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INTERVIEW WITH: MINISTER BAEY YAM KENG & ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR CHRISTINA LIEW · 987 The Shock Circuit

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  Speaker 1: This morning on a segment that we feel should be
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  Speaker 1: a permanent thing from now onwards.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So if I'm not wrong, it's the 3rd time
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  Speaker 2: in as many years we've had them in our studio.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. And look, Singapore, we know it as a
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  Speaker 2: clean and green society. We want to keep Singapore clean, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: and our guests in the studio, firstly to the lovely
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  Speaker 2: lady on my right, associate professor of NTU, executive director
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  Speaker 2: of the Public Hygiene Council. Say good morning to Associate
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  Speaker 2: Professor Christina Liu.
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  Speaker 2: Morning.
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  Speaker 2: And the gentleman on her left needs no introduction, but
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  Speaker 2: didn't want any.
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  Speaker 2: Alama, right, yeah, there we go. Mayor, Northeast District, Minister
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  Speaker 2: of State for the Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth,
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  Speaker 2: as well as Ministry of Transport. Hopefully I got that right.
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  Speaker 2: We got Bayam King in this morning. And can I
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  Speaker 2: also add Tampines's gem? Yeah, all my friends in Tampines,
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  Speaker 2: all Bayam King Bayam so proud of
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  Speaker 2: him.
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  Speaker 1: National treasure
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  Speaker 2: over there. There we go.
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  Speaker 1: But
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  Speaker 2: seriously, you seem
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  Speaker 1: so
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  Speaker 2: busy.
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  Speaker 1: How are you coping with everything like
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  Speaker 2: right
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  Speaker 1: now?
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  Speaker 2: Art and science multitasking. I have a twin just standing
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  Speaker 2: for me somewhere in Tampines.
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  Speaker 2: So you better be careful. This could be a new
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  Speaker 2: mothership
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  Speaker 2: headline. Reveals as a
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  Speaker 2: twin. There you go. OK, so let's, let's firstly start
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  Speaker 2: with congratulating on 15 years of the Public Hygiene Council. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. And let's ask maybe Associate Professor Dr. Kristina Liu,
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  Speaker 2: what is the secret to the Public Hygiene Council's success
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  Speaker 2: and what are some
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  Speaker 2: of these successes you've seen so far in the last
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  Speaker 2: 15 years?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great question, Joakim. So I would think
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  Speaker 1: the success lies in our partnerships, our partnerships, our stakeholders,
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  Speaker 1: the communities, everybody who steps up to work closely with
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  Speaker 1: us and um without them, we couldn't do this. But again,
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  Speaker 1: it sort of reflects the fact that we need to
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  Speaker 1: build towards a We First society.
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  Speaker 1: And that we all have a hand in it. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the tagline this year, Joakim, keep Singapore clean, we
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  Speaker 1: all have a hand in it. Yeah, exactly. We do,
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  Speaker 1: we do. So it's about strengthening responsibility, personal responsibility as
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  Speaker 1: well as collective responsibility to keep our country clean. It's
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  Speaker 1: our home and what we do with it is what's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make our home beautiful and clean.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you you've been here in the studio
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  Speaker 1: several times, both of you actually. What were some of
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  Speaker 1: the results from the Public Hygiene Council that you can
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  Speaker 1: share with us um on air right now over the
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  Speaker 1: past few years?
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, um, in fact, we just did a a
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  Speaker 1: dipstick survey, uh, Sonia, very recently, and we found that 74%
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  Speaker 1: of the respondents to this survey, um, said that Singapore
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  Speaker 1: is cleaner than it was 15 years ago. So we're really,
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  Speaker 1: really happy about that and, um, 99% of people acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: that keeping Singapore clean and keeping our shared spaces clean
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  Speaker 1: is a collective responsibility as well as a personal responsibility. Um, we've, we've,
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  Speaker 1: PHC has had so many initiatives.
