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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, December 4 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeffuars did you don't talk what Jack Warris did? Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time Brian Sex steps days a Jaguars Drive Time
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  Speaker 1: starts right now. Good morning, Happy Tuesday to good time
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  Speaker 1: for Jack's drive Time. In a very short week, everything
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  Speaker 1: condensed with the Thursday night game, Brian and Ashlyn with
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  Speaker 1: you this morning. Plenty to talk about. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: how are you? I'm great? Get ready for your first
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  Speaker 1: Thursday Night? Yeah, getting used to this change of pace,
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden tomorrow the Jaguars leave. We
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  Speaker 1: leave with them to go to Nashville. So it it
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  Speaker 1: really is condensed, is the only way to stay it.
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  Speaker 1: The players came in yesterday, they had practiced last evening.
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  Speaker 1: If you call it that, it's more of a walk through,
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  Speaker 1: Doug said yesterday. It's all about getting the players bodies right. Um,
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  Speaker 1: there's a little bit for all of us though. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting with dun Morons press conference history,
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  Speaker 1: how he was so already focused on the Titans that
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  Speaker 1: even when they were asking questions about the Colts, he
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  Speaker 1: really had to go back and really think about it
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  Speaker 1: because his mind was already so focused on the next week.
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  Speaker 1: Just a day after so what did he seem like?
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  Speaker 1: You seem cranky to you? A little bit, I would
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  Speaker 1: say more so just tired. Run down said that he
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  Speaker 1: went home really late, came back really early, was getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for the Titans this week. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: tough week for the coaching staff. I thought he handled
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  Speaker 1: the losing streak really well. He didn't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: some of his best press converses were absolutely he was
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  Speaker 1: the best. And so I don't know. I guess I
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  Speaker 1: kind of expected him to smile a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he'd be more just a little bit joking around,
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit. There was no joking. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen the clip of him in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: the post game victory speech with his team, it's posted
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  Speaker 1: on the Jags website, you should go and take a
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  Speaker 1: look at a jaguars dot com because there he let
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  Speaker 1: a little of that out. But I think he kind
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  Speaker 1: of enjoys the misery, and I think he kind of
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  Speaker 1: enjoys the He always says he's a weird guy joyce well,
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  Speaker 1: when he's winning. When he's winning, and he could be grumpy,
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  Speaker 1: everyone else can be happy. I think he kind of
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  Speaker 1: likes that he buys into it for sure. Hey, We've
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  Speaker 1: got a Jags Drive time poll on Twitter for you
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  Speaker 1: today and we're asked you what is most important to
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  Speaker 1: you in December? Winning, which obviously has come back into
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  Speaker 1: play after a seven game losing streak, draft position, because
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  Speaker 1: we're obviously focused on the future around here, player development,
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  Speaker 1: or is there something else that you're focused on? Let
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  Speaker 1: us know. The poll will be active on Twitter all
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  Speaker 1: day long and of course through happy hour this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: What is most important to you, assuming again the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: are out of the playoffs and we're assuming that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this December Jags Drive Time poll on Twitter. Those first
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  Speaker 1: two options are going to get people. I get go
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  Speaker 1: back and forth, and I hear a lot of people saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: why are they winning? They should be playing for the draft? Well,
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  Speaker 1: and most important, because we've got a little that coming up,
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  Speaker 1: and agree to disagree, and I don't want to tip
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  Speaker 1: our hands, so we'll talk about That's just what a
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  Speaker 1: taste of what's ahead. We've got Ashland's analysis top tweets,
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  Speaker 1: Agree to disagree. Jeff Loghaman is here. We'll get his
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  Speaker 1: perspective on the tape that he watched yesterday. The short
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  Speaker 1: week Jeff was a member of the players Union lead ship,
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  Speaker 1: and they have very distinct thoughts on these short weeks.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get what he wonders on this, your wonder what
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  Speaker 1: he thinks on that. We'll talk about that all that,
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  Speaker 1: But first, big things start us off. Big thing one
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  Speaker 1: is the Titans week through. The Titans beat the Jags
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  Speaker 1: last season, they beat the Jags both times. Dunbron says,
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  Speaker 1: this team has their number and that should motivate the
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  Speaker 1: Jags even more so. And I know that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this team is pretty much um, you know, beating us soundly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, um, and I think last time defensively we
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  Speaker 1: had a good effort, but we didn't do well offensively.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, um, they're a good football team, they
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  Speaker 1: really are. So you know, we're going to their place
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  Speaker 1: on a Thursday night, so it'll be a tough environment.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we've got to do the best job
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  Speaker 1: we can this week to get our guys ready. It's tough,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a short week, because like I said before,
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  Speaker 1: it's not not that you're out there you know, practicing
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  Speaker 1: and banging away and running around. You know, you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to get everybody, um, you know, bodies right, and this
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  Speaker 1: way they can go out there on Thurdan and play
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  Speaker 1: at a high level, I would say, and he's right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're a football team with a lot of talent.
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  Speaker 1: They appear to be well coached. But the good part
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  Speaker 1: is what is They're confusing to me? So um, they
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  Speaker 1: go to the break, uh, having lost three in a row. Right,
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  Speaker 1: they had the overtime win against Philadelphia, like, wow, these
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  Speaker 1: guys are rolling. Then they lose in Buffalo thirteen and twelve,
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  Speaker 1: and that was when Buffalo was still really trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure things out. They get shut out by the Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: Ravens at home. H they lose by a point in
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles, So then they go to the buy and
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  Speaker 1: you're thinking, all right, this is where they crumbled. They
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  Speaker 1: go to Dallas, they play New England. Then they're at Indian.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't sure what Indie was at that point, as
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at the schedule at Houston at the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Jets at home. So here's what they did. They
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  Speaker 1: come out and I thought there's no way they win
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas. I mean, we just saw what Dallas was.
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  Speaker 1: They're starting to play well, but they do, and they
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  Speaker 1: don't just beat Dallas. They beat them handily fourteen. Then
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  Speaker 1: they come home and think, well, okay, so here's New England.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a loss for them, and they pound New England
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  Speaker 1: thirty four to ten. But then they go to Indie
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  Speaker 1: and I get it. Indie was playing really well. But
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  Speaker 1: they don't just lose there. They get pounded. They really lose.
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  Speaker 1: You're thinking, who these guys are coming off the map,
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  Speaker 1: you know, losing in Houston? Uh, no, disgrace. That's a
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  Speaker 1: team with a nine game winning street going. They lose
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  Speaker 1: thirty four to seventeen. So they come home to the Jets.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well here's where they make their stand. But
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  Speaker 1: they're down sixteen to nothing and they have to rally
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  Speaker 1: to win. So I look at this Tennessee team and
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  Speaker 1: I'm confused. You can't figure them out. Well, I go
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  Speaker 1: back to the number. Look at Marcus Mariota right, eleven touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: seven interceptions. His completion percentage is insane, it's six. His
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  Speaker 1: passer rating is but he's been sacked thirty eight times.
