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Inside the Peptide Boom with Las Vegas Entrepreneur David Lindberg | 325 · Hey BigHead: The Vegas Local Podcast

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_04: Julie, we're back once again.
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_03: We are.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_03: Here we are.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_04: Here we are.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_04: Two episodes in one day.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's pretty good for us.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_03: It is pretty good.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_04: I like this.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_04: I like this routine we have.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_03: It only took you 20 million coffees to be ready.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_04: You know, listen, I'm a very busy man doing very busy things.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, question for you, Julie.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_04: Do you know who Abe Frohman is?
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who Abe Frohman is.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_04: Brian, do you know who Abe Frohman is?
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_04: I do not.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_04: I really gotta start working with people who watch more movies.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Abe Ferris Spielers Dale?
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, he is the Sausage King of Chicago.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_04: I should have known that.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_03: Listen, I've seen it, but why would I remember?
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_04: Abe Frohman, the Sausage King of Chicago.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_04: Well, we don't have Abe Fruman on the episode today, but we do have David Lindbergh, who is the peptide king of Las Vegas.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_04: David, welcome to the show, brother.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you for having me.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_04: I appreciate it.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_04: Now, just a little background for everybody that's at home.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_04: I call him Big Dave.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_04: Big Dave and I, we go way back.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_04: Way back to live day clubs, way back to ego, uh late nightclubs, way back to we were Yay high playing together in the streets when we were children.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_03: At ego?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_04: At ego, yes.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_04: So Dave and I, we have a we have a rich history together.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's fair to say.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, and also Dave gave me a very nice gift that I can wear for this episode.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm rocking his shades.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, well now I feel like an asshole.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_04: You should.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_04: I put these I put these shades on earlier when Julie insulted me.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_04: Didn't know they were Dave.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: Insult?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: I just made a face.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_04: There was one hell of a face.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_04: It was not a face like Cole Pleasant, but I I digress.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_04: Uh but Dave, Dave Lindbergh, owner of you're pretty much an entrepreneur.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_04: You're owner of Rejuvenate You, which we're going to touch on, the owner and CEO of Hanobi Research, owner of clinical pro clinic protocols.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_04: Is there anything else that we're missing?
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's about it right now.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's pretty much it for now.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for now.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: I have some things in the works, but that's about it for now.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's already a ton that you're doing.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_04: Tell me about it.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_04: Where do you have your free time to go out and live your best day of life?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: I network.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_04: You too.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_04: You do network.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_04: I love that for you.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_04: Um all right.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: So tell me about rejuvenate you.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_04: What's that all about?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's uh uh HRT hormone replacement uh telehealth company.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um out of Colorado.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um telehealth 50 states.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: We deal, we service all 50 states, use competing service or combining pharmacies to fulfill orders, you know, uh get people's labs, check their hormones, evaluate them, try to optimize them the best they can uh to make them feel like they're in their 20s again, you know, make re bring them back to life, essentially.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we do anything from hormones to GLPs to sexual well-being meds and uh peptides as well.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_04: And then combining that with Hanobi research, what is it explain to me what Hanobi research?
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_04: Because honestly, the research that we did on Hanobi and Clinic Protocols and Rejuvenate You, it it was hard for me to differentiate the three, but hopefully you can name it.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: So right now there's only a few peptides that are FDA approved.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: All the other peptides are considered research use only.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: So three year two years ago, 2023, the government put them in a category two list, mostly peptides.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um that means they weren't safe for human consumption per to say because the FDA was trying to quiet the peptide the game.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because they actually work.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, right?
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody knows big pharma, they know that they're there to mask, not cure.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_04: Damn that big pharma.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: I know, sucks.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, but what people really don't realize is these research use only peptides have a great benefit for for humans if and when they're allowed to be, you know, consumed by humans, technically.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_04: Sure.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_04: And then clinic protocols.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: Clinic protocols is a consulting business I started uh to help people launch a telehealth platform uh for hormone replacement, peptides, anything telehealth related, turnkey turnkey with a compliant aspect of it.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I've seen a lot of people try to create clinics, but doing it the wrong way.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I've also been, pardon my French, fucked over by past partners, past, you know, consultants, things like that.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_00: So what I want to do is, hey, if I love helping people, but I'm like, people are just gonna take it from me.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: I might as well try to monetize it and get the best of both worlds.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_04: How long have you been in the health and wellness game?
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh for the latter part of a decade.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_04: That's great.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_04: So you obviously know your shit.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_04: You've been in around for a while.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_04: For those of you that are just listening and don't have the privilege of seeing what Dave looks like right now, you're a big boy.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_04: You're a big boy.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_04: Smidge.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_04: What do you what do you bench?
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my max was uh about 585.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus Christ.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's like before I tore my peck.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_04: Two and a half of me.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_04: No shit.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's my nightmare.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: It'll never happen.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_00: I made the mistake of going in there too soon after I did another chest workout.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I wasn't hydrated and just pushed my limits.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_04: When was this?
