Latest / Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar / 7/20/26: 4 US Troops Killed, Houthi Red Sea Blockade, Mearsheimer Dire Warning
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- 0:37Speaker 1: Have, Crystal?
- 0:37Speaker 2: Indeed we do so More American service members have been
- 0:40Speaker 2: killed and wounded.
- 0:41Speaker 4: We've got the details of that.
- 0:43Speaker 2: As we seem to be hurtling back towards all out war.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Martaza Hussein is also going to join us to take
- 0:48Speaker 2: a look at the strikes between the Iran and the
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- 2:13Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and start.
- 2:14Speaker 3: As Crystal said, it's very sadly with the debts announcement
- 2:17Speaker 3: of American service members. Let's actually put the first element
- 2:21Speaker 3: up here on the screen quote the US heitters on
- 2:24Speaker 3: return to all out war with Iran after more troops
- 2:27Speaker 3: were killed. So the details of this are really tragic.
- 2:30Speaker 3: We now have currently three likely service members who were
- 2:34Speaker 3: killed in that attack on a base in Jordan, and
- 2:37Speaker 3: another who was killed yesterday in Iraq during a detonation
- 2:41Speaker 3: of an unexploded Iranian drone.
- 2:43Speaker 1: That one appears to have been a very serious accident.
- 2:45Speaker 3: While the drone was being decommissioned or exploded in a
- 2:49Speaker 3: controlled way, the debris ended up striking and killing another person,
- 2:53Speaker 3: not the person who is doing that. In terms of
- 2:55Speaker 3: those three service members, two have been confirmed to have
- 2:59Speaker 3: been killed in action. We learned the names of two
- 3:02Speaker 3: of them just this morning at twenty five year old
- 3:04Speaker 3: first lieutenant and a nineteen year old private, nineteen year
- 3:07Speaker 3: old girl from Texas, which just kills me on it,
- 3:10Speaker 3: I can't continue to talk about that. The last one
- 3:13Speaker 3: is a last one servicement. We don't have their identification
- 3:16Speaker 3: yet appears to have been They were initially listed as missing.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Some remains have been found to the identification process for
- 3:23Speaker 3: that body is now underway. But what we do know
- 3:26Speaker 3: is that the video of the strike, and we can
- 3:28Speaker 3: show that one all of you, just demonstrates how difficult
- 3:33Speaker 3: the United States now finds itself in a position where
- 3:36Speaker 3: this is a Air Force base in the middle of Jordan,
- 3:41Speaker 3: where previously we've had seen strikes in terms of drones.
- 3:45Speaker 1: But look at what that looks like when a.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Ballistic missile slams into the middle of the base and
- 3:53Speaker 3: of course kills or likely three service members, but also
- 3:57Speaker 3: does a significant amount of damage. A lot of the
- 4:00Speaker 3: after action report that has come out from this strike
- 4:04Speaker 3: actually demonstrates the sheer nightmare that we are all living
- 4:07Speaker 3: in right now. It appears that these missiles are being
- 4:11Speaker 3: fired directly in a way that having learned through multiple
- 4:15Speaker 3: months now of strikes on US basis that Iran has
- 4:17Speaker 3: actually developed new tactics to be able to penetrate American systems.
- 4:21Speaker 3: There's a lot of speculation, obviously not confirmed right now
- 4:25Speaker 3: as to the lock the low stock of interceptors which
- 4:29Speaker 3: we have hammered home here from the beginning on the show.
- 4:33Speaker 3: Nobody knows what the current stock pilot is. Somewhere between
- 4:35Speaker 3: fifty and eighty percent of US interceptors are likely already depleted,
- 4:39Speaker 3: which means we could be in rationing. And this is
- 4:41Speaker 3: what rationing would look like, is that you just simply
- 4:43Speaker 3: don't have the ability to hit everything.
- 4:45Speaker 1: So it's either or.
- 4:46Speaker 3: The Pentagon has not given any details, and we also know,
- 4:49Speaker 3: and this is the element guys I sent this morning,
- 4:52Speaker 3: is that there have been hundreds of now casualties which
- 4:55Speaker 3: have been hidden from the American people. We could put
- 4:58Speaker 3: this up from the New York Times, which says the
- 5:01Speaker 3: Pentagon has withheld dozens of US military injuries now in
- 5:05Speaker 3: the Iran war. Dozens actually just this week quote attacks
- 5:09Speaker 3: injured dozens of service members, damaged several helicopters. According to
- 5:13Speaker 3: several US officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 5:16Speaker 3: to discuss operational matters, and that included those strikes that
- 5:21Speaker 3: actually killed these multiple service members. In this particular strike
- 5:24Speaker 3: as well as across the region, the Pentagon has not
- 5:27Speaker 3: released any updates whatsoever on those strikes. They also have
- 5:31Speaker 3: reduced the information in terms of the strikes that they
- 5:34Speaker 3: are conducting, which demonstrates again that they are very fearful
- 5:37Speaker 3: of the amount of information the Iranians have been able
- 5:40Speaker 3: to take in and to adapt their tactics. No signs
- 5:43Speaker 3: yet that things are abating. Trump previously, in a Wall
- 5:46Speaker 3: Street Journal report about two months ago, had said that
- 5:48Speaker 3: Trump is content with the ceasefire strategy as long as
- 5:51Speaker 3: no Americans are killed.
- 5:52Speaker 1: And now we have four that are killed, well, three likely.
- 5:55Speaker 3: Another confirms four likely debts, all just in a twenty
- 5:59Speaker 3: four hour period, which all of this is not looking.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Good right now.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Yeah, and many more.
- 6:03Speaker 2: There's you know, indications that in that strike there are
- 6:06Speaker 2: many more serious serious injuries as well. In that original
- 6:11Speaker 2: Washington Post piece that we had up on the screen,
- 6:13Speaker 2: they're saying, not only are we low on interceptors, we're
- 6:16Speaker 2: low on pretty much everything. There were officials that they
- 6:19Speaker 2: spoke to I'll read this portion speaking on the condition
- 6:21Speaker 2: of anonymity, caution that the expansion of US operations will
- 6:26Speaker 2: be limited by dwindling stockpiles of air defense and long
- 6:30Speaker 2: range munitions, and constraints on the ability to surge more
- 6:33Speaker 2: troops and aircraft into the area because of battle damage.
- 6:37Speaker 2: We do not have enough to safely sustain operations, and
- 6:41Speaker 2: I don't think the White House is aware of that.
- 6:45Speaker 4: Just sit with that for a second. This official within the.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Trump administration is saying, we don't have the troops, we
- 6:50Speaker 2: don't have the long range munitions, we certainly don't have
- 6:53Speaker 2: the interceptors to continue with this operation, this escalation that
- 6:57Speaker 2: we've been pushing forward. And I don't know that the
- 6:59Speaker 2: Administry station that the White House Trump knows about that.
- 7:03Speaker 2: They go on to say military experts have said that
- 7:05Speaker 2: in addition of the toll taken on US equipment and
- 7:08Speaker 2: munition stocks, the US is unprepared for possible ground operations
- 7:12Speaker 2: inside or on that Trump last week refused to rule out.
- 7:16Speaker 2: So this couldn't be the reason why after a series
- 7:21Speaker 2: of high level, quite significant strikes, there actually was a reduction.
- 7:25Speaker 2: It seemingly, again based on what we can gleam from
- 7:28Speaker 2: public information.
- 7:29Speaker 4: There was a reduction in the number of.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Strikes, you know, as the weekend progressed. It could be
- 7:34Speaker 2: simply due to limitations and what we're able to do
- 7:38Speaker 2: at this point.
- 7:39Speaker 4: So that is absolutely extraordinary.
- 7:41Speaker 2: And then the other thing I wanted to point out
- 7:43Speaker 2: with regard to the strike on this Jordanian base. We'll
- 7:46Speaker 2: talk to Mos more about this because he'll have more detail.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But Jordan has long been very close to US ally.
- 7:51Speaker 2: We send them billions of dollars and they allow us
- 7:54Speaker 2: to operate basically freely within their country. They also have
- 7:57Speaker 2: very large Palestinian population, including actually the Queen who's pallaced
- 8:01Speaker 2: Ani and Jordanian, and so they have a very sensitive
- 8:05Speaker 2: political situation as well, which is why they've always downplayed
- 8:08Speaker 2: the presence of US troops on their soil. But very
- 8:11Speaker 2: clearly we've been operating there for a long time. We're
- 8:14Speaker 2: not particularly shy about talking about it.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Here.
- 8:16Speaker 2: The IRGC put out a statement thanking the Jordanian people
- 8:21Speaker 2: for providing the targeting information that enabled these strikes, and
- 8:25Speaker 2: they think in particular some members of the Jordanian military.
- 8:29Speaker 4: So this is an important piece to keep in mind.
- 8:31Speaker 2: I don't know whether that's true or not, or whether
- 8:33Speaker 2: that's just they want to project, but it is important
- 8:36Speaker 2: to keep in mind that even though the governments of
- 8:40Speaker 2: these nations, these Gulf nations that were operating out of,
- 8:43Speaker 2: or Arab nations in the case of Jordan that we're
- 8:44Speaker 2: operating out of, even though the governments may be aligned
- 8:48Speaker 2: with the US, the people is a very different story. So,
- 8:52Speaker 2: you know, even though they're monarchies and you know, don't
- 8:55Speaker 2: have freedom of democracy in most instances, you still have
- 8:58Speaker 2: pressure from people that create It's also a very volatile
- 9:01Speaker 2: political situation and a lot of exposure for US.
- 9:04Speaker 4: In the region.
- 9:05Speaker 3: That's almost certainly not true in terms of the military piece.