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  Speaker 1: Behind a good offensive line, their ground game was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be really improved this year, better than a year ago. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is averaging three point seven and it only
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  Speaker 1: has a sixteen yard run. As long, he hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: the impact that they thought they signed. Dion Lewis, he's
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  Speaker 1: averaging three point four and has always scored one touchdown. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so there's six and six. They would have just been
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  Speaker 1: a game better than the Jaguars if the Jets had
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  Speaker 1: been able to hang on. So there's six and six
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  Speaker 1: and they're still in this thing. Marcus Mariota, He's he's
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  Speaker 1: the confusing part of it. He's the slippery guy. Remember
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  Speaker 1: talking about it week three. His numbers aren't great. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I came up to you after Gabert. What did I
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  Speaker 1: say when Gabert left the game? I found Ashton on
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  Speaker 1: the sidelines and said, Hey, the Jaguars just lost the game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and because they did. Because they did because Mariota came
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  Speaker 1: into the game and they didn't have an answer for him.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't dazzle you. He didn't put up amazing number.
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  Speaker 1: He just somehow gets down the field. But on third
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  Speaker 1: down late in the ball game, Keelvin Smith lost him
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  Speaker 1: and he got free. This is a guy that just
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  Speaker 1: finds a way to get free time and time again,
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  Speaker 1: and he did for what a thirty five yard run
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter against the Jets and then just
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  Speaker 1: kind of stood the pocket and fired the ball in touchdown, touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: They win the ball game. So um on on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: you say, they just shut out one of the most
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  Speaker 1: prolific offense is in the league over the last six
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  Speaker 1: to eight weeks five points a game over their five
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  Speaker 1: game winning street a quarterback who was playing at an
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  Speaker 1: m VP level. Straight games with the touchdowners at the
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  Speaker 1: number you used, plus eight straight games with at least
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  Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, which I believe was an NFL record. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: So they shut that down, and your inclination and just go,
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  Speaker 1: if you can do that, you can shut down Leman.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck came in just off the charts with touchdown
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  Speaker 1: interception ratio, quarterback grade, all of that stuff. And yet
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  Speaker 1: my concern for this football team is not whether they
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  Speaker 1: can stop the run because they did it last time
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  Speaker 1: against Derrick Henry Um, not whether they can shut down
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  Speaker 1: the receivers because their cornerbacks and their their secondary particular
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  Speaker 1: is playing at a very high level. Um figuring out
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  Speaker 1: that confusing guy, you know, even even yeah, and forget
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  Speaker 1: the offense for just a moment um. But can you
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  Speaker 1: stop Marcus Mariota went on third down in seven? You think, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we got this, where is he? And then he finds
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  Speaker 1: room for eight yards because that's what he does. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This was a team that made the playoffs one in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, got plastered in New England. Uh. Fine, they
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  Speaker 1: expected maybe to take a little bit of a sideway
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  Speaker 1: step or step backwards this year because there's a new
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff in plays they committed to that change. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Six and six is not terrible there in the hunt.
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  Speaker 1: But what are they I don't think even they know
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  Speaker 1: at this point exactly exactly. Are they the team that
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  Speaker 1: had the impressive wins in Dallas and against New England
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  Speaker 1: or are they the team that was blasted at Indian
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  Speaker 1: at Houston. Yeah, since the startup two thousand seventeen, nice
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  Speaker 1: tall stat that Marcus Mariota has seven game winning drives.
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  Speaker 1: It's the most in the NFL. He just he's a winner.
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  Speaker 1: He finds way to win and that's so cliche to say,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not pretty. He just makes it happen. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason why I think that there's some optimism
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  Speaker 1: for Sunday. Uh. And that is the ability of those
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  Speaker 1: linebackers to scrape free. First of all, Davin, Bryan, Marcel Darius,
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  Speaker 1: And we'll ask Jeff about this when he comes in
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  Speaker 1: later in the show. They are playing very well up.
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  Speaker 1: They kept blockers off of linebackers, and linebackers made plays.
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  Speaker 1: Those guys have to be dialed in to where Mario
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  Speaker 1: is at all times, every place, and I think they've
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  Speaker 1: got the ability to get that done. Plus, the secondary
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  Speaker 1: has played exceptionally well at times this year, and they
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  Speaker 1: did maybe their best football game last week, even with
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  Speaker 1: Jalen's need right. Uh. And again Jeff tweeted out a
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  Speaker 1: couple things. We'll ask him about that, right. And then
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  Speaker 1: you have Doug saying yesterday questioning whether Jalen's going to
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  Speaker 1: play this week, and he goes, well, yeah, he'll play.
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  Speaker 1: He's from Tennessee. Yeah, that's all you need. This is
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  Speaker 1: an important game. This is an important game to him
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  Speaker 1: against his hometown team. So the Titans are six and six,
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  Speaker 1: they're certainly in this thing. Uh. You know, the Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: is at four and eight or not. But I just
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to make of Tennessee. You just can't
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  Speaker 1: figure it out, and I'm sure. And that's hard for
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  Speaker 1: people to predict this game because both teams, you never
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  Speaker 1: really know what way this is going to go. Those
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  Speaker 1: folks in Tennessee who do what we do and talk
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  Speaker 1: about and cover that team all the time, are the
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  Speaker 1: same way. They're not quite sure what to make of
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  Speaker 1: this team. And John's oh yeah, yeah, and not as
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  Speaker 1: tough as seven straight losses, though I think we can
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  Speaker 1: agree on that. We don't envy them. No, Um, they
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  Speaker 1: don't us so. Um. The one thing is is Kaepernick
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  Speaker 1: is finishing his fourth year, second overall pick, so the
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  Speaker 1: Titans have the fifth year option on him, but it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna cost him money. You wanna talk about a big decision.
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  Speaker 1: Do they commit to Colline? What's the Kaepernick? That's another subject,
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole another ball games. An eagle scout. Other
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  Speaker 1: side of the spectrum, Marcus Mariota. I've been reading too
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  Speaker 1: much Kaepernick stuff with this morning. Um, they got to
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  Speaker 1: make a decision on Marcus Mariota and if they go forward,
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  Speaker 1: and if they don't, you know, you're committing to something
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  Speaker 1: else and you don't know what that is. And Mariota
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  Speaker 1: is a guy that you like to have. But can
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  Speaker 1: you pay him that for eleven touchdowns in seven in
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  Speaker 1: second right and just his injuries or are you hoping
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  Speaker 1: that you build a team that around him can take
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  Speaker 1: advantage of a guy who the leads of the league
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  Speaker 1: with seven come from behind game winning drives in the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter over the last year and a half two years.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty impressive stuff, all right, that's a look at the
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  Speaker 1: Titans type of big thing too. Big thing too is
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. We saw how well the defense played on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: dug row and credits all of that the communication of
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  Speaker 1: the defense. There weren't many mistakes on the defensive side,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we don't make any mistakes. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought they were doing a really good job of communicating.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that you can see on film. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And when they do that, you know, we know what
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  Speaker 1: type of players we have. They can they can play
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  Speaker 1: extremely well. So you know, things have gone so poorly
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. We had not seen
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  Speaker 1: the defense. Although we've seen them play well at times,
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the defense that they thought they'd have
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  Speaker 1: on the field this season. Um. You have G. J.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden there with that clutch interception and they brought him
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  Speaker 1: into play that nickel that Aaron Colvin had and they
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  Speaker 1: just from week three until post by they didn't have him. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you saw that play. Calais Campbell had played really good football,
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  Speaker 1: but he was dominant on Sunday when maybe seeing him
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  Speaker 1: dominate like he did, he took Quentin Nelson to the
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  Speaker 1: wood shed there and forced that. Look at the linebackers
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  Speaker 1: running free because of the performance of Marcel Darius and
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  Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant's emergence up front. Look at the pressure there
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  Speaker 1: and knocking the ball free. They had sacks, they had turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: So when you look at this defense, I think a
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  Speaker 1: lot of us thought the Jaguars are gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: make such dramatic change on the offensive side that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to use the cap room that they
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  Speaker 1: can create on the defensive side. So, yeah, Klais's cap
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  Speaker 1: figure next year over fifteen million, probably gone. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think with Millie Jackson's number, he's
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  Speaker 1: probably gone, Uh, you know, change in safety, what do
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  Speaker 1: you do with lineback or that they would make big
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  Speaker 1: changes on the defensive side. But they played so well
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, But just look at the way Unique and
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  Speaker 1: Gokway made that play. You know, a younger Unique probably
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  Speaker 1: goes right to the quarterback thinking strip not there. He
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  Speaker 1: made the move back to the inside and prevented what
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  Speaker 1: could have been the game winning touchdown right there. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about it. We talked about it last week that
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  Speaker 1: these next few weeks, everyone has a microscope under him.