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh January of 2024.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_04: Also, not too long ago.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's healed now, but I just don't flatbench anymore.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_04: So I feel like peptides, we we had Ashley Contorno on, who I believe you've met also.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and we talked a little bit about steroid use and peptides.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I feel like peptides to the general public is relatively new, but to people who are in the industry, it's been around for a while.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_04: Is that right?
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they've been around for years.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people don't realize that insulin is a type of peptide.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_00: What a peptide is is a short amino acid chain that your body naturally produces.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: So what a peptide does is go and make it option or function better, right?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: To lose weight, put on muscle math, uh, brain fog, brain cognitivity, things like that to help get the best result by using your own body's production.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_04: And what are some various forms of peptides?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: Or what are some reasons that somebody would take peptides?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_04: And are they, is there ones that kind of like a jack of all trades, or are they separate?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: So they're separate, right?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's a big GLPs, right?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: The semiglutide, the trispeptide, and now the retitrutide, which it's a GLP1, GLP2, GLP3.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: Those are great for weight loss, controlling um cravings, um, so people don't eat as much as they normally would.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: And also some of the newer ones, the GLP3, RETA, there's studies out there that show it helps with inflammation in the body, PCOS in females, also overall um cholesterol.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, and and they work.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: So they do a very good job.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: I did my labs on being on RETA a few months ago, and those are the best labs I've ever had.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: And also being on a cycle of of testosterone and DECA and some other stuff.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_04: Now, RETA isn't FDA approved yet, right?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: It is not FDA approved yet, but it's in stage three trials through Eli Lilly.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_04: You feel like it's going to?
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_04: It is.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: And they're gonna try to monetize it.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: And they're, you know, of course, the government and the president says they're gonna try to make it affordable for everybody.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I don't technically believe them.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: So there's there's gonna be there's gonna be a shortage and there's always gonna be a need for it.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_04: What does REDA do for you?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_04: REDTA for myself personally, or just just what why would somebody take REDA over any other GLP stuff?
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, right, it's a it's a triple agonist.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: So what it does is, like with um semaglutide and tris, people were not eating at all on them.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, right?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because they were getting the sunken in face, things like that.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: This allows you, Retta allows you to eat, you know, a little bit more, but also preserves your muscle mass while you're doing it.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: The issue is people are losing the muscle mass, bone density, and things like that.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: And there's also other benefits to Retta, like I talked about, like the inflammation, the cholesterol, good for the heart, and also for like PCOS for females.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it's also showing possible, you know, um helping with Alzheimer's as well.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_04: This is like a shot that people take.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a shot once a week.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: People take um it's uh you know, lasts a week, so they do it like every Monday, yeah, and it lasts a week for them.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_04: That's blows my mind that modern science these days can just make.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I feel like the GLPs, again, have just skyrocketed.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_00: They have, and the issue with them is people want people don't want to eat on them, right?
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: So the issue, people are showing that hey, some they're having a bad reaction of semi-glutide, yeah, the sunken in face, the bone density issues is because they weren't eating at all on it, right?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I tell people all the time they should teach you better habits while you're on it.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: You should still eat nutritious meals.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just don't gorge yourself or snack at midnight and you know, or whatever, you know, teach you better eating habits as a person.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_04: Because it really it really should change your lifestyle, not necessarily uh not not necessarily um change your lifestyle for the negative, but change your habits, I guess.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly, for the for the positive, right?
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: So you're creating better habits and you're better outcome in life, long, you know, longevity in life and things like that.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_04: What's the biggest when you you you said you've been on read you've been on radio?
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_04: What's the biggest issue that you've come across with with a while you're on?
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it can cause a little bit of indigestion because it's slowing down the gastric empty in your stomach, which causes the food to sit there longer.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it can cause some indigestion or heartburn.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: So other than that, I think it works amazing.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: I microdose it.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't necessarily use it for the food aspect, I use it for the other health benefits.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_04: Julie, would you ever get on any peptides or anything like that?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_04: You're you're very into health and wellness.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_03: I would, yeah.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_04: What would you uh what would you want it to do for you?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well, okay, so not you would not know this about me, but but I am a dancer.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: Andrew doesn't care about my dance life.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_03: First of all.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um he never asks anything about it.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_04: You never call, you never write anymore.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_03: But with that being said, uh my tendons are fucked, my ligaments are screwed up.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_03: Just really all of my joint issues are insane.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's some good ones for those, like Wolverine stack, BPC, 157, TB500.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: There's also like ARA 290, which is good for uh on the um on the joints and everything else like that, and for pain as well.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what I would need.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: There was a while that I was into hypertrophy, and then that just started screwing with my dance stuff.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_03: What is that?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: What is hyper hypertrophy?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like just growing cross-sectional area of your muscles, making your muscles bigger.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like then their tendons and joints were were not able to support it.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: See, look, this is a very with all the jumping and all the stretching, it just it was too combative.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's like you're trying to run a mile every single day or a marathon.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: Or like if he got up right now and said, I'm gonna do the middle splits, probably wouldn't work.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_04: Challenge accepted, mother.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_04: How dare you! Um when did bodybuilding and getting into shape become a thing for you?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_04: Because I, as far as I've known you for gosh, a year and a half now, is uh you've always been jacked.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_04: And I know Devin's our mutual friend, and that's how you guys met is you guys were just the two biggest dudes at the pool party.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: And and it turns out he's also uh one of my patients.