Latest / The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert / Free Flowing Comments about Omaha
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Going to be on fire today. I think it's supposed
- 0:02Speaker 1: to be 95 degrees out there today. Peyton shaking his
- 0:05Speaker 1: head going, ooh, that doesn't sound good. I am your host,
- 0:08Speaker 1: Jean Stothert. Peyton Heilach, my producer, is also here. Good morning.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Good morning, Jean.
- 0:14Speaker 1: How are you today?
- 0:15Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good.
- 0:15Speaker 1: You're all in green. You look Irish today.
- 0:17Speaker 2: A little Irish.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm Irish now by marriage.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Yes, that is true. Okay.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I'm married to Kevin O'Rourke. How much more Irish.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Can that be? That is about as Irish as it gets.
- 0:29Speaker 1: His family is from Limerick, Ireland. So, yes, I am
- 0:33Speaker 1: now Irish by marriage. But I am Jean Stothert on
- 0:36Speaker 1: this show, and thank you all for being with us today.
- 0:39Speaker 1: We want to hear from you. We want to get
- 0:40Speaker 1: your feedback. We want to hear your comments, concerns, questions, complaints.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Anything goes. We've talked about the streetcar this week quite
- 0:49Speaker 1: a bit. City, state, national, or the world. And we
- 0:52Speaker 1: will have plenty of guests. We have a good guest
- 0:54Speaker 1: coming on tomorrow. But today, the show, the floor is yours.
- 0:57Speaker 1: But of course, we will always have plenty of good guests.
- 1:00Speaker 1: But it's your chance to speak up and sound off.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So you can send your emails. to comment at kfab.com.
- 1:07Speaker 1: You can call us at 402-558-1110, or you can leave
- 1:11Speaker 1: us a recorded message on the talkback mic, and we
- 1:14Speaker 1: will play it on the air. We are so happy
- 1:16Speaker 1: that you are with us. Boy, Peyton and I are
- 1:19Speaker 1: looking at the TV screen here in the studio, and
- 1:22Speaker 1: this Clancy jury, this is getting to be a little
- 1:27Speaker 1: bit worrisome if you've been following the Lindsay Clancy case
- 1:30Speaker 1: because they are now saying they can't make a unanimous decision.
- 1:35Speaker 1: The judge just instructed them this morning to keep on deliberating. Boy,
- 1:38Speaker 1: if this comes out to a hung jury, this is
- 1:40Speaker 1: going to be quite interesting.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yes, it is a little bit interesting. And after the
- 1:48Speaker 2: weekend off. 15 hours of deliberation yesterday.
- 1:52Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:53Speaker 2: And now suspicions of a hung jury today. It's a
- 1:57Speaker 2: little bit questionable.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Well, we will be on Verdict Watch while we are
- 2:01Speaker 1: in the studio today, and we'll come in and tell
- 2:03Speaker 1: you anything if anything has been decided. But it's really
- 2:08Speaker 1: an interesting case, and there's so much speculation out there
- 2:12Speaker 1: about what happened and so many comments and people giving
- 2:19Speaker 1: their opinion. So it'll be interesting when this jury rests
- 2:22Speaker 1: and when they come out with a decision. However, today,
- 2:26Speaker 1: like I said, we want to hear from you. We've
- 2:28Speaker 1: had a lot of good conversations this week. One thing
- 2:31Speaker 1: I did want to bring up, because it is on
- 2:33Speaker 1: the front page of the World Herald, but the city council,
- 2:36Speaker 1: I think Rosie and And Scott brought it up a
- 2:39Speaker 1: little bit this morning, but the city council is going
- 2:41Speaker 1: to consider changes to TIF use. And that's one of
- 2:46Speaker 1: those subjects. It's like affordable housing. It's so hard to
- 2:51Speaker 1: explain how we use TIF, how it is good for
- 2:55Speaker 1: the city, the way that we use it. and to
- 2:58Speaker 1: explain about affordable housing. But this has come from a
- 3:04Speaker 1: plan that we developed back when I was still in
- 3:08Speaker 1: office and still the mayor, and we called it the
- 3:10Speaker 1: HAP plan, H-A-A-P, which is Housing and Affordability Action Plan.
- 3:16Speaker 1: And we started that in 2022, and some of this
- 3:20Speaker 1: ended with a recommendation to really update the city's TIF approach.
- 3:26Speaker 1: And so we formed a committee, and these are basically
- 3:31Speaker 1: recommendations that came from the planning department and from that committee.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But I don't know. I would assume if it came
- 3:38Speaker 1: from the planning department, we have a very good planning department,
- 3:42Speaker 1: a very good planning director. Dave Fanslaw does a great job.
- 3:46Speaker 1: But one of the recommendations, there's basically five that will
- 3:49Speaker 1: go in front of the city council. And it is
- 3:51Speaker 1: a resolution. And so it is not a ordinance, which
- 3:55Speaker 1: would be a law. But it is a no net
- 3:58Speaker 1: loss policy mandating that if projects... new projects are going
- 4:04Speaker 1: to demolish residential units. They either have to replace them
- 4:09Speaker 1: or pay into an affordable housing development fund. Otherwise, if
- 4:13Speaker 1: they tear down affordable housing, they have to replace the
- 4:16Speaker 1: affordable housing. I'm not sure that I can think of
- 4:19Speaker 1: any instance where that happened. So I hope this isn't
- 4:24Speaker 1: just a feel-good type of thing. I'm not sure. And
- 4:29Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting what the city council, their discussion today.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I know one of the council members, Don Rowe, was
- 4:35Speaker 1: on that committee. But they just want to make sure
- 4:38Speaker 1: that we are updating our use of TIF and make
- 4:41Speaker 1: sure that the city gets the most bang for their
- 4:44Speaker 1: buck by using it. A lot of people don't understand
- 4:47Speaker 1: how we use TIF, and they do believe that we
- 4:50Speaker 1: are taking taxpayer dollars, and we are not. Because once again,
- 4:55Speaker 1: if you try to explain it, if you've got some
- 4:57Speaker 1: old gas station on a corner that is vacant and
- 5:00Speaker 1: empty and the property tax that they're paying is very
- 5:03Speaker 1: small and you get a developer come in and he
- 5:06Speaker 1: wants to build multifamily apartments with some, say, a restaurant
- 5:13Speaker 1: and some retail around there, that area, if they tiff
- 5:17Speaker 1: it and make it more affordable for that developer to
- 5:20Speaker 1: develop there, that is only going to greatly increase the
- 5:24Speaker 1: property taxes that will be paid on that corner in
- 5:27Speaker 1: the future. Otherwise, it's just going to continue to be
- 5:30Speaker 1: an old empty gas station that the value goes down, down, down.
