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Can Spalletti bring success as new Juve coach? Ep. 286 Ft. Berto from The AJC · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Another season of The Couch Guys, another episode dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: a new coach of Juventus, rather coach, another coach firing
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  Speaker 1: with the Biancoetti. Here on the Couch guys, Johnny A Jiano,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nicholas. You could follow us and all your favorite
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  Speaker 1: us our good friend from across Canada, Berto from the
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  Speaker 1: all Uve Cast.
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  Speaker 2: Berto, how's it going? Doing well? Doing well? Thank you
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  Speaker 2: fellas for the invite. Always an absolute pleasure to mix
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  Speaker 2: it up with you guys, and I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: this session.
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  Speaker 1: So it was one thing I wanted to get a
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  Speaker 1: you a fan of you've a critic, commentator as you
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  Speaker 1: could call yourself on. Obviously, the big news this season,
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  Speaker 1: it's the rough start. Tudor fired after what was it
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  Speaker 1: seven eight match days? Splety comes in after one one
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  Speaker 1: game of caretaker by Oh I had his name, but Brambilla,
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  Speaker 1: so I already forgot. I' mean diehard, you have a
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  Speaker 1: fan and I forgot the guy who coached the team
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  Speaker 1: for three days.
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  Speaker 2: It's only one game, man, You're all good for Masimo Brambila.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously you know we spoke about it before
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  Speaker 1: the Pod Burdo, But were you surprised at all? First
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  Speaker 1: of all, to see that tutor get fired this quickly
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  Speaker 1: and the first coach in the city had to be
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  Speaker 1: let go.
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  Speaker 2: I actually was surprised, and a lot of the fan
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  Speaker 2: base was because, I mean, we're one season removed from
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  Speaker 2: calling for Thiago Malta's head and it lasting way too long.
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  Speaker 2: So we thought we were gonna be in the same boat.
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  Speaker 2: We're like, you know what, points wise, we're not that far.
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  Speaker 2: You're going into a good schedule for the month of November.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't think they were going to pull
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  Speaker 2: the trigger despite the winless in eight matches, run and everything.
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  Speaker 2: I legitimately thought they were gonna try to keep things rolling.
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  Speaker 2: But I made the call myself that if it were me,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to be a serious club, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to have serious ambitions, you got to draw the
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  Speaker 2: line at some point, and it just didn't look like
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  Speaker 2: it was going to go in the right direction. So
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised, but I think it was the right call.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we spoke about it last week, me and Johnny
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  Speaker 3: last week, and you know, I kind of agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: Berto. I think it's it's something that you know, it was.
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  Speaker 3: A bit of a shock because again, we like we
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  Speaker 3: said off air, you know what, do you've.
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  Speaker 4: Been the first choice to be the first coach fire?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not.
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  Speaker 3: We all had different predictions in our in our preseason
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  Speaker 3: preview show, and you know, guys like you know you
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  Speaker 3: would each Pioli, these guys are, they're they're still kicking,
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  Speaker 3: kicking around, even though it seems like it would probably
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  Speaker 3: end up the same thing for them soon. But what
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  Speaker 3: kind of in your opinion, Burdal, what kind of fell
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  Speaker 3: short besides obviously the results, but like results aside, because
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  Speaker 3: there's multiple things that go on with the club. What
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  Speaker 3: kind of fell short for you with Tudor is it
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  Speaker 3: that he watched the room that you.
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  Speaker 4: Lose the players trust? What kind of was his downfall
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  Speaker 4: so early in this season?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I mean it just in general, it's
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  Speaker 2: very unuve Like I think the last time we fired
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  Speaker 2: a coach in October was nineteen fifty nine season, So
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  Speaker 2: to be the first one out of all the clubs
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  Speaker 2: in league, that's crazy. But if I'm going to say
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  Speaker 2: what fell short, I don't think it was anything to
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  Speaker 2: do with the players. I know that there was a
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  Speaker 2: lot of rumblings about arguments and this and that, and
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  Speaker 2: the same core that they were putting up against Malta
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  Speaker 2: in Cambiaso Gatti, Pitting, et cetera. And in this one
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  Speaker 2: with Tudor they included Loka Delhi, which I was buying
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  Speaker 2: for a second, just for a number of reasons. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Tudor ever would have lost that locker room,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think that's the case. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: a combination of things, and I'll be quite honest, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot of it had to do with his
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  Speaker 2: turn in press conferences. I started to get the feeling
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  Speaker 2: like the writing was on the wall and you could
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  Speaker 2: just you could hear the change of tone in him.
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  Speaker 2: He was getting really short with interviewers and journalists, like
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  Speaker 2: really short, and he started to say things that were
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  Speaker 2: very anti juve and going against the values that he
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  Speaker 2: was brought up in when he was a player. There's
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  Speaker 2: certain things that you just can't say when you're coach
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  Speaker 2: of Juventus, and he was kind of starting to say them.
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  Speaker 2: And I felt that we got closer to seeing that
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  Speaker 2: maybe Caimoli how we felt in the summer where we
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  Speaker 2: waited so long to confirm him this was never really
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  Speaker 2: his guy, And I feel like we just saw it
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  Speaker 2: come to fruition really really quickly, like I would have
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  Speaker 2: never guessed in the month of October. But yeah, here
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  Speaker 2: we are, and I think it's I think it just
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  Speaker 2: came down to the excuses. You know, the games, the schedule,
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  Speaker 2: the officiating, which by the way, has been horrible in
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  Speaker 2: the league this year, including var But we're not the
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  Speaker 2: only team dealing with it. Everybody has had to deal
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  Speaker 2: with it, but they are on a shocker So to
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  Speaker 2: say that Syria I in general, the officiating has gotten worse.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy to think about because it's never been top drawer,
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  Speaker 2: but it's shocking. But you can't use that as an excuse.
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  Speaker 2: This is the reality. We're uve. We want to play
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  Speaker 2: three times a week. You don't want to play one
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  Speaker 2: match a season, So you got to find a way
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  Speaker 2: to deal with it. The mercado guess what, that's over.
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  Speaker 2: You can't use that an excuse. These are the guys
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  Speaker 2: at your disposal. You got to make do with it.
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  Speaker 2: We can't piss and moan about spill milt from months ago.
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  Speaker 2: Here you are, so I think just a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things started to get away from him and ultimately the results.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bad cycle and was there gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a way out you start losing? That Lattio game was terrible,
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  Speaker 2: the one terrible. If you're supposed to be a motivation
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  Speaker 2: guy and a raw row type coach and you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to make up for that way you lack in tactical ability.
