Latest / Draft Offsides Podcast / Player ADP from Every EPL Team I Ep 97
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- 0:00Yeah. Hello, welcome to episode 97 of
- 0:04Draft Offsides. I'm with Tibo Enzo.
- 0:06My name is Keith. We're getting close to 100 guys.
- 0:08Getting close to 100 we, we might, you know, we might be
- 0:11during the the draft order pie. Yeah, probably will be.
- 0:16Probably will be. That'll be pretty cool.
- 0:18It will be, we have an exciting episode today.
- 0:20We're going to just go through every single team.
- 0:23It's going to be, this is going to be a lot of information.
- 0:25We're going to try and get through it quick and so we're
- 0:27not going to try and bog you down too much.
- 0:29I think we're taking a little bit of different approach than a
- 0:32lot of people when they go through teams.
- 0:33I think we're not going to talk about like the star players.
- 0:36We just really want to like I kind of went through the teams
- 0:39and like the questions we had so we could like work through them
- 0:41together, you know, do a little group project and not so much
- 0:44focus on like that. That Bruno Fernandez is awfully
- 0:49good. You know, like we don't really
- 0:50want to do that. Yeah, be a little bit obvious.
- 0:53Yeah, so China skipping over that stuff, but OK, first thing
- 0:55using notes. Probably the biggest piece of
- 0:58news from the last week is Chelsea winning the Club World
- 1:03Cup, beating PSG. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:05Big news. It was pretty, it was pretty
- 1:07impressive. And I.
- 1:08I'm not going to lie to you, it's pretty impressive.
- 1:10Didn't expect it and like the tactics and the rescue's tactics
- 1:14actually worked out. Was it that or was it that PSG
- 1:17just didn't have patio? I don't know.
- 1:19You can't. You can't put it down.
- 1:20That I know. I know, but but I swear.
- 1:23Huh. That's the excuse I keep hearing
- 1:24from every boy. Whatever.
- 1:25It's a made-up tournament. It's stupid.
- 1:27No one cares. It's not.
- 1:27It's not a minute, it's going. To be a huge tournament, this
- 1:31was the first time it happened and it's going to be huge.
- 1:33I do think it's going to be huge and it's going to be, I know
- 1:35that the fact that they're going to wear that stupid patch for
- 1:37four years. Champions of the world four
- 1:39years. That's pretty awesome.
- 1:42And let's give credit to our friend Derek, who sucks his
- 1:44fantasy. This guy has no idea what he's
- 1:46doing, but he called that Chelsea was going to surprise
- 1:49people. They they were going to win.
- 1:51Yeah, you could be right every once in a while, I guess.
- 1:54Broken clocks, right twice a day.
- 1:55We're waiting for Ezel to be right.
- 1:57You know, what I will say is like, you know, I've obviously
- 1:59I've been a Chelsea friend for, for a long time and like, you
- 2:01know, winning 2 Champions League, both of which were like,
- 2:04we did not really deserve to win.
- 2:05We like hung on by the skin of our teeth and like scored a goal
- 2:08and defended winning a final. And this way was such an
- 2:12enjoyable experience. You know, like, like I've seen
- 2:15winning the Champions League the first time.
- 2:17Unbelievable. I'm amazing.
- 2:18Such a shock. Like this was like so much fun.
- 2:22So like actually like really play well and that kind of
- 2:25dominated team. That's the way you were the
- 2:27underdog. Like it was so cool.
- 2:29Such close fans. It was good man.
- 2:32Like like I said, Chelsea played really well.
- 2:33Palmer just did whatever he wanted.
- 2:35He actually he shows up in finals.
- 2:38Tico, what were you saying? Tico just gave me a little bit
- 2:42of a tidbit on his draft strategy.
- 2:46Say it again. So I have Cole, Cole Palmer
- 2:48going number one overall. If I have the first number all
- 2:51pick, I'm going with Cole Palmer for a couple of reasons.
- 2:54The past I think how this is his. 3rd year.
- 2:58Yeah, third year. So with soccer, the numbers have
- 3:01been pretty similar, and that's what Cole Palmer falling off
- 3:04last year. On top of that, Arson's going to
- 3:07get more weapons. So I don't think soccer's going
- 3:09to be the machine that was playing every single game, every
- 3:11single minute. And also to me, whenever it's
- 3:13kind of close to two players that I want to draft the
- 3:16between, you know, it's essentially coin flip.
- 3:18I'll draft the player I enjoy watching more.
- 3:21Yeah, I like that. But the only thing I disagree, I
- 3:24don't think soccer is not going to play less.
- 3:26Let's let's be honest here. I mean, I think that's partially
- 3:29why they brought in no any matter if I can, right.
- 3:31So they take a little bit of the load off of soccer.
- 3:33Maybe, but I don't. It's soccer.
- 3:37He's been single. Play a lot like I don't think, I
- 3:40don't think it's like, yeah, but I think I think Titos point like
- 3:43maybe he comes off in the 80th minute some games.
- 3:46Maybe, you know, short weeks he doesn't play because let's be
- 3:49honest, him being hurt Will took.
- 3:51It was huge for them. It was a huge blow.
- 3:54And with the depth they have and with also, if you look at all
- 3:57the other teams you know that are going to be competing for
- 3:59the EPL, all of them have a lot of depth and they're going to
- 4:01have a rotation. So if you're going to put Sock
- 4:03out there for 37 games, 36 games playing the whole 90, I don't
- 4:06think that's sustainable, especially with the FA Cup, the
- 4:08Champions League, all of that stuff.
- 4:10Yeah, it's a good point. I hate.
- 4:11I hate like it. I haven't.
- 4:12I have Palmer 2 right now, I think.
- 4:14Enzo, you haven't three, I think maybe.
- 4:17I do, I think I do. I have.
- 4:18I still have solar in there as #2 and I think I have soccer #1
- 4:23so yeah. OK, cool.
- 4:26That was fun. I'm I'm really happy that
- 4:27Chelsea won. That was really exciting.
- 4:28It's been a really fun last 24 hours.
- 4:32Other than that we are officially in silly season.
- 4:34It just seems like the transfers are getting wacky and wild and
- 4:37things are crazy. There were rumors a day that
- 4:40ECKA TK that Newcastle made a bit for ECKA TK in the 80
- 4:43million range, 7080 million range.
- 4:47Wild. I I don't think we're we're
- 4:48trying to wrap our head around like how that team fits
- 4:50together. I don't even know if it really
- 4:54does. There's also rumors that Isaac
- 4:55might be going somewhere potentially Liverpool, which
- 4:58seems a little far fetched, but you never know.
- 5:01I saw some guy talking about how Ekatika he thinks Ekatika could
- 5:04play in a 10. So he played like kind of behind
- 5:07the striker, which is interesting, but.
- 5:11It's interesting. That could actually work.
- 5:13I think I threw that in the chat room that because if you take
- 5:16anyone out of that midfield three, you take out Joe Linton
- 5:20because Bruno G's does what he does and then Tonali, you're not
- 5:25going to take him out as a defensive midfielder.
- 5:26So and that that gives him a little bit more creativity in
- 5:30that midfield. He did have 8 assists last
- 5:33season so he is capable. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
- 5:36a good shot. So it's like Bruno or drawing to
- 5:39is not getting any younger. He's not like, he's like this
- 5:40like, so it makes sense to get a young, exciting player in there.
- 5:44Was he 23? Like a TK?
- 5:46Yeah. Something like that.
- 5:49Yorkers talks, they seem like they're still ongoing.
- 5:51This has been an ongoing thing, but it seems like now there's
- 5:54some real headway being made and it's just a matter of time, it
- 5:56sounds like, for Arsenal. Yeah, it looks like it.
- 6:00Still, like I've always said, I don't, I don't believe until the
- 6:03sign their name on a deadline. You know, things can still go
- 6:06bad shape from here for Arsenal. It wouldn't surprise me.
- 6:09Don't believe until the Fabrizio sings.
- 6:11Exactly and he and he keeps saying here we go soon soon.
- 6:17He said that like 3 times already.
- 6:18So it just lets me further know that they're not near the end
- 6:22yet. Yeah, the other bit of transfer
- 6:25news, Simon and Dingrad to Sunderland, I, I think we all
- 6:28like that as a conceptually I, I'm just struggling with where
- 6:31his ADP is already and his sixth round feels a little, it's just,
- 6:34it's interesting to me. I don't, I think people I, I
- 6:37like, I probably that's he can very likely return that value.
- 6:40But I was just hoping that that would be if you fly under the
- 6:42red a little more, I think people are wise to it.
- 6:44I think it's a good value pick, but even sixth round, just
- 6:47because he he will be the Talisman of that team.
- 6:50You you assume he will be, yeah, but six rounds seems a little
- 6:55bit a little bit too high still because just because of the team
- 6:57he went to. Yeah, I kind of agree.
- 7:02And then the only other little no is just like, I think that
- 7:05the what the drafts Society guys were saying is just as these new
- 7:08players are coming in, there's going to be a little bit of
- 7:10influx of forwards coming through.
- 7:13And so that'll help with the the scarcity of for the forward
- 7:15position. So hopefully that makes drafts a
- 7:18little more balanced. Yeah, you really see it like you
- 7:21saw he's white in TK. It's shocker as comes through
- 7:24and I don't think that's going to be the loss of it.
- 7:25I think, like you said, Liverpool are going to be
- 7:27looking for a striker. I believe Villa will.
- 7:30They go for another striker to go along with Watkins because
- 7:33that's all they got. They got nobody else.
- 7:36Yeah. So.
- 7:38Yeah, I think, I think Villa definitely needs to sign some
- 7:40players if they have any, you know, hopes and visions.
- 7:43Man United needs a striker but they might be getting Nico
- 7:46Jackson's, so we'll keep someone in there.
- 7:47I saw him at Tetta's name floating around for United, too.
- 7:50How? Do you say that guy's name?
- 7:53Flahovich? Isn't he going to?
- 7:54Yeah, I heard that he rejected United.
- 7:56I heard he didn't want to go to United.
- 7:57Yeah, I. Don't think anyone wants to go
- 7:59there right now do. You got any comments?
- 8:01I was trying to think what other team can Nico Jackson go for
- 8:04them to be an upgraded at the striker position and it's sad
- 8:07that it's only like a handful of teams that you.
- 8:08Got. I hope, I hope he goes to United
- 8:10and proves you wrong. You're going to have to.
- 8:11You're going to have to reform him.
- 8:12I just hope that now I hope that happens.
- 8:15He's not proving anyone around Keith it's OK.
- 8:18I hope so too, Keith. I'm right there with you.
- 8:21Let's get into this. So, OK, do you want to say
- 8:23something, Chico? I was going to say we need him
- 8:24to go to Chelsea. It will just be another player
- 8:26that they, I'm sorry, need him to go to Arsenal.
- 8:28So it'd be another player that Chelsea dumps off to Arsenal for
- 8:31like, that's really. Funny, that would be essentially
- 8:33here for the laughs. Yeah, Jackson, this.
- 8:36As long as it goes to a bar Sagan's team, it'd be fine.
- 8:39Oh my God. All right, let's go through
- 8:42this. We're going to start with
- 8:44Arsenal and what I'm going to do is I'm going to share my screen
- 8:47and we can look at their team from an ADP perspective.
- 8:51This might suck for you Enzo on your.
- 8:53It might suck. It might suck for me.
- 8:55You guys can see it. Nope.
- 8:57Oh wait, there we go. It's tiny.
- 9:00So I think the biggest things here, I mean I think the number
- 9:03one talking point is no need joining, which obviously doesn't
- 9:06show up here. So this is kind of defeats the
- 9:07point. But yeah.
- 9:09His I think the biggest issue with Dhoni coming is I think
- 9:14Martinelli downgrades I've. Heard I've, I've initially
- 9:16thought that too, but then you really think about, we know he's
- 9:19played on the left before, but from what I'm hearing, and maybe
- 9:24I'm just, I've listened to too many Arsenal fans, but they
- 9:27don't think that he play, he can play on the left for Arsenal and
- 9:29that Marley holds that spot, which worries.
