up like a man among boys, won that.
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  Speaker 3: That was our last national championship, and we were right there.
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  Speaker 3: That was incredible. That remains my number one football game
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  Speaker 3: of all time. Prior to Saturday night, my number two
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  Speaker 3: was five years ago. I was there when A &
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  Speaker 3: M beat Alabama. Alabama at the time was the number
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  Speaker 3: one team in the country. And A & M had
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  Speaker 3: just suffered two hard losses. I mean, A & M,
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  Speaker 3: their expectations were not high going into that game. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of felt like I thought A & M was
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  Speaker 3: a better team than the media were giving them credit for.
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  Speaker 3: And they had a chip on their shoulder because they
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  Speaker 3: just had two losses. It struck me as the kind
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  Speaker 3: of game I could see Alabama being overconfident, saying we're
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  Speaker 3: going to sweep in. They were playing in Kyle Field.
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  Speaker 3: That game was unbelievable. And you've heard me admit before
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  Speaker 3: that I am actually embarrassed. Five years ago when the
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  Speaker 3: Aggies beat Alabama, I did not rush the fields. And
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  Speaker 3: when I'm with Aggies.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bucket list thing, by the way. It's a
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  Speaker 2: bucket list thing to rush the field.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I just confess to like rooms full of Aggies.
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  Speaker 3: I say, listen, this is just a character failing. I
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  Speaker 3: have no defense. I can say nothing other than I'm
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  Speaker 3: sorry and I should have and it was wrong. So
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  Speaker 3: I got to say, on Saturday when we did this comeback,
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  Speaker 3: I was not going to repeat that mistake a second time.
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  Speaker 3: And so I looked at my security detail and I said,
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  Speaker 3: we're headed to the field right now. And I got
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  Speaker 3: to say. Like rushing the field after that comeback victory.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so fun.
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  Speaker 3: It was beyond awesome. And you're like high-fiving students and
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  Speaker 3: hugging them. And everyone is thrilled. And there were like
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  Speaker 3: little kids and students laying on the turf doing like
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  Speaker 3: snow angels on the turf. They were dancing. They were crying.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was spectacular. And so, look, if some
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  Speaker 3: knuckleheads wanted to yell during college game day, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: There ain't nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that beats the end of that night.
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  Speaker 3: That these little lefties can do that can take even
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  Speaker 3: one iota off what was truly a magical day.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, you got to tell who you rushed
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  Speaker 1: the field with because that was half the fun part
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  Speaker 1: of this.
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  Speaker 2: Like, the group around you is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, in particular, my best friend, my college roommate and
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  Speaker 3: law school roommate, a guy named David Panton, who's this big...
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  Speaker 3: six foot three Jamaican who was the best man at
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  Speaker 3: my wedding. He was down there. It was really fun
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  Speaker 3: to go to the game with David. And, and it
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  Speaker 3: was like the, the enthusiasm was, was palpable. And, and look,
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  Speaker 3: it was just, it was a, it was a perfect day.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. It was fun.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the big win. I hope you're this enthusiastic
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  Speaker 1: next week for me. When Ole Miss plays LSU, okay?
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  Speaker 1: So just remember this enthusiasm, and I need you to
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  Speaker 1: bottle it for next week for me.
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  Speaker 2: Got it?
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  Speaker 3: So look, I got to say, is there a person
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  Speaker 3: more despised in the state of Mississippi than Lane Kiffin?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, there's not.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I mean, I'm telling you, I'm shocked you
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  Speaker 1: haven't invited yourself to the game next week because it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be that lit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to be out of control. I
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  Speaker 2: cannot wait to be there.
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  Speaker 1: And one of my good friends, Mike Wallace, is getting
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  Speaker 1: inducted into college.
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  Speaker 2: The Ole Miss Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to get to be on the field
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  Speaker 1: when he gets inducted, which is even more fun.
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  Speaker 2: So I can't wait to be there for that. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a blast.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, for the folks listening that are
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  Speaker 3: not sports fans, and we've got listeners of Verdict that
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  Speaker 3: are and are not, Lane Keffen was the head football
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  Speaker 3: coach at Ole Miss, and last year he left. Abandoned.
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  Speaker 2: The word we use is abandon the team.