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  Speaker 2: He was falling short. So I think there was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things at play that were going against Tudor,
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  Speaker 2: but not the locker room in my opinion for sure.
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  Speaker 5: So like what was he saying that was like anti Uventus,
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  Speaker 5: Like like like if for somebody who's not really paying
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  Speaker 5: attention Thos press conferences, you know, like what really goes
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  Speaker 5: against the identity of juve Ah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to see because I had them pulled
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  Speaker 2: up for when we were talking in number one, simply
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  Speaker 2: how his tune changed because there was a point where
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  Speaker 2: he had spoken about critical points and he brought up
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  Speaker 2: Napoli and he mentioned Nopoly. That was good, that was
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  Speaker 2: one of the good things, and that was at the
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  Speaker 2: start of the season, and that was good because he
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  Speaker 2: was showing if he's putting us with Napoli, who everybody
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  Speaker 2: pegged to be again up at the top. Not the
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  Speaker 2: mix that shows me he's got the ambition to get
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  Speaker 2: after it this year. That was good, But then after
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  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of a switch in some
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  Speaker 2: of his words and it shifted. It shifted into the
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  Speaker 2: players who he always believed in. Now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, oh, he's talking mercappo and he's making excuses.
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  Speaker 2: You've wighs, not excuses like you just can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You can't complain about the schedule. That's Antig's why Spiletti.
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  Speaker 2: If you caught his presser before Champions League tomorrow, he
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  Speaker 2: literally said, he goes three games. You can't complain. That's
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  Speaker 2: the way it is. It's not an excuse. What are
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  Speaker 2: we talking about here? I don't want to play one game?
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  Speaker 2: Do you want to play one game a week? And
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  Speaker 2: he's always talking to the players like the guy next
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  Speaker 2: to him, did get go to you at that part?
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  Speaker 2: It's like you want to play one game a week?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 2: But Tudor had a shift and he started to kind
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  Speaker 2: of go towards management and take some digs. That also
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  Speaker 2: is anti Juve because Juve's always tried to do what
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  Speaker 2: keep things behind closed doors? Of course, right yea. As
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  Speaker 2: far as the actual verbiage, he had one line that
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  Speaker 2: was in a I think it was in a defeat.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of the defeats where he said this
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  Speaker 2: is this is a good match, this was a good match.
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  Speaker 2: It's and I'm like, excuse me right there. Immediately that
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  Speaker 2: was the one and it was like, it's not a
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  Speaker 2: good match. It's never a good match, and it can't
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  Speaker 2: be a good match at Uventus. That was the main
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  Speaker 2: one when he's like, this was a good match, we
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  Speaker 2: played a good match, and no, I'm sorry. You can
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  Speaker 2: never call a loss a good match at Juve period,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. You're not gonna get sympathy. That was a
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  Speaker 2: bad one. Trying to sugarcoat that one for Juv and
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  Speaker 2: Tini uh igor, I love you buddy, but no, no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, not gonna fly no thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it And it's interesting, you know, you say, you
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  Speaker 1: know he had some controversy in press conferences and the
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  Speaker 1: guy that they bring in Spiletti is the press conference king.
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  Speaker 1: He has he loves his quotes. We saw that with
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  Speaker 1: he loves his quote, so it'll be interesting, it'll be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see what he does with juve if he
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  Speaker 1: takes that same road, or maybe he just comes up
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  Speaker 1: with whatever philosophy philosophical philosophical quote he wants to come
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  Speaker 1: up with. But I kind of want to ask, because
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  Speaker 1: it does feel like lately coaches are a bit more
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  Speaker 1: have a bit more personality. In these press conferences, we
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  Speaker 1: see Conte constantly make excuses. All agree, I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: he made excuses, but he liked the line might right
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  Speaker 1: with these press conferences splenty as well. So do you
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  Speaker 1: think maybe that's kind of a tactic these coaches are
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  Speaker 1: kind of applying these days that are just to take
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  Speaker 1: away the attention from the players.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're all just pushing whatever narratives that they
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  Speaker 2: need to, and I think certain guys are different. I
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  Speaker 2: think that there are some coaches that protect their players,
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  Speaker 2: and I think there are other coaches that protect themselves
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  Speaker 2: when they feel they need to. I mean, they're trained
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  Speaker 2: for these things too, hey, Like they're not walking into
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  Speaker 2: a press or blind, Like they're prepared about an hour
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  Speaker 2: before they go out there with questions that are anticipated
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  Speaker 2: to come, and that's reported to them based on people
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  Speaker 2: doing research on and forum social media, et cetera. And
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  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, get ready to be asked about this, this, this, this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but what a coach chooses to do when
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  Speaker 2: he get out there, like, I mean, you can't tell me.
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  Speaker 2: Conte hasn't gone off the cuff a couple times, well
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  Speaker 2: many times in some of his pressers, right, So what
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  Speaker 2: they choose to do is on them. You know. Even
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  Speaker 2: Max has had some beauties for press conferences. He's one
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  Speaker 2: of the best too. And Spiletti's in there. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he wasted no time. Guys like Mike, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: We must always let the sound of the ball rolling
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  Speaker 2: on the grass be the message we want to send.
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  Speaker 2: If the ball as it slides on the grass, slides
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  Speaker 2: at that speed, the fans hear the noise from the stands,
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  Speaker 2: that is the correct way to speak. What just say,
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  Speaker 2: you want the pitch to do the talking, like you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to tell you want to let the pitch
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  Speaker 2: do the talk. This guy is something else, man, I
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  Speaker 2: tell you ready for this press is there are gonna
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  Speaker 2: be something.
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  Speaker 4: Bert just I don't want to cut you off. But
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  Speaker 4: besides the besides the verbiage, all the all the all the.
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  Speaker 3: Quotes, the typical Spoetti antics, if you will, this is
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  Speaker 3: your coach, like like you said earlier, this is what
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  Speaker 3: is given to you. This is what you're can have
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  Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, back him as as the manager.
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  Speaker 3: He's on an eight month contract and depending on how
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: things end, it could be an extension afterwards. What do
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  Speaker 3: you like, do you see a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: light at the end of the tunnel with Spoeti in
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  Speaker 3: this short term or like, what do you expect this
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  Speaker 3: this short or potentially long Spoheti era juvent is to be.