- 5:34Speaker 1: So it's a good thing. It's not just something that
- 5:37Speaker 1: they rubber stamp when anybody applies for TIF. In fact,
- 5:42Speaker 1: they have kind of a meeting, I would say, I'll
- 5:45Speaker 1: call it a meeting, with the planning department when a
- 5:50Speaker 1: and thinks that he would qualify for TIF, and even
- 5:53Speaker 1: before they apply or the planning department gets their plan,
- 5:58Speaker 1: they come in and talk to the planning department, and
- 6:00Speaker 1: a lot of times the planning department will just say then, no,
- 6:02Speaker 1: this isn't going to work. This is not something that
- 6:06Speaker 1: I can tell you that would be something that would
- 6:08Speaker 1: be eligible for TIF. So there's a lot that goes
- 6:11Speaker 1: into whether they award TIF or not. It goes through
- 6:14Speaker 1: the planning department. That's discussed in an open meeting in
- 6:17Speaker 1: public with public comments.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Then.
- 6:20Speaker 1: it goes to the city council and the city council
- 6:23Speaker 1: discuss it. So they use a very, very careful use
- 6:26Speaker 1: of TIF. And there is a TIF report that comes
- 6:29Speaker 1: out every year that anybody could look at. And it's
- 6:32Speaker 1: on the planning department's webpage. The other thing is affordable housing.
- 6:38Speaker 1: And it is so difficult to define, but I just
- 6:42Speaker 1: want to go through it one more time since this
- 6:44Speaker 1: is a topic that's going to be in the city
- 6:46Speaker 1: council agenda today. But it is, hard to define affordable
- 6:51Speaker 1: housing because an affordable one-bedroom unit for a single person
- 6:58Speaker 1: is different than it would be for a couple. And
- 7:00Speaker 1: then you also have to include utilities in the calculation
- 7:05Speaker 1: along with the rental rate. So that means an older unit,
- 7:09Speaker 1: say with a bad furnace or AC system, could make
- 7:12Speaker 1: a unit unaffordable even if the rent is within the
- 7:16Speaker 1: range because of the utility costs. So then a unit
- 7:21Speaker 1: might be affordable for someone which is in workforce housing.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And I told you before, I mentioned it on this show,
- 7:28Speaker 1: that these definitions come from HUD. And if you start
- 7:32Speaker 1: at the very bottom, you have subsidized or Section 8 housing,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and those are subsidized by the government. And then you
- 7:39Speaker 1: go up to affordable, then you go to workforce, then
- 7:43Speaker 1: you go to market rate, and then you go to luxury.
- 7:49Speaker 1: is defined at if you are making 80 to 120%
- 7:55Speaker 1: of the median income in the county. Now, this is
- 7:58Speaker 1: where it gets difficult. Where affordable is someone making less
- 8:04Speaker 1: than 80% of the median income in the county. And so, sometimes,
- 8:12Speaker 1: you know, it'll be 60 to 80% of the income
- 8:15Speaker 1: could be if you make compared to the average market
- 8:20Speaker 1: rate income in the area. It's really hard to understand.
- 8:24Speaker 1: It seems like I'm stuttering around here. But it's all
- 8:27Speaker 1: based on the county median income. Therefore, affordable in Omaha
- 8:32Speaker 1: is different than what's affordable in New York or Los Angeles.
- 8:36Speaker 1: So it's all based on the median income in your
- 8:41Speaker 1: area or your county. And so it's very confusing because
- 8:44Speaker 1: they talk about, like I said, affordable in the 60%
- 8:48Speaker 1: to 80% of the median range or its workforce if
- 8:52Speaker 1: it's 80% to 120% of the median range. But the
- 8:55Speaker 1: easiest way to define affordable is usually to refer to
- 8:58Speaker 1: the household size and the income and the use at
- 9:02Speaker 1: that as the measure against the cost of renting plus utilities.
- 9:08Speaker 1: For instance, you could say that a couple making– So
- 9:12Speaker 1: much per year can afford rent of a certain amount,
- 9:17Speaker 1: which includes utilities for a one-bedroom, or a family of
- 9:21Speaker 1: four with joint income can afford something different for a two-bedroom.
- 9:26Speaker 1: So it's very complex of what is affordable and what
- 9:29Speaker 1: is not. And so when you hear the mayor, Mayor Ewing,
- 9:34Speaker 1: is saying his number one priority is affordable housing in
- 9:38Speaker 1: the city of Omaha, then that's certainly a question to
- 9:41Speaker 1: ask the mayor.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Yeah, Jean, and it sounds like you can't really define
- 9:46Speaker 2: affordable in one sentence because what's affordable to me is
- 9:50Speaker 2: not the same affordability to you, to somebody that I
- 9:54Speaker 2: pass in my car on the street, and how big
- 9:57Speaker 2: your family is, how many people are living. So affordable.
- 10:00Speaker 2: has a net, if you will, of a lot of
- 10:03Speaker 2: differences within it. So it's tough to define, but you
- 10:06Speaker 2: have to work towards affordability. for everybody in all income ranges.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:12Speaker 1: And if you look at the matrix, like I said,
- 10:14Speaker 1: with HUD, who defines those things, there's a table that
- 10:20Speaker 1: talks about your household size and your household income. And
- 10:24Speaker 1: it's broken down for between the 80 and 120% of
- 10:29Speaker 1: the average median income in the area, then the 60
- 10:32Speaker 1: to 80%, and then under 60%. And so that's what
- 10:36Speaker 1: they're looking at based on the average median income in
- 10:41Speaker 1: the area that you live in. And so, again, affordable
- 10:45Speaker 1: for what is affordable for, say, you and your wife
- 10:48Speaker 1: for a one-bedroom without kids with two incomes that you
- 10:53Speaker 1: have might be not affordable for somebody else. So, I
- 10:57Speaker 1: hear that a lot when we talk about, you know,
- 11:01Speaker 1: different developments, for example, where the Twin Towers were downtown
- 11:05Speaker 1: that Todd Hested is developing into 707 apartments. And he said,
- 11:10Speaker 1: originally about 30% of those will be affordable. And immediately
- 11:13Speaker 1: people were saying, well, what is that? What's the rent
- 11:15Speaker 1: for a one bedroom? When he said what the rent was,
- 11:18Speaker 1: they said, well, that's not affordable for me. And that
- 11:20Speaker 1: is true because it may not be affordable for that person,
- 11:24Speaker 1: depending on that person's income.
- 11:26Speaker 2: And you've said in the past, when talking about affordable housing,
- 11:29Speaker 2: Affordable housing doesn't mean cheap housing.
- 11:32Speaker 1: No, it does not. And it does not mean subsidized
- 11:34Speaker 1: housing either. And again, affordable and workforce are two different things.
