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Choice vs. Ultra Violette, MCo Beauty Lawsuit & Big Changes to Afterpay · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: in life. And Welcome to another episode of News Arrivals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's do it?
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  Speaker 1: Use Arrivals number one. MC Beauty back in the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: after glow Recipes sues for copying. It continues, Saga continues,
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  Speaker 1: Saga continues. So glow Recipe is taking on MC Beauty,
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  Speaker 1: accusing in the Australian Beauty brand of trade dress infringement,
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  Speaker 1: false advertising and unfair competition in a new lawsuit in
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  Speaker 1: connection with its Hydrate and Glow Ultra jew serum, a
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  Speaker 1: product that glow Recipe claims is a deliberate copy of
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  Speaker 1: its best selling watermelon glow Niacinamide jew drops. So, according
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  Speaker 1: to the fashion law in the newly filed complaint, as
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  Speaker 1: first reported by TfL. Glow Recipe, which is known for
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  Speaker 1: its fruit infused skincare formulas, alleges that MCO Beauty designed, packaged, marketed,
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  Speaker 1: and sold a product that is confusingly similar to its
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  Speaker 1: jew drops, right down to the product's pink color scheme,
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  Speaker 1: spherical bottle shape, rectangular labeling, and the overall visual representation.
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  Speaker 1: The problem, according to glow Recipe, is that MCO Beauty
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  Speaker 1: has not only co opted the look of the bottle itself,
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  Speaker 1: but also employs nearly identical language and marketing tactics that
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  Speaker 1: are likely to confuse consumer. Now, this is not anything
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  Speaker 1: new to mc beauty strategy. Yeah, So, glow Recipe sets
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  Speaker 1: out claims of trade dress infringement, false advertising, and unfair competition,
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  Speaker 1: and is seeking injunction relief and monetary damages, asking the
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  Speaker 1: court to prohibit mc beauty from continuing to sell or
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  Speaker 1: market the allegedly infringing products, as well as to order
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  Speaker 1: the destruction of all infringing goods.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: We have seen a lot of brands call out MC
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  Speaker 1: beauty for their copying, and I do think at this
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  Speaker 1: point of their business, I think it has taken a
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  Speaker 1: step further than jeops. I'm not going to tell anyone
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  Speaker 1: how to spend their money. My thought on this is
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  Speaker 1: that duopes are going to exist. We're in a cost
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  Speaker 1: of living crisis, and there are certain products that it's
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  Speaker 1: like a duop of. It's a glowy foundation, and so
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  Speaker 1: the result is a jupe. That's how I look at jups.
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  Speaker 1: Like you could have the Georgio Rmani Luminus silk foundation, right,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a Laurel jupe. The bottle doesn't look the same,
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  Speaker 1: but the effect looks the same. That's a dupe to me.
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  Speaker 1: What I kind of think is ethically wrong with this
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  Speaker 1: model is the fact that the entire business is built
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  Speaker 1: off the testing and failure of other businesses, son down
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  Speaker 1: to the design. So let's take you know, glow recipe
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  Speaker 1: for example. They've launched multiple products. Some of them have
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  Speaker 1: been successful and gone viral, like the watermelon jew drops,
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  Speaker 1: some of them haven't. But then being able to sit
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  Speaker 1: as a company and just look at all the other
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  Speaker 1: businesses and be like, Okay, what worked well for everyone else,
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  Speaker 1: now let's just replicate it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of cherry pick the best, yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: release it under their own name.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where I have started to be like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this is super ethical, especially for the fact
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  Speaker 1: that these brands and businesses pay for the formulation and
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  Speaker 1: the graphic design and the design of the packaging. That
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  Speaker 1: then MC beauty doesn't have to absorb that cost of
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  Speaker 1: designing packaging.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well they don't have to go through you know,
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  Speaker 3: the rounds of feedback that it would have taken to
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  Speaker 3: get there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so glow Recipe is going for even more.
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  Speaker 1: The company is also requesting an accounting of m co
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  Speaker 1: Beauty's profits and treble damages for what it allegers is
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  Speaker 1: wilful and deliberate infringement. Glow Recipe argues that MC Beauty's
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  Speaker 1: activities have caused reputational and monetary harm and that unless
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  Speaker 1: the court intervenes, the infringement will continue. They also joined
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  Speaker 1: to other brands, Tart Cosmetics and Keem Corp, who have
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  Speaker 1: also sued MC beauty. In twenty twenty one, MC beauty
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  Speaker 1: was sued by Tark Cosmetics. Did you know this No? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So they were sued for allegedly copying its shape tape
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  Speaker 1: concealer packaging. Tart arguing that specifically the Chevron lid, like
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  Speaker 1: the zig Zaggy Purple was close enough to counterfeit and
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  Speaker 1: could confuse consumers, so they then changed the lid to
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  Speaker 1: have circle logos of m COO on there. So I
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  Speaker 1: am very interested to see what happens. Recently, Charlotte Hillbury
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  Speaker 1: was in Australia for a MECCA event and also in
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  Speaker 1: her speech was saying, you know, our products are unlike
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  Speaker 1: any other, any any other on the market.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And they did that whole campaign around it where
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  Speaker 3: they were doing like photo copies and it was like
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  Speaker 3: can't be drooped, can't be copy out or whatever as well.