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  Speaker 1: Over the past 15 years, um, too many to name,
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  Speaker 1: but basically, um, lots of community engagement, huge networks, we
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  Speaker 1: have a corporate action network where we engage businesses and
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  Speaker 1: um we started last year and in one year alone
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  Speaker 1: we have more than 160 members. Um, we also have
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  Speaker 1: a Rise Champions network and all our partners out there,
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  Speaker 1: we have 60 member organizations and Cleanhood, remember last year
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about Cleanhood, we launched this program.
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  Speaker 1: To keep neighborhoods clean, so we get schools, businesses, residents
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  Speaker 1: involved and we have more than 300 partners already. So
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  Speaker 1: I think the success lies in that, um, the partnerships
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  Speaker 1: and what every single person is doing out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Singapore come from?
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  Speaker 2: Actually it should come from very selfish reasons because you
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  Speaker 2: want to enjoy a clean environment. It's for each of us,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we like to be in, in, in clean spaces,
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  Speaker 2: whether public spaces or at home and therefore what we,
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  Speaker 2: what we do at home to keep it clean, neat
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  Speaker 2: and tidy should apply to the places we go, we use,
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  Speaker 2: we visit, yeah, and, and Singapore, we are so small,
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  Speaker 2: all right, um, and, and it's, it's our responsibility to
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  Speaker 2: keep it clean and green.
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  Speaker 2: So, so I always felt that um it is a
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  Speaker 2: personal responsibility and of course what PHC is doing, has
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  Speaker 2: been doing all these 15 years is really to um
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  Speaker 2: to develop a culture and to build a community to
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  Speaker 2: make keeping our environment clean as a personal responsibility, but
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  Speaker 2: also it's a collective community effort.
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  Speaker 2: And to, to get people to feel excited about coming
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  Speaker 2: to pick up litter, you know, because this is actually
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  Speaker 2: very visible. I've been involved in various community pickup activities.
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  Speaker 2: It's so heartwarming to see actually parents bring in young
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  Speaker 2: kids and you see, even toddlers, you know, helping with
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  Speaker 2: the smart.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good way to tire them out,
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  Speaker 2: yeah, but, but they, I think these are good habits
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  Speaker 2: that we should cultivate from young.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what, you know, teachers teach in schools, and I,
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  Speaker 2: I really hope that parents, adults, we can also be
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  Speaker 2: role models because the kids learn from, from what they
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  Speaker 2: observe around, you know, how their parents, people around them behave,
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  Speaker 2: and I really hope that this is something that we
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  Speaker 2: can continue and that everyone can give, you know, can
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  Speaker 2: support and continue to keep Singapore clean.
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  Speaker 1: The public toilets are indeed cleaner. I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 1: you noticed this, Jokim. Like
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  Speaker 2: if you noticed that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it really makes you appreciate the kind of
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  Speaker 2: movements that our friends over the Public Hygiene Council are
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  Speaker 2: doing here in Singapore as well. 15 years of it.
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  Speaker 2: What can we expect? What is new for this year? Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy that you say toilet. I a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because I used to, uh, a task force or
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  Speaker 2: co-head a task force about keeping public toilets clean. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy to see that you observing.
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  Speaker 2: Difference,
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  Speaker 1: yeah, some
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  Speaker 1: difference. So tell us more because in 2026, we've got
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  Speaker 1: the Keep Singapore Clean campaign happening. Anything different that you're
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  Speaker 1: doing right now? Yeah, yeah, Sonia, so this year we
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  Speaker 1: are strengthening what we already have, but we're also rolling
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  Speaker 1: out new initiatives, but we just announced um at the
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  Speaker 1: launch that we're partnering CapitaLand More this year. So Capital
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  Speaker 1: Land Investment has always been our partner, but this year
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  Speaker 1: we're roll.
