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Patriots Unfiltered 1/19: Divisional Playoffs Picks, OC Search Updates, Pats in Germany in 2023 · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. After an extensive interview process, I
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  Speaker 1: to Germany. That's the announced. I'm not sure that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? It's very deep in the show.
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  Speaker 1: breath confidence ye landed. Well, welcome the Patriots unfiltered. We
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  Speaker 1: are live from Gillette Stadium. It's Thursday, and uh, big
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  Speaker 1: news this morning, broke um. Patriots are one of the
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  Speaker 1: two teams that will be playing in Germany two games.
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  Speaker 1: They've only announced the two host teams, the Patriots in
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Date and location is still yet
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  Speaker 1: to be announced, but we know for a fact that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots will have one of their nine home games
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  Speaker 1: in Germany in twenty twenty three. But not because I
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  Speaker 1: was a little confused, and maybe just to clarify for
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  Speaker 1: anybody that that Kansas City is the other home team
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  Speaker 1: in Germany. They're not playing the Kansas City that it's
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  Speaker 1: still probably expected. And I heard one of Paul's people,
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Cox, say they're gonna be playing in Berlin. No,
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  Speaker 1: that's not even in the conversation. You got to talk
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  Speaker 1: to her like, come on, I don't know how that
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  Speaker 1: ended up being one of my that's not even on
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  Speaker 1: my station. I can tell people like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: either going to be Munich or Frankfurt. It's definitely not
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  Speaker 1: going to be Berlin. That they're not even in the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know where she got that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not going He'll be nice. It's probably the only so
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  Speaker 1: but we do know for a fact that the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: will be playing in I guess it wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: be nice. Yeah, uh, and so that's exciting. You know,
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  Speaker 1: pay for many years have been producing content for German fans.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, you know, with Sebastian Volmer, it was a
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  Speaker 1: no brainer, and so this is kind of the payoff,
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  Speaker 1: getting to actually play a game there in front of
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  Speaker 1: hopefully mostly Patriots fans. It'll be great. Get your tickets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be high demand. Yeah, I know that. You
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  Speaker 1: can go to Patriots dot com and I believe it's
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  Speaker 1: slash Patriots Deutschelen and you can sign up on that
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  Speaker 1: page to be in the newsletter and that way you'll
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  Speaker 1: get first information about how to get tickets. So, Freddie,
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  Speaker 1: you were in Germany this past fall, Yeah, right, yes,
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  Speaker 1: in Munich. Okay, Now did you actually stay for the game?
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  Speaker 1: I forget I did. Okay, So what were your observations
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  Speaker 1: of the crowd in terms of rooting interest. Yeah, so,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I made the comparison between the German fans
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  Speaker 1: that I saw and you know, the two times we
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  Speaker 1: went to London, and I felt that overall the fan
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  Speaker 1: base was more knowledgeable. Like in London they cheered more
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  Speaker 1: for extra points and field goals and touchdowns. It seemed
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  Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and you know, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of reaction to penalties for example, in German like
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  Speaker 1: the reaction was right, it was right at the right time.
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  Speaker 1: So it seemed like there was more of a knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of the rules. Yeah, and so a more knowledgeable crowd.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of rooting interest, it was Seattle in Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: So Tampa was the Tampa was the host team. But
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  Speaker 1: I okay, so that's what I was wondering. Seattle travel
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  Speaker 1: very well for that game. Again in London, I think
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots had a distinct edge in the crowd. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty much fifty fifty. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: did it feel specific teams are? It just feel like
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  Speaker 1: we're very happy when you look at that cheer. Just
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  Speaker 1: the Jersey count it was just as much, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the green and the fluorescent green and and then the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa colors. Yeah, you know, Fred forgot what the colors worse.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what you would call their blue.
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  Speaker 1: It's Tampa. No, it's Tampa colors. But uh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm lost now. Oh Tampa is Pewter and whatever. Peter um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you know it's it's a good fit now that said, um.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever these games happen in London or going in Germany,
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  Speaker 1: it's fans from all over Europe. Yeah, you know come
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  Speaker 1: because you know, Germany as a as a size is
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  Speaker 1: like a little bit smaller that a little bit bigger
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  Speaker 1: than New Mexico and a little bit smaller than Wyoming. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's the whole country. That's crazy, you know. So Europe
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  Speaker 1: is smaller than the United States. So it's not a
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  Speaker 1: big deal for someone in France to go to Germany.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm already hearing from from listener Tom Sean Millers.
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  Speaker 1: He was talking like to go so he's UK guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like it'll touch point get everybody there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: i mean, obviously tickets aren't on sale yet, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you know when they do go on sale. What
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  Speaker 1: kind of events did they did the NFL do events?
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  Speaker 1: Did the teams do events there? Yeah? We we had
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  Speaker 1: our own pub. All the home market teams had their pubs.
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  Speaker 1: So the four of us had pubs and they were
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  Speaker 1: packed every night. And we'll do the same thing. Might think.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that because of the time difference, it's perfect
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  Speaker 1: for us to do our show while we're there. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have a pub and we'll do it live at the
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  Speaker 1: pub at six pm. It'll be noontime here. It'd be perfect.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not wearing leader hos and I'm just putting that
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  Speaker 1: out there. You might have to, I don't know all
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  Speaker 1: Actually in Frankfurt they don't wear leader hosen. No, that's
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  Speaker 1: more the Bavarian Southern Germans, so Munich. What would I
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  Speaker 1: be wearing then, short? Yeah, no, No, it's time to
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  Speaker 1: stra leader hosen isn't big, that's not Frankfort. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start getting right with all this stuff. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to go in there like a you know, a double American. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we won't be Nubs. We'll have Fred to teach us.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I plan on sitting down with you and
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  Speaker 1: I having a whole lesson before we I've never been
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  Speaker 1: to Europe. This is my first time, or will be
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  Speaker 1: if you have a passport. Well, so that's the second
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  Speaker 1: thing I thought of this morning. I haven't traveled out
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  Speaker 1: of the country since COVID, so my passport's expired. So
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  Speaker 1: I have to go get a passport too. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: not that long a process. Yeah, you do it all now,
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  Speaker 1: now we do it. We'll get it. You can go
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  Speaker 1: to the post office here in Foxboro to the Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have to go anywhere. I just send in
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  Speaker 1: my old one. I never had one. Did you have
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  Speaker 1: to send in your old book? Yeah, the old book
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  Speaker 1: with the application and all that stuff. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what I need to do. Yeah. The rest of
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  Speaker 1: the family's got to do it the old fashioned way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, just going to the Bahamas. He needs to
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  Speaker 1: get that done. I know that. When we went to
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  Speaker 1: London last time, the team actually did that for all
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  Speaker 1: the players because they just can't trust all the players
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  Speaker 1: to get that done. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so they
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  Speaker 1: threw us into the can't trust no, but I would,
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  Speaker 1: I would. I would get that done now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even have to expedite it, So jump on it.
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  Speaker 1: It's on my list. I'm doing it. We have an
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  Speaker 1: appointment to go and do it for the kids. Good
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  Speaker 1: February fourth, All right, we're ready, Bahamas NASA. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know exactly are you're going away? I'm not he is
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  Speaker 1: Will Will's pone. Thanks for listening. Um. So that Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's excite. That's so that's top of the news. Um.
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  Speaker 1: That was announced today, and more information will be coming
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  Speaker 1: out over the next few months about time and date.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so what else we got? We got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reports, a lot of reports. What do we got? What?
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  Speaker 1: What's who's on the list coming in? Adrian Clem Jefferson,
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  Speaker 1: Old School Patriots, Keenan McCardell, Yeah, Sean Jefferson, Ye, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Kayley and Nick Kayley, Which what I don't get it.
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  Speaker 1: I saw Tom Tommy Kern's reaction to it. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what everybody did, Like what you're you're like what
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  Speaker 1: you're interviewing him? Now? Like why don't you just interview him?
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  Speaker 1: Last year, Like what are you saying to him? And
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  Speaker 1: why didn't you do this whole thing last year? Right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what did you learn in the last year? We didn't
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  Speaker 1: think you were ready? Did you? Like? Did he get
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  Speaker 1: ready in the course of this last season in terms
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  Speaker 1: of observing what they were trying to do? That's the
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  Speaker 1: the head scratcher to me, um, but otherwise not to
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  Speaker 1: do so. I always always prepared, But how do you
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  Speaker 1: go into that as? Uh? It is odd as a
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  Speaker 1: as a tight ends coach. You know, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think you would prepare to go into that meeting? Like
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  Speaker 1: are you saying here's the office, Here's what I would do,
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  Speaker 1: this is whre's why I'm ready, Here's why you know?
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  Speaker 1: This is the playbook that I you know, not like specifically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, personnel wise, this is what we were lacking.
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  Speaker 1: This is what we need to accentuate more. These are
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  Speaker 1: the kind of concepts that I think are better suited
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  Speaker 1: to mac Jones. And how do you do that though?
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  Speaker 1: Without throwing your fellow colleagues under the bus, right or
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  Speaker 1: like or being like, why didn't we do this last year?
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  Speaker 1: I'm pissed that you guys for not giving me this chance.
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  Speaker 1: Last year. Yeah, it's a it's a bizarre situation. Who
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  Speaker 1: do you think is in that meeting with him? Is
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  Speaker 1: that a is that just a Bill want or I
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  Speaker 1: mean Robert And that's a great question. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming Bill because maybe initiate in there.
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  Speaker 1: If he's going to go back to senior football advisor?
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  Speaker 1: Is he sitting there my replacement? You know? Right, it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird. Is Matt Growing? It is Elliott wolf In?
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  Speaker 1: It is Jonathan or Robert Kraft in it. I also
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  Speaker 1: wonder if they pulled Fears Dante Scarneckia, Like did they
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  Speaker 1: pull some of the retired guys that have obviously been
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  Speaker 1: around the block one hundred million times and know what
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  Speaker 1: they're looking at and what they're talking. So that's two
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  Speaker 1: questions we need to ask Dante. There is that one,
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  Speaker 1: and then there was another question, what is the associate
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  Speaker 1: head coach? What what is that? What are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: We need to get him on the phone. So we
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  Speaker 1: should we should because I mean extensively at least once
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  Speaker 1: a week by somebody. Do you think that's a little weird?
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  Speaker 1: Like he always has to chime in on what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Like every every week we go to him to like
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  Speaker 1: get the Dante criticism, Like I love him, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I wish he was still here, but it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like he's hanging over the head now. This offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: search worries me. I don't like it. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: the names, and it's I like that they're thinking a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more outside the box than maybe I expected.