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  Speaker 2: It's way too early to call because we're it's still
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: honeymoon face, so it's like we won't really know a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot about it, at least I think for the
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  Speaker 2: first couple of months to see. But right now everything's
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  Speaker 2: kind of shifted from that coach, Like I think Spalletti's
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  Speaker 2: coming in, and you know, people can try to paint
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  Speaker 2: whatever picture they want and that like there's so much
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  Speaker 2: on him whatever, But I really think there's way more
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  Speaker 2: on the players themselves because it's the first time, like
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  Speaker 2: now everybody's looking big picture since Annieli left and the
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  Speaker 2: board was dismantled. That's the point where Elkins started making
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  Speaker 2: the decisions. You were massively in debt to the tune
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  Speaker 2: of three hundred and twenty four million euros. You brought
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: in numbers guys as your president and as your CEO,
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  Speaker 2: Perero Scanavino. Every call that you've made from that point
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  Speaker 2: till now, like when you were in control, it's been
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  Speaker 2: just turnover, turnover, turnover, no progress, patchwork all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've gotten to the point where you know you're
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  Speaker 2: shuffling coaches, sporting directors. Now the light is on el
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  Speaker 2: Can and those guys at the top, and it's on
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  Speaker 2: the players. They got jeered at the halftime against Latzio, rightfully,
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  Speaker 2: so they got jeered in the follow up game with
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  Speaker 2: Brambila too, to pick things up at the half, and rightfully.
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  Speaker 2: So Now all of a sudden, I think Spilette, you
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  Speaker 2: can even see it in the way he's speaking and
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  Speaker 2: the way he's talking that he's putting a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the onus on the players. He's playing that narrative too,
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  Speaker 2: maybe as a little bit of protection for himself. I mean, shit,
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  Speaker 2: he's doing a stadium tour. They got Pettin right there. Hey.
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  Speaker 2: To top post depends on you and everything. Okay, it
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  Speaker 2: depends on he's already playing it up, you know. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a game cat and mouse
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  Speaker 2: here for everybody. But I think he's I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he's as gonna be under the mic chroscope as much
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  Speaker 2: as people played out to be. He could have been
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Comoli's guy from day one, and maybe he did want
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: to take a bit of a breather after that Atzuri debacle.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe they are already planning to go long term.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe it's a little bit a show for the
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  Speaker 2: fans too, that they're not committing right away and that
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  Speaker 2: they're leaving options open. I don't know that it's it's
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: it's a tough thing to gauge because now they finally
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  Speaker 2: got a management teaming in there with Camoli Moresto Kelin,
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  Speaker 2: he's involved. That's the right way to do it. Having
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: a group. You know, people could say whatever they want
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  Speaker 2: about June Junetali had nobody to to hammer any ideas
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  Speaker 2: off of He's got Ferraro, that the guy's not even awake.
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  Speaker 2: He's got Scana, you know, a numbers guy, Guys from newspapers,
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  Speaker 2: from Ladipublica. It's like and then el Can, who's not
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  Speaker 2: even there trying to steer a ship from the shore.
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  Speaker 2: So any way you want to slice it, that guy's gone.
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  Speaker 2: Now you've got a management team. Are they the right guys?
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  Speaker 2: Time will tell, you know. But I think Spiletti's playing
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  Speaker 2: with free money, to be honest. I think there's more
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  Speaker 2: on the players and upper management than there is him,
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  Speaker 2: and that might be the best scenario for him after
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: what happened to the Azuri. It could be in a
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: situation where we need him and he needs us. It's
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: very similar to and maybe Nick, you could probably talk
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  Speaker 2: tos like you remember when a Legree came to Juve
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  Speaker 2: and like nobody wanted them, like nobody. It kind of
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  Speaker 2: has those vibes man, where it's like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the fans like no, no Spalletti, no Spiletti. But it
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  Speaker 2: might work out, who.
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  Speaker 1: Knows, a couple of years after winning a Sudetto as well.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with the cont with with the rival team.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't didn't coach the Italian national team in between though.
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  Speaker 2: Hulet, yeah, I was calling for it.
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  Speaker 4: He's just colcho guys.
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  Speaker 5: Nicholas acknowledges Napoly as a rival team look at that.
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  Speaker 2: He messed up there, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not media trained bird or I don't
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  Speaker 1: get the I don't get the memos from.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah that one, God forbid a team from the south
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  Speaker 6: is good.
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  Speaker 2: God forbid a tea from this.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So you you touched on a lot of great
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  Speaker 5: points that actually I have a cute few questions set
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  Speaker 5: up for them, but I'll just start with one. So
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: obviously from like speaking of for Monopoly staff members and whatnot,
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  Speaker 5: junetu Lely, I think Junetilely actually might have been uh
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  Speaker 5: wasn't trip it was you if we had uh this
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  Speaker 5: ganga that we had on talking about June last.
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  Speaker 6: Night last year or something, Yeah, we were talking about it.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, like, personally speaking, I thought would have
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: been a good fix for you because what he did
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: for not mindre he had like you just said it perfectly,
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  Speaker 5: because Junlee didn't have anybody to bounce idea is off of,
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  Speaker 5: whereas Anapot he had a.
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  Speaker 7: D L And even though he is a bit of
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  Speaker 7: cafon like you know, like at least he kind of
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  Speaker 7: understands business in a sense, whereas Juntulee, like I thought
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  Speaker 7: he would have been Like I was scared at first,
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  Speaker 7: because like, this is the right guy to steer the ship,
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  Speaker 7: like to fix it, and obviously they.
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  Speaker 5: Let him go and stuff. Do you think Toolini is
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: actually because I think he's the one who's gonna replace
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: him soon from Genoa if I'm not mistaken?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Yep?