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  Speaker 1: Pulling out the initiative to 16 capital land malls all
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  Speaker 1: over Singapore. So they're gonna be playing our jingle, putting
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  Speaker 1: up our posters, playing our campaign video, the social etiquette
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  Speaker 1: video to tell people to get rid of their um
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  Speaker 1: food and drinks, um, drink packaging responsibly. Um, and also we're,
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  Speaker 1: we're having a roving exhibition. So we have this Clean pod,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you remember our Clean pod, and we
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  Speaker 1: have the exhibition at Three Capital Land Malls, um.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout the year, so people can go, they can take
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  Speaker 1: a look at what PhD has done over the years and, and, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, immerse themselves in it. But just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: add on to what Maya said just now about um
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  Speaker 1: uh uh engaging all segments of the population. So one
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  Speaker 1: thing that Maya said was to engage school children and
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  Speaker 1: that's what PhD really believes in, we believe in engaging
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  Speaker 1: children from young. So this year we started partnering.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've rolled out our initiatives to preschools and
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  Speaker 1: we also um of course engage schools as we have
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  Speaker 1: been doing for years and we've gone to institutes of
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  Speaker 1: higher learning as well to engage all segments of population
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  Speaker 1: and we've gone international as well. So we talk at
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  Speaker 1: international conferences and we engage um international communities living in
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  Speaker 1: Singapore through ASEAN Unite to keep our country clean.
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  Speaker 2: On that note about Capitol Land Malls, I guess something
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  Speaker 2: to look forward to over at Junction 8, Bishan. I
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  Speaker 2: want to see the screen and see the videos playing now. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go for a quick break. When we come back,
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  Speaker 2: more questions about keeping Singapore clean 2026 edition.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, you know, in general as well, like
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  Speaker 1: in your shopping malls and everywhere, we are really looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to see that happening and we're so happy that
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  Speaker 1: it's been.
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  Speaker 1: Having such a great impact on us for the past
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  Speaker 1: few years. If
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  Speaker 2: you just joined us again, we are having our friends
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  Speaker 2: from the Public Hygiene Council talk about keeping Singapore clean.
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  Speaker 2: We've got associate professor from NTU, Associate Professor Christina Liu,
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  Speaker 2: and Mayor Northeast District, Mayor Bae Yam Keng is in
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  Speaker 2: the studio with us as well.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: We're just having a chat off-air and on his TikTok
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  Speaker 1: live actually. So in case you missed it, hopefully you
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  Speaker 1: get some of your questions answered
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  Speaker 2: in
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  Speaker 1: the
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  Speaker 2: comment
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  Speaker 2: section. But, but to bring it to our on-air convo,
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  Speaker 2: we're having a chat about the toilets in Japan and
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  Speaker 2: in China where they have jingles, and then we asked,
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  Speaker 2: will Singapore do something similar? Anything you want to share
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  Speaker 2: with the class,
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  Speaker 1: to our esteemed guests toilets have become quite an attraction
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  Speaker 1: like in some places, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Joakim, seriously, the Public Hygiene Council
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  Speaker 1: has been looking into this because as you said, we've
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  Speaker 1: seen jingles in other places and we've seen that it
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  Speaker 1: actually works as a reminder for people to keep toilets clean.
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  Speaker 1: So we are doing this, we're working with schools to
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  Speaker 1: come up with jingles and we're gonna um hopefully play
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  Speaker 1: them at neighborhood places, even shopping malls to remind people
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  Speaker 1: to keep toilets clean. But one thing that we are
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  Speaker 1: actually rolling out is with Capital Land. So for this
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  Speaker 1: announcement that we just said that we're partnering Capital Laand
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  Speaker 1: for Keep Singapore Clean 2026, we're rolling out a jingle.
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  Speaker 1: Um, to keep the whole malls clean, um, on SG
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  Speaker 1: Clean Day in June and then we'll be doing it
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  Speaker 1: at toilets in, um, some, uh, food, food hub places
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  Speaker 1: as well. So food hub, coffee shops. So I think
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago we had an announcement where PHC
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  Speaker 1: is partnering um the Fuhoo um coffeestaurant and Bar Merchants Association.
