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This Man Turned Plastic Into Fuel… And It Could Save the World‼️ | Julian Brown · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: Plastic has more energy in it than the fuel that
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  Speaker 1: we have in this world. If we can turn this
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  Speaker 1: into a valuable item that we know is so valuable
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  Speaker 1: because we go to war and kill each.
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  Speaker 2: Other over it, now you're thinking, like, let me change
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody had made a solar microwave pyalysis reactor anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I built this. I know it works, but why is
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  Speaker 1: this not adopted in the world? And then my phone is.
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  Speaker 3: Completely hacked and they had complete access to my phone
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out, like, is this a physical prit
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  Speaker 3: is my life of risk and my family's life at risk?
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  Speaker 1: And then I felt these really deep vibrations to my
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  Speaker 1: old body. It was a helicopter flying over and the
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  Speaker 1: spotlight was zodly shined directly into the windshield of my bag.
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  Speaker 1: I was getting ready to just drive off that night
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  Speaker 1: because I'm like, what is going on? This was a
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  Speaker 1: funded organization, funded by some nations government to do this.
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  Speaker 3: That was a team, and that was an expensive attack.
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  Speaker 3: It did look like a kidnapping situation.
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  Speaker 1: I'll keep it real.
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  Speaker 2: The plastic issue here is pandemic. So we thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I said, we got to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: say that all times.
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  Speaker 3: My diesel makes more power than diesel from the punk,
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  Speaker 3: makes less smoke, it burns cleaner.
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  Speaker 1: Coca Cola did not pat the Coca Cola formula.
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  Speaker 3: Why because if they patented in the formula, everybody would
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  Speaker 3: know it.
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  Speaker 1: The key is being first to market.
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  Speaker 4: You writing a book telling people how to do what
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  Speaker 4: you did. Yeah, but you're not gonna put everything in it.
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  Speaker 4: You got the trade secrets.
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  Speaker 1: When I read that book, I want to tell people
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  Speaker 1: how to do the machine and that means everything. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back, ey l. This is the futuristic version for sure,
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  Speaker 1: when we're in twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, very fitting for sure. So we got very very
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  Speaker 4: very very special guests. The good brother Julian Alexander Brown.
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  Speaker 4: We actually met at Investfest last year.
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  Speaker 1: It was a surprise. I didn't know he was going
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  Speaker 1: to be there.
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  Speaker 4: We were signing books and if in the marketplace and
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  Speaker 4: turned around some one of the beauty of the invest Fest.
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  Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna be there. Turned around, he
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  Speaker 1: was there, and we.
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  Speaker 4: Just chopped it up and then I believe he came
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  Speaker 4: to the VIP night after that. It was around for
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  Speaker 4: the weekend. So if you if you're not familiar with Julian.
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  Speaker 4: He's the gentleman he's been going to viral on social
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  Speaker 4: media for turning plastic to pretty much gasoline that can
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  Speaker 4: be used for cars, for cars to run on, which
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  Speaker 4: you know, we about especially now it's timely with everything
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  Speaker 4: that's been going on in the Middle East, Iran, the
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  Speaker 4: price of oil, the price of gas, and it's been
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  Speaker 4: it's always been an issue, but it's it's becoming even
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  Speaker 4: more of an issue people not being able to you know,
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  Speaker 4: travel because the price of gas is so high and
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  Speaker 4: so much discomfort that comes from that, and from an
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  Speaker 4: environmental standpoint as well, environmental impact that so many gas
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  Speaker 4: emissions have on the environment.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, that's been talked about for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 4: So we're talking about STEM a lot in our community, science, technology, engineering, mathematics,
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  Speaker 4: and this really encompasses all of that. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: talking to an entrepreneur, but an inventor, somebody that's a
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  Speaker 4: pioneer in the space, somebody that's a scientific genius.
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  Speaker 1: So we got a lot to talk about. So first
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  Speaker 1: of all, well, thank you for joining us, but I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it absolutely. Thank you guys for having me.
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  Speaker 5: The first time we met I said, I turned around
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  Speaker 5: you with it. I said, look, we got before we
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  Speaker 5: even said hello. I said, we got to protect you
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  Speaker 5: at all. Course, and I feel even stronger because of
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  Speaker 5: the mission that you're on. Your brilliance and your innovation
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  Speaker 5: is something that's revolutionary. So I'm happy to get here.
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  Speaker 5: I'm happy that you're safe, and we're gonna make sure
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  Speaker 5: that you stayed headway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So where does it start?
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  Speaker 4: Can you walk us through the churin I caught up
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  Speaker 4: with you on social media. I'm sure everybody else did
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. I think you have you
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  Speaker 4: like over a million followers, huh.
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  Speaker 1: When I was an invest festal last year, I think
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  Speaker 1: that was at about two million. Right now? What are
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  Speaker 1: you collectively about seven seven million followers? So, but where
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  Speaker 1: does it start?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 4: How do you actually get into science? How do you
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  Speaker 4: get into having this idea? Like what's what's the journey
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  Speaker 4: from growing up to get in here?
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  Speaker 1: So I was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and then I
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  Speaker 1: moved down to Georgia when I was about five years old,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been in Georgia ever since, in the suburbs
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  Speaker 1: suburbs just outside of Atlanta. Now my entire life, I
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  Speaker 1: always been a kinesthetic person.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be building with lego blocks, using my mind take
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  Speaker 1: things apart, and I always kind of had a calling
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  Speaker 1: that I was going to do something deeper for the world.
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  Speaker 1: Like when I was four years old, I told my
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  Speaker 1: mom that I'm going to build something that's going to
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  Speaker 1: change the world. I know what, I just told her that.
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  Speaker 1: She never forgot those words. But for most of my life,
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  Speaker 1: up until tenth grade, I didn't really have anything particular
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  Speaker 1: that I was doing outside of typical hobbies like I
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  Speaker 1: was in karate and stuff. Anyway, tenth grade environmental science class,
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  Speaker 1: they played us a clip of the ocean and the
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  Speaker 1: plastic problem, and they talked about how they don't recycle plastic,
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  Speaker 1: the oceans are horrible, all this and all that, and
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  Speaker 1: in my head I was thinking, well, I'm not contributing
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  Speaker 1: to the ocean plastic because since fifth grade I had
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  Speaker 1: been encouraging my parents to pay for recycling. So I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's only the people that aren't recycling they're contributing to that.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the end of this documentary they said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, less than one percent of plastic actually
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  Speaker 1: gets recycled, So even if you throw it in the
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  Speaker 1: recycled bin, it's still ended up in the ocean anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, so explain that I'm recycled. I recycle ataw too.
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  Speaker 4: You said less than one percent of the plastic that
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  Speaker 4: gets recycled ends up.
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  Speaker 1: So you throw one hundred water bottles in a recycle bin,
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  Speaker 1: you're lucky if one gets recycled.
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Ninety nine go landfill or ocean? Why? Because the very
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  Speaker 1: issue is in how we do recycling currently. So current
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  Speaker 1: plastic recycling is called mechanical recycling. We're taking like one
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  Speaker 1: water bottle and turning it into another water bottle. The
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  Speaker 1: issue is you can't. It can't be contaminated, it can't
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  Speaker 1: be mixed with too many other type of plastics, and
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  Speaker 1: it only works on certain types of plastics because, of course,
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  Speaker 1: nobody wants to to consume a piece of plastic that
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  Speaker 1: is like dirty, right, it's not, you know, it needs
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  Speaker 1: to be like new, almost virgin again. And so the
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  Speaker 1: issue in that lies in the fact that that let's
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  Speaker 1: take for example, a typical water bottle, it has three
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  Speaker 1: different types of plastic on it. You have the water
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  Speaker 1: bottle body itself that's polyethyl terraphylate, the wrap is polyethylene
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  Speaker 1: that gives the label, and then the cap is polypropylene.
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  Speaker 1: That's three different types of plastic. And when you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to mechanically recycle plastic, you can't just throw that whole
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  Speaker 1: water bottle into a machine, but somebody has to individually
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  Speaker 1: go in and separate each one of those individual plastics
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  Speaker 1: out and put those into their own respective areas. And
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  Speaker 1: then of course the bottle also has glue on it
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  Speaker 1: that you know, wraps the label on. Now that glue
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  Speaker 1: is an issue because that's contaminating when they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: make a fresh new piece of plastic. So you could see,
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  Speaker 1: it becomes a logistical nightmare really quick. And we're not
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  Speaker 1: even talking about things like chip bags, which have plastic
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  Speaker 1: line on the outside, aluminum liner on the inside, and
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  Speaker 1: then grease from whatever you know, food was in there,
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  Speaker 1: or like condiment containers, you know, like that never truly
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  Speaker 1: get cleaned out. And so the truth is they don't
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  Speaker 1: really recycle, and when they do you actually recycle. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what happens. You can only recycle like a water bottle
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  Speaker 1: or a coke bottle so many times, it's about six
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  Speaker 1: or seven times. And then if the plastic becomes so
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  Speaker 1: brittle and weak, the only thing you can do with
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  Speaker 1: it at that point it's like make a rug out
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  Speaker 1: of it, a cheap plastic rug. And that cheap plastic rug, well,
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  Speaker 1: eventually that's going to get down away. What happens to
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  Speaker 1: that it can't be recycled anymore. It reaches the end
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  Speaker 1: of life. So the very issue is in how the
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  Speaker 1: system has been set up. It's not a circular system.
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  Speaker 1: It's not true recycling. It's almost more of a band aid.
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  Speaker 1: The issue is this, they don't recycle most of plastic.
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  Speaker 1: So many people have stories that they're like, I see
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  Speaker 1: the recycled truck go through the same place the landfill
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  Speaker 1: truck goes to. Right, So many people have these stories.
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  Speaker 1: The oceans look the way they do. But here's the issue.
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  Speaker 1: Recycling is a billion dollar industry, plastic recycling. Okay, why
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  Speaker 1: are they making billions of dollars if they're not actually
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  Speaker 1: recycling Because they've been telling people for years, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pay this thirty dollars a month, throw your plastic in
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  Speaker 1: the recycling bin, will recycle it. But they haven't been
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  Speaker 1: recycling it, have been sending all this plastic to China.
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  Speaker 1: In China, I believe it was twenty fifteen. Well, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, they weren't really recycling it themselves because they
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  Speaker 1: don't even have environmental standards like that. But then in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I believe China said no, we're done taking
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  Speaker 1: your plastic. But now the recycling companies still had to
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  Speaker 1: keep up the line and they were really just throwing
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  Speaker 1: it away or sending it to other nation developing nations
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  Speaker 1: that would end up just either burning this plastic or
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  Speaker 1: throwing it in rivers, which ends up in the ocean.
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  Speaker 5: It's interest because I saw a few clips over the
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  Speaker 5: past couple of years that they were sending it to
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  Speaker 5: China and they were figuring out a way to use
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  Speaker 5: that plastic to turn it into energy. I want to
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  Speaker 5: just backtrap before we go that far. You're environmental science,
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  Speaker 5: you watched this documentary. What then sparks you to say,
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  Speaker 5: all right, I'm going to make the change. I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to figure something out. Because most people, and we all
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  Speaker 5: sat in the environmental science, we just can't wait till
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  Speaker 5: we get to physic you know, like that's right, good,
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  Speaker 5: thinking like let me change the world, like what was
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  Speaker 5: the piece and how receptive are your peers to this
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  Speaker 5: idea at the time.