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  Speaker 1: And I really think that highly of Sean Jefferson and
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  Speaker 1: Keenan mccartell as coaches. I think that they're they're coaches
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  Speaker 1: that have offensive coordinator in their future. But I think
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  Speaker 1: for this team right now, you need somebody that's done
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  Speaker 1: it before, like you needed somebody that's called plays in
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  Speaker 1: an NFL game that's coach quarterbacks. I think that last part,
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  Speaker 1: especially at least if ye like as as Greg Barnard
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  Speaker 1: looks to say touched the quarterback, which makes me uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: but at least if he had ever worked with the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback now, it just feels to me like you are
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  Speaker 1: in a situation where you're trying to fix your third
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  Speaker 1: year quarterback with a guy that is also trying to
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  Speaker 1: learn on the job of how to be an offensive coordinator. Now,
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  Speaker 1: if you told me that Bill O'Brien's coming and Keenan
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  Speaker 1: mccartell is going to be the receiver's coach and pass
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  Speaker 1: game coordinator, that's a that's a different conversation. Or Adrian
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  Speaker 1: Clem's gonna come and coach the offensive line, that's a
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  Speaker 1: different conversation. But as those guys being the guys at
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, I know everybody was new at it at
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  Speaker 1: some point, but they don't need it. They don't. You
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  Speaker 1: can't have a new guy right now. Well, here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing when you ask, you know, who's involved in
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  Speaker 1: these interviews? Is Girard Mayo involved? Right? Is that part
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  Speaker 1: of his new thing? You know? Does Girard Mayo have
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  Speaker 1: a new thing? Right? There's a lot of questions. Yeah, Evan,
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  Speaker 1: are you intrigued at all by I mean, I totally
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  Speaker 1: agree with your point of you intrigued all though with
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  Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, I know you were kind of like Kingsbury
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  Speaker 1: and get him in here. Jefferson's been with him. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know he's not king but I like the idea
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  Speaker 1: of some of the concepts and some of the ideas
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  Speaker 1: that a guy like McCardell or Sean Jefferson could bring
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  Speaker 1: to the table. Again, I just have hesitation with the
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  Speaker 1: fact that none of these guys have actually called plays
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  Speaker 1: in an NFL game, And on top of not ever
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  Speaker 1: calling plays, they have coached under guys that are there
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  Speaker 1: because of their offensive acumen. You know, in Arizona, Sean
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  Speaker 1: Jefferson is there with Cliff Kingsbury, who's the whole offense,
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  Speaker 1: and then in Minnesota, Koc is running the whole. That's
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  Speaker 1: why he was hired by the Vikings was to run
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  Speaker 1: the offense. So how much, say, does Keenan McCardell have
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  Speaker 1: and what's going on when koc is on the job
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  Speaker 1: because of his offensive background. I just have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hesitations with that. And then we have people saying, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell, look at what he did with Justin Jefferson, Like,
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  Speaker 1: so he deserves credit for that. What did he do
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  Speaker 1: Fred Fred had his eye on Justin Jefferson. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I would get in all seriousness, I'd give Fred every
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  Speaker 1: bit as much credit for Justin Jefferson as I would
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  Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell, or as they had the same amount of
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  Speaker 1: impact on his career. Sehn Jefferson Calvin Johnson has been
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  Speaker 1: very vocal about what a great coach Sean Jefferson is.
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  Speaker 1: We were joking about it on the way down here.
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  Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson like he needed coaching, Like what what do
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  Speaker 1: you what are you coaching him? He's a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the co here. But he cannot wear spandex. No,
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  Speaker 1: I know you don't. That makes you very uncomfortable, like
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  Speaker 1: unning at the produc you've been scarred for life. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think they're asking him about that in the interview?
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  Speaker 1: I think to Evans point though, it sounds like they're
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  Speaker 1: filling out the committee and not we're gonna hire an
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  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you know, like like it feels more like
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  Speaker 1: Adrian clumb Like wow, he's got a lot of experience
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive line. He's been an associate. Hiccup. I'm
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  Speaker 1: like hard, I'm a hard no on Adrian Clint the
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  Speaker 1: other guys. I can I can talk because I don't
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  Speaker 1: like what happened to whom in Pittsburgh. Yeah, that rubbed
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  Speaker 1: me the wrong refresh. He took a job in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the season, well not in the middle of
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: the season, toward the end of the season he was
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: openly soliciting other jobs, and Tomlin found out about it
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  Speaker 1: and said, no, no no, no, you don't have to wait
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  Speaker 1: till the end of the season. You can go, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's not good. Okay. Yeah. So, Plus I don't at
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  Speaker 1: Oregon this past year, and I'm sure if he gets hired,
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  Speaker 1: you'll hear about how great their offensive line was this
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  Speaker 1: past year. They were also absolutely loaded with talent on
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the offensive line that Mario christ the Ball recruited to
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  Speaker 1: Oregon before he left. And those guys are all in
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  Speaker 1: the draft this year and they're all gonna be drafted
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  Speaker 1: at some point in the in the in the draft process.
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  Speaker 1: So that Oregon had a good offensive line, there's acts
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  Speaker 1: were really good, but they also had immense talent on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line that really helped out as well. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I just keep coming back to
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. I want somebody that is established, that's
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  Speaker 1: been there before, that's done it, because they have so
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  Speaker 1: much to fix from what happened last year that I
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: just don't want somebody that's learning on the fly that
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  Speaker 1: really works. But I do like these names like they're
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  Speaker 1: doing some work, they're doing some homework, they're looking into
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  Speaker 1: guys that you know, So they're they're you know, these
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  Speaker 1: are names that we didn't come up with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: up with. Yeah, mccarto was on his list. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: somebody told him those things. Yeah, exactly, we didn't have to.
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  Speaker 1: But so so I, you know, I like that they're
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  Speaker 1: you know, going out of the you know, the normal boxes.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, and yet still Patriots guys. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna actually, and I'm gonna really surprise you, Fred,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend Bill a little bit here because I
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  Speaker 1: heard a lot out of criticism for that yesterday, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on my shows on my station. Fred. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: why does it always have to be somewhat you know, well,
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  Speaker 1: he played for Bill in Cleveland, or he was with
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots back in the nineties, He's got something because
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  Speaker 1: that's how it works. Like there's not very many coaches
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: out there that say, you know what, I have my
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: eye on this evanlaz Our guy, and like, I think
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: he can coach offense for me. I've never met him,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: but I like the way he writes, So I'm just
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: gonna hire him sight on sea. Like that doesn't work
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: that way, Like to me, those guys. Yeah, they have
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: a connection to Belichick. He knows them, but it's not
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: the same as hiring your son to be the defensive coordinator. Yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Like you know, like there's gotta be some level of familiarity.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: It's like Doug Marone, you know, like it's it seems
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: to me Doug Marone was in case of emergency Brake
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Glass like he always knew he was there, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: in the minute like the season ended, it seemed like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he targeted Doug Marone. You know, like, I don't know
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna end up back here, but he definitely
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about what the guys in New Orleans? Yeah, no,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Doug Marrone is his name is out there. Yeah, as
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: an offensive cord No, no, no, as line coach. He's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: like I keep hearing everybody's tied to Doug Marone. Keenan
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: McCardell was on his staff in Jacksonville. So there's a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: connection there, and that might help Bill O'Brien is obviously
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that's a well known story of how tight Doug Marone
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien. Well maybe that's why Bill, and again
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: this is just reports. We don't know. I didn't know
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that Bill talked to Doug Moron about about anything. He
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: went to me as a report. He went to New
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Orleans to talk to him. Okay, I didn't know that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's why I was like, it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: could be just to get info about these other guys,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: or it could be to talk to him about coming
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: over here. I don't know. I do like that element of,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe all these guys are offensive coordinator candidates.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're not. And I like the idea that if
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: possibly they're not, because they need you keep talking about it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: They need an entire really offensive coaching. If you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you don't become our OC. Would you be interested in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the line? You know? Right, you bring that up, which
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: in many ways I don't. I don't say it is
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: as important, but it's not far behind. And I think,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know, for some of us that are like, well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: just put Matt Patricia back on the offensive line, and like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good enough. Like I think
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: take that, yeah for sure, for sure, But that's what
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at, right, Like that's what I want because
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: both those guys have been coaching that for twenty years.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Like these guys that have done the Patriots should be
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: getting right right. The Patriot shouldn't be one of those
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: teams that has to give somebody their first shot right right,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: especially last year, Like do you can't have guys that
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: are trying to figure it out? I think that the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: players these days smell blood in the water, and somebody,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to Evan's point, who's coached it for ten years, comes
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in knows exactly what they want to do, how they
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: want to do it, and you just got to get
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: on board or you're not. And if there's a new
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: guy who's like, all right, I know I haven't called
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: plays before, it's kind of here we go again, like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: we got to sit and let this guy figure it out.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I agree, But I also just wonder if this is
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: all first show somewhat, and then we're gonna get Bill O'Brien.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: And it is interesting that they've interviewed too wide receivers coaches,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: because I've been vocal about the wide receiver play this
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: past season and Troy Brown and looking at that a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: little bit closely. Now they're interviewing two guys that have
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: that that coach basically exclusively wide receivers in their careers,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and you wonder if there's something going on there as
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: well that Troy Brown might not be more interested than that. Like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe these guys, these guys are experienced doing
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: what they do, if that's what they're you know, because
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Troy Brown, you know, also you know, sort of works
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: with the returners and stuff, and you know, Mark Jones
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: is pretty good at it. Again, I'm not a big
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: fan of the position coach is responsible for the success
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: of the individual players at his position or conversely blamed
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: for you know, like Nick Kayley can't coach now because
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the tight ends have been average for the Patriots. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: don't think that's on Nick Kayley, just like I didn't
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think Rob Gronkowski was a product of Nick Kayley. I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss got a lot of it it because Charlie Weiss
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: back in the day he coached running backs, tight ends
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and wide receivers and like you know, Curtis Martin did well. Uh,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: he coached Terry Glenn when he first came in, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and coats and so I wrote something in the newspaper.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it seems like everything that Charlie touches turns
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: out pretty well. Get a phone call. It's his wife
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Charlie really liked that article. You're and Charlie, I hear
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the shower in the background. He comes out of the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: shower to say, hey, that was really good. Thank It's
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of man coming out of the shower.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But this is these aren't like the stories that like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: great article, Kurs. This is why it needs to be
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a book, like the History Patriots Football Weekly Slash. But like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much actual credit Charlie should get
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for Curtis Martin. You know it right, Yeah, they were
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like the three players that we're talking about were all
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame worthy talents, like Curtis Martin is in
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and Ben Coates and Terry Glenn
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: had Hall of Fame talent. Yeah, like work when it
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: comes to wide receiver development though, that I think is
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: more on the maybe not production, but development I think
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: speaks more to the coach. I would agree with that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And and to you a point. You do a lot
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: with the you know, the concepts and the the xs
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: and os, and how many times you pointed out this
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: year that the wide receiver route running was a problem,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: not just where they ended up being, but how they
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: actually got there. And that is something I think that
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you could, you know legitimately. Second, you know, how they're
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: breaking off routes to depths that they were breaking around
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: about that, like it's not working in games? What does
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: practice look like? You know, because usually if it looks
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: wrong in the game, it probably looked wrong in practice.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That's great question, you know. I just wonder that all
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: practices looking like every time Mac went up to the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: podium after a practice, that was what I really was wondering.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It's just how did it really go this week? Like
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: how did you, like, do you really feel you're getting
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: it or do you feel I mean, only the guys
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: there could answer it, but I just I think it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a great part to believe that they get to the
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: game and they just collapse, you know. And that's why
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I got to imagine that the struggles were very much
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: present in practice, and that's hopefully part of the reason