- 11:41Speaker 1: And so workforce is right under what is market rate. And,
- 11:44Speaker 1: you know, I even asked recently several developers in Omaha,
- 11:49Speaker 1: what is an average one bedroom market rate apartment in Omaha?
- 11:53Speaker 1: And I got three different answers. which I thought was,
- 11:56Speaker 1: was quite interesting. I got 1200, I got, um, 1400
- 12:01Speaker 1: and I got 1800. And so, you know, it really, it, it,
- 12:05Speaker 1: that's even a little, um, questionable about what the actual
- 12:10Speaker 1: market rate is in the city of Omaha. So some
- 12:15Speaker 1: of it depends on the area that you're into. So
- 12:18Speaker 1: all of those things play into what is affordable, but,
- 12:22Speaker 1: but again, this, um, resolution that's on the agenda today
- 12:27Speaker 1: that they're going to discuss, it does consider changes to
- 12:31Speaker 1: how we use TIF, and that is linked to affordable housing.
- 12:35Speaker 1: And so, you know, to say how the current mayor
- 12:39Speaker 1: is defining it, what level of affordable housing that he
- 12:44Speaker 1: wants to see, the city of Omaha has been partners
- 12:47Speaker 1: with Front Porch for some time. Back when I was
- 12:50Speaker 1: still mayor, we were still very, very engaged with Front
- 12:54Speaker 1: Porch with affordable housing, and they are still a partner
- 12:58Speaker 1: with the city. And that's under Sherwood Foundation too. So
- 13:04Speaker 1: how many units that the city is wanting to build
- 13:08Speaker 1: every year, that's something that I think should be discussed
- 13:12Speaker 1: and the questions should be asked to the new mayor.
- 13:15Speaker 2: The comments are flowing today on the KFAB comment line.
- 13:18Speaker 2: We have a lot rolling in here, Jean. If you
- 13:20Speaker 2: have something that you would like to say, give us
- 13:21Speaker 2: a call, 402-558-1110. or comment at kfab.com. Gene, let's fire
- 13:27Speaker 2: through some comments here from the listeners. This first one
- 13:30Speaker 2: is from Chris. Chris, you are live with Gene Stothert
- 13:33Speaker 2: here on 1110 KFAB.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Hi, I'm here, Gene.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Good morning. So I have a quick question. So you
- 13:43Speaker 4: hear about the lawsuits that the state of Nebraska are
- 13:46Speaker 4: selling for millions of dollars. And I'm just curious, where
- 13:51Speaker 4: does that money go And do the cities like Omaha
- 13:54Speaker 4: and the rest of the cities around Nebraska see any
- 13:56Speaker 4: of that settlement money?
- 13:58Speaker 1: You mean with META?
- 14:01Speaker 4: Yeah, just in general, it always seems like, you know, there's,
- 14:04Speaker 4: you know, Nebraska is one of many states that is
- 14:07Speaker 4: settling lawsuits. Right. Against the citizens and stuff like that.
- 14:10Speaker 4: And I'm just curious, you know, because with the, you know,
- 14:13Speaker 4: with most of the state not having two nickels to
- 14:15Speaker 4: rub together, you know, where does that money go and
- 14:18Speaker 4: is it distributed to... you know, cities like Omaha, Lincoln,
- 14:22Speaker 4: or throughout the, you know, what happens to that money?
- 14:26Speaker 1: You know, what happens with the state is something that
- 14:31Speaker 1: I am not 100% sure of. I would assume it
- 14:35Speaker 1: would go into the state's general fund. And, you know,
- 14:38Speaker 1: like if, for an example, this settlement with META, so
- 14:42Speaker 1: far they said the state of Nebraska could get up
- 14:47Speaker 1: to $ 200 million. So we don't know exactly... if we
- 14:51Speaker 1: will get that much at this point in time. But
- 14:54Speaker 1: I think usually it would go back into the general fund. Now,
- 14:59Speaker 1: with the city of Omaha, there's basically four funds where
- 15:04Speaker 1: your tax dollars go into. And one is the general fund,
- 15:09Speaker 1: one is debt service, the other is the redevelopment fund,
- 15:12Speaker 1: and then there's a judgment fund. And that judgment fund
- 15:15Speaker 1: is money that we put into an account to fund
- 15:19Speaker 1: basically fight lawsuits and settle lawsuits. So I think with
- 15:23Speaker 1: the city of Omaha, if a lawsuit is settled and
- 15:25Speaker 1: the city of Omaha wins it and gets some sort
- 15:29Speaker 1: of award with it, monetary award, in my opinion, I
- 15:32Speaker 1: think it would go back into the judgment fund.
- 15:35Speaker 2: I looked this up too, after we had this result
- 15:38Speaker 2: of the meta settlement with attorney general Mike Hilgers and the, the, the,
- 15:45Speaker 2: the Money that the state will receive for this meta-settlement
- 15:50Speaker 2: is going to go to the Nebraska State Settlement Cash Fund.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Okay.
- 15:53Speaker 2: It's a pool of money Nebraska receives when lawsuits happen
- 15:57Speaker 2: like this.
- 15:58Speaker 4: Right.
- 15:58Speaker 2: And under state law, it's administered by the attorney general.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Okay.
- 16:03Speaker 2: He is the one that decides. And I don't know
- 16:05Speaker 2: what the checks and balances are of that. But the
- 16:07Speaker 2: legislature can also direct transfers to other state funds, including
- 16:12Speaker 2: the general fund, State Patrol cash fund, financial literacy cash fund,
- 16:17Speaker 2: and other funds. But it goes to the settlement fund
- 16:19Speaker 2: for the state of Nebraska, which then it can be
- 16:22Speaker 2: distributed other places after that.
- 16:24Speaker 1: And that makes sense because that's very similar to what
- 16:27Speaker 1: I said about the city of Omaha. It would go
- 16:30Speaker 1: into the judgment fund, as far as I know, and
- 16:33Speaker 1: that would be managed basically by the city attorney. And
- 16:38Speaker 1: then it could be moved into some of these other
- 16:41Speaker 1: funds like general fund, debt service, or redevelopment if that
- 16:44Speaker 1: judgment fund gets to be too large, if it's a big,
- 16:47Speaker 1: big settlement. Usually not. Usually they want to have enough
- 16:51Speaker 1: money in there so that if the city is sued
- 16:53Speaker 1: that they could pay their debt service. The reason they
- 16:56Speaker 1: do this with the city, and I could talk more
- 16:58Speaker 1: about the city, but I'm sure it's similar to the state,
- 17:01Speaker 1: is because if there is a judgment that is settled
- 17:04Speaker 1: against the state or against the city of Omaha, the
- 17:07Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is pay that judgment
- 17:09Speaker 1: out of the general fund because all city departments are
- 17:13Speaker 1: funded out of the general fund. Police department, fire department,
- 17:17Speaker 1: the libraries, the planning department. and you don't, Parks Department,
- 17:22Speaker 1: and you don't want to have some settlement against the city,
- 17:25Speaker 1: and you'd have to take money out of the fund
- 17:28Speaker 1: that is funding all these city departments. Because you don't
- 17:30Speaker 1: want to say, oh, we got a settlement against the city,
- 17:33Speaker 1: so now we're going to have to get rid of
- 17:34Speaker 1: a bunch of firemen and policemen. No, you don't want that.