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  Speaker 1: If this defense continues to play like they did on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna have a really tough time getting ready getting
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  Speaker 1: rid of any of those guys. Calais Campbell told Albert
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  Speaker 1: Breer of Sports Illustrated for his Money Morning column that
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  Speaker 1: his goal and the goal of his teammates was to
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  Speaker 1: be able to keep this defense intact so that they
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  Speaker 1: can return next year and finish what they thought they
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  Speaker 1: would finish this year. But obviously haven't gotten it done.
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  Speaker 1: There will be changes. I mean, that's just the nature
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  Speaker 1: of the business. I think it's safety. Both of those
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  Speaker 1: guys can bind. Are about fifteen million in cap room.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think right there, I don't think you
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  Speaker 1: have all three of those defensive linemen back. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people believe that Mille Jackson is going
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  Speaker 1: to be the odd man out there because he plays
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  Speaker 1: that three technique. And you've got a young guy and
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  Speaker 1: Taven Bryan that they brought in that will play a
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  Speaker 1: much playing at a higher number. But if you start
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  Speaker 1: winning and playing good defense over the second half, um,
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  Speaker 1: you might change your approach. Right now, you still got
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  Speaker 1: to find a solution to quarterback. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: believe that, and you've got to find something on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, and you can do some of that in
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  Speaker 1: the draft. Um. But it's amazing how one win can
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden make you take a deep breath
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  Speaker 1: on the slash and burn and take this thing apart mentality,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what we were talking about last week. Who
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  Speaker 1: do you get rid of? Who takes a pay cut?
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  Speaker 1: Doing all this math? And now it's the goal of
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  Speaker 1: the locker room to completely change that story. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: what one wind can do. It can calm everybody down
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  Speaker 1: into some degree. It has this week, absolutely change the storyline.
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  Speaker 1: That's sure. Yeah, well I didn't we all need that,
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  Speaker 1: Yes we did. We had a seven long we seven
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  Speaker 1: week long storyline. It you think we didn't want to talk?
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  Speaker 1: How about the players in the locker room? Yes I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was frankly quite surprised that there werenked a few
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  Speaker 1: more guys in there. It was Monday is not a
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  Speaker 1: really populated day in their guys are getting some treatment
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  Speaker 1: that they're up having launch. But postgame Sunday, yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and there's so there's more of that stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's less time, more to do. Um. But I thought
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  Speaker 1: there'd be some guys, you know, after all the weeks,
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  Speaker 1: of all the negative, I thought there'd be some guys
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  Speaker 1: that would enjoy the positive more. But there Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: I go back to Sunday post game in the locker room,
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  Speaker 1: Miles Jack is saying, come on, let's talk, let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: I thought there'd be more than on Monday, but we did.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. The training is such a
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: huge emphasis this week. We were going to ask the trainers,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: you know, is this craziest week of the season for
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: you guys, because you can only imagine how many guys
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: are trying to get ready to play on well, and
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: these guys all have a routine. By the way, that
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: routine involves, you know, whether it's extra physical therapy or
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: massage therapy. A lot of guys do something called dry needling,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: which is a variation of acupuncture UM. And so you
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: know they have their their schedule, but there's not time
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: to do that this week. So they've got to figure
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: out there is no schedule. I'm going to get this in.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: You know, food nutrition becomes even more critical. Sleep Talkelinsky. Yeah,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the sleep side of this thing is huge. Eight hours
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: of sleep vital for guys to be able to return
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: to their peak uh in a short time span. So uh,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day, three days to go
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and get ready. You got to maximize that. It's not easy.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: It's not Big three. Big thing three is the a
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: f C South. So we look at Thursday night football,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Titans and Jaguars. Can either of them challenge the Houston Texans?
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And we said, just now that we know the Titans,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have a tough time in trying to beat
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the Texans, and they obviously didn't. Texans nine game winning streaks.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: You can't catch them this teasing, but we're looking forward
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to next season. Well, either of these teams are able
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to challenge what the Texans have, and it seems like
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the Texans aren't going anywhere. Well, here's the interesting part.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: A year ago it was the Titans and the Jaguars,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and this year it's the Colts and the Texans, and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: it's the quarterbacks in particular, because while the quarterback situation
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: here is what it is, and in Tennessee it was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit of questions. Yeah, they're DeShawn Watson has
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: played really solid to good football all year long, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: then the story has been lucked who until Sunday had
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: been on fire. Their stability both those teams, they do.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Both of them have significant cap room. I think the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Texans have some issues on the offensive line, but they've
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: got cap room and they've got have a mobile quarterback. Absolutely. Yeah,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: they they're the favorites. They will be next year. They'll
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: be co favorites with the Colts. So the Titans and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars as this year comes to a close, I'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: just assume neither of them makes the playoffs, right, because
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the Titans are on the outside looking in right now.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's very competible. I would have to go their way,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and if the Jaguars go and win on Thursday night,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: then both of them are out of it. So you
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: have to look big picture at the a f C
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: South and how you compete for the Jaguars, it's about
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: figuring out the offensive side of the ball, the quarterback
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: position in particular. I guess you'd say the same thing
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: for the Titans too. What are they doing and if
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: they go with Marcus Mariotta, how do they how do
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: they build around How did they get him to work
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to his potential? Or maybe he's already there and this
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: is what it is, right And I thought it was interesting.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Remember a week three we were talking to our Titans
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: guest and he was talking about the running game and
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and how it was going to be a
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: huge breakout season for Derrick Henry and you read the numbers,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it's really not. And that was what they were going with,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was that huge running game and had playing compilearning football
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: with Mariota. That's the key word, and we've used it
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a lot down here this year, haven't we Complementary. He's
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a complimentary read back if you've got a feature back
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: who can carry the ball and then you hammer at
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: him with Derrick Henry, who I think is excellent screen
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: game too. Um. In fact, when you look at his
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: numbers in the screen game, Henry has well, he doesn't
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: have as many catches as I thought. He's only got
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: thirteen twelve catches on the year, not a touchdown, so
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: he's not been a factor up there. Um, he's a big,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: tall back. It takes time for him to get to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and when he starts running downhill,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: everyone knows the only way to get to him is
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to stop him early. So, uh, yeah, they've got some
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: things to figure out, just like the Jaguars dud. But
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: both of them will be looking up at the Colts
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and the Texans when next season starts, and so you've
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: got you've got to figure out how to beat those
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: two teams. Try to stay in the conversations. Flop from
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: one year to the next. Can it flop back with
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: good quarterback play? I can only hope, Yeah, you can
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: only hope. All right, that'll do it for big things.