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  Speaker 1: So in that class, that's where the idea sparked. That's
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  Speaker 1: where in my mind I started to be like that
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  Speaker 1: is wrong, Like that's not right. I didn't feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: anymore ever since that. But actually nothing actually came from
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  Speaker 1: that that moment in tenth grade. Nothing happened into two
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  Speaker 1: years after that, my senior year. At this point, I
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  Speaker 1: was in a welding program in high school, so I
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  Speaker 1: had learned how to weld put together machines, and then
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  Speaker 1: I had an accident happened where one of my peers
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  Speaker 1: actually ended up stabbing me with a knife on my
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  Speaker 1: right thumb and it ended up severing my tendon so
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't use my thumb for mumps. And then, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I always been kinesthetic, you know, I was gardening, welding,
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  Speaker 1: making jewelry, blah blah blah, So that was always an
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  Speaker 1: outlook for me. But after not having mobility in my hand,
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  Speaker 1: I almost fell into a depression. But I didn't let
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  Speaker 1: myself get into that depressive state because instead I kind
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  Speaker 1: of it was like, Okay, I can't build things for
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  Speaker 1: once in my life, but I can work on things
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  Speaker 1: in my mind. And then that in that space, it
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  Speaker 1: allowed me to kind of go back to that time
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  Speaker 1: of thinking about like what I was passionate about and
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  Speaker 1: like what I wanted to do in this world. And
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  Speaker 1: it took me back to that environmental science class because
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I saw that documentary and at the
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  Speaker 1: end of it when they told us they don't recycle,
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  Speaker 1: I actually kind of felt doomed because that was the
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  Speaker 1: end of the documentary. It wasn't you know, Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: don't recycle, but here's what we are doing. Here's a solution. No,
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  Speaker 1: that was it, and I'm like, and I remember there
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  Speaker 1: are a few of the students in the class at
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  Speaker 1: the moment that were like, that's something that's really messed up.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, being in that place, I went back to
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  Speaker 1: that place because, like I said, it never left me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, what can I do about this
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  Speaker 1: plastic problem because clearly there's not anything being done properly,
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  Speaker 1: And so I truly was just coming from a place
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  Speaker 1: of like almost looking at it like if I don't
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  Speaker 1: do something, I don't think anything will be done. Because,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, two years had already passed at that
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  Speaker 1: point and it was still the same issue. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it got worse because when they showed us a documentary,
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  Speaker 1: it was like three percent or less of plastic it
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  Speaker 1: gets recycled. By the time I was doing research two
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  Speaker 1: years later, it dropped down to one percent. Now, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's even below that. So anyway, it literally was
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  Speaker 1: as simple as me just looking up on Google, because
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  Speaker 1: this is before AI. I just looked up, like, why
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  Speaker 1: are they not recycling plastic? All right, but let's play
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  Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate everything. I just told you guys about the
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  Speaker 1: mechanical recycling the contamination. So I was like, okay, well
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  Speaker 1: that's that's not how it's gonna work. That's just not
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  Speaker 1: the solution, clearly. And so then I looked up how
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  Speaker 1: can we recycle plastic in other ways? And then there
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  Speaker 1: was two ways that popped up. It said incineration, like
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  Speaker 1: burning it, and I'm like, well, that's not a good solution.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we already see that happening. Air pollution is horrible.
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  Speaker 1: And then it said pyrolysis, So what is that pyrolysis?
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  Speaker 1: Because mind you, I almost felt chemistry class they put
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  Speaker 1: me an honors chemistry in ninth grade, and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: with it. So I'm like, what is pyrolysis? And then
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  Speaker 1: so I looked up pyrolysis and it said it said, well,
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  Speaker 1: in Greek it broke it down pyro and lysis it
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  Speaker 1: means pyro means heat, licnus means to break apart, to
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  Speaker 1: break apart with heat. And I'm like, isn't that just
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  Speaker 1: burning something? But it said no, burning something in the
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  Speaker 1: absence of oxygen or breaking something apart in the absence
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  Speaker 1: of oxygen with heat rather, And I'm like, okay, what
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  Speaker 1: does that have to do with plastic? So then I
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  Speaker 1: started to think in my head, I'm like, okay, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, what is plastic? Right, Like what is it?
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys know what it is? Like? What is
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  Speaker 1: it made of? Petroleum?
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  Speaker 2: It is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not common knowledge. Most people do not know that.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the craziest part. Plastic is now considered the
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  Speaker 1: most common material in this world, but most people don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what it's made of. Like we all know
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  Speaker 1: what paper is made of, but not everybody knows what
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  Speaker 1: plastic is made of. It's made of petroleum, and we
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  Speaker 1: all seen it. That's why it burns so well. As
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  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, on a chemical level, it's essentially
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  Speaker 1: the solid form of crude oil. So much Soto And
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  Speaker 1: just like how we all know a solid is the
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  Speaker 1: most dense form, meaning it has the most energy in it.
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  Speaker 1: So I did research and I was like, plastic is
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  Speaker 1: made a petroleum. And then I found this chart that
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  Speaker 1: showed the energy bonds of plastic versus gasoline versus diesel,
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  Speaker 1: and and then it turned out plastic has more energy
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  Speaker 1: in it than the fuel that we have in this world.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, WHOA. I was starting to
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  Speaker 1: get a little bit confused now because I'm like, if
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  Speaker 1: this is so common knowledge, I can just look this up.
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  Speaker 1: How come we, for one don't all know about this
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  Speaker 1: and we aren't doing this? And then I tied it
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  Speaker 1: back in because then I said, okay, so plastic has
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  Speaker 1: made a petroleum. Now you're talking about you can recycle
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  Speaker 1: plastic through pyrolysis. And then in pyrolysis, guess what, you
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  Speaker 1: turn that plastic back into crude oil, back into fuel.
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  Speaker 1: That's what pyrolysis is. And then now it all started
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  Speaker 1: to cook together and make sense. Now I'm like that
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  Speaker 1: this sounds like the proper type of recycling turning plastic,
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  Speaker 1: not burn it or turning it into rugs, but turning
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  Speaker 1: it into an actual useful and valuable item. Because the
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  Speaker 1: number one reason why we don't recycle plastic is because
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  Speaker 1: it's cheaper to just make new plastic, and then you
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  Speaker 1: get better quality plastic anyway when you make it fresh
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  Speaker 1: from new plastic anyway, So it makes no sense to recycle.
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  Speaker 1: But if we can turn this into a valuable item
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  Speaker 1: that we know is so valuable because we go to
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  Speaker 1: war and kill each other over it, now that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And it actually made me even more upseent in that
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  Speaker 1: moment when I found that out, because I'm like I
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  Speaker 1: at this point, I'm seventeen years old in high school,
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  Speaker 1: in welding class, just looking stuff up on Google, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, why is it? Why is this something I
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  Speaker 1: have to go after to look up? Why aren't we
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  Speaker 1: already just doing this in the world. So and then
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  Speaker 1: that made me say, I'm building one. I'm building one.
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  Speaker 1: And so I looked up like this in the same
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  Speaker 1: prompt how to build a plastic pyrolysis reactor boom Instructible's
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  Speaker 1: link came up on Google, and then there was somebody
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  Speaker 1: that built like a little chamber on his stove.
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  Speaker 2: Did they exist? Yeah, okay, they existed. So that's where
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  Speaker 2: you got the I.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't invent pyrolysis. I did not invent plastic. Pyrolysis, the
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  Speaker 1: process of turning plastic back into crude oil, existed the
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  Speaker 1: day that plastic existed. Because pyrolysis is a process that
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  Speaker 1: existed since the beginning of Earth. So when you here's
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: how it works. When you have something heated without air
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: and oxygen, it doesn't catch on fire. It actually breaks
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: down into oil. And so this is what Earth does
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: to make crude oil. To begin with, a whole bunch
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: of organic matter gets buried under the surface. There's no
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: oxygen down there. We know it's hot down there, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: it breaks down into oil. That's why we have oil
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: and gas pockets under the earth. Earth has been doing
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: this process. This is biomimicry. But nonetheless, I looked up
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: how to build a reactor. It pulled up and I'm like, okay,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I could build that. I'm a welder, you know this
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: is simple. It's just like a literally like a pot
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: with pipes coming off of it. So I did that.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I built the first one seventeen years old, senior year
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: because I gradu I started school year early. So anyway,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I built the first one in welding class because my
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: welding teacher, I got ahead of everybody, so my thumb
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: heels I started the weld again. I got ahead of everybody.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And then the last month of class, I built this
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: reactor and it barely worked, but it did and I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: made a little bit of an oil and then I
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, this is legit. This is a
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: real thing. And then from that point I was always
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: playing Devil's Advocate because I'm like, Okay, I built this
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and I know it works, but why is this not
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: adopted in the world, Because I realized this is a
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: very inefficient process. Because here's how it typically works in
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: the world. This is how every current and present paralysis
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: manufacturer does it. On a small scale or a large scale.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: They have a vessel where plastic goes into, right, they
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: close it off to where there's no air. You can't
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: have oxygen oral so you just catch on fire. Then
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: they have a burner like a gas burner that's heating
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: up that container from the outside to then you know
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: heat up the plastic on the inside to then break
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it down. The plastic turns into a petroleum vapor. That
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: vapor then goes through the pipes, and then the vapor
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the pipes cool down the vapor until it becomes a
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: liquid again do condensation. That's called traditional pyrolysis. It's very slow,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: very inefficient, and you have to burn gas to even
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: do the process. So I'm like, this is not going
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to work. And then this is where I started to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: innovate because I thought to myself, what are faster ways
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of heating up something, faster ways of breaking down something
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: with heat? Looking around my house, you know, saw the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: oven saw like an airfire, and like airfire is fast,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: but that won't work because you can't have air. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: looked at the microwave and I'm like, now that that's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: a fast way of heating things up. And this is
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: all happening. This is my gap. I had a gap
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: year after I graduated because I was telling my parents, like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this is what I want to work on. So I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was eighteen at this point. And then it was one
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: night just looking around the kitchen thinking like that, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I looked at the microwave and I said I want
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to make a reactor that of microwaves. So I started
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to do research into that, the same thing, looking up
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: on Google microwave hyrolysis reactors of plastic and I'm starting
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to find resources. But it's starting to become more scarce now.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: It's not as easy to just look up how to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: build a microwave paralysis reactor. As a matter of fact,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: when I built my first one, nobody on Earth had
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: in a backyard scale put one together and put the
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: instructions online that had not been done. The only resources
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: for a microwave paralysis reactor or universities and then pilot
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: scale companies that had like million dollar funding to like
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: do research into building one. So there were no guides
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to build a microwave paralysis reactor. I had to break
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it down to the where I'm like, Okay, how do
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you take a part of microwave oven? How do you
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: take apart the magnetron and the microwave oven that's what
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: makes the microwaves. How do you implement that onto a
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: chamber where you can have microwaves enter a reactor? How
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: do you take apart the power supply system from a
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: microwave oven, which produces enough voltage to kill you instantly,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and how do you safely integrate this onto a homemade reactor?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And I had to do trialing error. I literally was
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: going and pick up up microwaves from the scrap yard,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: taking them apart, and then just looking up YouTube guides.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like doing the wiring, the circuitry all that. I'm
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: not an electrician at all. I went to school for welding.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I was teaching myself all that just by a little
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: trialing error, because there was no guide to build the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: whole thing, but there were always these guides for little
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: individual components, like how to build them.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: They're not doing this in the lab, No, I'm in my.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Parents' backyard at this point eighteen years old, okay, okay.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: And so after about a month and a half, because
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, after I graduated, I actually got a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: job to work at the same welding school that I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: went to. I was an assistant instructor, so my actual
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: instructor would let me build these reactors while I would