- 9:32Me but I I just think there's there's creating this level of
- 9:34uncertainty he he played Noni played left like on the left for
- 9:37England. It's not like a thing that he
- 9:39just said he just did for Chelsea because they were short
- 9:42players It was like like it's like it's like a viable position
- 9:45for him. So I don't know, yeah, I think
- 9:48that a downgrade. I I actually think Noni kind of
- 9:50gets downgraded because I think there was a chance for him to
- 9:52really play more on the right at Chelsea, you know, take Pedro
- 9:56natural spot. But now it just feels like now
- 9:58it feels like I think nobody's downgraded and I think
- 10:00Martinelli gets somewhat downgraded, maybe not like total
- 10:03drop off, but just from now. There's uncertainty there, yeah.
- 10:07So Noni's ADP, just pick. I went to Chelsea to check it
- 10:10out. It's 85.
- 10:11Obviously the ADP is kind of inaccurate, but to me,
- 10:14Martinelli being 50, that's very, very high.
- 10:16Even if Tony wasn't there, I think Martinelli, 50, it's kind
- 10:19of. I think, I think he's, I think
- 10:22people have reacted already. I think that Martinelli's like
- 10:24Big 10, you know? It's kind of crazy looking at
- 10:27it. Outside of the top three Saka,
- 10:30Odegar and Rice, Arsenal don't have any lucrative fantasy
- 10:32players, which is kind of weird for a team that's possibly going
- 10:36to fight for the title. Yeah.
- 10:39I mean, I think that you can see that as two ways.
- 10:41Maybe there's some players that are undervalued in this team.
- 10:46Like I look at, I look at maybe some of their defenders and
- 10:49think that they can probably do a little more.
- 10:51And yeah, I, I mean, it is tricky though.
- 10:53I mean, when you look at it like does when in when Yari, does he
- 10:56have any value other than as like a Odegard Saka?
- 11:00If one of them goes down I I think there's almost no value in
- 11:03him. And it's funny because you're
- 11:04you're looking at yeah, don't worry.
- 11:06Unless he goes to Chelsea, then he really loses value.
- 11:10But yeah, I don't think there's any value in Yawari.
- 11:12Trusalter shouldn't even be in there.
- 11:14I think he's going to find a bocci, so they're actually going
- 11:17to be pretty thin. I mean, you have to say that
- 11:20like the Gorkares does come. You think he goes late 1st early
- 11:252nd, right? I think he, I think he goes
- 11:28second. I don't, yeah, I don't think, I
- 11:30don't think he goes fast and I don't think he goes early in the
- 11:33second. I think he goes late, late
- 11:34second, early 3rd. That's how I feel.
- 11:37Just because when he's a new player, he did it in Portugal,
- 11:41new team, unless he gets a really good start, which you
- 11:44know, it's really tough, especially playing in the
- 11:47Premier League. I've said it before, it's a
- 11:49tougher league. He's not going to have as much
- 11:51time as he did in Portugal. So I just don't know if he's
- 11:53going to it's it's a it's a risk would.
- 11:55You rather take Semenyo or yo Chris?
- 11:59Easy semenyo. Semenyo and I'd rather take
- 12:02Ollie Watkins over Yokarez too, so.
- 12:05That's why, yeah, I think that's.
- 12:06Kind of the line, I think that's what we talked about Joe with
- 12:08that episode. I think that's kind of the line
- 12:10for me is like that right around that Ollie Watkins area area.
- 12:14Like why? Why do you think that's wild,
- 12:16Tico? I'm just, I'm curious.
- 12:17I'm not trying to like do a dig. I'm just curious.
- 12:19Like what's wild about that? So to me, you're essentially the
- 12:24player he's going to be replacing his Kai Havarts.
- 12:26When we look at Kai Havarts, the way he started last year, he was
- 12:29off to a great start. Go Chris.
- 12:31You would assume he's better because Havarts in itself is not
- 12:33that great of a player, at least in my opinion.
- 12:35As a finisher, he's a good player.
- 12:37But he's not even finishing OK. So factoring in that he is going
- 12:40to be the striker, he's going to be their main point of attack I
- 12:44would assume. I rather gamble on him then take
- 12:47Watkins, who's to me is also a gamble.
- 12:51Even Semenya, like what? What do we expect Semenya to do?
- 12:54He had eleven goals last year, are we expect him to go 15 to 20
- 12:57goals? Probably close to what we did
- 12:59last year, right? That'd be the best case
- 13:01scenario, yeah. Yeah, which to me for like
- 13:03because right now is at AD PS 12th.
- 13:05To me, that's really not a sexy player to take at 12th.
- 13:08Whereas if you take Golgurus and he does have a breakout year,
- 13:11you're actually getting good value for where you're taking
- 13:13it. Whereas Simenio, his upside is
- 13:15to me it's not bad, I think. For me, it's like the double you
- 13:18know is better than the double you don't know.
- 13:20I, I like, I think with Simenio, it's like, yeah, it's not sexy,
- 13:22but you know what you're getting and you're going to get that
- 13:24like really good baseline With Cocrez, as much as I think he'll
- 13:28probably do fine and like have a solid season.
- 13:30I think there's a lot of things like when I went and looked back
- 13:33at some of the highlights and stuff.
- 13:34And a lot of the way he plays is just, I don't know how conducive
- 13:37it is to the Premier League. And so I think, and I'm not like
- 13:40being like, I'm not like trying to shit on him.
- 13:41I really like don't know. I'm not claiming to know that
- 13:44he's going to be a flop or anything.
- 13:45I just like think that there's potential for him to really
- 13:47struggle or have an adjustment period.
- 13:49And so I'd rather play it safer. But to go, I get your point.
- 13:52Like if like if you're going to like play to win, right?
- 13:55That's kind of your, that's kind of your take, right?
- 13:57Like you're trying, you're playing to win, but.
- 13:59Get drafted, go go home. Buckets.
- 14:00Yeah. Go bigger.
- 14:01Go home. I get it.
- 14:04Odegard. ADP is 25.
- 14:06He's 18 in our rankings. What do we are we are we hot?
- 14:12Are we hotter on Odegard than most?
- 14:13It seems like we are harder on than most people.
- 14:15Do we like that though? When do I have Odegard that I
- 14:20have him around there? I think you might be the lowest
- 14:22of us. You haven't met, you haven't met
- 14:2425, but me and me and Tito have him earlier.
- 14:26So yeah, I'm not too hot. I know to God he's been on a
- 14:29decline and we've with the likes of as he might be going if as he
- 14:35goes, it just really like you, it takes him out of the picture.
- 14:39I know he's the captain and everything, but I think he will.
- 14:42He'll lose some game time. I think that part of the he was
- 14:45on a decline because he got injured.
- 14:46When he came back, soccer was injured.
- 14:48I think, I think that's where his client came from because
- 14:50when when they were both back at the end of last season, he was
- 14:53pretty good. So you know, if you like how the
- 14:56end of the season. So I I I don't want to send, I
- 14:58don't want to claim it as a client, but.
- 15:00I think he also started the season injured, which is kind of
- 15:02hard to get back into the flow of it.
- 15:04Yeah. All right.
- 15:06Are we ready to move on to the next team?
- 15:09Next team, yes. Drop it down baby.
- 15:12Aston Villa and we are talking about a very sparse fantasy
- 15:17asset team, which is surprising to me.
- 15:19I think there's only like 5 or 6 players that even are showing up
- 15:22with ADP. Two of them on the same
- 15:25position. OK, So what, what's to talk
- 15:27about here? So I thought that honestly,
- 15:29like, you know, we don't really talk about Ollie Watkins.
- 15:31I think there's enough there. ADP 20, I think we're a little
- 15:34high on him. But Morgan Rogers, I think we've
- 15:36all kind of feel like it's a little bit could potentially be
- 15:39a chop player just based on his numbers maybe don't quite line
- 15:42up with his like profile. You know, like he's maybe a more
- 15:47popular player than his numbers suggest.
- 15:49The interesting thing to me is that seeing Ian Matson go ahead
- 15:52of Luca Lucas Denier and like, is that surprising to you guys?
- 15:58Well, didn't he start? He started ahead of him near the
- 16:00end of the season, didn't he? Was that?
- 16:02Really. No, no, not really.
- 16:05I mean, it was, it was maybe they were like a little bit of a
- 16:07little bit of a timeshare, but you just think that like another
- 16:11year you you're seeing as another year older is that, I
- 16:13mean, that's the only way I can really look at this so.
- 16:15I think Ian Matson is going to have the year you thought he was
- 16:18going to have last year. You did.
- 16:20So are you high on him? I am high on him, I think he
- 16:23will be the started towards someone had Lucas Denier last
- 16:26last year. Towards the end, I did feel that
- 16:28Matson was getting more of the starts, especially towards them
- 16:32with the Champions League. And I also saw there there's
- 16:34some Transformers of Lucas Dina transferring out.
- 16:36So if that happens, that kind of solidifies obviously Ian Madsen.
- 16:40But last year I picked up Dina off the waivers.
- 16:43This year I might even draft Ian Madsen if I get value because I
- 16:47do believe he will be the starter.
- 16:49What's Mattson's ADP? Mattson's ADP is one O 5 and
- 16:55deniers is like 1:30. Not bad.
- 16:58So I also feel like as as those AD PS, you wouldn't be that
- 17:03bummed about drafting both and like handcuffing that position
- 17:05too. Yeah, you know, like you'd be
- 17:07talking about your 11th pick or 10th, 11th round pick and you're
- 17:10like 13th round pick. You know what I mean?
- 17:13Would you want to handcuff a defender position?
- 17:16I think, I think it's fine if it's like an attacking left back
- 17:19on, I don't know, I don't have an issue with it.
- 17:21So my opinion is on this. You don't have to handcamp both,
- 17:26handicap both of them because I don't think Dina might even get
- 17:29drafted and I think he will be available on the waivers.
- 17:33Plus I do believe that I mentioned this before in
- 17:36previous episodes. I think Villa's trajectory is
- 17:38going downward, so I wouldn't even be surprised if not a lot
- 17:40of their players get drafted and people would want to stay away
- 17:43from their defenders. I mean, yeah, I mean that.
- 17:46Case in point, only six players with an ADP.
- 17:48Yep. All right, next, next team.
- 17:52Let's talk more, Miss. We're just talking about some
- 17:55Meno. We don't really need to talk
- 17:57much about that. I kind of wanted to talk about
- 18:00Tavern and Clivert because we have them swapped in our makings
- 18:06essentially. And I started digging a little
- 18:09bit and Clivert has a better like has like better like
- 18:12numbers of service level. But when you really look, those
- 18:14numbers are so driven by a few huge games.
- 18:17And when you really dig into it, like Clivert or Tavern has like
- 18:21a much better much is a much more consistent player.
- 18:23So I actually went ahead and swapped them in my rankings
- 18:26personally. No, I I agree because we he had
- 18:29those two games where he had a hat trick, you know, three, one
- 18:32of those hat tricks being all penalties.
- 18:34Can he replicate it? I don't know.
- 18:36You know, I think, I think we, I think we might have actually
- 18:38been, you know, swindled into seeing those points and thinking
- 18:42that he was bad in Tavis. But yeah, I think he might be
- 18:45right. I think I might have to switch
- 18:46Tavis and Clive on my rankings too.
- 18:50He only had eight double digit scoring games out of the 29 he
- 18:53started for the whole game and he started two of those games.
- 18:56It was like 44 points and 40 points.
- 18:59So take those out and it he's a frustrating player.
- 19:03He doesn't get the starts all the time and he whenever he
- 19:05does, he doesn't, he doesn't always play the 90 minutes as
- 19:07well. Tavernier to me, it's a little
- 19:10bit more consistent. Totally agree.