- 17:37Speaker 1: You want your general fund protected. So it makes a
- 17:39Speaker 1: lot of sense to have a judgment fund, or like
- 17:41Speaker 1: the state does. What did you say the state calls it?
- 17:43Speaker 1: A state settlement cash fund. Yeah, it's something very, very similar.
- 17:49Speaker 1: And so, but if that fund gets to be too much,
- 17:52Speaker 1: I know they have, they decide on an amount of
- 17:54Speaker 1: money that they feel like they need in that fund
- 17:56Speaker 1: that they need to keep in that fund. If it
- 17:58Speaker 1: gets too high, then I think with a vote, it
- 18:01Speaker 1: could be transferred to other departments.
- 18:03Speaker 2: I see this like at home with your family finances,
- 18:07Speaker 2: they say to have three to six months of emergency
- 18:10Speaker 2: money ready to go in case something happens, you're good
- 18:12Speaker 2: for it. You know, and I think that that's pretty similar,
- 18:15Speaker 2: but that's a really good question, Chris. Thank you very much. Ultimately,
- 18:18Speaker 2: with this meta case, though, I don't think it's expected
- 18:22Speaker 2: to come back into the Nebraska pockets, the people of
- 18:26Speaker 2: Nebraska's pockets.
- 18:27Speaker 1: No, no, it doesn't go. No, it's it would stay
- 18:31Speaker 1: with the states.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 18:33Speaker 1: You know, with their their their budget. And, you know,
- 18:37Speaker 1: right now we are still facing a budget shortfall. And so,
- 18:41Speaker 1: you know, that is something that the state and the
- 18:43Speaker 1: legislators and the governor will have a lot of say about,
- 18:46Speaker 1: I'm sure.
- 18:46Speaker 2: Gene, we talked about this last week. This is an
- 18:49Speaker 2: email from Tom at comment at KFAB.com. What in the
- 18:53Speaker 2: world is going on on Q Street? It's torn up
- 18:55Speaker 2: between 192nd and 204th, and it looks like they're tearing
- 18:57Speaker 2: up past 12th. to 204th to 208th as well.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Oh, we had Todd Fitzgerald on last week that explained
- 19:08Speaker 1: a lot of this. Maybe we'll have to replay some
- 19:11Speaker 1: of the things that he said because that is in
- 19:14Speaker 1: Douglas County that is not in the city of Omaha.
- 19:17Speaker 1: And so I asked the Douglas County engineer to come
- 19:21Speaker 1: on the show and he did explain what was going
- 19:23Speaker 1: on there as well as several other areas that there's
- 19:28Speaker 1: a lot of road construction that's in Douglas County. And
- 19:31Speaker 1: so maybe we should find that. I can try and
- 19:35Speaker 1: find that clip too.
- 19:36Speaker 2: But I think it was essentially the delays because of
- 19:41Speaker 2: what it would take to get the infrastructure and the
- 19:43Speaker 2: supplies or something along those lines where the time of
- 19:48Speaker 2: things to get here.
- 19:50Speaker 1: The main reason he said, and the reason I really
- 19:54Speaker 1: wanted him to come on, is because Mike McKnight did
- 19:56Speaker 1: a story on it, and he did ask Todd Fitzer,
- 20:00Speaker 1: the Douglas County engineer, he really wanted him to say
- 20:03Speaker 1: it's because of the streetcar.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Right. Right.
- 20:06Speaker 1: And the reasons that it's delayed, and this happens with
- 20:10Speaker 1: every road project that we do in Omaha, if there
- 20:13Speaker 1: is utility work to be done before the road project
- 20:16Speaker 1: can be complete, you are at the mercy of the
- 20:19Speaker 1: utility companies, and that would be OPPD, MUD, and the
- 20:23Speaker 1: cable companies. And a lot of times you'll get one
- 20:26Speaker 1: to come in and do their work right away, and
- 20:28Speaker 1: then you wait and you wait and you wait. And
- 20:30Speaker 1: the reason that they said, oh, it's because of the streetcar,
- 20:34Speaker 1: and they wanted Todd to say it, which Todd Fitzgerald
- 20:36Speaker 1: did not say that. But the point is that there
- 20:40Speaker 1: are so many big projects going on now, including the streetcar,
- 20:44Speaker 1: that there's a lot of utility work being done. But
- 20:47Speaker 1: there's a lot of road work all over Omaha, too,
- 20:50Speaker 1: with a lot of utility work. So the utility companies
- 20:54Speaker 1: are stretched very thin. And so they're not able to
- 20:57Speaker 1: come in there and get things done as quick as
- 21:00Speaker 1: the city or the county wants them so they could
- 21:02Speaker 1: complete that project. And so he said basically it was
- 21:06Speaker 1: delayed because they were waiting on the utility work underground
- 21:09Speaker 1: to get done. And then there's really nothing that the
- 21:13Speaker 1: city or the county can do about that. They just
- 21:15Speaker 1: have to wait.
- 21:16Speaker 2: And Todd Fitzgerald did say that that area that they're
- 21:20Speaker 2: going to be tearing up West from 204th to 208th.
- 21:24Speaker 2: That is a proactive construction project to get those intersections
- 21:29Speaker 2: figured out. So when the expansion and the growth continues West,
- 21:33Speaker 2: it'll be seamless that way. And another important distinction he
- 21:37Speaker 2: said is that the man hours for the project on
- 21:41Speaker 2: Q street from 192nd to 204th has not gone over
- 21:45Speaker 2: the contracted man hours, which means it's not over budget
- 21:48Speaker 2: in that way.
- 21:49Speaker 3: Right.
- 21:50Speaker 1: And sometimes they, you know, on these road projects, they
- 21:52Speaker 1: will put a, you know, they'll put a timeline on them.
