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July 4, 2025 · The Hot Line w/ Jeff Graham

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  [SPEAKER_20]: People are all ready.
• 0:11
  [SPEAKER_20]: Staking out their best spots for tonight's capital for its celebration on the national mall.
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  [SPEAKER_35]: I think it's going to look pretty cool.
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  [SPEAKER_35]: So I'm really excited.
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  [SPEAKER_08]: We came to celebrate for the July.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: President Trump is holding his own celebration up the block of the White House the day after his budget bill made it through the House of Representatives.
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  [SPEAKER_31]: People signed a legislation later today in to law, inviting all members of Congress to be there.
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  [SPEAKER_31]: The event will be followed by a fourth of July celebration, including a military jet flyover, complete with a B-two stealth bomber.
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  [SPEAKER_31]: the same jet used during the strike against Iranian nuclear enrichment sites last month.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: His remarks included this attempt at showing how Americans will save money.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: The reference has long been considered anti-Semitic, but Trump claims he had no idea.
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  [SPEAKER_19]: No, I've never heard of that way.
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  [SPEAKER_19]: To me, Chilox is somebody that say a money lender at high rates.
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  [SPEAKER_23]: Thousands of Palestinians heard it into a long, fainst of corridor forced into a demeaning scramble for food, amid bullets and stun grenades.
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  [SPEAKER_23]: Then the unmistakable sound of American accents.
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  [SPEAKER_23]: The contractor spoke on condition his identity was concealed.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When this guy was shooting into this group, this man dropped to the ground and was motionless.
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  [SPEAKER_23]: J. H. F. said the person heard shouting in the video had been removed from the site, but gave no further detail.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Fireworks, of course, are a fourth of July tradition.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Animal experts, those say taking your pet to a firework show is a bad idea.
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  [SPEAKER_12]: Fireworks are fun for us, but for our pets, it's frightening.
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  [SPEAKER_12]: Those booms go off.
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  [SPEAKER_12]: They panic and they run.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: because he says more animals run away from home or wherever on the fourth than on any other day of the year.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: Doctors and veterans group say that fireworks make for a bad night for combat vets with PTSD and ask that people be considerate of them as well.
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  [SPEAKER_20]: How much will your fourth July celebration cost?
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  [SPEAKER_36]: According to a report by Wells Fargo's Agra Food Institute, you'll spend around a hundred thirty bucks for food in beverages for ten people this year.
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  [SPEAKER_36]: That's an over two percent increase from last year, but not everything is more expensive.
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  [SPEAKER_36]: While ground beef for your burgers is priceier up nearly seven and a half percent, hot dogs are still relatively cheap, with prices remaining stable.
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  [SPEAKER_36]: You might want to skip the devil eggs with egg prices still up forty percent.
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  [SPEAKER_36]: Watermelon and strawberries are having a good season and prices are slightly down.
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  [SPEAKER_36]: Wash it all down with a beer or glass of wine, but no, you'll pay about two percent more than last year.
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  [SPEAKER_39]: For today, mostly sunny, pleasant and less humid with high-seventy-four, good viewing conditions tonight for fireworks, partly cloudy with low-fifty-four, cloudy and warmer tomorrow with high up to eighty-five, partly sunny and hot on Sunday with high up to ninety-one.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Hi, one speaking of America.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: This is the United States birthday year two forty nine happy birthday America really was I think July second.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: They decided to wait for the fourth on the decoration of independence.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And then we know what happened after we got a kind of selves of victory.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Then we got ourselves a constitution that a constitutional convention, which was yielded that yielded a constitution.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And then we just had a country a civil war.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: World War I World War II.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Throw in Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf War, and we all were out today after Afghanistan and Iraq.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: A lot of pride.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I do think these four fighters of this generation as good as he gets to.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: This is a big hour for our show.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: We like to bring back some interviews that really stood out.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And this one is especially good because Palantir has a chief technology officer who also found his way into the army.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Why?