• 18:48
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• 21:02
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  Speaker 1: at all. That was the coldest game of the season,
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  Speaker 1: A Pittsburgh was pretty cold too, um, but Nashville it
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  Speaker 1: was an afternoon game. Oh yeah, I felt terrible. You won't.
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• 21:53
  Speaker 1: let's go with ash Ashlan's analysis this week is the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: impact of Calais Campbell. So last week we were talking
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: about how to get rid of Chalais Cambell because of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: his over fifteen million dollar cap pit next season. When
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you play like you did on Sunday, you no longer
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: can get rid of him. And you look at his
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: on field talent, but even more so off the field,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you have to have a guy like that in the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: locker room, and there, frankly, is not even a close
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: second to a Klais Campbell in the locker room. Brian,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Ronnie Harrison story. Post
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: game on Sunday, Ronnie Harrison did not want to speak
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to the media after his incredible performance, which is unusual
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: because he's a personable kid, right, and he played at
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a high level. Right, he came in here in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: in the spring during the t A s and was fantastic. Right,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: played at Alabama. Is used to hide media attention and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk, so uh Andy from the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: PR staff was you know, trying to warm him up
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to have a conversation, and he kind of walked past
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: and went into the equipment room where the media doesn't follow,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and as Andy was having a conversation with him, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and we should point out Andy did a good job.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Andy was bringing him back. Shout out to you, Andy. Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I has stepped in and said, hey, man, you played
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: play of the game. There's fourth down. You've got to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: go back and talk. That's your job. Um. He's the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: ultimate pro. And we've said that since he arrived last year.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He's the guy who you can go to in any situation,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: when they're winning, when they're losing, when there's a big play,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: when there's a bad play, if you're a player, if
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you're a coach, if he is the rock in the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: locker room. And he stood there in the equipment room
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't hear everything he was saying, but I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: heard him say it was to play of the game, man,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: you gotta go back and talk about that. People want
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to hear what you have to say. And when I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: said to Clais as he walked by, as Ronnie was
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: coming back, I said, hey, thanks, he goes. It's important.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He gets it. So The issue with Calais was, in
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: my mind, if you're going to take Boardles and remove
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: him from your roster next year, you're gonna have to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: eat some money, which means you're gonna have to find
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: some cap rooms somewhere. Right um, Calais has a fifteen
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: five cat figure, fifteen million, five hundred and everyone was
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: looking at that, not just us, thinking well, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: thirty two years old and you're you're going to be retooling.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Why do you pay that for an aging defensive end
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: if you don't know what the quarterback position is going
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to bring it? Does it make sense? And Jeff Loghavan
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: said something we'll ask him about him to me in
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the pregame, he said, there's nobody playing as well as
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he is right now. And that's really that's a that's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a prose. I watching the little things that he does.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: On Sunday he played so damn where everybody could see
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: what he did to Quentin Nelson. That was Quentin Nelson
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is a promising rookie. I promise you you will probably
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: go your entire career and never hear another offensive guard
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: mentioned as possible Rookie of the Year candidate on offense right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That's how dominant the guy was. Anybody that watched him,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: saw what he was doing at Clay's just ran by him,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: ran over him, ran through him on Sunday afternoon. That's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the mark of a guy that a still has it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: B is worth every penny that you pay him. Uh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: there's no way whatever the plan is to create the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: cap space to absorb quarterback, to bring a new quarterback in,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: to get the roster where you wanted to be. It's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: not coming from I can't imagine that it comes from now, right.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And it changed the storyline because last people were talking
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: about trying to find a way and now he performed
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: at such a high level that now you have to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: stay away from that and you have to find a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: way now to keep him here. Well, there are a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: lot of candidates for guys that you could move on
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and go and replace, because that's the nature of the game.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Calias said it right in his interview. That's that's in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the Money Morning Quarterback on the Sports the Street website.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: But you've got the two safeties right to Shaun Gibson's
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: nine point six million, Barry Churches six million, it looks
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: like Barry has been replaced in the starting lineup, and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you don't go as a six million dollar safety from
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the starting line up to the bench, right, and especially
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: if Ronie Harrison keeps performing like he didn't on Sunday.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: We've talked about you know, we've talked about Malik. Jeremy
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Parnell is an aging offensive tackle whose cap figures six
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: million next year. I mean, you can, you can find
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: some room on your cap um Calias was one of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the easiest ways to do it, but based on the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: way that he played and based the team, you're not
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: going to find that. And they're just there's so few
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: guys in the locker room that mean as much as
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: he does to his team. He's worth every penny that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you pay, right, And maybe it's too harsh to say
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that there isn't a close second, but I truly can't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: think of a second to Claris Campbell. There is not. Therefore,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Ash's analysis. I gotta find a way to keep up. Yep.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great one. Good thank you. Analysis. Game.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Isn't that hard, Isn't It's not? I'm good at analyzing things, apparently,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: just ask you. All right, let's go to top tweets
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: after all, win social media is pretty active. We have
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys talking on Twitter this week, which
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: is a pleasant surprise. Let's do it alright. Top tweet
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: number one Calais Campbell, the guy that we just analyze
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: watching Monday Night Football last night. Adrian Peterson man all day,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: still hasn't much respect. Adrian Peterson Pro Bowl vote. You
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: have my vote. Ninety touchdown roun oldest player in NFL
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: history je an ninety yard touchdown? Right. I don't know
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: whether that says that he still got speed because they
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: didn't look like he was that fast to me, or
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles defense was remarkably slow. Play um. Two things.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: First of all, Clais Campbell loves football and that he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, they practiced last night. He did a segment
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of Jaguars All Access, uh from this room obviously, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: then watched Monday Night Football. He loves it, he lives it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: That's why you pay those guys. It's important to him.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: You'll hear that during the draft period next year. You
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: know it will be something is football important to this
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: player or not? Uh? It is and apparently always has
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: been to Clay's Campbell. Yeah, it's obvious now when it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: not because you can look at a guy like Calais
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Campbell and compare it to those guys alright. Top tweet
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: number two d D. Westbrooks So Philip Pileman tweeted out
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: a clip of from Sunday Night from Sunday Afternoon where D. D.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Westbrook caught a pass. He was going down the field
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, three Coast defenders are come
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: in and you see Keelan Cole just push d D.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Westbrook down, take him and throw him down on the field.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And D D. Westbrook tweets out Cole called me last
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: night and said, d D had to help come, help
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you go down because the calvary was coming and you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: were about to get messed up. We'll save for the show.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: So D D. Westbrook after the game called him and said, Keilan,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: why did you push me down? And Cole said, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: had to help you out, man, You're about to get nailed.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: That's teamwork, right, And you go back and watch the
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: clipp and he literally takes him and throws him down. Well, indeed,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: he proved his worth in the Buffalo game where he
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you know, he had the forty three yard run on
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the end around was a key contributor in the field
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: position with the hunt returns. Yeah, you need him on
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the field man, and he's tough. You see that too.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: He has like he takes hits sometimes, like triple hits.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, there's no way he's getting up, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he just pops on her. Here's the play, so you'll
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: see at the end. Here he's going, He's going, He's going.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Keeling's right there, just go down. I missed that in
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the game. I did too until I saw it on
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: the but I was like, wow, clan just completely tackled
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: his own teammate. Absolutely help the guy out. All right, now,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we all saw Jalen Ramsey in the handshake the fake