- 21:58Speaker 1: And then there are, they call them liquidated damages that
- 22:01Speaker 1: they would basically fine them. the construction company, if they
- 22:04Speaker 1: don't get it done by a certain time, but they
- 22:06Speaker 1: are still within that time. You know, a lot of
- 22:09Speaker 1: times work around the schools, for example, have liquidated damages
- 22:13Speaker 1: that are attached to the work because they want the
- 22:16Speaker 1: work done before school starts. So they're like, sorry, utility companies,
- 22:20Speaker 1: we are on a timeline. You have to get this
- 22:22Speaker 1: done by this certain time or you're going to have
- 22:25Speaker 1: to pay us more money. And so that usually gets
- 22:28Speaker 1: them going. But usually the city doesn't like to do that,
- 22:32Speaker 1: to have liquidated damages, because usually the construction company, if
- 22:38Speaker 1: they know that's on there, they're just going to charge
- 22:40Speaker 1: you more.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Gene Stothert and the KFAB comment line. My name is
- 22:44Speaker 2: Peyton Highlock. When we come back from break, I got
- 22:46Speaker 2: comments about gas prices, the shooting in the old market
- 22:50Speaker 2: and some occupying force.
- 22:52Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 22:53Speaker 2: The Lindsey Clancy trial and some window tinting. Lots more
- 22:57Speaker 2: to come here with Gene Stothert and the KFAB comment
- 22:59Speaker 2: line on KFAB. Gene Stothert and the KFAB comment line.
- 23:03Speaker 2: I'm Peyton Highlock controlling the board. And Gene, the comments
- 23:07Speaker 2: are flowing today.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Good.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Lots of talk about from you guys. We love the input,
- 23:12Speaker 2: the questions, the comments, and the concerns. We spoke yesterday, Gene,
- 23:16Speaker 2: about the old market shooting.
- 23:17Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 23:18Speaker 2: And we got an email from Dale Nunez. Good morning, Jean.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Is it time for Mayor Ewing to call on the
- 23:24Speaker 2: occupying force to help secure 12th and Howard on Saturday nights?
- 23:32Speaker 1: The occupying force would be the Douglas County Sheriff's Office,
- 23:37Speaker 1: but the Douglas County Sheriff's Office and the State Patrol.
- 23:40Speaker 1: has already been contacted about what is going on in
- 23:44Speaker 1: the old market.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Can we get the horses in there?
- 23:46Speaker 1: In the mounted patrol.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Mounted patrol? Can we get the horses in there? Because
- 23:49Speaker 2: I would love to hear them on the brick roads.
- 23:51Speaker 1: They're down there. I mean, they're down there already. But
- 23:54Speaker 1: here's the deal with the old market. I mean, number one,
- 23:59Speaker 1: what we see down there is– A lot more police officers,
- 24:04Speaker 1: for example. They do have their own private security that
- 24:10Speaker 1: are dedicated to the Old Market area that is hired
- 24:14Speaker 1: by the Downtown Improvement District and the Old Market Association.
- 24:19Speaker 1: I'm going to try to have Billy Colburn on. I've
- 24:22Speaker 1: got a message out to him. He's president of the
- 24:24Speaker 1: Old Market Association. But there are multiple high-volume bars in
- 24:29Speaker 1: that area, about 13th and Howard. they are getting more
- 24:33Speaker 1: presence of law enforcement down there, whether it's OPD, whether
- 24:37Speaker 1: it's their private security, whether it's the sheriff's department, and
- 24:41Speaker 1: also the state patrol in that area. There's also an
- 24:45Speaker 1: increased use of cameras, drones in that area too. But
- 24:48Speaker 1: here's one thing people bring up a lot, and they
- 24:51Speaker 1: will say, why don't you, city of Omaha, have a
- 24:54Speaker 1: curfew down in the old market? And that comes with
- 24:59Speaker 1: a real challenge because basically... Then you're running up against
- 25:03Speaker 1: the Constitution. And what the Constitution would say is that
- 25:08Speaker 1: you can't have a curfew in one place in Omaha.
- 25:12Speaker 1: And here's how you do a curfew. A mayor can
- 25:16Speaker 1: do an emergency curfew, but it would only last for
- 25:19Speaker 1: I believe it's three days, and then it has to
- 25:21Speaker 1: go to a city council office. for an approval. I
- 25:26Speaker 1: issued a curfew, and that was the first time it
- 25:28Speaker 1: had been in about 30 years when we were having
- 25:31Speaker 1: the riots in Omaha back in the summer of 2020.
- 25:36Speaker 1: If you would try to do just a certain area downtown,
- 25:42Speaker 1: which you would call the old market, I think, like
- 25:45Speaker 1: I said, the Constitution would come into play and such
- 25:48Speaker 1: a law would, if it would survive a challenge or not,
- 25:51Speaker 1: I don't know. Because it would be very difficult to
- 25:54Speaker 1: define what the old market is. And inevitably, people would
- 25:58Speaker 1: congregate then in an area that was not old. determined
- 26:03Speaker 1: to be in that, that area that we defined as
- 26:07Speaker 1: where the curfew is. You might get, you might then,
- 26:09Speaker 1: then you could say in the old market, well, this
- 26:12Speaker 1: side of the street, there's a curfew on that side
- 26:14Speaker 1: of the street. There isn't a curfew. So I'm going
- 26:16Speaker 1: to go over on the side that doesn't have a curfew.
- 26:19Speaker 1: So it gets, that's why it gets very difficult to
- 26:22Speaker 1: have a curfew just in one distinct area. And that's
- 26:25Speaker 1: why it has not been done. And so that, that,
- 26:29Speaker 1: People will always say that. They said that about, you know,
- 26:32Speaker 1: the Riverfront Parks when they first opened. And there was
- 26:35Speaker 1: some of the little, we call them gang wannabes down there,
- 26:37Speaker 1: the 13, 14-year-olds that would come in big groups and
- 26:40Speaker 1: walk around and try to frighten people. Well, why don't
- 26:43Speaker 1: you say there's a curfew in the Riverfront Parks? You really, again,
- 26:47Speaker 1: that would not survive a constitutional challenge, a lawsuit against
- 26:51Speaker 1: the city. And like I said, that area that is
- 26:54Speaker 1: designated as the area of a curfew, you just go
- 26:56Speaker 1: across the street to the.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Area that's not. Well, not on a boo-boo. You can't
- 26:59Speaker 2: get me.
- 27:00Speaker 1: That's right. That's exactly what they would do. But there
- 27:04Speaker 1: is another thing that they are working on, and I
- 27:07Speaker 1: think the Old Market Association are working with the City
- 27:11Speaker 1: Council Law Committee on, to try to coordinate efforts to
- 27:15Speaker 1: track tavern reports. And tavern reports are when a specific
- 27:20Speaker 1: bar or tavern does not follow the law and citations
- 27:25Speaker 1: are issued by the police department or the sheriff's department
- 27:28Speaker 1: to that specific bar. And when you get so many
- 27:31Speaker 1: tavern reports, then the city council could look at what
- 27:34Speaker 1: they could do as far as maybe they could even
- 27:37Speaker 1: shut that bar down. And so I think what the
- 27:40Speaker 1: Old Market Business Association wants to do is work with
- 27:45Speaker 1: the City Council Law Committee and really keep track and
- 27:48Speaker 1: coordinate the effort of tracking multiple tavern reports at certain
- 27:52Speaker 1: bars in that area because each situation needs to be
- 27:57Speaker 1: dealt with differently according to what specific citations were issued
- 28:02Speaker 1: on that area. Like one of them could be they
- 28:05Speaker 1: stayed open until 3 a.m. instead of closing at 2 a.m.,
- 28:08Speaker 1: like the law says. That they're not controlling the crowd,
- 28:12Speaker 1: that they need better crowd control, that they're serving to minors.