- 19:12What, what do you guys think about Evan Nielsen?
- 19:13He's kind of sitting there in that like 60th ADP spot kind of
- 19:18that's when his forwards really start to dry out.
- 19:20I think he's I think there's something interesting there.
- 19:22Do you guys have any kind of, are you guys any sort of like of
- 19:24him or just not your type of player because he is so goal
- 19:27dependent? He's very goal dependent.
- 19:31If he's there and I need a striker, it all depends on where
- 19:34we where we stand, the draft and what you've what positions you
- 19:37already picked up in the seventh round.
- 19:40You're not looking at defenders. You probably look more looking
- 19:42at, you know, debt for your midfield if anything, because
- 19:45you can have more midfielders at that point.
- 19:47But it all depends on what you've drafted in the earlier
- 19:49rounds. I think he's a good forward,
- 19:51three option or forward for depending if you go forward
- 19:55heavy in the top of the draft. But again, he is kind of
- 19:58inconsistent and to meet the seventh round.
- 20:01Keith, I think we talked about this before.
- 20:03That's when I personally like to take chances on players that
- 20:05might have like a breakout year. And Evan Nelson, I think he is
- 20:08what he is at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think he had a
- 20:10pretty solid year when I was with an injury and adjusting the
- 20:13league. So there is room for him to
- 20:14grow. But I, I, I hear, I hear you.
- 20:16What about Trufer, Adrian Trufer we've been talking about like
- 20:19obviously Kirkus leaving, he's the Kirkus replacement going
- 20:22120. I think that's kind of, I think
- 20:24that represents some potential value.
- 20:25That's like that's kind of the your point, because that's a
- 20:27player that could have some pretty good upside.
- 20:30So he's coming from the from the French league.
- 20:36It could be potential over there.
- 20:38I for defenders, I like wing backs instead of the center
- 20:42backs. They generally produce more
- 20:43points. So he's someone that I you could
- 20:46possibly look to gamble on because just the defenders, I go
- 20:51with the tactic of having rotation.
- 20:53So I think he's one of the players that I would possibly
- 20:55look at at the towards the end of the draft.
- 20:58Nice. Let's go to Bradford oi oi.
- 21:01This is kind of a headache team. A lot of question marks are on
- 21:03the team. What's going on do we believe in
- 21:05whista anymore are we are we? I feel like people are kind of
- 21:10cooling a little bit on what he did last year.
- 21:13Like do you do you think he's going to get 15 plus post this
- 21:15season Well. If he's maybe at Brentford,
- 21:17maybe because it'll be the main focus and he's still got Damscot
- 21:20there even though he's he. I think he only had like how
- 21:26many goals and I think he had like 8 assists.
- 21:28I think I might be wrong but his his.
- 21:32Dam's going tennis. Tennis, umm, he can't produce
- 21:37and he can set up, but he's going to have one less target
- 21:41with if. That's assuming Brian and Boombo
- 21:44actually goes to United, which it looks like it's going, but
- 21:47it's another one that's just like Arsenal's Joker is fucking
- 21:50shit which is taking forever to do.
- 21:52Yeah. But whistle if he goes to
- 21:54Tottenham, I believe in him. Yeah, I don't, I don't see a
- 21:56world with both. Like I think they've talked
- 21:58about like there's no world where in Boil and Whistle will
- 22:00leave. So yeah, we'll see what happens
- 22:02there. Another thing I found
- 22:04interesting was Nathan Collins dropping all the way to 65.2.
- 22:07I know Sergei is a huge fan of his.
- 22:09I think he was a top, what, 20 player, maybe even top 15 player
- 22:13last year. Like defender wise or or.
- 22:16I think oh, overall, like I think he was like up there,
- 22:19maybe not top 10, maybe top 20, but he was, he was like AP
- 22:23player last year. What do you do you think that
- 22:26represents value in the six like that?
- 22:28I, I, we like Collins. I, I know he had a good seat,
- 22:31but didn't he have like a couple goals and several assists?
- 22:34Like with a lot. Of assists, but like when he get
- 22:36he had a lot of assists, but even without those assists he
- 22:39started a pretty good year, you know?
- 22:42So, well, he had two goals and three assists, but as the team
- 22:46he had eight clean sheets, which for them is pretty good.
- 22:49What stats are you looking at though, Tikka?
- 22:50For what for you think you got 2425?
- 22:53So he had three official assists, but I think he had a
- 22:56bunch of, he had a few other assists that were like fantasy
- 22:58assists and I'm not sure. I'm looking at off of the fan
- 23:03tracks. Yeah, but like you're looking at
- 23:05the stats tab as opposed to if you go to his the games fantasy.
- 23:09Got it. 123 45767 Yeah. That's a lot.
- 23:16That's a lot. So I, I think that's to me.
- 23:18But I think even in, in the sixth round, I think you're
- 23:22gonna, I think like you're not, you're baked.
- 23:24That's that's baked in that he's not getting 7 assists, you know?
- 23:28And it's the new manager, right? Yeah.
- 23:33It's it's the he's the he was a free kick coach.
- 23:36If I if I if I'm correct, you're correct.
- 23:39So we can only assume he's going to carry on where Thomas Frank
- 23:45left off? Or is he going to bring in his
- 23:48own philosophy? I don't.
- 23:49I have no fucking clue about this guy.
- 23:51So I also like Nathan Collins and I was just going through his
- 23:54game block, something that's kind of surprising and
- 23:57impressive. Not no games with negative
- 23:59points. Really, Yeah.
- 24:01And so you're talking seventh round, I think that's pretty
- 24:04good. I don't know.
- 24:04I think I think he represents value of where he's going, where
- 24:06he's going for an ADP for that, for all the things we've talked
- 24:08about Igor Tiago and never seen him play.
- 24:12No, no, virtually nothing about him.
- 24:14But like I think Brentford just doesn't miss on players.
- 24:18So and they they were really excited about him.
- 24:20They paid a lot of money for him and then he had a bad injury.
- 24:23Do you guys you like trust Brentford?
- 24:24Do you guys feel that way with their with their player section
- 24:27or is it just? I mean, no, I, I drafted him
- 24:30last year, forgot, forgetting that he was injured.
- 24:33I think Kelleher's more interesting than Tiago, probably
- 24:37honest. Kelleher is a late round.
- 24:39What about Coyote? He had a great end to last
- 24:41season going like 9-2 ish. What is he?
- 24:44So what is he actually going in here?
- 24:46Coyote, Oh, he's down to 8. He's dropping down to 8.74 or
- 24:5087, four. It's really starting to end of
- 24:52the season, but it's just a new coach.
- 24:53It's so hard to know with all these players, but that's the
- 24:55whole idea of Brentford, I think.
- 24:57I think in general Brentford, there's just such a feeling of
- 24:59like uncertainty, right? Yeah, and it's like you said, we
- 25:04don't know who's leaving, but you just take out either and
- 25:06Wimble or Whistler on this team. Look at the lineup they have
- 25:08left. Yeah, it's doesn't look good.
- 25:11It's a little different. Yeah.
- 25:12OK. Moving on, Brighton.
- 25:14Yes. I think, you know, we're talking
- 25:17about uncertainty with Brentford as far as like what the team's
- 25:19going to look like and stuff. I think that's certainly Brenton
- 25:21as far as like who's going to play and what the rotation is.
- 25:24Because I think after Matoma and then like maybe you can make the
- 25:27argument that Minta 2 like you know, they're going to get a lot
- 25:32of playing time, but after that it's just anyone's guess what's
- 25:34going to happen. I do think the next three guys
- 25:36are interesting with Rudder, Weafer and Stupeon going ninety,
- 25:39410-6108 ish areas. I think those are interesting
- 25:43guys like for where they're going, for how you know how late
- 25:46they're going. I think I'm willing to kind of
- 25:48spin the wheel with them in those spots.
- 25:52It's all sleep, isn't it? Like you're hoping that they're
- 25:55they're sleeping giants and they can actually get some starts at
- 25:57this Brian scene and actually show up some notes because
- 25:59they've all shown they can put up numbers, but they haven't
- 26:02shown that they can start week in week out.
- 26:04I mean, yeah, I mean, but no one's starting.
- 26:06We can week out for them. So it's not like I'm out of
- 26:08locking on position. It's a matter of rotation, you
- 26:10know, is Welbeck. I think Welbeck's kind of value
- 26:14at 142.6. What do you guys think?
- 26:17Yeah, when be your third striker, Yeah.
- 26:21Yeah, yeah, that's like that's like striker 3.
- 26:23That's like striker 4 territory for a guy who How many goals do
- 26:26you have in the first half of the season?
- 26:28Then you hit a great, like great start to the season you.
- 26:32Know a great start and then just fell off the Cliff, disappeared.
- 26:37The the Cliff of age. Yeah.
- 26:41We're going to skip Burley and just do all the the promoted
- 26:43teams at the end. We're going to go Chelsea.
- 26:47What do you guys think here? I think Maduweke leaving, I
- 26:50think the biggest takeaways is that really boosts Pedro.
- 26:52NATO to me, I think that's a huge boost for him.
- 26:57I think the striker situation is a headache but it's clearly
- 26:59starting to see like Jao, Pedro, it's going to be hard not to see
- 27:03him agreed as the guy right? Yeah, even though when Liam,
- 27:07Liam the lap coming off the bench isn't fucking bad either.
- 27:10He looks so good when he comes on.
- 27:11But yeah, I think Jao Pedro's Stalin guy, it's going to be
- 27:15interesting. For a several, that's the one
- 27:17that I'm kind of it's in the dark.
- 27:20We don't know what's if he's going to start, how many minutes
- 27:22he's going to get in, how he's going to play.
- 27:24Obviously new to the league and it's such a young age as well.
- 27:27But I mean Cole Palmer in the final, he played off the right
- 27:29wing and he he was pretty amazing.
- 27:31So kind of open up more questions.
- 27:33It's going to be interesting to see if he gets playing time or
- 27:35not, but that's the one that I I'll be taking my gamble arounds
- 27:41just because I think the Chelsea offense is going to be electric.
- 27:46Yeah, it seems like it. I think the issue with the in
- 27:48Esteval is to go exactly your point.
- 27:50I think nuts are there. And I also think that the world
- 27:53begins like Paul Palmer plays and I just don't know.
- 27:55And I think that rest is going to kind of really ease him in.
- 27:58And so I don't, I have this a very strong feeling that even if
- 28:01you do draft him, you have to be really patient and not expect
- 28:05much in the first few months even maybe you know, if at all.
- 28:10The other thing that kind of changed my mind on from the Club
- 28:13World Cup is Enzo Fernandez. I didn't have him ranked that
- 28:17high just because I didn't think he could replicate the year he
- 28:19had last year, especially like after he broke up with his wife.
- 28:23But he seemed to still play amazing.
- 28:25So he's someone I kind of, I personally don't like him.
- 28:29So I was just kind of staying away from him.
- 28:31But at this point, like it's undeniable the values he's going
- 28:33to have fantasy wise. Fully, I fully agree with that.
- 28:39Yeah, yeah, I I'm kind of there. I I'm kind of the other one
- 28:43interesting is Cucarella, I think Enzo, you and I have him
- 28:46kind of higher. I think he's going to one O 3.
- 28:48I think we have him in like the 80s really.
- 28:52Do I? Yeah, maybe.
- 28:55Yeah, that's interesting. I kind of it's interesting.
- 28:57So be like in the end of last season he was kind of playing as
- 29:01like that extra attacker that was being released.
- 29:04But all through the Club World Cup he was the extra center
- 29:06back, which I think that's there's not as much value in
- 29:09that. So I also think that's just very
- 29:12much a tactical thing. So I think it very much just
- 29:13depends on like how Rasco wants to set up and who's going to be
- 29:17on the field. But I think it's there's any
- 29:19given any given week, either one can happen.
- 29:22I kind of we talked when we talked with Joe, there's we
- 29:24talked a little bit about like Mala Gusto and his role.