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they've recognized like we have. So there was one one
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: little item of note that I that I thought kind
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of flew under the radar yesterday from Ian Rappaport talking
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: about Bill O'Brien still considered to be the front runner,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but at the end he sort of threw in there.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: You know, he's still considered the front runner. He's been
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator in New England before working with quarterbacks,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: currently the offensive coordinator at Alabama, and he's out, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I just gave it the Alabama there. I felt that
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Alabama and he's currently recruiting. Now, technically they're just like
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the NFL coaches there. Contracts don't end until a certain time,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and I think in college it's February. But if you're
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Nick Saban and you know he's leaving, you want him
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: out recruiting. Not really what's he selling him? You know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he's selling him his off. So I thought that was
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: interesting that Rappaport mentioned. I don't know if he just
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: kind of threw that out there. Um craps sheet does
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: have ties to Alabama. He used to coach, He used
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to cover Alabama before he came to the Herald and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: started covering the Patriots. So I didn't just dismiss that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was an element that didn't get
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: really much play. But I thought that was interesting. If
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: he in fact is out recruiting, is that something that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: he wanted out there? Maybe his agent says, I say, hey,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you know these guys aren't really coming after me. Let
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: him know that I'm not necessarily ready to come in.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: If you guys want me, you got to come and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: get I mean, is there the possibility that Saban says,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know, come back and give you a good bump
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and pay. And I see Albert Brier is on my
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: station um right now and actually says he doesn't see
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a lot right now happening with Bill O'Brien. It's it's been.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: There's Fred's dug my own thing coming up too. Yeah,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So I love that, I mean, and that's Evans thing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, and and not even as an off as
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a coordinator, but the old line guy somebody. It's not
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like we've done bad. Having coaches that have been in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that position for a long time, whether it's Ivan Fears
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: or Dante Scarneckia, there's something to be said about. And
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they have a relate O'Brien and Moron I believe their
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: wives were college roommates at BC. So they go back
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Alabama's offensive line coach twenty one O'Brien's first year there
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and it didn't go particularly well, and he was not
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: there last year's in New Orleans with the Saints. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: just if this all these interviews that they're doing ultimately
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: comes down to we're actually interviewing to fill out the staff,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: because O'Brien, that's what I'm saying, Yeah, then then much happier.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Then I'm all on board with it. If they're going
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: to hand one of these guys that they're in Adrian
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Clem is going to be the offensive coordinator next year,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be skeptical. If any of the guys that
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: we've heard about end up being the offensive coordinator, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would call it an uninspired selection. Yeah, include Nick Kaylee,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: because it would bother would be that they wasted a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: year when they felt obviously they felt enough about this guy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: If they it be that would bother you. But better
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to you know, would admit the mistake and do it,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you know, if he really is qualified and they thought
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he was the better to do it than never do
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the last guy they thought was qualified. No, I'm just saying, like, Okay,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: maybe it bothers you, but that doesn't mean it would
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: be the wrong decision. No, I just would I would
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: call it uninspired. It's like but last man standing, whoever
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: was around. But I would totally agree if these if
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: these guys are to fill out the staff. It's like
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: what I think they need, like, you know, a re
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: influx of some young coaches. And they're not young young,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but you know, guys who have some experience, but that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: can even if they're not the offensive corne or can
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: be groomed and developed. Hearing Evan's point, you could make
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: an argument that they need a new coach at virtually
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: every position. Now I could live with Troy Brown sort
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of continuing to develop into the role Vinny Sinceriri same thing.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But you need a line coach, you need a quarterbacks coach,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and you need an offensive coordinator. I don't think that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: those are really negotiable. My only question would just be
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of the group of guys that they have coming in.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: They're all kind of similar that they've you know, coach
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: wide receivers, they've been associate head coach. Is that kind
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of Are these guys in line for promotion or do
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you think that they would come here and kind of
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: make a lateral move from I mean, I know, you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: know in Arizona he's up for a job, and you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean there are the issues, but are these guys
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think McCardell would leave to do the same thing. Yeah, Jefferson,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: might you know he was the assistant head coach for
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a guy who's no longer employed. Yew. I don't know
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: if Brian Flores gets that job. Is that the rumor
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that he's generation for the Cardinals. Maybe he wants to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: retain him, just like Kevin O'Connell retained McCardell. I also
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: find it an interesting let's stick with O'Brien. If O'Brien's
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the higher and he has a good season with the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Patriots next year, then teams are gonna come calling for
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: him to be a head coach. So maybe you have
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Keenan McCardell learn under Bill O'Brien for a year, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: now you're passing that torch to keen. That's why I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: don't right, but but but that that to me is
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: not chess. That's the way the NFL works, right right
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: everywhere else, ye have your replacement in place, and then
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of say that to me, we're going to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: make you wide receiver slash pass game coordinator, and then
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you'll get the play call sheet when when Bill gets
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a head coaching job, because we know he's probably going
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to right, so that that'll be your job in a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: year or two. Fine, I'd like that. I'd like that
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: if they if they brought in guys with that kind
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of experience, if you have Doug Marone and and Keenan
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: McCardell well, Sean Jefferson, whoever, and then you have Bill
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: O'Brien and you're sort of leading the offense, and then
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: and if it works, which is what you what you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: want obviously, I know that's what now. I have options.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I know, well, that's what we're breezing by it. I'm
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not chasing the plane to keep Josh from going to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Indie like I have options. Right, If Bill O'Brien does
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a good enough job that he's gonna get a head
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: coach offer, then like Lacy's let's go, Like that's that's what.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I'll definitely have options in college. I'll tell you that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'll have options in college even
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: if it's not like a resounding success here, As long
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: as it's not a train wreck, the college teams will
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: will offer him. But Todd Monkin and Georgia is another
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: name that it sounds like he's going to maybe interview
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay now that they've parted with Byron Left,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: which another guy that's been calling plays for a decade
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and knows what he's doing and has been around the block.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, that would be a guy that I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: would love to have have here or add to this
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: list of of interested you know, interviews or whatever, more
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: so than the guys that they're interviewing. But it doesn't
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: seem like he's on their radar, or at least not
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: publicly yet. We'll see. Yeah, And you know, I would
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: assume that you know, some of these leagues are coming
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: from insight here. You know, just if you're gonna go
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to the lengths of that report or not not that report,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that release that you did last week, you're gonna follow
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: through and let people know that you know, that just
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't a couple of sentences, we're actually doing it, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know. And it's with all the reports coming out,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it seems like they're making an effort to make sure
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it's known that they're meeting with people. And I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good sign, but I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: share all your concerns with with who it's actually gonna
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: end up being. Yeah, but we do know this change
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of foot. I do still think it's gonna be Bill O'Brien,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and all said and done, I do too, And but
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's most appealing though, is is not
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: just getting that offensive coordinat but getting all the all
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the spots that they need, really reinforcing things. And you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: then I think you send a message to Mac and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the players too that you know it's going to be
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: different next year. And you know, and the other thing
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: too is I know people are getting in this like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Max got to learn a third system. I'm fine, he's smart,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: he got that, he got it as a rookie. I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: not as like, oh god, I can't believe he's got
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to do a third offense in three years. Like, well,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that would depend get it right, if it's Bill O'Brien.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it at all. I agree with you,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: so because he's gonna know enough already. If you signed
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: a new OC, do the rules allow that OC to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like come in contact with the players early or yes? Yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: so you can actually well I know for a head
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: coach you can actually start training camp early, right, I
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: know that. I don't think that's true for coordinators, but yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: they'll be able to have a little bit of leeway.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I think they're in terms of getting those two guys
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: together and figuring it out. But I just I have
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: so many hesitations of giving this to a new guy,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like a guy that's just never done it before. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I think in particular not necessarily coaching from a day
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to day because I think those guys are probably pretty
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: talented coaches, but in game play calling is a totally
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: different animal, like knowing how to set things up and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: knowing how to sequence drives together and knowing, Okay, we're
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna call this in the first quarter and then we're
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: gonna call this in the fourth quarter that looks like
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the thing we called in the first quarter, but it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: actually something different. Like those things I think are that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: three D chess that play callers that have experience, that
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: have done it before are really good at setting up
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: and McDaniels was good at it. And you see all
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: these other young coordinators out there that have backgrounds coaching quarterbacks,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: being quarterbacks, calling plays in games, like that's the type
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: of guy that I want here is you know, the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: guy that that's the pedigree right now, that's the success,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it's the you know Kevin O'Connell's. It's the guys that
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you know, Ken Dorisey, Brian Dable, like these guys that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: have done it before and have worked with quarterbacks before
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: or played the position in the NFL, and just understand
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: how you think on that level. And I just feel
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: like that should be the most important thing. Is not
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: we need to develop Tykwon Thornton. The most important thing
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: is that we need to develop Mac Jones, right, Like
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that's more important than the line or the wide receiver
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: development or whatever. And I don't know if these hires
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: necessarily point to that. I've always said that there's three
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: parts to it. There's the offensive architect, the person who
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: architects the overall offense. Then there's the game, the game
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: installer installation, and then there's game you know, play calling.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that the OC has to be all
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: three or are you comfortable with a guy who you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: know is the first two but somebody else calls the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: plays on game day like or do you think you're
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: ideally I would like him to be all three because
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I want the offensive court. I think this was a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: problem this year was that I want the offensive coordinator
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: to come in on Tuesday when he hands Mac Jones
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the game plan, and he's with Mac Jones from Tuesday
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to Sunday, and then they are on the exact same
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: page when they get into the game. This is a
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: call sheet, this is what we like in this position,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: this is what we like in that position. Here's the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: opening script, and they know exactly where each other is
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: thinking and what each other is thinking. I think those
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: are the guys that have done it at the best level,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: at the highest level. Josh, you know, that's what he
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: would do, right, And I just think that that has
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: to be the quarterbacks coach. I just think it has
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to be the same guy, because if you have a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: guy like you know, this year, I think Matt Patricia
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was spread too thin. So he's in an offensive line
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: meeting room when the quarterbacks are in another room and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they're talking about coverages and game playing stuff against the opponent,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and then Matt Patricia is coming in an hour later
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, guys, catch me up, Like
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: what have you been doing for the past hour. It's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: now we have all sorts of signals being crossed and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: things like that, And I just think it has to
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: be one guy and That's why I always get attached
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to to other than O'Brien, like the former cornerbacks. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: just like that. I like the optics of I've been
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in your shoes. I know what you're looking at. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: know what the game feels like when you're actually out there,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and it's not this foreign concept to me. All right.
• 33:29
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• 33:31
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• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Melvin's in Tennessee on the ACE Ticket hut Line. What's up, Melvin? Hey? Hey?