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: Do you think this is actually better for management and
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: better for like what the I guess the boardroom is
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: going to be going with for Juve because you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: like I think that's always that's ever since the whole
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: fiasco of the of the financial uh you know, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: financial situation where eybody had to sit down. I think
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: that's what's been causing you all these problems. Now it's like, yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: there's running around like a chicken one out ahead. So essentially, yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: do you think do you think like I thought Duntuli
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: was but I guess maybe not. Do you think Otolini
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: is that right step in the in the right direction
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: for that man?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I catch flak all the time, but I I just said,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: for me, Junetulee was a scapegoat because any guy that
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: would have come into that position would have been stuck
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: in the same fashion that he was. People say he
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: created a nightmare, and he has made things delayed like
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: by years and put you a backwards ears. No, the
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: damage was already done. He didn't create damage like the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: damage was there. He walked into the massive debt. He
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: had a roster that had no assets other than the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: young players, so everybody said, oh June until he got
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: rid of all these young players. It was the only
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: way to get the money moving in the right direction,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: because guess what, everybody there isn't a lineup to buy
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Eric millick ardor Danie Low like just you've got a.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Roster where your assets are either guys you absolutely cannot
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: get rid of, or they're young players with high potential
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: that bring you capital gains that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Start to write the ship. If it was Juntlely or
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: it was someone else, they're going to be stuck in
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the same mess. Bring your books where they need to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: be and still try to remain competitive. For me, the
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: guy was hard done by and for anybody that says
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: it's all him, I reminded them this is why I
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: lost my shit on them last season, because I said,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: if they fire Mota and they fired Juntlely, guess what.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Elca needs to push himself to the back door, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: he needs to get rid of Ferrero. It's kind of
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: venal because if they disagree with anything Juntlely did throughout
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: that period, they have blood on their hands too, because
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: they could have vetoed it at any given moment and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: they did not. So people that cry about the sales
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: of Hoisten that could have been vetoed at any point
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: in time. Nobody'd stepped in there and said, whoa, we
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: don't want to sell this kid. No, they had no
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: problems because those guys were choosing books over ambition or whatever.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But they gave Junetlee a mission keep this team competitive,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: reach top four. Let's fix the books. Once things are clean,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: we start to ram things up on better talent. The
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: signings that Juntlely brought in, they were all balling, they
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: were all doing well before they came to Juve. This
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: is a whole other beast because now we're starting to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: get into dangerous territories. Jonathan david O Banda like all
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: these guys, cole Minor, all these guys come to Juve.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: You're telling me now one of them is a good player.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: When do we start to look at what's in the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: damn water in Turin because one after another, these guys
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: start to fail. Now when you get Totalini, it's all
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Comoli's show right now. It's not gonna be like Otolini's
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: gonna come in and he's gonna be wheeling and dealing whatever.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: This is for me, clear as day, it's Comoli's world
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and they're all living in it. They have their little roles,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But this sporting director is not going to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: be the power that the last sporting director had. This
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: is definitely one a committee, but the guy at the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: top of it is Camoli and that's clear his day.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Now people were saying only Juve is the only team
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: that would hire a coach before hiring a sporting director,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and I told them, hello, Camoli's there. Comoli has held
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: every single position in football in the football world. He's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: been a coach, he's been a scout, he's been a GM,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: he's been a sporting director. That's your guy. That's why
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he hired Spalletti. And it doesn't matter that you don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: have a sporting director because that guy's going to come
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in and just do whatever he's directed to do by Komoli.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It's his world. So in that retrospect to the question
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: about Ottalini, Yeah, I mean he should be fine because
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna be left out to dry like June
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Tali was. It's gonna still be committee, right. The biggest
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: guy to know if he's the right one. The biggest
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: question would be Kamoli and only time will tell. And
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest for myself, I'm a little skeptical, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: that's just me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So you kind of touched on it quickly. But players
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that they just brought in, namely Jonathan David, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: our Canadian friend, you can call him that definitely struggled.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: You know you scored so many goals in league, are struggled,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Definitely hasn't looked himself. You could even say the same
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: thing about Openda, And you know, it gets me wondering it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Last year you've brought.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: In players winter transfer market, they're already like going the summer.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Even players that they brought in last summer twenty twenty four,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: some players only lasted a season. Do you think now
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: with Spletty coming in, there's already risk that some of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: these players could be on the move in January, like David,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Likeel Penda, And do you think spletty will have the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: power to make such moves come January.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I don't expect much of anything to happen in January.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I'll be quite honest. You are already expecting FFP punishment
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: coming in the spring. You have a roster that already
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: lacks up, Like David ain't going anywhere in January. It
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: ain't happening. I don't see anybody going in January because
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it just it would be too difficult for us to
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: try and shop in January because January shopping sucks. So
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I just don't see it happening. I really don't. And
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I think that it's already been laid out for Spiletti, Like, Hey,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: this is what you're walking into. This is the game
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: plan for this eight months. You either accept or you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: don't like. So I don't think Spiletti's gonna be making
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm not buying into all these media reports that
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: he's making calls, especially like bringing back Fajoli. Are you
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: kidding me? We're gonna pay double the funds because Fiorentina
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: always rakes us over the coals to bring back a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: guy we just said goodbye to like a year ago.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not buying into any of this. I don't think Spalletti.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I think he knows exactly what the game plan is,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: where the club is sitting, what their plans are, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the plans were probably for the summer of twenty twenty
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: six and not the winter. That's just me and as
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: far as the players that the newcoming players, like I said,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: we got to start looking at ourselves in the mirror.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, Moysey Keene goes on a tear, Nico Gonzalez
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: who like goes doing well at Athletico, you know, Hans Nico,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Lucy Cavilla doing well. Like these guys are all leaving
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and every guy that we bring in is not good enough.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Struggles we got. For me, there's bigger things going on,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and I think it's in the house, and I think
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: we're starting to see some of it come to light.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And that's why I say, Spalletti, no matter what even
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I kind of think of him, he might have some
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: good things that we might need, especially if he's cutting
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: off phones in sting rooms and stuff like that. I'm like, man,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: these guys are nowhere near performing at the level where
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: they should have their phone worry about like TikTok Instagram
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: all this shiit like, guys start winning games. You're winless
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: at eight at Uventus, God damn it, Like let's go
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: so you know what, Yeah, take away their goddamn PlayStations.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Who cares about their ultimate team? They can be a
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: couple months behind whatever. I'll smack them around anyways, on
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: FC twenty six.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You gotta put your tag out there. You gotta put
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: your tag.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: But joking to cidbirdle, Uh, it's always funny when when
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: there's when there's a coaching change. Uh, it seems like
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: all the ship that already transpired. It I don't want
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: to say it goes out the window because it clearly hasn't.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: But game one Spiletti and it becomes a win, and
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: this team was struggling to get any sort of results.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: The game against Kremon is the two to one. Obviously,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I guess the second positive because the first positive was
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the Brambilah win. But you know it's just is it
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: just because of the coaching change and it's just one
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: of these things, or like what possibly could have changed
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: within these players in the span of what was it,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: you know, four days, not even three days, Like it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it's a bit absurd to me and to count and
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: also add to that with all the results that have
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: have transpired, the loss points in terms of losses or
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: draws or what have you. You know, what is it
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: with these players that is not clicking?