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: after I got the students ahead on their work and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: stuff and they didn't need me to oversee them. So anyway,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I built this called Mark one. This was the first
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: microwave pyrolysis reactor. That it was a square machine that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: literally could have fit in my lap, Like this is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: like a crockpot about the size. And this was the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: first one to operate off of microwaves. And this could
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: literally be seen on any of my my social media's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: bit this machine. When I built it and I put
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: it together, you know, it was all built on a
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: theory of like this is going to be more efficient,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: this is gonna work better. I didn't know, but I'll
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: say it like this. For instance, when I had that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: first machine I ever built that used traditional pyrolysis, where
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you know you would heat it up with a gas flame.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: The uh there, it would take about two hours before
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you know from me when you first turn on the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: gas flame to before you really start to see a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: lot of vapors forming for the plastic to break down
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: into the petroleum vapors. Right about two hours of heating up.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Because it's a slow process, how.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Long util it cools to turn the liquid.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Uh So as soon as you see vapors coming out,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you can cool them to turn them into the liquid.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: The first sign that you need is you need to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: see vapors because without vapors. There's nothing too cool down,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: so that's what you want to see first, the plastic
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: breaking down into that petrollium vapor. Okay, I turned on
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: my microwave paralysis reactor for the first time. Guess how
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: long it took. I want both of you to guess
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: about how long it took before I start to see
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: vapors after it turned on. Thirty minutes. Okay, thirty minutes.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go lower than that. I'll say five minutes.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Vapors formed instantly. The second I turned it on. Vapors
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: were already coming out, and I'm like, oh, this is it,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: because I myself saw two hours an hour and a half.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Two hours was how long it took before to even
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: see vapors. The microwaves work through what's called volumemetric heating.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That's heating from the inside out. That's why you throw
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: like a hot pocket in the microwave. If it doesn't
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: cook right, the inside will be hot as hell, burn you,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: but the outside is cold. Microaps heat from the inside out,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and that's way more efficient because before you had a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: gas flame on the outside that was hitting a container
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: from the outside that would then conduct into the plastic,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and then plastic would have to spread the heat to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: other plastic, which is an insulator. Microwaves just heat up
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: just what you want, just to plastic. And so at
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that point I knew this is how we have to
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: do it, because there was another advantage that I didn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: even really think about it at that moment, and that
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: is that microwaves operate off of electricity, which means this
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: could operate off of any form of electricity, whether that's solar, wind, nuclear,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We have no limitation now. So then
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: at that point there were a few issues with that rendition,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: so that I built another one, Mark two, which was
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: like the same type of machine, but it was circular
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: because I figured out in doing research there's a reason
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: why every pressure vessel and gas truck ever has a cylinder.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Is a cylinder, not a square, because it's just for
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: pressure and ceiling it's easier. So I built the same
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: machine but circular, this time Mark two, which was once
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: again small, like literally the size of the crock pot
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: could fit on your lap. And then after that I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: realized another big issue I had was, Okay, I'm throwing
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: plastic in here, but there's something in a microwave, that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: there's more to a microwave than just throwing food in there.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Turntable to agitate because otherwise microhibs never heat consistently or evenly.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need some type of turntable because what's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: happening is I throw the plastic in the machine. It
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: would make fuel, it would break down, but then there'll
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: be clumps of plastic in the middle that would never
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: be even be touched that you know, they'd still be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: solid plastic. Because what would happen the end byproduct in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: this process all that stuff to the plastic inside of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the machine at the end of solid carbon like as
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: in like carbon carbon like this can be termed to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: activated carbon. This is like you know what I'm saying,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: This is elemental carbon and minerals. So we'd have carbon
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: all around the plastic, but then a solid lump of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: plastic in the middle. I'm like, there needs to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: some type of agitation to improve this process because I'm
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: always playing Devil's advocate because I'm like, how can we
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: get this to a point where it would adopt, be
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: adopted into the world and change the world and so,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and it also will make the process way more efficient, right,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: just I was doing researcher at this point on radio
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: engineering at this point because I need to understand how
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: microwibs work. So I literally at this point and researching
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and reading NASA and military document on how they're transmitting
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: radio waves because that's the best type of knowledge I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: could find to implement and material sciences I can find
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to implement on my skill. Because at this point when
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm building bot, the time i'm building Mark two, there
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: is no literature online that to go off of.
• 24:16
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• 24:19
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• 24:23
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• 24:24
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• 24:28
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• 24:31
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• 24:33
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• 25:22
  Speaker 1: So by the time I built Mark two, that Circlar machine,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: that's when I made my first YouTube video. That was
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the first publication of it online. And then I had
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of my friends tell me you should just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: go on TikTok with it. Okay, I did that because
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't really get all that much traction on YouTube.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So I went on TikTok with it, the first video
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I ever uploaded with they got a million views. He said,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: it was like my video was very direct. I'm like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I'm turning plastic into fuel. With this machine. That surprised
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: people because people are first of all, like that's possible,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and then they're like, you're doing this in your backyard,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: so they couldn't help. But look, so I start to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: share it online and that was actually a part of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: my strategy in a way, because I was thinking, Okay,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I'm coming at this from a perspective of I want
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to actually change the world with it. I'm not just
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: trying to make money off of it. I'm not just
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: trying to, you know, get the fame and notoriety. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: actually want to make a difference in the world. And
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I knew that the best way to do that would
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: actually be through the supportive people and not not the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: other way around, where it's like I'm trying to do
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: this in secrecy for years and years and then figure
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it out. Because I knew from my perspective, I didn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: have interest in, for example, having equity partners that weren't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: with the mission. I wasn't interested in just getting people
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that just wanted to throw me money just because and
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who they are. And so I
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: knew if I could get publicity online for this, raise
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: funds that way, like through donations. Then that can give me,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I guess, a running way to be able to continue
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: to build and innovate to where I can have a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: better position, a better leverageable position on how I want
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to go forward with this. And so that was my
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: strategy because I realized a lot of inventors kind of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: mess up in the place of kind of holding it
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: all to themselves and nobody knows about it, and then
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: if something happens to them. I mean, nobody even knew
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: what we were building until after the fact. You know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna do something different and we're gonna
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: see if it works. It's a risk because you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm posting it online. Somebody could just rebuild it, but
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes. So anyway, I built the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: next machine, Mark three. It was the first machine to
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: have an agitation system and had a big augur on
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the inside. It was a horizontal machine at this point,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and it almost like think about like it was an
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Auger blade, so it was almost like a gigantic spring
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: on the inside that can rotate the plastic. Now, that
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: machine blew up and that was the first machine to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: ever have an incident because I built it outside.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: I built it from a fifty five gallon drum. So
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: just to so you're building these different verticals of microwaves.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: That's melting the plastic, right, Does it also enrich the plastic?
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Does the plastic need to be enriched in order for
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: it to be used for like as gasoline. Is that
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: part of the machine as well? Is that another process?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: That's another process and I'll get into that in a second,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: because at this point I didn't even really have a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: specific refining method that I was using in place. Okay, So,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, the Mark three machine blew up because
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I built out a five gallon drum two thin of metal.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I built Mark four. This machine was built out of
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: propane tanks, much thicker metal. At this point, I was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: really starting to get publicity online because now I was
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: making fuel with these machines. I was started to put
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: tests in engines like wie Wrackers and stuff. But here's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: how this works. To answer your question. The plastic can
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: go in the machine in any form, mixed plastic, dirty plastic,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It could be mixed with food, it could
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be mixed with motor oil, does not matter. It goes
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: in the machine and it all will all be broken
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: down from the heat of the microwaves into that petroleum vapor.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Now that petroleum vapor, after it cools down, it becomes
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: a crude oil. Now, this crude oil is crude oil,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: so you can't just put it in an engine. You
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have to do another process called distillation, fractional distillation to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: refine that crude oil into gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: That now, fractional distillation is the exact process we use
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in every refiner on Earth to this day to or
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, take crude oil, make it gasoline, diesel and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: jet filud.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: That's kind of like what we've been hearing about the
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Venezuelan oil. Yes, it has to be distilled. They don't
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: have the refinery.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Exactly, gotcha, exactly. So I at this point built a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: distiller because I'm like, okay, I'm making this crude oil,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: but it's not.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: It doesn't work in an engine. As is this sounds
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: who are you? Are you funding this or are the
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: people now doing it into you to fund it? Because
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: this all sounds like obviously very invasive, but it also
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: could be expensive.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh very much so.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And that's why I would be literally doing the most
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: ghetto methods possible and taking it apart, microwaves from scrap
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: yards and taking and literally getting pro paying tanks from
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: scrap yards and draining all the propane out and cutting
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: them open and welding them together because I, like, I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: don't have the funds to, you know, go and buy
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: fresh new metal, go and buy a new microwave parts.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But people at this point were starting to donate. But
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it wasn't really floating like that because I never asked
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: for donations. I was coming from the perspective of I'm
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: going to go viral, I'm gonna get AD revenue, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: then that's that's gonna fund me. And TikTok was paying
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: here and there was nothing crazy. So I was still
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: working at the school and I was also I started
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: my own welding company and I called Jabs Metalwork, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I was going around here in Atlants doing volding jobs
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: for people. And so between all of those avenues, you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit of AD revenue here and there, volding company,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: working at the school as an assistant teacher, and then
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: some donations. I was making enough money to just make
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it work.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That mark for machine I did make my first distiller.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I built it and I made gasoline, put it into
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a wheat whacker. That was the first engine to ever operate.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: It was awesome. But then that mark Form machine caught
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: on fire, and that was in my parents' backyard at
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: this time, because I put all my money into this,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, not even getting an apartment or anything, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: when that happened, They're like, we don't want you operating
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: these anymore. And then I'm like gang And then that
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was the first time I ever I think I had
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: ever put my cash app on anything when I had
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that fire, because I'm like, guys, I just need some
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: type of support because it almost caught their house on fire,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: like you know, I had to repair things. And then
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that was such a rush of support, like more than
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I ever thought, because at that point I never felt
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: comfortable even like asking for any type of donation. But
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you guys, see, I'm passionate. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: already been through one of these machines exploding. This one
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: caught on fire, and then at that point I'm like, oh,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: so people really will get behind this at this point