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Because of the first time in my lifetime, especially after nine eleven, we have the tech sector.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Yes, Silicon Valley working with the defense department in order.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: to make us on put us on the technical edge ahead of China and keeping us say finally the tech people understand there's a reason to have a military they know they're in a fight with China on the tech race but they also know the China wants to make it weaponry they want to dominate militarily
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And if they take Taiwan, by the way, that also affects the tech world.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_26]: But you have very patriotic people there.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_26]: I tend to think the AI people are more conservative than the social media people, you know, the Zuckerberg era.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_26]: But they're even coming around.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: So my next guest is Shyam Shankar.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_26]: He is Palantir's chief technology officer.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_26]: He has gotten offered during the military.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: He's going to go through his basic training, but basically he's going in as an officer while keeping his job because Palantir is a key defense contractor.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And his story is really not worthy.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And he's a proud first.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I think first generation American hears his story hears his job.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Listen.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me, Brian.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: First off, congratulations on the position.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I wanted to take you to get that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, many years in the business.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I've been at Poucher more than nineteen years now.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I joined us at thirteen theme employee.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it's a twenty year overnight success, as they say.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_26]: Wow.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_26]: What would roll this government contracts play in that end and with the defense industry?
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're a unique sort of business in the present moment, but it, it hurricanes back to America's proud tradition in history.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're fifty-fifty private sector and government.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's really important because it allows us to leverage all of the private sector innovations that we're developing on the factory floor to help improve our national security.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_26]: Palintu was creative for what reason.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: to solve the problems that were revealed after nine eleven we couldn't connect the dots we had all of the data but we didn't have privacy enhancing technologies that enabled agencies to actually share that information we didn't have the interfaces that allowed ordinary human analyst to make sense of what was going on to see the enemy faster than they could hurt us and that it really that's where it started i i sometimes say
• 9:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you want to be cynical, it took something as sexy as James Bond to motivate engineers to work on a problem as boring as data integration.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: But now the business is growing to be something that whether you're working on the kill chain or the value chain, it's broadly applicable to American prosperity.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_26]: So he was crazy is that that should be the objective of the federal government on some level it is, but somehow the private sector is much more equipped to make quicker progress when correct.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: With the it's the frontier spirit of America, you know, we forget that who built the arsenal of democracy, you know, we we took build notes in who was the number two executive at GM.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He he perfected mass production.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He we enlisted Henry Kaiser and Kelly Johnson and tons of engineers.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: There were more deaths on the factory floor in World War II and until nineteen forty three.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Then the deaths in the Fox sold out past it.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: There is a powerful tradition of the American industrial base that's far beyond the traditional defense contracting.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it looks like when we're winning.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We're leveraging all of America's strengths.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Today, that strength is really an AI.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not an accident that all those AI labs are American.
• 10:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a strategic asset that we have, and we need to enlist it in the national interests.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_26]: Why do why should we not fear it?
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because AI is going to give American workers superpowers.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need to be the first to employ it, to provide for our national prosperity here.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's certainly been a lot of fear of mongering.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand that response.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think anytime there's a big technology shift, that's a natural first response here.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But we should be wielding it and taming it.
• 10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just like we put a man on the moon, we built the aerospace industry.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: The American worker built the twentieth century.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: The American worker is going to build the twenty-first century.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_26]: Did you feel as though the last administration, I don't really want to diminish what you do to politics, was not embracing this cutting edge technology.
• 11:05
  [SPEAKER_26]: It was not embracing everything from crypto, which is nothing to do with you guys to stuff like AI.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: They're trying to keep it at arms like you're understating it.
• 11:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was a full on halt and assault on technological progress.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It was doomerism.
• 11:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was a lack of belief in ourselves in the American spirit.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: really we we we we were doing a lot of hand ringing around AI safety at the expense of AI efficacy you know it's not enough to just have the miracle of this technology the question is who is going to be the first to employ it to enhance the prosperity of their nation how do you characterize this administration's view of AI
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: very much on the front foot.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they've got the right ideas, they're charging hard at it.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: They know that at the, at the fundamental level, it's about the primacy of people.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we have exceptional Americans here.
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've come up with this approach.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you partner with them?
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you enable them?
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you make sure the benefits accrue to all of America?
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_26]: I think it was about four years ago when Altman came one on was thing was on a couple of networks, maybe ABC and said, here's what AI can do.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_26]: Where it about the parameters does think there should be some type of guardrails up, but you let him know that there's no, this is just the beginning of a revolutionary technology.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_26]: That was chat, GPT.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: What has happened since?
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think we've developed a much stronger pay.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at Europe, they're still stuck in the deumerism.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are studying the problem.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're admiring it.