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Because I think there's gonna be a rough patch even with.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: SPOETI down the line, like it's almost inevitable, like it
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: always happens with any team, any manager, any player, it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: about to happen. What do you kind of make of
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: obviously the game against Kriminals and what needs to click
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: with these players to get going?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Because I saw the lineup and we were seeing it
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: a bit off air.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: When I saw Coop Miners as a left center back,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I was I was telling my brother at home. I
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: was like, Julia, I don't know, man like this, this
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. He hasn't I found cool Miners since
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: he's made the transfer to you, hasn't woked himself, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: now you put him at center back. It's just another
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: one that's a bit head scratching to me. What did
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: you make of all this? And uh, just I guess
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: what happens in the future.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It's been a long time since that guy's played center
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: back like a long time, maybe back to his days
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in Hall and Man, but it was a crazy call.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: It was a weird call. I remember seeing the lineup
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and none of us could make sense of what the
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: hell formation? What's the setup? Because you saw that extra
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: midfielder name and you're like, what's going on here? How's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: he gonna? What's this shape? Like, what's he doing? And
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: then you see him lying out there and you got
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: cot Miners at the back and I'm thinking, oh my god,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: that's that's crazy. And then in the end it's his
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: best game in a UVE shirt by like a long shot,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: like and I'm like, okay, whatever. I mean, we all
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: knew through what we've seen since he's come over that
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: he's better at like further away. When you put him
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: right up at the top, it doesn't work for him,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and he needs He's one that needs to like gradually
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: get forward into the game and make those trailing runs.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And that's what he was so good at with Atalanta
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and under Gaspadini, being that extra man late hitting the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: box and then taking a shot, taking a rip, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: he had confidence in his free kicks, et cetera. For us,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: he's sending everything to the moon and I mean left
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: center back, whatever it is, this is it for this guy,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: because other than that, it's Portierre man, it's goalkeeper. Other
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: than this, so hey, wherever we can get this guy
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to contribute, it is what is. And right now you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: without Cabal, you're without Bremer, so you got to make
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: something happen. I actually thought that that game was really
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: good from Uve, like for the most part, because a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: lot of the simple things have been killing Juve this season.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: They do a lot of the small things poorly and
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: make a lot of mistakes, especially in the final third.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: It was a cleaner game from you. One of the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: cleanest first halves we've had in a long time, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: we could have walked away with multiple goals in that
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: first half. But you know, in the second half, like
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: we pushed, got that second one, and then you still
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: have these moments where the guys just have these complete
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: blackouts and got to Yeah, that was handled terrible against Varti,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: but at a two nil lead in the eighty second minute,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: why on earth is he isolated like that? Why on
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: earth is he all alone trying to deal with that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: situation with the ball over top. He's got no coverage,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Nobody with them or anything in a two nil game
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: in the eighty second minute, I'm just like, can we
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: ask that question? At least you know, Jonathan David gets
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: ripped for missing a header going back to McKenny when
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: we had no other midfielders around. And if I challenge people,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I said, go back to the start of that play.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Tell me what's wrong before you even get to Jonathan David,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: because yes, he made a mistake there, and everybody wanted
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to murder him, just like they wanted to murder young
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Vasiliadzich for his error earlier on. And I said, well,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: why the hell Digati put Adzich under with two players
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: around him For David's I said, why the hell did
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Pitteine not pass to one of the four guys standing
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: next to him in the box doing nothing? One Latzio
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: player in the box, five U players he could have turned,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: taken that pass to the right, We got no problems.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: He throws it right up the middle, David's around it,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: heads it back to McKenny, McKinny surrounded because Latsio's got
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: players all around the middle there and there you go.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But they want to pick Jonathan David because right now,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that's the trend. Number one because he's Canadian. Number two
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: he's a new and number three he's struggling. I'm a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: part with guys all three, the trifecta. Okay there, but.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: No one defends Jonathan David like a bunch of Italian
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Canadians will also happened to be.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, actually, uh, he's got a lot
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of he's got a lot of protection out there because
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the story's out what we've been saying. It's not just him,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: it's a handful of guys, right, and all these newcomers
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that are coming, you're telling me none of them are good,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: none of them will succeed, none of them could throw
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not buying it. And to your point about why
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: these struggles, why these mental blocks, what I truly believe
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: it's the culture at the club that is lost.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: The top.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: Sorry, if they're established a from the top, top on,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: one hundred.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Percent from the top, you're And this is what makes
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: me laugh when fans get so fired up when the
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: rumor pops up about Elkan potentially selling Uventus because of
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the family ties over one hundred years, et cetera. And no,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it's it's family. Whatever I go, what the hell in
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the past while has made you feel that connection to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: this club. Nothing there's nothing there that holds that that
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: family values those ties. There's nothing there If we can't
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: feel it as a fan, you think the players can
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: feel Do you think they get it? Like there's no
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: more Villar Pedolsa to kick off the season. That's acts
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: like years ago because of why because of battles between
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: assets in the family. Okay, so now we lost a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: beautiful thing that the players loved. I don't know if
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you guys having to catch Patrice Evra's words calling out
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: all the players after Tudor got sacked, but he called
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: in the connection and all this, and he talked about
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Villain pedols That's where you started to understand. He goes,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I was a new player to juve. You walk into
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Villa Peolesa, surrounded by fans, you're playing in this pitch,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: just on this property whatever. And then after you go in,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you eat together as a team, and Annelly tells you
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: everything about the family whatever. Like you you. He's like
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I bought in that second, not only that, And Yelly's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: all over you day in day out, like, hey, you're
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: doing good? Is there anything I could do for you,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Like what do you need? Like what should we do
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: better with facilities like anything. It's just that involvement el
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Can is not there. There's not gonna be any ties.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: These guys are like it's like when you're at work,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you're bossing around, You're gonna slack a bit, You're gonna
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: have a little fun, you know whatever. Of course, run
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: up Google and you know, maybe set some parlays up,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: do a little bit something. Then all of a sudden
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: your boss comes right, yeah, okay, that's I bought that report.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I swear to god. I think it's it's just the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: culture has been broken, and maybe Spaletti can help that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I think, honestly speaking, like the whole fact about quote
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: unquote culture, I feel like it started to go away
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: as the era of Bandetta started to go away, you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: where it's like it's not just a uvent this problem.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: You know, like a lot of clubs have a hard time.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: Re establishing their identities and kind of like you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: capitalizing on it. You know, it's just it's mind you
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: it's I think it's also a side effective city in general,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: where it's like you have to keep on moving players
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: around to kind of keep your team afloat, you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: like you can't hold on to players anymore. It's it's
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: not like as if people are lining up to go
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: play at your club. They're basically if they're playing at
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: your club. No matter which club you are in Italy,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: your transition club to another, your an ends to a