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: because at this point on TikTok, I think I had
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: half a million subscribers or followers, and then on Instagram
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I had like a few thousand. But anyway, then I realized, okay,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: we can do something with this. So I took a break,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a hiatus for about half a year because I didn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: know how I wanted to go about this, because you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't have any property, and my
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: parents told me, you can't do this anymore. So then
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I kind of told them, I said, hey, six months later,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, guys, you see I have all the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: support online. You see, people will donate. Here's what I'm thinking.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna build my next machine in the backyard, okay,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: and people will, you know, will give donations and get
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: excited for it, and then through those donations, we'll raise
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the money to buy the property we need to actually
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: put this on. And I told them I'll build it,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: but I'll never turn it on. That was our deal.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Now I knew in my head I was lying because
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I knew that if I really want to get these donations,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to build that machine and turn it on.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But anyway, then I built the next machine, Mark four
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: point five. Now the reason why it's four point five
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and not Mark five is because I always promised everybody
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: that Mark five would be the first professionally built machine
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that wasn't ghetto anymore. It wasn't microwave parts and pro
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: paine tanks. Mark four point five was built out of
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: three one hundred pound per paying tanks that were cut
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and welded together microwave parts from scrapyard, microwaves, microwaves people
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: donate to me thrown on there. This is the biggest machine.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: This is the machine everybody knows me for now. So
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: at this point, that machine, just by the size and
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: stature of it, now, it was starting to really pick up, right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I was starting to get a lot of more donations,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: starting to get At this point, my Instagram was started
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to blow up. I started, I think, got like one
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: d two hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and then I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: made a little bit of fuel from it that then
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I powered in the first vehicle. At this point, I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: put I made some diesel, because I made gasoline, diesel
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: and jet fuel, and I put the diesel inside of
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety three Ford F three point fifty truck
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that another influencer named Rachel Cook she bought in Florida
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and drove it up to Georgia just to see if
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: this was the first vehicle ever. So like when I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was asking my supporters like, hey, does anybody want to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: donate your vehicle to be the first? Everybody was like hell, no,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: we're not doing that. No, sorry, you know, nobody in
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: my life was willing to do that. But she Rachel Cook,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: being an influencer, her security had money, so she just
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: was like, I believe in you. She bought a truck,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: drove it up and then we put the diesel in
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and then it worked. And then now I really started
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to pick up because now people are like oh, because
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: up to that point, everybody was like you're making You're
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: not making fuel, You're just making like that, that's trash.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: You just worked as far when you say it worked,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: she had to empty the tank. You can't mix. You
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: can't mix with you you're doing the plastic with the gas.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You cannot do that, right, Well you can,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: but if you do that, then it's not a realistic
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: test because it's like it still has gas in. So
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: so she had to empty the tank. So so here's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: what happened. We had such a small quantity of the diesel.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: We couldn't empty the tank we had to empty We
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: had to basically go into the engine and essentially empty
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: all the diesel from the engine and pour my diesel
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: directly into the engine. Okay, right, And so that's what
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: we did for her truck, and it worked, it ran,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and then you could literally even smell from me exhaust
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: that this was it was a different fuel in there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: How long did it run for? Uh? It ran for
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: actually a decent amount of time, because we had about
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I had about half a gallon, and then I only
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: ended up putting a quarter gallon in the fuel filter
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: fuel filter bowl area, and then just off of that
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: little bit, we ran the truck around this parking lot
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like ten times, and then it still had some in there.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: So how much plastic did it take to get to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the half a gallon?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: So the average conversion rate is about ten pounds to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a gallery. The reason I had so little was because,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like I said, in the middle of me making that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: my last machine had burned down and I couldn't make
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: any more from that point forward. But then anyway, with
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Mark four point five doing that, you know, and then
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the machine was big. Now I was really starting to
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: pick up on a social media's But then a big
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: incident happened. One day. I was distilling refining, which is
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we're literally boiling the crude oil to make
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a gasoline used and jet fuel, and it blew up.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: It literally exploded, and I was in the explosion and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it was like a fireball, and then it gave me
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: second degree burns on my legs and I had to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: go to the hospital. And then at that point my
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: parents are.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Like, you're done.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: You're done. That was enough. Yeah, yeah, that's it. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so then they said, if you want to continue working
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: on this, we support you in all, because like, yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: we love you and all, but you can't do it
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: here anymore. I don't know how we never had the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: HUA call on us. We got a strict HOA. But
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I think all my neighbors are with the mission because
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: we never got the HA called even after a mushroom
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: cloud explosion. As a matter of fact, like I have
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: these scars on my foot. You see, it looks like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I have vital I go on both sides in my foot.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Let's see if the grammar can get it. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you see, yeah, second to be burns. I had to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: go to the hospital get burn surgery for them. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: couldn't walk for about a month. I was in crutches.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Is this way you went missing?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: No?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: No, no, We're about to get there. So yeah, that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: was That was the summer before that happened. This is
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: a book man, and I actually I'm going to be
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: writing a book soon. That's a different thing. We'll get
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to that. But anyway, blew myself up hospital. All this
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: got out, and my parents are like, no more, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, but here's the thing. We have this country
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: property that we have family property out in Alabama around
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Selma that you can go work on out there because
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: there's no ho out there. It's you know, country property.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: To catch is it's four hours away. But and I'm like, well,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to too far into the mission now, because
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: like at this point, I'm still coming from the perspective
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of like I've seen how much people will support me,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not about to dilute my company
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: out of desperation for a place to do this. Because
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of course people at this point were always offering like hey,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: let me invest, let me but it was always predatory
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and type of things people are like, hey, you know me,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: let me give you fifty thousand dollars for half of
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the company type thing. You know, let me give you
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars for happening. And I'm like, no, you.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Formed a company like you did you know that process
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: of creating a company and had an LLC point okay.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: And then the other part is like I'm just stuck
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: on you blowing yourself up.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Usually engineers chemical engineers have lab interns or lab like assistants.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Do you have any of these things? It's just you.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: No, it's just been me. Wow, okay, yeah, keep going,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: so going on, I believe at this point, I'm like
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty and almost twenty one, I moved the machine,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: this entire machine out to Alabama four hours away. And
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that's this is this machine that everybody's known me for online.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's the big machine that's the size of out of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: school bus, you know, all together. And this machine is
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the machine that made the fuel that I put into
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: like the scat pack in Atlanta. I'm a super motorcycle.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: This is the same machine that made the fuel that
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I just put into the Rose Royce.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: This this last weekend but this machine out there, it
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: was a four hour drive to and from So for
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: almost a year and a half of my life, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: committed myself to driving a four hours out there just
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to get started working and then drive four hours back.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So I didn't live out in Alabama. And this isn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a super isolated piece of country property that's so isolated
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: that you you you're you might hear a plane go
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: by every here and here and there, like you might like,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: this is isolated. There's only cows and hayfields and mosquitoes around.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: That's it. And and then so then that's that's being
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in such an isolated place like that. That's why this
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: was a really weird situation where and I believe it
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: was May of last year, I had that machine out there,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and then I started to implement solar panels into it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: because I told you guys before, like a huge advantage
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of microwaves is you can operate it off of any
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: type of electricity. And I had this theory where I'm like, Okay,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: if we operate this off of solar panels and the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: energy comes from the sun well outside of labor, I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: able to make fuel for free. Then you know, I'm
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: not charging myself for labor, so it's a zero cost
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to operate. Electricity was the only cost. So then I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: got I did a fundraiser. I raised about thirty thousand
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: dollars to get solar panels and all the things I needed,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and then I put it all together and at that point,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you got it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Did you get the thirty thousand quickly?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I did? You know why because you know what
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I did. I did shows where I was operating different vehicles.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: So one of the biggest shows I did, I was
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: in Chicago and I ran two identical trucks. Ran We
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: ran run truck off of diesel from the pumper, run
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: truck off of my diesel, and we compared the smell,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the exhaust, the smoke level, and then we realized my
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: fuel literally had less smoke, the exhaust smelt cleaner. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: then a few months later I actually sent my Deezel
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to a lab to ASAP Labs in Washington, Vancouver, Washington,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: and they confirmed it with the test. Their lab tests
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: showed my diesel makes more power than the user from
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the pump, makes less smoke, it burns cleaner than user
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: from the pump. I have the pepper a SAP Labs
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: set them and then we're like, oh wow, this is crazy.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: So between those two things, those two exciting moments, people
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, yes, we're supporting this. So I had
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to gofund me. Like I said, I'm still an LSA
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: at this point, not even a nonprofit. Thirty thousand dollars raised,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: got all the money I needed. I also had a
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: guy in Chicago donate solar panels, so while I was
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: up there doing my show, I also grabbed like a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of solar panels from him. But anyway, at
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that point I put the solar panels on the machine.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Now this is where I became an inventor, because at
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that point in the world, there was not a single
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like I said, there were some microad powalysis reactors, a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: few here and there, there were some traditional paralysis reactors,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: but nobody had made a solar microwave paralysis reactor anywhere,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: no university, no million dollar funded startup. This was the first,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and so I built it. But then the same month
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: when implemented those solar panels, something weird happened out on
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this super is of that piece of property, where, like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I said, you're lucky if you even hear a plane
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: go by. I was out there one night. It was
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: about ten o'clock at night, long day of work because
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I'll be sleeping inside of my minivan some nights, legit.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: And then I felt these really deep vibrations do my
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: whole body shaking, my whole car. I'm like, what is that?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It was a helicopter flying over. And then I'm like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: what that's weird. Like I've been out here for a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: year working on this thing. There's never been a helicopter.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Like there's there's rotor literally propeller airplanes that fly here
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and there, you know, grand airplanes for farmers, but never
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a helicopter. So I'm like, that's weird. I got out
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of my car, looked and there was this It's just
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: this black, blacked out helicopter flying at the tree, super low,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, it has a spotlight on it too.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I guess it's just flying by whatever. Okay,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: boom flew over. It circled back around me again, like okay,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: that's weird, but I'm not gonna freak out. Then it
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: did it again. I'm like, oh, hell no, I got
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: my phone out, I have it. We got the video.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I recorded that helicopter because it circled me six times
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and the spotlight was literally shined directly into the windshield
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of my vand I was getting ready to just drive
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: off that night because I'm like, what is going on?