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  Speaker 2: So they've like.
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  Speaker 3: Been vocal about their position on.
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  Speaker 2: It, like they're not ignoring it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think there is another side to this argument,
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  Speaker 1: that is, you know, for the side of dupes that
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  Speaker 1: you know, brands who have these products are charging such
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  Speaker 1: a high price when brands that are duping it are
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  Speaker 1: being able to replicate that formula at a lower cost
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  Speaker 1: value and bring that to the consumer. And I get
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  Speaker 1: that point one hundred percent, but I just personally wonder
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, how can you do that legally? Like
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  Speaker 1: you how do you get that formula? How do you
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  Speaker 1: make sure and again I don't think that we can
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  Speaker 1: say no, they this brand owns power grip primers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think having an entire business model based
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  Speaker 1: off of ripping concepts and ideas that are the most
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  Speaker 1: popular from brands that have tried and failed and absorbed
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  Speaker 1: that cost is ethical.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's all the way down to the marketing,
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  Speaker 1: all the way down to the marketing that I that
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  Speaker 1: I just kind of bit.
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  Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's definitely a tricky one and there's lots
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  Speaker 3: of nuance to it. Okay, So our next news arrivals
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  Speaker 3: is buy now pay Later services will now require a
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  Speaker 3: credit check in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Well, after ten long years wow.
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  Speaker 3: Of after pay launching in Australia in twenty fifteen, it's
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  Speaker 3: finally happening. This is something that has been in the
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  Speaker 3: conversation around by now pay Later since it began, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm almost surprised that it's taken this long this long.
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  Speaker 3: But from Tuesday the tenth of June, buy now pay
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  Speaker 3: Later products including after pay, Zip and Klana will be
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  Speaker 3: regulated in the same way as credit products. The new
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  Speaker 3: legislation requires buy now Pay Later providers to hold an
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  Speaker 3: Australian credit license, comply with existing credit laws regulated by ASEK,
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  Speaker 3: and establish a new category of low cost credit under
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  Speaker 3: the Credit Act. So they've made a whole new type
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  Speaker 3: of credit just later. Yeah, so new customers will now
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  Speaker 3: have to answer questions about their finances, including their income
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  Speaker 3: and expenses, and undergo a credit check, which will impact
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  Speaker 3: if and how much more they can borrow from buy
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  Speaker 3: now Pay later services.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So existing buy now pay later accounts apparently won't be
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  Speaker 3: required to undergo a credit check, but the use of
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  Speaker 3: the services may affect your credit score. Well, yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: now these services are being regulated like other credit products.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't pay your after pay, Yeah, missed or
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  Speaker 1: late payments will affect your credit score. It could affect
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  Speaker 1: your credit score. That's very scary.
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  Speaker 2: It is scary.
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  Speaker 1: It's scary, but it's good because I think the habit
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  Speaker 1: of using it is definitely not educated well enough. But
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  Speaker 1: what I think is scary is how many eighteen year
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  Speaker 1: olds the process of getting enough to pay account is
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  Speaker 1: very different and a lot easier to the process of
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  Speaker 1: getting a credit card. That I worry that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of young people won't understand the concept of a credit
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  Speaker 1: score and what miss late payments will mean and that
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  Speaker 1: such young people who potentially already have access Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: most eighteen year olds probably do have after pay already. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that the gravity of this maybe wouldn't hit them, and
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to end up twenty five thirty with
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  Speaker 1: a really bad credit score because the education around buy now,
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  Speaker 1: paid later services wasn't strong enough. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're not familiar with what a credit score is,
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  Speaker 3: it's essentially a reflection of your financial history and it
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  Speaker 3: can impact your ability to apply for home loans or
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  Speaker 3: loans in the future. So it's definitely something that you
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  Speaker 3: should be across. There are lots of different services where
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  Speaker 3: you can find your credit score for free and get
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  Speaker 3: a copy of your credit report for free, So definitely
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  Speaker 3: look into that because if you've a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: haven't even checked their credit score before.