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: He's moved here.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I've always been into in fitness, things like that.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: I played football in high school, played college, played some semi-pro, but I've always on I was always on the bigger side.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: I powerlifted.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Then about 2013, I've always wanted to bodybuild.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: And actually had the means and the financial side to do it.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I started bodybuilding in 2012, 2013, and this pretty much changed my physique round.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_04: Testosterone, uh, you you first tried their testosterone prescription in your early 20s, right?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, mid-I think I was like 24, 25.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so mid testosterone, yes, mid-20s.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_04: For somebody that's again, we we talked about this with Ashley.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, social media is encouraging so much, especially if it's in your algorithm, it's encouraging, you know, peptide use and uh GLPs and you know testosterone usage.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it seems very much more prevalent than it's ever been.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: For somebody that is in their early to mid-20s and they're considering starting testosterone or anything like that, what would you recommend knowing what you know now?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Just knowing this all the benefits and the negative side effects and the positive side effects of it.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot more positive side effects to it, but I think if somebody's in their early 20s and they want to optimize their hormones or testosterone, I would always start them on like a more natural route, like HCG or enclomaphene, which will help net produce your natural endocrine system to produce more testosterone for you.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I always tell them to go that route.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: If that doesn't work, then we can get them on synthetic testosterone.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_04: So when people think of testosterone, they usually think of like steroids or just bodybuilding.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's not necessarily always the case.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's you know, be not as taboo anymore.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: A lot more people are on it than we realize.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it has a lot more health benefits for testosterone, a lot more health benefits than than the negative, right?
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Before everybody's like, oh, it can it can cause heart issues, things like that, cause a stroke.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: But actually, the studies are coming out that it's a lot more beneficial as you get older than not being on it.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_04: You're what, 37, 38, 39 now?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: 40.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_04: 40.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: Look at you.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_04: We're in the 40 group now.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_04: Julie's the only one not in the 40s.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: You feel the oh, shame.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I feel better now at 40 than I did in my early 20s.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: Why?
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, so that's but leads to my next question.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_04: What mistakes early on do you feel like helped shaped what you know now?
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_04: Or what what what mistakes did you make growing up that you wish you didn't?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: We just weren't educated, right?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was we were going off the food, old food pyramid.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, nutrition sucked, you know, we didn't know what we were doing.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I grew up in a small town in Colorado, a farm town.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So it was I don't have access to the things that other people do.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I think now with the internet, social media, and HRT clinics are not as taboo anymore.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually more, you know, mainstream.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And it this there's a lot more information out there, good information about it.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_04: What's your uh what's your diet consist of these days?
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: My diet consists of I honestly try to have a good balance, try to eat clean as much as I can.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: But if I want to go out and spurge and have pizza or burger, I do it.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I don't I don't live in a box anymore like when I bodybuild it.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: I actually feel a lot better now than I did when I was bodybuilding because I don't care.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I put so much pressure on myself that I had to eat six meals a day every three hours, and I had to be this, this, and this.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, as long as I try to have a fine balance now, and I'm honestly bigger and leaner than I was, you know, for years because I I don't stress myself out anymore.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_04: How often do you work out?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: At least five days a week.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_04: How's your what's your rest what's your rest days look like?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: My rest days.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Probably find me at the pool.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's he's going to ego.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a rest day.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_04: Um so you've always been into health and wellness, you've always been into being in shape, being jacked.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_04: What point did you say I want to turn this into a business now?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's really weird.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I was a cop for 15 years in Colorado.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, some things happened there.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: I had to, you know, move to Vegas to start over a new career, worked for MGM uh for the ERT unit, and then worked for the Wynn for a little bit.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: One of my other friends opened up a clinic here in 2020.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: They wound up having some issues with their business partners, and I was the face of it.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: So we had a lot of patients that were mad they didn't get their meds, they paid money.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I wound up, you know, my other friend in Colorado had a clinic that I partnered with, kind of, that had like an independent contracting agreement with them.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I wound up growing so fast that they couldn't sustain me anymore.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I wound up doing a license agreement with them.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Six months into that license agreement.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: I grew so fast that I wound up just buying out of that and had my own clinic.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_04: That's incredible.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it just was it was just a circumstance and it was just right place, right time to be honest.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I got very lucky.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_04: What's the Vegas market like um compared to any anywhere else?
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's it's good, right?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because Vegas is big into fitness, things like that, you know.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: But people know the fitness industry, they don't like to spend money, they're poor.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah because they're spending all their money on shows and food and all this other shit.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's actually good, you know, people want to be healthy in Vegas, right?
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not only the fitness community, it's the CEOs, it's the professionals that want to stay healthy, they're running the 12, 13, 15 hour days, even though they may not get to the gym, but still having these modalities like testosterone and peptides help them sustain that lifestyle they have.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of these people, they they put their what they put inside their body ahead of what they should be doing.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, especially in the in the fitness, a lot of people die young or they have serious.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that was another reason I got into it, right?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because I wanted to educate people, right?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: Biggest thing is we had a lot of bodybuilders die in, you know, 2021, 2020 because they were having heart issues or they're doing stupid things, and they just weren't acknowledging the science or following up with it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: They don't want to go to the doctor.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: So part of my my one of the things when I started the clinic as well is knowledge and education, right?