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: And then it then it flew off. But like I said,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: at that point, I got it on camera. I was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: posting stories about it on Instagram, because at this point,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I think I had like a million followers on Instagram,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: two million on TikTok, a few half one hundred thousand
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: on YouTube or whatever or half a million, and I'm
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: posting about this and everybody's like, yoh man, that's that's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: some that's some agency or something. And I'm like, I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: don't know who that was, yeah, And I'm like, I
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: think I guess they think I'm just making like whiskey
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: out here or something, doing something illegal whatever that, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm playing, you know, trying to be as optimistic as possible.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: But then the month after that, now we're in June
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Now, the month after that, all
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, one dad wake up and then my
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: phone is completely hacked. Like I had an iPhone at
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: this time, and it was completely hacked, like a hacked
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to the degree where somebody was able to hear tap
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: into the mic of the phone, tapp into the camera
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: of the phone, had access to every picture anything I
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: did on the phone. You know that because I would literally,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I'll literally be talking to like my family members about
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: what was going on, and they get text of what
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I was saying. I'm like, what in the world is
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: going on? This is like something from a movie. And
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: then I knew they had access to my entire phone.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: You know why, because I had a picture of my
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: phone on my phone with my driver's license I used
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to like for applications or whatever, and that picture of
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: my driver's license that was only on my phone got
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: uploaded to my Instagram account. And then I'm like what.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: And then I looked at my Instagram and then I'm like, Okay,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: somebody hacked in obviously. But then I looked in the logins.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: There were no logins. It said you posted that to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: your Instagram account, So no, I did it, And I'm like, oh,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I kind of get it. Now, there's some type of
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: mailware or bug on my phone to where somebody literally
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: is essentially in my phone, and I've realized that on
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Apple phones there's this thing called Advanced Data Protection that
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: by default is turned off, and if you have that
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: thing turned off, they allow somebody to essentially from a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: computer access your phone. And this is a thing for
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: especially iPhones because Apple can do it. If you have
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: been on the phone with Apple support, they can literally
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: control your phone remotely. So some hackers breached that system
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and they had complete access to my phone, and then
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: anybody around me, like my family, had iPhones that were
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: getting breached to air tags were going off out like
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. It was crazy stuff. And then they
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: were continuing to post my driver's license, my family information,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: personal information all over my social media's and I'm like,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. And I met a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: video online. I say, guys, there is weird stuff going on.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I have no idea who this is, what was doing this,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: but I got to figure this out. So keep your
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: eyes open if you if you see weird things, know
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that I'm under attack. I made that video. That was it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I stopped posting for over almost two months because I'm
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: trying to fight all this figure out what's going on.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out like is this a physical threat,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Like is my left or risk? Is my family's left
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: at risk? They know where I'm at, they know my address,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: they know all this stuff. They're posting stuff online about
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: me on my social media. And then at that point,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that's when everybody said he went missing. No, that was okay, yep.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: And I never told people I was missing or kidnapp
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: or anything. I told people just keep your eyes open.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: The weird stuff is going on. But then when you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: combine that me making that video with them posting my
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: driver's license, it did look like a kidnapping situation. I'll
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: keep it real. It really did. Yeah, it really did
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: look like that. Because then I'm talking to Meta because
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Meta, somebody is logging into my account because
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Meta is telling me at this point, they're like, if
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: you post your license again, we're banning your account permanently.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: That's against our policies. I'm like, Meta, that's not me.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And Meta said, okay, we're gonna lock your Instagram account.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: You can't log in and nobody can. And then and
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: they said we're gonna do an investigation while it's locked down.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: So at this point, for over a month of them
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: doing their their investigation, I literally couldn't update people because
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: they locked my account. And then at that point, I'm like,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not touching any of my social media's because I'm
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: not letting whoever this is have any any plays on me.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Right Like, there was there were so many weird things.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: If I'll tell you guys how weird it got. It
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: got to the point where I had my iPhone. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: turned on the I turned it on airplane mode because
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this iPhone is tapped to all hell. Turned
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it on airplane mode, turned it all the way off.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: They would inside up a Faraday bag, then put that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: inside of a metal animal container. Okay. Came back the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: next day, turned it on airplane mode was off, Like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: what how is that even physically possible? All my air
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: tags would randomly going off. I used to all these
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: air tags, and all my air tags will beeping, like
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you know, like if somebody, if you tell it to
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: go ring like you want to find it, all mine
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: will be beeping. I kicked the batteries out, put the
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: batteries back in, put them inside of Faraday bags. They'd
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: still be beeping. So somebody just had complete control over
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: my entire thing, bring cameras. And then I turned out
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: my computer had malware on it because I was talking
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to a tech support guy one day on what's that
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: messenger on my computer? Because they were hacking all my stuff,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: my Facebook, all this, and all of a sudden, he
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: got a message sent to him and they were like,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: we know you're talking, we know you're helping Julie, and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: stop helping him. He got a text and this was
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: from my computer, and we're like, dang yo, they got
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: everything compromise. So then at that point I got rid
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of all my phones. I had to wipe all my computers,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and then all this was happening. And then at the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: same time, everybody online was talking about he's missing, He's kidnapped,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody was saying all these things. And then
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I finally got everything situated about a month later, and
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I came back and met it, met the video where
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like it was hackers, guys, they got into my stuff.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, like I forgot to mention,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: on top of all this, just a month before the hat,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I had that helicopter fly over. So people put all
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: that together and they're like, oh, they got this guy,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: he's done.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: It's crazy after that Videosments, yeah, yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly because yep, because Investments was on August. So yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: then I showed up to invest Fest and then uh yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: And then and then everybody was like surprised to see
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: me because everybody was like he was missing. So then
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: it was crazy because when I was there, I was
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: just going because I'm like, I just want to see
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: what's up. Like I didn't go and I was like,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know security or anything. I just showed up
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: as myself nothing, and anywhere everywhere I went, I was swarmed,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Like I couldn't walk anywhere, even when there were some
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: moments you know that where the stages it's like darkened there,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm dark skin. So I'm like I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: got an advantage. I could do a little sneak effects.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Let me let me go step in the corner of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this dark room and I could finally just be no
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: people would find me. And then before I knew it,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I'd be swarmed. Everybody would be to interview me and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: then take pictures with me, and I'm like, oh my goodness,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. And then and then I ran into
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you guys. And then at that point. That's why I'm like, yes,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: please let me in the video here room in pat sofa,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it's been a rough day. You're like, oh my goodness.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Anywhere I go, I tell you in the bathroom. It
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: didn't matter, But I did show that. What that showed me, though,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: was that my theory of doing this approach of sharing
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it online works because even though that that wasn't a
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: situation where I know I wasn't kidnapped, but I was
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: under attack, people were not silent. The news didn't want
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to pick up on it, but people that made it
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the news. Everywhere I was in South Africa, publications, France, Germany, Mexico,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: United States, like daily Mail, everywhere, there were blog posts,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: worlds that everybody was posting about because people, the people
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: did not let it be silent. Nobody let that Like
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: every social media they were not every social media creator,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but tons of huge social media creators talking about it.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving was talking about I mean like it was crazy,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: And that goes to show me that, like, yes, this
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: approach of sharing this with everybody and making it the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: world's journey is advantageous because nobody would ever let this
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: be like other past inventors where it could just be
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: snuffed out easy. It's gonna be a fight to snuff
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: this out because nobody's gonna just let it lay low
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: when something happens. Because here's a crazy thing. I don't
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: know who it was the hacked into my stuff, but
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. They had access to my page, okay,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and since all this was happening, my page shut up.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Like I was at a million followers when I started,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the hack, I was out
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: like two point five million because of all the publicity.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: But anyway, they had access to my cumongous page that
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: had more views than ever, and they didn't use that
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: opportunity to go in there and like post us some
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: type of like crypto scam to make money or post
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: about themselves for publicity. Their only motive was to break
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: my spirit. Their only motive was to post personal things
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: about me, things about my address and my family to
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: try to discourage me. And that going to show me
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: was whoever this was that had these crazy means to
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: happen to me like this. They're intimidated just by the
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: fact of what I'm doing. And then there's all type
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: of theories you can go down. They gotta go down
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: that hole.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: You're who you think could be intimidated, and you could
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: just you could just go down and wrap a hole yourself.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But my thing is this, Okay, when that, when you
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: got that, it just stopped and never like, oh no, no,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: it's still going on to this day, you know. But
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: what it is is I've changed my approach. I understand
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: that anything I do on any device is not is
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: not private. And I also I have so many different
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: cybersecurity means, like like for example, I have I have
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: super complex passwords for every individual log in, and then
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I have a physical authentication security key for every log in,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and then I have anybody that works in my organization
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: has to go through cybersecurity training. And then I have
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a cybersecurity team that's super you know, air type because
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: like they this is a cybersecurity team that has clients
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: all around the world companies, and they were like, we
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: never seen an attack like this before, and they said,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: this is a nation state level attack, meaning this was
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: a funded organization funded by some nations governments to do this.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Because that was a team and that was an expensive
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: attack and for them to do such an expensive attack,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and I ask for money means that they were funded
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: to do that. Also, like I said, we can go
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: down the rabbit holes on who it was all day.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I would you say that. I mean, obviously the time
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that we're living in.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: You could see with the conference that's going on throughout
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: the world, oil is obviously at.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: The forefront of a lot of it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Do you see your technology as an alternative more so
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: than a replacement? And long term vision of the technology,
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: how does it keep advancing?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I see my technology as an integration integration guy. And
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. The fuel is amazing, and that's what
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: gets people's attention. But the goal and the point was
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: actually to get rid of plastic, and we just happened
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to turn it into fuel. As a society and as
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: a species, if we don't get rid of our plastic,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: we're not going to be a species soon because microplastics
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: are already like po to five percent of our brain
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: has already made a microplastic because we consuming so much
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, because it's in the landfills and in
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the oceans, and it breaks down into these small particles
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: in those areas. It gets into the food, it gets
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: into the water, it gets into the air. We consume it,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: we have to get rid of it, and so this
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: is a necessary thing with or without the fuel side.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: The fuel side is amazing, and that's an even better
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: side for integration and amazing an amazing byproduct. But I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: don't care if this process was turned the plastic into dirt,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: because as far as I know, you could have all
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the bolts you walk going out to the ocean they
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: collect the plastic. But if you're bringing it back to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: shore just to throw it in the landfill, that's not
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: a solution to me, because I know when it goes
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: from plastic is in the landfill, it still is breaking
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: down into microplastics that then get into the landfill, lead, chap,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: rain water that ends up in our water supply. It's
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: still breaking down under photodegradation into methane and ethylene, which
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: are twenty five times and forty times worse than coeal two,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: which is if people want to talk about global warming
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: of making fuel, that's way worse global warming from that
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: than any CO two that comes from burning plastic. Lane Right,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: So the fuel is amazing, But to integrate this into
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: the world, I see it as we need to get
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it to the point where it's valuable to recycle plastic.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: We need to get to the point where, like black
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: used to get paid for bringing in like you know,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: metal cans, you could get paid to bring in plastic
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: because now we're making it into such a valuable product.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to replace anybody. I'm not here to
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: replace any plastic manufacturers. I am not here to replace
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: any fuel people. I'm just here to give a solution
