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- 0:00My phone started buzzing Thursday morning before I even had my tea, text messages, dms, emails, all the same version of one thing.
- 0:10Corinne, did you see this?
- 0:12So I started clicking and here's what I found.
- 0:16The BBC designer dog owners report more problem behaviors, vets sworn.
- 0:23Smithsonian Magazine.
- 0:25Contrary to popular belief, some doodle crossbred dogs may have more behavioral problems than their pure bred parents.
- 0:32The guardian crossbred dogs show more behavioral problems than pure breed.
- 0:36Studies suggest whales online dog breeds worse.
- 0:41For owner aggression, a study finds problems.
- 0:44And then this one, which I have to be honest, made me laugh A little newser scientist eye, a problem with trendy doodle dogs.
- 0:54Trendy if you have a doodle, you know there's nothing trendy about trying to host a dinner party with your doodle around.
- 1:04I read every one of those articles and then I did something most of those journalists did not do.
- 1:11I found the actual study.
- 1:12All 24 pages of it.
- 1:14Published March 19th, 2026 in a peer review journal called PLOS one out of the Royal Veterinary College in the uk.
- 1:24And then I went back and read the companion study they published in 2024 on the same dogs.
- 1:30Because here's what I wanna tell you before we go any further, what those headlines said the study found and what this study actually found are two different things.
- 1:42And today we're going to talk about all of it, the real findings, the things the media missed entirely, what it means for your dog, and most importantly, what you can actually do with this information.
- 1:57Starting today.
- 1:59I'm Corinne Gearhart founder of the Doodle Pro and your host.
- 2:03This is episode 93 of the Doodle Pro Podcast.
- 2:07Let's get into it.
- 2:08Before we dig into the findings, I wanna give you some important context because understanding what this study is and what it is not is going to change how you hear everything that comes after This study was conducted by researchers at the Royal Veterinary College in London.
- 2:26It's surveyed owners of 9,402 dogs.
- 2:30In the United Kingdom using a validated behavioral assessment tool called the Sea Bark, that stands for the Canine Behavioral Assessment and Research Questionnaire.
- 2:40It measures 12 different behavioral categories, including trainability, excitability, fear, anxiety, aggression, and separation related problems.
- 2:51The study compared three different designer cross breeds against their purebred parent breeds Cockapoos, which are a cocker spaniel crossed with a poodle, labradoodles, which are a Labrador retriever crossed with a poodle and CAOs, which are a Cavalier King Charles spaniel crossed with a poodle.
- 3:13I wanna stop right there because I need to say something directly to a lot of you.
- 3:19If your dog is a golden doodle, a bernadoodle, a sheep, a doodle, an Aussie dole, a schnoodle, a multi poo, or any other doodle cross that's not on this list.
- 3:31This study was not about your dog.
- 3:34The researchers themselves clearly say in the paper that results should not be extrapolated to designer cross breeds that were not studied.
- 3:43Each cross breed needs its own evidence base.
- 3:47Every headline that said doodles as a blanket category was overstating what the data actually showed.
- 3:54I also want to say a specific hello to all of our listeners in the UK because I know a lot of you found this episode through the BBC coverage or the Guardian welcome.
- 4:06This is your national story and I want to give you the full picture that the headlines didn't.
- 4:13Everything we cover today applies directly to you too.
- 4:18Now the second thing you need to know about this study was there was a companion study published by the same research group in 2024 that looked at the physical health of these same three cross breeds, same dogs, essentially, same research team.
- 4:34Same methods.
- 4:36That study found no significant health difference in 86.6% of comparisons between the cross breeds and their pure bred parents that did not get the same headlines, probably because doodles are basically fine, health-wise, is less clickable than the alternative.
- 4:55But it matters enormously for what comes next.
- 5:00One more thing before we get into the findings.
- 5:03I want to be transparent with you about the nature of this data.
- 5:07This study measured what owners reported about their dog's behavior, not what a behaviorist or a vet directly observed.
- 5:17The researchers used a validated and rigorous tool.
- 5:20And they're controlled for many confounding factors, but the data still flows through owner perception.
- 5:28The researchers themselves acknowledge this.
- 5:31I am telling you this because I think you deserve to understand the full picture of what this research is and what it is not.
- 5:40That does not make the findings invalid.
- 5:42It makes them a starting point for a more nuanced conversation, which is exactly what we are having today.
- 5:49Before we get into the numbers, I want to address something about the headlines themselves, because several of them use specific language that I think created a false picture of what this research actually is.
- 6:03The BBC headline said.
- 6:05Vets warn other headlines, say, vets say that language implies something very specific.