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Quick thing out? That was I'm a in relationship to
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: when you out talk about Gerard Mayo and stuff like that.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: But I would like to see really how he you know,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: he's only been coached for three four years, I would imagine.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I would just like to see how how he feels
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like he's developed all of these last three or four years.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Like anybody can. You can get somebody to a game
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: plan and see how things go. And I can always
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: repeat what somebody wants me to repeat. That's not really
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: helping too much. But in these three or four years,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: how am I getting that at? What am I doing wrong?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: If he says I'm good at presenting stuff that's great,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: but eventually you're gonna have you know, installed that particular stuff.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: So what is that at the point of being on
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the building, You're not gonna quote unquote open up your
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: world to me whatever that means. But I would like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to see what are the things that you do what
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: made you so great, and so I can get some
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: of that so I could be successful and things that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I want to go go forward. So I think obviously
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: as you're getting older, you want more help, not less help.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So I hope going forward this is what to see
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: your talking. That's good to have your you know, people
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that you trust, but you really need to get people developed,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: get people trained up so that you the presses. To me,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you can't do everything by yourself. You need people that
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: can't implement with just sand yeah things and develop people.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I think over the years Bill has done a good
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: job of that. Like he's always kept a pretty good
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: pipeline of young guys, you know, rising up and like
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you said, Melvin, being coached up, learning how we do things,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: doing a number of things. So like when you get
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: to finally being a position coach, you have a pretty
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: good foundation of how the organization runs, but they've run out.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: They've run out of these guys. The brain drain just
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you know, the depletion caught up with them. It was
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: just too fast. I do think it was. It was faster, Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and in recent because you lost in very quick succession Flores,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Patricia and Judge. Yeah, and those guys all took pieces
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: when they left, as opposed to Okay, you got Charlie
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and Romeo left at the same exact time, but you
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: had guys that have been here for five years. You
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: were prepared for that, so you were able to sort
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of withstand when Jeanie left I think the next year.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Right then it was a few years before you, you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: were in that situation again when Josh left an OH
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: nine and you had Bill O'Brien on the staff, so
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you would sort of been able to do it. But
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden you lose three I mean
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: helped me out my chronology, but three and three years, yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I would Also. I was watching that NFL Films thing
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: with Scarnecki and Ivan Fears in the Trophy Room that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: they shot the little segment, and it just kind of
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: put into perspective how much experience and knowledge they lost
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: when those two guys retired, and they're not head coaches,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: but they might as well have been head coaches, right,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: And to have those two guys walk out the building.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: And I thought what was interesting too about that segment
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: was that they pointed out that Dante Scarneckia actually survived
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I think three coaching regimes in New England, like he
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: was with Parcels, with Carol and then stuck around for Bill, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: So right, yeah, So I mean just think about how
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: respected and how much information and knowledge he must have
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: had and his coaching acumen that when four or five
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Patriots head coaches all wanted to keep this guy on
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: this And don't discount the fact that when you have
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that kind of experience with Dante and Ivan, how much
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that helps when you have your guys trying to slide up,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Like that's invaluable knowledge that you don't have now. And
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's why Ivan was around as much as
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: he was this year. I got to be honest with you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And plus, when you have those guys when you're the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: head coach. Okay, those are two areas I don't even
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: have to worry about. I know it's being taken care of.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: It's being done the way I want it to be done.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You know, the messaging is consistent. I don't have to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: worry about it, you know. Can you imagine young Josh
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: McDaniels and oh five, who wasn't in name the offensive
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: coordinator yet, but he was the offensive coordinator in five.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: He's got Dante. Yeah, he's got ivan fierce guys that
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: have been around for thirty years, right, you know when
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: especially Dante because of his knowledge of the game planning
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and the offensive line play and all that. He knows everything.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: So now you know, and I'm not trying to like
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: come off as being wholly sympathetic, but like, so now
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia comes in and he's his own offensive line coach.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have this thirty year it was a bad Yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that's why I say we should thank him. Guys make
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: fun of me. They had Gronk on the segment, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Gronk said that Dante would come up to him on
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the sideline sometimes and be like, hey, like when they
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: do this, next time you do that, And he would
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: come back to the sideline and be in the end zone,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like like this, like the things like that,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And he said, I'm a tight end and the offensive
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: line coaches coming up to me and saying, I saw
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you do this, but we really want you to do
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that or you know, some sort of correction or something
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like that. And Dante had the ability to know all
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of the positions, what they were supposed to be doing,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and what everything was supposed to be seen at all.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: There's no way you survive whatever Ron Meyer, Ray Berry, Parson,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Rod Rust. I think he went with with Meyer to
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Indy for that little hiatus that he was away from
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: New England. Then he comes back with Parcels and you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Pete and then Bill like, you can't survive all of
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: those regimes in one franchise and not know what you're doing.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Bill is Bill. But these guys had just as much
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: as experience in the NFL and knowing everything to know
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: about the game, said it's not even just their position,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: they can help anywhere, and just that settling experience that
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you just I mean, I think everybody by this point
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: could look at Dante Scarnecki and he's just he's got it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what everybody Dante just. I mean, that's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: for so long, that's what it was, just not sweeping
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: under the rug Dante will take care of the offensive line.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: He'll get it going. He'll get it work, and it
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: might look a little sloppy early, but he'll By the way,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it's the same in every line of business, you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: having people on your staff with experience as that you
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: don't have to like tell them, you don't have to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: look over their shoulder. You can just you're just confident
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that it's gonna get done. Yeah, you know, you trust them.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: We haven't even brought up Ernie either, right, and having
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: him leave as well, And I'm like, I'm not trying
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to make excuses for it, but I think that it
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: really looking at this whole thing from a thirty thousand
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: foot angle and putting into perspective how much knowledge and
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: just brain drain they have gone through. What these guys
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily coordinators are in the limelight as much
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: because of just the nature of their their positions and
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: things like that. Just to put into perspective, Ernie, Dante, Scarnekia,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and Ivan Fears leaving the organization all within a year
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: or two span. It's what like a hundred combined years
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of NFL experience just walking out the door, right and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: for all the like talk of like Josh Boyers of
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the World or you know, all those other like assistants
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: like those that I know everybody loses those guys, though,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I just these this is a different level. I think
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that's a great point of it. I don't think we
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: talk enough about the effect of Ernie leaving and like, yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: he wasn't a position coach, but he was a sounding
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: board for Bill. He was a guy that Bill could
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: bounce things off. He would bring things to Bill that
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Bill wasn't thinking about. I think that was a big
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: loss to Bill, I really do. That's why I brought
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: up the timeline, Like, I know that they've always lost
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: guys along the way. I think it's different. This latest
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: round of losses is different than the previous ones. Yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: but the McDaniel's on the tail end of it too,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: kind of cleaning out the leftovers. Yeah, And like Paul said,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and they took people with them. You know, I don't
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: know if anybody that Josh took with him would be
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the would be the OC now, you know, but they'd
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: certainly be guys that you know, know the system and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: you know. But let's just say that it was just
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Josh that left yeah, okay, so think what you will
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: about whoever the other guys are like the Bowheart degrees
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and the Lombarti. But that knocks do you other guys
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: down a level? You know, so instead of maybe Troy
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Brown being the wide receivers coach, maybe he's not that yet.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe he still has quarterbacks, you know, where Mick Lombardi's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks who knows like? Or Carmen Brisselo the offensive
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: line coach, which probably the biggest one I left out,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: just a massive loss because it seemed like he had
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: stabilized that position group when they were kind of searching
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: for it after Dante retired. It seemed like he had
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it buttoned up pretty well. And if Josh took him,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: then he liked them, right. Yeah, So Josh had intimate
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: knowledge of their capabilities and he chose to start his
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: new career with Las Vegas with these guys. So that
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: tells you something about how Josh felt about him. I mean,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: probably worth highlighting two. After Dante left, You've had three
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: different offensive line coaches combinations since then. I mean, you
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: had the two guys in Briscilo and Povich the first year,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: then Covid you had just Briscilo and you know it's uh,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: there hasn't been much Deblo Northeastern final. Oh really he's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: a husky. He spent a year at Northeast. Wow, co Op,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he just did his copy right. Yeah. Yeah, let's get
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: back to the Phone's Todd to North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey, guys,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I just want to say how already shout out to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: mister Kraft because I think he really pushed for this
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: change in this coaching thing, because I was really nervous
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that that was gay. Hey look at that last game, go, hey,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: we did good enough. Yeah, that's great. So that's it
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: feels pretty good to see that. Even Paul's other station,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: they're really giving thanks to Robert Kraft for finally putting
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: his foot down. Yeah. So actually we're going to talk
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: about somebody from another station, mister Hurt, who used to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: be there with you guys, who actually brought up Todd Monken.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I think I think Evan mentioned him, but he said
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: basically that the QB that's in Georgia right now, it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: kind of like a mac guy. You know, he's got
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: some stuff, but not a lot of stuff. Needs a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: little work in that little destity that Todd did a
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: really good job. He's like forty years old. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I get Andy's point. This is what guys that he's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: gotten a lot out of. Yeah, Todd Monkin's a good coach,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: But Todd Monkins system is in the arians tree, So
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that's an air it out, let's throw it, chuck it,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and Duckett type of system. Now, obviously if he came here,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: maybe it would be a little bit different. But you
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: talk about friends of Belichick. He's coaching under Kirby Smart
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: right now at Georgia, friend of Bill, So maybe there
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: is a connection there potentially, which is why I thought
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Todd Monkin's name could be in the running, because it
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: sounds like Monkin would like to get back in the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: NFL because he's also being linked to the Tampa job,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: So there's there's yes, yeah, And he's also been in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the NFL with Cleveland, as he has some NFL coaching
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: experience and play calling experience. I think the difficult thing
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and I know that you can say the same thing
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to a degree about Alabama, although their their offense this
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: year wasn't quite as talented as we're used to seeing
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: at Alabama. When you hire a guy like Monkin and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bill O'Brien for that. How much of
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it is that Georgia this has much better players than
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: everybody else, Right, it's because there's his stint in the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: NFL wasn't quite as successful as he's been at Georgia.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And I understand sets, and Bennett's not as super toolsy quarterback,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: but he's throwing a five stars all over the field
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and two tight ends that are going to get drafted
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: in the first round, and Fred likes the only one
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that's not going to get drafted. Yeah, I mean, it's
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: just they got they got talent all over the place.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien coaches Bryce Young, who wins a hisman that
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: comes back and throws forty touchdowns the next year. So
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that you really that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: is a factor in all of this. I would say
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that you got to take into consideration that Georgia is
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: just the best team in college football by a landslide.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you, duh. Let's go to Joel in San Antonio.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: What's up? Joel? Hey, Fred, thank you for taking my call.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And shit, everything that everybody uh does continuously. Um,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: just a quick comment and a question if I may,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: uh Evan my brother. Uh? When when you first started, uh,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I thought that, I mean, who is this guy with
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the funny sounding voice? Not that I don't have one myself,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: but um, as I as I started to listen to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: you more and more, brother man, you take me to
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: school every single day with your knowledge. Thank you. I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it and appreciate Mike for the higher Uh
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: really knocked it out of the park with that. Uh.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And now I know this is Patriots unfiltered and not
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Brady unfiltered, but just out of curiosity. Uh. Do you
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: guys think that with Brady most likely playing somewhere else
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: uh this upcoming season and maybe somewhere somewhere else in
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the following years because he wants to play till his
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: fifty eight, probably would his legacy be tarnished because of
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: uh that, you know, playing for a number of different
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: teams just chasing whatever he is. I think it depends
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: up all right, thanks Joe. I mean it depends on
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: how he does. Yeah, I totally. I mean, if he
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: goes to Vegas and wins the Super Bowl, that helps
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: his legacy. If he if he craps out here and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: you know, this was the beginning of the end this