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Providing people with that that platform to, hey, you don't be afraid to come tell us what you're doing or taking.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: We want to try to help you and give you the best benefits we can and doing it the safe way.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_04: Do you feel like people aren't as forthcoming when it comes to you?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_04: Because I feel like going to if I were to be on X amount of whatever, and I would go to you.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_04: I I feel like to get the best information or to to take the best route with you, I would need to tell you be totally transparent.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like I try to make people comfortable as best as possible.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: I let them say, hey, we do not care.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: We understand you're gonna be on probably X, Y, and Z because of what you're doing.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: Just tell us so when we see the lab results come back, we can decipher it and help you and make you the best version of you we can and you know, try to optimize you and make you healthy.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I had a question.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_03: This is about something going on in Vegas, but just talking about the the dangers of people not being educated properly and and misusing things.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: This upcoming weekend is the inaugural enhanced games.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_03: Are you familiar with this?
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: I've heard of them, yes.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: So going on at at Resorts World.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: Um and you know, it's not required that you're on performance enhancing anything to do it, but it is encouraged.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_03: I am worried about it because I I don't know how people are are handling it or if they're doing it responsibly and and with education behind it.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: What are your thoughts on an event like this?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: I would assume if somebody or an organization is you know advertising for enhanced games like they are, that there's certain protocols, there's certain systems in place to monitor these athletes to make sure they're doing it the safest way possible.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is not a free-for-all, like I'll say bodybuilding, open bodybuilding and the FPB.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, some of the guys have protocols, you know, that's why they're dying at 35 years old and having heart attacks, things like that, because A, they're they're not acknowledging the signs, and two, if there's an organization I I don't know much about, I haven't really looked into it, but I would assume that there's some kind of checks and balances to it to where it doesn't get too far out of control.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_03: I would hope so.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: I think really what freaked me out is I mean, we we know athletes have been competing on steroids for forever, if they can get away with it.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: But then you start reading things which I understand a lot of people take it, but for example, Adderall is one of the things that they said a lot of the athletes are gonna be using, which that in high doses can like affect your heart pretty significantly.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_03: And that freaks me out when you start thinking track and field, which is what's coming up.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it depends on high dosages for that person.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, they definitely think it should be checked and balanced for it.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's great, right?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of people go through camps, let's say boxing or MMA, UFC, and 95% of the time they never make it through camp healthy.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: How good would these fights be if these athletes could take peptides or small dosages of testosterone to help them get through camps?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: This make a regimen, make it make a standard guideline saying you can't get over this, but hey, we want you healthy.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: If they can go to their fights 100%, how better will these fights be?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, a lot of these, not necessarily talking about the ones, the athletes that are in these enhanced, which by the way is this the first year for that?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_04: It is.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like this is the inaugural.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: They were gonna do it in 2024, and then stuff happened, and now here we are.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: Um not not talking about those athletes, but like the average Joe's who s is now getting the algorithm, a social media algorithm, of seeing these people you know have this success with RETA or those other peptides, it's so easy now to, because it's it doesn't seem like it's as regulated as it probably will be in the future.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um, it seems like it's very easy to kind of find what you're looking for in like the gray market or something like that.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: How do you, if if somebody is interested and they're just an average Joe Schmo and they're looking to, how do you what would you recommend they do to be safe and not deal with it?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: Knowing the product, right?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, these people go online, they can find Red F for 50 bucks.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then I I you know I have it, you know, they're like, well, why is you so much more expensive?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, mine's third party, it's tested.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: I, you know, a GMC certified manufacturer, you know, their standard is higher than the FDA standards, they test it 13 to 14 times before it even gets gets out in the public's hands.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's 99% pure, like these Chinese ones that are coming from China, they don't know what's in them.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're coming with these these um these tests that show hey they're 99% pure, but they could be faked.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: If if something just seems too good to be true, then it most likely is.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_04: How do you how if if you're an average Joe, how do you tell if they are faked or what's like a red flag to look for?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: The price.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, it may work, right?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Don't get me wrong, but I'm not gonna put something in my body that I can't hold tried and true behind.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean by the price?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, do you mean it's too low, too high?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Too low.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_04: What would be a typical price for anything, really?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It depends on what it is, you know.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like people are getting these cases of 10 vials of of let's say X, and it's like 80 bucks, right?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: But those 10 vials for me would be I'm just not a number.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know for sure.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I know some numbers, but I'm just giving a uh general general consensus of this.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they pay like 80 bucks these 10 vials, but yeah, if they want it for me, it's like 600.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, big jump then.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_04: I also thought when you said X, I thought you were talking about XC.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, definitely not XCOM.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_04: Which one of your three clinics uh sell the ecstasy then?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's good to know.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: So no, it's it's it's good to be knowledge, you know, on the these other companies out there that sh say that they're you know American-made, things like that, which you just gotta do your due diligence and follow up on it.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because a lot of these Chinese companies now are importing them to these, you know, fulfillment centers in in the States and they're slapping a label on it that says American-made.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_04: What at what point is it just being a shortcut as opposed to losing?