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: hand jake to Andrew Lucks try to help him out,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: he said after the game. I do that all the time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: You guys just never noticed. While he tweeted this out
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: after the game, him and Andrew Luck hugging. This is
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: what y'all need to see as a competitor. Always give
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it my all on the field. Play fierce, play, passionate,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: try to get the edge, pay my respect to the game,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and most importantly, have fun. I have no friends between
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the white lines, but after its respect goodwin Jaguars. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: didn't see it during the game. I saw the divot.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I was focused on the divot that Andrew Luck took
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: out of the field. Um. But afterwards when you see this, hey, look,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I've said this a couple of times since that terrible
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: game in Indianapolis, and we may have mentioned this, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he was bad off the field to sat away by himself,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't really dialed into the rest of the defensive backfield.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: It was almost like he was pounding nindy. Um. He
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: has risen, not not just on the field, but off
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the field. He stands in the locker room, he answers
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: all the questions, um. Tweeting that out right at that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: picture with him and Andrew Luck. That's you know, that's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: a guy who's maturing, right because last season I don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: think he would have cared what people would have said. No,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: but he heard that people were saying it was disrespectful
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: that he played the joke on Andrew Luck. And he
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: has no friends between the white lines himself. All pro
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is voted on by what you do on the field. Um.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But he is starting to show that he's got that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: kind of a level off the field as well. And
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: we hadn't seen it from him. We all appreciated his
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: candor you know, he appreciated the honest whatever you want
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: to call it, the swagger um. But when the stuff
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: has been tough this year, the last month, he's been
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: really good. Yes, he's been the guy to go to,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: which was we didn't expect that going into it. Star player. Yeah, yeah, sure,
• 30:50
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  Speaker 1: agree to disagree and change the pace. There's some positivity today, well,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: and that that happens when you win. There's also some where.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: There were some clever ones. This was a fun group
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: of tough So let's roll him out of rabs. We'll
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: start with this one. I don't know what to call him. Anna,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you see it right there. Portals wasn't the biggest problem,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: just the most easily replaced. He'll be good on a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: team with an offensive line and a reliable wide receiver
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: as a backup. He's no rock star, but he's a competitor.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: The media ruined his reputation. Well, I agree with most
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: of it. The whole thing about the media ruining his reputation,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I disagree with that. Right, he's not a rock star.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: We know that he's a competitor. Winning is important to him. Uh.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: If you put him with a good offensive line and
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: a reliable running game in a wide receiver and we
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: saw what happened last year, right, he was. There's three
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: games here against the Colts, the Seahawks, and the Texans.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: He was lights out. Had an answer for Ben Roethlisberger
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in the second half in Division a playoff game and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: had them a whistle away from the super Bowl. Right, Um,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the media ruining his reputation. See, I don't think it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the media. Maybe social media. I agree with that, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with it on a national level. All the
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville local media respected Blake, appreciated Blake. He was always
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: honest with us. But then you would someone from a
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: national network coming and they were so pleasantly surprised with
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Blake that it changed their storylines most often. So there
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: was media obviously he was low hanging fruit media media
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that didn't come in here. Yes, national media, but you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: know how stories live on how an idea? Right? I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: mean the first impression. Uh, and someone would watch him
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: play and he wouldn't throw the ball all that well,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: or he throw a pick six or something and it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: would live in infamy on social media. Um. Yeah that there,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there's probably some of that. I don't think Blake would
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: say the media ruined his reputation. I think you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: he stood in the locker room and took the blame himself. Um,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: but I agree. I think he'll find a place as
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: a backup in this game and and be a guy
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: who if he finds the field will get some things
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: done if he's got the talent around him. He was
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: never a guy to lift the team up around him,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: but if the team around him played well, he was
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: capable of contributing and delivering results. Yeah. I don't think
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Blake would say the media ruin his reputation because he's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: never one to make excuses. Even if he did think it,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't say it all right. Up next, the Jaguars
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: are hurting themselves by winning games at this point. Man,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel that way this morning, doesn't. It doesn't know.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: And if you ask anyone in the locker room or
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff, they are not worried about the draft.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: They're worried about keeping their jobs and they want to win.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So big picture, yes, if you're only worried about where
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars are drafting, then yeah they are because the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: playoffs are not a likely outcome no matter how many
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: wins you get. And I'm generally that guy that says, hey, look,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: play well. If you don't win, you know, there's an
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: upside to that, and that is is that you put
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: yourself in position. Um. But if you can talk to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: anyone in the scouting room, anywhere around than the league
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: right now. With the teams that are out of it,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: they don't care about draft position. They they have confidence
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in themselves. They're not just think, by the way, about
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the first round pick. They're thinking about players that they
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: want on their board, specific players that they believe will
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: help them. They'll find a way to go get the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: guys that they want. Yeah. I mean, if you need
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a quarterback and Justin Herbert's the best guy and you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: have to be in the top three to get him, Okay,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: then maybe you're hurting your draft position at that point.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: But they'll find another way. The coaches, yeah, coaches, scouts,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: players don't think about it. Here's why, because your general
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: managers get fired too. Winning and losing matters. And for
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: these guys, they're only focused on winning. Because the guys
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: out there are guys that Dave Caldwell, just to use
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: an example, brought in, if they play well, it reflects
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: better on him then draft position does. And let's be honest,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars have had great draft position in the last
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: seven or eight years and they're still in this position
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of being four and eight. So it is it is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: not it's the quarterback and they've got to find that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and the and the point maybe that the Jaguars are
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: pushing themselves away from the quarterbacks. Yeah, there's a bunch
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of guys who will come into play. Here does the
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Askin's kid from Ohio State come out as a third
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: year sophomore and it just will Greer belong in that conversation,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, the junior at Dukeman. All of that has
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: yet to be decided. Where guys fall. Um, So take
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: a deep breath on that one. Um, Yeah, if you
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: want to be in the top five, they are. But
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the winning feeling that's so important around an NFL team.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You wanted to keep coming? Yeah, you wanted to keep coming. Uh,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: here's an interesting one. Here's why I mentioned in the picture.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Kaepernick could be a good bridge quarterback in twenty nineteen,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: cheap with upside. But if he plays poorly, he can
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: be unceremoniously benched for a rookie quarterback. That's the storyline
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you want with your team, not so not so, not
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: so certain about how cheap he's going to be. Um,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: let's take on the field stuff and leave the off
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the field for just a moment. Um. You know, I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: went back and looked at these numbers in his final
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: three years in San Francisco, um and numbers can be
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: deceiving because he didn't play fun dominal football. In fact,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: at one point he was benched for Blaine Gabbert and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: we we and Jacksonville have a unique perspective on what
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: that means. But he had forty one touchdowns in twenty
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: one interceptions, completed six of his passes. So he's certainly
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: capable of being a quarterback who can't come in and deliver.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: We've seen the legs, We've seen the arm I get it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing with him. Do you want to deal
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: with all the off the field stuff right? Do you
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: want to have CNN parked outside of your front gate
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: for the next six months? You may or you may not.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, it all depends on whether or not you
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: decide that he can play. So if he fits what
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: you want to do and he can play and you
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: feel it worth and hey, the other thing is this,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: is he committed to football? Right? The question that's been
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: asked by some guys around the league is is he