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: season and he has like another year and it's bad.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: He says, I can't go out like that, and it's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: another bad year. Then I think he spoils the legacy.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm now his legacy is intact as what he is,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: but it does definitely tarnish it a little bit. If
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you know, like Willie Mays is the you know, the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: time tested example of that and one of the greatest
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: players who's ever played when out with a whimper, right,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And but you know, with Willie May May, he'll still
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: be Tom Brady. But like he didn't live. He didn't
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: do what he said he was going to do, which
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: was I'm going to stop playing when I suck. Yeah,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, it takes a lot of
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: cajones to sign back up again and know that it
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: could fall the wheels could fall off the bus. And
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I've always felt like he's just so competitive and obsessed
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: that he will go one season too far. Um, you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I just I don't think he'd be able to walk
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: away when he can still play kind of good. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: think he has to suck and that's when he'll know
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: in his time. And that means where do you guys
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: think he goes next year? Vegas? I mean, it makes
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: so much. Just how are they gonna pay him? That's because, man,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: all I heard all the years was how Vegas has
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: no money and that they're you know, but he is
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: he gonna ask for if you don't have to explain
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: this maybe again, do I know? Well, but cash? I mean,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he'sn't even gonna want cash. You're not gonna be able
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to do a long deal with all kinds of voids,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: but you could do it one year. I mean, did
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you give it? I mean, I don't think it's gonna
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna like a million cash. I don't think
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: he's gonna demand like you know, top of the market money.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I think, do what he always does. Yeah, and you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: even though you don't want him for more than a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: year or two, he could do the deal anyway. And
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you know those last years are just phony years. Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: but he's Mike's talking about the cash. I just think
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that thirty million, you gotta give him thirty millions, that's true,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but I think I mean, if they can't do that,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: then they really need to sell it. But thirty millions
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: not extreme, and I just I also just wondered for Josh, like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I like that's just it's kind of resignation
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: of just like no one's gonna say I can do
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: it without Tom Brady, you know, like there's got to
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: be something in him that wants to what what if
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: simultaneously he brings in a young guy, you know and
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: sets the sets the stage. Yeah, you know, perhaps perhaps
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you know it's all we hear about here is it
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: can't hurt a young guy to like but Tom Brady.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: For you, are you saying, like, draft a guy in
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the first round. Yeah, I don't know if that makes
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of sense. If you're gonna bring in Tom Brady,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you gotta maximize Tom Brady. No, you got to give
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: him something that can help protect them. What do you mean?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I think in the first round you gotta take a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: guy who's gonna help the team, not a backup quarterback. Like,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: if you're bringing in Brady, you're bringing him in to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: win right now, right so you don't think that they're
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: ready to win right now? I don't know based on
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: last year. No, Like the defense is a mess. Evans
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: point about the offensive line is valid. I've heard you're
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you're you know you're you a mentor Greg Badar talking
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: how well the offensive lines is, like, you know, they
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: got a rookie at this guard. No, I think they
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: did have an injury at center right. Yeah, they had
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: some injuries at right Taxi too, But Dylan Partam the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: rookie he was talking about as a good player. No,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I know that, but maybe they're a little bit better
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line went healthy than they looked at Ship.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But that was a train wreck. I just look at
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the season. I just look at their running game with
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Jacobs and Yakub and the way that McDaniel schemes it
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: up in the run games. I just look at that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and say, Okay, well he won't have to throw at
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: eight hundred times like he had to this year. People
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: talking about how he looked skinnish in the pocket, and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: you know how he wore down a little bit through
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: its seven hundred and ninety nine times at forty five
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: years old, sixty six passes. You're gonna be under pressure
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: on right with Michael Parsons coming off the edge like
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: he just that was I think the biggest thing that
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: they missed in Tampa this year was their running game
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: was terrible. They couldn't run the ball at all. And
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: if you have a forty five year old quarterback, maybe
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: he's got thirty good drop backs in him the game,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: but he doesn't have sixty at this point of his career.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And with Jacobs and their under center run game and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: then play action off of it and Adams on the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: outside and Renfro in the slot like that, just that
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: offense just fits any chance for like Sean Payton and
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: him say with Carolina, sure you know pay both those guys,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I'm with you guys. I think if
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: he's going somewhere or to be the Raiders, But well,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I mean seems so obvious. What if what if in
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the next round this weekend, San Francisco's offense just gets
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: exposed with Purdy. I mean, like they've got all those weapons,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: but Purdy just I just don't think you could ever
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: rule out San Francisco, right what I'm saying, system and
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: the people they have around him, and it seemed like
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: it would be but for him, Yeah, it would have
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to be um a crap. Like if Purdy wins the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, yeah, you know, everybody would be impressed with that,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: except exactly well said. But you know you have to
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: look at it and call. You have to see what
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: was his part of winning that? You know? Yeah? Um now,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: but what I'm saying it would make no sense to
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: me to bring in Tom Brady if you win a
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Right, what if he does nothing until the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: last drive in the Super Bowl and he puts the
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: game winning drive together. Listen, very smart football people, I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: mean he beat the Seahawks at home as a two
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: seed quarterback. I mean Tampa Bay, very smart football people
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: talked like that about Tom Brady. Tampa Bay just hand raised.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay just fired the roc Like does that make
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Brady happier? Or did he care? Well? Like Bill Bryant,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Does Bill O'Brien go to Tampa which he was rumored
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: to do last year because they wanted to replace left
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: which and does that make Brady stay? Now? I saw
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Edelman had a statement that said, uh, hell yeah, he's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: playing one, but definitely not in Tampa Bay. So I
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: don't know what what happened like to Edelman. No to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: that team. I mean, I know Edman said they can't run,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: but I mean, like, I look, he's still got Godwin
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and Evans and The only reason why I won't say
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: it's over for Brady. I mean two reasons. One is
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'll fully admit I'm afraid. I'm afraid to say,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: all right, he broke me downe, so would you want
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: all right? I'm afraid to say that he's done. But
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, I've said this a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: million times in this show, I just think there's a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: chance that it was all because he wasn't prepared for
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the season. Likely he retires, he comes back, he's obviously
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: going through incredible turmoil at home, and then he leaves
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: training camp for eleven days. He had no offseason like
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: he normally does, and then he didn't even have training
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: camp like he normally does. So in the back of
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: my mind, I'm wondering, was it just because he wasn't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: ready and that really hurt the team? And plus what
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: was his mindset? You know, with the divorce and everything.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I also affect him. The way that he played and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: down the stretch reminded me so much of the way
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: he played in nineteen. And that's why I can't say
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: that he's done, Because if he goes to an offense
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: that's buttoned up better and has a better situation than
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: what's to say, he's not gonna look like he didn't.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Be honest with you, I thought he looked like the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen version of himself last year. If you go back
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and watch that Rams playoff game, yeah, he spent half
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: the game pouting. Yeah, you know, and they ended up
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: making the comeback. But if you recall, it was kind
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: of a like people that watched that one of those
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: comebacks that was like, how many times are the Rams
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: gonna fumble in this game? Right? You know? But what
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: happened to Evans and Godwin? What happened to that? People
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: that watched that team a lot say that Godwin, even
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: though he put up stats, was not the same receiver
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: he was before the ACA, and with Evans. I didn't
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: see that. With Evans. I think that they for some reason,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: they were never fully on the same page. Oh that
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: was And even though he put up numbers two another
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: he has like ten straight thousand yard seasons or something
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: like that, it just wasn't as buttoned up. But with
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Godwin in particular, no explosive this. Yeah that's what he was.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: That's what made him different. He was an explosive slide right,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think he and they had no run game. Really,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't consistent, no, and that's then they lost a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: lot of linemen. You know, Wait, think about how desperate
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they were. They had a guy that went on IR
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: like the second day of training camp and camp. I mean,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: obviously they didn't place them on IR and training camp
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: because he wouldn't have been able to come back. But
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: he missed the entire season from the second day of
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: training camp until the Monday night game, and then he
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: started crazy. Right. That's just why what I can't quite
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: resign is just that he's going to Tampa. They're stacked,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, I know there's some different pieces,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: but Gronk wasn't even with the team at that time,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's still kind of the same team.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Like what they were a good team, Tampa had good talent.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: He made them stacked. Brandon's in Oregon. What's up? Brandon?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It was going on? Now? How you guys doing good? Good? So,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I guess got a couple of things here. Looking at
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the O line. How many guys do we have coming
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: back even if they're free agents? Right now? Out of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the five starters on the old line who you all
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: got coming back next year and starting, Well, you can't.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: You can't count mcderh him as a starter. He was
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: a fill in, right would I would be I would
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: be counting wins this yeah, and I don't think he's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: not coming back. I would say, you need at least
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a right tackle, and you very very well need a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: left tackle to the interior three. I think stay the same, yeah,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: yea sons I didn't say, I think the question. Yeah,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: So they just don't think about Trent Brown. That I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I just learned this week is that he hit all
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: of his playing time incentives this year, so his cap
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: hit went from like eight million to like eleven and
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: a half million because of the bonuses in his contract
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: for the playing time. So now he's due next year. Yeah,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So his twenty twenty three cap number is now I
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: think eleven and a half or twelve and a half
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars for next year with very little dead cap,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: so they could cut him and save about ten million
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: bucks on the cap. And that also, I didn't even
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: think of that during the year. I don't know how
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things pauses too, maybe you know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I always say he's always down to miss four or
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: five games, and I didn't even think of it. That's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: very unlike me. You remember him like dragging himself out
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of the locker room because he's sick, you know before,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And he played all those games, didn't play well in
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: any of them, but he played them all. So this
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: gets into likely to be earned incentives and not likely
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to be earned. So going into the year, all of
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: his playing time incentives were not likely to be earned
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: because he was hurt in twenty twenty one, and he
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: hit all of them. So now they hit the twenty
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: twenty three cap instead of the twenty twenty two cap,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: so that contract is no longer a team. He's a
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: flight risk. He's a definite candidate to not be bad.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so torn on this one because I feel like
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: they see him as a planet player that just has
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: unique size, And certainly every issue that Paul has brought
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: up is absolutely true. I just when I don't know
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: how you go to no tackles, and I can certainly
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: make an argument for it based on how he played
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: this year and how I felt at times about how
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: invested he was in the team, and I just don't
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: think he's that good. I mean, I think he can
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: be good at times. I'm not telling on you. I've
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: never seen him play well. I've never really seen him
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: play all that well for a consistent period of time.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: He got really good down the stretch in eighteen when
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Dante finally got through to him, but that wasn't the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: whole season. I got one more thing too for you, guys,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Paul before I before I get off the line here,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: but I agree. I mean, I hope crowns. I hope
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Brown's back, but man, I'm gonna stay him ten miles.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe you'll let him walk. But uh, anyways, Yeah, Hey,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez, cornerback from Oregon, Patriot's first round pick. Look
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: him up, Paul, look him up, Evan. Let me know
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: what you think. I'll call you back next, all right,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: go ducks. I've been starting to get a little bit
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: into first round draft guys, and I have the Shrine
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Bowl and Senior Bowl coming up as well. But Gonzalez
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: from Oregon, I watched him a little bit against Jordan Addison.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to do that more this year, Like,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: let's watch NFL players against NFL trick, right, Let's not
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: watch him against guys that are going to be accountants,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: you know in the fall and Sonny's car wash attendance, right,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and uh, he's a lot. They have a lot of
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: the draft class and he's one of them, a guy
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: from Oregon. A lot of really long, bigger outside corners
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: in this class. Like this is not a this is
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: not a Marcus Jones cornerback class. There's gonna be guys
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: that are going to measure in at six one six
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: two with length and size that can play on the outside.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: So this is a deeper cornerback class. There's no sauce
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: gardener in this class. But it's similar to the wide
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: receivers where from ten to one hundred there's probably gonna
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: be fifteen of these guys that go off the board.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: So it's a good class. All right, We're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: when we did off air mentioned a significant development league wide.