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, because I feel like a lot of people that are taking these uh anything really, they look at it as a shortcut to get to where they want to be, but you still got to put in the work, you still gotta put in the day in, day out, you know.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: You still gotta do the work, you gotta work out, eat right, things like that.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you don't, you may get some benefit from it, but you're not gonna get the full potential of what that product, you know, that product has to offer.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just like the GLP is it's like the let's say the lap band.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: When back in the day we were getting the lap band, right?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you ate like an asshole before and you ate like an asshole, people were out eating their, they were regrowing their stuff, they were expanding their stomachs.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing with like being on a GLP.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: If you eat like an asshole before, you don't change your habits, you're gonna go right back to where you were when you started, or worse.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_04: We had uh, do you remember the comedian Ralphie Mae?
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_04: He passed away, big guy.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, we had his wife on, and she had had this documentary where she kind of talked about what you know his life, and he had lap band, and it didn't work because he just he didn't change his lifestyle.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's crazy how it just becomes not almost a disease, but just something that you just can't kick unless you change something major about your your lifestyle.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: It really is, or have a scare, health care, things like that.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: It really is just a lifestyle change and that's what's hard.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of it too, it could be something that is mental or where they need some help with a with you know getting some therapy for it.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_04: That's interesting.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I I know I know tons of people in my personal life that are obsessed with the the weight loss craze that comes with it.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: How do you think that these uh you know in enhancing substances are affecting the weight loss conversation.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you mean?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: Just overall, because I mean like we're talking about forever people have said, oh well I just need to count my calories.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh I just need to I mean the whole cardio craze that we know cardio is not really the answer.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: But how how do you think it's changing the way people are approaching it and thinking about it as a whole it's I think it's a good thing.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's two realms right I think it's a good thing on one end and then a bad thing on the other because it's it's just you know it's like cardio in a bottle or whatever you want to call it.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's giving people the easy way out unfortunately.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: But the people that are doing it right, it's working very well for them and they're having really good health benefits on the on the end and they're optimizing themselves.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the people who just take it want to be lazy you know they'll they'll get some benefits from it but they're not going to you know optimize it.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: What do you think the if it was up to you in your opinion, what peptide or product would you recommend for weight loss over the others?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's good.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: It depends if you have a if you have a problem eating you know GLP you know or maybe you know controlling what you put in your body you know probably a GLP but there's other ones like SOUPP332 which they call cardinal bottle goes down to the mitochondria level and starts putting fat from the inside out.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: So there's other modalities that work very well that can work you know differently and I think it's objective on the person in the it's a trial and error situation.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: You you mentioned you kind of touched on it briefly but like it again with everything that's out there right now and this is it's a very hot trend all these peptides in in RETA and everything.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_04: What kind of regulations do you think there will be a year, two years, five years from now?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know they're gonna try to monetize it.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know I don't think they're gonna be harder to get but the definitely you know the big farm is going to try to monetize it and they're gonna try to put these patents on them um you know for the longest time they were trying to silence them but now it's too mainstream for the for the big farmer to to to silence them so now they're gonna try to monetize it.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah if if if if if they can make money on it.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yes they're gonna they're gonna be making money on it for sure.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: When it comes to just a lot of working out there there's a lot of people with bad shoulders bad knees and you know old injuries whatever and they hear about was it beep BPC 157 I've I have no idea what that is or TB500 like what are those supposed to help with what are they help with healing and rejuvenation and inflammation what do you give me a look for just laughing I do all this research I write down what they are and you're like I have no idea what it is I don't know what BPC 157 is a little uh yeah you know this is a little above my realm I'm the average Joe.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_04: Let's tell Andrew about it then yes please gather around children.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna learn about BPC they're designed for healing and rejuvenation right now if you have a torn ligament or something like that it may not do anything for you but I've also heard of it helping you know people with those kind of ailments.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say you have a slight tear in your bicep tendon you do a regimen at BPC and TB500 it's gonna heal you a lot faster create stop the inflammation and it's gonna get you back to normal faster i e our friend Devin had his jaw wired shut yes he did he was supposed to be wired shut for 16 weeks I think and I put him on a high dose of of BBC and TB500 and he had it uh removed after eight weeks.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa it's crazy that's awesome yeah that was wild seeing Devin with his jaw wired wired shut that was a crazy I've never seen anybody in person with their jaw wired shut other than Kanye.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_04: But yeah it was it was so funny like New Year's Eve we all had that party bus we all got into and Devin was sitting across from me and the music was bumping and we were driving and I'll be honest Devin was talking to me but he couldn't open his mouth he was just talking like this all the time I had zero idea of what he said for the 30 minutes that we were on our way to ego I just nodded a lot I smiled and nodded and kind of like mimicked his reactions like if he was like you know surprised I would be surprised too you know it's just the nonverbal communication that really really does it.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: So they do work.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: I've had a buddy that tore his bicep and he used a high dose of it and it and it eventually grew back and he never had a surgery.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_04: Did you take that when you tore your pecs?