• 12:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at American commercial companies, they have rolled up their sleeves.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: They have grease on their elbows.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're experimenting with it.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're putting into production.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: AI now helps manage more than thirty percent of hospital beds in the U.S.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: American workers are producing more quickly, more efficiently.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's going to help us re-industrialize.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: at the beginning of World War II, we were the best at mass production.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was our asymmetric advantage.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Today, as we look at the threats out there, our adversaries, the best at mass production.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is our strategy?
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: China.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 12:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is our strategy for reindustrialization in a B?
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in this David versus Glyath battle, we need to do it asymmetrically.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What are our strengths?
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's software.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's AI.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ninety percent of tech market cap in the world is American to say we're dominant there, understates the case, really.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So how do we leverage the
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: innovation base that we have in the country to actually win.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_26]: When they say open, well, like, for example, famously Elon Musk and all men have this huge rift because we wanted to make it non-profit.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, can you to subscribe that, for example, if Palantir comes up with AI, and then the nuance and other wrinkle to AI that moves it forward, is it open to other companies?
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, our approach is really the AI infrastructure.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we sit on top of the models.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We help people actually use the AI to drive business use cases.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've automated AIGs insurance underwriting process.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've automated sepsis monitoring at Tampa General Hospital.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think what we really see that's happening out there is that deep seek moment.
• 13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: China released their kind of stolen open model as an attack on American AI.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And very clearly, there's an important and big role for open models.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need, that's the foundation of the stack.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we need American companies building on American AI.
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_26]: So you say as CTO, you feel like you joined the army.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_26]: You talk about your personal journey.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_26]: Your dad was in a mud hut in India.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_26]: And now you sit here at the top of one of the leading companies in the country and Silicon Valley.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_26]: But what do you mean you're in the army?
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've literally been direct commissioned a Lieutenant Colonel and the U.S.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Army Reserve.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I helped start a new program.
• 14:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me and three other folks, the CTO of Mehta, the Chief Product Officer of Open AI and the former Chief Research Officer of Open AI.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: We hope we're the first
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: four of many after our commissioning ceremony last Friday thousands of people in tech reached out.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've spent the last twenty years building a bridge between tech and DC and I think to have the next level of impact.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually had to put on the uniform and cross that bridge to walk many miles and the footsteps of our brave US soldiers to your brain and your experience got you past boot camp.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, that's right.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have my fitness test coming up at the end of July.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_26]: You're fit, by the way.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_26]: People are watching and ready.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_26]: We're on stream, but you're very, you're a very fit guy.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: But it means a lot to you.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_26]: You're a patriotic guy.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the importance, I took a lot away from my dad's journey.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: We were living in Nigeria at the time.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dad was very successful at a young age.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a horrible arm robbery in the house.
• 15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: They almost executed dad.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They killed the dog.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: We left all of our earthly possessions behind and started over again in Orlando.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was never successful again later in life.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that it's kind of a more interesting version of the American dream.
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that always reminded us of the counterfactual.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But for the grace of this nation, you'd be dead in the ditch and Lagos.
• 15:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it is about life, liberty, and possibility.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is here could not happen anywhere else.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah, I remember I was doing a speech in Pennsylvania and I got picked up by a guy and we were engaging at a forty five-minute ride to the airport.
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_26]: And he said, you know, I've come from India here.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_26]: You know, I have the American dream, but I'm still driving a car.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: I go.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_26]: So I go back to family goes, well, my one sense at West Point is another one in the opposite of the one said, yeah, let me go.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_26]: There's the American dream.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: Exactly.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: You have, you know, you're doing the hard work.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_26]: Your kids appreciate it.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_26]: They see you.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_26]: They're going to be successful.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_26]: That's how it starts.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that we will defend.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_26]: So yeah, so that's really what it is.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_26]: It's like building up your legacy, appreciate what you have.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_26]: On a side note, I hear Nigeria is the most successful.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_26]: a country to come to the U.S.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_26]: predominantly when they come here, they usually do better than almost everybody else.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_26]: Do you remember the infrastructure there that led to this?
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's a long.
• 16:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was the early eighties for me.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think a lot of it has to do with mindset, you know, great determination, willingness to work hard, gratitude for the opportunities that are in front of you.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_26]: And by the way, with speaking to Sean Shanker, he's Palantir's Chief Technology Officer.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_26]: One big thing that people worried about is retaliation from the situation we're in right now.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_26]: And one thing that Iran prides themselves on is there's cyber attacks to the ability to hack.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: Should we be worried about this?
