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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:05April twelfth of twenty twenty five. Your reader is Alice Stayner,
- 0:11and I will remind you that RADIOI is reading service
- 0:16for those blind with disabilities in holding or reading printed material.
- 0:21So I'll start with the good old front page of
- 0:24the Washington Post and on the far left an article
- 0:28entitled DOJ skirts deadline on status of deportee agency says
- 0:36it needs more time. District Judge now orders daily updates
- 0:41by Steve Thompson, Kate Mettler, and Victoria Bisit.
- 0:47Speaker 2: In the middle.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Is a picture of a sea of truly green grass
- 0:56above what looks like a diamond fortress. It's four corners
- 1:01with triangular shapes at the end of the corner or
- 1:06diamond shapes in a fortress in the middle surrounded by
- 1:10dark green forest and its Brazil's Principeita Beta Royal Fortress.
- 1:18And beyond it is the village populated by descendants of
- 1:23the enslaved Africans who built the fort and you can
- 1:26see a more modern looking village in the background before
- 1:30the forest. In the mountains, scientists X range the Amazon
- 1:36unlock lost human history a colony around in eighteenth century
- 1:43Portuguese fort had vanished, then Lidar came along by Terence
- 1:49McCoy in Brazil. And to the right of that picture
- 1:54and article above the fold is painful divorce for US
- 1:58China economic growth may slow to crawl. Taxes to daunt
- 2:04American consumers and businesses.
- 2:07Speaker 2: By David Lynch below the fold.
- 2:11Speaker 1: On the left, analysis contradicts IDF on Gaza, medics, deaths.
- 2:19Israel cites self defense video audio offer a more disturbing narrative.
- 2:27Speaker 2: The article is by Miriam Berger.
- 2:34Speaker 1: The love Tech Emma gen Pipa Hasim Vyeska, Hara Harb
- 2:42and Abby Chitman, and I will read those more properly
- 2:47when I get to the article. A more combative Catholic
- 2:52as he cites his highlights his faith fans, also exposes
- 2:57fissures within the church Peter Jamison. And there's a picture
- 3:03of the Vice president in jeans and boots with his
- 3:08daughter Mirabelle and son Vivella during a visit to Notre
- 3:13Dame Cathedral in Paris on February twelfth.
- 3:17Speaker 2: And then on the.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Right, Trump's base ready to endure tariff cost by Hannah Knowles.
- 3:26Speaker 2: I'm going to start.
- 3:27Speaker 1: With the Amazon article because it's fascinating and it's non
- 3:30political and something very interesting. Scientists are x raying the Amazon,
- 3:35unlocking a lost human history. And it comes up with
- 3:41a picture of a stone entrance covered by greenery and
- 3:47a small door entering and it's the ruins of the
- 3:51eighteenth century Portuguese village that surrounded the Principe de Beata
- 3:56Royal Forest. The article by Terence McCoy, Raphael Vailila, Julia
- 4:05Ladour and Yuato chen and McCoy, A Rio Dejaneiro Bureau,
- 4:11treef and Valila, a journalist photojournalist, drove to the Brazil
- 4:18Bolivia Bora, then trekked through dense forests to reach the ruins. Ladueu,
- 4:24a graphics reporter, mapped the discoveries and animated a liedar
- 4:30video to illustrate the process from Costa Marque, Brazil. As
- 4:38the storm approached, the men hacked deeper into the forest,
- 4:42searching for clues that might unravel a century old mystery.
- 4:48Speaker 2: We need to go fifty meters.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Ahead, archaeologist Carlos Zimpelnetto said one morning in late January,
- 4:56looking down at his tablet, ignoring the booms of thunder,
- 5:01then a little to the left, and then a little
- 5:04to the right. He put down the tablet. Tablet and
- 5:09mosquitoes in pursuit plunged deeper into the grip of a
- 5:13remote jungle that had once yielded one of the Amazon's
- 5:17most remarkable archaeological discoveries, a vast Portuguese military fortress rising
- 5:25above the Guapeau River. The nineteen thirteen sighting of the fortress,
- 5:32which had been abandoned by Portugal and lost to the forest,
- 5:37bagged a question that historians and archaeologists have struggled to answer,
- 5:43since where was the rest. Contemporaneous maps and historical records
- 5:51showed the eighteenth century Portuguese colony, which at its height
- 5:56sheltered at least one thousand people, had extended far beyond
- 6:00the fortress. There was supposed to have been a city
- 6:04named Lamego, military villas and churches, but the thick vegetation
- 6:10here along Brazil's border with Bolivia, had concealed it all
- 6:15until now. Using a laser technology known as laidar, Zimple
- 6:24and his team have rediscovered the lost Portuguese colony, finding
- 6:29an intricate urban system of canals roads and military fortifications,
- 6:36and the remains of stone structures. The breakthrough, announced in
- 6:41October was the latest example of how LDAR is ushering
- 6:45a new era of discovery in the Amazon.