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah I took it when I tore my pec.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: I took it when I had my disc replacement my neck and I took it when I had my knee my knee replacement.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: I know you said that it I think you said if you tore a ligament it might not help you there.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_03: But let's say you know you've gotten into the healing process maybe you're in physical therapy at this point at that point would you maybe see benefit from it?
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: Let's say you need surgery on something.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: I would start a before and continue after right because it's gonna help with the healing process when you're on a before then you have the surgery it's gonna it's gonna help fast it's gonna help speed in that recovery up.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_03: Is this something that I I'm sure it might be different for all of them so forgive me if this is a stupid question.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: But are all of these things that need to build up in your system over time or certainly but like with with that one I I like doing that because it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna help with the inflammation just because if you have an injury you're getting surgery for you're probably inflamed.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna help with the overall surgery process.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_04: Good to know good to know.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_04: So you've been in business wise you've been involved in this for just under a decade now what's something that you've learned that you wish you kind of knew earlier on because you're you're basically I mean not only are you learning you have to know all of this you also have to you know run your own business you have to market you have to network you find your thing what's something that you look back on and you say I wish I knew that business wise earlier on I was too trusting.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_04: Too trusting you are a very trusting guy and I I feel like it's a rare breed but why would you say you're too trusting uh I give people the benefit of the doubt um ignore some red flags instead of acknowledging it and just being too trusting and then like I said I've been taken advantage of and I've had things happen that could have been prevented if I would have taken action when I saw these red flags.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_04: So what are you doing now to change that?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't trust anybody not even you on the inside I still trust right but I don't give any control up I don't everything that I do is is is making sure that I have my checks and balances in place and I have the right people in the right places.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say somebody's in their early 30s or even 40s whatever and they're looking to kind of get in the same industry as you and you know do the same thing you're doing what's the piece of advice other than don't trust anybody what's a piece of advice you'd give somebody getting into it you know that's where my consulting business comes in to make sure they do it right and they have the the they have the right things in place to make sure they do it compliant right because if you don't do it under compliance the regulatory boards if you're doing anything with hormones can come down on you very hard.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_00: And making sure you you know your doctors are licensed in the state you're practicing in there's certain things when COVID came out and these clinics started popping up is it was fly by night it was a it was a quick way to make a buck.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_04: And then they exited yeah with I mean and again the the whole trusting thing I feel like has you know obviously in some cases not worked in your favor but for the most part I feel like you are one of the most well known people in Vegas.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_04: Like every every time we go out usually somebody comes up to you Dave how are you usually they're very attractive so kudos to you but almost everywhere we go I feel like people are walking up to you you're shaking hands you're kissing babies you're you're doing all that when it comes to networking and just getting out there and meeting people what what's your secret?
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: I've always been a people person.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think honestly working 15 years in law enforcement uh made it so I wasn't shy of the scrolling up to talking to people I have a very good network in town from what I've done and from the friends I have and I'm just very outgoing as you know so I'm not afraid to go talk to people especially when we're out and it always comes up to conversation because my stature what do I do and that is a great conversation starter as soon as I bring it up then I have 50 million questions.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah and then I'm very charismatic and and for some reason people tend to gravitate towards me.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_04: Funny how that works.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah um so take me through what a night out with Dave Lindbergh looks like you've been with me.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_04: I I don't know what you're talking about.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't been Julie hasn't been Julie wants to know what a night out with David looks like big Dave.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I you know a lot of um when I go out and I I have a lot of like industry people that are my friends and my clients and patients so you know I get you know sometimes they hey I have somebody I want you to meet come out or we the setup a night going out period.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: So we go out and of course we go out we have our table whatever section we're at and more times nine times out of 10 I probably bouncing around more than I'm at my table because I'm talking to people I see somebody I recognize down here or somebody recognizes me or they come up and talk to me.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: And it just becomes into a big networking I remember one night I was at a club here and I wound up signing up an entire SWAT team to my clinic.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: That's crazy.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah I've got more patients and more networking and you know joining new clients by being out yeah and for whatever reason I've you know I talk about this you know my clinic protocol stuff when I talk about getting business going I have never paid for any marketing yeah that's incredible and the my clinic was up to 6,000 patients at one point.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_04: That's wild yeah I remember in New Year's you were just always on the move you were never in one spot you were never kind of just set sitting there and chilling for a while like you were just talking talking talking there were a hundred people there or something like that.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah you definitely are the the go-to guy what kind of cop were you by the way I was a great cop a great cop is a great I was a nice one right I was very I was very direct in understanding I did I was no bullshit um I was I wasn't different right I was the same person I was but I had a different mentality when I became when I was a cop yeah I was very direct and up front when I dealt with like gangbangers and shitheads they knew where I stood with them and I knew where I stood with them.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was a game yeah but they knew I didn't bullshit them so I was very well respected in the city I worked for uh by my officers and by the people I dealt with because they knew hey if I fuck up it's a game now I'm gonna get taxed and I'm gonna go to jail.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes they sometimes they win sometimes we win.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I was very I was very understanding and very compassionate towards certain things.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_04: You're a cop here in Vegas?