- 28:16Speaker 1: Whatever that citation was issued for, they need to be
- 28:19Speaker 1: handled differently. But multiple citations for one bar creates multiple
- 28:25Speaker 1: tavern reports, and then that could go to the city council,
- 28:28Speaker 1: and the city council could make a decision differently. what
- 28:31Speaker 1: to do with that establishment there. So I think that
- 28:35Speaker 1: these things, they're all working. There's a lot going on
- 28:38Speaker 1: down there, but there's also a lot being done down there.
- 28:43Speaker 1: And then the other thing is, I think that what
- 28:46Speaker 1: the old market wants is that the residents down there,
- 28:50Speaker 1: there is a lot of residents, which they would refer
- 28:53Speaker 1: to as our neighbors, a lot of residents in the
- 28:56Speaker 1: old market area, and they need to be assured that
- 29:00Speaker 1: they are safe down there. and that the security and
- 29:03Speaker 1: the police we are using are to be their eyes,
- 29:06Speaker 1: to watch out for their safety, that the perpetrators of
- 29:09Speaker 1: violence that are going down there, that are going to
- 29:11Speaker 1: go down there, that are thinking that they're going to
- 29:14Speaker 1: cause some problem, then they need to see this extra
- 29:17Speaker 1: law enforcement as a watchdog. We're watching you. And you
- 29:21Speaker 1: better not come down here or there will be consequences. So,
- 29:25Speaker 1: you know, these things have happened in the old market before.
- 29:29Speaker 1: But it seems like that we are hearing more and
- 29:31Speaker 1: more this incident that happened early Sunday morning. One person
- 29:36Speaker 1: was shot in the leg. But again, that means there
- 29:39Speaker 1: was gunfire. into a crowd and it could just as
- 29:42Speaker 1: easily hit somebody in the head as it could their leg.
- 29:45Speaker 1: So then you're talking some real issues.
- 29:48Speaker 2: This is a great topic that we will absolutely bring
- 29:50Speaker 2: up with our host or excuse me, our guest tomorrow.
- 29:54Speaker 2: And on a similar note, Jean, I got a call
- 29:57Speaker 2: from Patrick. that was asking, why does the city not
- 30:02Speaker 2: pull over untagged cars, cars with no license plates, paper
- 30:06Speaker 2: tags that are expired, expired regular tags? And his frustration was,
- 30:11Speaker 2: you know, I pay the wheel tax, and I'm paying
- 30:14Speaker 2: for my tags and my plates and my registration. What's
- 30:16Speaker 2: going on with this, and why isn't the city pulling
- 30:18Speaker 2: over untagged? cars.
- 30:19Speaker 1: They do, but it is frustrating because if they see them,
- 30:23Speaker 1: they do. But they do not have enough, they do
- 30:26Speaker 1: not have the amount of officers in traffic that they
- 30:30Speaker 1: used to because we are still down our number of officers,
- 30:33Speaker 1: about 90 down, and we are not going to be
- 30:35Speaker 1: up to full budgeted strength by the end of the year.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Patrick Dempsey is going to be on the show, and
- 30:42Speaker 1: he is the president of the Omaha Police Officers Association,
- 30:46Speaker 1: their union. And there's a lot of stuff that we're
- 30:49Speaker 1: going to talk about with Pat Dempsey tomorrow. But this
- 30:52Speaker 1: is one of them, and I'll bring this up tomorrow
- 30:54Speaker 1: with him. Because, you know, when they don't have a
- 30:57Speaker 1: lot of officers out there on traffic that are out
- 30:59Speaker 1: there really monitoring these things— because the number is still down,
- 31:04Speaker 1: then these things slip through the cracks. And, you know,
- 31:07Speaker 1: we used to have officers that would actually go through
- 31:10Speaker 1: parking lots of apartment buildings looking for cars that aren't
- 31:15Speaker 1: tagged properly. And they were looking for them. And they just,
- 31:19Speaker 1: they don't have the amount of officers to do that anymore.
- 31:22Speaker 1: And so that's really the issue.
- 31:25Speaker 2: I see things like this from Patrick with the untagged cars,
- 31:28Speaker 2: and I think to myself, well, that's a genuine concern,
- 31:30Speaker 2: and I understand that thought process. But then you also
- 31:33Speaker 2: have people on the other side. You hear about a
- 31:35Speaker 2: police officer driving through apartment building parking lots or grocery
- 31:41Speaker 2: store parking lots looking specifically for untagged or expired tags.
- 31:46Speaker 2: And other people would say, is that really, really what
- 31:49Speaker 2: we want our police officers doing?
- 31:51Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 31:51Speaker 2: A task like that?
- 31:52Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 31:53Speaker 2: You know, go fight some crime. That's what people love
- 31:55Speaker 2: to say. Go out and fight some crime. Fight some
- 31:57Speaker 2: bad guys. But instead you're looking for tags in parking lots.
- 32:00Speaker 1: But that's exactly why that it's not being monitored like
- 32:04Speaker 1: it used to is because until we're fully at full strength,
- 32:10Speaker 1: And these are a lot of the chiefs and the
- 32:11Speaker 1: deputy chiefs' decision so that when we are down the
- 32:15Speaker 1: numbers of officers, we do everything we can to work
- 32:18Speaker 1: more efficiently and focus on those things about fighting crime, basically.
- 32:24Speaker 1: But it is annoying to people to say, yep, I
- 32:26Speaker 1: pay that wheel tax and I register my car every
- 32:29Speaker 1: year and I get my tags on my license. Why
- 32:31Speaker 1: does this guy get by with it? Well, unfortunately, it's
- 32:35Speaker 1: because he's not getting caught.
- 32:36Speaker 4: Right.
- 32:37Speaker 1: And those things do happen. But hopefully, I would think
- 32:41Speaker 1: maybe by next year that we will be full strength.
- 32:44Speaker 1: But we're going to talk to Pat Dempsey about this tomorrow.