- 9:07Speaker 3: It's almost certainly true whenever it comes to the population. Actually,
- 9:10Speaker 3: we can just give you an example. Let's put a
- 9:11Speaker 3: two up here on the screen just to show all
- 9:14Speaker 3: of you. This is satellite imagery which was released by Iran,
- 9:17Speaker 3: which actually shows many of the strikes across the region.
- 9:21Speaker 3: So we have Bahrain, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, and Qatar. I
- 9:25Speaker 3: mean Bahrain. We have talked a lot over the last
- 9:27Speaker 3: several months here on the show about their Shia population,
- 9:30Speaker 3: how they had serious domestic uprisings and actually a scap
- 9:33Speaker 3: of being part of their population is on the side
- 9:35Speaker 3: of Iran, right, and so of course it would make
- 9:37Speaker 3: a complete sense that they probably have you know, fifth
- 9:39Speaker 3: calumnists and others who are much more siding with the
- 9:43Speaker 3: Iranians than with the United States Jordan. As you just said,
- 9:45Speaker 3: that one is self explanatory, and that's where many US
- 9:49Speaker 3: service members all were just killed within the last forty
- 9:52Speaker 3: eight hours.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Iraq also major Shia.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Population, started to tell anybody about the US popularity in Iraq,
- 9:58Speaker 3: where actually the minister in the United States just president
- 10:02Speaker 3: just met a few days ago, and in it they
- 10:04Speaker 3: committed to a removal of US forces eventually from Iraq.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Anyone want to tell me why they're even there since
- 10:11Speaker 3: after two thousand and three. But you know, of course
- 10:13Speaker 3: that's the American Empire, and then Kuwait and Katar, so
- 10:17Speaker 3: all of these countries have bases tens of that maybe
- 10:21Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands. At this point, we really have no idea.
- 10:24Speaker 3: That's one thing I also want to emphasize. I just
- 10:26Speaker 3: see that we are getting such a tiny little picture
- 10:29Speaker 3: of what's actually happening. Yeah, these Gulf countries have cracked
- 10:32Speaker 3: down so hard. We have no clue what's coming out
- 10:36Speaker 3: of that reach, like the videos and all of that
- 10:38Speaker 3: from the early days of the war.
- 10:39Speaker 1: They are not going to allow any of that anymore.
- 10:42Speaker 1: You know.
- 10:42Speaker 3: We also know the international news agencies and others are
- 10:45Speaker 3: under strict censorship regime a lot of the population. You know,
- 10:49Speaker 3: they're all being monitored for what they can and can't
- 10:51Speaker 3: put out. You know, here in terms of about the
- 10:53Speaker 3: US service members that have all been wounded, that all
- 10:57Speaker 3: of that was covered up and it did you know,
- 10:59Speaker 3: the battle damage assessment others is coming by anonymous leaks,
- 11:03Speaker 3: very likely from people in the military who are shocked,
- 11:05Speaker 3: who are horrified about what's happening. And we're really I
- 11:09Speaker 3: mean I feel in a sober mood. I think we're
- 11:11Speaker 3: on the precipice. I just do not see a way
- 11:14Speaker 3: out at this point. We will talk with MOZ about
- 11:17Speaker 3: there's a new ten day cease fire. I mean, we've
- 11:20Speaker 3: just seen it all before. At this point, the strategic
- 11:23Speaker 3: logic of it just keeps coming back to the Iranians.
- 11:26Speaker 1: One exact pain.
- 11:27Speaker 3: Their global strategy is one where we punish the US consumer.
- 11:31Speaker 1: We'll talk later.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Oil so gas is back at four dollars a gallon
- 11:35Speaker 3: at a national price. Their other strategy is to cause
- 11:38Speaker 3: significant chaos and to create costs on the Gulf countries
- 11:43Speaker 3: for their alliance with the United States. And you know,
- 11:45Speaker 3: in these service members in particular, you could say in
- 11:47Speaker 3: the beginning, like, oh, you know they were America was
- 11:51Speaker 3: dragged into.
- 11:52Speaker 1: This war by these reel. It's not entirely true, but
- 11:53Speaker 1: you know, partially true. At the very least.
- 11:55Speaker 3: This is Trump, Like this is all just Trump is
- 12:00Speaker 3: firing as a right these people dot What did these
- 12:03Speaker 3: people die for?
- 12:04Speaker 1: I know that's an uncomfortable.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Question, but how can like this is so entirely on Donald,
- 12:08Speaker 3: So this is a nineteen year old girl there who
- 12:11Speaker 3: is dead because of these strikes. Also, if you look
- 12:14Speaker 3: at their occupation, they're all work in missile defense and
- 12:17Speaker 3: in artillery units. So what does that tell you about
- 12:19Speaker 3: Iranian targeting? So they know exactly where the specialized units are.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Remember when that Space force casualty was killed as well.
- 12:26Speaker 3: So they're directly have high levels of intelligence and they're
- 12:28Speaker 3: creating significant costs here and for them, they have had
- 12:32Speaker 3: orders of magnitude people be killed. But they're living in
- 12:35Speaker 3: an existential conflict like One of the clips will show
- 12:38Speaker 3: people in a little bit is the Foreign Minister Arachi
- 12:41Speaker 3: talking about do you know what it's like to sit
- 12:43Speaker 3: in a meeting and think you're going to get bombed?
- 12:45Speaker 3: That puts you in a genuine bunker mindset. None of
- 12:48Speaker 3: us are there. We can't even tell you why at
- 12:50Speaker 3: the poling came out today. The Iran War is the
- 12:53Speaker 3: least popular war in the history of Poling, in the
- 12:56Speaker 3: history of Poe.
- 12:57Speaker 1: It took six.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Years for Americans to get to this point whenever came
- 13:00Speaker 3: to Vietnam, and even then there was still some dead
- 13:02Speaker 3: enders and others. There's nobody thirty percent or whatever of
- 13:06Speaker 3: the country only who is still mainlining Fox News, who
- 13:09Speaker 3: still believes a lot of the stuff.
- 13:11Speaker 2: But the problem is those people in Trump's space are
- 13:14Speaker 2: overwhelmingly in favor of it. And so even though you
- 13:17Speaker 2: would look at the national picture and say, oh, that
- 13:19Speaker 2: it argues in favor of getting out, I mean, the
- 13:21Speaker 2: problem for him politically is if he gets out and
- 13:25Speaker 2: accepts the surrender, he knows he's politically screwed. If he
- 13:28Speaker 2: does something insane, ground incursion, nuclear weapon, god forbid, there's
- 13:33Speaker 2: some chance maybe it works out. So I guess the
- 13:36Speaker 2: way he's looking at it is while taking some chance,
- 13:39Speaker 2: having some possibility that I can turn this thing around,
- 13:42Speaker 2: is better than the certain humiliation that is entailed in
- 13:46Speaker 2: accepting the Memo of Understanding, this on the table. And
- 13:48Speaker 2: by the way, you know, we just sort of assume
- 13:51Speaker 2: that what was agreed, the framework that was agreed to before,
- 13:53Speaker 2: is going to continue to be on the table. And
- 13:55Speaker 2: I don't think that's a safeth assumption whatsoever, because what
- 13:58Speaker 2: Trump is effectively done here has proven the hardliners in
- 14:01Speaker 2: Iran correct. After they signed this Memo of Understanding, then
- 14:04Speaker 2: the first thing they do is go out and try
- 14:06Speaker 2: to establish this other cord or that the US can
- 14:08Speaker 2: control in the Strait of Hormus. Your audience said, look,
- 14:11Speaker 2: we knew we couldn't trust these people. See, we can't
- 14:13Speaker 2: trust them, you can negotiate them, you can't work with them.
- 14:16Speaker 2: We should have continued our own striking, our own bombing
- 14:19Speaker 2: campaign so that we could gain war leverage, and they
- 14:22Speaker 2: have not experienced enough pain. That is the view that
- 14:24Speaker 2: is going to be a sendate in Iran because of
- 14:27Speaker 2: our actions here. So with that being said, let's go
- 14:29Speaker 2: ahead and bring in Rataza Hussein from drop site to
- 14:32Speaker 2: talk about everything that has transpired so far.
- 14:37Speaker 4: Mad's good to see.
- 14:37Speaker 5: You could see both good sea man.
- 14:40Speaker 2: So your reaction to the events over the weekend, these
- 14:43Speaker 2: escalating strikes, the service members who have been killed.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Where do you think we are at this point?
- 14:47Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's really heartbreaking actually because I think
- 14:50Speaker 6: we were told many months ago that the war was
- 14:52Speaker 6: over and we're still taking casualties in the region as
- 14:56Speaker 6: the results of the conflict. I think if the war
- 14:59Speaker 6: were to continue, it's only going to get in terms
- 15:02Speaker 6: casualties and escalation and so forth, because the phase of
- 15:06Speaker 6: the war is now moving to one where the defending party,
- 15:09Speaker 6: who's trying to wage a war patrician.
- 15:11Speaker 5: Really has the advantage.
- 15:12Speaker 6: The way the Iranians fought the war was effectively in
- 15:15Speaker 6: the early stages, they were using their older ballistic missiles
- 15:19Speaker 6: to try to drain the missile defenses throughout the region.
- 15:23Speaker 6: And you know that meant that the US is fighting
- 15:26Speaker 6: for a position of advantage because the suspenses were stronger.
- 15:29Speaker 6: Those have either been destroyed now or significantly depleted by
- 15:32Speaker 6: those attacks, and which you saw in these attacks with
- 15:34Speaker 6: the Iranians are using their more advanced missiles the ones
- 15:37Speaker 6: that they were holding in reserve, and they're doing more damage.