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we shouldn't underestimate them.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really the CTO in the engine room.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I view my role as making sure the President, we elected Donald J. Trump for a reason.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: He's the right man to lead us through this, has all of the information as fingertips he can understand what the adversary is thinking and doing, and has all the options available to him.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's clear that the American people and the President have said that Iran should not have a bomb.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: There are many ways to accomplish that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we should be, we should be thoughtful.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They have tried to hurt the President directly in the past.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think it is a very complicated situation, but we're seeing changes that I think no one would have really imagined two years ago.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: What I find fascinating is that the whole signal problem where everyone has to use this signal app for security was because over the last four years, China has borrowed into all our communications at the federal level.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: So no one can basically, you can't, we have not been told how you communicate at that highest level.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_26]: Is there anything you guys can do with Silicon Valley to help us out there?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we have the talent based to solve many of these problems.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: How do we go after these things?
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  [SPEAKER_26]: How do you protect me?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We have a large surface area to protect the way, you know, our offense for defense is very asymmetric.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We kind of leave a lot of doors open on the defense side to illustrate another example of that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at the first strikes that happened in Iran, it was actually the Israelis built bases on Iranian soil from which they launched those attacks.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I think as we think about that offense defense dialectic there, we need to be thinking about how we protect the homeland and make sure that the land the Chinese are buying near our bases are not weaponized against us.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And lastly, big picture question.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I heard JD events describe Silicon Valley as this.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Can you shed some light into that?
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Because he's a people not on a page or a bio.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: These are the people you know.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, there is this emergence of the tech right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a belief in American exceptionalism, a belief in being able to do things, a willingness to serve the national interests, a gratitude for everything that America has created.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's the kernel from which Silicon Valley is rebuilding itself.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a return to the normalcy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: We forget that in the fifties, Lockheed Martin was the largest employer in Silicon Valley.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Silicon Valley's roots are in defense.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's where the Valley came from.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: But there was a point where, around the last year's the George Bush, Google and other companies were going, we don't want you to use our technology for the Pentagon or defense.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I was, I thought that was unpatriarchment actually.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: So I'd use our technology for the Pentagon or defense.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I was, I thought that was unpatriarchment.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: actually, so I think that's the deranged period of the valley, and we're getting back to normalcy and clarity of thought and gratitude for the nation.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Have you seen Eric you was saying that Iran is hacked some of our cameras in the past?
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah, Israel is warning that Iran can hack our cameras.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I mean, that's how real the technology that you guys are working on are.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: So you think they're capable?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're capable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: They're very capable.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: North Korea to yes North Korea that you know they have a whole Bitcoin theft ring that helps them finance their existence and you know that the smaller cypress a very asymmetric capability you don't have to be very big you don't have to have a lot of GDP to be able to do it
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not bad at either as a nation, but defense is much harder than offense.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And lastly, just a shout out side, or usually when you have the type of skills that you have, you work for the federal government.
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• 35:00
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• 35:03
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• 35:20
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• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_30]: You're with Brian Kilmead.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_26]: We are back in Jennifer Say is our guest CEO of XXXY Athletics, also an author, filmmaker, outstanding business person and executive and retired national champion gymnast.
• 35:37
  [SPEAKER_26]: Jennifer, great to see you.
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_26]: Thanks for having me.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: Are you surprised, number one, that this was even an issue?
• 35:42
  [SPEAKER_26]: If I told you this was going to be an issue, trans men and women sports, ten years ago, would you have said to me?
• 35:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I would have said you were nuts.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't have believed it.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: And in fact, I remember having conversations with Nancy Hogg said, who's an Olympics swimmer at Olympic gold medalist from nineteen eighty four in like twenty seventeen and she was already on this.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, I don't know.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
• 36:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it's going to be a huge deal.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I get that it's not fair, but it just keeps accelerating.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: Even since Trump's executive order in February, it's accelerated in blue states.
• 36:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think we're going to get to the point where in blue states boys went all the tracking field gold medals.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's where I get close to.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_26]: And could you take a backtrek a little?
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_26]: What does it mean to you?
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_26]: You're you're a highly successful athlete.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_26]: Give everybody an idea of your athletic background.
• 36:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I had a pretty unusual childhood.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a gymnast in the seventies and eighties.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Seven-time national team member in nineteen eight six national champion.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um, so, you know, competed at the highest levels of this sport world championships.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: All of that.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, yes, Texas gymnastics.
• 36:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Sorry, but no regular.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: The four events being vault bars and floor.