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: committed to football or is he committed to finding another
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: place where his platform is there for him? To espouse
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: his social social viewpoints. Football is one thing, the social side.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Anyone can have their own platform now, but as he
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: committed to football, Um, you'd have to look at all
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of those things. Um, could he be a good quarterback
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: to bridge the gap? Yeah, I suppose he could. Would
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: he be cheap? I don't know about that. Yeah, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: then of course the side stuff that he brings with
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: all of that, you would have to decide if it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: worth Yeah, you'd have to. There's a lot of issues
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: surrounding him. We'll see if they look at that one,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: depending on where they're sitting in the draft and who's there.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: We got a couple more. I really like this one. Uh,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: this one made me laugh out loud. Jaguars offense would
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: be better without using a quarterback. Do you want to disagree? Right?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, because it's a quarterback league, we're talking about
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: fixing quarterback, fixing everything else. But in a in an
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: era where we're seeing all kinds of crazy offenses, right,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean throwing the ball all over the place. The
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: single wing might be fun maybe for a few players
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a game, but I'm not gonna go with the whole game. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that was more frustration I'm sure than anything else. Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you wildcat offense, mix it up. That was his way
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of saying, choose your quarterback. I don't care. Find me
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: one next year. Uh? Is that editor? We have a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: couple more. I think we have two more? Uh, Colleen
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: injuries to the offensive line and four Nett sunk the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: ship this year. Bortles is just a convenient scapegoat. Honesty
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and truth should be considered Uh. I don't think shouldn't
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: be considerable. I should have shouldn't be considered bold. But
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: in this day and age, I guess they are. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: liked it. Fire me up, Colleen. Honesty and truths Turtles
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: is just a convenient scapegoat for Nett sunk the ship.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yikes's harsh. Well, she's saying injuries to those two injuries
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the offensive line of FORNT sunk shop. Okay, finally, uh,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Tony Bortles will be back on the roster next year
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to give the rookie quarterback we draft a chance to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: catch up. In the NFL. It's not twenty one million
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: for a backup as much as it's four point five
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: for a backup. Sixteen point five million is gone either way. Um,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna seek some clarity on this over the next
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. If Bortles is not on the roster,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: there's five point five million dollars that's not paid. If
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that's the case, then it's only an eleven million dollar
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: cat pit, and you can post June one, cut him
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and you can designate him as that and then you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: take half the hit in and half the hit in twenty.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: So the numbers aren't entirely correct on that deal. Um,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't see this. I mean, I suppose
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it could be the solution if there's not a quarterback
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: out there, but I I just don't see that. Yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: and depending on how Corey Custer case, you can plug
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: him in and use do the same thing with the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: arky quarterback. Keep in mind I said yesterday and I
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: still stand to this. If you want to win over
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the last month, I think Bortles is your best chance.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's a better quarterback. I think he's a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: better athlete. I think he's a better option. But it's
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: clear neither one of these guys is going to be
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the solution here in Jacksonville. And if that's the case,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it makes a lot of sense
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to bring a polarizing figure in his own right in
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Blake Bortles back onto the roster next year. Polarizing, not
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: like Kaepernick, but just that people one of all, if
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you're moving on and you're looking at the rookie, yeah,
• 41:46
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• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Jeff Lockhaman just stepped in and we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee and I Kaepernick Kaepernick on the brain. Apparently No,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: for two reasons. One is they're talking about him now
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: relative to Washington because I know what he saw. But
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Washington lost another quarterback last night. Again, Yeah, they're gonna
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: have Mark Sanchez as their starting quarterback. When we see
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: him or or made the butt recovery last night, some
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: people up there saying, well, now now is where Colin
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Kaepernick goes. And then of course this morning we've got
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: tweets saying, hey, the Jaguar should sign Colin Kaepernick. Um,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen him in a couple of years. You
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: heard me say forty one touchdowns twenty one interceptions in
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: his last three years. If you're looking for a bridge quarterback,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: would you put all the nonsense aside and bring him in.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It just depends on on where he's at, if he
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: wants to play football. Yeah, because you watched him. I mean,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the guy has a cannon for an arm. He's got
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a good arm, But I think his mobility, I think
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: he made him the quarterback that he was. But you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: most most guys, they all start out that way and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: then they've got to find a way to function in
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: the pocket, and I don't know if he necessarily made
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that in a successful transition. That one of the reasons
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I think RG three struggled once he got a couple
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: of years in the league and that he was a sensation.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: He could make things happen with his legs, and then
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: after a while, you've got to You've gotta function in
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the pocket. And I think Lamar Jackson is probably gonna
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: be facing a similar challenge to be able to make
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that transition as well. Didn't he get a concussion his
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: past game? I think you went back into the game,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: end up leaving the game. I think for a little bit.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I think you got checked for one and then RG
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: three came in, and then he went back in. But
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: he better learn to function in the pocket. Quarterbacks don't
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: last long out of the pocket, especially and even even
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: with the new rules today, they don't. Um let's talk
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: about Jaggars quarterback from how much more effective is Cody
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Kessler with Leonard for Nette on the field? No, I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: don't think it's an exaggeration. I think I think any
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: quarterback would be better with your best back on the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: field that I think it's Leonard four Nette, and I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: think the numbers bear that out. Carlos Hide is a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: is a good solid back, but there's a reason why
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: he gets traded for a conditional fifth round pick, you know.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I mean that's the reality. So I think for Nette
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: definitely helps and will it help to where you go, wow,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: look at the improvement with the quarterback change and everything
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: else is with Leonard Fournette is there. I don't know
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: if it's going to be that significant, but it's gonna
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: help any Any solid running game helps quarterback. But I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: think Cody Kessler also this past game. I don't want
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to say that he was being conservative, but maybe he was.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a defense that's playing lights out,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and if you're the quarterback, the last thing in the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: world you want to do screw it up, right, I mean,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: kind of function at a decent level of get a
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: couple of points and defense is playing good enough you
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: can win it. So I miss anything where their receivers
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: running wide open either. Uh. There were some instances, yes,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: that there were some receivers that were open, a couple
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: of tight ends or open and then a couple of
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: shots similar to Blake to where you've got a guy
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: on the outside and one on one situation you've gotta
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: make throw. But for the most part that you know, look,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Indianapolis plays more zone than any other team in the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: National Football League period, so we we know what happens
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: when you face a team that plays a ton of
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: zone and especially Cover two. You've got to take what's underneath.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: And so as a quarterback, I think, and especially one
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: that hasn't taken a lot of snaps to continue to
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: believe that something will open up down the field, sometimes
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you can get you can get frustrated by it, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: so your eyes quickly turned and are anxious to find
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the checkdown or anything else because that's what you're expecting.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: So there were certain times that he didn't stick with
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: his eyes down the field far. I think also his
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: clock was going really fast. In other words, he drops
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: back into the pocket, especially, and it was evident when
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: he was in the end zone and he's what didn't
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: want to take a safety and he runs up into
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the rush because he's worried about taking a sack of safety.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But there were other cases that were just like that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: that we're on the field of play to where either
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: he's looking quickly to find the checkdown or he's looking
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: quickly to find a place to escape and run. Because
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: how many rushes did he had in the ball game?