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: mean you're mean to an end. Sorry I heard that,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: but I think I I think the team that's obviously
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: hurting the most with it right now, he said it
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: perfectly is Juve. So hopefully some things are good, especially
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: with like old Benyetta, like Kellini is getting involved in
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: stuff which helps out a lot to help establish to
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: like maybe rebuild that culture there. Maybe maybe Bonucci starts
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: coming because he said he wanted to go to Juve
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: and manage you once he's done.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: With the national team and stuff.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully that that kind of helps him.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: When are they gonna bring the Puiero back? I don't understand.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: I think just enjoys not being involved.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I think he wants to go the States now, he's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: living a good life in the States, works for CBS.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Man. I think he wants.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Think I'm ready for the del Piro out hashtags man
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: at any point in time with the way fans run
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and operate this this time, you know. But I'll be
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: quite honest, I don't think the club's ever approached him
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: or done anything whatever, And I don't think he really
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: wants it until there's.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Want.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's like I think he'll do it, but
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I think he won't do it until the right people
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: are there.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: At the time. That's no. I mean that makes sense.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Like Ferraro Scanavino, like there's no chance still here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It's like when it's like Maldini when he when he
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: took it, took his time to come back to Milan.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: It needed to be the right environment, and you know
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: he was wrongfully taken out. But whatever, that's a different discussion,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: but it's kind of the same, the same thing. You
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: need that foundation, Like we've been hammered like at all
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: ends here on tonight's show.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: But it's the foundation.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: If you don't have that, if you're building a house,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: if you're building a football club.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: It's the same idea.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: And Jenny's right. I mean, the days of the Biandia
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: is that it's over. Those days are over, but you
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: know that's why you still have to find a way
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to transmit like your value, your culture, what do you
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: want you ntus to be. Even if you don't have
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a bandietta like you know, when those days are gone,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: you still have to have like an identity. You still
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: have to know what you want your team to be,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: who you guys want to be. Who's transmitting that. You
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: could still do that, like by walking the walk day
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: to day by the guys that are around there. Killeini
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: will be one of them, even if he's got an
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: office role, like he's gonna be one and have to say,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: you just have to find different guys because there's still
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: gonna be guys that are gonna be around these clubs
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: for quite some time. They're not gonna be probably to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the level of the bandetras from you know, the mid
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: two thousands, the nineties, you know what I mean. Like
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it's a different day and age, but you're still gonna
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: have you know, your your vets that are with teams
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: that will take that and then run with it. Right,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: then you're gonna have leaders. You got to bring in leaders,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: even if they're not longtime players at your club. You
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: might call upon somebody that joins that could have an
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: instant impact as a leader and he will buy into
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: that end. Again, it's it's got to come from somewhere.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: When you pull a player in, he's a leader. What
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: do you want this guy transmitting to the club, to
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the team, Like, I don't know, what the hell have
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: we been trying to transmit to this team? For me,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: we've been chasing our tails for years. We haven't known
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: what we've wanted to be. We're trying to search, we're
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: trying to become something we've never been. One year, you're
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: telling me we want to play tiki taka or whatever.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: What you've a tiki taka? The fuck No, you know
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: hard knows till the end fight and that's what we need.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: We just need to be that team that everybody hated
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to play games that everybody knew was going to be
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a grind. It's going to be brutal, and they're just
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: they've been chasing themselves leaders in experience though we lack
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: that big time at you and the fact that this
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: is why when I go back to Komoli, a little
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: bit of skepticism on my part and maybe Nick you
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: could talk to you know, your thoughts only, but like
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the fact that we had we placed no importance on
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: experience in the mergata was crazy to me when you
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: have some good options as experienced players. You even had
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: one that was pretty cheap at the back line, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you had Bremer and Cabal coming off acls, and you
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: placed zero importance on a center back. Like That's why
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I'm a little like, hmmm, all these attackers, holy smokes,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: attack or attack or attack or attacker? You want to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: keep the ball out of the net or what. But
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm a little skeptical of him man, And I think
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: experience and leadership we need, we need some serious work there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Those are the two glaring things for me if I
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: look at you as roster and then you guys can
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: all speak to it, but for me, lack of leadership
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: and number two, our star power is not act like
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: our star players aren't actually stars.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Bold statement there you go.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: In what sense like which players like they're not actually
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: true star players. They lack the consistency to be called
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: a star player.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Said that in the middle of this to be a protagonist.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He's a great player, he's a he's a phenomenal player,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: but he's still got a ceiling that he's got a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: hit And then like Cambiaso is right now on an
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: on his day player, so he'm a star man, like
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: he's got a long way. Like without consistency, you are
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: not a star I'm sorry for me. The only star
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: player you have at you, A true star player is
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Bremer when he's fitting in the lineup.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: That you can't stay on the pitch, the guy, well,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: he can't stay on the pitch. It's it's two seasons
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: in a row. He can't stay on the pitch.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Well, he blewes a cl last year, so he had to.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: There's want to ask him.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: When he's playing. He's no doubt about it. The guy's
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a star player, of course. But all these other guys
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: that people want to throw at at start, they're not.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: And I think that's like people are shining a light
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: on McKenny, look at Delhi, COMI, all this, et cetera.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Your star players are not star players. They're they're not
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: there yet. Taran, he can get there, yields, he can
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: get there. He's a he's a good player right now.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: But without consistency, it ain't star power, man, it doesn't hit.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like when Debala is out there on the pitch in
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: his heyday with Uve, it doesn't hit like when BPTA
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: is out there, like Valvich. Vlalovich is not a star
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: striker for me, He's not. I think that's a bigger thing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: People shine a light on all these guys. Juve was
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: built on hard working, tough, are knows players, but what
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they always had was star power with them and right now,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: like I think our star power is lacking, they're not
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: at that cut yet.
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: Speaking of which Dukesan, Sorry Nick, because we're on the
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: topic of it. Speaking of with du sad you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: like talking about you know, star players or players that
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: don't fit the culture anymore, especially with a legedy joining me.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Lan and stuff. Do you and obviously and you just
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: said it earlier before the abundance of attackers, do you
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: think Dusan's time at Juventus is coming to an end?
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: Probably not during the winter, Midcapto, I think I'll be
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: way too soon. But do you think, like by summer
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: he's gone. Do you think he stays with the club?
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: What are your opinions on that?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I have no clue, man, have no clue anymore. For
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: a year and Af's like, get this guy out of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the club now a sudden, Oh they're going to offer renewal.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: They're gonna try to keep this guy we're happy with.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: It's like, I have no idea for me. I'm really
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: nervous because it's that contract year. Is it that contract
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: year bump? You know?