- 6:49Speaker 2: The laser sensor, which.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Can be mounted on an airplane or drone, have given
- 6:54scientists the equivalent of X ray vision, enabling them to
- 6:59puncture forests dense canopy like never before and revealed the
- 7:04secrets of the world's largest rainforest. The discoveries extend beyond Brazil.
- 7:21Scientists have used light AR in Bolivia to reveal traces
- 7:25of urbanism that has not previously been described in Amazonia.
- 7:30A twenty twenty two Nature article reported including evidence of
- 7:36a seventy foot tall pyramids and an elaborate water management system.
- 7:42Speaker 2: In Ecuador, light I helped locate.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Clusters of monumental platforms, plazas, and streets that revealed Mayan
- 7:49settlements in Mexico and Guatemala, according to a study published
- 7:54last year in Science. The revelations have upended long stirring
- 7:59being theories about the history of the Amazon, where scientists
- 8:03had long contended that the soil wasn't rich enough to
- 8:06support the kind of complex agrarian societies found elsewhere in
- 8:10Latin America. As it turns out, evidence of such development
- 8:16was there all along, scientists simply lacked the tools to
- 8:20see it. This is the moment of our greatest advance
- 8:25and understanding of the forest, said Louise Darado Oliviero e
- 8:30Cruz de agar Argauo, a remote sensing researcher at Brazil's
- 8:36National Institute for Space Research. Simple, following a digital map
- 8:42built from light our imagery, now broke out of the
- 8:45forest through the rain. He looked across the clearing where
- 8:49the city of La Mago once extended. Most of its
- 8:53structures made from clay and palm fronds, had long since disintegrated,
- 8:59but there was the broken foundation of a Portuguese church,
- 9:03with shards of roofing scattered about. Over there, it's a
- 9:08broken ceramic made twelve hundred to two thousand years ago.
- 9:12They'd been forged by members of an advanced indigenous society.
- 9:17Simple said he believes they were also responsible for large
- 9:21circular glyphs in the area, apparent only now through lighter
- 9:27analysis that long predated the Portuguese. The circular glyphs in
- 9:38the area long predated the Portuguese and are a parent
- 9:43now only through the leader analysis. The technology, Simple said
- 9:49hadn't just exposed the lost colony, it was also helping
- 9:53to rewrite the human history of the forest, pulling the
- 9:58tops off the trees. The inscrutability of the Amazon has
- 10:05tormented explorers for centuries, driving many to the brink of
- 10:09madness or to death. Theodore Roosevelt, who traversed the forest
- 10:13depths in the early nineteen hundreds, called it a land
- 10:17of unknown possibilities. To British adventurer Percy Fawcett, who disappeared
- 10:23in Brazil while hunting for a lost city, the forest
- 10:27was the fast great blank space in the world. Lidar,
- 10:34short for light detection and ranging, is increasingly filling in
- 10:40the blank. Invented in the nineteen sixties and first applied
- 10:45in the development of aerospace technologies, lidar measures the distance
- 10:50to an object by emitting a laser, then timing how
- 10:54long it takes to receive the reflection. When attached to
- 10:58a plane or more frequently nowadays are drone, it can
- 11:02collect millions of data points to render an extraordinarily precise
- 11:07topographical image of the landscape below, achieving in weeks what
- 11:13once would have taken a lifetime. Here's how it works,
- 11:18and these are along with pictures that are very difficult
- 11:21to describe. An airplane, a drone with a lighter sensor
- 11:25flies over an area. The sensor measures the distance to
- 11:29an object by shooting a laser, then timing how long
- 11:32it takes to receive the reflection. The sensor emits so
- 11:37many pulses approximately two thousand per square met that some
- 11:42filter through the forest canopy, resulting in rich data sets
- 11:47that researchers call point clouds. Simulated on a computer, the
- 11:54image is multi layered and three dimensional. All scientists have
- 12:00to do to analyze the Amazon forest bed is removed
- 12:03the canopy. They can then see with clarity what's beneath
- 12:09the trees, gaining a vivid glimpse into the past. And
- 12:14this one shows roads and circles. It's like we're lifting
- 12:19up a rug, said Eduardo Nieves, who directs the Museum
- 12:23of Archaeology and ethnis Knowlogy at the University of Saupolo.