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  Speaker 2: Again, this is something that we probably should be taught
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  Speaker 2: in school.
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  Speaker 1: Would be great, Yeah, it would be so nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I completely agree, And even for people
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  Speaker 3: who already already have after pay and are used to
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  Speaker 3: paying the late fee payments, like because I think.
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  Speaker 1: People have previously had a little bit of a nonchalant.
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  Speaker 3: Approach, approach the same as serious or as scary as
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  Speaker 3: other credit products, but the legislation is put in place
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  Speaker 3: to encourage responsible lending and customer protection against financial stress.
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  Speaker 2: So the government is basically.
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  Speaker 3: Trying to ensure that people aren't using buying now pay
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  Speaker 3: later when they can't afford to pay it back and
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  Speaker 3: then ending up in debt as a result of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how this impacts the future
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  Speaker 3: of buying our pay later in Australia, especially because like
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  Speaker 3: after pay.
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  Speaker 2: Started in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very much a part of our spending culture.
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  Speaker 3: And research from August twenty twenty four found that two
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  Speaker 3: and five Australians had used by now pay Later in
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  Speaker 3: the last six months, and gen Z and millennials represent
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  Speaker 3: a big portion of that. Un Surprisingly, and while both
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  Speaker 3: after pay and ZIP have claimed that these changes won't
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  Speaker 3: impact the bau of how they run their businesses, it'll
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to see how the space changes.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people are going to be closing
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  Speaker 1: down there by now pay later accounts. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the other side of the coin is that
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  Speaker 3: if you are using it responsibly and paying off it
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't affect your time. It could have like a positive
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  Speaker 3: impact showing that you have the ability to pay off repayments.
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  Speaker 3: But again, how these things are reflected apparently are going
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  Speaker 3: to differ between the different services, So look into which
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  Speaker 3: one you're using, find out how it applies to you.
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  Speaker 2: But this is just your.
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  Speaker 3: Friend psasa that these changes are happening and to look
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  Speaker 3: into it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, spicy, and we're onto our final dish of spice.
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  Speaker 1: News Arrivals number three Choice study finds that only four
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  Speaker 1: out of twenty sunscreens meet their SVF claims on the packaging.
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  Speaker 1: My god, dad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I saw this headline last night. Yeah, Alex
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  Speaker 3: is definitely bringing this to News arrivals. Oh yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't click into anything.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I've gotta hold off.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you would have been all over it because
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  Speaker 1: you can't deal with a surprise. But I'm very good
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  Speaker 1: at a show for the good of the show. So
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  Speaker 1: here's the TLDR. Choice tested twenty popular sunscreens on the market.
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  Speaker 1: Sixteen of them failed to meet their SBF claims. They
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  Speaker 1: sent the products to a TGA approved external laboratory. I
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  Speaker 1: love saying that word that has specialist equipment and expertise
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  Speaker 1: in SBF testing right. The test included taking a panel
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  Speaker 1: of ten volunteers and using a very specific process using
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  Speaker 1: each of the twenty sunscreens. The first step included investigating
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  Speaker 1: how much UV exposure causes redness to appear on a
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  Speaker 1: person's unprotected skin. Next, they calibrated a solar simulator designed
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  Speaker 1: to imitate the sun and apply doses of light to
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  Speaker 1: both protected and unprotected areas of the skin. They then
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  Speaker 1: recorded and compared and used these results to create a
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  Speaker 1: score which was relative to how close sunscreen comes to
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  Speaker 1: hitting the SBF claim. Now, I did watch a video
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  Speaker 1: from lab Muff and Beauty Science. She's amazing and often
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  Speaker 1: lab Muff and Beauty Science. Yes, I love that her
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  Speaker 1: content is incredible, so educational, and in her video she
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  Speaker 1: does go on to explain that testing SBF and sunscreens,
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of variables that can affect the results,
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  Speaker 1: even down to the color of the walls in the room.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's really important to include that because
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about a very important product on the market,
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  Speaker 1: and so she provides a lot of context around that
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  Speaker 1: about how sunscreens and SBS are tested. So definitely do
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  Speaker 1: watch that. So they recorded and compared these results to
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  Speaker 1: create a score which was relative to how close sunscreen
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  Speaker 1: comes to hitting its SBF claims. Now here's a little
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  Speaker 1: SBF refresher of how it works. SBF is a measure
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  Speaker 1: of how effective sunscreen is are protecting your skin from
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  Speaker 1: UVB rays. If it takes five minutes of sun exposure
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  Speaker 1: for your skin to start burning, applying an SBF fifty
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  Speaker 1: sunscreen protects you for fifty times that amount of time,
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  Speaker 1: So in this case two hundred and fifty minutes, sunscreen
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  Speaker 1: with an SBF of thirty would protect you ideally for
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty minutes. There's a lot of also
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  Speaker 1: research that goes to show kind of the difference between
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  Speaker 1: thirty verse fifty, and it's a bit smaller than what
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  Speaker 1: a consumer might assume, but obviously fifteen to fifty plus
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  Speaker 1: is a longer period of time. So Choice chief Ashley
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  Speaker 1: da Silva, in a statement on Thursday, said it's also
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  Speaker 1: important to highlight that this testing does not mean sunscreen
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work. While sun specific sunscreens did not meet their
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  Speaker 1: claimed SBF, as sunscreen with an SBF of thirty or
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  Speaker 1: even twenty still offers a significant amount of sunscreen protection,
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  Speaker 1: and any sunscreen is better than none at all, than nonscreen,
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  Speaker 1: then nounscreen, and I think again, that's something that I
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  Speaker 1: want to start early. Because Hannah English also came and
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  Speaker 1: said that these headlines are potentially going to be more
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  Speaker 1: damaging than the test itself. Some of the headlines were
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  Speaker 1: basically just saying and having the alluding to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that sunscreen there's no point to it at all, which
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  Speaker 1: is not the case.