- 15:40Speaker 6: They're more accurate, they're hitting farther away from Iran, they're
- 15:44Speaker 6: striking targets with great precision, and that will continue if
- 15:48Speaker 6: the war continues on in this fashion. So I think
- 15:51Speaker 6: that the MoU really was a great time for the
- 15:54Speaker 6: US to end the war because it was ending in
- 15:56Speaker 6: a position. While you know, the deal, the terms were
- 15:59Speaker 6: not great for the US. It was ending at a
- 16:01Speaker 6: time when Iran's advantages as the nutritional power were not
- 16:06Speaker 6: really coming to point beer. If the war doesn't go
- 16:08Speaker 6: on a lot, it's going to be quite a bit
- 16:09Speaker 6: more of this, And it's really heartbreaking because I saw today,
- 16:12Speaker 6: I think stugar I mentioned that the nineteen year old,
- 16:14Speaker 6: the twenty.
- 16:14Speaker 5: Three year old were killed.
- 16:16Speaker 6: There's no reason for those people to be in the
- 16:17Speaker 6: Middle East dying in a war against Iran. But if
- 16:20Speaker 6: the war does continue, unfortunately, there's going to be a
- 16:22Speaker 6: lot more of that, and we'll also see more pressure
- 16:25Speaker 6: for a ground campaign because the air campaign itself is
- 16:28Speaker 6: not designed to defeat Iran. It's not really capable of
- 16:30Speaker 6: doing that. And the way that the war is also fought,
- 16:33Speaker 6: the campaign intensity of the air goes down over time,
- 16:37Speaker 6: so really February twenty eighth March fourth that period that
- 16:40Speaker 6: was the peak intensity and it only goes down from there.
- 16:43Speaker 6: And these destruction of bases is also going to further
- 16:45Speaker 6: reduce the effectiveness of the aerial weapon, so there'll be
- 16:49Speaker 6: more pressure to take an island, to launch some sort
- 16:51Speaker 6: of ground campaign, and that will mean more casualties inevitably
- 16:55Speaker 6: as the war continues.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Let's put a eight up there on the say a seven.
- 16:59Speaker 3: I apologize. The US actually attacked a nuclear power plant
- 17:03Speaker 3: site in Iran. Several missiles hit the power plant. This
- 17:08Speaker 3: caused some retaliation from the Iranians who appear to have
- 17:12Speaker 3: hit Let's put a six please on the screen multiple
- 17:15Speaker 3: desalination and power plants in Kuwait. The targeting of civilian infrastructure,
- 17:21Speaker 3: both from the United States and then in retaliation from
- 17:25Speaker 3: Iran kind of fulfills this escalation trap that we've been
- 17:29Speaker 3: worried about MOS. But does the United States have the
- 17:33Speaker 3: military capacity to sit here and take this for even
- 17:37Speaker 3: another year. I mean, everything that we've seen so far
- 17:41Speaker 3: from the depletion of interceptor socks in just a matter
- 17:43Speaker 3: of thirty nine days, God only knows what those numbers
- 17:45Speaker 3: are right now after these series of strikes currently. I mean,
- 17:49Speaker 3: it does seem to create a logic where you literally
- 17:53Speaker 3: have to do a ground invasion or buckle in the
- 17:55Speaker 3: future or you will simply have nothing left whenever it
- 17:59Speaker 3: comes to firing back missiles being sent to you.
- 18:01Speaker 6: Well, you know, that's exactly the problem, because first of all,
- 18:04Speaker 6: the depletion of interceptor stocks and the destruction of air
- 18:07Speaker 6: defenses means that the war becomes more dangerous for the
- 18:09Speaker 6: US and as allies as it goes on, and we're
- 18:12Speaker 6: currently entering that phase at the moment. But secondly, there
- 18:15Speaker 6: will be more pressure because the US can either capitulate
- 18:18Speaker 6: or leave the conflict without a deal. I think a
- 18:21Speaker 6: deal itself, for many reasons we can talk about, is
- 18:23Speaker 6: probably becoming more unlikely, or could escalate to the ground
- 18:27Speaker 6: and escalate to try to invade the Iranian coast, try
- 18:31Speaker 6: and invade certain islands in Iran and.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Capture them and so forth.
- 18:34Speaker 6: But that really does not make a lot of sense
- 18:36Speaker 6: to me either, because, first of all, leaving aside the
- 18:38Speaker 6: casualties that will take place in that circumstance, it's.
- 18:40Speaker 5: Not clear why that would end the war.
- 18:42Speaker 6: If the US takes a couple of islands, and the
- 18:45Speaker 6: straightform moves, Iran will fire ballistic missiles those islands.
- 18:49Speaker 5: People will be killed in those attacks.
- 18:51Speaker 6: There'll be a question of how to resupply people on
- 18:54Speaker 6: the islands, how to keep them there, what they'll be
- 18:56Speaker 6: doing while they're there, how to keep them safe, and
- 18:58Speaker 6: so forth. Those quess won't go away, and that escalation
- 19:02Speaker 6: will leave further escalation, because then if you hold the islands,
- 19:05Speaker 6: you may need to hold part of the coast to
- 19:07Speaker 6: keep the soldiers there safe. And then when you're on
- 19:09Speaker 6: the coast to be hit by drones and ground attacks,
- 19:12Speaker 6: you'll have to invade further inland. And really the logic
- 19:15Speaker 6: of it is eventually you'll have to invade the country
- 19:17Speaker 6: all the way to Tehran to depose the government by ground,
- 19:21Speaker 6: because that's the only way of even theoretically keeping people
- 19:24Speaker 6: making your previous gains sustainable, and that if you look
- 19:27Speaker 6: at the size of Iran, it's a country of ninety
- 19:29Speaker 6: two million people, it's the size of Western Europe. You
- 19:32Speaker 6: really need a draft to be able to even think
- 19:34Speaker 6: about doing that, and even a draft itself will probably
- 19:37Speaker 6: not be generate enough brigades to hold the entire country
- 19:40Speaker 6: and pacify and so forth.
- 19:42Speaker 5: And I don't think anyone in America really wants that.
- 19:44Speaker 6: If you've meantally mentioned earlier, the war's the most unpopular war,
- 19:47Speaker 6: and since polling has been done before a draft, before
- 19:50Speaker 6: a crown campaign, and so forth. Really at the early stages,
- 19:53Speaker 6: so it seems politically impossible. But the US and Trump
- 19:56Speaker 6: himself has kind of boxed himself into this situation whereby
- 20:00Speaker 6: he can either walk away, which I think he still
- 20:01Speaker 6: can do, or he can be trapped in the situation
- 20:05Speaker 6: of greater and greater escalation, which will be much more
- 20:07Speaker 6: casualties without any guarantee even.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Victory at the end.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Right as we got some significant development. I want to
- 20:12Speaker 2: get to you in just a minute, but I wanted
- 20:15Speaker 2: to get your sense of what you read into the
- 20:18Speaker 2: targets that were chosen, both on the Iranian and the
- 20:21Speaker 2: American side. So first, let's start with why are the
- 20:24Speaker 2: Iranians hitting Jordan so hard at this point, which is
- 20:27Speaker 2: a relatively new development here.
- 20:29Speaker 4: What do you think is the strategy at play?
- 20:31Speaker 5: Well, you know there are two things here.
- 20:33Speaker 6: First of all, in the early phases of the war,
- 20:35Speaker 6: Iran hit really hard. The bases which are closer to Iran,
- 20:39Speaker 6: and a lot of those bases have been disabled now
- 20:41Speaker 6: so they can't really be used and they're not deemed
- 20:44Speaker 6: safe enough to be used for air campaigns. A lot
- 20:46Speaker 6: of the infrastructure there has been destroyed and so forth.
- 20:48Speaker 6: And what they also did was they hit a lot
- 20:50Speaker 6: of the radars and air missile defenses which were between
- 20:54Speaker 6: itself and Jordan. So Jordan is basically the next domino
- 20:58Speaker 6: in line. And what the US did when the basis
- 21:00Speaker 6: closer to the Iran became unsafe or destroyed, they moved
- 21:03Speaker 6: more of their assets to Jordan. So Jordan became the
- 21:05Speaker 6: primary hub, one of the major, most important hubs for
- 21:09Speaker 6: waging the war against Iran. And now it's at the
- 21:12Speaker 6: front line, and now it's being hit really hard, and
- 21:15Speaker 6: now those bases are going to probably most likely be
- 21:18Speaker 6: deemed unsafe or disabled for the fight going forward. And
- 21:22Speaker 6: the aircraft love to move further away, so they have
- 21:24Speaker 6: to move probably to Israel. And Israel is further obviously
- 21:27Speaker 6: from Iran. It's also more defensible from the air because
- 21:32Speaker 6: more compact and the air defense density is greater around
- 21:35Speaker 6: its critical sits.
- 21:37Speaker 5: So you know, I think that's probably the next step.
- 21:40Speaker 6: What Iran is doing is trying to disable all the
- 21:42Speaker 6: bases in the Middle East which it can be used
- 21:44Speaker 6: to attack it, which are close to it, render them
- 21:46Speaker 6: unusable for the war. And if you have to fly
- 21:49Speaker 6: from Israel, you'll have to fly, There'll be fewer flights,
- 21:52Speaker 6: there'll be longer distances, and so forth, And the effectiveness
- 21:57Speaker 6: of an air campaign fought at a long distance is
- 22:00Speaker 6: much munch less than those which are fought, you know,
- 22:02Speaker 6: all on Iran's borders, So it'll be for their benefit.
- 22:07Speaker 6: And I think that the strikes against Jordan will probably
- 22:09Speaker 6: continue until that base is abandoned or not used for
- 22:12Speaker 6: active operations, or the Jordanians make some sort of a
- 22:15Speaker 6: deal with Iran to that end, And I think that's
- 22:18Speaker 6: kind of the only way out of the war at
- 22:19Speaker 6: this point. If the Arab countries around Iran decided to
- 22:23Speaker 6: make deals with Iran to end the war and say
- 22:25Speaker 6: they won't use the territory and airspace to be used
- 22:28Speaker 6: for attacks against Iran. Absent agreements like that in the region,
- 22:31Speaker 6: I think that the war will probably continue, and it
- 22:34Speaker 6: won't continue in a way which is favorable.