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• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Patriots like firmly in the middle of that pack, I
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: would say, I would say, but but I mean I
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: would like mac Jones or Carlo Murray, Mac Jones of
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, you know, like like I Mac Jones, Lamar Jackson,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I think you're the middle of the pack. Now. I
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: would rather be Commanders Tannehill, like the Commanders don't have
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: an answer, um Tennessee, I would say, is on part
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: not because of Tannehill being any great shape. But it's
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: still the Titans, and I think they have a good
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: program program, and uh, you know, Dereck Henry's still there.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's still King Henry. But because
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I wonder, like, you know, Evan, you mentioned, you know
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the Rams, it's mcvay's show, Titans. I would put the
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Rams ahead Titans. You know, it's Mike Rabel, but he's
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: a defensive guy. So do you have confidence if you're
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: going to be the new woe see there? I'm pretty
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: much gonna have my way because Rabel's gonna, like, you know,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: hand it to me, you know, hand the offense over
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: to me. I just I look at it as if
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: you're an offensive coach. And how you said you'd take
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: macover Kyler, But Kyler sealing is so much higher than
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Is that if you can be the coach
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: that gets Kyler Evan playing well. Kyler Murray was the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback and Mac Jones was the Cardinals quarterback. He
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't take Mac Jones over Kyler Murray. That's what it
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: comes down to, though, right, is that you want to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: be in a position that's gonna make you look good
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: and if you're the guy that comes in and Kyler
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: plays like he did a couple of years ago when
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: they were what like eight or nine to no, it's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: you're gonna look great and he's gonna make you look
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: great because he's super talented. I mean, he's got some flaws,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: but he's super talented. It's it's hard with like Tennessee, though,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: you gotta go and you're getting Derrick Henry for all
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: the good and all the bad that comes with that,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, I would just worry that
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: that's an offense that's kind of on its last sniff
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: before it's gotta But that's why I would put it
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: in the middle. I wouldn't put that like, I definitely
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: think the ones that ever mentioned with you know, the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Chargers and the Rams and the Cardinals, they you know,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: the Ravens assuming Lamar, those would be at the top.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: You know. I wouldn't put Tennessee up there with them.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: That would put them clearly. Just different issues for every team.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: You know, wherever you go, there's something you're gonna Now
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: the Jets they're all looking for one because the Jets
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: have no quarterback. Like so I would put that below
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: the pill like, I would rather have Mac Jones than nobody,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Like that's what the Jets have. No, But I'm saying,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're no flaws, because if you're if
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: you're like stacking up talent overall offensive talent. I think
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the Jets have more. But you can't just say, well, yeah,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: they have everything except the quarterback. Okay, well what are
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: you winning without a quarterback? Ben's in Maryland? What's up? Ben? Hi? Guys,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Um? You guys just touched
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: on it. But with like ten teams now wanting offensive,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: when do you expect the Patriots to name name one
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: next week? This week? Also? Would that bring another scheme
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: change to the Patriots West coast heavy zone? Like, oh,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: would you go to the um like another scheme change?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: That's all I was asking. Yeah, No, it's a good question.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I would think that all Okay, he doesn't
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: want to wait for the off take it off air.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I would think all the teams that are gonna fire
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: ocs have done it right, like the four the eight
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: teams that are left just today twenty minutes ago. I know,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: but they just lost the eight teams that have left,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: do you think any of those are candidates to fire
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: the OC. I don't think so. Yeah. So I mean,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: like might be waiting to see who you know shakes loose,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: and I think all the shaking loose is done. So
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: now now you know the field, there's nothing to wait for,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: make your pick. So I would think in a week
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: or two, you know, crazy, I think you got to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: move faster. Arizona last on that list to NBC sports
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Boss attracts crazy Barth probably did that himself right there.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, it's sports Boss. It's confused because he
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: was on their second. I think you got to move quicker, well,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: in a week, faster than a week or two. Yeah,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: because it's gonna start. They're gonna start falling fast. And
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, guys that are really desirable
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: that maybe you have already have as an interview set
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: up with or something like that, now they got five
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: interviews that they're going on and now it's a it's
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: a bidding war for their services. And I just I
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: really think that you got to move quickly. I said,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: the combine was like my original deadline. But now that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: we see some of these jobs that are coming available,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: this is a. This is going to be a big
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: turnover an offensive coordinators. I mean, it's almost half the
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: third of the league needs a coordinator. Yeah, so you
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: always run the risk of, you know, that one team
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: that gets the guy they want in the house and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: say you're not leaving here without signing this, and if
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: you do leave here, that deals off the table and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: that takes him off your table. But I don't know.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a lot for all teams
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: to consider. I think it's going to take at least
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: a week to you know, for hirings to start. And
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: how much does the Shrine Bowl thing complicated a little bit?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I mean you've got the whole organization heading out to
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Vegas for a week from tomorrow. That is a fact.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Bill can do interviews remotely, but
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it could be a good thing.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I mean it could we have a lot of games
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: there for the Pro Bowl and you know, maybe it's
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: you have the interviews come to him. Yeah, all the
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: teams are gonna be there. Is it required? I mean,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: this is a dead serious question. Is it required that
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Bill is at the Shrine Bowl? No? No, it's not.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: Usually the head coach of the team actually hands over
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: the team to a top level assistance. So maybe Drod
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Mayo will will run This is your first order a
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: business as assistant head coaches, right, going through the stuff
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do. Yeah, usually the head coaches
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: are there, but they're they're more for fun and and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: and for Would you be surprised to see Bill at
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl? No? No, I mean I mean because
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: especially with the Shrine Bowl will end, so he'll he'll
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: probably end up there. But I mean I think both
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: those spots are such you know, big NFL meeting points
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: at this time, that there probably will be a lot
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: of business getting done on the side while everybody's in
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Vegas and Mobile. Yeah. Um, Jerry's in North Carolina. I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: hate Jerry. Hey Jerry, Hello, Yeah, Hey, hello Jerry. What
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: was going on? Fellows even there? Yeah? I am Evan.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I owe you an apology, Bladdy. I've been trying to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: apologize to see you for about a year now. Oh. Um,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: we got into it a little bit breakup o the
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Cambon situation, and I was in my feelings and as
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: a man, I want to apologize. Oh that's all right,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Thanks for the apost. Was this
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: a Twitter thing? Probably gonna stayed? Oh no, this was
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: during the last podcast. I told Evan that he was
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: um not being fair when it came to Cam Newton,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: but he was right out for all. Okay, well, I appreciate.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I have someone on my Twitter time writes that to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: me pretty much every day. My question is, what do
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: y'all think about the Patriots targeting Rashi? Uh? What's his name?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: H H Jones from SMU the White Receiver. Yeah, I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: actually from Colorado? And what about the Patriots want to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: get Jordan Poyer or Marcus Peters in free agency? Who
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: it's a lot? Uh? Yeah. I watched the little SMU
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: you kids today. I started to dip my toes in that. Um,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I watched these guys. I like, I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: would take them. I would take them. I would take
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: them any of these top five guys. Um, I don't
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: know Marcus Peters, how old is he now? I mean
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: he's they're both kind of long in the two. I'm
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: not sure. I'm like players, a real good player, but
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: I just is that the direction that they they're in, Like,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: you know, we're we're looking for a thirty something year
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: old veteran to do this because we have so few
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: holes that that's how we're going to fill them. Yeah,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: like you could, you could sell me on free agency
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: to me, you still can't draft one. No, no, I know,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: but you're not gonna just like you're gonna use a
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: chunk of your resources on a Jordan Poyer or you
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: know at this stage even you know, I don't know.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Good Alex is here, I can apologize in person just
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: in case that was his list. No, it was, and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: so receivers that I mentioned was Rahi Rice from SMU
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: and then Charlie Jones from Okay. I know Barth is
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: a Charlie Jones guy, so maybe we can talk about him.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to commit. He doesn't want to commit.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: What I liked about Barth was the list of Shrine
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: people came out and I'm like, oh, was a Jones
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: And then He's like a great list. I love all four.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: I love every money of these people. Yeah. I watched
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the first round Receivers. Yeah, I'm
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: a I'm already all in on Jackson Smith and jo
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Just just give me that guy like that guy is
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: a problem, Like that that's exactly go back and watch
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: his first year. Yeah, ridiculous that that's exactly the type
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: of guy too, that the chain mover, right, like the
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: slot receiver that's just gonna get open quickly. And I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: understand that we all kind of get enamored by the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: outside receivers and the deep threats and things like that.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: But with this quarterback and with what this offense has
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: always been successful doing a guy like that that just
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: can get open quickly, reliable, always in the right places,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Like that type of receiver just always thrives here. And
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: he's like that. But with first round talent, right, it's
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: not like Jacoby Myers or or a guy like Edelman
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: or Welker coming in, Like this is a first round
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: receiver that has those types of traits, that that has
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: that type of play. The only thing about him that
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I would wonder about is the same stuff that I
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: always said about all the Alabama guys, Like you know,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: when he was in his heyday, it was a lave.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: It was Wilson and him, like, yeah, how you stopping right?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: But then they get so in the Rose Bowl, they
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: played Utah in the twenty twenty one or twenty twenty
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: two year by twenty twenty one season and Olave and
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Wilson sat out because they were draft eligible three fifty.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: I know the three It was one of the best
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: college games I've watched the last couple of years. His
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: stat line was fifteen catches for three hundred and forty
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: seven yards and three touchdowns. The big plays like I
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: mean with like three sixty yard plays or no, he
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: had fifteen catches. All right, I want to get to
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: some of these emails. Do we get to pick um?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: You know? Well, I always appreciate the people who take
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: the time to email. Of course, Christian the Cuban rights
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: in Um, what would have to happen draft, free agency
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: trade to be able to compete with the AFC East
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: again next year? I know there are a lot of holes.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Paul can't happen over one year. In my opinion, get
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Lamar and O'Brien, and I think we can compete with
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: the Bills next year. If the Bills stay intact, I
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: don't think that'll do it. But no, Um, to me,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of it depends on and I don't know
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: every team's free agent status off the top of my head. Um,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much the Bills will look different
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: next year. I look at the Bills and I see
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: a team that if they can retain enough of their core.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about Edmonds a little bit on Tuesday.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: You know, if payer is another one, yeah, um, if
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: they can retain enough of that core. On defense, I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: think they had a couple of young quarterbacks that that
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: weren't great this year, but they were okay and Elam
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: you know, they both show a promise, Um, the defense
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: would be okay. And then you're looking at like for
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: a team like that, I think James Cook looked like
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: he coming on is the second half of the year.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: You just give me one like complimentary wide receiver who's
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: better than Isaiah Mackenzie, better than the corpse of Cole Beasley,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and that that that's the thing that catching
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: them in a blank. That's the thing that worries me
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: about Buffalo is that they are really good organization in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: terms of identifying holes. And I think you look at
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: their receiving corps, it's not actually that good. Outside is
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: Deefon Diggs and so I'm just him terrified, like, oh no,
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Like what if they thought Davis was gonna make a
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: if he did off the playoffs last year and he's
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: the same guy. Good but he's not great. They thought
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: he was gonna be at that. Yeah, I mean they're
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: they're supporting cast Is is good because of Diggs and
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: because Josh, but it's really not special. And if they
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: look at that and they in this offseason and they're like, well,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: we need to get another and then it's like, well,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: your defense has trouble with them even with what they
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: have now, which you're not bet they're kicking themselves now.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: Late in the year, they had to make a kind
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: of a procedural move and they tried to slide Isaiah
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Hodgens from the roster to the practice squad. And there
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: was only one team that claimed him on waivers, and
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: it happened to be a team coached by his former
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, the Giants. Brian Dable knew him in what's
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: his face? What's the GM's name shown, Yeah, Joe Shane Shane.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: They picked him up and all of a sudden, he's
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: catching six or seven passes for one hundred and ten
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: yards in the playoff game like that's he was a
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: six round pick. They developed him, they liked him a
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: lot I saw. I know Peter King wrote about this
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit this week. That's the kind of guy
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: they're looking for is one of those guys and they
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: got to be kicking themselves as they lost them. Ben
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: in Liverpool, excuse me, hearing the news that the Patriots
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: are interviewing Nick Kayley this year is absolutely infuriating. Why
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: was he deemed not good enough last year but good
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: enough this year? Or is it a case of filling
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: out the interview process? That's a great question. I don't.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: My question would be if the Jets didn't request permission
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: to interview him with the Patriots have interviewed him. Yeah,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: And I don't have the answer to that, so don't
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: How much is it that he went into Bill's office
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: and said, at least let me interview right like you're not.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't hire me, maybe you go in a
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: different direction, but at least give me the opportunity to
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: present what I would do in my or Bill doing
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: him a solid in the appearance of an interview helps
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: him with someplace else. Neil and new brunsway, here's another offseason.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Would you rather you have to pick one one? Would
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: you rather hire Bill O'Brien as OC or another outside
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: offensive coach, so Billy or the field basically Billy, So
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I would need to know the field, but probably Billy too.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Would you rather take a highly towed tackle with pick
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: fourteen or trade the pick to Chicago for Justin Fields
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: and then Chicago would then take either of the top
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the draft? What? I don't know? I know,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Just keep Mac? Yeah, keep the fourteen. You wouldn't take Fields? No,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: I just I'd take Fields. I would take Fields, but
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't know if that I'm not
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: ready to start over. So no, like the fourteenth pick
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: of the draft of Justin Fields, I do well, yeah,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know why Chicago would do that. They wouldn't, right,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: but I would do I don't know. Um. And finally,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: if you can only keep one, would you rather keep
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: Nick Folk or Jake Bailey? Folks? Folks? Sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: Kickers more valuable than a punter, even even a thirty
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: eight year old or whatever. He's going to keep going.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: He's thirty eight and is uh is an ordine still
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: technically like on the roster, I saw this Guyano got
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: picked up by Dallas. Yes, he's on their practice squad
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: now a random life that is to be like a
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: practice squad kicker. And you're here that he was gone
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. He was I still have
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. Monday Night four extra points. Yeah,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: Tyler and Providence, I have a game for you. That's
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: a bit silly. It might be bad if none of
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: you are into world history. If you could get into
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: a time issue to pick any military leader throughout history
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: to be our new offensive coordinator, who would you choose?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: Some examples would be Sun Zoo because he literally built
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: the book of Art of War, George Washington because he
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: was able to take an army with inferior weapons and
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: talent and win the war. Or Vlad the Impaler because
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: he would use fear as a weapon against his enemies.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: George Patton, speed and aggressiveness. Yeah, what about Gengha's cotton? Okay,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: mccon I saw Patton. Uh no, I uh that's that
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: is a funny. That's a fun little exercise. Vlad the
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Impaler maybe Loud I didn't know that one. It's a funny.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: It's a funny exercise. I like Douce though, coming at
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: it with pattent speed. Ye, well, he was. He was
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: the ground game called the ground game between the tackles
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: was definitely the anybody but son zoo? How's that all? Right? Wow? Again,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: this might be bad if none of you are history busts.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: But I did also want to say Deuce did a
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: great job with hiring Evan this year. I appreciate Evan's
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: fake ignorance. Who responses when Paula Fred mentions the celebrity
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: from their youth because I just imagine Fred and paul
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: being shocked that Evan doesn't know who the Beg's are
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: or who Tomsons? Who? Whoa? Whoa? First of all, I
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: know who both of those people are, Okay, nobody who
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: was a bigger Begs fan than my father, So I
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: know the whole disco. I'm gonna actually defend Evan here.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: You're missing the humor that he's providing. Those are old
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: shots at us. He knows who we're talking about. He
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: likes to call us old. I can't I can't stand
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: the I can't stand for the Beg's thing because my
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: dad will listen to this and be like Evan, I'm
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: a little unsettled that his father was we right not?