- 12:28Speaker 2: We give it a little pull.
- 12:30Speaker 1: And take a peek at what's below. Over the past
- 12:34fifteen years, its advances in technology have lowered cost. Laidar
- 12:38has effectively remade modern archaeology, leading to the discovery of
- 12:43lost cities from Central America to Southeast Asia, and in
- 12:48this remote part of Brazil, where the Portuguese once tried
- 12:52to bring both the Amazon and the Spanish to heel
- 12:56Zimpol found more than he could ever have imagined exploring
- 13:02the labyrinth, and there is a picture of the stones
- 13:07and the ruins of the colonial village near the Principe
- 13:11de Ballera Royal Fortress. Zemple's journey began in the summer
- 13:16of twenty sixteen when he set out on long drive,
- 13:20interested in visiting the Principia da Ba Royal Fortress. As
- 13:25a tourist. He traveled across the heavily deforested state of
- 13:29Rodonia until reaching a preserved patch of jungle at the
- 13:33end of the road. There, rising out of impenetrable greenery,
- 13:39was the decaying castle. Nearby was a village called the Quilombo,
- 13:45populated by the descendants of enslaved Africans. One of its
- 13:50inhabitants was Elvis psoa president of the community association and
- 13:56a local tour god, who told Zimple the story of
- 13:59his people.
- 14:01Speaker 2: In the seventeen hundreds.
- 14:03Speaker 1: As tensions mounted between the Portuguese and Spanish over who
- 14:07we controlled the region, Portugal built its largest colonial fortress
- 14:12to complete the job. He said, thousands of enslaved Africans
- 14:16were shipped by a riverboat from the distant coast. There's
- 14:22a picture of Carlo Simplonettau in front of the small
- 14:27doorway I described, and a picture of Santiago Pasoa, thirty two,
- 14:34had led the Columbo's archaeology efforts since the death of
- 14:38his brother Elvis. We need to preserve these ruins, he says,
- 14:44to show that this is our history here. When the
- 14:48colonial powers finally settled their territorial dispute, the military outpost
- 14:55lost its strategic importance. The Portuguese, undoubtedly spending fortune to
- 15:00maintain the colony, abandoned both the fortress and the slaves
- 15:04who built it. As the Pea chatted, Zimple mentioned that
- 15:09he was a professor of archaeology at the Federal University
- 15:13of Rodonia. This caught the attention of Pasoa, who said
- 15:16there were other structures hidden in the forest, grouped around
- 15:20a peculiar site that locals call the labyrinth. Did the
- 15:25professor want to have a look. Zimple was dubious at first,
- 15:31but out in the forest he came upon sights unlike
- 15:34any he'd witnessed in his career. Line after line of
- 15:37fifteen foot tall stone walls, a solitary doorway arch, the
- 15:42stone foundation of a rectangular structure, and there's a picture
- 15:49of them discovering the pieces and looking at shards. Zimple
- 15:54began exucavating, first with Pasoa, then Pasoa's brother Santiago, after
- 16:00the community leader's death in April of twenty twenty three. Meanwhile,
- 16:05he scrutinized maps sketched by the Portuguese and Spanish in
- 16:08the middle seventeen hundreds. He started to suspect that what
- 16:12he had seen was the lost Portuguese Calmly, but he
- 16:15couldn't be sure, not without lidar. In twenty twenty two,
- 16:20his archaeology colleagues Navieve, received a substantial grant from the
- 16:26National Geographic Society to use the technology to study the forest. Neives,
- 16:32coordinator of an academic consordium called Amazon, revealed, wanted to
- 16:37explore at least fifty sites. Zimple had one place in
- 16:42mind already. The next year, after ten days of flyovers