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  Speaker 2: Like that they don't work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as if like SBF, Oh look they all failed,
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  Speaker 1: don't need to use one. That's not the case. You
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  Speaker 1: absolutely still need to be using an SBF. So let's
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  Speaker 1: break down the results. Now that we've got all those
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, this is where it gets wild.
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  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: The sunscreen which had the lowest score and most significant failure,
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  Speaker 1: in Choice's words, was the ultraviolet lean screen SBF fifty
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  Speaker 1: plus mattifying zinc skints that came out with an SBF
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  Speaker 1: of four out of fifty. So, despite the rigorous testing process,
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  Speaker 1: Choice was so surprised by these results they delayed publishing
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  Speaker 1: to the study to test a different batch of ultraviolet
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  Speaker 1: at a different lab in Germany, and the lab came
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  Speaker 1: back with an SBF of five.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, so basically the.
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  Speaker 1: Same, basically the same, And this is where a lot
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  Speaker 1: of online conversation has resulted from because Ultraviolet is an
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  Speaker 1: SBF brand, that's how they got their start with some screens.
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  Speaker 1: Ultraviolet has responded with a full response on their site,
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  Speaker 1: claiming that their SBF has a score of sixty plus
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  Speaker 1: with their testing. So we're getting choice, who's saying the
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  Speaker 1: SBF was four to five and Ultraviolet, who's saying the
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  Speaker 1: SBF is sixty plus. Yeah, it's very very confusing. Ultraviolet
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  Speaker 1: suggested that human error or a mix up of samples
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  Speaker 1: was a highly probable scenario. The manufacturer also said that
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  Speaker 1: given the levels of zinc oxide in the lean screen
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  Speaker 1: sunscreen and sbfoor four was scientifically impossible. What do I
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  Speaker 1: believe exactly? And do you know what? I do not
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  Speaker 1: think we have seen the end of this, no way,
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  Speaker 1: or because a lot of the conversation online has been
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you just said of I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: to believe, and if you were going to err on
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  Speaker 1: the side of I don't know, you're going to err
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  Speaker 1: on the side of caution. Right, so you're probably not
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  Speaker 1: going to use the product anymore. If choice is wrong,
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  Speaker 1: that is a lawsuit because the damages, the financial damages
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  Speaker 1: of this report are going to be so large that
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  Speaker 1: the financial revenue of Ultraviolet is definitely going to be affected.
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  Speaker 1: That if this testing is incorrect, which again we don't know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way for us to know that. If this
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  Speaker 1: choice test is wrong, that's going to be huge.
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  Speaker 3: Yea.
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  Speaker 1: If this choice test is right, that's also huge because
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  Speaker 1: like I again, I've always loved Ultraviolet as well, so
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  Speaker 1: but after this, I'm like, Okay, I think another piece
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  Speaker 1: that they gave us feedback was that they've never had
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  Speaker 1: any customer feedback saying that they've used the product and
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  Speaker 1: received sunburn. But yeah, it's it's.