- 29:27And I feel like what ends in the rescue really did the last few
- 29:30games of the tournament was he really figured out how to like
- 29:33how to utilize the best of him. And it's not, it's not inverting
- 29:35him to the center. You know, it's, it's letting him
- 29:37play kind of run down the wing and be that extra talker.
- 29:40So if anything, I think that might hurt Cucarella a little
- 29:42bit. And I I think it'll help Gusto,
- 29:44obviously, but I also think that I don't know if Gusto is going
- 29:47to be doing that every single game too.
- 29:49So. All right.
- 29:50And then let's go ahead. Yeah, but let's talk about
- 29:53another thing that you guys have that you got playing in the
- 29:55cinema field with Reece James. Yeah, like that.
- 30:00That's that's interesting part of the honest from a fantasy
- 30:04standpoint, if he can play in that role a little bit more.
- 30:08Actually, if he gets kept as a defender, which seems like he
- 30:11is, and he plays in that role, it's going to be pretty amazing
- 30:16value until you get injured Week 5.
- 30:21Which is ADP. I said until he gets injured
- 30:24Week 5. I know that's the issue with him
- 30:27even in that life, even in the final looked like he got injured
- 30:30as ADP is at 11108 a hundred 100.8 right now.
- 30:33That's not that's pretty good value part, I feel honest.
- 30:36And you think someone might reach from maybe maybe a round
- 30:38or two earlier? I doubt it.
- 30:40I I mean, if, if he's, if he's there in the 10th and the 11th,
- 30:44maybe I'm interested, but I think the injury thing is just
- 30:46so concerning. Wait.
- 30:48Are you worried about his his hamstrings or?
- 30:51I mean, I was, I he had to get subbed out in that game.
- 30:55Like, you know, he's bare. He's like, you know what I mean?
- 30:58He's fucking hot as fuck though, you know what I mean?
- 31:00He hasn't really played a full season, Keith.
- 31:02In the last round, would you rather take Chris James or and
- 31:04Cuckoo in? The very last round, yes,
- 31:08obviously his James, his James going to the 10th, but I think
- 31:11in the last round and Cuckoo could be kind of sneaky for a
- 31:14pick as like a kind of a meme, kind of a funny thing, but like
- 31:18same with a Gar Nacho. I did a mock draft today where I
- 31:20got Gar Nacho in the very last round and I was like, didn't
- 31:23draft a keeper. I was like, I'll get Gar Nacho
- 31:24and if he goes somewhere where he's valuable, all of a suddenly
- 31:27I have like a top like a like a fifth round asset.
- 31:31And if not, I'll just drop and pick up a keeper.
- 31:33So I think in that same way. And Cuckoo's kind of
- 31:36interesting, you know, kind of like a, like a, like a lottery
- 31:40pick, like a true lottery pick. That's a really that is a
- 31:44beautiful lorry pick you should. Do that, I will.
- 31:47OK, next one, Crystal Palace. What do we have here?
- 31:50Do we believe in how they ended the season, the end of the
- 31:52season so strong? I'm still on the FA Cup, kept a
- 31:55ton of clean sheets at the end there is that.
- 31:57Do we think that's they're going to start like that?
- 31:59I don't. You think there's going to be
- 32:01trouble in Palace Paradise? Yeah, yeah.
- 32:04I think that nothing, that's their side.
- 32:06And then now they've been taken out.
- 32:08Was it they're not in Europa anymore.
- 32:10They got put down a conference. I don't think there there's
- 32:13going to be so much on mostly the team with as they trying to
- 32:15leave. Also like if if as they leaves,
- 32:18what else do they have besides Munyez?
- 32:21Nothing as it leaves. Is he a better asset at Arsenal
- 32:25or is the just being a Talisman, that palace going to mean that
- 32:28he he was going to be a better asset there?
- 32:30You'd be better at Palace. You get more fancy value at
- 32:33Palace. Could be the main man.
- 32:34Yeah, maybe the main man. If he used to go, who steps up?
- 32:37Because all of a sudden I feel like that, that's a pretty big
- 32:39void. Do you think it's just something
- 32:40where no one steps up? Like if anyone steps up it has
- 32:44to be freaking Shmayla Saw right?
- 32:47Because Mattez is going to play out front anyway, but Shmayla
- 32:49Saw could probably be the one that steps up to fill that void.
- 32:53But it's a pretty big fucking boost to fill man, so I don't
- 32:57think so. I think Essay is interesting
- 32:59too. You know names eerily similar to
- 33:01Essay. Maybe they're just hoping for
- 33:03the best there. Maybe.
- 33:09Yeah, maybe. OK, what do you need because you
- 33:12think he can repeat. I mean, I so I didn't I this
- 33:14mocked out there today. It's it's really hard to like
- 33:17swallow taking Munoz in the second.
- 33:20I wouldn't. Would you, would you?
- 33:22Would you take him in the second?
- 33:23I mean, would you like that risk if.
- 33:26I'm later in the second maybe, but like.
- 33:28What's the risk? What'd?
- 33:31You say, well, it's the risk of him actually doing it again.
- 33:35That's the risk. Like is he going to be able to
- 33:37form? He's he had such a great season
- 33:39last season and he did it at Palace, but will he be able to
- 33:44replicate this? He also had a great season the
- 33:46first year he came to Palace Grant.
- 33:48That was middle, the middle of the year transfer, but he
- 33:50averaged 11 points and he started every single game.
- 33:52That's 16 games. So it's not like it was just one
- 33:56year. It's to me it's two years in a
- 33:58row he's been producing. He might not have the goals, but
- 34:03the year before he didn't need to have the goals to produce
- 34:0511.3 points. It's not 2 years a year.
- 34:10I mean he was the 7th highest scoring player last year.
- 34:13It's just not a sexy pick, let's be honest, because you're not I,
- 34:17I don't think you're going to get those like 30 point games,
- 34:2040 point games, obviously, but you're going to get a lot of 10
- 34:24plus point games and a lot of consistency.
- 34:27Which one thing, one thing I have to say about fantasy, I
- 34:30know we don't prioritize defenders, but when you have a
- 34:32defender that you know you can just plug him in, you don't
- 34:34know. It doesn't matter who they're
- 34:35playing, whether it's City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, you
- 34:41could just plug in and not worry about that.
- 34:43I think that's an amazing feeling.
- 34:46I think I hate you. I don't know if I don't know if
- 34:47Man U is in the same category as the other teams you.
- 34:49Yeah, I don't know why I thought.
- 34:50You guys were going to let me slide on that one, yeah.
- 34:53What I'm going to say is I'm I'm curious what players are in and
- 34:58around that mid to late second round.
- 35:02I'll I'll pull it up right now. I'm.
- 35:04Just I'm curious, I'm not trying to say yeah.
- 35:08I think my my thing is that I think in the first round of the
- 35:10second round, you want players that are going to absolutely be
- 35:13able to pop off any given Sunday, you know, and defenders
- 35:18just even though they have that floor, they just don't have that
- 35:21ability to really pop as much as somebody's attacking players.
- 35:25And I think that is maybe why it's just it's a little less
- 35:29sexy. No, no, yeah.
- 35:31I get it, it is less sexy, but I'm just I don't think there's a
- 35:36risk. I think just when he said taking
- 35:38the risk, I don't think taking him there's a risk.
- 35:41Do you are you more inclined to take Muniz if your first pick is
- 35:44riskier? Like if you if you pick up like
- 35:47words, then would you be like, oh, Muniz gives me a better
- 35:52baseline if words just maybe isn't able to adjust as quickly.
- 35:55So I have this like really strong floor with my second
- 35:59pick. It's possible, but I think I
- 36:01would just double down on the same position.
- 36:04Yeah, OK. Yeah, I think that's the other
- 36:06issue. The other issue, you're an
- 36:07Indian more is just a positional thing because then all then all
- 36:10of a sudden I feel like you're spending the rest of draft kind
- 36:11of catching up to getting elite midfielder in the leap forwards
- 36:15if you drop the offender so early.
- 36:17Yeah. But yeah, those are the
- 36:18concerns. Anything else Palace related
- 36:21before we move on? They got a new defender from I
- 36:24was Croatian guy Borna Sosa. I think he's a center back.
- 36:27Do we care? Looks like Sosa cool, what's
- 36:32that? I just think of like just those
- 36:34like Croatian defenders, just big and stalking.
- 36:37They're just going to get a shit load of clearances.
- 36:40Like a Milinkovic vibe from policy.
- 36:43There's not Croatian. Pretty much, yeah.
- 36:44Yeah. From a.
- 36:45Funny defender I'm interested in is Chris Richards funny enough
- 36:49in this team. Yeah, I mean, he's fun.
- 36:52He's a good, he's a really good Fender.
- 36:53He scored a few goals at the over the summer in the Gold Cup
- 36:56too, so. Oh, did he?
- 36:58Oh, I did. I saw that header.
- 37:00That was a nice header. Yeah.
- 37:02All right. Next up, Everton.
- 37:04Gems in here. Yep, some gems for sure.
- 37:07I think McNeil ADP 1716 now we love him, but we love him at
- 37:16that ADP do. That's just me.
- 37:19Yeah, I like him. You still good taking him there?
- 37:21I feel good taking him there just because I have a good
- 37:24understanding of what he will produce for me and under Moyes I
- 37:27think he can only be better. I like him a lot.
- 37:30I I also think like with Beto and then this new guy Barry,
- 37:34that there's, you know, McNeil loves to drop a ball in on
- 37:37someone's head. So there's something there.
- 37:40Yeah, I'm a I'd be a little. I think there's maybe some other
- 37:43guys that might take at 16 before I take McNeil, But he was
- 37:47the guy that I loved getting in like the third round and
- 37:50thinking that you were getting absolute steal.
- 37:51But I think now it's like words out.
- 37:53It's. It's known.
- 37:54Yeah. What about, OK, what about
- 37:56Tarkas, Tarkowski 58 ADP, 54 now ADP, 55 ADP.
- 38:01What? I think that's good value, that
- 38:04represents good value. I think some of these defenders
- 38:06in like the 4th, 5th around, I think that's, that's there's a
- 38:09lot of value there. Yeah, I agree.
- 38:13Tarkowski is still he's he's like every week, every season he
- 38:16he does it. So that's pretty a no brainer.
- 38:20And does the score goals or get get assists?
- 38:23Maybe one a year and it goes back.
- 38:25Similar with Munoz, same thing. Plug him in, don't worry about
- 38:29it. You know he's going to do what
- 38:30he does. He's going to produce.
- 38:31So he's another defender. Like when you think of it this
- 38:35way, I'd rather get Tarkovsky in the fifth or sixth round than
- 38:38Munoz in the second round. I.
- 38:40Was going to say the same thing to you, I and I and I.
- 38:43The good thing about Munoz is that you could, you're hoping
- 38:45for goals and assists, whereas Tarkowski, you're you're banking
- 38:48on his ghost points. You know what I mean?
- 38:50Yeah, and if he gets clean sheets, it's a great added
- 38:52bonus. Yeah.
- 38:53And you think Moyes is going to have the scene closer to what
- 38:56they have in the season, Yeah, than how it was before he got
- 39:00there. All right.
- 39:01And then I kind of like like this little like Indai Alcaraz,
- 39:05Like Indai going 69, Alcaraz 83rd.
- 39:09I kind of like those guys. And I'm also really surprised
- 39:12Beto is dropping all the way to 99.6 to me because I think
- 39:17there's, I, we, I talked about him.
- 39:18He was one of my like my guy picks or not my guy, but like a
- 39:21deep sleeper pick that I liked or sleeper pick that I liked.
- 39:24But to Chico's point, I think Chico brought up Barry being
- 39:27signed Theano Barry. And I think that if you do get
- 39:30Beto, you really want to just handcuff that until you there's
- 39:33some clarity there as so who's going to be the starter and what
- 39:36that's going to look like? Yeah.