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  Speaker 3: And that's fair. Going into the playoffs, like while his
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  Speaker 3: team is still playing and headed to the playoffs, He
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  Speaker 3: left and went to LSU. And it's so bad, actually,
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  Speaker 3: that there's a provision in the Protect College Sports Act
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  Speaker 3: that I wrote that's called the Lane-Kiffin Rule.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: The Lane-Kiffin Rule.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: That says a school cannot recruit a coach while the
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: season or the playoffs are still going on. What we
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: did is we adopted the NFL rule. So in the NFL,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: you can't recruit a coach during the season or the playoffs.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: In the offseason, you can go recruit a coach. And
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I just think what Kiffin did to the kids at
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss– It's really unfair to your players to leave
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: them while they're still in the middle of competing. And
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I will say that on top of that, we had
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a provision of this bill called the Lane-Kiffin rule. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: then in the last two weeks, where he goes and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: recruits two players who had been in the NFL to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: come back at LSU. I've actually joked, I think Lane-Kiffin
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: is the lead lobbyist trying to get the Protect College
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Sports Act passed. Because, look, LSU was about... four seconds
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: away from being thrown out of the SEC. And it was,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: the anger to LSU was palpable. I think that moment
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: has passed, but because Kiffin backed away, and I'll say
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: between Kiffin recruiting two NFL players and then earlier Brendan
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Sorsby trying to play quarterback at Texas Tech after having
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: been caught repeatedly betting on his own games and That combination, look,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: the Protect College Sports Act makes clear that pros cannot
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: play in college sports. It also makes clear that you
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: can and should block eligibility of players for gambling. Those
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: two events, I think, only built the momentum behind the bill.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: You said this week, and let's get into the politics
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of this for a moment. You said you believe that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you actually will get to the votes needed for this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And this is going to come up in the next
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: week or two, you believe. What has changed and why
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: do you think that's the case? Is it partly because
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of this news headlines and what we've been seeing with
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: these NFL players, et cetera?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Look, yes. And at this point, the coalition behind the
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: bill is massive. So we have 24 conferences behind it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: We have over 370 colleges and universities behind it. The
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: NBA has endorsed it. The NFL, Major League Baseball, the
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: National Hockey League, the NBA Players Association, the NFL's Players
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Association have both endorsed it. The National Olympic Committee has
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: endorsed it. We have over 100 coaches who have endorsed it,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: including Nick Saban, including John Calipari. It is an incredible...
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: incredibly broad coalition that is supporting this. And when we
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: moved the bill out of committee, the Commerce Committee, which
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I chair, the vote was 19 to 9. So we
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: got over 70% of the senators on board supporting it.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: We're going to be voting. So we are locked in
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: that this is the second vote up for the Senate.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So when we get back, the first vote up is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: what's called the Clarity Act, which is a big crypto act.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: designed to provide some structure for crypto. transactions. As we
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: sit here today, it is not clear whether the Democrats
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: will filibuster the Clarity Act or not.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's rumor they are going to.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to get onto the Clarity Act, we need 60 votes.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: There are only 53 Republicans. So if the Democrats all
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: vote no, they can block the crypto bill. So we'll
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: find out. That'll be teed up first. One of two
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: things will happen. Either they filibuster it or they don't.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: If they filibuster it, we'll vote on clarity. They'll deny
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: us 60 votes and it'll be done. If that happens,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: college sports pops immediately next. We'll be voting on it
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: either Tuesday or Wednesday of this coming week. If the Democrats' surprises,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: if they decide, okay, we're going to give you 60 votes,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: we're not going to filibuster it. then processing the Clarity
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Act will take about a week. It'll probably take the
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: rest of the week to finish Clarity, which means we
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: will likely move to college sports either the end of
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: this week or the beginning of next week. So either way,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: it will be up for a vote either this week
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: or next week. And I believe we're going to get
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: the votes. My objective from day one was not to
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: eke by with just 60 votes, but to get a
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: big bipartisan vote I'm not certain we will get there.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: When we were in committee, both the SEC and Big
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Ten were opposing us. That's changed now. They're supporting it
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: as well. That's helped broaden the coalition. My hope is
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: we get a really big vote, send it over to
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: the House, have the House pass it. And actually, the
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: plan that I pitched to the President, the President's agreed,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: is to have him sign it on College Game Day.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: And by the way, my advice would be, Make sure
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: they don't let the Democrats plant people in the crowd
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to boo the president. But we can process.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Learn from your day. Yeah, exactly. That's so good. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: love it.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: We're going to keep you updated on this bill that
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I can promise you because it could happen this week
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: or next, but we'll have it covered for you here
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: on Verdict.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I can promise you that.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Now, before we get on to this other topic, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: want to talk about that CNN losing their minds over
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: your speech that you gave at the Republican Midterm Convention.