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: Um,
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was in early whistleblower twenty years later about the abuse in the sport, which is a separate story.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was the very first whistleblower about the emotional physical and sexual abuse in the sport.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I'm kind of used to saying, true, but inconvenient things.
• 37:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: But what I always tell people is at an athlete of that level, you lose a lot.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: You lose more than you win.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, honestly, we don't all win all the time except Simone.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: She wins all the time.
• 37:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: She went ten years without losing a competition that she entered.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, can you think of another athlete that's done that?
• 37:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not possible.
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you get really good at it.
• 37:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you build resilience and you get up when you fall down and you get up when you lose.
• 37:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: But I couldn't accept a fight that wasn't fair.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, when I was competing, the Eastern Black athletes were using steroids.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: That was a big deal.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, we were tested before every competition.
• 37:35
  [SPEAKER_26]: I still remember the Sports Illustrated column with these East German women back.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_26]: And next.
• 37:41
  [SPEAKER_26]: And like these perfect fees and acne.
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and so, you know, that would have been difficult hard to accept.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't feel like you have a fair fight in the competition, you want to give up.
• 37:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why bother?
• 37:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's my fear with all of this is all of the gains for women and girls and sports.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, I think a thousand times more girls compete in high school sports and they did in nineteen seventy-two and tile nine pass.
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's so many benefits to come with that.
• 38:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: If you know, it's not fair.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: If you don't have fair shot of making the team possibly winning, you're going to give up and you're not going to do it.
• 38:16
  [SPEAKER_26]: Why bother?
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why bother?
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: So I really see it as an existential threat to women's sports.
• 38:21
  [SPEAKER_26]: So remember, a title nine came into play in the controversy was, if you're going to have men sports, you got to have as just as many women as men.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_26]: And it was hard to reconfigure still is because football is so many people and we don't play football, but they're solving that too.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_26]: Because I think women are going into flag and I think that could help balance things out.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_26]: But I mean, said that that was the debate.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: I remember doing stories, I used to do all sports with the women's sports foundation over in Eisenhower Park.
• 38:46
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah, and we used to go over there and we used to talk about the balance and women getting the same opportunities.
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_26]: And then we beat that debate and it becomes okay.
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_26]: I get it now.
• 38:55
  [SPEAKER_26]: Let's have equal opportunity.
• 38:56
  [SPEAKER_26]: And let's try to get the pros balanced down.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_26]: The women's national soccer team.
• 39:00
  [SPEAKER_26]: I was there with a hundred and one thousand at the Rose ball and nine.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_26]: So I could truly appreciate it.
• 39:06
  [SPEAKER_26]: And all of a sudden, women in sports didn't matter anymore.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_26]: Now we're talking about transmit how dare you challenge a gender-confused person who wants to go be women in their sport.
• 39:17
  [SPEAKER_26]: I thought, wait a second, didn't we have this argument thirty years ago?
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I would argue the minute a male breaches the boundary of women's sports.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's not women's sports anymore.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, the women's category is basically open now.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_37]: Right.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: males who think they're women compete in women's women who think they're men competing women's everybody competes in women's only men competing men's and so I mean essentially women's sports is already done for if we don't if we don't fix this and let's be clear the more boys the enter the more boys will win when boys compete in girls sports they win they do
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_26]: I know.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_26]: I mean, a key of management and playing soccer field hockey.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_26]: We've already seen it field hockey.
• 39:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: The girl got her teeth knocked out by a boy in volleyball.
• 40:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: They've been, you know, Peyton McNabb with a traumatic brain injury from being spiked in the face with a ball.
• 40:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: But the
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: And this is what their side uses.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: They say, well, they don't always win.
• 40:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: So that means it's fair.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, it doesn't.
• 40:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: They still have male advantage.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are still bigger, faster, stronger, just because they were really crappy male athletes and don't win in women.
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_06]: It doesn't mean they don't have unfair advantage.
• 40:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: Every male that takes steroids doesn't win the tour to France.
• 40:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Only Lance Armstrong did.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: He still had unfair advantage.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: Every man that took
• 40:32
  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah, but you get better than you would have been with unfair advantage.
• 40:35
  [SPEAKER_26]: So, Jennifer, just.
• 40:47
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, how do you handle this argument?
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_26]: So I had Jason Crow here, a special forces congressman, Democrat.