- 39:39Yeah, I, I, I. I'm with the draft, Barry.
- 39:41I'm not eating guys all right now.
- 39:43I'm going Barry over Beto. You're not going to bother
- 39:46trying to get better, just to be safe.
- 39:49So, OK, did you hear that your brother's going to draft him?
- 39:51So draft him before him. Body.
- 39:55I still love the TV show. Be ready to move on to full on.
- 39:57Is there anything else we want to talk about here?
- 40:00Dick Ferry probably one of the best keepers.
- 40:03To pick up, Yeah, if you're going to pick up.
- 40:05I think 10th is too early, so we'll see what happens there
- 40:08You. Can still pick up another
- 40:10goalkeeper on the 14th or 15th or just done so kind of.
- 40:14Surprised about Minkalinka's ADP.
- 40:16It feels fairly high. 8 point 585th, 85th ADP 85.7.
- 40:23Then that's just going from last season.
- 40:25But again, him and Tarkowski in that middle, they could just
- 40:28win. Had his clearances tackled.
- 40:30One they'll get, they'll get their points.
- 40:33All right, I'm next Fulham. I think the biggest question for
- 40:36me, like we know what Iwobi is, we know what he's capable of.
- 40:39Can Robinson, can Anthony Robinson repeat like assist or
- 40:42notoriously hard to replicate because they require like
- 40:44someone else, you know, like you're part, you know you're
- 40:48doing, you're just setting it up.
- 40:49Someone else has to knock it down for you.
- 40:52So. When you're setting it up for
- 40:54Rosie Menace, it's automatic. Love.
- 40:58It how was these ghost points like do we know how what his
- 41:01ghost points were because. Robinson.
- 41:03Yeah, that could be key because I know we got a bunch of
- 41:05assists, but. They're quite good.
- 41:09Is he like eight points? 9 points.
- 41:11I think higher my computer is a little that's really good
- 41:15overheated right now with all these windows open, but let me
- 41:17let me see if I can. And I thought you were doing
- 41:20moneyball and you had him on your team last year.
- 41:23Like you should load this off the top of your head.
- 41:26Yeah, done. All right.
- 41:28OK you guys are going to love this.
- 41:30Points for start 11.9. Ghost points were start 12.2.
- 41:34It's my guy. Wait, what?
- 41:37I don't understand that. It's possible, Yeah.
- 41:40I mean, he didn't start one game.
- 41:42It's my guy. He's gonna start 11.9 He's.
- 41:45Doing a Nine Minds for it right now.
- 41:46You have a. Higher ghost points per start
- 41:48than a points per start. Because he's amazing.
- 41:51His wars let me. See what he did?
- 41:53The one game he didn't start? The one game he didn't start.
- 41:56No, these are both points. These are both per start.
- 41:59It's points per start at 11.9, ghost points per start at 12.2.
- 42:02But I understand. I don't understand how you can
- 42:04have more ghost points per start than you can.
- 42:05Have the formula broken? Have we been lied to this whole
- 42:07time? It's like this.
- 42:09He's just doing this. These are the points you're
- 42:11looking for. With Obi Wan Iwobi and Jedi
- 42:18Robinson, this is a very Star Wars heavy team.
- 42:21Yeah, I do like it. I'm going to have to drop both.
- 42:26His the war of 1.78 is pretty crazy too for Anthony Robinson
- 42:30to get him and potentially like that third or third round, you
- 42:34know? We don't think that Muniz is
- 42:36going to take over that forward start eventually this season.
- 42:40And he started last year and he couldn't breakthrough.
- 42:43Yeah, I think Jimenez is kind of locked in there, but I, I don't
- 42:47think I like what what's when he's being drafted right now,
- 42:50148 probably going to go undrafted.
- 42:53Probably not. He's probably going to be on a
- 42:54waiver sooner rather than later, even if he does get drafted.
- 42:57So I'm I'm not super stressed. I mean, if you're him, if you
- 43:00get Jimenez and you really want to be safe and you have an extra
- 43:02spot late, it's not the end of the world to pick him up just
- 43:04like kind of cover your bases. But I, I, I don't, I don't first
- 43:08foresee that being like him having a chance to start.
- 43:12I think it would it would take around him man, as really not
- 43:15having a good start to the season for who he needs to get a
- 43:17chance. In which case I think you'd see
- 43:18that coming and you could probably pick him up.
- 43:23Anything else Fulham related? Cesson young officials and side
- 43:27of the defender. I don't know what that means
- 43:30though. Like I don't like how many games
- 43:31is he really starting? He was starting into the end of
- 43:34the season, but how much of that was injury related?
- 43:36Maybe, but you think you don't think he starts over.
- 43:39Like try Oaring. Some games, yeah, but I'm not
- 43:44sure if he starts enough. I think with when he had that
- 43:46defender classification you had him on your roster because if he
- 43:48did start it was like a cheat code.
- 43:51But I think I'm not sure if he's going to be starting enough
- 43:52games as with a mid classification to make it worth
- 43:55it. But maybe I agree.
- 44:00Leeds will skip Liverpool. Oh boy.
- 44:06Here we go. Do you guys buy any of that?
- 44:08Like the talk about Sloba slide being the odd one out with words
- 44:11coming in. I've said it, I said.
- 44:13And I got made to the Tico made me feel feel like I was an
- 44:16idiot. I said it.
- 44:17I don't know if I buy it. I think I'm still going to play
- 44:20it. I buy it, you buy it.
- 44:23If Lewis, if Lewis, Luis Diaz stays, I buy it.
- 44:27So you think they're going to play Luis Diaz at the 9?
- 44:30I think they play Luis Diaz at the nine, yeah.
- 44:33And they play Jack Paul on the left, and they play what's as a
- 44:3810. I don't know.
- 44:39I don't know if I buy it. I, I, I think that I think
- 44:42Jackbo probably becomes the I think Jackbo's the odd one out.
- 44:45I think Sloba's has the players. I think Worth plays off the
- 44:47left. Sloba Slight does a lot for that
- 44:50team. Yeah, I can't agree.
- 44:53So because it can go out the way, but I just think that Sloba
- 44:55slide is the one who's going to. Lose.
- 44:57Yeah, yeah. So you he's not you're not
- 45:00dropping in. I mean, where's his his ADP
- 45:02right now? Sloba slides is 57, seven point
- 45:066. I think, I think that's starting
- 45:08to reflect a little bit like that.
- 45:10There's some fear and I think at that price is pretty good
- 45:13because where did you go to last year?
- 45:14Did you go to like the third round?
- 45:16Yeah, yeah, I got him pretty early on.
- 45:19I think you you're willing. I'm sorry, fifth round.
- 45:22Oh, you. Got him 5th I.
- 45:22Got him in the 5th. Yeah.
- 45:24OK. So that's not that bad then, but
- 45:26I feel like you're Jack PO. Jack PO is going in 59.9 in this
- 45:31right now. ADP.
- 45:32And right next to each other. Who would you like?
- 45:34It's a it's a toss up, I guess. I think if I had the choice, I'd
- 45:38go Gakpo. I'd I'd go slow this way.
- 45:40I think Gakpo is way more upside and you know, obviously we saw
- 45:43he can like actually bang it when he's in.
- 45:45But I just think that with words and Diaz there like give the
- 45:48team as it is right now, it's hard for me to not take slow the
- 45:51slide there. What about you, Tiko?
- 45:52Are you the same? I did think Gapco is going to
- 45:54have a better year if especially if he starts with obviously the
- 45:56tragic passing of Diego Jota. So I did I for that.
- 46:02I would take Gapko. And also I sworn out Soba Sly.
- 46:04I had him for two years in a row.
- 46:06Yeah. So I sworn him off.
- 46:08He got benched a little bit and he was kind of inconsistent so.
- 46:12So if you're in the, if you're in the fifth round and it's
- 46:15literally Sloba, Sly or Gapo, you're going to pick up gapo
- 46:18because. There's no one else available,
- 46:19just those two, only two players.
- 46:22Left in the draft. In the fifth round.
- 46:25In the fifth round. Yeah, I'll go, Cody.
- 46:28Yeah. Well, how are we feeling about
- 46:30Frim Pong and Kirk Hess? Are you guys believers that
- 46:34they're going to be superstars and big hits for the team?
- 46:40It's it's Arnie Slot's team. So he's bought these guys
- 46:43knowing what their capabilities are and what they do on those
- 46:45wings. Like is he going to go?
- 46:47Is he going to go wing backs? Is he going to play 3 at the
- 46:50back or, or is he going to let them fly?
- 46:52That's that's what I'm thinking. If he bought them as they are,
- 46:56it's not like he came to this team.
- 46:57They were already there. He bought these two, so he's got
- 47:01to have an attack minded defend like wingers, wingbacks.
- 47:05The one thing I would say is last year with the exception of
- 47:08Trent I unless I'm not remembering correctly, the right
- 47:12back and left back did not produce a lot of points.
- 47:15Robertson had a disappointing point season.
- 47:17Trent Key, if you had him maybe you could comment on this how he
- 47:20was playing, but I feel like anyone else that started instead
- 47:22of Trent was not having those great years.
- 47:25I mean, yeah, I think Trent was slightly underwhelming last
- 47:28year. He ended up like, OK, but the
- 47:30injury didn't help. But even when he did play, he
- 47:32just wasn't bombing down the wing like he did before.
- 47:35But I also think that's might just have been like a little bit
- 47:38tactical. And like when you look at like
- 47:39what City's doing now and what else he's doing now, a lot of it
- 47:41is getting their getting their full backs involved in like
- 47:44different unique ways. And these these purchases to me
- 47:48speak to Arnie Slot wanting to get his full backs involved in
- 47:53new unique ways. I don't know what they are.
- 47:55I don't know what that means exactly, but I kind of look at
- 47:57this like you don't buy Frank Bong and Kirk as and not and to
- 48:02have them sit in the like sit on the halfway line of defend, you
- 48:05know so. Like you look at yeah, and
- 48:09honestly, you look at the 11 players that are lined up there,
- 48:13every single one of them are going to get drafted.
- 48:16I'm I'm probably going to go with I'll take Frank Punk over
- 48:20quickest. Yeah, yeah, only because he
- 48:23plays on the same side as Mosala.
- 48:25Yeah, I think that the thing with Rimpong, I probably, if I
- 48:29do get, if I do go for him, I'd probably want to pick up Connor
- 48:32Bradley really late just to be safe.
- 48:36I don't think you can go wrong with any one of these players
- 48:38part to be honest. Yeah, depending on where you
- 48:40draft him. One thing I would keep an eye
- 48:42out just real quick, Keith gone out there.
- 48:44I know he doesn't really have a lot of value, but he might be
- 48:47leaving in the summer. Yeah, I saw that going to Real
- 48:49Madrid, huh? Yeah.
- 48:52How broken, How broken would it be if Rodrigo came in?
- 48:55It'll be fucking and I don't know how that's going to work
- 48:59then. Then obviously get O gets
- 49:01dropped, obviously. No, if he comes in then probably
- 49:05Diaz is on his way out. Diaz.
- 49:06Is on his way out, one of them. One of them is definitely on
- 49:08their way. Out either Barcelona or Bayern
- 49:10Munich. Yeah, but I think if Rodrigo
- 49:14comes to Liverpool, Rod, does Rodrigo immediately go to the
- 49:16first round, I think. So big.
- 49:18Question. I think I'm dropping him right
- 49:21all of a sudden. You.
- 49:24Oh yeah, I think I would. What's the difference between
- 49:28and I know the different players don't even run.
- 49:29I know the different players, but another player coming in
- 49:32from outside him and Joe cares. And like you think he goes ahead
- 49:38of Joe cares. Yeah, because when I look at the
- 49:41the way that Joe Cares scored a lot of his goals last year, it
- 49:45was running in behind teams, out physically, out muscling
- 49:49defenders. And I don't think Arsenal's
- 49:51getting in positions where he's going to be able to run in
- 49:53behind as much as he did in the Portuguese league.