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• 22:52
  Speaker 1: All right, Senator, so let's go back to the midterm
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: convention and your speech. We played that speech here. If
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you missed it, it was one heck of a speech.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I'd encourage people to go watch it on X. Or
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: download the podcast as well, and you can hear it there.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: But one of the interesting things that came out of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: your speech was the reaction to you being honest and blunt.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: about radical Islamists and this idea that there's no such thing.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: There's shockingly a debate about this now, even in the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: 25th anniversary of 9-11 happening this week. And CNN was
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: frustrated with you for the way that you were being
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: so blunt. Now, you didn't say Islam. You didn't say
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the whole religion. You made it clear, Islamists, radical extremists.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And yet they are acting like you're talking about anyone
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that is Muslim.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Well, as you noted, on Thursday, I spoke to the
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Republican Midterm Convention, and the central theme of my speech
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was that we are at a time for choosing. We're
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: at a fundamental fork in the road, and on the left,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: we're witnessing a red-green alliance, a combination of communists, of Marxists,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: and Islamists coming together and trying to take over the
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Democrat Party and having real success. And I was laying
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: out the twin dangers of communism and Islamism. And the
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: two are united because they share the same enemies. They
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: hate Christians. They hate Jews. They hate capitalists. They hate
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: the Constitution. They hate America. And I laid that out.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And I got to say, CNN lost its minds over that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: They really did not want me calling out what was
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: happening in the Democrat Party. And in particular, on the
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: 25th anniversary of 9-11, it was too much.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: For them to handle. Listen to your friend, Abby Phillip,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: and the remainder of the panel just have a really
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: hard time with my speech to the convention.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: So there's commentary, obviously, about socialism, communism. We've been talking
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: about that. But the real theme there was Islam as
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: the enemy. Why?
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Why is an entire religion an enemy?
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: Because his eyes are open. He's been paying attention. This
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: is sharp elbow politics. It's tough rhetoric. I get it
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: why anybody's offended by it, but he's giving as good
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: as he got. He's talking about Mamdani as well as El-Sayed,
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: but mostly Mamdani. And he's talking about Mamdani because Mamdani
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: does things like campaign with Hassan Baikar. like campaign with
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: an unindicted co-conspirator of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: like an al-Qaeda lawyer. When he said on the 20th
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: anniversary of 9-11... You didn't answer my question. I'm answering.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: You didn't answer my question, which is why is the
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: religion in and of itself... being described as the.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Enemy of the United States.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: You're putting words in his mouth there. What he's describing
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: is the, yes you are, what he's describing is the
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Islamism that Mandani and Al-Said are both very comfortable with.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: And then when these deliberate provocations are provocative and people
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: notice them, their fans turn around and say, well, how
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: dare you? How have you the gall to notice this
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: thing that we all noticed as well?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: How do you figure the overwhelming success that Mandani had
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Like defying all of the pundits, all of the inside crowd.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: And here's this guy, a Muslim guy, 40 years old
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: or whatever, not even 40. And he stomped Andrew Cuomo.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: He stomped him.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: He barely won 50% in the first round.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It is not a stop.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: New York City really did revolt against this guy. He
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: underperformed it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: No, it's not true.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: He underperformed in a Democratic.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: All right. I answered your question. What is true is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: that he's the.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Most popular politician in New York right now. That is true.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He's very popular among Democrats.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Do we think that NYPD Commissioner Tisch was a delusional
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: bigot when she said we all have to stop muddling
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: the waters here? We all have to be clear about
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: who the terrorists were. And shame on those who are
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: saying that the terrorists and the heroes are one in
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: the same. Which Mamdani said in 2020 when he said,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: we mourn the 3,000 dead and the killing hasn't stopped.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You're the one muddying the waters. Terrorists are terrorists. I'm
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: asking why Ted Cruz and you seem to want to
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: make an entire religion.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Again, you're putting words in my mouth, and I can't
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: say it enough. The people who support radical Islamist violence
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: are the people he's talking about.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: He didn't say radical Islamist violence. He said Islamism.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: He didn't say Islam.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: He didn't say Islam, exactly. You know the definitions. Excuse me?
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: So you're saying.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Radical Islamic terrorism and Islamism are the same thing?