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: He had like I think four or five rushes I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: think in the game, and he was sacked I think
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: three times. But if you look at it, I mean
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: those rushes that are for one yard or two yards
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: are kind of semi sacks. And that's always been the
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: kind of criticism with Cody Kessler. Well, for me watching
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the game, I was like, Oh, the offensive line isn't
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: playing well. But then I heard you say the offensive
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: line actually played well. It was just Cody couldn't make
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: up his mind. It was fine. I thought the offensive line,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: looking considering with where they're at, I thought they did
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: a pretty good job. Now there were times that Marcus
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Hunt was dominant up front and they couldn't run the ball.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And boy, what a smart move by the Colts because
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: he was a defensive end for many years with Cincinnati Bengals.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: They get him and they actually put him at defensive
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: end to begin with. Now they've transitioned him to a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: one technique nose tackle and he's a big, tall, strong,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: long arms, and I could be honest with he crushed
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: in Shatley a couple of times. I mean just walking
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: him into the backfield. But I mean overall, I thought
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the offensive line did a good job. I thought Patrick
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: o Mommy had a nice game. And then even when
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Patrick Omamy had to go to right tackle for Jeremy Parnell,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: when he had to go out of the game for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and then Chris Reid came into left guard,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: that they did fine. Offensive line I think did fine. Uh.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Backs have to be better. Quarterbacks have to be better
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback singator because there's not more than one playing UH,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and wide receiver's got to be better. We have spent
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about the secondary, So how
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: about some quick thoughts on Yeah, and you mean you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: came in after the game, we were talking about it. Uh,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: your your impressions of Ronnie Harrison. I mean everyone is
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: dazzled by the sack. How did he play in coverage? Well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I would like to think that anybody could make that
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: play on the sack. I give that credit more to
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Todd Walsh, the defensive coordinator than I do Ronnie Harrison,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: because I think excellent and me and from you, Brian,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: we could all have an opportunity making sect when you're on.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that I really liked
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: about that play by him was that he had an
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: awareness to not to just absolutely hit the quarterback in
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the head or to do something thing to draw a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: personal foul call. So I think great awareness on that.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen a little bit
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: more ball awareness where he's trying to get the ball out,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: but a good play. Nonetheless, there was only I think one,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: maybe two plays that I thought he was a little
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: indecisive and didn't quite know what to do, and one
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: of them could have resulted in a touchdown, and he
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: was very fortunate. Was the drive that the Jaguars had
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: two personal fouls on and then they're going down to
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the end zone and there was a dump off that
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: was thrown underneath and he comes up and rallies and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: helps make the tackle short of the goal line. Well,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: there was a guy standing in the back of the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: end zone that was wide open that Andrew luck didn't
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: see because that was Ronnie Harrison's guy because he didn't
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: quite know what to do on that play. But for
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the most part, everything else was pretty good. You you
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: went at nausea and you tweeted out about Jalen Ramsey,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So obviously you know, good I'm looking. He's not playing
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: at the level that he did last year. The man
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I submit that. I mean he him and a J
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Boy last year were the top corners in the league period,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and the ratings showed that. And Jalen still has moments
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to where he's just brilliant and he does things that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you just cannot do physically. Other people can't. They can't
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: do it. And I showed two plays last night on
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Jaguars All Excess. One of them was a J Boy
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: who was running the route for the wide receiver, which
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: is incredible because the guy is a student of the game,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and you can watch the film and tell that a
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: J Boys boy a studies. But he was doing that
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: almost all of last year and he hasn't been doing
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that all of this year. And it really showed in
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: this past game that Boyer was outstanding. And Jalen does
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: things like the one that he broke up the past
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to t Y Hilton where he's putting his arm in
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: there and knocking the ball out. That's a three deep zone,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: but it looked like man, right, I mean, how many
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: corners in the league play zone and make it look like, man,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: he's that good and and he's that good because he's
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: backpedaling with t Y. And most people would be scared
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: to death the backpedal with t Y because they don't
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: have the ability to flip the hips and run if
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: t Y goes vertical. So they're already starting to open
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the hips, and then when t Y comes back to
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the ball, that's where the separation occurs. But because Jalen
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: is so confident and he has the ability and the
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: confidence is rightly so. Because he's got the ability, he
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't even turn his hips. He literally is backpedaling the
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: whole way and then starts to open him a little bit.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: And then that's when t Y shuts it down and
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to come back to the quarterback. And Jalen has the
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: ability to put the brakes on and then go that
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: way in an instant and then he has he's been
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: given the gift of length and then to dig the
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: ball out. People can't do that. And that's that's the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: thing I think that's so impressive about Jail And because
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: he has a gift, I mean, God has blessed him
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: with with incredible gifts. Um one more guy in defense
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Marcel Darius, who on the sack by Harrison picked up
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the center and walked him back. Yeah, which was impressive.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: But I gotta say this in defense of being the center, Okay,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he got wasn't being the center, was actually the right
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: guard Lewinsky. I think it was on that play and
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Baying the center stepped on his foot, So it makes
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: it makes Marcel Darius look like the incredible haul And
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that we kind of
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: take it back to reality and that Yeah, I mean
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: it was a great play. I mean he looks incredibly strong,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and look, most guys in the National Football League can't
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: push a guy back even after his foot has been
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: stepped on like that, because Darius is incredibly strong. But
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: you gotta recognize the fact that he did Lyneman did
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: get stepped on. All right, Thursday Night, Nashville, you're Todd wash.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: How do you counter Marcus Mariotta, who the numbers say
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: it's not all that tough. But the reality is is
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: that in the fourth quarter, with the ball in his hands,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: he finds a way to get eight when he needs
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: seven when throw a touchdown pass into double coverage. Yeah,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: but but go back to earlier in the drive. And
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: what did he do early in that drive? He had
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a twenty seven year old run. That's Mark Marcus Mariotta.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: That's the X factor that the Jaguars have had some
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: issues to kind of with all year long, with mobile quarterbacks,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Shellon being one of them, recently with the Buffalo game.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: But that's the challenge of Mariota. And in the past
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: he's hurt the Jaguars with his legs and with his arm.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: It appears that the numbness that he had in his
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: hands is gone because he's throwing the ball better. He
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: is also finding and getting the ball into the hands
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: of a very good football player in Corey Davis. And
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he was the one who had the game winning touchdown
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: for Tennessee. But look, Tennessee, is it's good. They're They're
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: not world beaters. Do you know that that was the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the only third down the touchdown the game when he
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: touched that was the only third down they converted the