• 40:54
  [SPEAKER_26]: And I just said, well, the one thing I agree on, right, you don't have to transmit a women's sports.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_26]: And those, well, that's a fake issue.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: It almost never happens.
• 41:03
  [SPEAKER_26]: And that's an issue that Donald Trump made up in order to win an election.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_26]: And that seems to be the Democratic go to in your former Democrat.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_26]: Is that a spin you can accept?
• 41:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's it's false.
• 41:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's just a line that you don't care how many times you say it.
• 41:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's still false this year alone.
• 41:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: Over, I think it's about a hundred high school male tracking field athletes have won.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_06]: They've been on the podium in women's tracking field in high school.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: That means they're going to get college scholarships and all likelihood if they're winning state competitions.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_06]: And I'll get to the NCAA in a second.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they are stealing Teamverse.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're robbing girls of the opportunity to stand to top the podium and celebrate their hard work in their win.
• 41:43
  [SPEAKER_06]: a hundred times this year already in tracking field alone that's one sport so that's a lie that it's not happening and the thing is with the folks that claim that that say it's like the minute you point it out they go well it's a good thing it's a try for civil rights so they're all over the place and then then they go to what do you want you want general checks which is not what would happen it's a simple chiefs what one time it's done it's less invasive than the drug testing that I endured at every single competition we had a piano cup with someone watching to make sure we weren't taking performance enhancing drugs
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's less invasive than getting weighed in publicly for wrestling or boxing or all the things.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they go from one argument to the next.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's ridiculous.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's accelerating unfortunately since the executive order was signed because the blue states are leaning in.
• 42:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: So no, he's wrong.
• 42:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's incorrect.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_26]: So when Gavin Newsom says, you know, it does seem unfair.
• 42:32
  [SPEAKER_26]: He doesn't do anything about it.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_26]: And Calville, he got he's getting away as if he's enlightened.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_26]: He's done nothing.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, not only is he not doing anything.
• 42:39
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's now working against us.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's he's suing the federal government to continue to allow athletes like AB Hernandez, a boy who won two state track and field championships and two events.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's suing the federal government to continue to allow that to happen.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so he's full of it.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: He says one thing.
• 42:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: He's trying to appear moderate.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: He doesn't want to take a stand and risk angering the far left in his state and nationally, but he tries to play both sides.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: You gotta take a stand here, have some moral courage in a backbone, stand up for girls.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_06]: Why are we, we're telling, this is the part that bugs me the most, upsets me the most.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: We are telling these young girls that they don't matter, that their opportunities don't matter.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: And every time a young girl stands up and says, what about us?
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's vilified as a bigot.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so still, we're
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_26]: I feel like you're getting the momentum back here, or you're getting it for the first time.
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're getting some momentum, but I'll tell you.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I talk to almost every girl that stands up.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_06]: And what they deal with is pretty brutal.
• 43:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: We work with a woman.
• 43:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's not a high school athlete.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: She's older.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_06]: She ran the Boston Marathon in like two hours and forty-five minutes.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Really, really fast.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: She took a stand because Boston allowed males to run in the women's category this year.
• 43:59
  [SPEAKER_26]: She just built female that day.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
• 44:01
  [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
• 44:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: They also have a non-binary category, which guess who wins?
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_06]: Men every time.
• 44:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: She got kicked off her team.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: Her running club kicked her off.
• 44:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: They told her don't wear your jersey to run with our team.
• 44:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: A team she's been on for ten years.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: Lost friends.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: She was stalked and harassed on her running app.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: So people would know where she was on the field.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: to threaten her and yell at her and throw things at her.
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: So that's pretty tough situation for someone that really, I mean, I deal with it all the time, right?
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: He deals with it all the time, but when you're new to it, it's pretty brutal.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_26]: But you remember when Riley Gaines was forced into San Francisco, I think it was forced into that classroom security, couldn't get her out.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_26]: She locked herself where she was forced to stay in there.
• 44:45
  [SPEAKER_26]: Now she's tried to feel like she's treated more heroically than she was back then, right?