- 32:46Speaker 1: I think it'll be an interesting conversation because a lot
- 32:49Speaker 1: of changes have been made, a lot, that makes it
- 32:53Speaker 1: much more attractive for someone to apply or want to
- 32:56Speaker 1: be an Omaha police officer. We're going to talk about
- 32:58Speaker 1: that tomorrow. But why are we still down as much
- 33:01Speaker 1: as we are? Keep in mind, too, And I have
- 33:04Speaker 1: said this before, that they might have a ton of
- 33:08Speaker 1: applicants where we were down on just the number of applicants,
- 33:12Speaker 1: but they might not be the applicant that we want
- 33:15Speaker 1: to send through the police academy because And they do
- 33:18Speaker 1: an extensive background check on these folks that apply to
- 33:21Speaker 1: be police officers, because you would rather be down and
- 33:25Speaker 1: have a force of good police officers than to get
- 33:28Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them in that aren't suitable to
- 33:31Speaker 1: be in law enforcement. And that's what we don't want.
- 33:36Speaker 2: Quick question on the streetcar here, Gene. Jeremy sent a
- 33:40Speaker 2: message and says, is there going to be any new
- 33:43Speaker 2: streetcar traffic laws after the streetcar is finished, after Oscar
- 33:47Speaker 2: is up and running, any new traffic laws in and
- 33:50Speaker 2: around the streetcar?
- 33:51Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be any new laws specifically because
- 33:57Speaker 1: of the streetcar. Obviously, the streetcar runs with the traffic
- 34:00Speaker 1: and the rails are in, got to be on Farnham
- 34:03Speaker 1: and Harney where there will be traffic moving along. Um,
- 34:07Speaker 1: You know, I think we might be also looking at
- 34:10Speaker 1: what other cities, again, have done and been successful in doing.
- 34:14Speaker 1: You know, if there's going to be laws about driving
- 34:18Speaker 1: the car in front of the streetcar, behind the streetcar,
- 34:21Speaker 1: too close to the streetcar, where people get off the
- 34:24Speaker 1: streetcar and unload. And I think they're going to be
- 34:26Speaker 1: looking at all of that before it's up and running.
- 34:29Speaker 2: Real quick here, too, Jean. Chris Baker brought this up
- 34:31Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon after we were talking about Oscar in the streetcar.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Is there going to be any tone on the streetcar?
- 34:39Speaker 2: There's been some events where streetcars can hit pedestrians and
- 34:44Speaker 2: stuff like that due to the pedestrian's lack of attention.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Right.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Or the streetcar, if it's electric and it's on the rails,
- 34:51Speaker 2: it could be kind of quiet.
- 34:53Speaker 1: They are quiet. And their run, this streetcar in Omaha
- 34:56Speaker 1: is going to run by two different ways, battery and electricity.
- 35:01Speaker 1: And it's very quiet.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Right. It's like the Prius in the parking lot in
- 35:05Speaker 2: the grocery store, and it almost sounds like a spaceship
- 35:07Speaker 2: is hovering by.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Exactly. And now, we did not talk about that when
- 35:13Speaker 1: I was still in office. We did not talk about
- 35:15Speaker 1: adding a tone or a sound to it. But that
- 35:17Speaker 1: is something that other cities have done. And so, you know,
- 35:21Speaker 1: people crossing the street, they are very, very quiet. And
- 35:24Speaker 1: some people also that are hard of hearing. I mean,
- 35:27Speaker 1: they have a real problem with that. So, That is
- 35:30Speaker 1: something that I'm sure that they will look into. But
- 35:33Speaker 1: as the streetcar is up and running, and before it's
- 35:36Speaker 1: up and running, I think all of these things will
- 35:39Speaker 1: be looked at, looking at what other cities have done
- 35:42Speaker 1: successfully and not successfully. For example, in Kansas City, they
- 35:46Speaker 1: had a problem, and that's our nearest neighbor with a
- 35:49Speaker 1: very successful streetcar that they're adding onto it now, but
- 35:52Speaker 1: they would get homeless people that would, especially in the winter,
- 35:56Speaker 1: And they would get on the streetcar and basically live
- 35:58Speaker 1: on it all day long. And so they came up
- 36:01Speaker 1: with the rule that once you make one complete loop,
- 36:04Speaker 1: everybody has to get off. And so it was a
- 36:07Speaker 1: simple solution to a problem that maybe you wouldn't think
- 36:11Speaker 1: about it until it actually happened.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Gene Stothert in the KFAB comment line. My name is
- 36:16Speaker 2: Peyton Highlock, 402-558-1110. Comment at kfab.com for your Questions, comments,
- 36:24Speaker 2: and concerns. Gene, I got a fun phone call for
- 36:27Speaker 2: you from Jake here in just a moment that we're
- 36:29Speaker 2: going to get to. But one quick thing that I
- 36:31Speaker 2: wanted to bring up that came through first at comment
- 36:35Speaker 2: at kfab.com was gasoline prices. Andrew says, I really wish
- 36:40Speaker 2: all of the KFAB crew would break people's thinking on gasoline.
- 36:46Speaker 2: Gas prices go up and down, and maybe even gas
- 36:50Speaker 2: stations can take advantage of it. But his one question is,
- 36:53Speaker 2: why are people filling up their gas tanks to the top?
- 36:56Speaker 2: With prices fluctuating so much, have a fixed dollar amount.
- 37:01Speaker 2: Put that in when you can and go from there.
- 37:05Speaker 2: That is the email from Andrew. Gene?
- 37:08Speaker 1: I understand his point, but it depends on what you're doing.
- 37:11Speaker 1: If you're going to take off on a road trip
- 37:13Speaker 1: and drive to Kansas City, you might want to fill
- 37:15Speaker 1: up your tank. But keep in mind that during the
- 37:20Speaker 1: Biden administration, gas prices were up to $ 6 a gallon
- 37:25Speaker 1: and inflation was 9%. And so to his point, yes,
- 37:29Speaker 1: they do fluctuate. They do go up and down. And
- 37:32Speaker 1: hopefully we're going to see them going south sometime soon.
- 37:35Speaker 1: But there's, I think... people, there's little understanding about how
- 37:40Speaker 1: gas prices are actually determined. And I think right now
- 37:43Speaker 1: people are just, they just want to, you know, wipe
- 37:46Speaker 1: their hands and say, it's because of Donald Trump. It's
- 37:48Speaker 1: because of him. That's why it's that way. Well, they
- 37:50Speaker 1: were up higher during the Biden administration too. And so,
- 37:54Speaker 1: you know, it's just the way gas prices are determined
- 37:57Speaker 1: and hopefully they will go down. But at the end
- 38:00Speaker 1: of the day, golly, I mean, you got to, if
- 38:03Speaker 1: you're driving a car and you want to get around,
- 38:05Speaker 1: you've got to pay for it. And you just don't
- 38:08Speaker 1: have a choice. I clinch when I have to fill
- 38:10Speaker 1: my tank up, too.
- 38:11Speaker 2: I have that same sentiment. I guess it doesn't really
- 38:14Speaker 2: matter what the price is. I'm still going to have
- 38:16Speaker 2: to swing through and fill up.