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: to two sides of the spectrum, to give a solution
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: for getting rid of waste. Waste management and then energy independence.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Now as it stands, unfortunately, those are two industries that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to be tapped into in any way. Waste
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: management and recycling. Like I said, they operate very shady
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: because they're making billions telling a lie. Why would anybody
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: ever pay for their recycling again when they know it's
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: not actually being recycled when they know that I actually
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: am recycling, right, I don't want to step on their toes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I want to integrate, and I always look for ways
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: to integrate where it's like, okay, maybe waste management, you
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: have your recycling program. How about you is give the
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: plastic to me, right, I'm not here trying to replace you,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: because frankly, that's not how you live for long. You know,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna come along and replace industries that have
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: been around for centuries. That's just not happening. Same thing
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: with the fuel industry. I'm like, okay, my perspective business.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody's like, why don't you make your own gas station?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, because I don't want to die. I'm like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: how about how about we do this guys. How about
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I go to gas stations to say, hey, how about
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: you guys can add my stuff has a fuel additive.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: How about I get the proof to show that my
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: fuel actually burns better and cleaner and it's better for
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: engines than feel from the pump, and now you can go.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: You know, some pumps have those little things where you
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: can add the detergent for extra like I don't know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: a few cents of gallon. Now you could add plasterline
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: for a few sense of gallon and this has proven
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: to like give you better fuel economy or whatever.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Is the key.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Collaboration is the key. But also I set myself up
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: just strategically to where it really doesn't matter because I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: very intentionally you not have my technology patented? Why because
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: the patent industry is actually very corrupt. I learned this
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: because I at one point was patent pending. And then
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: one day I went to a rotary club meeting and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I spoke with the inventor of the wireless keyfop for cars,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and he told me GM stole my stuff. And I said, well,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: you have a patent, inn't you. And it's like, yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I have like seventy patents and I've been to every
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: country on the on Earth almost. I'm like, so, how
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: they see your stuff with the patent? He's like, because
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: a patent doesn't mean anything to big players. All the
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: patent is is a means for you to go to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: court and say, hey, they infringed on my patent. But
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: when you're in court, that's a whole different story. Now
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: you're in court, and now you have to prove to
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the judge that they've infringed on your patent. Now you
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: need to fight their lawyers. Okay, you're an invintor who
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: came up with something, and you're fighting this big industry
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: that has billions of dollars and they can just go
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to court over and over and over again and take
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: you and fight you and fight you and fight you
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: until you have no money left. So even though you
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: know they saw your thing, you can't prove it anymore
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: because all they have to do is keep rebutting it
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: in court over and over again. They have the funds
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to do that. You don't because you're not GM, You're
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: not whoever you know. And so he told me, he
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: was like, the truth is if you want something to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: be yours, because when you padd it something, it becomes
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: public knowledge. It gets published on the padent directory. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: know that because I literally looked up patents for paralysis
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: reactors to get inspersion to build mine. So that means
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: anybody on earth can look up your patent and see
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: how it was built, how it was made, and then
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: make a copy. You make a few changes and then
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: say it was theirs, and then you can go and
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: fight them. But that takes time, that takes money, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: then at some point you can't do it anymore. You're
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: trying to invent, You're not trying to be a you
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you're an inventor, not a lawyer,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: not trying to fight people in court for the rest
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: of your life. So he told me that, and he's like,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the key is really trade secrets. Think about it. He
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: was like, Coca Cola did not patent the Coca Cola formula.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Why because if they patented the formula, they would everybody
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: would know it. Even though nobody can copy it, everybody
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: would know it. And you best believe they copy it
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: because guess what in China, there's no patent law. It
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: just goes to That's why they have Chinese knock castle everything.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: They have no patent enforcement in China and so many
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: other countries. So then he was like, and guess what
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: you had to do. You have to go and get
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: a patent in every country on Earth. You know how
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: much that cost? So much money, and then you had
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: to renew it. And so you paid all this money
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that could have gone into your actual invention to get
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: the patent, which means nothing because they're just go and
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: take it and copy it. Then you have to spend
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: money finding them in court. And then I heard the
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: story from inventor after inventure after inventor, and they both
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: said they always said to me, trade secrets are the key.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Of course, trade secrets you just don't tell anybody. Trade
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: secrets are things that you have that you that nobody knows.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: And I have a few trade secrets on my machine
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: that nobody knows that you can look at my machine
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: on a video camera and not know these certain particular
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: materials exactly. But I have another play. So there's this
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: thing called public domain. Once you have something published online
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: for over a year, nobody can patent it. All my
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: machines are public domain. Nobody can patent any of my
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: machines because they've all been visible in the public for
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: over a year.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: And that's because you're putting them on social media exactly.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: So that now that saves things, because now there's no
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: way a company can come and just shelf it patented.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: What I may copy it and shelf it hell and
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: hide it. But then here's another approach I'm doing. I'm like,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I do have trade secrets that I have. Yes, the
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: truth is, people, you will always have coffeecats. That's is
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: what it is. That's just how the world works. That's
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: just how the market works. The key is being first
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: to market. Right now, I'm constructing my next machine, Mark five,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: which will be the world's first solar mobile microwaparalysis reactor.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: It's clearly going to be on a trailer and I'll
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: literally be able to drive to like anywhere, pull up
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: process plastic on site, go to the next stop. Here's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the thing that machine is that's gonna be the one
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: that's going to go to market eventually, because I'll be
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: able to sell these mobile trailer machines that relate to governments,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: to companies, to farmers whoever, to the individuals. Possibly. I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: don't know what the regulations look like on that, but
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: possibly either way, being first to market and having trade
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: secrets is the key. And so here's what I'm actually
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: gonna do. Since I got to this point and I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: understand how to make a mobile machine like this after
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: all my five years of travel and error, I actually
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: am going to be writing a book with the blueprints
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: in it on how and I'll just be public, okay,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: on how to do it? How to do it? Just
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  Speaker 1: because Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things we talk about, Oh, what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean by that? What do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 4: You're writing a book telling people how to do what
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  Speaker 4: you did? Yeah, but you're not going to put everything
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  Speaker 4: in it. You got the trade secrets.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna when I read that book, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: tell people how to build a machine, and that means
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  Speaker 1: everything the trade secrets included. That means everything that I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell them how to build the machine.
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  Speaker 2: But you've already got the public domain.
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  Speaker 1: So well, nobody can patent it. But you know, of
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  Speaker 1: course it's a gamble because it's like, Okay, I put
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: this out, and nothing stops a company from taking all
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: my research and work and implementing it on their own
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: thing and doing it. But you know what I realized.
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  Speaker 1: I realized if I put this out and a company
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  Speaker 1: or individuals or people in the world go and take
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  Speaker 1: my work and you know, steal it and go and
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  Speaker 1: make copies and then go out and get it in
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  Speaker 1: the world, I realized at some point I'm like, that's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: actually what I want, because that's actually solving the problem.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Like what I want is to get rid of plastic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way one company on earth can do it.
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  Speaker 4: With open source. It's bigger than you making money. You
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: really want it, you really want to just solve a
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  Speaker 4: problem in the world.
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  Speaker 1: This is of course, yeah, this is a selfless Now
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  Speaker 1: of course we had you know, I'm gonna make it
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  Speaker 1: make sense for me, And that's why I'm putting it
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: in my book because now if you now but at
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the same time, one person you're buying a book and
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: just upload them online and anybody could see it. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean like, at the end of the day, of course,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: of course everybody wants to make money, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I there's a different means for me than that.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds like it's a win win, right the book.
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  Speaker 5: If you can monetize that, you can make some money, obviously,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: but if people still the idea, then they it solves
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: the issue that you were coming.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: To be with you and then that is the ultimate
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: form of protection.
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  Speaker 5: So here's here's the thing, because it made me think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: of funding, especially for black businesses, the lack thereof, right
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: imagine in the world, And I don't know, do you
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: do you wrestle with that?
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  Speaker 2: What would this look like if there was fun? Is
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: it infrastructure?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: Is it factories that we can put this in or
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: are you looking at it like even with those odds
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  Speaker 5: against me, right, because you're doing this, you're doing gofund
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  Speaker 5: me and you're monetizing the content. The mobile model is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: what I'm going to do in the book is becoming
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: the way that I can say, all right, even if
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: they don't do it, here's here's a way I can
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: get this out of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I see it as this. For example, this mobile
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: machine that's being built, I am raising fund so I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: have a nonprofit now. I just started literally last month.
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  Speaker 1: And so for example, that machine, this mobile machine is
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: being built and funded one hundred percent by sponsors. So
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: companies are paying to have their logo on the final
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: wrap of the bus. And so I started to realize
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I have certain brand things now because guess what, anybody
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: can build a machine, but not everybody is nature Jab
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: building a machine. You know what I'm saying. It's like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: any car can get you from what point A to
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  Speaker 1: point B, but not every car is a Rolls Royce
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: doing that. You know, there's a different diference. And so
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: the brand is strong in the sense of, of course,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: raising funds, but also the brand is strong in the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: sense of when it comes to market, when it comes
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: to actually being on the market and selling these because yes,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: anybody could just make these machines when the blueprints are
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: out there, but there's some companies and individuals who only
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: want a machine for me. They only want a machine
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: from the nature jab brand because that is like that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: is like the top is the highest echelon, the highest call.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody else is a copycat under that, right, Because here's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: the thing. Of course, I'm gonna make the book and blueprints,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: but that's still gonna be like relatively outdated. My mind
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: is always building the next machine while I'm on the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: current machine I'm building, so like I'm on mark six
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: in my mind, the book is gonna have mark five
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  Speaker 1: in it. So I'm already like coming up with new
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: trade secrets, new things on for the next machine. And
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of course there's of course the experience. Like I said,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I got to a point where since I was the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: only one building these type of machines, you can't look
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: up certain for these machines, Like when I have troubleshooting,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: there is no googling it anymore. It's only me out
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: there traveling and solving it myself. And so with that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: being said, I have certain knowledge in my mind. It
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: gives me an advantage over anybody because I'm the only
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: one who has been at this five years, blowing myself
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: up multiple times, you know, and so I always have
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: that advantage. But the truth is, like I said, like
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  Speaker 1: if I'm really looking at it like almost like from
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: an ego disillusion perspective, it actually is beautiful if people
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: could actually design machines even better than me. Because here's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the thing. If I make this open source, now everybody's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: improvements are open for everybody. And now now we're getting
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: to solving the problem faster. Now I have people all
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: over the world nowadays who are already trying to copy
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: my machines. Now and tell me. And I have people
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: are in Brazil and all this. I encourage them, say
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: be safe, don't blow yourself up, you know. But but yeah,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I encourage you because we need this everywhere, right. And
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: my goal is I'm going to take the same mobile
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  Speaker 1: platform machine so nature jab LLC. That's for profit, that's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: gonna sell the trailer machine see governments blah blah blah
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: individuals around the world. Jab Innovation is a nonprofit. It's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: gonna take that same mobile system and implement it on
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: the boats and we'll go out into the ocean. And
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: then now we can process the ocean plastic directly in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the fuel and the boat can run off of that
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: fuel and just be out there forever. We'll have a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: boat that's autonomous like with AI, just be out there
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  Speaker 1: forever until all the plastic is gone, because it can
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: just run until all the plastic is gone.
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  Speaker 2: What's the pricing life for a machine like that?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: Because when you're saying it, it makes me think of
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: when you talked about AI. How a company like ASML
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: has created the EV machine and it's their machine, but
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: it's so expensive.