- 49:57And I also don't think he's going to be able to absolutely
- 49:59he's he's going to bully defenders, but I don't think
- 50:01he's going to bully defenders as effectively in the Premier
- 50:03League as in the Portuguese league.
- 50:05What I think a lot of the skill sets that Rodrigo has are much
- 50:09more transferable A&B playing in in a Liverpool team as opposed
- 50:13to an Arsenal team. It's I think it's just much more
- 50:15conducive to points, you know, So that's why, yeah.
- 50:20And then, yeah. Fring Pong owners Cuff Bradley
- 50:22moving on Man City. Yeah, another headache.
- 50:28There's a lot of headaches this year.
- 50:29It feels like, you know, actually I know the wrong.
- 50:32One right there, Keith, Manchester City's right.
- 50:34There, I got it. My stuff's going slow.
- 50:35It's delayed. Manchester City Marmos to me is
- 50:41the conundrum of all conundrums he's going see.
- 50:43His ADP is 17.9 which like obviously his numbers were good
- 50:50last year but in the second round I'm just so nervous about
- 50:52getting someone that could absolutely not play that much.
- 50:55How do you guys feel? It's, it's, yeah, it's, it's
- 50:59scary, man. The guy could be amazing.
- 51:02But again, we we don't know if he's going to play and how much
- 51:06he's going to play. Like he's very goal dependent
- 51:08also man is he. Yeah, yeah.
- 51:13Yes, yes, I think I'd rather take Phil Fordin, who's ADP's at
- 51:1729th again with all the, you know, questions surrounding him
- 51:22over over my mummush at the second round.
- 51:25So I'm, I'm just so worried about drafting Foden in the
- 51:29third round and I know it's the end of the third round, but just
- 51:32is he going to have a season like 2 years ago or is he going
- 51:34to did it? He's going to have the same
- 51:36thing that happened last year. I think for me, when you look at
- 51:39Foden, you know that he a like Pep trust him enough to like
- 51:44play him for 3025 most games in the season and be like he's been
- 51:49capable of doing it in the past. I think last year was a weird
- 51:51year coming off the EUR. I think he was really sick and
- 51:54he didn't really get better for a long time.
- 51:56So I I project Fulton to do better.
- 51:58I think Marmouche is a wild card.
- 52:00So we have Marmouche at 22 in our aggregate rankings.
- 52:06I have him at 25 and you have at 16 and Antigua you have at 22
- 52:11so. I think I'm going to change mine
- 52:13because after after really looking at it, he is very goal
- 52:16dependent. So I I was a very big fan of
- 52:19that. But it's again, it's just that
- 52:23rotation issue at man at man C Like you look at all their
- 52:28players. The only one I see there is
- 52:29Ellen Holland, who you feel would be the only one to star
- 52:33like we can week out, Roger. Yeah.
- 52:37Roger too. Yeah.
- 52:39Cardio, I know do you have to be sick person to go back-to-back
- 52:42Holland and Marbush it. Would be kind of funny to be
- 52:46that person. No, it would be a very like boom
- 52:48and bust. OK, so I also want to talk about
- 52:50Sabio Jamie Doku. Obviously it's the headache of
- 52:52the century. I it's interesting because when
- 52:56I wrote these notes, their their ADP was much further apart.
- 52:59So even in the last day, their ADP has like shrunk closer
- 53:02together. But to me, I think that the
- 53:05value with that lies in whoever's getting drafted later.
- 53:09So I don't really see that much difference between them.
- 53:11I think Savio Savio had a run in the middle of the season where
- 53:14he was starting a lot more games in Tokyo.
- 53:15But by the end of last season, Jeremy Dougie was starting more
- 53:18games. And then in the Club World Cup,
- 53:19Jeremy, Jeremy Doky played pretty darn well.
- 53:22Can I give you guys some advice or point out on the draft as the
- 53:26defending champion? Fuck, you took him, but you know
- 53:29what I'll give to it. Took him like an hour to mention
- 53:31that. Go on.
- 53:32If let's say if you're in the foreground and you have the
- 53:35back-to-back and both of them are available, Savi and Doku go
- 53:39back-to-back. Savi and Doku.
- 53:41You never experienced that, but you're just saying you think
- 53:43it's worth it. I haven't experienced it, but if
- 53:47I'm in that position where I could go back-to-back or even
- 53:50like let's say if you're a 9th, so there's like one in between,
- 53:52if both of them are available, I'm taking both of them.
- 53:55You're a sick. Individual.
- 53:56Yeah. One of them is doing.
- 53:58That and then I'll have Holland in the first one.
- 54:00So imagine going first for like Holland, Marbley, Savi and Doku.
- 54:05There's a world that's possible. Oh, but that's so nasty.
- 54:08And honestly, no, no, I won't do it.
- 54:10Sorry, no. But if all of them start, that's
- 54:12like 80 points between those four.
- 54:14So just really quick, why Savi and Doku?
- 54:17The thought process behind it. One of them is guaranteed to
- 54:20start and when they start, they produce usually around 15
- 54:24points, give or take. You're guaranteed that at any
- 54:27moment. And also imagine like on weeks
- 54:29where both of them started, which has happened now, if I
- 54:32remember karate, when both of them spot start, both of them
- 54:34don't have like this amazing numbers.
- 54:36But again, it was Savio's first year.
- 54:38It's going to be Doku's third. I that is something that I would
- 54:41do and that's something as a defending champion look banner.
- 54:45I would highly recommend. You know, you know, the good
- 54:48thing is about doing this on my phone.
- 54:49I can't fucking see that shit. It's fucking beautiful.
- 54:53Tiga, I think that's interesting.
- 54:55I think that's interesting. I think that I think there are
- 54:57going to be games when there this happened a lot last year.
- 54:59There were games where neither of them started though too.
- 55:01So then then you're like in a, in a, in a tough spot pickle.
- 55:05You're going. To fucking.
- 55:06Pickle But I like I get what you're saying.
- 55:08Do you think Ryan Shirkey is representing value where he's
- 55:11going at 55? So I think that that that sounds
- 55:16all of a sudden interesting to me.
- 55:17You. You.
- 55:18Sound like a trap? He wasn't selling a child at 55.
- 55:21If he was going in like the in the 30s, I think he'd be a
- 55:24child. But for some reason he the
- 55:27expectations really, really temporary.
- 55:28And especially when like you saw where Savio was going last year,
- 55:31Savio I got I got Savio in like the 13th round last year.
- 55:35Yeah, you know what I mean? And like and like the value he
- 55:37returned. And so I like like look at
- 55:39Shirky and could think that potentially to have that type of
- 55:42return from a guy going, you know, in the sixth round is
- 55:46interesting. Well.
- 55:48And their midst of clusterfuckite.
- 55:49And when you look at the ADPI think Bernardo Silva has value
- 55:53as well. He's going at 92nd.
- 55:55Wow. Yeah, but the upside's so cops,
- 55:57you know? I think with Shirky, the upside
- 55:59is like, really? Yeah, my child.
- 56:02Is not like sexy sexy? Yeah, but if you go back-to-back
- 56:05savvy Odoku, you did. After getting.
- 56:11Home. I'm just drafting Mad City.
- 56:15I think, I think we all agree vardial as a chop at 66, I think
- 56:20that I'm a little nervous about that one.
- 56:22But on the flip side, I think at Nori and Nunez are both very
- 56:26exciting. I think Nunez, especially where
- 56:27he's going in drafts, which is what 137, represents huge
- 56:34potential. Do we have any value on Oscar
- 56:38Bob? I knew you were going to fucking
- 56:39say that as soon as I. Was like Oscar Bob.
- 56:41I want Oscar. Bob, me too, but.
- 56:43I also think with with the Breiner gone, and I mean Silva,
- 56:47like is Gundolin still there? He's still on the team, I guess.
- 56:51So he's, I think he's. He has one leg out.
- 56:53Yeah, I think, I mean Bernard Silva's like, I think Bernard
- 56:56Silva's not going to get that much playing time.
- 56:57I could see Oscar Bob, a healthy Oscar Bob, getting playing time
- 56:59because remember, he started, he was looking good before that
- 57:01injury last year. Yeah, he was.
- 57:05Your Rangers interesting to me, what do you guys think?
- 57:07He scored? He scored like 10 goals for
- 57:10Milan last year. Solid amount for what he does.
- 57:13Depends on where he gets played in that midfield.
- 57:15Good dribble numbers. I don't know.
- 57:18I think, I think, I think it's interesting.
- 57:19I just where is he going in draft 7075.4?
- 57:23I think there's something there. There's someone there.
- 57:26Are you going to drop John Stones again this year, Keith?
- 57:29I think, I think I'm all stoned out.
- 57:32Are you all? I think, I think, yeah, I think
- 57:35there's there's just no more nothing, no more juice left in
- 57:38that tank, all. Right, let's move on to the
- 57:41next. This is a trap team.
- 57:42Not even trap players, Trap team.
- 57:46I think the upside of Manchester United is they can't get any
- 57:49worse, right? We said that.
- 57:51We said they lost you too. They can't get worse than 15.
- 57:56Can't get worse than 15. We're a finalist.
- 58:01Yes. Finalists.
- 58:03Yes. OK, Diallo is a big question
- 58:05mark to me depending on how he fits in the team.
- 58:08I think like we'll get a better sense in pre season and we'll
- 58:10get a better sense when if and when in Bueno gets there.
- 58:13But like his ADP is alarming to me for for like how much unknown
- 58:20there is, you know? Yeah, it's quite amazing.
- 58:24They have three players in the top 20 and then their next best
- 58:27player isn't till 144 in ADP. Harris McGuire Disrespect.
- 58:35I kind of agree. I think that isn't hey McGuire
- 58:38disrespect for sure. Where's his AVP?
- 58:41153. That's a little bit
- 58:43disrespectful. I'll give, I'll give him that
- 58:45Mister fucking slap head. We'll get you a bunch of
- 58:48headers. In the non goal if if Garnacho
- 58:54isn't moved by the time we draft, would you guys draft him
- 59:00in the hopes he goes to Premier League team?
- 59:04Yeah, so I did that today in a mock where I dropped him and
- 59:06literally in the last round and I think I said this, I was like,
- 59:08well, if you know, if he doesn't go to a Premier League team,
- 59:11it's like no sort of my back. I drop him and then I pick up a
- 59:14keeper. And if he does, then I have to I
- 59:16drop someone else. And all of a sudden I have a guy
- 59:18who like if Gar, if you're telling me Gar Nachos at like
- 59:23Chelsea, you're at, I don't know where else he's even rumored to
- 59:26go, like West Ham even or something somewhere random even.
- 59:29Like I would be like, cool, that's like a fifth round pick.
- 59:32What? About Brentford.
- 59:36Yeah, I don't think you'd ever go to Brentford for wage
- 59:39reasons, but yeah, totally. Well, he's only, he's only like
- 59:43a fit. You'd be like you'd be.
- 59:44He's only on. He's only owned 50 bags.
- 59:48Yeah, yeah, I ain't that much good.
- 59:50I mean, if they loan them out, you know, Manchester United
- 59:53loves playing, paying salary for players they don't have, yeah.
- 59:56But not sure, doesn't get paid much.
- 59:57He's actually one of the cheaper players.
- 59:59Yeah, and I think you left this note mount a sneaky Lottio pick
- 1:00:03or did I? I might have said that I I kind
- 1:00:05of think that's funny. I think that's kind of
- 1:00:07interesting, like really sneaky Mason mount late round.
- 1:00:11But again, like just so you're going to drop him if he doesn't
- 1:00:13start, you know? You know what, what, what would
- 1:00:16I think of what round is? What was his ADP?
- 1:00:19It's like 190. It's like not even drafted.
- 1:00:22Oh, OK. Yeah.
- 1:00:23Yeah, it's not. Yeah.