- 6:12It conjures an image of veterinarians sitting in their clinic, seeing a surge of doodle behavior problems walking through their doors bite injuries, behavioral euthanasia cases, clinical records showing a crisis.
- 6:27That is not this study.
- 6:29This study is owners filling out a questionnaire about their perception of their dog's behavior.
- 6:36. The Royal Veterinary College conducted and published the research, which is where the word vets comes from in the headlines.
- 6:43But the RVC is a world class research institution.
- 6:47This is not a clinical report.
- 6:50There are no bite statistics in this study.
- 6:52No behavioral euthanasia data.
- 6:55No vet visit records, no direct observation of any of the 9,402 dogs, the researchers.
- 7:04Never met those dogs.
- 7:05They analyzed what the owners said about their dogs.
- 7:09That is owner reported survey data analyzed by veterinary researchers, and that's a meaningful distinction.
- 7:16I am not saying this to dismiss the study.
- 7:20The methodology is rigorous.
- 7:22The tool they used is validated and they controlled for many confounding factors, this report is not saying that your doodles vet is seeing a sudden clinical surge in behavior problems.
- 7:35If you walk into your vet's office next week and ask about this study, they're reading the same headlines you.
- 7:41But what bets experience with our doodles is a complete other topic that we cover on other episodes.
- 7:48The data in this report is about owner perception, not clinical presentation.
- 7:54Understanding that changes how you should sit with these findings.
- 7:59Okay, the big scary number, let's talk about it.
- 8:03The headlines led with this designer.
- 8:06Crossbreeds overall showed more undesirable behaviors than their parent breeds in 44.4% of comparisons.
- 8:14That sounds alarming until you look at which cross Breeded was driving that number.
- 8:19Cockapoos differed from their parent breeds in 16 out of 24 behavioral comparisons, and they scored worse.
- 8:27And all 16.
- 8:29That is a significant finding.
- 8:31Cockapoos showed noticeably more aggression, more fear, more excitability, and more separation related problems than both Cocker Spaniels and poodles.
- 8:42Cavapoos differed from their parent breeds in 12 out of 24 comparisons and scored worse in 11 of them.
- 8:49And then there are labradoodles.
- 8:52Labradoodles differed from their parent breeds in 11 out of 24 comparisons.
- 8:57But here's where it gets interesting.
- 9:00The labradoodles scored worse than their parent breeds in only five of the comparisons, and they scored better than their parent breeds in six better.
- 9:11When compared specifically to poodles, Labradoodles showed less owner directed aggression, less dog directed aggression, less dog rivalry, less stranger directed fear, less dog directed fear, and fewer separation related problems.
- 9:29The Labradoodle was the only cross breeded in the entire study to score better than its parent breeds on multiple behavioral measures.
- 9:38That is not a headline that ran.
- 9:41Anywhere.
- 9:43Now I wanna tell you something else that almost no one reported, something buried in table One of the study that changes everything about how you interpret the Labradoodle findings.
- 9:55Most of the cockapoos and Cavapoos in the study were first generation crosses about 60% each were F1, meaning their parents were one purebred and one purebred.
- 10:07Less than 1% were multi-generational.
- 10:10The labradoodles were dramatically different.
- 10:13Only 33.8% were F1 and 22.6% were multi-generational, meaning multiple generations of breeders had been intentionally.
- 10:23Selecting for behavioral traits and health.
- 10:26The researchers note this themselves as a possible explanation for why labradoodles performed better.
- 10:32The Labradoodle breeding community has had decades more time to intentionally select towards healthier.
- 10:40Calmer and more stable temperaments.
- 10:43So when you see the Labradoodle results, you're not just seeing a genetic comparison.
- 10:48You are seeing the result of intentional, ethical, multi-generational breeding work.
- 10:54That distinction matters enormously.
- 10:59Now, let me tell you the most counterintuitive finding in the entire study, the one I haven't seen covered anywhere.
- 11:07The study found that owners of pure bred Labrador retrievers and Cocker spaniels were significantly more likely to use aversive training methods compared to Labradoodle, cockapoo and kaaboo owners almost twice as likely in some comparisons.
- 11:24And the pure bred scored better on trainability.
- 11:28Most headlines would read that as old school training works better, but the research themselves say something very different.
- 11:36They flag explicitly that the better trainability scores in the pure bred gun dog breeds may reflect what they call forced suppression of disobedient behaviors.
- 11:47A dog who has had behavior corrected out of them through punishment can look compliant, can look less anxious, but that is not the same as a dog who is at ease or has genuinely learned.
- 12:03The researchers go further.