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  Speaker 2: Because as it's a specialty. Obviously you're the creator of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: this machine, which makes it a specialty. How are you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: making a price?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: They're not that expensive Like I'm doing this mobile machine.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to come in at like one hundred thousand dollars,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: you know, with the trailer and all that, you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and that means that could be sold for like two
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand uard a million, you know. And that was
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: that's a part of the purpose. The reason why is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: because going back to what I was saying, some of
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: the nations that need this technology the most cannot afford it.
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  Speaker 1: Quarter million dollars that's enough to fund raise. Let's get
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: this machine in Senegal. Let's get this machine and gone,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Let's get the machine into making Republic Haiti. Let's get
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: this machine in countries that need it the most, but
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: can't afford it. We could do that. That's an easy crowdfund.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: That's way easier than crowdfunding two hundred fifty million dollars
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: decentralized approaches. The way I said in the beginning, I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: didn't invent paralysis. There have already been companies that built
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: big machines that run off of traditional paralysis reactors around
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: the world. I played Debol's advocate because I'm like, well,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: they're clearly not doing their job properly, because we got
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: plastic everywhere, simple simple equation. And in playing Debo's advocate,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I realized the big issue was that they were making
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: these huge, centralized plants that nobody can afford that if
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: they have any issues. A small issue is a huge
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: issue on a machine that size, you know, a machine
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: the size of a few acres, small issue can put
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: that thing, can cost millions of dollars and put it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: out of commission for months. But and I proved that
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  Speaker 1: you can build these small machines like this that actually
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: process a good amount of plastic on a daily basis
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  Speaker 1: and can make can make on a small scale fuel
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  Speaker 1: of quality like I don't. I have not seen anybody
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  Speaker 1: else that has built a mobile and self sufficient essentially
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: oil refinery. And I've proven that can be done. And
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: now that I that I've proven that can be done,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I believe that's the way to do it. I believe
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: let's have However, many hundreds of trailer machines are needed
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: per city, and it'll be just like waste management. Go
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to a restaurant, they have their plastic out, pull up, boom,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: process it, going to the next stop. Do that everywhere. Islands,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: especially Hawaii, they need this. They don't have a landfill space.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: It cost them so much to ship plastic off of
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: the island. It makes more sense for them to just
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: pay for a machine that can process it right there
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and make fuel. There you have it. There, you have it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: Man, that was extremely insightful conversation. What do you need
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: to make this happen at scale?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Like? I know you you know obviously you're raising money
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: or you have the donations.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: Like in the perfect world, right if I could just
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: snap a finger today and like what would be your wishless? Okay,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: I need this amount of money, I need this amount
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: of land, I need this amount of workers. What do
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: you need to get this running at scale?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I would say, I would say I need probably about
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars at this rate to fulfill the rest
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: of the vision, because for ten million dollars, I can
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: afford the property that'll be necessary, and then any type
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: of manufacturing things to get to the point, because I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: ultimately want to be a manufacturer of these trailer machines.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: And you know the truth is, up to this entire
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: point in my journey, I have been independent in this.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have any any business partners or equity partners
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: because that allows me to do things like my book
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: out or not patented, because you know, like, for example,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: an investor, the first thing they want is the security
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: of knowing like we're gonna get a return, So they're like,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: you got to patent it, You're not. You're definitely not
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: gonna put out a book with blueprints now, and so
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: we get our money first. But I always decide, I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: always was like, well, I'm trying to actually make a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: difference in the world and not just make money. Because
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: if I want to make money, there's a lot hell
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: of a lot easier ways in this world to make
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: money and safer ways to make money. So I'm like,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: we're actually trying to go for impact and make the difference.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: You have to have this different perspective of like almost
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: like doing those selfless acts of faith because I know
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'll be fine in the end. I've been fined up
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: to this point, and so yeah, when it comes down
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: to it, That's why I start my nonprofit because now
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: it allows people to have a tax deductible way to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: directly get to the project. And I kind of just
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: with that, kind of just walk by faith by saying,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna build this next We're going to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: see where it goes. And I truly believe that when
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I build these trailer machines and I tore the entire
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: United States with it, showing everybody before their eyes the process,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I just truly believe the right it will beget in
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: the eyes of the right individuals that will then allow
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: this to be in the right place. And whether that
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: may not even be like direct, oh I just get
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: ten million dollars, it might just be something like, hey,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: I'll allow you to work at my plants. I allow
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you to be at my warhouse for free. You can
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: manufacture them here. You know, who knows what's going to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: come from it. But I just believe that since my
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: intentions are from the perspective of I'm just trying to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: change the world, I'm going to get in front of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the right people. And I've already seen that because, for example,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: the machine that's being built right now, the Mark five
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: machine on their mobile trailer, is literally being community built
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: by volunteers from all around the United States. These are
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: highly skilled individuals, people that frankly should not be just
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: volunteering their time and even on their own expense to
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: come out there and work on it, but they are
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: because they see the vision and they see what this
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: is meaning. And I truly believe, especially like with the boat,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: like I believe the boat would be very easy to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: raise sponsorships for for example, because companies would love to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: have their logo on this bar that's going out to
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the ocean. And so I just believe that, Yeah, it's
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: gonna all work out, and it'll all happen, just as
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: it always has nobody's five years, because I've walked by
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: faith in many different ways doing this, you know, just like,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: for example, I chose not to go to college to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: focus on this, and you know, I'm still here, and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: so I believe that, especially at this point, making this
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: mobile and gang being able to show it to people.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: This is really opening up the next chapter of this
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: entire process, and things are going to become very exponential,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: because it's just been this year twenty twenty six now
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: when I've really started to actually work with people. Up
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: to this point, it's always just be me. I've never
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: had volunteers or interns or even organizational people helping me.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to actually find the right team of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: people because I've laid down the roots and foundations to
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: show people what this is for and what the mission
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: is for, and that the goal is not just to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: get rich off of it. And now I'm attracting those
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: types of people around me. They get that and are
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: working conjunctively in that same vein. And now I really
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: believe within the next five years at most, this is
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: going to be in a place where implemented in the world,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: because I can just tell the exponentiality is there.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Now there's one question, of course, you have the pathway forward,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: you're still on social media, but like, what do you
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: think about any level of criticism, because it's always gonna
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: be critics.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Right for sure.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: So some people are like, well, they already have Like
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: you said, they've spent millions of dollars when it's already
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: it hasn't worked that scale. Why should we think that
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: it's going to work and scale this time. Or some
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: people are like it will never happen because, like you said,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: the waste management the oil companies is just not going
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: to work.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Or people will say it's like it's different thing for sure,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: like for the critics, because it's not. You have a
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: lot of.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: Supporters, but everybody has some level of critics too, right, Yeah,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: do you even think about those people?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Or yeah, I love reading any type of critical, critical
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: places that come from a place of actual like I guess, uh,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: constructive criticistructive criticism where it could be actually improving. Like
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: some people that are just genuinely jealous and just straight
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: spiteful and hateful, well sometimes actually make some decent suggestions.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: Uh look, look keep it real. They're the reason I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: started to get the solar panels because they were always
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: complaining about, well, what's the point of doing this if
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: you're burning energy to run the microwaves. I'm like, that's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Like you know, you don't see
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: you don't see the vision because I'm like, we're getting
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: rid of plastic, but that's true. Let me just use
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: solar panels. Thank you. You know, the critics were the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: ones who inspired me. They will take my things to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: their lap to get it tested. The critics who were
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: who inspired me to start doing the fuel tests where
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I'm putting this in engines because they'd always be saying
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: when I'll never run in the engine, it will destroy
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: It'll blow up an engine first try. And I'm like, no,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: it won't. But I'm like, here's what I always say.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: My actions and intentions speak louder than my words, So
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna I could sit there all day
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: and go back and forth, or I could just show you.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: You say it's gonna blow up an engine. Okay, I'll
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: just go through it in a Rolls voice. This cat
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: pack an engine worth more than me. See what happens.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: You say it it burns dirty, or it's horrible emissions. Okay,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I'll just go take it to the lab. We'll see
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: what happens. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. If you're
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: right and it is horrible, we'll fix it. We'll figure
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: out what we need to do to fix it. If
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: if you're wrong, then boom. If you say this is
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: stupid because it's already been done before, I'm like, okay,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna build one that's never been done before.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I'm solar continuous racked on a trailer. I mean you
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: can look it up. If you go look it up
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: on any AI, you will not find anybody doing it
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: because it has not been done. So like they could
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: say it's been done before, but it literally hasn't. So
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that's all I do. I just, you know, I just
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: lead by action because I believe something that we do
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: a lot, especially a lot of people in the black community,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: is oftentimes we can just talk and not actually do anything,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: and so I kind of do the opposite. Instead of talking,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I just do it.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: I wondered, Yes, amen to that, Amen to that. I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: was wondering, because you have the Clean skincare line, Is
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: it the same process because a lot of the well
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: petroleum obviously can be turned into a lot of things.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Is it the same process that you're using for the Clean?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not, And that's the big irony. So my brand
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: jab Roma, where I make on Nature deodorant and bug
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: repellent and hairsprand stuff. The whole point of that stuff
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: is that it is free from petroleum because you know,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I learned the game of petroleum. I learned how plastic
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: is made of petroleum. But I also learned how almost
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: everything in this world is, including almost all cosmetic products, deodorant,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: like all this stuff. And I'm like, it's messed up
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: because I also know that almost everything petroleum based is
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: a link to leukemia, link to cancer, link to blah
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: blah blah. And I'm like, we're putting this on our
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: bodies every day. So that's why I started my brand Jabburoma.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: That's the deodorant exactly the orderans causing cancer. Yeah, I
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: mean anything that that you've yeah, anything that's petroleum based
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: right that you're allowing to be absorbed into your skin,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: has always been linked to some type of tumors and cancers.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: And that's just always been the case. It always has.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: It's carcinogenic. Yeah, that's just we know that that's this
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: is fact. So the fact that it's legal is what's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: surprising to me. And the fact that there's no good
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: natural alternatives like my natural hairspray that I make, my
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: natural hair and beard spray. There is no all Natural
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Hair and the Beard Spray on the market. There's sprays
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I will say on the front, natural clean, you turn
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: the ingredients on the back, got all types of Benzo eights,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And so I started that brand from the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: kind of the same perspective of Nature Jet, where it's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: like I don't see something right being done, and I'm
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: just gonna be the one to do it. And I'm
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: also never gonna sell out, because what happens is a
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: lot of brands will start pure, but then they start
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: to get, you know, some buzz. Then they get some
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: a big brand or investor come buy them out, change
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: the formulas.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for a face for the Beard brand,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: let me know, got you.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: I got you.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: So the Rose Royce talk about that you did an
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: experiment recently with the Rose Royce and that was on
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: social media. You had the girls explain the marketing behind
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: it and explain how it actually worked.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Sure, So this weekend March twenty first, I ran a
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Rose Royce Dawn Jabbar Westbrooks Rose Royce Dawn
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: off of one hundred percent plast DeLine. That was the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: first luxury engine, the first V twelve engine in the world,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the most expensive vehicle ever to operate off a plastlein