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: She absolutely is.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, look at what happened with Simone Biles, you know, Simone attacked her on X and did not expect.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think the clap back she got.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: I think Simone lives in a world where everybody agrees with her and everybody tells her she's great and that everything she wants.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and everything she says is great and she's made this sort of off hand comment.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: She thought she'd get clap some likes and she got
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: a lot of blowback from women on the left on the right because we support Riley and eighty percent of Americans agree that women sports are for women only but here's what I'll just tell you and this is an illustration I think of how far we still have to go not a currently not a single currently competing professional or elite level Olympic level athlete has spoken out
• 45:34
  [SPEAKER_26]: So that we have a way that you're a hundred percent right about that and I think we're going to have a huge problem with the Olympics when they come to Los Angeles with the Olympics are these men going to try to compete in boxing and other things?
• 45:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well the IOC is pathetic and hasn't you know they have a new president the IOC a woman named Christie Coventry she has said in the past that she is for protecting women's sports she has yet to do anything the IOC could wave a wand and make it right tomorrow
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: They could make it right tomorrow.
• 46:05
  [SPEAKER_26]: They could say, how do you make it right?
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_26]: Like, would you say judge it on?
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: You, you, you say only for the checks.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: Acts only.
• 46:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: You must be execs to compete in the women's category.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Men's can be open.
• 46:14
  [SPEAKER_06]: Anyone can compete in men's.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to do sex testing like we did back in nineteen ninety nine.
• 46:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: We ended it with a cheap swab or spit in a cup.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's easy one time then the right you don't have to do it more than once you know to do it like weigh-ins all the time you know I've dragged testing you have to do all the time one time test But the IOC has not done that yet and they've sort of batted it to the individual governing body so world boxing has
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: which is what was so fraught in the last Olympics.
• 46:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's a new governing body for boxing.
• 46:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's called World Boxing, I believe.
• 46:46
  [SPEAKER_06]: They have said a new rule to say you must be execs to compete in women's and we will sex test.
• 46:51
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, yeah, I guess we have to see what happens there.
• 46:53
  [SPEAKER_26]: So you're, you're a parallel.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_26]: This is your business had committed.
• 46:57
  [SPEAKER_26]: It's seen with your athleticism.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_26]: That's right.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_26]: So exec to x y men's women's.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
• 47:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: There's x x, there's x y. That's the truth.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, there are chromosomal abnormalities.
• 47:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are still either male or female.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_26]: And there's that athletic wear.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's athletic wear.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_26]: We're wearing for people that know watching the stream.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_06]: So let me tell you, this is a special item.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: So just yesterday in honor of Title IX, we released what's called a collab in the fashion world with Riley Gaines, our first ever collab.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_06]: So this jacket of the lore, seven days inspired track jacket, the lore is part of the Riley Gaines collection, which is live now.
• 47:38
  [SPEAKER_06]: Very limited edition.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: That's impressive.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_26]: Now what is your parallel background?
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_06]: I worked at Levi's for twenty-three years before that.
• 47:45
  [SPEAKER_06]: I worked at the gap for three years.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: I thirty-plus years as an executive.
• 47:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, twenty-plus as an executive.
• 47:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: Marketing product, e-commerce, lots of things.
• 47:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: Mostly marketing.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_06]: I was a cheap marketing officer at Levi's for eight years, but I was a brand president for two overall product.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, so you have that background.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_26]: You have this mission and you merge them both.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I did and I was part of bringing Levi's back from the brink of bankruptcy in twenty eleven and taking the company public in twenty nineteen with the IPO and I feel like my skill is to create content and brands that intersect with culture and move public opinion.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: I just felt like there's an opportunity or not a single big brand is standing up for women's sports not one.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_26]: So you told me too.
• 48:29
  [SPEAKER_26]: I saw so we've just mentioned Simone Biles got all this blowback, but you also said that you believe every major brand.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_26]: If she came as a Riley Gaines, you're a hero.
• 48:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: I agree with you, a hundred percent men and men should play a men sports, women should play a win sports.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_26]: You believe she would have lost all of her engagement.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_26]: I did.
• 48:47
  [SPEAKER_26]: You know, she got the blowback for saying the opposite.
• 48:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, here, look, I'll talk to you.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll speak to one of her biggest endorsements.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_06]: It might be her biggest is a brand called Athleta.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's an athletic apparel for the game.
• 48:57
  [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and by the gap, it's in San Francisco.
• 49:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: I'll just leave it there.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: They live in a bubble.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: I worked there.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: They were my way from Levi's.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know the people that work there.
• 49:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: They would have been horrified at the half of the criticism.
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_06]: You know, at the people who would have said you're a bigot and they would have let her go and ended her contract.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_26]: How could a female athlete, successful female athlete, ever say, is fine with me?