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  Speaker 1: So we're working with them to roll out decals to
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  Speaker 1: keep toilets clean as well as public areas in the
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  Speaker 1: coffee shops clean at 400 coffee shops, 400 Fuiao coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Shops over the whole of Singapore. But at 40 food hub, um,
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  Speaker 1: coffee shops will be rolling out um the jingle and
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  Speaker 1: also doing our um neighborhood toilets community group program there
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  Speaker 1: to keep toilets clean. Love that, love that. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Singapore is one of the places
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  Speaker 1: in the world where I don't mind going to a
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  Speaker 1: public toilet in a coffee shop, right? The impression has changed.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm switching over to Mayor Bay right now. Earlier on,
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  Speaker 1: you were mentioning, you know, you've been a part of
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  Speaker 1: so many different cleanup initiatives, right? What is the next
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  Speaker 1: one that we can
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  Speaker 1: Maybe be a part of or anything coming up soon
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  Speaker 1: in 2026,
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  Speaker 2: any
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  Speaker 2: initiatives I think when we do community cleanup it might
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  Speaker 2: be something sustainable, yeah, to make it a habit, a
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  Speaker 2: regular occurrence. Um, so in the community, in a, in
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  Speaker 2: a district, we do have various, uh, on the ground activations, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, led by the different grassroots organizations, different local leaders, uh,
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  Speaker 2: or residents network. So, so for example, uh, well in Tampines.
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  Speaker 2: But under Messa Masagos, uh, they had the latest Clean port, alright,
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  Speaker 2: where they, uh, work with the schools, the students of
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  Speaker 2: Tampines Secondary School to design, you know, the, the clean
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  Speaker 2: port so that there's some student involvement to make the
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  Speaker 2: clean port look more attractive and a site right in
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  Speaker 2: the park, um, and, and then the students and residents
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  Speaker 2: are involved in to pick up litter and because of
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  Speaker 2: the clean port there, uh, residents can
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  Speaker 2: Easily access, uh, cleaning tools. They can just unlock, right, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the port and then you can have pails, tongs, whatever, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to help them to do pickup, a little pickup, and
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  Speaker 2: these are things that we want to roll out, not just, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in Tampines in northeast district but the whole of Singapore,
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  Speaker 2: which we're doing exactly, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if I may add on to what Mayor said, Sonia,
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  Speaker 1: for this for this KFC 2026, we're also rolling out PhDs.
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  Speaker 1: 15 cleaners champions relay and we're working with Mayor on
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  Speaker 1: that actually. So what we've done is to gather 20
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  Speaker 1: key partners who will do cleanups at 15 key locations
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  Speaker 1: throughout Singapore, working together with Mayor on this, um, and
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  Speaker 1: we're mobilizing thousands of volunteers to really step up cleaning
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  Speaker 1: at these 15 key locations. We have this map that
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  Speaker 1: we put out. So, um, lots of things in the
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  Speaker 1: pipeline working together with Mayer and other key partners throughout Singapore.
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  Speaker 2: Because earlier when we brought up toilets, you say you're
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  Speaker 2: so happy to hear that we have clean toilets here
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  Speaker 2: in Singapore. You're part of the task force, right? Have
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  Speaker 2: any of your colleagues in parliament before it starts, they say, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: my area now very
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  Speaker 2: clean, ah, feedback
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  Speaker 2: because I mean, you've been on this board for so long.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you've seen improvements along the way as
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  Speaker 2: well in Singapore. Yeah, I think what we observe is that, um,
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  Speaker 2: besides the habits of, um, the people using toilets, it
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  Speaker 2: also needs a proper.
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  Speaker 2: Regime of cleaning a toilet, not just the day to day,
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  Speaker 2: but also sometimes you need deep cleaning like every few months,
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  Speaker 2: especially very uh highly patronized, uh, toilets in coffee shops,
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  Speaker 2: you do need things like, you know, the proper equipment, uh, chemicals,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and tools and the profession, uh, professionals to,
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  Speaker 2: to do it properly and um the other part that
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  Speaker 2: we also look at is the infras how is, how
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  Speaker 2: is it designed and built.