- 22:35Speaker 5: With anybody.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Turning now significant breaking news really happened in moments before
- 22:42Speaker 3: we just started. So let's go put this up here
- 22:45Speaker 3: on the screen breaking. The Huthis of Yemen have announced
- 22:48Speaker 3: a maritime embargo against Saudi Arabia quote effective immediately. Saudi
- 22:53Speaker 3: Arabia has until now exported about four point five billion
- 22:57Speaker 3: barrels per day from Yanbu in the Red z see,
- 23:00Speaker 3: most of it heading sound through the Bob al Mandeb
- 23:02Speaker 3: stread straight between Yemen and Djibouti. So this means mas,
- 23:06Speaker 3: this has been the literal nightmare scenario. This has been
- 23:09Speaker 3: a significant way for Saudi Arabia's economy to remain at
- 23:13Speaker 3: least somewhat resilient through the Straight of Horror Moves blockade.
- 23:17Speaker 1: With both the Straight of Horror Moves.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Blockaded and the Bab al Mandeb Straight for Saudi Arabian oil,
- 23:22Speaker 3: this will significantly impact, as we said, four point five
- 23:25Speaker 3: million barrels per day that we're currently transitting through the
- 23:29Speaker 3: Babel Mandeb strait and actually keeping the oil market at
- 23:32Speaker 3: least somewhat afloat throughout this last five month period. Your
- 23:36Speaker 3: reaction to the significance of this, and then of course,
- 23:38Speaker 3: building on the strategic problems for the United States and
- 23:41Speaker 3: the world coming out of this announcement.
- 23:44Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, this is posto a worst case scenario for
- 23:48Speaker 6: how the war could escalate, because you know, the reason
- 23:50Speaker 6: the global economy is not imploded to the degree it
- 23:53Speaker 6: could have because of the wars, because there was this
- 23:56Speaker 6: pressure valve in the Baba Mandeb and the Red Sea
- 24:00Speaker 6: which a lot of the oil not all of it,
- 24:01Speaker 6: but many much of it from the region could have
- 24:03Speaker 6: been pumped from this pipeline across sad Arabia and then
- 24:07Speaker 6: through the Suez and so forth, or down through Asia.
- 24:10Speaker 6: That's now theoretically, if this announcement holds and they really
- 24:14Speaker 6: do enforce it, that option is closed now. And what
- 24:17Speaker 6: also is happening is sad Arabia is being brought into
- 24:20Speaker 6: war much more directly, whereas they've been somewhat more aloof
- 24:23Speaker 6: from the conflict today. And you know, I think this
- 24:26Speaker 6: is now a situation where the global economy, economies in
- 24:29Speaker 6: Asia and Europe will be very existentially threatened on a
- 24:32Speaker 6: short time frame, and the US also will be impacted
- 24:35Speaker 6: very greatly. So the fact that the war even got
- 24:38Speaker 6: to this point is very very alarming. And the fact
- 24:41Speaker 6: that the Huthis and the Iranians are now taking. This
- 24:45Speaker 6: step is very very dangerous because it suggests they themselves
- 24:49Speaker 6: have now decided that the prospect of a negotiated solution
- 24:54Speaker 6: is unlikely or almost impossible at this point, and they're
- 24:58Speaker 6: using their own nuclear option here, or their own one
- 25:02Speaker 6: of the highest escalatory options that they had on the
- 25:05Speaker 6: table that they had not deployed in the first few
- 25:07Speaker 6: months of the war. And I think that the calculation
- 25:10Speaker 6: is that if the US cannot make a diplomatic agreement,
- 25:14Speaker 6: if it's you know, can't be trusted, or they can't
- 25:18Speaker 6: have a consensus in the US system strong enough to
- 25:21Speaker 6: push forward with the deal, then the only other option
- 25:23Speaker 6: is to basically send a very very strong deterrent message
- 25:26Speaker 6: by destroying the global economy, destroying the US economy, and
- 25:31Speaker 6: making sense, basically laying down a marker that no president
- 25:34Speaker 6: will ever want to do this again because it was
- 25:36Speaker 6: so painful. If you can't make a deal, you can
- 25:39Speaker 6: at least inflict that lesson, and there's a very painful
- 25:41Speaker 6: lesson for people around the world, for people in America,
- 25:44Speaker 6: people in Iran as well, will suffer a lot. But
- 25:48Speaker 6: it seems like if they're closing the babbamn them. They've
- 25:50Speaker 6: decided that that's the only way out of the situation now.
- 25:53Speaker 6: I still always hold out hope that every escalation will
- 25:56Speaker 6: result in some sort of rapid diplomatic shift. And there's
- 26:00Speaker 6: some toxic about proposals for a new ten day deal
- 26:03Speaker 6: between the US and Iran, a pause and strikes to
- 26:06Speaker 6: talk again. We'll see how those play out, but I
- 26:10Speaker 6: think that they move by the Huti's suggest that the
- 26:13Speaker 6: odds of that are quite slim, and really everyone is
- 26:16Speaker 6: looking now towards the deterrence option, which will be very,
- 26:20Speaker 6: very painful for everybody, and could see some of those
- 26:21Speaker 6: worst case scenarios with oil take place within the next
- 26:25Speaker 6: month well.
- 26:26Speaker 2: And part of the strategy is the global economy through
- 26:29Speaker 2: the oil market, and part of the strategy for Iran
- 26:31Speaker 2: as well is making life unlivable, punishing their own neighbors
- 26:36Speaker 2: who have hosted US bases, who have allowed the US
- 26:40Speaker 2: to use their terrain to launch strikes in some instances,
- 26:44Speaker 2: who have launched strikes themselves. And as part of that,
- 26:47Speaker 2: the US is striking civilian infrastructure inside of Iran. They're
- 26:50Speaker 2: striking a desalination plant, for example, and the Iranians also
- 26:54Speaker 2: Struck a Kuwaiti desalination plant. Talk about that aspect of
- 26:57Speaker 2: things and the significance here of these water plants and
- 27:01Speaker 2: what it means for the region.
- 27:03Speaker 6: Sure, so in the Gulf Arab States, these countries are
- 27:06Speaker 6: basically not habitable without these water salination plants. It's a
- 27:10Speaker 6: very arid, very hot environment. You need packaged goods in
- 27:15Speaker 6: large numbers. You need these water treatment plants which separate
- 27:18Speaker 6: the salt from the water and make it drinkable.
- 27:22Speaker 5: They need those.
- 27:24Speaker 6: If they didn't have them effectively, you have to abandon
- 27:26Speaker 6: these countries. So they're very very important in Iran, In
- 27:30Speaker 6: Southern Iran, it's extremely important to have these plants, and
- 27:33Speaker 6: some significant amount of the population relies in them. In
- 27:37Speaker 6: total view to the country, it's probably just a few
- 27:39Speaker 6: percentage points. They runs a very very large country. You know,
- 27:43Speaker 6: there are other sources of water. They do have water problems,
- 27:45Speaker 6: but you know, they have access to multiple bodies of water,
- 27:48Speaker 6: and a lot of their water problems are really due
- 27:50Speaker 6: to mismanagement, it seems like so as long as with
- 27:52Speaker 6: climate change, but you know, in the Gulf States it's
- 27:54Speaker 6: a much more extential problem for all the entire countries.
- 27:57Speaker 6: So if these plants were destroyed, you would have to see,
- 28:00Speaker 6: you know, abandonment of major urban centers. You have to
- 28:03Speaker 6: see maybe some countries will be literally not habitable anymore
- 28:08Speaker 6: in the short term. So it's really very serious escalation.
- 28:11Speaker 6: And I think that's also something that the Iranians have
- 28:14Speaker 6: said that if you go for us with the nuclear
- 28:16Speaker 6: option in some fashion, we can escalate to the highest
- 28:19Speaker 6: level with you. So they said that if you target
- 28:22Speaker 6: our civilian infrastructure, we will hit back proportionately, and they
- 28:25Speaker 6: did do that in Kuwait after their desalination plants were
- 28:29Speaker 6: hit in southern Iran. But I did see in the
- 28:31Speaker 6: last forty eight hours at least the US, as far
- 28:34Speaker 6: as we've seen, has not hit major civilian infrastructure in Iran.
- 28:38Speaker 6: After that they have been hit significant numbers of bridges.
- 28:41Speaker 6: No desalination plant has been hit again, at least.
- 28:44Speaker 5: In that time.
- 28:45Speaker 6: So the deterrent message of the Iranians strikes may have
- 28:49Speaker 6: been effective in that sense. So I do hope that
- 28:51Speaker 6: we don't see any more civilian infrastructure strikes because that
- 28:54Speaker 6: would trigger really really cashtraphic scenarios. And you know, if
- 28:58Speaker 6: you had a situation where you know, Dubai or cutter
- 29:02Speaker 6: or Kuwait is being literally evacuated and rendered an inhabitable.
- 29:06Speaker 6: The knock on effects for the global economy and the
- 29:08Speaker 6: US economy even the short term would be very, very
- 29:11Speaker 6: catastrophic because of the linkages there financially have been developed.
- 29:17Speaker 6: So really it's a threat to the entire world if
- 29:19Speaker 6: that would happen.
- 29:20Speaker 1: Let's put be two up there.