- 12:05They cite multiple peer reviewed studies showing aversive training, harms dog welfare, and damages the human dog relationship.
- 12:14And they conclude that doodle owners should absolutely not interpret the trainability findings as a reason to use harsher methods.
- 12:23Doodle parents are already leaning towards positive reinforcement.
- 12:27This study suggests that that inclination is the right path.
- 12:33I want to be honest with you here because I am not here to tell you everything's fine and the researchers are wrong.
- 12:40The study is right about some things, and those things deserve your full attention.
- 12:46All three cross breeds showed significantly more non-social fear than their non poodle parent.
- 12:53Non-social fear means fear of inanimate things, traffic loud noises, garbage cans on their walk, novel environments, unexpected objects.
- 13:04All three showed more separation related problems vocalizing destructive behavior distress when left alone.
- 13:12All three showed more excitability, strong reactions to arousing events like walks, visitors, doorbells, car trips.
- 13:20I have seen these same patterns across thousands of doodle families.
- 13:25They are real, they are consistent, and they're the real reason I do this work.
- 13:30But here's the context.
- 13:32The headline stripped away entirely.
- 13:35Almost 50% of doodle parents in the study were first time dog parents.
- 13:40Compare that to 33.7% of pure bred parents.
- 13:45And doodle parents were significantly less likely to work in the canine or animal care sector, only 4.9% compared to 12.9%.
- 13:56So if you have dogs bred for high engagement and high intelligence, increasingly owned by people who have never navigated a dog before with less access to professional guidance and more likely to be relying on social media and advice from friends.
- 14:14That's not a breed character flaw.
- 14:17That's a support gap and maybe an expectations gap.
- 14:22Now here's the piece.
- 14:23Nobody covered.
- 14:24And I think it might be the most practically useful thing in this entire study.
- 14:29The single biggest factor associated with behavioral scores across all comparisons was health disorder prevalence.
- 14:38And the companion 2024 study already told us that doodles are more prone to ear infections and skin conditions like atopic dermatitis than their parent breeds.
- 14:49Here's why that matters.
- 14:51There is peer reviewed research showing that chronic skin conditions and ear infections are directly associated with higher excitability, reduced trainability anxiety and fear-driven behavior.
- 15:04In dogs, a dog who is itchy, uncomfortable, or in low grade chronic pain behaves differently.
- 15:14Their nervous system is already running hot before training even begins.
- 15:19So before you change your training approach based on this study, I want you to ask yourself something.
- 15:25When did your doodle last?
- 15:27Have their ears checked?
- 15:28Have they been licking their paws?
- 15:30Has their skin been assessed?
- 15:32Because some of what this study documented may not primarily be a training issue.
- 15:37It may be a health issue that's showing up as behavior.
- 15:42That's a vet conversation, and that is worth having.
- 15:46The study also found something important about where doodles came from.
- 15:51Doodle parents were significantly less likely to have seen their puppy with its mother on the day of collection, and not seeing the mother was directly associated with worse behavioral outcomes, including lower trainability.
- 16:06More aggression and more separation problems.
- 16:09This is a sourcing issue being mistaken for a breed issue.
- 16:15Dogs from lower welfare sources, including puppies who could not be seen with their mother, show worse behavioral outcomes over time.
- 16:24The breeding quality matters where your dog comes from.
- 16:29Matters.
- 16:31This is part of why ethical, intentional breeding with health testing and temperament selection produces better outcomes.
- 16:39That's not a marketing claim.
- 16:42It's what this research shows.
- 16:46I want to talk about training directly now because I think some of you may have read those headlines and thought maybe I need to be firmer.
- 16:54Maybe I'm being too soft.
- 16:56Maybe treats aren't enough.
- 16:58Wow, I understand that instinct, and I want to be gentle here because a lot of us were taught things about dog training that we now know the science doesn't support alpha rolls.
- 17:12Dominance theory, the idea that your dog's trying to be the boss and you need to put them in their place.
- 17:19Many people were taught this in good faith.
- 17:23It was presented as the way dogs work.
- 17:27But the research is clear.
- 17:29Aversive training methods, the physical corrections, the dominance based techniques, these approaches create stress.
- 17:38They suppress behavior without teaching the dog anything about what to do, and they can damage the relationship.
- 17:45You have worked so hard to build.
- 17:49The study itself confirms this.
- 17:52The dogs in this study who came from owners using aversive methods looked more trainable on paper, but the researchers flag, this may be behavioral suppression, not genuine learning.
- 18:06You don't want a dog who's quiet because they've learned to be afraid.
- 18:11You want a dog who's calm because they've learned to regulate themselves.
- 18:17Because they feel safe.