- 38:17Speaker 1: That's right.
- 38:18Speaker 2: But that's just how it goes. We'll continue to talk
- 38:20Speaker 2: about that as well. Jake, on the phone lines here, 402-558-1110.
- 38:25Speaker 2: You are live with Gene Stothert.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 38:28Speaker 3: Hi, Gene.
- 38:29Speaker 4: Good morning.
- 38:30Speaker 3: So I like I have some some people that I
- 38:33Speaker 3: know who are very like intelligent people that I would
- 38:37Speaker 3: consider that always call you always call you mean gene.
- 38:42Speaker 3: And every experience that I've had going to like what
- 38:47Speaker 3: you've done for the city. And I had a cousin
- 38:50Speaker 3: who was like a regular server for you. And like
- 38:55Speaker 3: you always tipped really well. And like I've literally heard
- 38:58Speaker 3: nothing about you. that would say that you're mean. And
- 39:02Speaker 3: so like, and the fact that like you lived in St. Louis,
- 39:05Speaker 3: like you said multiple times, like you didn't and like, how,
- 39:10Speaker 3: how does that happen?
- 39:11Speaker 1: You know, well, number one, thank you. Number two, I've
- 39:14Speaker 1: been called a lot worse than Mean Gene. So I said,
- 39:16Speaker 1: I'll own that. That's okay with me. But, you know,
- 39:20Speaker 1: I think people love name calling. I mean, it rhymes.
- 39:24Speaker 1: So they love to call me Mean Gene. It's just
- 39:27Speaker 1: like now they think it's hilarious that they're calling Brinker Harding.
- 39:30Speaker 1: stinker instead of Brinker. I mean, they think this is
- 39:33Speaker 1: so funny that they come up with these things. But no,
- 39:36Speaker 1: I said, you know, you want to call me Mean Gene,
- 39:38Speaker 1: call me Mean Gene. I think that the thing with that,
- 39:41Speaker 1: it had a lot to do with my gender and
- 39:44Speaker 1: being a female. You know, I've said many times when
- 39:48Speaker 1: a man is strong and makes decisions, he's a strong,
- 39:52Speaker 1: courageous leader. But when a woman is that way, she's
- 39:54Speaker 1: mean or she's, there's other words they call mean. a woman,
- 39:57Speaker 1: when she has a powerful position too. So people just like,
- 40:02Speaker 1: I don't know, they like name calling. But like I said,
- 40:04Speaker 1: I've been called a lot worse than Mean Gene. The
- 40:06Speaker 1: whole St. Louis thing is just, it's absurd. It started
- 40:10Speaker 1: out on liberal social media. You know, my mom lived
- 40:14Speaker 1: in the St. Louis area. And back in 2020, I
- 40:17Speaker 1: was going back to the St. Louis area. She actually
- 40:21Speaker 1: lived in Illinois, in Wood River, Illinois. helping her a
- 40:24Speaker 1: lot to move from the house I grew up in
- 40:26Speaker 1: into assisted living. And all of a sudden on social
- 40:29Speaker 1: media that, well, where is she? Why she's not in office? Well,
- 40:34Speaker 1: she's in St.
- 40:34Speaker 4: Louis.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Well, she lives there then. And they're just, they insist
- 40:38Speaker 1: that I live in St.
- 40:39Speaker 3: Louis.
- 40:39Speaker 1: And you know, I have lived in St. Louis less
- 40:41Speaker 1: than 10 years of my entire life. I moved there
- 40:45Speaker 1: after I got out of nursing school because my first
- 40:48Speaker 1: job was at St. Louis University and I wanted to
- 40:50Speaker 1: live close to there, to the hospital. And lived there
- 40:53Speaker 1: less than 10 years. But people are insisting that I
- 40:56Speaker 1: live in St.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Louis.
- 40:57Speaker 1: And we've said on this show jokingly before, let's just
- 41:00Speaker 1: go with it. We'll just say I live in St.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Louis and I drive here every morning and drive back
- 41:05Speaker 1: every night. But it's so easy to prove that they're
- 41:08Speaker 1: wrong because I've lived in this same house in Omaha
- 41:11Speaker 1: for the last 33 years. I pay taxes here. They
- 41:14Speaker 1: could look up public records. I don't own property or
- 41:17Speaker 1: pay taxes anywhere else. But I was at Hy-Vee. I
- 41:21Speaker 1: go to the one at 178th and Pacific all the time.
- 41:23Speaker 1: I love that store. This weekend, and some guy came
- 41:26Speaker 1: up to me and said, oh. are you here for
- 41:29Speaker 1: the weekend? Are you here from St.
- 41:31Speaker 3: Louis?
- 41:31Speaker 1: And I just wanted to slug the guy. I went,
- 41:33Speaker 1: why do you say that? Finally, I thought.
- 41:35Speaker 2: That's kind of mean.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Oh, I know. And so I mean, I was mean
- 41:38Speaker 1: Jean to him. And I said, why do you say that?
- 41:40Speaker 1: And he goes, well, I just heard you lived in St.
- 41:42Speaker 4: Louis.
- 41:43Speaker 1: No, I don't. And so it's just, I think people
- 41:46Speaker 1: like name calling and they think it's funny.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Scroll through a political candidate's social media page. whether you
- 41:55Speaker 2: are for that candidate or not, and just go through
- 41:57Speaker 2: and look at some of the names. If you're in
- 41:58Speaker 2: a bad mood, scroll through a political candidate comment section,
- 42:02Speaker 2: and you'll have a laugh. Yes.
- 42:03Speaker 1: I mean, look at Brinker Harding. Stinker Farting. Stinker Farting
- 42:07Speaker 1: is what they call him, and they think that's really funny.
- 42:10Speaker 1: And you know what? I don't think I've ever worked
- 42:13Speaker 1: with a man that was more honest and more of
- 42:16Speaker 1: an independent thinker than Brinker Harding. I mean, he didn't
- 42:19Speaker 1: always agree with me. And so for everybody to say, oh, yes,
- 42:23Speaker 1: he will do whatever Donald Trump tells him to do.
- 42:24Speaker 1: What do you see into the future? No, he won't.
- 42:27Speaker 1: You know, he will he will represent you. And that's
- 42:30Speaker 1: what I saw him do on the city council, too.
- 42:32Speaker 1: But you know what, Peyton? Golly, that is it for
- 42:35Speaker 1: us today. We are so glad that you have been
- 42:39Speaker 1: spending this hour with us. Tomorrow, Pat Dempsey, the president
- 42:42Speaker 1: of Omaha Police Officers Association, will be with me in
- 42:45Speaker 1: the studio. So I hope you all have a great day.
- 42:48Speaker 1: Love to see you with us tomorrow. I'm Jean Stothert.
- 42:51Speaker 1: This is 1110 KFAB.