- 29:22Speaker 3: This is an interview that the Foreign Minister Arachi gave
- 29:26Speaker 3: to local Iranian media. Here he says that the US
- 29:30Speaker 3: made two miscalculations. They started the war. They didn't account
- 29:34Speaker 3: for resistance. Quote, the Zionist regime thought that with a
- 29:37Speaker 3: short attack they could destroy everything. When that didn't happen,
- 29:41Speaker 3: they were forced to stop the war. Something that he
- 29:44Speaker 3: expounds on pretty extensively here is specifically about the lead
- 29:49Speaker 3: up to the negotiation process and about zero enrichment and
- 29:54Speaker 3: what their goalposts that were constantly moving. We obviously covered
- 29:57Speaker 3: that extensively at the time. But then that this can
- 30:01Speaker 3: only truly end with a deal, what do you make
- 30:05Speaker 3: then of their position being where it is, and you
- 30:08Speaker 3: said previously that it's very unlikely that we actually could
- 30:11Speaker 3: be able to get a deal from mere assessment so far.
- 30:14Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Unfortunately, it's hard to see it in
- 30:16Speaker 6: the short term, and I would like to be surprised
- 30:18Speaker 6: in that term on that point. But if you look
- 30:20Speaker 6: at the situation in context, Iranian signed a deal with
- 30:23Speaker 6: the US by a decade ago.
- 30:25Speaker 5: It was a huge risk.
- 30:26Speaker 6: The people in the system were the reformers camp was
- 30:30Speaker 6: took a real big gamble and they were.
- 30:32Speaker 5: Hit really hard when the deal was violated.
- 30:34Speaker 6: By Trump and twenty eighteen and then again last year
- 30:38Speaker 6: and this year they took part in negotiations with the US.
- 30:42Speaker 6: Aragchi himself delibered a deal to the US side which
- 30:46Speaker 6: was much more generous actually than the JCPOA in terms
- 30:49Speaker 6: of US interests. Both times, in the middle of those negotiations,
- 30:53Speaker 6: Iran was attacked. And that's attacking someone and killing negotiators
- 30:57Speaker 6: is something very extreme that was not even done by
- 30:59Speaker 6: beligible parties in World War Two because it was known
- 31:02Speaker 6: to be how damaging it is. The idea of having
- 31:05Speaker 6: a deal going forward, even if it's a country you
- 31:07Speaker 6: have far more enmity with than Iran, you wouldn't do
- 31:10Speaker 6: that because you may need to talk people in the
- 31:12Speaker 6: future and you need to have a degree of trust
- 31:14Speaker 6: to make those taxs tap, so that specific principle was
- 31:17Speaker 6: attacked during these conflicts. So despite all that, they still
- 31:21Speaker 6: somehow got the MoU after a few months of fighting,
- 31:24Speaker 6: and then the MoU immediately fell apart because it was
- 31:27Speaker 6: perceived that the US, immediately after signing it didn't actually
- 31:30Speaker 6: implement the terms and then start doing things which undermined
- 31:33Speaker 6: Iranian leverage in Lebanon, and then start surging more troops
- 31:37Speaker 6: to the region. It may it really seem like they
- 31:39Speaker 6: were just preparing to the ground to attack again in
- 31:43Speaker 6: the short term or medium term, and then from the
- 31:45Speaker 6: Iranian perspective, you might as well just initiate the war
- 31:48Speaker 6: now rather than let your leverage be depreciated. So for
- 31:52Speaker 6: all those reasons, it's hard to see how the trust
- 31:54Speaker 6: gap between the two sides it gets remedied here. But
- 31:58Speaker 6: I do think that there's one specific variable in between
- 32:01Speaker 6: which is not really promising, but it could work. And
- 32:04Speaker 6: I think it's what's working right now or attempting to
- 32:06Speaker 6: be put into effect. Is if the golf Arab states
- 32:09Speaker 6: issue a veto and say no, we will not allow
- 32:12Speaker 6: our bases to be used for war anymore, we won't
- 32:15Speaker 6: allow airspace to be used because we're going to be
- 32:17Speaker 6: destroyed if the war continues. And the whole premise of
- 32:20Speaker 6: their relationship with the US was that the US will
- 32:23Speaker 6: protect them at all times. They'll make sure that they're
- 32:25Speaker 6: basically Switzerland levels of peace going on here so that
- 32:29Speaker 6: the global economy, people can invest here, people can come
- 32:32Speaker 6: and live here, and so forth. And if they can't
- 32:34Speaker 6: defend us, then the relationship doesn't really work anymore. And
- 32:38Speaker 6: what's happening is the US keeps escalating the war. They
- 32:40Speaker 6: ran and these countries are taking a million missiles to
- 32:43Speaker 6: the face and drones to the face every single day
- 32:45Speaker 6: of the day after the attacks and create a really
- 32:48Speaker 6: huge warning to Dubai and Cutter and other countries in
- 32:51Speaker 6: the region what could happen to them.
- 32:53Speaker 5: So if those countries issue a veto take really strongly
- 32:57Speaker 5: that they will not not let the war.
- 32:58Speaker 6: Continue, it very difficult for the US to continue, and
- 33:01Speaker 6: they will take a lot of the incentive for continuing out.
- 33:04Speaker 6: I don't think we're necessarily there yet, but that's the
- 33:06Speaker 6: only path that I could see that could help. And
- 33:10Speaker 6: you know, there are people in the US system, like
- 33:12Speaker 6: the more advanced camp of people who may not have
- 33:14Speaker 6: the upper hand, they could use that such a shift
- 33:17Speaker 6: to gain advantage and push forward their view of how
- 33:20Speaker 6: the war could end, because if you look at the
- 33:22Speaker 6: way the MU fell apart, it seems like the US
- 33:24Speaker 6: administration was not working on the same page. Advance seemed
- 33:28Speaker 6: to be in favor of pushing the deal forward, creating
- 33:31Speaker 6: a structure with Iran which were allowed to continue. And
- 33:34Speaker 6: then Rubio went to Lebanon and did something which really
- 33:37Speaker 6: undermined and worked at cross purposes of the deal, almost automatically.
- 33:42Speaker 6: So I think that that dynamic could be shifted if
- 33:45Speaker 6: the golf Arab states were to take a very firm,
- 33:48Speaker 6: unequivalcal position that the war cannot continue because they will
- 33:51Speaker 6: not survive if it does continue.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Lastly, maz I was wondering if you could help out
- 33:56Speaker 2: our friends over at Fox News who are a little
- 33:59Speaker 2: bit con fused about the way things have been going.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a listen to Fox host
- 34:05Speaker 2: Maria Bartiromo here and her confusion about the situation.
- 34:08Speaker 7: You know, Sentcom says that they will be outsized action
- 34:12Speaker 7: in retaliation, but I don't understand how it's possible that
- 34:15Speaker 7: Iran has the capabilities to fight this way and continue
- 34:19Speaker 7: to try to lash out at Gulf countries and US
- 34:22Speaker 7: military basis because the US has obliterated Iran's military and
- 34:27Speaker 7: the President continues to reiterate that.
- 34:31Speaker 4: Yes, and if you look.
- 34:32Speaker 8: At the numbers of missiles that they've been able to
- 34:35Speaker 8: fire off from the beginning of this war, you know,
- 34:38Speaker 8: late February, early March, and what they're able to do now,
- 34:41Speaker 8: it is very seriously degraded.
- 34:44Speaker 2: As they say, Mas, she's so close to getting it,
- 34:47Speaker 2: so close.
- 34:48Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's so funny because they keep in
- 34:51Speaker 6: the Victoria quotes there were saying that the missile capacity
- 34:54Speaker 6: has been degraded, you know, actually hiring missiles at a
- 34:57Speaker 6: steady rate after the first few days of the war
- 35:00Speaker 6: continuously because their a whole strategy of the war is
- 35:03Speaker 6: they need to fight for a very long time. It's
- 35:05Speaker 6: a war of patrician so they missiles used will be
- 35:09Speaker 6: conserved and calibrated at a certain level to preserve the
- 35:12Speaker 6: ability to fire.
- 35:13Speaker 5: For like a year or two years or something like that, indefinitely.
- 35:17Speaker 6: What the Iranian military capacity was not obliterated, but the
- 35:20Speaker 6: war they did significant damage to leadership personnel and many
- 35:25Speaker 6: dozens of people were killed. They destroyed a lot of
- 35:28Speaker 6: civilian infrastructure. The schools were destroyed, the bridges and so forth,
- 35:32Speaker 6: and some military bases were hit, but Iran's primary and
- 35:36Speaker 6: also the navy was hit very hard, which Rubio and
- 35:38Speaker 6: so forth been talking about a lot too. But Iran
- 35:40Speaker 6: was up primarily known as an air power or naval power.
- 35:43Speaker 6: It's a missile power and asymmetric warfare power. So what
- 35:47Speaker 6: they did was they built their missile bases into these
- 35:50Speaker 6: mountains into the country. So they knew that they didn't
- 35:53Speaker 6: have the ability to develop a large sophisticated air force
- 35:56Speaker 6: because they're under sanctions. They don't have access to the
- 35:59Speaker 6: huge supply chain you need to build F thirty five
- 36:01Speaker 6: or sixteen's. They also can really build high tech air
- 36:05Speaker 6: defenses for the same reason. But they did know that
- 36:07Speaker 6: they had geography as a tool, and they had a
- 36:10Speaker 6: very very large educated population of engineers and so forth,
- 36:13Speaker 6: So they relied on tunneling and and neeering build bases
- 36:17Speaker 6: into these mountains, underground and so forth that will be
- 36:20Speaker 6: impervious to US air attacks. And they've been firing from
- 36:24Speaker 6: those bases throughout the war, and that's where they're firing
- 36:26Speaker 6: from today and the US air attacks. It's really unfortunate
- 36:29Speaker 6: if you think about the US conservation of US power,
- 36:32Speaker 6: because they effectively did was in the early days of
- 36:34Speaker 6: the war, they fired very expensive, very rare standoff munitions
- 36:39Speaker 6: which take years to produce, and they fired them basically
- 36:42Speaker 6: into solid granite. And at most what they did was
- 36:45Speaker 6: they disabled the entrances to these bases. But then within
- 36:48Speaker 6: forty eight hours or a week, both thozers came and
- 36:51Speaker 6: reopened the entrances and build bases are operating again. So basically,
- 36:54Speaker 6: you fired the extremely valuable missiles you need to deter
- 36:59Speaker 6: China and to deter Russia and so forth, fired into
- 37:03Speaker 6: rock basically just to delay Iranian missile capacity. And what
- 37:06Speaker 6: the Iranians did over the past month during the ceasefire,
- 37:10Speaker 6: but more than a month, they excavated all the bases,
- 37:13Speaker 6: so their bases are operating in the level they have
- 37:15Speaker 6: been operating at.