- 18:19Those are two completely different things.
- 18:23Positive reinforcement is the right approach.
- 18:26The science on this is not ambiguous.
- 18:28It's not only more humane, it's more effective.
- 18:33It builds trust.
- 18:34It creates dogs who want to work with you because working with you feels good.
- 18:40So why are so many doodle parents using positive reinforcement and feeling stuck?
- 18:45This is the thing I want you to hear.
- 18:47Positive reinforcement is the method for doodles.
- 18:51It also has to be a system, a treat, and a clicker will teach your doodles.
- 18:57Some very useful words.
- 18:58Sit down, come leave it.
- 19:01Those are valuable.
- 19:03They are not enough.
- 19:05On their own.
- 19:07Because doodles are bred for a level of engagement and intelligence, that means their brain is running fast and hot most of the time.
- 19:16They are not stubborn.
- 19:19They are switched on constantly.
- 19:22They are looking for things to engage with, respond to react, to be.
- 19:26Part of what that means is that a standard positive reinforcement class will teach your dog skills.
- 19:33But it won't teach your dog how to regulate their own arousal state.
- 19:38It will not teach them how to settle when everything around them is exciting.
- 19:43It will not build the emotional foundation that a high engagement dog needs to actually be calm.
- 19:51That gap between knowing the cues and being able to live calmly with your dog is where most doodle families are, and it is not your fault.
- 20:01You found the right method.
- 20:03You just need the complete system structure, sequence, doodle specific application, daily practice that builds emotional regulation over time, not just compliance upon command.
- 20:18That's the work and it is absolutely possible.
- 20:22I want to tell you something about my dog, Nestle before I close.
- 20:26Nestle is a Cava P, one of the three cross breeds studied in this paper, and I will tell you honestly, even with everything I know, even with 50,000 hours of working with these dogs, Nestle's tested me, the anxiety.
- 20:42The need to be near me constantly, the way unfamiliar environments can send his nervous system sideways.
- 20:51He's not a failure.
- 20:52He's not broken.
- 20:54He is a Cavapoo and he needs what every doodle needs.
- 20:59A patient science-based guardian who understands what his breed was built for and trains with that in mind.
- 21:08Not against it.
- 21:09I have never once regretted getting him.
- 21:13I have absolutely had moments where I wish someone had handed me a better manual, and that's the whole point of this work.
- 21:22Here's what I want to leave you with the study's right.
- 21:25Doodles are not plug and play dogs.
- 21:29They have become the default.
- 21:31First time purchase.
- 21:33The default first family dog.
- 21:36And nobody fully told you what that meant when you brought yours home.
- 21:41The coat, the anxiety, the ear infections, the energy that refuses to quit even after the long walk.
- 21:49Once that doorbell rings the way your dog seems to have their own agenda, most of the time, you're not doing it wrong.
- 21:57You're not failing.
- 21:59You just got a dog that an entire industry sold as easy.
- 22:04And the science is now confirming it was never that simple.
- 22:08And if you've ever felt overwhelmed, embarrassed, or quietly wondering whether you made a mistake, I need you to hear this.
- 22:17You are not alone, not even close.
- 22:20This study surveyed over 9,000 dogs and the people who love them, first time dog, parents, families, people who did everything right and still found themselves Googling, why won't my doodle calm down at 11 o'clock at night?
- 22:35That's exactly why I do this work.
- 22:38Not to tell you, your dog is broken.
- 22:41Not to pile on with another scary headline, but to be the resource that should have existed when you brought your doodle home, the one that tells you the truth and gives you something to do with it.
- 22:55If you're ready for that something, I want to invite you to join my free Doodle Parent challenge.
- 23:01It starts April 20th.
- 23:03It's only five days, and it's completely free and designed specifically for Doodle families who are done guessing and ready for the system that actually works.
- 23:14We're going to work on the exact behaviors this study documented, the excitability, the anxiety, the inability to settle.
- 23:24Even when you've done everything right, and we're going to do it using positive reinforcement in a structure that is built specifically for how doodle brains work.
- 23:35The link to register is in the show notes at thedoodlepro.com/ challenge.
- 23:43And if this episode resonated, will you share it with one doodle parent?
- 23:46You know, because the people reading those scary headlines this week.
- 23:51Deserve the full picture, and you just got it.
- 23:56Thank you so much for being here.
- 23:59Thank you so much for being here and for our UK listeners who found us this week.
- 24:03Welcome.
- 24:04I'm so glad you're here.
- 24:06I'm Corin Gearhart.
- 24:07This is the Doodle Pro podcast, and I can't wait to see you and your pup in the challenge.