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  Speaker 2: Because you know sometimes it's, it's really an art and
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  Speaker 2: science in how the, the different, um, sort of gadgets
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  Speaker 2: in the toilets are designed so that you know it's
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  Speaker 2: ease of use, so that water, you know, uh, splashing
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  Speaker 2: everywhere after you wash your hands, you know, so that
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  Speaker 2: you don't flick your fake hands and then all the
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  Speaker 2: whole floor is wet and it gets dirty so much easily.
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  Speaker 2: So these are things that are incorporated into this, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, guidelines that we also want to help.
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  Speaker 2: Public toilet operators or you know, builders to know what
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  Speaker 2: are the best practices and how to design a great toilet.
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  Speaker 2: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought toilets. I mean, look, man, seeing how
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  Speaker 1: it's 15 years of PhD, right? Everyone should allocate 15
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  Speaker 1: minutes every day to just do something to clean up
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  Speaker 1: your office. It might be all environment. Yeah, you can
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  Speaker 1: take this idea for free, it's OK.
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  Speaker 1: Sonia, that's a fantastic idea, but um we do have
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  Speaker 1: that idea. We have mobile clean pods. So what Mia
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  Speaker 1: said was that the static clean pod that we have,
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  Speaker 1: we have mobile clean pods, we give it out to
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  Speaker 1: anybody who asks all our partners, corporates, and then they
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  Speaker 1: can clean. And do you know that we have a
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  Speaker 1: mascot who actually looks like a toilet? His name is Toilelimon.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Toilelimon. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: yeah, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it before. Yes, is there, is there like
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  Speaker 2: a stuffed toy.
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  Speaker 2: Did you leave one here like last year?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we did. So we give this out to stakeholders
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  Speaker 1: to remind people it's very cute. Yeah. Isn't he cute?
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  Speaker 1: So he's actually a toilet bowl. This is a, there's a,
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  Speaker 1: there's a reusable bag. Yeah. What? That's so cute. Hey, Bram, Bram.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, I want the green one. I'm gonna,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm keeping.
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  Speaker 1: Should we got all of them for you. So the
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  Speaker 1: green one is a bin, trashymon, and he's to remind
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  Speaker 1: you to throw away your rubbish properly. And the pink one,
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  Speaker 1: her name is Trey Ramon. Trey Ramon is to remind
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  Speaker 1: you to return your trays and to keep your tables
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  Speaker 1: clean after eating. If not, she's watching you, she's got
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  Speaker 1: 3 eyes,
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  Speaker 2: she's so pretty. I feel like I'm holding on to
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  Speaker 2: the next exclusive blind. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: this is like a charm 100%. I'm gonna put it
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  Speaker 1: in my bag. We just made it for this launch.
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  Speaker 1: So cute. This is adorable very exclusive. If
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  Speaker 2: you need someone to play trashy volunteers on
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  Speaker 2: YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trashy in other ways, so no.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us today
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  Speaker 1: and for bringing us on board your TikTok live as well.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you would like to share before we let
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  Speaker 1: the both of
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  Speaker 2: you go? Singaporeans to Singapore. I want to start with you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: really I think it's the same message, uh, it's everyone's responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just the work of the cleaners, but always
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  Speaker 2: remember litter does not grow by itself. It's not a plant,
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  Speaker 2: it's not an organism. It is there because someone has
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  Speaker 2: left it there, you know, without.
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  Speaker 2: in regards for others. We have dustbins, trash bins everywhere
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  Speaker 2: in Singapore, it's not too difficult to walk a few
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  Speaker 2: more steps to throw it in the public space. So
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  Speaker 2: it's something that we all, all of us can do
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  Speaker 2: it and only when all of us do it, then
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Singapore will be clean.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: For me, um, Keep Singapore Clean movement began in 1968
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: with our founding Prime Minister Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, so
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it's something we have to keep alive. It's our.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: responsibility to keep this legacy alive and we should leave
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: places as clean as if not cleaner than when we
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: first found these places. And when we leave something cleaner,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: we show care and responsibility and consideration towards the next user.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: So it's something we all should do and we all
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: know we should do it. So let's do it together. Yes,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: we do. Thank you. Thank you so much. Hey, so
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: um shall we schedule our next meet up at the
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: same time next year or end of this year.