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was a cop in Colorado then I also worked for the Indian reservation just north of town for about a year.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's good to know.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah if I'm ever in trouble.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_04: If you're ever in trouble call Dave Dave knows a guy that knows a guy.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah right you know my experience in being a cop for 15 years probably most people won't get in a 30 year career because I worked for a couple smaller departments but I also was very proactive and I also want to do a lot of things.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I've gotten a lot of certificates um awards and this I was able to do a lot in my in my 15 years not a short time but it it is a little bit compared to other other cops.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: I miss what it was I don't miss what it's become.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah what do you think it's become right now unfortunately it's a culture that these kids that are becoming cops don't know how to talk to people I think I posted talking about one of the issues law enforcement is there's they're robots they they're not people anymore.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: They've taken the humanity out of being a cop and then you gotta show some humanity being cop and also just understanding people people in general and to the departments the higher ups treat treat their officers like criminals something happens they get treated more like a criminal than the criminals do.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: So it's why should we go out and do our job be proactive if we're just gonna get you know slammed for it.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah it's tough it's tough man it's that's that's something I would I I I respect with the and I know the shit that they deal with but you know I know I can see both sides of it too.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um it's it's just it's such a tough conversation I ran an agency so I've been you know from the bottom I've been all the way to the top so you know I understand where these admin people come from but you still got to realize you were in that spot at one point and just because some asshole above you is trying to you know they need to they need to know what's going on.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_04: What's the biggest flex since you've been in Vegas what's the biggest flex that you've had here you've had some big flexes from from the short amount of time that I've known you you you've definitely had some big flexes where it's like damn Dave got the hook up there or damn Dave do Dave's doing this.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_04: For you though what's the biggest flex in Vegas that you've had that's tough.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_04: I know we ask the tough questions here at the big all the tough questions.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: All the tough I don't know see like my biggest flex I don't know I don't I don't know I really don't know um we don't live in reality in Vegas right and like I'm able to go out with my friends and with people we know and we don't wait in lines.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah people you know spend thousands of dollars or save up their money for years just to wait in line to get into a club and you know it's it's weird we never wait in lines it's kind of so I don't know what the biggest flex is you know I try to say that's a big one that that's a pretty big flex I try to stay humble about it because I like what I do and I you know it I don't really know.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_04: Even still this is a perfect example you are very humble and I like you don't you you don't have to be somebody of with your networks and your connections I would not be that humble but that that's who you are.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe that's why I have the show called Big Head.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_04: Correct that could be it correct uh you just went to what's that club that opened up at Mandalay?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh tailgate oh the tailgate the new tailgate tailgate how was it was that was a new tailgate then I went to Palm Tree as well what's what's palm tree?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Or not Palm Tree, the new Omnia Day Club Omnia Day Club.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: So with the two new clubs I mean you're you're a live you're a live guy for sure right no or you're a marquee guy who who are you I like all day clubs okay all day clubs you don't you don't discriminate uh between the the two new ones which one would you recommend uh they're they're different right for what you're looking for tailgate is awesome so they're bringing a concept like stadium swimming to the strip which is cool because there's nothing like that down the strip right and they're doing different things you know they're offering you know general mission but they're also offering for a little bit more money open bar passes which is cool no place is doing that.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_04: That's pretty cool.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean open bar like just legit like yeah you you if you want to pay general mission and plus I forget what it is let's say 30 bucks so I say$85 on Saturday to go into Telgate.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_00: You get a wristband you get open bar all day.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: Whoa wow that's I feel like that's got to be a limit limited time only big head outing big head outing big head outing but we're all off the clock it's cool they're doing all the sporting events there at you know like Sunday to Mondays I think it'd be cool just go hang out and watch Sunday football there.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's a different environment um than the normal day club which I which I like it's not as loud in there you get to watch the sports um and you get to hang out yeah what about omni omni was wild it's a typical you know new day club um it was just opening weekend right yeah I went and saw Rufus there on Saturday and it was packed to the gore yeah do you do you see yourself being one of those guys or are you sticking with what you know with Live and Marquee you know I'll go anywhere.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know that um you go anywhere that has a good time have a good time but I support people that support me.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah of course I'll be at Live I'll be at the places that support me in my businesses and I'll support them.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah interesting Julie what's the what's your favorite day club you want to go to are you that I want to go to you haven't been to because you don't have you been to day clubs I've only been to Live it's the only one I've been to I don't even remember how we wound up there.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_03: I think we were just staying at the Fountain Blue one night on like a staycation and we were like let's go drink in the sun.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_04: Live is good great times.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_03: Live is great I actually I'm excited to check out Omnia I've seen obviously it seems like everybody in town went to Omnia this time I couldn't walk two feet without talking to somebody oh I'm sure I am sure oh my gosh I want to go to all of them I want all of them that's my goal this summer to at least step foot into all of them once you better get on top of that I know it's already almost end of May right now.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_04: Alright so listen I like to challenge every guest that comes in let's do it whether it's a trivia challenge whether it's a singing challenge we actually haven't challenged anybody you haven't challenged a singer the only person you challenge is me.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_04: It's my favorite my patience but as I mentioned for anybody that's listening at home Dave's a big boy I feel like Dave has some pretty big biceps and uh I kind of want to I kinda I want to measure my biceps against his biceps.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Brian do you want in on this?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_04: Brian get in no I'm I'm definitely not hold on before I think I'm in for a challenge here I gotta I gotta get prep I gotta prep my what are you doing?