• 49:28
  [SPEAKER_26]: Do you know anyone of successful active female athlete that actually believes it's okay?
• 49:34
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, I'm transmitting women's sports.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_06]: Well, a lot are saying it.
• 49:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, Megan Rapino is saying, and I don't know.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, just retired, but I think she would have said it even if she was still competing.
• 49:44
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't understand it, but this is why the language matters.
• 49:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: They've got this dumb language in their head that trans women are women.
• 49:51
  [SPEAKER_06]: Trans women are men.
• 49:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: But that that that insidious language has infiltrated the culture.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_06]: And we have to take it back.
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are not women.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_06]: They are men.
• 50:04
  [SPEAKER_06]: And so they think it's big a treat.
• 50:06
  [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's so misguided and stupid.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_06]: And you know, I can't even believe we have to have this.
• 50:12
  [SPEAKER_26]: But Jennifer say making the most of it.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_26]: She's she is the CEO of Act X Y athletics author filmmaker.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_26]: When we come back, Jennifer, just a few, I like to get your take on the economy from the business executive perspective, too.
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, we'll talk more about this.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_26]: He was in the Brian kill me show.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Welcome back.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: A few more minutes.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Just talk about the economy for a second.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And no, it's not going to be a big beautiful bill.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: We've got a very successful executive.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: The CEO of XX, XY athletics, author, filmmaker, business executive retired, national champion, gymnasts, also Jennifer Say, worked at.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: You worked at Levi's for a while and prior to that, you were for?
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Two and a half decades.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: So I was talking to somebody that has an apparel company that was making their shirts in Vietnam.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And they call panic.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: Can you give me an idea what Trump wants to do with Vietnam?
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_26]: What about these trade deals?
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_26]: Have you felt it as you are manufacturing now your own sportswear line?
• 55:49
  [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, look, it's certainly something we need to pay attention to.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: We make all of our cotton goods in Peru.
• 55:54
  [SPEAKER_06]: We've been okay so far.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_06]: We do make some performance wear in Vietnam and we're looking to make more and more in the United States, which is the goal, really.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: Now, the challenge in terms of production in the United States is we don't have the skills and capability here.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You can't find sewing machine operators.
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  [SPEAKER_06]: We don't have the fabric innovation.
• 56:10
  [SPEAKER_06]: We don't have the factory.
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_06]: So it's not a solval overnight, but I'm all for bringing more manufacturing to the United States and doing far less in China.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: We don't produce anything in China because you can't monitor the factories.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: You can't enter.
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_06]: You don't know the working condition.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_06]: So that's off the table for me.
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_26]: So tell me about the consumer.
• 56:26
  [SPEAKER_26]: Does the consumer feel free to spend?
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_06]: you feel as though they're uh... they feel good about the economy when they do they'll spend well when they when they feel optimistic they'll spend i think that they're key indicators are positive despite the gloom and him from the mainstream media
• 56:47
  [SPEAKER_06]: about to hit an all time high unemployment as low.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_06]: People feel optimistic and they do spend money.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_06]: I know for my company, even if we see goods increase in price a bit, we'll just take a margin hit.
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to keep our prices.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_06]: And that's been right now.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And now trees been doing with the tariffs if the money comes in and it's harder to it costs a little bit more.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_26]: They're not making the consumer pay at this point.
• 57:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: Right.
• 57:09
  [SPEAKER_06]: And brands out of China are, there's all these fast fashion brands out of China.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_06]: They're selling you street dollar t-shirts.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_06]: You don't want to know the human rights violation.
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_06]: So they're, you know, everybody's screaming and yelling even though leftling, press about how the prices for these brands has gone up like T-Moo is one of the brands.
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: Who cares?
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want people buying that garbage.
• 57:29
  [SPEAKER_26]: That, that should be the pushback.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_26]: You're happy that slaves are making it the children of doing it and that the wiggers are forced to do it for sure.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_26]: Well, I'll tell you why.
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_26]: It was great to meet you, Jennifer, in person.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_26]: Been seeing you on television a lot.
• 57:42
  [SPEAKER_26]: Jennifer, say, see you on XXY athletics.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_26]: Where do we go to what do your stuff?
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  [SPEAKER_06]: You go to the truthfits.com.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_26]: The truthfits.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: I love it.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Jennifer, say thanks so much.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: And thank all of you for listening.
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  [SPEAKER_26]: Keep it here.
• 57:54
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