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: My name is way and I'm a PEU listener from
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: China bills he can play quarterback in the NFL. Comment
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: on Max sounded luke warm. Is it possible that they
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: draft another quarterback with the fourteenth overall? No, I don't
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: think so there's there are There aren't even any options,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: like unless somebody like Will Levis. I all right, Anthony
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Richardson maybe, but I just I don't even think that
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: there's really by Anthony Richardson, but not at fourteen. Yeah,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: but I would be intrigued by him if you get
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: him on day two and work with him for a
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: couple of years, like maybe, um you mentioned earlier like
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Vegas taking a cornerback and Brady like Anthony Richardson would
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: be like the perfect guy for mc daniels to work
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: with for a year or two. But here I don't
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: see it. Sabrina from Austria says she hopes they'll solve
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: last year's problem of the majority of tickets going to scalpers,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: so she'll definitely try it already registered wish her luck. Yeah.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Her question is what is the chance of build trading
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: back the fourteens picked this year more or less than
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: fifty percent? Are there tackles or quarterbacks who could be
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: interesting for us later in the first or early second round.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I for one, will not be getting up in the
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: middle of the night for the draft this year. I
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: learned from my mistake getting up and hearing the nikkil
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: Harry pick one. I just I think you need specific
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: players at specific positions, and and like maybe there is
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: a small trade down and you could get a couple
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: of those guys in the twenties. But as I see
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: it right now, I think you grab a tackle at
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: at fourteen or fourteen years high enough that you should
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: be able to identify a player that get a star.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: You know that shouldn't just be well, if we get
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: him or someone else, it's okay, Like this should be
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: a guy that you feel strongly about at fourteen And
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: when you had Mac two years ago, it's just you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: needed a quarterback so bad, and I think you saw
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: everything through the lens of quarterback at that point. And
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: now you know not to say that they don't have
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: like like I've been saying, receiver, tackle, cornerback, they've got
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: those needs. But what do you got, Paul, Like just
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the picks in a second, but
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I've been noticing this this week Caesar Sports Book that
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: the Bengals Bills opened at three and a half. It's
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: up to like five and a half. Um Bill's favorite.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: I just wonder what the I thank you really I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: listened to in this game, Lombardi, I Michael Lombardi remember
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: broke down the the tier system that the Patriots user
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: cluster system with the draft, where they might say Cole
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Strange and Tyler Smith same player, So that would bug me, right,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: we were out of that territory right now where you
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: can just say, all right, Broderick Jones and the tackle
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: that twenty seven same player, Like, no, you need premium,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: blue chip talent, and that you don't get that in
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: the twenties most of the time. Now you might get
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: lucky and hit on one of those guys a little
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: bit later. But when you have the fourteen pick, like
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: you like, that's a premium pick that you can get
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: a guy that has that that pedigree of a somebody
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: at some position that's going to be one of the
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: top and it's gonna be like, yeah, not the same.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's exactly the same, but it's gonna
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: be like you're getting like the twelfth pick or maybe
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: even the eleventh pick, because you know CJ. Stroud and
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: Bryce Younger are gonna be gone, you know, and maybe
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: even to Evans point Will Levis. Yeah, So if you
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: get that and you can get the twelfth best whatever
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: else you want, right, Like, that's what you need. I
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: don't think it's the same as when you're twenty eight
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: or thirty two back in the day and you're moving
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: around with your little cluster system because you're already in
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: the second round. Because there's got to be a difference
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: between the highest rated tackle in the fifth highest rated tackle,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Like that's bigger than say the fifth rated tackle in
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: the eighth or tenth rated tackle. That gap is gonna
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: be bigger from one to five than five to ten. Well,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: they say that most teams and the Patriots have a
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: notoriously small draft board. You're talking about fifth, teen to
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: twenty first round grades on players, right, are guys that
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: are really worth that in the first round. So, like
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: you were saying, if you pick it thirty, you're already
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: in the second round on your board, So like, what's
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: the difference at that point? It might be a fairer argument,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: but I feel like they got into this mess because
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: they ran into that well, this guy here is actually
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: the same as that guy there, and like, yeah right,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I just feel like this is how we ran into
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: this problem with the draft. Whereas now you have this
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: fourteenth pick, go out and get him, get me a
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: brand name. Yeah, that's what's so nice about twenty twenty
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: one was like, you just did what you're supposed to do.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: You trade it up and got Barmore. You took a
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback you needed it. He kind of fell through the
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: cracks to get there, you know, Like it's just it
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: just made sense. And then you went back last year
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: where it was like, I mean, certainly some of those
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: picks made sense, but some head scratchers too. Bill and
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma says the problem with Brady going to Vegas is
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: you'll have to face Herbert and Mahomes twice a year.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: He's always been in a division where quality quarterbacks were
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: a rare competitor. He doesn't care. I don't. I don't know.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: I just don't see that angle with Tom. I don't
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: understand that you do. I know that's very common perception, Yeah,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: that you have to worry about the division and who's
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: it I'm not worried about other teams. From Tom Brady,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Kristen says, um, she wants to know does Hardy play hurdle?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like he would be a masterclass hurdle player.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: I think he does. I think I have talked to
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: him about it. Um yea. And should he should play
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: hurdle on his little music show? Yeah, that he does.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: He could play hurdle in between playing the songs right
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: that he plays right, he doesn't even play the songs
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: and then talk about the song do you play the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: songs that? I asked him about it because I'm like,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: how long does it take you to record a show?
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Because he just does it. Does it's like thirty minutes
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: to record like a three He wraps around all the
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: songs that are play. Yeah. Oh so it's really fake. Oh,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: it's really fake. The Bucks didn't just fire Byron Foot,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: they cleaned house. They did. Every single offensive coach on
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: the staff got fired. Wow. Thanks Tom. That's why they
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: had the comment that this is the first time that
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Todd Bowles will ever be allowed to choose his own staff.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Offensive staff huh um. Not from Santa Clubs about wordl
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: starters ad A d I e U. Yes, that was
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the story. I read a due in snort crane. Yeah,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: well he said a due and snort cover all the bases.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: Try it. I just my problem with with ADU is
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: I just get a. If I do get a bunch
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: of vowels, it doesn't really help me. Like, oh, I
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: got an A and a E like that. Just I
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: need like a T, I need an ass, I need
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: need consonants. Ends out again, boggle boggle. All right, all right,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: it's that time of the week, time for picks, and
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: what happened last week? First week of the playoffs. It's playoffs.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, oh damn it, Mike and Paul five and one,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Evan and Fred four and two. Mike and Paul should
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: have been that's stupid chargers, I mean six with the
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: spread not quite as strong. Yeah, Paul three and three,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: Mike and Fred two and four. Oh, Evan one and five.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Bad week. So that's where we stand right now, Mike
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: and Paul tied for the overall and Paul alone as
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: usual at off the moneymaker. All right, spread, Well, we
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: start Saturday, four thirty Saturday. The nine and eight Jaguars
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: are at the fourteen and three Chiefs Chiefs by eight
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: and a half. He's by eight and a hay a half. Yeah, this, uh,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: this feels like you're a lot of the week, not
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: an upset. I'm going to take Kansas City. I think.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Actually I am tempted that Jacksonville is gonna put up
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a fight because they have nothing
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: to lose. But it's just hard to pick. It's casey
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: at this point, so I will take them. I will
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: lay the points. Jacksonville does have that that Doug Peterson
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: magic on them right where they six and oh isn't
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: underdog in the playoffs? Just do it? So I think
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs win this game. But I'm gonna take Jacksonville
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: to cover the spread, just because I think Kansa City
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: be a little rusty in the first half and maybe
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: it's a close game at halftime. It's funny if what
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: happened last week didn't happen in Jacksonville just won conventionally,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I'd absolutely be taking the points, but I'm not going to.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the points, take Kansas City both ways
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: because I think Jacksonville just like sat around for a
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: week saying, oh my god, do you believe what we
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: just did, and then reality's gonna streak. Yeah, I think
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: the run for my guy, Trevor Lawrence is done. I'm
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: very proud of him for what he did. To thank him,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: I'll pass them along. I'm very proud of Trevor Lawrence
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: and the way he bounced back this year. Uh. But
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: I think the moment is the Chiefs. Um. I'm with Paul.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: I think last week was like how do you top that? Um?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: You know? And I think the Jags will will be
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: better even better for it next year. But I think
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: this is it for them. Yeah, we're gonna watch the
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Chiefs though. Yeah, like their home rock record in the
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: playoffs has not been great and you know that, like,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: you know, they could be rusty. That's a good point,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Evan Mace and who knows the Jaguars defense can make
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: some plays, you know, so like that front. Yeah, so
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: they you know, they can keep it close. But I'm
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: gonna take it both ways. For the Chiefs, I think
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: they cover Jacksonville teen. To worry about next year? Absolutely, Ah,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: who do you just look at them as favorite gonna
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: have to worry about I have to worry about them.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to get better. Yeah, I think
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do you just worry about them as division
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: the division champs, but so they don't really concern you. No,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I think they I think they're going to compete in
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: the AFC for the crown. Yeah, I mean I kind
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: of feel like talking about bad going for a playoff spot.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: You won't be battling them because they're going to be
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: the ac oh to knock the Patriots worried about them? Oh,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I don't right now, But I mean it feels like
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: there's a vacuum right now in the AFC South I do.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: I'm with Fred. I think they're on the rise. Yeah,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I think they are. The problem that I see is
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: that you look at the four AFC finalists so far
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: right now, Trevor Mahomes, Burrow Allen like that, how do
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: you get into and then you have Herbert too, right,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: if he gets the right coach, you don't got one
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: of those guys. So that's right. Yeah, it's five. Jackson
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: stays in the ass. Yeah. Six, Yeah, maybe maybe they'll
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: make eight playoff teams. He's right, Matt gets his head
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: screwed on right seven. Suddenly he's the eleventh best quarterback
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: in the conference. All right, Um, so that's at four thirty,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: then at eight fifteen. Now, just a question because we
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of time, appanel, do you order
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: your food before the four thirty game? Would you want
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: to wait and get your food? But tween for the
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: eight fifteen game. I don't know that, Paul Pulse chomping.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. I want I want info. I want to
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: know what you guys do. I probably would cook that night,
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: so probably would just be in the house. I don't
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: I don't go out Friday. So sorry for a disappointing answer,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: but we probably just cook. So what are you cooking?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: And when I haven't made the venue yet, fred but
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: I'll let Do you have to cook? No? But I
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: like to cook? Okay, So are you cooking to cook?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Are you cooking for football? Like? Are you cooking like
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: the playoffs? Yeah? Yeah? Probably probably did? Uh? What do
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: we do last year? You bring out the grill and guys,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: what do you guys stand on the viewing venue? Do
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: you prefer to just stay home chill out with the
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: family or I keep people over? I have no I
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: don't have any friends. I don't have any friends. Freddy, Yeah, Freddy,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I just stay home, Freddy, I'll hang out with you.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: This will be Actually it's kind of a far to
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: come down the cave. No, what time is the game?