- 16:47he had his answer. The light oar images almost perfectly
- 16:51matched the maps from the seventeen hundreds we had found it,
- 16:56Zemple said, endangered history. And there is a picture of
- 17:01cattle grazing in the deforested area a few medias from
- 17:05that archaeological site. As soon as the ruins had been uncovered, though,
- 17:11they appeared on the verge of being lost again. The
- 17:15Portuguese settlement, like many remnants of the Amazonian antiquity, is
- 17:19in what's known as the Ark of Deforestation, a band
- 17:23that loops along the south of the rain forest and
- 17:25contains much of its destruction. Last summer, as a historic
- 17:31number of fires burned through the Amazon, blazing with pelaric
- 17:35particular ferocity. In the ark, the forest that buffered the
- 17:39ruins went up in flames. The Columbo villages, surrounded by
- 17:44cattle ranches and soy plantations, believed the fires were lit
- 17:49with criminal intent to clear the land. We never thought
- 17:53the fire would get so close, since Nuciolidea d'apaz Pinheiro,
- 18:00who became the president of the local association after Elvis
- 18:03Pasoa's death. It burned through eighty percent of our forest,
- 18:09and there is a picture of Armida Cayaduro Pasoa sixty two,
- 18:14one of the matriarchs of the Colombo and mother of
- 18:18the late Elvis Pasoa.
- 18:20Speaker 2: And then there's the picture.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Of Nuclecidea da pazban Hiro thirty seven, who became president
- 18:28of the association after Alvis Pasoa's death. Months later, in January,
- 18:34Simple went to meet with the Colombo villages. He spoke
- 18:37with Pasoa's mother, then treked back into the jungle with
- 18:41a sense of urgency. He wanted to see what remained
- 18:44of the ruins, but he also wanted to see what
- 18:47more he could find. With every additional discovery, he could
- 18:51petition the authorities to legally preserve more of the forest
- 18:55as an archaeological site. The damage was immense, back and foliage,
- 19:01stunted regrowth trees than dirt, but not as bad as
- 19:05Simple had feared. He looked down at his tablet and
- 19:09analyzed the light our created map, which showed signs of
- 19:13historical human activity. Straight ahead, he found a shallow ravine
- 19:18that ran in a perfect straight line. Then another short
- 19:21distance away beside one was a large stone edifice. It
- 19:26was covered in mud and overgrowth, but apparently untouched by fire.
- 19:31Zemple took a step back to admire it. This is
- 19:36one of the biggest structures we've.
- 19:38Speaker 2: Seen, he said.
- 19:40Speaker 1: There are so many more hoses out there or out
- 19:43here than we thought. As the mosquito swarmed, Zemple consulted
- 19:49his map once more and disappeared into the forest. But
- 19:55an interesting article. I would like to know more about
- 19:58that the next article. Trump's historic China tariff spread pain
- 20:03through the US and global economies. Tariff costs are already
- 20:08spreading across the United States by David Lynch. President Donald
- 20:15Trump's rapid fire trade war has set in motion a
- 20:18commercial rupture without precedent, which is rippling through the global
- 20:22economy in unpredictable and costly ways. The tripled digit taxes
- 20:27that the President has imposed on Chinese products and China's
- 20:31retaliatory measures are expected to shrink trade between the world's
- 20:36two largest economies from a recent annual peak of nearly
- 20:40seven hundred billion dollars to almost nothing. After more than
- 20:44a quarter century of a love hate relationship, the United
- 20:48States and China on the verge of a commercial divorce.