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, for three years we've had this guy like go
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: on streaks, but then like brutal streaks, like slumps.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: So it's like he goes on these hot streaks and
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: then he goes on these brutal slumps. And when he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: in these brutal slumps, he's far from a leader, piss
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: poor attitude, making excuses, talking way too much in the media.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you get final contract year.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: He comes in, he's in the best physical condition of
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: his life in the summer camp. Oh okay. Now, all
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're in the best physical shape of
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: all the years you've been here in final contract year. Ah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: thank you. And then all of a sudden, it's like
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: he says all the right things in the media, he's
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: got the great attitude with all the players on the bench,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: on the pitch. All of a sudden, it's like who
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: is is it like an enigma, It's like a rabbio
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: two point zero all of a sudden where he's going
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: for that contract, getting that extension. I'm nervous about it.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I'd be nervous to keep him around. I'm gonna be
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: quite honest. I know a lot of fans feel like
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: it's a security blanket now because David hasn't hit the
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: ground running and Bend hasn't got a goal, and said,
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the guy doesn't even want to shoot the ball in
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the game, for godsakes. But everybody's getting nervous now, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, you gotta keep Blovich. You gotta keep Blovich.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Is he the only striker on the planet. Like, at
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: some point you have to cut the core. It's like
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you're in an abusive relationship. Sometimes you guys say, just
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: get the hell away from me. I gotta go somewhere else.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I just I gotta leave Blovich. I can't do it anymore.
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: Man.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: For me, it's a I'm sorry, see you later. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I do believe he leaves. I don't think he's stayed.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I'd go as far to say,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: in January, if he signs a pre agreement with someone, yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I could see that. I don't know if I put
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: money on it, but I'm quite confident that in January
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: he's going to sign a pre agreement with a club.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I have a feel and that's what's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: going to go down.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So obviously, yeah, Valvis number nine. I want to talk
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: about the number ten. Cannields. I mean we talked quickly,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: talked about it before, but scored against you dense in
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Brembila's game on a PK right at the end. He
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: hadn't had a goal contribution with Juventus since September sixteenth,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: that was in the Champions League, got a goal and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: assist and now one that was after he got a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: goal and assist with Inter. So he had three four, six,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: five six seven games without any goal goal contributions with
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: You've obviously scored with the the tur.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: K national team.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm just curious your thoughts about him as a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: player this season and if you think him playing now
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: under Spiletti, you could get unlocked a bit and have
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: a bit more goal contributions.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Man, it's not for lack of try and when it
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: comes to that kid, I'll tell you that at least
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: he works hard every game. Every game, he gives you
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: everything he has. He's super talented player. Tudor's detriment was
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: that he couldn't figure out that. Guess what, there's no
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: more surprise factor with Keenan yieldas everybody knows who he is,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: they know what he's capable of, and they plan against it.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Tudor didn't have an answer. He didn't have a solution. Spalletti,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: who's been around football for forty plus years, he better
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: have an answer as to what you do to be
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: able to get this guy to operate. What's your answer
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: for the double team, for the triple team? Where are
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you going to place him? He's already got to answer
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: that question because he's back in the lineup for tomorrow
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Champions League and is he going to play at the ten?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Is he going to play up top next to the striker?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: What's he going to do? One of the problems was
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Cambiaso was in one hell of a slump too, so
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: he had no help on that left side. Cambiasso look
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: shades of himself and everything. But for me, the struggles
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: with Yields were lack of planning and understanding an organization
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: from Tudor. To be honest, I kind of put that
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: on him because we all called it. He said, guys,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: he's getting double team, triple team, Like, you have to
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: come up with something. You can't put a lineup of
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: six defenders out there and expect Yieldas to just do
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: it all by himself. And again, if I didn't say
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: it earlier, I'll say it again right wing back to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Lulu should have had him in prison, Tudor should have
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: been in prison for that call. My god, my eyes, man,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. I'm not worried about him one bit, not
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: worried about him one bit.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: He's young, he's young, he has time to I've always
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: said this with the others or just any young player
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: in especially in Citia, because that's obviously the lead that
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: we follow the most in love. But we just gotta
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: give these fucking guys some time. Like like, he's so young,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: and I know the expectations are high. Listen, I'm a
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: million fine, I know what that is, trust me. But
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: like I find in Steadia, in Italy, we have a
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: we have a tendency of just giving up too fast
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: on these on these young prospects.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Give the guy some fucking time.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: So quick to put a label on everything.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's crazy. And listen, he's
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: gonna screw up. He's bound to have a bad game.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: He's gonna go on these slumps.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Case in point, he hasn't before like Nick said he had,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: he hadn't had a gold Countries in seven and seven matches.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's expected to happen. But ride the course
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: or ride the ship. And you know, this is your
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: in my opinion as an outsider looking in.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: This is one of your corner could be or should be.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: One of your corner stone pieces for I don't know
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: the next five to seven seasons, Like I don't know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: he's what twenty years old, twenty one, twenty two, twenty
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: years old? If if he puts another five years into
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Juva like that, you would I would think, you guys
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: be uh pretty happy.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I would hope.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: But we got to get our act together. But of course,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: if we don't start, if we don't start holding our
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: side of the bargain, which is competing, Yeah, trophies, Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: that guy's gonna be tempted.
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Teams are like you know, if certain teams start calling,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: it's only gonna be a matter of time that he's
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be like, man, I really don't care about chasing
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: top four in Italy, like for the rest of my day.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Like he's gonna he's gonna bounce, he's gonna go. Why
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't he. We have a responsibility as a club for
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: yieldas too, to do our best and to compete. That's
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: what you's got to do. So I like, I'll give
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to Spiletti on this. I like that
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: he's talking about that right away and saying, Hey, I'm
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: coming in with maximum intentions. Why the hell can't we
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: be in this kudeto talk, you know, And that's one
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of the things that I think could play, you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: all these things, Like I said, despite what I kind
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: of feel personally about when it was decided and all this,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: you got a team that was winless in eight and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: we're still only four points out from the top, and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, Spiletti's coming in. He's trying
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: to push for his reputation, kind of bring some life
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: back to that that took a hit with the Yadzuri
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and you've got Juve that's shining a light on the players.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: So he's kind of got free money and now the players.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: If they can't get motivated now, if there's no sense
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of embarrassment from two coaches in consecutive seasons getting sacked,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: then they need to listen to Patrice Evra that said, guys,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: this ain't for you, and Juve is not for you,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: so just do me a favor and leave. So I
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: think things are we're kind of getting things right by Yieldez.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: This is one of the things as well. Even conse Sao,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you could put in that we got to stop being
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: so dependent. This is one of the things with Tudor's game.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: You talk about a guy that's getting game planned against,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: which is Yieldez is one of them. You have to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: have an answer. And that's why it's important that your
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: team you play good as a team as a group,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: because look at what happened with Yieldas. He's got some
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: knee issue that's been around for a bit. The guy's
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: been playing NonStop up until that game that he missed.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: He had played all the minutes except for fifteen this season, Like,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: you gotta figure out something else and can't be so
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: reliant on this guy, because yeah, if you're playing that
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: much all the time, steady and they're banking on you
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: and relying on you, and there's nothing as a team
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: that you're building together. Sooner or later you're gonna get
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: gassed out and your body's gonna start giving out on you,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: like and that's another things. Tudor was just way too reliant,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Like depending we were scared. We're like, oh my god,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yielda is in a lineup, are we gonna get a shot?