- 1:00:24So a few players that have that are not ranked that I think
- 1:00:29might have some value for United, Luke Shaw and Kobe
- 1:00:33Mayno. Kobe, mayno, I agree with you,
- 1:00:35but Luke Shaw, no. He's to me he's very similar to
- 1:00:40Reese James, where if he's healthy, he has value.
- 1:00:42There's too many question marks mate.
- 1:00:44I literally want question mark. I think my issue is, is, is
- 1:00:48about the fact that he didn't seem to really have have the
- 1:00:51trust of Emirate last year. Like he made some, he played
- 1:00:55some games. A lot of it had to do with the
- 1:00:56fact that like there was an injury crisis going on and.
- 1:00:59There was no fucking choice other.
- 1:01:00Than that I don't get the sense that he's first choice there
- 1:01:02anymore or not right now. He's a reluctant second choice.
- 1:01:06That's what he. Is anything else, anything else
- 1:01:09United? No, but Kyle, you just do your
- 1:01:12job and just draft all of them. Newcastle.
- 1:01:14I went cool, yeah. All right, what do you think
- 1:01:16here? How will you ever fact
- 1:01:18Newcastle? That was absolutely rough on
- 1:01:20them last year. Yeah, there's some really good
- 1:01:24players in there, perfume on us, some really good fancy players.
- 1:01:29Harvey Bonds. I think Liveramento could have a
- 1:01:32big year trip. You're going that late.
- 1:01:37Could be some value. I like, I think trip your latest
- 1:01:40value. I think both Jacob Murphy and
- 1:01:43Harvey Barnes, like Harvey Barnes is where's ADP is
- 1:01:46actually feels better than me. But like Jacob Murphy in the
- 1:01:50sixth or seventh round, still feels a little wishy washy to me
- 1:01:55with Elena there now. Yeah, I, I, I still feel like
- 1:01:59take him in the sixth or seventh round, though, with the upside
- 1:02:03that he might just start off the season and then try sell high
- 1:02:08once Elanger starts getting in the groove.
- 1:02:10Maybe that's the only thing I could think of with Murphy.
- 1:02:13I, I like Murphy. I'm I'm a big fan so.
- 1:02:16But Elanger's there now, so that can only tell you one thing.
- 1:02:21I just like him for that reason because Enzo's a big fan.
- 1:02:25Lovely. Yeah, no, I know Enzo was high
- 1:02:27on him. He was saying like second round
- 1:02:28he's going to drop him the last year, but.
- 1:02:30Remember that last year? Yeah.
- 1:02:32Yeah, I agree. No, to me, Murphy and Laga has
- 1:02:35more value, honestly. I'll I'll Ryder take Bruno over
- 1:02:38Jacob Murphy. Yeah, I think the Bruno
- 1:02:43obviously from two years ago when everyone else was hurt and
- 1:02:45he had this amazing year, but he's not going to replicate
- 1:02:47that. But he's someone else, you know,
- 1:02:49he's going to play every game. He's going to play 90 minutes
- 1:02:51and just plug and play. I think Newcastle United
- 1:02:54defenders are an interesting play too.
- 1:02:55I think they're a little bit undervalued.
- 1:02:57You look like Dan Burn. You look at Lewis Hall, who I
- 1:03:00really like 6 round, OK, but Dan, Fabian Cher, Fabian Cher
- 1:03:05has another one. He always seems he tends to come
- 1:03:07up with a lot of goals. Fabian Cher, where's he going?
- 1:03:09And. Bob Bobman's back, too, isn't.
- 1:03:11He one, yeah. And then I think Enza's shout
- 1:03:14out trip here, I just think there's some, there's going to
- 1:03:16be some value there. If you can find it.
- 1:03:19You might need to do something, you know, You might be patient,
- 1:03:21you know. Nick Pop too.
- 1:03:23He's always one of the top fantasy goalkeepers.
- 1:03:28That's how he keeps his star and lineup.
- 1:03:30That's how he keeps his role. Yeah, why rumors of Trafford
- 1:03:34going or something? That's what you're talking
- 1:03:35about. You're hinting at Enza.
- 1:03:36Correct, correct. All right, Next up, Nottingham
- 1:03:39Forest. Oh, oh shit.
- 1:03:41Show oh shit show load thing. It's going to get there.
- 1:03:49It is. All right, so I'm working at
- 1:03:50wipe will probably will not be on the team and then you're
- 1:03:53looking at Chris Wood Comets in a doorway.
- 1:03:57They're going to have Europe, they're not going to have their
- 1:03:59Talisman attacking player. I will say though that that does
- 1:04:03leave a void and I really like Elliot Anderson because when
- 1:04:05Gibbs White was out, Elliot Anderson tended to play in that
- 1:04:08role and look pretty solid. So I think he represents value,
- 1:04:11especially going at 89.1 like. I think he's a star week in
- 1:04:16week. Out.
- 1:04:16Yeah, I think that only changes. There's some rumors that they
- 1:04:19might be in for Mcatee, who I really like for the city.
- 1:04:22The city. Guy.
- 1:04:23So that could be that would obviously change that.
- 1:04:25And then I think, I think Mcatee probably falls into the 5th, 6th
- 1:04:28round. When that happens, I'll be
- 1:04:30guessing. But yeah, I think, I think, oh,
- 1:04:33go ahead, Enzo. I'm.
- 1:04:35Going to say, I think Olena is good value too.
- 1:04:37He's coming back from injury. He had a great start to the
- 1:04:40season. He was he was a key component
- 1:04:42for 9 and Forest in that defensive line.
- 1:04:45I think Oleano would be a good value.
- 1:04:47Pick and then you're seeing some of these guys like this, this
- 1:04:50Brazilian, Igor Jesus the the Cruz who played at Botafogo,
- 1:04:55he's going to be on the team. Now then they buy a bunch of
- 1:04:57Brazilian players. Yeah, there's another one about
- 1:04:59two. I'm not sure if he's he's
- 1:05:01showing up on here yet, but there's there's a few other
- 1:05:03players that bought they have a good they have a good track
- 1:05:05record out of Brazil too, I think Danilo Murillo.
- 1:05:08So yeah, I will say that I just without Morgan's White and the
- 1:05:12Langa, the team does feel kind of gutted and.
- 1:05:14It's a little bit worrying that Chris Wood is their highest ADP
- 1:05:17player. Yeah, it's actually the only
- 1:05:19one. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:21But I think at the end of the day, Nunez has shown that he's a
- 1:05:23really good coach and there might be some really interesting
- 1:05:26waiver opportunities with this team.
- 1:05:29I just, I'm not sure if it's draft opportunities.
- 1:05:31Yeah, you know, I agree. OK, next one, Let's power
- 1:05:35through. Or you have something, you have
- 1:05:36something to go. Power for.
- 1:05:37Just something very irrelevant. Igor.
- 1:05:39Jesus. I just school with him because I
- 1:05:41haven't. I hadn't heard of him before.
- 1:05:42But his celebration is Dragon Ball Z and he just does, which
- 1:05:47that's all it takes for me to be sold on a player.
- 1:05:51So you're all in. Yeah, I don't even like Dragon
- 1:05:53Ball Z, but. So wait, did you like, did you
- 1:05:56like Almaro when he was on freaking Newcastle too?
- 1:05:59Because he did the fusion fucking celebration.
- 1:06:02I I I don't know what's fusion celebration means.
- 1:06:04I'm not a Dragon Ball Z fan but just just looks cool.
- 1:06:08OK, we're going to move on to hot Tottenham Hotnam Tot spray.
- 1:06:12You're you're Europa champions. Europa champions Tottenham
- 1:06:16Hotspur is our officially draft headache, especially because
- 1:06:20Frank tends to play trusted players, so if you draft wrong
- 1:06:24and you and you pick the guy who isn't one of his favorites, it
- 1:06:27could be catastrophic. I think the interesting things
- 1:06:30here are Son. I feel like everyone's fading on
- 1:06:33Son. He's dropping down because I
- 1:06:34don't think anyone has any faith in him either staying or what
- 1:06:38the situation is. But kudos is rising.
- 1:06:40Kudos is now 36 ADP, which is quite high.
- 1:06:44And then you have Sonkey almost the exact same as well.
- 1:06:47Well, they're, they're going like back-to-back.
- 1:06:50It's kind of crazy they have no one ranked in the top top 2030
- 1:06:54in the for the ADP. Well, I think it's.
- 1:06:56I think it's. Going one what?
- 1:06:58Are you saying then, Zach? I said I only just go and buy
- 1:07:00like the performance of last season.
- 1:07:03Kind of, but I also think the issue is that there's a lot of
- 1:07:05uncertainty as to who's going to play where.
- 1:07:06I like if if you were guaranteed Kulasefsky playing and like
- 1:07:10starting, I think that his ADP goes goes off, you know, I think
- 1:07:14it's ever like, you know, I think it's just there's so much
- 1:07:16like who's going to play where, who's going to do what.
- 1:07:18I am really shocked how high Pedro Poirot's ADP is 41.4
- 1:07:23considering his goes points, considering his just overall
- 1:07:27play last season. I kind of have a little little
- 1:07:30lower personally. Do you think it's because you
- 1:07:33think he was an Ange player and Ange had him playing slow,
- 1:07:36ridiculously high? I think that's the argument
- 1:07:39against him for sure, but. Keith, to kind of piggyback off
- 1:07:43what you said of the players starting, if you draft Tottenham
- 1:07:47players and you get lucky, let's say Madison, who's going at 48,
- 1:07:52if you get in like in the in the third or early 4th and he
- 1:07:55becomes a regular starter, he's going to put up top to round
- 1:07:58value. Same thing with KU says he saw.
- 1:08:01It's one of those things where like you're shooting darts, but
- 1:08:04if you hit one by accident just 'cause you know the new manager
- 1:08:07likes him. I think this could be like very
- 1:08:08enticing players here. I think, I think without a
- 1:08:12doubt, there's going to be a Taunton player of the top 25 at
- 1:08:15the end of the season. Yeah.
- 1:08:16So it's just about. Could you guys?
- 1:08:18Could you get it right? Do you get it right?
- 1:08:19You know. Would you guys rather gamble on
- 1:08:21matters or savi or doku? Savi or Tokyo for me because I
- 1:08:27I, you know that you know that you're getting.
- 1:08:29You know you're what you're getting matters.
- 1:08:30I don't. I don't know what I'm getting
- 1:08:31right now. I'm I'm growing and growing more
- 1:08:35because I was really, I was, I would have said Doku and Savio
- 1:08:38just a week ago, but the the more I saw because I look at
- 1:08:42something all the time. Obviously they could play A4123
- 1:08:46essentially with MGW and and Madison in that double 10 role
- 1:08:52and have AI think we just need to get a defensive fielder and
- 1:08:55it it could be very interesting. Essentially, it's just a 433,
- 1:08:59like you're making it complicated by calling it a
- 1:09:014123, but it's just a 433 with a with a holding midfielder,
- 1:09:04right? And then?
- 1:09:05Whatever you want. Not as an MB GW, you just play
- 1:09:08the the eights. Is that essentially what it is?
- 1:09:09That's like what you're thinking now.
- 1:09:11Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:09:14That could be GC still in the market for a centre back in a
- 1:09:18defensive mid, but I don't know how relevant those will be for
- 1:09:22fantasy. Maybe the centre back, yeah,
- 1:09:25but. I will see.
- 1:09:26We'll see. I think a lot of players drop
- 1:09:29off feel. I don't think Brent Johnson.
- 1:09:31Yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty low on Johnson and
- 1:09:33tell personally. Yeah, Spence might have good
- 1:09:36value. I agree.
- 1:09:38I think Spence has really good value, especially where he's
- 1:09:40going. I think that.
- 1:09:42I think it's just that. Same question though, is it
- 1:09:44going to be Spencer? Is it going to be Destiny doggy?
- 1:09:46And I think that is, is it's like the same issues with this
- 1:09:49whole team as you just don't know who's going to do what.