- 20:52Yet some coveted Chinese products will continue finding their way
- 20:56to US consumers. Via other nations that face law US
- 21:00trade barriers, and even as direct trade shrivels, the US
- 21:05will remain dependent on Chinese components that are inside products
- 21:09made in countries such as Mexico, Thailand, or Vietnam. We're
- 21:15entering a new phase, a broader strategic to coupling between
- 21:19their two economies. It's going to be painful. It's going
- 21:22to hit both economies. It's going to hit the global economy,
- 21:26said Myron Brilliant, a senior counselor a DGA Group of
- 21:30Business advisory firm. Many US importers will be unable to
- 21:35quickly find alternatives for their Chinese suppliers, leaving them little
- 21:40choice but to pay the tariffs. Those extra cost will
- 21:43show up in higher prices for consumers over a road
- 21:46profits bringing in cutting into hiring and growth. Other companies
- 21:51are putting the brakes on operations as tariff pains spreads
- 21:56across the United States. Earlier this week, Kim Bradley, chief
- 22:01operating officer of Highline United, a footwear maker in Dedam, Massachusetts,
- 22:07stopped a twenty foot shipping container full of women's footwear
- 22:11as it was about to be loaded aboard a ship
- 22:14in a Chinese port rather than pay a sixty thousand
- 22:18dollars tariff bill when it arrived in the United States,
- 22:21she returned it to her factory in don Guan, China,
- 22:26with Chinese goods now facing import taxes of one hundred
- 22:29and forty five percent. The projected terraff ex seated the
- 22:33value of the shoes inside the container as roughly ten
- 22:37times what the company normally pays.
- 22:40Speaker 2: It's going to be catastrophic for the industry, she said.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the president is going to let
- 22:46this devastation happen. There is no way that a whole
- 22:50sealer wholesale with modest profit margins like Highland could absorb
- 22:55such a cost. To increase even routine import duties stressed
- 23:00the company's cash flow. US customs officials, for example, automatically
- 23:04deduct import taxes and other fees from Hallan's bank account
- 23:09less than a month after clearing its cargo into the
- 23:11United States. Yet it might be two or three months
- 23:15before Hollan is paid by its customers. Bradley has paused
- 23:20other shipments while hoping for an early trade war resolution.
- 23:24So many companies are canceling their Chinese orders that the
- 23:27shipping line she uses may not operate its next scheduled
- 23:31sailing from the port of Wntaiine on April seventeenth. Like
- 23:36most in her industry, Bradly said she has no choice
- 23:40but to buy from China. In the past, Hallan has
- 23:43experimented with importing some products from Vietnam, but suppliers there
- 23:48require larger minimum motors than the more flexible Chinese producers.
- 23:54While she endorses the President's stated goal of trade fairness,
- 24:00he sees little likelihood that footwear manufacturing could return to
- 24:03the United States, as he intends people in the United
- 24:08States so want to be making shoes, she said, when
- 24:13the company's fate hanging on diplomatic talks that have not
- 24:16yet begun. High On last week laid off two longtime employees,
- 24:22including one who had worked for the company for eleven years.
- 24:26Trump's sky high traffs represent an extinction level event for
- 24:32thousands of small companies, said Stephen Lamar, president of the
- 24:37American Apparel and Footwear Association. The US China slugfest will
- 24:43dent growth in both nations and send shock waves around
- 24:46the globe by year end. The US economy, which began
- 24:51in twenty twenty five, growing at an annual rate of
- 24:55two point four percent, will almost be dead in the water,
- 25:00according to economists from both Goldman Sachs and Oxford Economents.
- 25:05As China factories continued to hum, Chinese goods that would
- 25:10have gone to the US will instead head for Europe
- 25:12and other markets, threatening them with the sort of job
- 25:16killing shock that battered American workers in the first decade
- 25:19of this century. China's retaliation for Trump's tariffs, featuring its
- 25:25own levees of one hundred and twenty five percent, will
- 25:28make itself felt on American farms and businesses. Commercial aircraft
- 25:32make a Boeing has roughly three dozen suppliers in China
- 25:36which produce components for every one of its current models.
- 25:41Soibean and Crone growers are worried about losing Chinese sales
- 25:44after Beijing's announcement Friday that it had raised dibbs tariffs
- 25:48in response to Trump's latest move. Chinese mines dominate global
- 25:54production and processing of exotic rare earth minerals such as
- 25:59gondoli and utrium. Earlier this month, the Chinese government announced
- 26:06new export restrictions on seven categories of medium and heavywere earths.