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: What are you oh my god I gotta get my pump on this is my I don't have weights here at this at the studio I think these little bands we can't believe you're wearing the glasses I know this is fantastic.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_03: I've never seen anything so douchey as watching you do banded curls in a cutoff tank in your podcast studio.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how are we gonna do this um how are we gonna measure biceps for you need a second Julie get over here yeah make sure you get the apex you don't want to be near a microphone andrew just sit in the middle on the couch my laptop okay here we go we're gonna do this okay make sure make sure you're getting the good one I'm a little sweaty just so you know you a little nervous he's the one that's nervous look at that oh this is the worst tape measure first of all how dare you all we can see is you is your butt right now against the camera good everyone in Bakersfield all your fans in Bakersfield I can only flex for so long Julie I'm dying overall okay don't don't don't don't don't say it yet don't say it yet we're gonna then we're gonna we're gonna measure Dave's all right get over there Dave Ryan I don't care what you say you're up next camera don't do that all right Julie's mooning everything this is just gonna make me laugh because I know what you're doing first of all I don't know what you're talking about it's gotta be a healthy competition is that regulation tape yep I don't mean you're good let's see I feel like that's fake news whatever it is so right now I'm it's double 22 per day 22 is that good or bad for you I haven't measured them in a long time I knew they were 20 but 22 is fucking big good for you I didn't guys were that big good for you that's what she said they've actually grown because I think the last time I measured them they were just over just over 20 do Julie Damn I swear to God if Julie has bigger biceps than me just my natural like bicep big if Julie has bigger biceps than me we're gonna have issues this is sad Julie you're fired if you have bigger biceps than me how long how big 12?
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's a foot long all right Julie what was mine 15 Jesus Christ Devin's gonna be so pissed I think I really I think it was 15 and a half I think it was to be fairly half an inch it was 15 yeah other girls would like the half inch we were in a debate we were in a debate earlier that we were telling him that whatever number people say about anything you actually have to subtract two inches from it.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah and then that's the truth we'll we'll we're talking about height we're talking about which by the way now that we have the measurement I want to measure my height because you want to do that right now or after okay fine fine I don't know how we do it we'll do it after we'll do it after we'll do it after Brian you sure you don't want to get in this bicep competition?
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no I'm good so yeah they've definitely grown good for you it's all those it's all the peptides that's working the FLGR and the SLU and the other stuff on the P PC and all sorts of letters and abbreviations well Dave this was awesome man where uh with all the ventures you have going on where can people get more Dave Lindbergh and more of clinic protocols and more Hanobi and rejuvenate you I think go to my Instagram you know David Lindbergh Co you know um hit me up on Instagram I'm on social medias my that's pretty much it.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah you take you taking new clients always always taking new classes you're a businessman never say no.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_04: Brian do you have any last minute questions for our boy Dave?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: Big Dave um I actually did have a question.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: Oh so you're you mentioned a lot of different things that you're taking are those all separate injectables like how many things do you take all at once?
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_00: It depends you know some of them you can mix together some of them you can't so some mornings I'm taking like eight different shots they're also Q they're easy they don't hurt yeah uh some of them are pill form okay so like I take like a brain blend right now that's like dihexa, testofensine a 5 minute one that's a pill form.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_00: And like the SOUPP is a pill form.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: So there's some that are pills.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're working on right now my manufacturer's working on um like um what are they called um fuck some of my mind like not like lozengers but they um like little thin you know like the little like the strips like strips yes that go in and they absorb in your cheek your roof your mouth okay and they bypass your liver right that's the problem with oral peptides you have to go through your liver and they then they don't work.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_00: So they're trying to bypass the liver with these and they're getting more more ethic ethics from them uh the more the uh the more they're doing it the more research they're doing into it so there's definitely ways to do them and they're coming out with more more ways to do them.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_03: Like those like Listerine tabs?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like that's a people's big thing is inject injecting the it can be scary to some people right they don't know how to do it.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: They don't know what's going on.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah there's there's nasal sprays there's oral so there's they're coming out with more ways to do it.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: The issue is how viable are they and how much are you actually getting from those that's absorbing in your in your body eight times in one day man.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_04: Good for you.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_04: That's what she said you dirty dog you you dirty dog well David this is awesome man I really appreciate you coming on.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_04: Oh thank you for having me I appreciate it hopefully I didn't get you in trouble like you did last time Dave Dave Dave I've been in trouble for a while so we're good okay good crisis averted uh well Dave this is great I look forward to seeing you at Ego later on tonight aka very early next morning it's gonna be great it's a Tuesday yeah oh actually they're closed I know the remodel remodeling yeah that's the worst news I've heard all day catch a new episode each week boys and girls on heybighead.com get your peptides and everything you need from big Dave I call him big dave big Dave shut up big bave shut up big Dave I like it