- 37:16Speaker 5: Since the start of the war.
- 37:17Speaker 6: Now, so that's why you see these missile strikes being
- 37:20Speaker 6: so effective. And now also the US capacity, and I
- 37:23Speaker 6: mentioned earlier the radars in the region have been destroyed
- 37:26Speaker 6: or rendered inoperable, so the missiles are gang through further,
- 37:30Speaker 6: So what they're saying in the conversation.
- 37:31Speaker 5: It's really they've been lied to.
- 37:33Speaker 6: About the actual reality of how the war has been fought,
- 37:36Speaker 6: how much damage is done to Iran, how much capacity
- 37:38Speaker 6: Iran had, and how much waste was actually done during
- 37:43Speaker 6: the war. They just spent a lot of very vital
- 37:47Speaker 6: the US sets to delay and temporarily suppressed Irani missile fire,
- 37:52Speaker 6: did not destroyed because it's deep underground where it really
- 37:55Speaker 6: cannot be neutralized from the air.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of American arrogance at play here,
- 37:59Speaker 2: not recognizing Iran as a significant industrial power, and Iran
- 38:04Speaker 2: is a significant scientific and technological power as well, and
- 38:07Speaker 2: that is certainly coming back to bite us now, Martaza,
- 38:10Speaker 2: great to see you, Thank you so.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Much, Thanks man.
- 38:12Speaker 5: Thanks guys goo' see.
- 38:15Speaker 2: So let's dig in deeper now to the global market
- 38:18Speaker 2: and oil specific perspective. We brought the news earlier that
- 38:22Speaker 2: the Houthies have announced a blockade of Saudi Arabia. John
- 38:26Speaker 2: Meerschremmer is just speaking to Chris Hedges about how significant
- 38:30Speaker 2: it would be if this action were taken to.
- 38:33Speaker 4: The global markets.
- 38:34Speaker 2: He in fact predicted just days ago that the Iranians
- 38:36Speaker 2: would be very interested in moving this direction. Let's take
- 38:39Speaker 2: a listen to what he had to say.
- 38:40Speaker 9: There were about twenty million barrels per day coming out
- 38:46Speaker 9: of the Golf on February twenty seventh. You know, when
- 38:49Speaker 9: people talk about twenty percent of the world's oil came
- 38:52Speaker 9: out of the Golf, that twenty percent represents about twenty
- 38:54Speaker 9: million barrels. And since the War star we've devolved to
- 39:02Speaker 9: a situation where seven million barrels are still coming out
- 39:08Speaker 9: of Saudi Arabia and the UAE combined. So it's only
- 39:13Speaker 9: in my opinion, about thirteen million barrels that have been
- 39:19Speaker 9: bottled up in the Gulf. Now we're those seven million
- 39:23Speaker 9: barrels coming out of. One is that Saudi Arabia is
- 39:29Speaker 9: sending probably somewhere on the order of five million barrels
- 39:33Speaker 9: out through the Red Sea, not through the Strait of Hormuz,
- 39:38Speaker 9: and I would guess that the UAE is sending out
- 39:41Speaker 9: close to two million barrels from Fujyra, which is a
- 39:46Speaker 9: UAE port on the Gulf of Oman. In other words,
- 39:49Speaker 9: it's outside of the Strait of Hormuz. So you have
- 39:53Speaker 9: this roughly seven million barrels of oil. Seven million out
- 39:58Speaker 9: of the original twenty million that are still coming out
- 40:01Speaker 9: of the Persian Gulf. I think the Iranians have a
- 40:06Speaker 9: vested interest in shutting down the flow of oil through
- 40:11Speaker 9: the Red Sea, that's the Saudi Arabian oil, and shutting
- 40:16Speaker 9: down Fugyra. And there's some evidence they've already shut down Fugyra.
- 40:20Speaker 2: So, Sager, we've been talking about why there hasn't been
- 40:23Speaker 2: a complete disaster in the oil market. I mean, prices
- 40:26Speaker 2: are already pretty high. They're back up over four dollars
- 40:29Speaker 2: a gallon for American consumers today. But one of the
- 40:33Speaker 2: reasons why there's been a bit of a cushion is
- 40:35Speaker 2: because Saudi has been able to export.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Some through the Red Sea.
- 40:40Speaker 2: That plus China has reduced their imports significant when we
- 40:43Speaker 2: would talk more about that in a moment, But if
- 40:46Speaker 2: that piece is going away, that could be highly significant,
- 40:49Speaker 2: especially as we're sort of scraping the bottom of the
- 40:51Speaker 2: barrel here in terms of our strategic petroleum reserve.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just like lay out the picture.
- 40:55Speaker 3: There's like two main reasons why gas is still not
- 40:58Speaker 3: at catastrophic levels. Although, oh, let's put see one up
- 41:01Speaker 3: here on the screen. I mean, as of this morning,
- 41:03Speaker 3: gas is right back to four dollars a gallon nationally,
- 41:06Speaker 3: So it's not like, you know, people got a little
- 41:08Speaker 3: bit of a reprieve around, Like I think the lowest
- 41:10Speaker 3: we saw I was like three eighty maybe three ninety.
- 41:12Speaker 4: Wonder per gown there. How the Freedom Fuel Network is
- 41:14Speaker 4: doing this morning?
- 41:15Speaker 3: Yeah, we should check in, We should check in on
- 41:17Speaker 3: the Freedom Fuel Network. But we have four dollars a
- 41:18Speaker 3: gallon here nationally, and that's where things are now when
- 41:21Speaker 3: things have been cooled off. So there are two primary
- 41:24Speaker 3: reasons that things did not go absolutely catastrophic. One was
- 41:27Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, as you just said, approximately four point five
- 41:30Speaker 3: million barrels per day that were coming out of the
- 41:33Speaker 3: Bob Albumande Strait that they were able to export. That's
- 41:36Speaker 3: roughly three to four percent of the world's oil supply,
- 41:38Speaker 3: which the Hooties now say they will blockade. And I
- 41:41Speaker 3: do think it's worth meditating on this, like why should
- 41:42Speaker 3: we even ticket Seriously, immediately, you know, I was looking
- 41:45Speaker 3: here for the reaction. I was like, wow, this is
- 41:47Speaker 3: a literal nightmare scenario. Of course, there's a lot of
- 41:49Speaker 3: people they're like, well, that would only assume that they
- 41:52Speaker 3: have the ability to do so, and I'm like, they
- 41:54Speaker 3: do have the ability to do so they did it.
- 41:56Speaker 1: They literally did this years ago.
- 41:58Speaker 3: We bombed that living hell out of them, and we
- 42:00Speaker 3: still were not able to stop the blockade. We both
- 42:03Speaker 3: Biden and Trump expended a serious amount of munitions, and
- 42:07Speaker 3: you know how the hoo Theis responded. They were able
- 42:10Speaker 3: to do so, and they even clipped an F thirty five,
- 42:12Speaker 3: let's not forget about that. So these are not just
- 42:14Speaker 3: some guys you know with RPGs in a cave like
- 42:17Speaker 3: this is some seriously capable gorilla force.
- 42:21Speaker 2: It also doesn't take that much because you're relying on
- 42:24Speaker 2: commercial shippers. I mean you've had sailors on these cargo
- 42:28Speaker 2: ships who have been killed, yeah many, And then you
- 42:30Speaker 2: have the insurance companies that are also saying, no, we're
- 42:32Speaker 2: not going to ensure your cargo ship going through this
- 42:36Speaker 2: active war zone where a blockade.
- 42:38Speaker 4: Has been imposed.
- 42:39Speaker 2: So you kind of have you know, capitalism working against
- 42:42Speaker 2: you here as well. There's not going to be willing
- 42:43Speaker 2: to take the risk. And who could blame them. I mean,
- 42:45Speaker 2: if you're a sailor, one of these working classmen from
- 42:49Speaker 2: around the world who are staffing these ships, you want
- 42:52Speaker 2: to risk your life to run the blockade. I don't
- 42:55Speaker 2: think so, not at all. And you've had captains who
- 42:58Speaker 2: have actively been their companies that hey, you're going to
- 43:00Speaker 2: take this route and they said, no, I'm not doing that.
- 43:03Speaker 4: So we will see some of that as well, exactly.
- 43:05Speaker 3: And then the secondary is China, and this is one
- 43:08Speaker 3: of the main focuses that we want to show over
- 43:10Speaker 3: and one let's put C two up here. For example,
- 43:12Speaker 3: Chinese imports are beginning to rebound sharply.
- 43:16Speaker 1: So why does this matter.
- 43:17Speaker 3: As you guys can see from this chart if you're watching,
- 43:21Speaker 3: is that China was importing roughly twelve million barrels per
- 43:26Speaker 3: day right before the beginning of the war. That plummeted
- 43:30Speaker 3: below six million barrels per day after the outbreak of
- 43:34Speaker 3: the war.
- 43:34Speaker 1: Nobody really knows why.