- 1:09:52I guess we'll, as we see some pieces, we'll have some clarity,
- 1:09:55but it's hard to even know because I remember, I even
- 1:09:58remember last year, like with Ange, or was it 2 years ago,
- 1:10:01like, like it was Pedro Poro and Emerson Royale were the two
- 1:10:04right backs. And I drafted Emerson Royale
- 1:10:06like really late being like, well, maybe if it's not Poro,
- 1:10:09it'll be Emerson Royale. He scored in his very first
- 1:10:11game. Then he literally, he started
- 1:10:13the very first game and scored in it and he just got benched
- 1:10:15and didn't play again. You know what I mean?
- 1:10:17Yeah. So it's hard to know.
- 1:10:19Yeah. All right.
- 1:10:19What's him? Jared Bowen, gotta love him.
- 1:10:22Edwin Bisaka I think is like a sneaky good pick.
- 1:10:24He had a really good season last year and it's just a really,
- 1:10:27really solid defender. And he also contributes on both
- 1:10:29sides. So he has really strong
- 1:10:31defensive numbers and he also has some attacking value as
- 1:10:34well. I kind of like James Ward Prowse
- 1:10:38because if I think by the end of last season, Potter realized
- 1:10:40that he was a pretty good player and he'd kind of brought him
- 1:10:42back from the wilderness and started playing him.
- 1:10:44And I think if he he doesn't need to deliver that much value
- 1:10:47to be worth it at like 120, you know.
- 1:10:50Oh. OK.
- 1:10:51Yeah, just some trial from the fourth round like I did.
- 1:10:55Yes, that definitely that. And then Sergei around a good
- 1:10:59point that I thought was interesting.
- 1:11:00Crisencio Summerall, Somerville injured last year.
- 1:11:04So we didn't really get to see his full potential.
- 1:11:06But I think the idea of curiously being that he might,
- 1:11:09there might, that might be a spot opened up for him and that
- 1:11:1114th pick, that feels pretty good, right?
- 1:11:14It could be, it could be He's very explosive and he didn't
- 1:11:19really get that much of a chance last season.
- 1:11:21I don't think anybody that new players got a chance last
- 1:11:23season, so we'll see. Anyone else you guys want to
- 1:11:26talk about on the team? It's not the most exciting.
- 1:11:28Full Craig. Very underwhelming last year.
- 1:11:31I don't know if anyone really is going to trust.
- 1:11:33Nah, I'm really care much better with the rest of that play.
- 1:11:35It's literally just Bowen and Juan Basaka, who really, you
- 1:11:40know, wet your whistle. That's it.
- 1:11:42Yeah. Oh yeah, So moving on then,
- 1:11:44Wolverhampton is are they going to get relegated?
- 1:11:49They'll be in a relegation bout, we think.
- 1:11:52Man, I think it could be an interesting year for relegation.
- 1:11:55Yeah, it's not a good sign when you're top player is 69.5 on ABP
- 1:12:00Jordan, Trent Larson, He's also not going to have Cunha feeding
- 1:12:04him. So I think that's that's a
- 1:12:06little alarming. I think the whole team
- 1:12:08downgrades without Cunha. I think the two players that
- 1:12:12have the potential to to kind of fill somewhat of the void or
- 1:12:15this is a. Bell Gold.
- 1:12:17Is a bell guard and then what? Muscarra?
- 1:12:19Oh no, sorry, Muntessy. Right.
- 1:12:20That's the other one. Yeah.
- 1:12:22I think Belgard Moon, Tessie might be the two that kind of
- 1:12:25step in to fill that role a little bit.
- 1:12:28Yeah. For Lopez, exciting young
- 1:12:31talent, I think he's a little too young in my mind to like,
- 1:12:35really bank on. But I think in the 14th round,
- 1:12:39maybe you know. We could say there's a couple
- 1:12:42like there's a cold plays you might find some value in, like
- 1:12:45Totti is another one that you can get some late value in, I
- 1:12:48feel. But yeah, like, it's not that
- 1:12:52it's it's scarce. It's so scarce.
- 1:12:56I think the one, the one thing that you need to remember is
- 1:12:58Bruno Lodge had them or no, who was it?
- 1:13:00Who's their coach of it? I forget who was their coach.
- 1:13:02I think had them really strong defensively by the end of the
- 1:13:05year. So I think that ends out of your
- 1:13:07point. I think there might be some
- 1:13:08value there. I think they're kind of, they're
- 1:13:09going to go into this year being like, we're going to make it
- 1:13:12really hard for you to score on us and try and make some wins.
- 1:13:14Yeah. They are also starting a new
- 1:13:17right back. Fabrizio sent the thing out.
- 1:13:21No idea who is, it's a young person.
- 1:13:23But one thing I would say maybe Jose saw their goalkeeper, might
- 1:13:26be the goalkeeper that's the busiest and he gets a lot of
- 1:13:29saves. He has historically produced
- 1:13:31fantasy the last 3-4 years, so that's one goalkeeper could be
- 1:13:35good. Very good point, very good
- 1:13:37point. OK, the promoted sides, I think
- 1:13:40we can just talk briefly about all of them.
- 1:13:43Burnley Edwards was going like 1:30 as of yesterday.
- 1:13:47Trafford 132, Brownhill 138. I think Brownhill is kind of
- 1:13:50interesting. I think he.
- 1:13:52Had to put in eight goals. In the Championship last year,
- 1:13:55so something. There, what did he do two years
- 1:13:58ago? That's like, so it was pretty
- 1:14:01solid, right? He was like.
- 1:14:03Yeah, he was solid two years ago, but did he get those goals?
- 1:14:07I don't. I don't think he had 18, I think
- 1:14:09that's for sure. No, no.
- 1:14:10But did he get? But even if he only got like 6
- 1:14:13or 7, there's still some. Yeah, this thing is some
- 1:14:18operating at Windows 98 speeds right now.
- 1:14:20You need. To do a virus check man games.
- 1:14:23Play goals forces too, not the. Worst.
- 1:14:27Not the worst at. All not the worst.
- 1:14:28Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I I think he's interesting.
- 1:14:31I think it's a matter of if he's going to play and stuff.
- 1:14:33OK, Leads. You know who I'd be really
- 1:14:35interested in on leads if he wasn't on going back to
- 1:14:38Tottenham was Manor Solomon. I, I looked at his numbers from
- 1:14:41last year and he was like quite good for leads.
- 1:14:43And I watched the I, when I watched the playoff games, I
- 1:14:48thought he was like the best player in the pitch, like the
- 1:14:50most, like, the most, like, ready for the Premier League
- 1:14:52player. I like, I like Manor Solomon.
- 1:14:54I liked him when he was playing for Tom and he just didn't work
- 1:14:56out for him. He does a lot, he dribbles hard,
- 1:14:59puts his head down, he can't get past players.
- 1:15:02He's got that low centre of gravity because he's so bloody
- 1:15:04small. But I think that might have been
- 1:15:06his downfall was they just got hustled out.
- 1:15:08If he goes on loan to one of the relegation teams, like goes back
- 1:15:11to Leeds and goes to Sunderland and goes to Burnley, I would
- 1:15:14Batman or Solomon to be an asset.
- 1:15:16Yeah, yeah. He'll be.
- 1:15:20Perot goes 122 no to 131. James, Dan James 136 crazy.
- 1:15:25Dan James is still only like I, still young, young man, you
- 1:15:29know? You're another ex Tolman player
- 1:15:32we boy and then got rid of him. I thought United did that.
- 1:15:38Oh well, I'm thinking of someone else.
- 1:15:39Sorry, I think he's. I think of someone else.
- 1:15:42OK, yeah, what are you going to say to go?
- 1:15:44Nothing. All right, Sunderland, I think
- 1:15:47this is the interesting 1 and dinger ADP61 Talisman player.
- 1:15:50I don't know about that job order, but I'm somewhat
- 1:15:53interested. Somewhat is you're not going to
- 1:15:55complain if you get him and like really lay all annoy you.
- 1:15:59Yeah, I think if you got into the 7th, even maybe the 6th, I
- 1:16:02think the 6th, there's some guys that I kind of little more faith
- 1:16:05in on teams that I think are going to be stronger than
- 1:16:07Sunderland. I'm just going to, I'm honest.
- 1:16:09I'm going to try to stay away from all the the newly promoted
- 1:16:12teams. I know I I keep going back and
- 1:16:15forth, but the last two years are so obvious, right?
- 1:16:18The last two years are so like you do not want any of them.
- 1:16:20Is this year really going to be different?
- 1:16:23I don't know. Because I like, I just I didn't
- 1:16:25have that mock dropped. I did.
- 1:16:26I feel like they were more promoted players than I would
- 1:16:30have thought. They weren't being drafted.
- 1:16:32We've obviously laid around like even and starting in like the
- 1:16:357th even, there's some guys started to go and this feels
- 1:16:38like why risk it? There was a player from two
- 1:16:42years ago when the Ipswich was in the league that had some
- 1:16:45value. Can't remember who it was.
- 1:16:46Ipswich was last year. Wasn't that right there?
- 1:16:48Do you mean Luton? Maybe he's been.
- 1:16:51Luton, Luton Luton Was it the Was it the the wing?
- 1:16:53Striker. Striker, I think.
- 1:16:57The striker, yeah. Or like, yeah, I don't know,
- 1:16:59man. Or like what about that?
- 1:17:00They had that. They had that left back pulse in
- 1:17:03two. They had like a mullet.
- 1:17:05Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's just too risky in
- 1:17:07my opinion. Just picked it.
- 1:17:10Off that early. I mean, push comes to show we
- 1:17:13have FAB. Just put 50 FAB on a player you
- 1:17:15like, you'll be good. Yeah, it's 30 fabric splash.
- 1:17:17That fabric that's going out of business, you can't take it with
- 1:17:20you. What's the thing about FAB?
- 1:17:21Yeah, and so how's your fucking 50, fab?
- 1:17:23Yeah. How much Fab did you have at the
- 1:17:25end of the season and so. I don't think I had that much
- 1:17:27left. I I'd used it but you're.
- 1:17:29Using it like. Putting like 30 FAB on a player
- 1:17:32window, One that said more than like 15 FAB.
- 1:17:34Because I had too much fab. What you want me to fucking do
- 1:17:36take on? That's how, that's how you know
- 1:17:38this NBA players that. Go wrong.
- 1:17:39At least my players actually put up points, the ones I bought,
- 1:17:43unlike someone we know. That banner. 50 fab on someone.
- 1:17:46Wait, why? Why am I kitchen's changed?
- 1:17:48Were you talking? To I was putting it the batter.
- 1:17:54OK, I think we're done with this.
- 1:17:55And I think that's the whole episode because it's been a
- 1:17:57really freaking long one. This has been episode 97 of
- 1:18:01draft offsides. My name is Keith.
- 1:18:03I'm with Tikko Enzo. Follow us at draft offsides
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- 1:18:11We have a little Sergei split up our shorts by each of our our
- 1:18:16like sleepers and do not drafts. And as of now, I think I'm
- 1:18:20winning that little competition as to who's get more value.
- 1:18:23You're definitely winning. I'm definitely winning.
- 1:18:25You're. Definitely winning, yeah.
- 1:18:26So you knew, you were aware, you you were checking it.
- 1:18:30I've I've checked it you're you've got like 200 and
- 1:18:32something and I don't think me and tiko even broke 150.
- 1:18:35Speak for yourself. Sucks the suck guys.
- 1:18:38So I don't, I don't know if you guys saw he loaded three more.
- 1:18:41So from yesterday's it's Keith and then I have 232 Enzo's last
- 1:18:45place. Oh yeah, and today's I have 1/22
- 1:18:49and then Enzo 55 key 44. Wow.
- 1:18:52Oh. Wow, interesting.
- 1:18:56Nice. Well, I think I have the most
- 1:18:59combined views. OK, actually maybe not.
- 1:19:03Maybe Tiko might have the most combined views at all.