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  Speaker 3: Very so surprising because the discussion around this is that
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  Speaker 3: Australia has like the strictest TGA laws when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to SBF, and we take SPF like more seriously than
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  Speaker 3: any other country, and every ESPF in Australia is like
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  Speaker 3: top tier and it goes through all of these things.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, where's the disconnect.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, so Ultraviolet said we are
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  Speaker 1: deeply committed to the health and safety of our customers,
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  Speaker 1: rigorously retesting our entire SBF range every two years. Lean
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  Speaker 1: Screen has been on the market for five years in
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine countries and we have not received a single
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  Speaker 1: substantiated claim of sunburn during use, reinforcing our confidence in
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  Speaker 1: the testing we have. If the Choice results were at
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  Speaker 1: least feasible, we would have hundreds of cases of reported
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  Speaker 1: sunburn and skin damage while using this product in real
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  Speaker 1: life situations. They also made a statement on their Instagram
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  Speaker 1: in response to the recent claims made by Choice. The
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: safety and quality of our products is our top priority.
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  Speaker 1: Lean Screen, like all UV formulas, are made by reputable
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  Speaker 1: TGA licensed manufacturers and independently tested to meet the strictest
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: global SBF standards. Choices results are indirect contrast to our
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: verified data. When lean Screen launched in twenty twenty one,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: it tested at SBF sixty four point three two, which
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: is why it now has SBF fifty plus on the label.
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  Speaker 1: After learning of Choices test in April, we commissioned a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: new independent full panel study and the result came back
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: at SBF sixty one point seven. For transparency, we've linked
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: both original and retest reports and our full statement in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: our bio. We're here to answer any questions and we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: stand by our commitment to giving you the very best
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: in SBF. So I've included in the show notes a
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: link to Ultra violets full response and also responses from
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: other manufacturers that were included in this test. How crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to think, but yeah, so they
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: knew about it in April.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They knew about an ape.
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  Speaker 3: I did Choice reach out to all of these people
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  Speaker 3: and let them know, and then they've waited until June
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  Speaker 3: to publish them. Do you think that's to give them
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: like the ride of reply?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so, and I think as well it accounted
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  Speaker 1: for any retesting or individual testing right. In addition to this,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: fifteen other brands test came back with lower results than advertised.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Will include a link to the infographics so you can
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: see the whole list. But let's focus on the four
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: sunscreens that did meet their SPF claims according to Choice's test.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Mecha Cosmetica to Save Body SPF fifty plus Hydrating Sunscreen,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: which tested at fifty one and is seven dollars and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: thirty five cents per dose. Cancer Council Kids Sunscreen fifty plus,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: which tested at fifty two and is four dollars and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: ninety three cents per dose, Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Body Lotion
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: SPF fifty which tested at fifty six and eight dollars
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and twenty four cents per dose, and laroche Pose Antholios
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: anthilios wet skin sunscreen SPF fifty plus, which tested at
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: seventy two and is eight dollars and four cents per dose.
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  Speaker 2: It's good tonight. It's what I'm using right now.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Is it really? Oh my god? There you go. So
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the TGA, I think is likely to get involved in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a statement, They shared it is investigating choices findings and
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: will take regulatory action as required. An A Triple C
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: spokesperson told Pedestrian TV it is aware of the report
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  Speaker 1: and is considering the issues in accordance with our compliance
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  Speaker 1: and enforcement policy. The A Triple C will engage closely
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: with the TGA in considering the allegations, they said. Despite
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the choice results, the Melanoma Institute Head of Dermatology, Linda
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Martin has urged Australians to maintain confidence in sunscreens. Don't
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: go throw out your sunscreens. If anything, use more and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: that's the most important take home message from this entire thing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: She said. While testing needed to improve to make sure
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: labeling was accurate, adequate application of sunscreen was just as
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: important and that is something that we've seen a lot
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: of and in those two videos I referenced earlier, they've
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: both made those points that a lot of sunscreen eerror
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: comes from user error as well of not using enough,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not reapplying the way that you're putting it on, whether
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you're swimming straight after, and that is also such an
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: important piece of the puzzle as well. And research has
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: long shown many Australians do not apply enough sunscreen and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that two in three will be diagnosed with skins cancer
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in their lifetime. So whilst yes it is a very
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: spicy story, I think it is an incredible reminder of
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: sun safety and to really ensure that you're using your
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: sunscreen properly and correctly, but do not stop applying sunscreen.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That is absolutely the one hundred percent messives that we
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: want everyone to take away from this. All right, Well,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that is a wrap of news arrivals for the week.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also this was our last news arrivals for
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're going on holidays.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yep, but don't worry.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: We'll still me in the eils celebrate going to Europe
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: but just yep, but we'll see when moved back. Yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: moving back.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Thanks to you chicks for having us in your ear holes.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Would love to be here, and thank you to m.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I K Made for making today's episode happened.
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  Speaker 1: Love you chicks, Bye bye