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And Islam is not the.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Same, just like Palestinianism and being pro-Palestine are not the
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: same thing.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: That is a ridiculous argument now.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: I'm surprised you've never encountered it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: That is a ridiculous argument.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: It is so common. It's like a social studies class.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Because I study the subject matter.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: What's what we do here?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: By the way, as somebody who I'm sure would object
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: to the idea of people considering Zionism and Judaism the
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: same thing, I'm surprised that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You would make.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: That connection about an entire religion that millions and millions
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: of people in this world are a part of. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: the vast majority of them are not terrorists.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: They're distinct things and they have distinctions between them, which
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: is that there is a distinction between Islamism and Islam
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: and being a Muslim. There are distinct concepts. Of course,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: I would object to the distinctions being blurred because they
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: shouldn't be blurred.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Senator, I got to be honest with you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: You are way more careful in your clarification of of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Islam as religion and Islamists, which is radical terrorists and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that ideology than I have even been in my career.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: You make it a very clear distinction when talking about it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: And I do love that if they actually listen to
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: your speech, they read your speech, they listen to your words.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: You are not calling out Islam as a religion. You
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: are calling out the Islamists, which is a radical within
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that religion who is in favor of terrorism and preaches
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: it and wants there to be more of it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Well, I have to say, I made a comment before
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: playing that clip. I referred to Abby Phillip as your friend.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: There's a reason. You've done her show a bunch of times.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know her. I've never met her. But watching
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: that clip, there were two and only two possibilities. she
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: is either stunningly ignorant about Islamism and what it is,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: or she is deliberately dishonest. Those are the only two possibilities.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Because she repeatedly equates Islam and Islamism, and they're totally different.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: And so I actually decided, I just pulled out my
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: phone and said, let's type in. So I typed in
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the word Islamism. And here's what Google Gemini just pulls
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: up straight out of my phone. Islamism, is a political
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: ideology that asserts that the religion of Islam should guide
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: public life, legal codes, and political systems. So what is
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the difference? So let's continue on AI. Islam versus Islamism.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Islam is a global religion focused on faith, personal devotion, doctrine,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and spiritual patience. What is Islamism? a political and social
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: movement that seeks to use Islamic laws and tradition to
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: reorganize government and society. What are the core beliefs of Islamism?
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Number one, Sharia law. The primary goal is implementing Sharia
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: law as the foundation of the state and legal system,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: forcing Sharia law on people, including people who are not Muslims,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: who do not believe in Sharia law. What are the
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: other elements of it? rejection of secularism. Adherents argue that
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: religion and politics cannot be separated. They reject secular governance
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: where religion is separate from the state. And finally, alternative systems.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Proponents claim that an Islamic political system is superior to capitalism, communism,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and Western liberal democracy. Now, my guess, as I said,
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I If she knows that, she's being deliberately dishonest and
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: is being a propagandist. The alternative, she may just be
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: so staggeringly ignorant that she has no idea what it is.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: And by the way, if she wants to do a
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: little research, there's a book that I would recommend to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Abby and I would actually recommend to anybody who's interested
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: in this topic. And we just had the 25th anniversary
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: of 9-11, so it's a good time for that. The
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: book is entitled The Looming Tower. And it is by
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a guy named Lawrence Wright. Lawrence Wright is a left-wing
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: journalist based in Texas. He is not someone, in fact,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: he wrote a whole book some years later, Blasting Me
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and Blasting Other Republicans in Texas. But the looming tower
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: is a history of Islamism, and he traces the rise
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: of it that has its origins in Egypt in the
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: 1930s and then 40s and 50s. And by the way,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Islamism has killed more Muslims than it has Christians and Jews.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Islamism is behind Al-Qaeda. And 9-11, Islamism is behind ISIS.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Islamism is behind the Islamic revolution in Iran. But Islamism
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and Islamism is also the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: The Muslim Brotherhood, do you know who designates the Muslim
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Brotherhood as a terrorist organization?
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, these are Arab countries
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: that have dealt with Islamism and they're aware that these
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: are theocratic radicals that want to forcibly subjugate and force
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: everyone to comply with their mandates. And my point was
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: not that Muslims are taking over the Democrat Party, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the Islamists are. Listen, Mondami is an Islamist. He wants
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: to enforce. He's also a communist. He has said that
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: he wants to, quote, seize the means of production, which
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: is a verbatim quote from Karl Marx in The Heart
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: of Communism. But he literally, and Noah Rothman, who was
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: on that panel, did a good job. Listen, at the
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: 9-11 ceremony, he hands the signing pen to a lawyer
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: for Al-Qaeda, literally a lawyer who was representing the terrorist
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: who murdered nearly 3,000 Americans. Abdul Al-Sayed is an Islamist,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: he said. quote, he has an obligation to follow Sharia law.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: And Sharia law, to be clear, is used to strip
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: away millions of people's liberties, to force women to wear
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: hijabs against their wishes. Listen, if a woman chooses to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: wear hijab, that's a choice she can make. But we
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: are not in the United States going to allow Sharia
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: law to be forced on people against their wishes. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: for CNN to pretend... They don't know the difference. Actually,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: let me ask you, which do you think it is?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Does she not know the difference?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: She knows the difference. She knows the difference. She knows
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the difference.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Well, then that, to be honest, ignorance would be the
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: more benign explanation. Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go with she knows exactly what
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: she's doing.
• 33:59
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• 34:01
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