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: You can't think that way, but that's what was going on.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: So at least with Spalletti, that's one of the positives
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: out of the Criminasy game, how much we created. He
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't even on pitch.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and just one last thing, yeah, Bertole before we
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: wrap it up. Were almost at an hour here.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: But two more tests quick in quick succession for for Spoletti.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Obviously Champions League tomorrow.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I believe it's.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Against Sporting, correct me if I'm wrong, Sporting, yes, Sports
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Sporting right. And then obviously that that would be on
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: the weekend against Torino, uh one. That seems to be
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: one sided, very often on your side. But two quick
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: tests and two quick successions again for Spalletti. Your your
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: thoughts on these upcoming matches, and you know how important
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: it is for him to kick off his campaign with
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: you of a in the Champions League.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Uh tomorrow.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a big one. It's a big
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: one with the way things started in Champions League. First,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: it has to be a win. He's got to get
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: a win there. And uh yeah, he's got left center
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: back Cope Miners again because Kelly and Cohen. I don't
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: know if Rugani's gonna get the call. Rugani might start
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: instead of Gatti. Our back line legit could be Cope Miners,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Rugani and Khalulu back three. That's insane to think about
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: in a Champions League match against anybody, But here we go.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Uh so you and Teeny buckle up your seatbelts. I think. Uh.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: The funny thing is we were all happy we were
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: gonna play a Portuguese side at home at least, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Sporting is like undefeated away from home and just rocking
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: it away. So I'm like, okay, So you know, we
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: just can't ever have something nice around the Beyonce So
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a tough game, I'd be I'd actually
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: say that I'm more worried, even though the derby hasn't
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: really been a Derby for a long time. I feel
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: like that could be the banana peel here and all
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: of this, because I think he'll have these guys ready
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: to go. I think they're still going to be feeling
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: that new coach bump and rare in the goal, and
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: especially with where they stand in Champions League, and I
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot to keep their heads up over
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: these past two games. Of Course, the moods are going
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: to be better when you're winning, and it doesn't matter.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: They can't think about who it's against because they were
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: struggling against worse sides too. Everybody said, oh, I can't
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: it's just Kremonin as Kremonese was one point behind us
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: when we played it. You know, they were tight in
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: all their games outside of the one against the Interre.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: Outside of that game, they were tight in all their games.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: So you can only beat who's in front of you.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I have good feelings about Sporting. I think they might
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: maybe go back to old habits and take the foot
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: off the gas against that Torino, and it might be
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: a grind. I'm not going to say that we won't
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: pull the result, but I think it might be an
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: ugly game. That Torino won, but I think tomorrow we
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: might be in for surprise. I think Spalletti might have
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: them rare to go. We're already seeing more vertical passes
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: than I think we've seen in five years at Uve.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: It for soul. Hey, we take the small wins right now. Man,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: we were winless in eight. Let's go two in a row,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: big one. Tomorrow we're at home. I'm going to say
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: that Spalletti will give these guys some ideas because everybody
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: said it's too soon. He's not going to do anything
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: in one day like this is no A coach can
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: still transmit ideas and game plans, you know, yeah, And
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: we talked about it. When you're kind of embarrassed, you've
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: been drugged through the mud, do you really need a raw,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: raw rothing right now? You should have pride kicking in,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, we would all have pride. It would
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: be like, man, these guys are ripping on us. They
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: say we're junk like whatever. Like coach doesn't need to
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: tell you anything, like to smarten up. If you can't
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: feel that you're not worth anything, you're certainly not worth
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: playing for youve so for him, it's just ideas and
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: game plan he's got to get it right against Sporting
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: and it'll be in the middle of the pitch, in
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: the midfield.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, Nick, you agree obviously with the results
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: of what BeRTOS or just before.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: We wrap it up, Yeah, I mean, well, what we're
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: gonna see tomorrow, I think first of all, I think
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: it's a big game, So I straight up I just
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: want to see all three points. I want to see
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: that turn around. I want to see like they they needed.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: They can be knocked out of the Champions League. That
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: would just be embarrassing. Obviously. Yeah, they need to when tomorrow.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: In terms of style of play, like, there's only so
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: much a new coach could do, you know, more vertical passes. Sure,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, they've won okay, one game, but you
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: can say two games since the firing of Tudor maybe
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the firing has kind of give them a kick in
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the ass. But Berto, one last question to wrap it up,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the famous last question goals for you, what do you
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: expect them or what do you think they should aim
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: for both in CITI and in Champions League. And you
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: could cope Italia for the rest of the season.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Champions League. You got to get into the knockouts. You
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: got to get into it, not even if it's like
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: a playoff to get to it, not like im and
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: you got to get in there. You can't get bounced
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: like in the league phase. Absolutely not. So take the
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: playoff and go from there. In the league, man, I
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: just think, and I said it all along, even all
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: these predictions at the start of the year said it's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be tight to the end. I feel like nobody's
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: really convincing, and I think it's gonna be that way
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the entire way through. And I think if any team,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: not just You've, but any team goes on a healthy streak,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the best streak will probably claim your winner. Whoever could
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: tally the most points over like a decent healthy run.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: We've got a shot in this schedule of November to
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: put us in the mix and in the discussion. Again,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be up to Spalletti and the players, but
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: this is a favorable schedule. We did start off with
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: a pretty rough schedule. We played everybody you know they'd entered,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: played Bolt me Lance, Yeah, played a lot of the
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: tough teams. The Champions League was tough first opening matches.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: It's November is good and I'd go as far as
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: say this with Spaletti. We're only gonna see really minimal
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: things right now. But we get a one week break,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if it's right after Torino. It
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: might be right after the Torino match. Yeah, yeah, I
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if that's when you see Juve come
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: out of it in a back four, when he's got
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit room and a little bit more time
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: to work on something. I think he'll get out of
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: this right now. I don't think he wants to rock
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: the boat, and he just wants to still get some
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: questions answered while still keeping the guys somewhat comfortable. But
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not I don't think he's going to lock into
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: this three man backs at the whole way. I don't
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: see it. We didn't pay sixty million for co Minor
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: as the center back guys.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Definitely definitely not Berto. It's been an absolute pleasure as always.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have to wrap it up now, but I
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:33
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