- 26:13The share price of GE Healthcare Technologies, which uses the
- 26:17Chinese materials. In a contrast, agent for MRIs felt excuse me,
- 26:24fourteen percent in one day following the announcement. Within a
- 26:28month or two, some US companies may run short of
- 26:32magnets needed to produce electric vehicles Elsewhere, consumer electronics companies
- 26:39or other manufacturers that have signed long term contracts with
- 26:43Chinese suppliers will be under the most pressure. China, for
- 26:47the past fifteen years, has exported more laptops, mobile phones,
- 26:51and tablets and all other nations combined.
- 26:54Speaker 2: According to the Rhodium Group, a New.
- 26:57Speaker 1: York based consultancy, US companies could shift their orders to
- 27:02Vietnam in India, but adding production capacity there requires twelve
- 27:07to twenty four months. According to Chris Rogers, head of
- 27:11supply chain research at Standard, in poor global market intelligence,
- 27:16opening new plants in other countries would take even longer.
- 27:20Trump said Wednesday that he wants to reach a deal
- 27:22with China President Jing chimpin to ease tensions. But there's
- 27:29a little trust between the two sides after years of
- 27:34trade friction and fruitless negotiations.
- 27:38Speaker 2: I'm not concerned.
- 27:40Speaker 1: I think President she is a very smart guy, and
- 27:43I think we'll end up making a very good deal,
- 27:46the President told reporters. Rather than a comprehensive agreement Beijing
- 27:51in Washington, she tried to rebuild mutual competence through a
- 27:54series of incremental improvements. According to two business executives who
- 27:59have recently spoken to Chinese officials and spoke on the
- 28:02condition of anonimity to discuss private conversations, both sides have
- 28:08a reason to favor a deal. On Wall Street stocks
- 28:12and bonds lost ground last week, while China's economy is
- 28:15struggling amid a hangover from a property bubble. Yet hard
- 28:20bargaining lies ahead. Any deal that is going to be
- 28:25acceptable to Beijing is going to need to involve a
- 28:29substantial rolling back of penalties tariffs, at least to the
- 28:33status quo ante of January twentieth, said Scott Kennedy, a
- 28:38China specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
- 28:44What their most desirous of is predictability and stability. The
- 28:50US China trade war was likely to push the global
- 28:53economy parishly close to recession. Assuming Trump's ten percent universal
- 28:59terror remains of place and taxes on Chinese goods ultimately
- 29:03settle around sixty percent, The conflict will knock about zero
- 29:08point four percent off global growth. According to Neil sharing Share,
- 29:13chief global economists for Capital Economics in London, The impact
- 29:19could be more profound if the trade wore morphs into
- 29:22a financial battle. In February, the President ordered his cabinet
- 29:27officers to identify ways of preventing US capital from financing
- 29:32Chinese technology companies that aid Chinese military and intelligent industries.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Among the measures that.
- 29:39Speaker 1: The Presidential MOMO proposed evaluating the risks involved in allowing
- 29:45Chinese companies such as Alibi, Baba and Berdu to continue
- 29:50listing their shares on US stock exchanges. A shift from
- 29:55trade to financial conflict would be a material escalation and
- 29:59would force markets to price in the possibility of financial decoupling.
- 30:05Rory Green, chief China economists for Ts Lombard in London,
- 30:10wrote in a research note Friday, the open breach between
- 30:15China and Beijing comes after both nations spent years trying
- 30:18to reduce their mutual dependence. Under She's dual circulation strategy,
- 30:24China has tried to shrink its reliance on foreign inputs.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Likewise, both the Biden and.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Trump administrations have promoted domestic production rather than rely on
- 30:35an adversary like China for critical products such as pharmaceuticals, semiconductors,
- 30:40and rare earths. Severing direct trade links with China, however,
- 30:46does not mean that the US will no longer be
- 30:49vulnerable to Chinese economic coerci Solar panels from Southeast Asia
- 30:55contained silicon wafers made in China, and US automatic indirectly
- 31:00input four times as much Chinese content as they buy directly,
- 31:05according to research presented at a Brookings Institution conference in
- 31:10twenty twenty three, we made a couple, but not the risk,
- 31:15said economicists Brad Setser of the Council on Foreign Relations.