- 43:36Speaker 3: The general theory is that when oil was cheap, they
- 43:39Speaker 3: stocked up. They have a massive strategic petroleum reserve. But
- 43:43Speaker 3: one of the things that we kept hammering home here
- 43:45Speaker 3: is eventually they will have to buy some oil. They
- 43:49Speaker 3: may not resume the full twelve million barrel per day
- 43:51Speaker 3: purchase that they were at, but a resumption in their
- 43:54Speaker 3: price because of their sheer size for a massive oil
- 43:58Speaker 3: importing nation, means it will put significant significant pressure on
- 44:02Speaker 3: the global oil market. Oil is a global commodity, at
- 44:05Speaker 3: least for now before things get totally catastrophic and you
- 44:08Speaker 3: have to start doing crazy stuff. Well with the Chinese imports,
- 44:11Speaker 3: let's put C three back there on the screen. It
- 44:14Speaker 3: is the single most determinative factor whenever it comes to
- 44:18Speaker 3: the global oil market. And so if you have two
- 44:21Speaker 3: primary shocks that are already coming into a shocked system,
- 44:26Speaker 3: and what I mean by that is the five month
- 44:27Speaker 3: closure of the Strait of hormones or at least disruption
- 44:30Speaker 3: of the Strait of hormones, then you have the Red
- 44:32Speaker 3: Sea and then you have China. That is primarily why
- 44:35Speaker 3: oil is not at two hundred dollars per barrel.
- 44:38Speaker 1: But if it resumes buying.
- 44:42Speaker 3: Quote, if China buys oil again with Gusto, and this
- 44:45Speaker 3: is when prices were in the sixty dollars range, he predicted.
- 44:49Speaker 3: This is Javier Blosso's the chief energy commodities analysts over
- 44:53Speaker 3: at Bloomberg. He said it would push the price to
- 44:55Speaker 3: eighty dollars a barrel, so twenty dollars a barrel rise
- 44:59Speaker 3: just a resumption of oil. So just to give a Matt,
- 45:02Speaker 3: you know, give a picture. We are currently around ninety
- 45:05Speaker 3: as of this morning. Things are fluctuating, obviously because of
- 45:09Speaker 3: the hoo They's announcement, because of the resumption of war,
- 45:12Speaker 3: or at least seeming like there's no memorandum of understanding.
- 45:15Speaker 3: And of course a reduction in what's happening. Ninety is
- 45:18Speaker 3: where put things gas right around four dollars, but if
- 45:21Speaker 3: you go to one, ten, one, thirty, one fifty, things
- 45:25Speaker 3: can get catastrophic very quickly. And then finally, really why
- 45:29Speaker 3: you know we should pay attention is, and I said, guys,
- 45:32Speaker 3: I sent this this morning. I'm not sure which element
- 45:34Speaker 3: it is, is that what we have currently is an
- 45:37Speaker 3: incredibly low stockpile, which I know we've talked about from
- 45:41Speaker 3: the strategic Petroleum Reserve, but secondary to that is not
- 45:44Speaker 3: just the petroleum reserve. It's crude oil inventories of what's
- 45:47Speaker 3: left in the United States, the slack in the system.
- 45:50Speaker 3: So if you take a look at this picture, you
- 45:52Speaker 3: can actually see crude oil only has about forty three
- 45:56Speaker 3: days of supply left in the United States. That is
- 45:59Speaker 3: the lowest inventory in the forty five years of history
- 46:03Speaker 3: of taking all of the of taking inventories. That lack
- 46:07Speaker 3: of slack is exactly why Trump buckled in the first place.
- 46:11Speaker 3: Remember he said, I don't want to be Herbert Hoover.
- 46:14Speaker 3: That was higher than where we are today. So forty
- 46:17Speaker 3: three days left of supply. Again, I'm not an oil
- 46:20Speaker 3: commodities guy. I've tried to learn as much as I
- 46:22Speaker 3: can over the last several months. The reason I understand
- 46:25Speaker 3: it is that obviously there's you know, there's a fluctuation
- 46:29Speaker 3: in how you produce oil. It's not exactly like a
- 46:32Speaker 3: one to one business. So you need that slack to
- 46:35Speaker 3: have like confidence in the market that it'll be there
- 46:39Speaker 3: when you order what you have. When all that gets
- 46:41Speaker 3: taken away, and if it runs to zero, that's when
- 46:44Speaker 3: stuff gets absolutely bonkers. That means just like you know,
- 46:47Speaker 3: for delivery time, you know, just in time delivery, except
- 46:51Speaker 3: it would be just basically no confidence in the market.
- 46:53Speaker 3: That's when export bands and all those other things might
- 46:55Speaker 3: come into play. Literal shortages, people just running out of stuff.
- 46:58Speaker 3: And maybe this is all, you know, hyperbolic. I can
- 47:01Speaker 3: understand why someone would say that after the five months
- 47:03Speaker 3: of us talking about it, But I mean, at a
- 47:05Speaker 3: certain point, it's like this is the reason the Strategic
- 47:08Speaker 3: Patrolling Reserve existed in the first place, and to now
- 47:10Speaker 3: be at the lowest level since nineteen eighty three, you
- 47:13Speaker 3: just have no runway. And so I mean, we'll see,
- 47:16Speaker 3: that's really the only thing, because you can't look at
- 47:18Speaker 3: the current situation and say, oh, yeah, Trump is going
- 47:20Speaker 3: to blame. He definitely could at any moment, like he
- 47:22Speaker 3: did last time. I still think he probably has to,
- 47:25Speaker 3: just because of the logic of where we are. But
- 47:28Speaker 3: he got four Americans now who were killed just in
- 47:30Speaker 3: the last forty eight hours, seventy two hours something like that.
- 47:33Speaker 3: You have no you have low inventory. I mean, what
- 47:36Speaker 3: if they do ground it's possible, and if they do that,
- 47:39Speaker 3: it's it's over. There is no coming back from a
- 47:42Speaker 3: ground invasion of any kind. You can't just withdraw them
- 47:45Speaker 3: and then we take more casualties. So if we don't
- 47:48Speaker 3: talk them at least some point in the next two
- 47:51Speaker 3: three weeks, that's where we're going.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other piece we haven't even mentioned,
- 47:56Speaker 2: which is Ukraine is hitting Russian oil infrastructure as hard
- 47:59Speaker 2: as they possible we can to try to, you know,
- 48:02Speaker 2: create pain for the Russians, but inherently that's going to
- 48:05Speaker 2: create more pain for the global economy because these markets
- 48:08Speaker 2: are all completely intertwined. So again Javier blast As Chart
- 48:13Speaker 2: of the Day. Morgan Stanley reckons more than half of
- 48:16Speaker 2: Russian oil refinery capacity is down due to Ukrainian attacks. Typically,
- 48:20Speaker 2: Russia is the world's second largest diesel exporter, normally around
- 48:24Speaker 2: eleven percent of global sea born trade. And so just
- 48:28Speaker 2: when we say it's a global commodity, what we mean
- 48:30Speaker 2: is even if you have a country that is not
- 48:32Speaker 2: directly buying oil from Russia, the fact that Russia is
- 48:36Speaker 2: producing and exporting oil is creating less pressure in the
- 48:40Speaker 2: market and keeping prices more in check because it's.
- 48:43Speaker 4: Being bought by somebody.
- 48:45Speaker 2: So when you have also these Ukrainian attacks paired together
- 48:48Speaker 2: with it looks like China's increasing their buying paired together
- 48:51Speaker 2: with Now we've got a full blockade in the in
- 48:54Speaker 2: the Strait of Horbooz. Now we've got Yemen saying, hey,
- 48:56Speaker 2: we're going to blockade Saudi Arabia in the Red See,
- 49:00Speaker 2: this is all looking very grim.
- 49:03Speaker 3: Now.
- 49:03Speaker 2: I don't think there's anyone in the world who could
- 49:05Speaker 2: say this is the moment when the shit hits the
- 49:07Speaker 2: fan right. But I keep coming back to what Trump
- 49:10Speaker 2: said when he did Taco, when he.
- 49:12Speaker 4: Said we've got a few weeks left.
- 49:14Speaker 2: He has access to presumably the best information in the world.
- 49:18Speaker 2: So if you're thinking to yourself that there's some other
- 49:21Speaker 2: rabbit that he's going to be able to pull out
- 49:23Speaker 2: of a hat to lessen the pressure in the oil
- 49:26Speaker 2: market and forestall what we know eventually at some point
- 49:30Speaker 2: is going to happen, that would be an indication to
- 49:33Speaker 2: you that he does not have another rabbit in the
- 49:35Speaker 2: hat that he can pull out. That all of the
- 49:38Speaker 2: things that could be done to keep prices as low
- 49:41Speaker 2: as possible, which ain't that low to begin with, but
- 49:43Speaker 2: as low as possible without things going to two hundred
- 49:46Speaker 2: dollars a barrel, that has all already been done. All
- 49:49Speaker 2: of those levers have already been pulled. So you know,
- 49:53Speaker 2: we know certainly the clock is ticking. And when you
- 49:56Speaker 2: go back to the Iranian strategy, this is when they
- 50:00Speaker 2: decided to move forward with negotiations and sign the MoU
- 50:03Speaker 2: This was the logic that they put forward saga that
- 50:05Speaker 2: they thought, even if you know we have some pressure
- 50:09Speaker 2: release now, as long as the clock is ticking, we
- 50:12Speaker 2: are getting closer to the time and pressure is building
- 50:15Speaker 2: to the time when there will be massive global economic fallout.
- 50:20Speaker 2: And I think if we look at that, if we
- 50:21Speaker 2: look at the fact that they were able to you know,
- 50:23Speaker 2: they were able to sell a bunch of oil, refresh
- 50:26Speaker 2: their coffers in terms of their finances, they were able
- 50:29Speaker 2: to dig out a bunch of their missile cities and
- 50:32Speaker 2: be able to prepare for the next escalatory attack.