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: and yes, I'm actually let you brought up that point.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Because this this event, I took a different marketing perspective.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Usually for all my events of the past, I'll just
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: purely do all the marketing where I'm just like, hey, guys,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: we're gonna run this engine. Cool, let's do it. But
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: this I took a different marketing approach because I felt
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: like this was like monumental to do a Rose Royce.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: So I almost wanted to like give the the marketing
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: vibe of like this is what we're like the lifestyle
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: of a Rose Royce, to look of a Rose Royce.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: So like, for example, in my marketing videos, I would
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: of course have Rose Royces in the background. I'd have
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: models in the background because I'm like, I'm like, this
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: is this is a different type of person that we're
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: appealing to a different type of audience, and we're running
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: this type of vehicle, like a Rose Royce owner is
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: a different type of person.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: For example, when I I had one of my videos
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: where I'm telling people that we're gonna do this event,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: and then I had like a who hundred of models
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: in the background, and then a lot of my people
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: were actually upset at that because they're like, you know you, well, yeah,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: they're like you you sold out. They're like, we we
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: would watch the video with or without woman in the background.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: But I was like, I hear you, guys, but you
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: also are kind of pu that it worked because you
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: are common team and that's the whole point. And this
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: video did get a few hundred thousand views. But my
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: perspective was like, okay, like I understand where you're coming from,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: but this is you know, marketing is psychology, and no
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: matter how you put it, you proved it because you
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: watched the video. I mean I put models in the video,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: you watched it, and this is a Rolls Royce, so
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: it's fitting. It makes sense. I think that people may
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: have been upset and seen it as one way or
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: another because this is our marketing strategy that's been done forever,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: so they kind of see it as, oh, he just
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: sold out to like the typical strategies. But I made
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: it very clear that like, for example, the model I
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: didn't have in my video, I took them dress formula
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: because we're trying to look like luxury Vibe and so
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: from my perspective, I saw it as a success because
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: it got the attention of people, it fit the vibe,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: and also I liked the way the vision came out
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: it very much, you know. To me, it almost is
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: like filming a movie in a sense, like fast and
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: furious type of thing. And so I think that going forward,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: whatever I do anything type of luxury vehicle, like one
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: day I gotta run a Bugatti and gotta run it ferrari,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I think that that would just be how we do
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: that for those more luxury vehicles. I think what it
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: was is people always see me as such a people's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: person because, like you know, I started in my backyard.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I've run many vehicles that are just common everyday people vehicles.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: So even by me just running a Rose Voice, it
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: ups as some people because they're like, why are you
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: doing this? Like that's not realistic. We you know, doing
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: that doesn't prove anything because the average person would ever
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: be able to run a Rose Orse. But I'm like, guys,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I proven that they're running your vehicle and you're running
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: a Rose Rooce.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: So you know, like I learned that from that perspective.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I learned that, you know, people will all can always
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: have something to say, and even like my own people
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: can be thick on in that way. Because at some
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: point when I was in the middle of the marketing,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: it actually really upset me because I was putting so
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: much into it, like this is the most I've ever
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: marketed an event, Like I was throwing together shoots out
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: here in Atlanta for this and taking so much time
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: just for people to kind of be complaining. But then
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I realized, like it really doesn't matter, Like even my
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: own supporters, you know, unfortunately, it really doesn't even matter
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: what people say. And I can't take anything too heart
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: to not even to you can't even take the support
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: to heart too much. You can't take the support or
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: the critics to tart too much because at the end
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: of the day, you have a certain vision and path
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: that you're doing, and as long as your intentions are
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: are pure, does like there will always be times where
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: people will it can appear the perspective can look one
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: way or the other, and the intentions are all that matters.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: And I knew my intentions from the beginning was I'm
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: trying to get this out there. I'm trying to raise
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: funds to this next machine, and I'm trying to prove
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: this works in the V twelve engine, a Rose Royce engine.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: And you know, whether you appreciate how that was displayed
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: or not, if my vision is I wanted to I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: want to market it this way, to demonstrate this luxury vibe,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: then I just have to stand on that, you know,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: because people will always have some type of complaints and
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: some type of some people always enjoy too.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: You know, off your list.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: I got a question I think talking to you, to
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: you here today, I think I have the answer, but
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: I want this two part. Has there been a company
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: that has all for you a sum to say we
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: want to acquire or merge with you? Right? We see
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: that happen in tech all the time. Right, we just
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: saw you know, Meta and Manna is right, we saw
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: Nvidia with Gronk, right, that somebody's doing something that we
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: need to add to our business, let's acquire it.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Has that happened and if so, would you ever?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's happened. It happens all the time, and it's
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: actually happened on both sides where it will be something
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: more polite, like a business would just say hey, you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: like a Pyalysis come back, I got like one of
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: the biggest paralysis companies in the world try to buy
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: me off and bring me on. And sometimes it'll be
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: like that's simple. But then sometimes it'll be like, for example,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: back in December, I was getting notices in the mail
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: over and over again. This company will say, hey, you
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: infringed on our patent. We're gonna sue you. You have
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: three choices. Either one, come work for us. Two they
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: said they said stop doing your work, or three what
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: was the third option? There was some nonsense, but either way,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I knew it was a bluff because I'm like, okay,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: you said I infringed on your paddent, but you didn't
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: even attach the paddent number in the letter. So I
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: was like, this is whatever. They sent like three letters
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: certified mail, but back to back. I kept ignoring it.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: And then at one point the last lee they sent,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: they were like, Okay, since you've been ignoring our request,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: we took off the option for you to come work
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: for us. Like I knew that was the job one
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: it the whole time. So like I get those type
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: of things, like you know, some people in industries are intimidated.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: You know this Sam come there, sent me those letters
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: they were emailing me before emailing me the same thing,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: and then I get I get these phone calls all
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: the time when people were being like like I said, like,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: people will just say things to me like hey, I
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: want to get half of your company for one hundred thousand,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: or hey, you know, they look for ain type of
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: situation where they can come in and creep in, where
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: they're like, especially when I'm building and I'm raising funds,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you want that built, Okay, we'll get
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: that built for you. They just give me half of
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: your company whatever. And I've always said no, because just
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: the perspective of somebody approaching me like that prove they're
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: not the type of person I want to work with,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: right because you're already approaching for that perspective of purely like,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: how can I make as much profit from this as possible?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: And I already know like, if that's your perspective, that's
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna work, because yes, of course this can make
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: this will make money, it will be profitable, but that's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: the money, and the profit from this is the byproduct.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: I've been investing five years into this. I've invested I
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: don't even know how much money into this. I haven't
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: made a dollar of revenue from nature jab and I'm
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: not even upset at that because that was never the goal.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: The goal was we're gonna solve the plastic problem. And
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: with that, I just know and have faith that the
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: money would just come. I mean, we all know it.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: That's why people, that's why so many people email me
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: about investing, because it's obvious if you're looking at you
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: making one hundred and ten octane gasoline from plastic, diesel
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: from plastic that burns cleaner, you're solving two problems at once.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: You're gonna make the money. So it's like if people
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: would just have some faith, then it know, we'd all
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: be okay.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Opportunity.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the recycling is a billion dollar
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: industry in itself, fuels trillion dollar do it all together.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, and then we're not even talking
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: about credits because see that's another thing of faith, because
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: some people want to talk about this or that, and
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, listen, there's gonna come a time in
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: this day wherever it's such thing as a plastic credits,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Like are we at carbon credits? When the world the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: World Health Organization you in finally catch us up to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: how bad plastic is. You will get paid to truly
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: destroy plastic. I know it. And when that happens, these
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: machines will be the next gold rush. It will be
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: the next gold mine, because companies don't even care about
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: the environment will get a machine just to be able
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: to get their plastic credits. It will happen. It has
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: to happen because I know what happened, because microplastics are
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: literally a pandemic, that's a hidden pandemic nobody's even talking about.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: And it's been that way. Zero point five percent of
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: our brains are metaplastic on average. Point that's it's only
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. That's crazy.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: Well, my brother, I appreciate it. Man, definitely glad that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: we got this conversation. This was something that was very,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: like I said, very enlightening.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: Continue to work, Oh you do. How can people donate?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: How can they support? Like, what's the website? Social all
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: that stuff?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: So now I have jab Innovations dot org that just started.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: That's my nonprofit website. You can also get there to
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: naturejab dot com slash donate to get directly to that link.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of scammers that imitate me
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: and have fake websites and profiles. You have to go
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: directly from my stuff, and that's the most direct way
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: that somebody can donate. But also from a business perspective,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I understand businesses are always about like how can we
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: be at you know, how can we advantage from this?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: And that's why I have my sponsorship opportunities with like
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the bus, where this is an amazing marketing opportunity for
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: any type of business where you can get your logo
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: on the side of my bus that will tore the
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: entire United States and get billions of views online, hundreds
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: of millions of impressions on the road and in person.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: And then and then of course you're aligning your business
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: with the emission that's doing something good for the world,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: so that that can be done to you. Go to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: naturejab dot com slash mark five. There's a sponsorship form
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: that could be filled out, and we actually, uh, this
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: is April is the last month we're accepting sponsors because
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: we're actually going to be wrapping the bus in May
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: with all the logos finalized. So those are the two
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: direct ways that you can support. One is, of course
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: a more charitable donation and the other is a more
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: business investment opportunity. And so there you go. And of course,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: outside of that, anybody else that wants to volunteer to
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: actually physically build the machine. We're building it in Woodstock, Georgia,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: you go to nature jab dot com slash mark five
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: and we have the volunteer form that you can fill
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: out as well.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it was that we could break this news
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: right here U till we haven't announced it yet, but
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: you was that investment last year and now it's the
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: full circle. You'll be speaking at invest Fest this year. Yes,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: so that's going to be that's gonna be packed. That's
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: gonna be crazy when you talk. So thank you for
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: doing that. But just another way to raise awareness and
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: get more people involved and hopefully more people, you know,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: can be on the same mission as you, because like
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: you said, it is it is a problem. I've seen
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: the first thing I went to boy us in beaches
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  Speaker 4: littered with plastic bottles, and you know, plastic and that's
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  Speaker 4: something that's not, like you said, it's not talked about enough,
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  Speaker 4: but it is definitely a major problem from an environmental standpoint.
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  Speaker 4: So the fact that you know you're bringing awareness to
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  Speaker 4: this I think is very commendable. So appreciate that, and I.
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  Speaker 5: Appreciate the fact that you talked about the content. Obviously,
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  Speaker 5: we travel there a lot, and we said that we
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  Speaker 5: were in a few countries. We're like, the plastic issue
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  Speaker 5: here is like you said, this is pandemic and we
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  Speaker 5: see it having affordability to try to solve it.
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  Speaker 2: It's brilliant. So we thank you. That's why I said,
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  Speaker 2: we got to make sure you say that all and
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  Speaker 2: we don't make sure we do that. So thank you
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  Speaker 2: for joining us. Absolutely, yes sir.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Sign my brother, all right, I shall thank you for
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Rock Must Sing. You guys are in the best fest.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Yes sir,