- 31:22You can to eliminate all Chinese content. As attention turns
- 31:28to the president's talk of making an unspecified deal with China,
- 31:33CEOs mourn the apparent end of decades of mutually profit,
- 31:37votable relations. Many companies, including Apple, Tesla, and Starbucks, will
- 31:43remain in China to serve Chinese customers. Others have begun
- 31:47shifting their supply chains to locations that will face lower
- 31:52US trade barriers, no matter what the two leaders managed
- 31:57to work out. Later this year, the long period of
- 32:01US Chinese commercial cooperation has ended, according to many who
- 32:05followed the Transpacific relationship, including Aaron Friedberg, who advised then
- 32:12Vice President Dick Cheney in the years after China joined
- 32:16the global trade system. We are in a total different
- 32:20world and the nature of the economic relationship between the
- 32:25US and China is not going to be what it was,
- 32:30said Friedburg, a Princeton University professor. Tariff's could cost them,
- 32:38They're still standing by Trump. President Donald Trump's tariff roller
- 32:43coaster shows the remarkable faith of his base. And there's
- 32:48a picture of Kathy McConnell guiding her grandson Thomas, who's
- 32:52won up the basement stairs at her home in Philadelphia
- 32:57on Wednesday, and on the sofa are two pillows with
- 33:01President Donald Trump's picture on them, and a blanket across
- 33:07the back of the sofa with different squares of the
- 33:11Pennsylvania and Philadelphia area.
- 33:16Speaker 2: This is Bhanna Knowles.
- 33:18Speaker 1: Kathy McConnell vented abate inflation last fall as she waited
- 33:22in line to attend one of Donald Trump's final rallies
- 33:26in Pennsylvania. Grocery store prices were ridiculous, she said, and
- 33:31she hoped Trump would fix things now. Trump's tariffs threatened
- 33:35to raise prices again. The stock market rebounded somewhat this
- 33:40week on the news that Trump would pause many levies
- 33:43for ninety days, but it's been a wild ride. Mcconnall
- 33:47watched her invested pension money drop by eight percent at
- 33:50one point and wondered if she might have to delay retirement.
- 33:55Speaker 2: She wasn't upset.
- 33:57Speaker 1: If this is what it takes to make other countries
- 34:00treat us fair, and I'm okay with that, the sixty
- 34:04four year old said. Trump's roller coaster terror policy poses
- 34:08one of the starkest tests yet of his ability to
- 34:11defy political gravity, dividing his allies but also showcasing the
- 34:17remarkable faith of his Diehart base. The politician who campaigned
- 34:22on lowering prices spent the past week asking Americans to
- 34:25accept serious economic pain in the hope of re ordering
- 34:29global trade, and many supporters were happy to sacrifice. Even
- 34:34before Trump changed course amid financial panic and put many
- 34:39tariffs on hold. MAGA influences, who once condemned inflation under
- 34:45President Joe Biden, told Americans they could make do with
- 34:49less GOP voters once a rate over the cost of
- 34:54groceries said they are willing to give Trump a long
- 34:57runway to figure things out. The President is still pressing
- 35:02ahead with a ten percent universal tariff and has raised
- 35:06levies on Chinese imports to one hundred and forty five percent.
- 35:10Goldman Sax economists put the chances of a recession at
- 35:13forty five percent Wednesday, even after Trump announced he would
- 35:17pause or lower his country specific tariffs for scores of
- 35:22nations that want to negotiate, but plenty of Trump allies
- 35:27hail the president shift this week as a level ploy
- 35:31to bring nations to the table, sometimes toting Trump's memoir
- 35:35on deal Making, or said they always expected the tariffs
- 35:38to be temporary. Despite the Trump team's mixed messages, this
- 35:44was brilliantly executed textbook art of the deal, declared Bill Ackman,
- 35:51the pro Trump hedge fund billionaire who previously called the
- 35:54tariffs a dire mistake. I think it's art of the
- 35:59deal on his part, and it's working, echoed David Levine,
- 36:04a Republican donor from Texas who recently wrote to Commerce
- 36:08Secretary Howard Lutnik with his concerns the initial thirty two
- 36:13percent tariff Trump announced on Taiwan was a nightmare for Levin,
- 36:17who owns a manufacturing company there. We can't exist with
- 36:22thirty two, Levin said. If it took effect for several months,
- 36:26he might have to stop production. Yet, Levin doesn't hold
- 36:30anything against Trump, who temporarily reduced the tariff to ten percent,
- 36:35and he believes the duties won't last. I think we
- 36:38all have to look at the goal line and the
- 36:40big picture, he said. Trump has championed tariffs throughout his
- 36:45political career as a tool to revive American manufacturing, and
- 36:49he made no secret of his plans during the twenty
- 36:51twenty four campaign. He called for a ten percent baseline
- 36:55tariff on almost all imports, threatened far higher rates in
- 36:59other circumstances, and declared tariff to be the most beautiful
- 37:05word in the dictionary. Some were supporters, reskeptable Trump would
- 37:10go through with the most disruptive proposals of them. Advisers
- 37:15helped scuttle many of Trump's ideas during his first term.