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: whole game, you know? So uh. And defensively for them,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: they're not playing at the level that we saw earlier
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: in the year. The coverage is not as as great.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: The front is still pretty good with Jaral Casey up front.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: They're playing more of Evans, the linebacker, the rookie draft
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: pick from Alabama. I think we saw him in three.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: He's playing now and he's playing a bunch. So combining
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: him with uh would your uh would would, you're two
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: good players. They play hard, they play fast on defense,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: but they're just okay. I mean, they're they're one of
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: the better defenses in the league. But I don't think
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: it's anything to be fearful of. But the reality is
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: is that, you know, one of the better defenses in
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: the league is probably capable of holding the Jaguars to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: ten points or less because of the Jaguars offense, not
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: because of the great defense. And the question is, can
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: this defense go pitch another game, like maybe not a shutout,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: but can they go and create turnovers and sacks and
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: keep it close? Well, that's that's gonna be. That's a
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: tall task to do on the road in a short week,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and and that that that concerns me. On the road
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: short week when they're playing for the playoffs, you're not.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: They have had great success against you recently, and is
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that a mental thing or you know, But here's the thing.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Another way you could look at it. If you're a
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Jaguars player, this is an incredible challenge. They were talking
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: crap about you all of last year that they're into
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the South when you won the division, but she didn't
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: beat him. And then this year they came into your
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: house and worked you and now they're in the playoff hunt.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: So if if I'm a Jaguar player, this is a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: kind of this is personal, and this is personal on
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: a couple fronts personal and that they talked a lot
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: of crap last year and we didn't get the job
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: done at home and number two, this is our opportunity
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: to knock there. But out of the playoffs well, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of players have said that, yeah he can.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Gogway last week said the goal for the rest of
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the season is to ruin team's playoff chances. And I'm
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a firm believer. He's the ring leader of believing it well,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and he went and delivered on Sunday. Yeah, he had
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: a great game. And to go back to that game
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit Withinokway, I thought one of his best
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: games as a pro. And the reason I say that
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: is the criticism of Ingoquay has always been how does
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: he play the run? How physical of a player, will
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: he be the fourth and one at the goal line
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: with the shovel pass. He threw his body around. And
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: when a player starts throwing his body around like that,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I think as a teammate or as a coach, you
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: appreciate that because it means he's willing to sacrifice his
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: body for the greater good of the team. And he
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: was more physical against the tackles in the run game
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: that I've ever seen him. He could have had three
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: sacks in the game. One of them got negated by
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: a holding call by two Shaun Gibson. The other one
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: he thought that Andrew let through it on a on
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a little kind of a bootleg pass that uh, he
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: ended up letting him go, you know, So he could
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: have had three sacks in that game. He was He
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: was dynamite. Final thought, Thursday Night Football is a long
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: time member of the executive Committee the Players Association and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a player rep for your teams. Um locker room lawyer,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: if you asked Tom call, yeah, yeah, that was my
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: next one. And I mean that very highly. My twin
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: brothers in Newserity, I think very highly of those folks.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Um your thoughts on Thursday Night Football. The short week
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: getting ready. Uh you like it? Don't like it? What
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: do you think? Well, I mean I think as a player,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: you like it because it's an opportunity to be the
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: only game on and you know that all of your
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: or you know, guys in the National Football League are watching,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and I think that's that motivates you. The younger player,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the younger Jeff Logman in early early days of his
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: career would be like, let's go, let's go, you know,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, give me a shot of Towar it All
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and let's rock. Well, the tour it All is not
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: available anymore, which is you know, an anti inflammatory pain
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: killer that we would take before games. And uh, the
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: older Jeff Logman going, you know what, I'm not quite
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: ready to do this. Uh, but yeah, it's fun. It's
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I think you get motivated. If it's only one a year,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: which is which is what it is, you can find
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: a way to suck it up. But typically as a player,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: when you're when your your body as far as the
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: clock on your bodies, that you play a game on
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday, you actually feel okay, money you can
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: go in and you can work out, and then Tuesday
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: you feel like crap. Now you feel like you have
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: been beat up, literally beat up, and you have been
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and then Wednesday you start to try to get the
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: kinks out. By Thursday you're like, you know, I'm almost there,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: And the Friday you're like, you know what I'm I'm
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: about ready to go. I'm about ready to go. And
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: then Saturday like, yeah, I'm ready to go. So now
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: you're trying to shorten all that and then condense a
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: game plan in a short period of time. So I mean,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: from a game plan perspective, it's very simple. But the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: challenges is the physical aspect of getting a body ready
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: to play on a Thursday night without the aid of
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: modern medicine. That's the part that I have a hard
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: time wrapping my mind because we had such a great
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: tool school because once you got the shot, and I
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: hate to say it, I mean, look, there's doctors out
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: there that I know what I'm talking about. I mean,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you a story about tour it all real quick.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I know the story. It's a good one. And uh,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: and there were we would take it for before the
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: game essentially, but and this is one of them. You
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: might not have heard from me. This is a friend
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: of mine who broke his back, had a serious back injury,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: was in a hospital, had a major back operation. After
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: This is after guy that played football for a long time,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: and of course he knew about toward All because of
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: his playing days, and so he's he's in the hospital
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and this is post playing career, major back surgery and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: he he said, he goes, I'm he told me, said,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: I'm out of my mind. I can't sleep. I haven't
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: slept in and like he said, it was going on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: day three and they're giving him morphine. The morphine thing
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that with the button, and so he said, he's doing
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the button, doing the button, doing the button, and he's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: not sleeping. And so he literally he said, he is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: going crazy. He said. The doctor comes in and the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: doctor puts his hand on his arm and goes, how
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: are you doing. He says, I think I might almost
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: broke his arm. He said that guy looked at the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: doctor and he said, give me some all please, And
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: so the doctor gave a shot at toward All and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: and my friend said, he says, immediately, let sleep. Wow.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: So here you're we're talking about something that morphine wasn't fixing,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and it toward All was and so it's probably a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: good thing that the league said, you know what, we're
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: gonna stop. Every of those days are over. Jeff Logan,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: thanks so much. I appreciate you. Every Tuesday here on
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the show Short Week. You'll hear him on Thursday night
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: as the Jaguars take on the Tigers. That'll do it
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: for our show for Ashlyn and Jeff, Joe and Stone
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Cold in the other room. We'll sign off. Have a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: great day, everybody. Don't forget. Happy Hour comes your way
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: this afternoon at four o'clock Eastern time. Have a great day.