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: The first game about four fifteen. I'm gonna come down.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: I'll be like, so sorry if I watched TV like
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: four thirties. Yeah, that's what I was expecting. Out to
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: you if you mean you're you're you're young. So I'm
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm Jersey Mikes is usually a lunch things before
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: this on Saturday night, I maybe maybe some wings, you know,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: some classic football wings, and I would say that maybe
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: like fourth quarter and then kind of like into the
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: into the break period. You know, you kind of order
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: them around that time, and then they come late, you know,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: the game, maybe right in the middle of the two games.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: You do like Uber Eats, do you have it? Yes?
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: You see I yes, Like like I love all those services,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: but there's something about like getting the food right when
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: it's done and hot, and I get it home and
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: it's fresher right, you know, I like, I don't mind
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: going out and getting it because I know it was
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: a situation like that, you get a missed. I know.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. That's why the timing is key. You
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: got the rest trunts around you there. I mean, I
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: know it's yeah, yeah, Paul. So I had well, no,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: I don't have like I just was. I'm sorry, I
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: was dead. I was dead serious, I was. I was
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: interested to see what you guys do, like I was
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: like Fred last week. I had no friends. I wanted
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: like Beth was working and I wanted to figure out,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: you know, should I go out? Should I ended up
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: not doing anything because my brother in law never really
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: texted me back, which is another issue. Even family, I
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: can't get to hang out with me. Um. So TJ
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: and his boys went out to watch the first game,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: and then they had the plan like that with the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: intention they were going to watch the first game and
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: then bring you food. Well this is this is where
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: I'm getting at, but then come home to watch the
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: second game. So I said, do me a favor. I'll
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: come and get you in between games and just when
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: when you're ready to go, order me and I got
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: a thing of wings. I got a dozen wings, half buffalo,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: half honey barbecue, good order, good times. Right. So I
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: went to pick him up, brought them home back, sat
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: down for the second game with my wings, and then
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: bet came home. She goes, oh, you look like you're
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: having fun. I go absolutely profile and you get me
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: a wet now just a bib with no I put
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: into order with Buff's Pub, one of the that's a
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: great move, one of the rare places that actually makes
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: a great They're one of the best in the region.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: Where is it right off the mask Pike though, so
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: it's super easy to get to. When we went to
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Gary Gradecki's wedding, okay after the reception, No, after the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: wedding and before the reception, there was like some time,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: so we all went to Buffs Pub. Who's we all?
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: My wife? It was somebody that wasn't part of that,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: My wife and a bunch of other people. They were like,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: it wasn't me. Six couples. I think they take credit
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: cards now too. They were cash only. I used to
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: live around this. I only went there a couple of times.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: We used to have when I worked at the Herald.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: We used to play in the Corporate Basketball League and
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of the games row in that area and
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: we would stop. Tony Mass would come with us. You
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: could ask Big Buffs Pub guy O that that explains
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, love Buffs pup probably buffs Pub before
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: that that big game to end the season, he had
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: to sit out because he had the poops. Now we
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: gotta hurry. Come on eight fifteen Saturday night, the nine
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: seven and one Giants are at the fourteen and three Eagles.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Eagles by seven and a half, seven and a half. Um,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: gotta hurry seven minutes lest the Giants. Yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: go divisional game, but I'm still gonna go Eagles, and
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the points goals. I'm gonna go Eagles
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna I'm gonna say that Giants cover.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: I think divisional game it's usually I've had since then.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna blow out Baltimore, but Baltimore
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: was able to keep it close. I think this is
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: a similar type of situation. I am with Evan on
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: this one. I think the Giants. That toughness that they
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: showed the very first game of the season, that a
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: game against Tennessee they had no business winning, and they
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: found a way to win. It has carried over throughout
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: the entire regular season. I don't think they're all that good,
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: but they are tough and I think they'll hang around. Yeah, um.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: Similar to the Jaguars. I think the Giants run is over.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I think Eagles cover. You know, so I'm gonna go
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: with for Saturday, both teams both favorites to cover. Um. Although,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Hurts has to be a little rusty, right,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: you know, he didn't play. He did play in the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: last game. They kind of still managed. He didn't run,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: but he didn't play in the last game. Yeah, it's
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: still a week off though, Okay. Anyway, Um, Yeah, I
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: think Eagles cover in this game. I think they might
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: be the most complete team left. But all right, now
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: the interesting games Sunday at three h twelve and four.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Bengals are at the thirteen and three Bills, and the line,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: as we talked about earlier, has shifted. Yeah, it's going
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: It's going up Buffalo by five. Was the draft Kings
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: this morning weather report or something like that, or any
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: any reason why. I Mean, the only thing I could
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: think of is that they've gotten bad injury news with
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: the Bengals offensive lineman. None of those guys are gonna play.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: I would imagine like they lost their whole offensive. They
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: could not move the ball at all in the second half.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: They moved it at will in the first half, but
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: they couldn't move it at all in the second half
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: once Jonah Williams, I think so maybe the word the
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: words getting out there while Collins was already out he
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: got Christmas E. He think his backup got hurt, and
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: the other guy Kappa out right. Well, Paul, you're a
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: little rant there. Just made me change my mind because
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: I was ready to go Bengals um, and because I
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: just I think the Bills have been playing with fire.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: They've been sloppy. Josh Allen just doesn't seem like like
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: he's waiting for things to start. Um. But if there's
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: too many injuries on but on the Bengals line them,
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: I can't take him. I'm gonna take the Bills. Okay.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: I have the same exact feeling as Deuce on this.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: I just I have not been impressed by the way
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: that Buffalo has been playing offensively, turning the ball over
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: a ton. I don't think you win a game against
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and a good Bengals team turning the ball
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: over that much. I'm gonna take the Bengals. I don't
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: love it for you, I don't love it, but I'm
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: gonna take the Bengals. Yeah, I hate this because I
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: really like both of these teams a lot and I
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: like watching both of these guys play a lot. M
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: game thing with that great divisional game last year with
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Kansas City and Buffalo, I don't want either one of
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: them to lose. I'm gonna split it. I'm gonna take
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: Buffalo to win. But I just I don't really understand
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: the spread. I thought this should have been a field
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: goal at best, maybe even smaller. Could it just be
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: that Bengals, I mean, Bills fans are betting more. All
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: the money's coming in and they're trying. It could be,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't really make a lot of sense
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: to me, given the area that we're talking about, but
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: it could be. I'm gonna split it. I think Cincinnati
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: is very good. I think Burrow is as tough as
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: they come. Even watching him in the second half of
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: that game, it's sort of like he said to himself,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: I just can't turn the ball over and if we
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: have to punt, it'll be okay. And he didn't make
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: it like a single mistake in that now he was
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: under like ridiculously like it just got ridiculous in the
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: like the fourth quarter of that game. That's why. If
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: that fumble doesn't happen, I think the game was over.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: Even if they didn't get in and they just kick
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: a field goal, I don't think Cincinnati was scoring. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go with the Bills both ways
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: as well, both ways both ways. Wow, So we had
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: that one all over the map, even like Cincinnati outright,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: I split it and you guys like Buffalo. Yeah. Six
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: thirty Sunday evening, the twelve and five Cowboys are at
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: the thirteen and four forty nine Ers Niners by three
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: and a half. Smallest spread. Tough one, tough one. Um.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to the quarterback, and
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Dallas in an upset here. Whoa, yeah,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: not see that they played well, just a classic matchup
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: here in the NFC playoffs, Dallas forty nine Ers. But
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with the Cowboys. By
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: the way, Deuce has like a bracket sheet in front
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: of that he's filling out. I'm fascint guy, just like
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: is that? Like you can't keep track unless you do that,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: like brackets. Not everybody's like me, I just one of
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: these days, I'm going to get this guy to go digital.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the happiest day in my life. Good
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: luck with papers. He keeps like a little a nope,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: like a calendar notebook, like like it's nineteen ninety five.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: He makes me look modern. Eric left, Eric printed everything
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: in the world, and now I'm the old guy. I
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: don't get so, like, when it's all done, what do
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: you do with that? You throw it out? I save
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: it in my file so that I could be like, well, actually,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: Paul back in twenty two, I think about the trees. Man. Yeah,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: I am going San Francisco both ways. I am going
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: to San Francisco both ways. Also, um, I do think
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: Dallas is I mean, I think you saw a little
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: bit of how good they can be. I just haven't
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: seen it consistently enough to pick it on the road.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: I'll take San Francisco to keep that coach. Please, guy,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: san Francisco win. I don't care by how much, just win.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go both ways with them. I just
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: I just can't stand the Cowboys winning. They're bad enough
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: when they don't win, because they lead the league in
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: every statistic you could imagine, imagine if they start actually
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: winning real games, forget it and suffer sufferable. What do
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: you think of the game times on Sunday? Like they
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: did that, like the Super Bowl time? Yes, five years ago,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Championship weekend time? Yeah? Yeah, they went the Divisional round
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: three and six thirty two. I don't, I don't, I
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: don't care. If I don't care, I don't care. You
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: like it earlier? Yeah? Yeah, I got a four thirty
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: indoor baseball practice on Sunday, killing me. All right, Well
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: that's it for our show. Catch twenty two was coming
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: up right with Alex and Evan. Yes, um so that'll
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: be interesting. If you emailed, we didn't get to you.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get to them in your show. Uh So.
• 1:59:52
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• 1:59:54
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