- 50:36Speaker 4: We were not able to do the same.
- 50:38Speaker 2: You know, we didn't spin up manufacturing, we didn't referm
- 50:41Speaker 2: the bases that had been destroyed throughout the region. They
- 50:44Speaker 2: come into this new phase of the conflict actually relative
- 50:48Speaker 2: to the US much stronger than they started the war
- 50:52Speaker 2: between all of those pieces. So you know, that's the
- 50:55Speaker 2: landscape that's facing all of us right now.
- 50:56Speaker 3: I'm just looking even at the more recent strike information.
- 50:59Speaker 3: So Kuwate is getting hammered in the last like three days,
- 51:02Speaker 3: so they've had huge oil hits, water desalination, and energy.
- 51:06Speaker 3: There's pictures of backup generators that are all being driven
- 51:09Speaker 3: around in Like when you start to see the government
- 51:12Speaker 3: bring out the backup generator, not where I want to
- 51:15Speaker 3: be on the back of an eighteen wheeler truck. Well,
- 51:18Speaker 3: this country exported zero oil for thirty days. That's three
- 51:22Speaker 3: percent of the total supply of the world, five point
- 51:25Speaker 3: six percent of the entire global oil reserve, much of
- 51:29Speaker 3: which the production had to be taken offline because they
- 51:31Speaker 3: literally couldn't export anything. And now they're getting completely hammered
- 51:35Speaker 3: and struck in terms of their infrastructure, where even if
- 51:38Speaker 3: the war ended, now they have to rebuild it, they
- 51:40Speaker 3: have to do all this stuff to get it out there.
- 51:42Speaker 3: That's just kuwait, and then we talked about Saudi Arabia.
- 51:44Speaker 3: That's another four to five percent of the world's oil.
- 51:47Speaker 3: Will it be blockade, We'll see, right, obviously, we'll cover
- 51:49Speaker 3: it here for a couple of days. The Straight of
- 51:51Speaker 3: horn Moves is basically closed. Yesterday literally just yesterday. Another
- 51:55Speaker 3: tanker is on or sorry overnight, So while we were
- 51:58Speaker 3: all sleeping, a tanker Greek ship got hit. Apparently there's
- 52:02Speaker 3: like one Greek company which continues to try to run
- 52:04Speaker 3: the blockade. Everybody else is like, yeah, we're good, right,
- 52:07Speaker 3: And so you have a trickle of the number of
- 52:09Speaker 3: ships that are coming through, You've got ships that are
- 52:11Speaker 3: being struck, you got oil, infrastructure, water, desalination, and then
- 52:14Speaker 3: Iran has a nuclear power plant, heead, I mean, how
- 52:16Speaker 3: can you not look at all this and say we
- 52:18Speaker 3: are on the precipice Right to the Trump and Hoover
- 52:22Speaker 3: point whenever he was talking about the slack, I mean,
- 52:25Speaker 3: this is one at least benefit to the world oil
- 52:28Speaker 3: inventory and patroleum reserve, and all that is heavily documented.
- 52:33Speaker 3: You can go as we have preparing for the show.
- 52:36Speaker 3: Just go to the International Energy Agency's website.
- 52:39Speaker 1: They will show you what the strategic.
- 52:41Speaker 3: Persolu and reserve of all the participating nations is, how
- 52:44Speaker 3: much they've released and how much is left. We have
- 52:47Speaker 3: a few weeks left for what that initial strategic patrol
- 52:50Speaker 3: and reserve release is. There's basically no more oil left
- 52:53Speaker 3: in it for the critical operating levels. So there's nothing
- 52:56Speaker 3: left between crude oil inventory and the strategic patroleum reserve.
- 52:59Speaker 3: We know exacts actly where it will all come from.
- 53:01Speaker 3: You can dial things up maybe in the US. But
- 53:04Speaker 3: part of the problem too for Saudi Arabia, the closure
- 53:07Speaker 3: and for now the stoppage of straight up hornmooz oil,
- 53:11Speaker 3: is that means that this inventory will go faster Because
- 53:15Speaker 3: the Trump administration brags a lot about how we export
- 53:19Speaker 3: all this oil.
- 53:19Speaker 1: We have been exporting a absolute shit pot of oil.
- 53:22Speaker 3: But that has got to that is going to be
- 53:24Speaker 3: made up for in terms of orders from Japan, from Korea,
- 53:27Speaker 3: from all of these other nations around it. We're all
- 53:30Speaker 3: competing for our oil. And then you add Russia on
- 53:33Speaker 3: top of that for all this diesel, and then natural
- 53:36Speaker 3: gas in terms of Qatar and their inability to get
- 53:38Speaker 3: so like all of the you know, the ground is
- 53:41Speaker 3: set for a genuine crime. I mean, we're already living
- 53:45Speaker 3: in a crisis, but even more of a crisis in
- 53:47Speaker 3: my opinion, and I think especially this is just and
- 53:51Speaker 3: I try to emphasize this in our shows, but it
- 53:53Speaker 3: is genuinely important. A black swan event like a hurricane
- 53:56Speaker 3: will break us like or not just us, somewhere around
- 53:59Speaker 3: the world, who knows, some nation, tsunami, tornado, you know,
- 54:03Speaker 3: whatever they call it, the cyclone or something, it's over.
- 54:06Speaker 3: Because if you take something like that off, then the
- 54:09Speaker 3: slack for Japan, for Korea, for any these other countries,
- 54:12Speaker 3: that's when you're broken. You have nothing left to ship
- 54:16Speaker 3: you right, all of the naval assets are in the Gulf.
- 54:19Speaker 3: We didn't even bring this up in the A block
- 54:21Speaker 3: in terms of a potential crisis, A bunch of warplanes
- 54:25Speaker 3: from Germany and from rest of the world. They're going
- 54:27Speaker 3: to the Middle East, which means if some stuff kicks
- 54:30Speaker 3: off in Ukraine and Russia, we got nothing there. It's
- 54:33Speaker 3: gone same with all the carrier strike groups and all
- 54:36Speaker 3: the munitions have all been basically stripped from pey Com
- 54:39Speaker 3: or from from Korea, from all these air force bases.
- 54:43Speaker 3: There is nothing that is currently there that is not
- 54:46Speaker 3: nailed to the ground. And so that just means, like
- 54:48Speaker 3: you know, everyone thinks things will kick off with just
- 54:51Speaker 3: because of Iran. It definitely might, you know, is what
- 54:53Speaker 3: we're saying. But I actually think there will be some
- 54:55Speaker 3: Katrina style event, not maybe either here in the United
- 54:58Speaker 3: States or somewhere else in the world world, or potentially
- 55:01Speaker 3: some sort of you know, taie want situe.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Nobody knows North Thorea. It could be anything, and that.
- 55:06Speaker 3: Is what actually will break the entire system, because that's
- 55:09Speaker 3: when when you have nothing left, that's when the whole
- 55:11Speaker 3: world will change.
- 55:12Speaker 2: We are redlining the global economy right now. We are
- 55:16Speaker 2: pushing it to its absolute limits. We are taking out
- 55:20Speaker 2: any sort of slack or buffer so that if you know,
- 55:24Speaker 2: if I mean, if we just continue in this direction,
- 55:26Speaker 2: it's unsustainable. But if we have some sort of a
- 55:30Speaker 2: catastrophic weather event or other event that is unforeseen. Although
- 55:35Speaker 2: the weather events are kind of foreseen because we are
- 55:37Speaker 2: in this massive Almino cycle, but in any case something
- 55:40Speaker 2: that is unforeseen, then we will be in a world
- 55:43Speaker 2: of trouble. Last one I'll put up on the screen.
- 55:45Speaker 2: See six rent crude crossing ninety dollars a barrel. It
- 55:49Speaker 2: has now gone down to like it's at like eighty
- 55:53Speaker 2: nine this morning, eighty eight. And this is the thing
- 55:56Speaker 2: that I'm like, it makes no sense to me, right,
- 55:59Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking and all of these numbers. They're
- 56:01Speaker 2: living apparently off of the hopium of this like, oh,
- 56:04Speaker 2: there's some ten day negotiation that's going on, and so
- 56:07Speaker 2: the stock market is up and the oil prices have
- 56:09Speaker 2: ticked back down a little bit.
- 56:10Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 56:11Speaker 2: I hope, I hope their hopium is justified, but they
- 56:13Speaker 2: seem to ignore every other indicator. If there's even one
- 56:17Speaker 2: thing that's slightly positive, will be like, I think this
- 56:20Speaker 2: is going to work out, And I guess they're in
- 56:21Speaker 2: part betting on you know that all the other traders
- 56:24Speaker 2: and all of the other players will also seize on
- 56:26Speaker 2: that hopium and act accordingly. But at some point with oil,
- 56:30Speaker 2: you know, there is a reality here of what exists
- 56:33Speaker 2: and what doesn't exist, and what is getting into the
- 56:36Speaker 2: global economy and what is not. So there has to
- 56:38Speaker 2: be a reckoning at some point. It's not like you know, SpaceX,
- 56:42Speaker 2: where you can just have the theory of the possibility
- 56:44Speaker 2: indefinitely all those SpaceX is not doing all that well either, right.
- 56:47Speaker 3: But and even if we do get out of this,
- 56:49Speaker 3: we're just all going to be paying three point fifty
- 56:51Speaker 3: a gallon for forever, I mean, at this point, for
- 56:54Speaker 3: the rest of Trump's presidency. So it's not going down,
- 56:57Speaker 3: you know, significantly anytime too. Actually, even saw with the
- 57:00Speaker 3: memoriam of understanding how loaded it get three eighty right,
- 57:03Speaker 3: I mean, that's a preview of what it's going to
- 57:06Speaker 3: be like for a long long time.