- 37:19When Trump and Nun's planned tariffs on the United states
- 37:22three largest trading partners in November, just after his election,
- 37:27GOP Dona and Medal's magnet Andy Sabin told the Washington Post,
- 37:33he doubted Trump would follow through. I personally don't believe
- 37:38he's going to do all that, Saban said, And I
- 37:41think most people think he's just shooting off his mouth.
- 37:44He's going to be good for business, but he's not
- 37:47going to be extreme. Saban was aghast this month when
- 37:51Trump and Nun's stiff tariffs on almost every country. He'
- 37:55viewsed the whole episode as a mistake, not a feat
- 37:58of negotiation. I think Trump blinked, he said. After Trump
- 38:03announced his ninety day pause. I think he saw the
- 38:06carnage and decided to do what everybody in the country
- 38:09has been telling him. Other Trump supporters are unfazed by
- 38:14the chaos. It's going to go up and down. The
- 38:18slightest thing makes the stock market drop, said Rachel Higgins,
- 38:22of retiree from Pennsylvania. Higgins didn't hesitate last follow when
- 38:28asked why she was writing for Trump. The economy, she said,
- 38:32adding later that in the end of my pocketbook matters.
- 38:38In the end, my pocketbook matters. Her savings took a
- 38:42hit when the stock market dropped this past week, but
- 38:45she's confident the market were recovered by the time she
- 38:47needs to withdraw, Plus, she has family members who work
- 38:52in manufacturing, and she poorts Trump's goal to bring back
- 38:55jobs to the US. It's not just to break my money,
- 39:00she said, It's about the country. Many economists were scepticle
- 39:05that Trump's tariffs would achieve his stated long term goal
- 39:09of bringing manufacturing back to the US. They said that
- 39:13uncertainty around Trump's plans would hobble investment and predicted that
- 39:17some companies would wait things out. The teriff followed also
- 39:22sparked unusual opposition from staunch Trump allies. Elon Musk, the
- 39:26billionaire Trump donut now leading the US Doze services charge
- 39:32to shrink the government, argued against the tariffs, and at
- 39:36one point declared one of the president's economic advisors a moron.
- 39:41Trump's teen argued that the tariffs were necessary to start
- 39:45addressing the United States' long running trade deficit with other countries,
- 39:49even if that brought some hardship. This adjustment may be
- 39:55challenging at times, and in a moment of drastic overd
- 40:00can you change.
- 40:01Speaker 2: I'm confident.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I'm certain that the American people can rise to the
- 40:05challenge as they've done before. Jamison Greer, the US Trade representative,
- 40:11total lawmakers doing a hearing this week. Ken Abramowitz, the
- 40:17pro Trump co founder of the venture capital firm n
- 40:20GN Capital, was listening Monday as the President defended his
- 40:25tariffs at a news conference and said other.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Countries were flocking to negotiate.
- 40:31Speaker 1: Tariffs will make this country very rich, Trump said. Abraham Owitz,
- 40:37seventy four, wasn't thrilled to break the stock market dive.
- 40:41I don't enjoy losing ten percent more than anyone else,
- 40:46he said. Still, he believes in Trump's vision. There's actually
- 40:50two Americas first, he said, referencing one of Trump's slogans,
- 40:56There's an America for a short term and an America
- 41:00first long term. Trump is behaving in favor of American first,
- 41:06long term, he said,