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In The City Reunion Pt 1 Recap · Wicked Messy

• Hali: Hello everyone. We are back on a sunny On a sunny Saturday afternoon. Is it Saturday? Yep, it is. I don't this I thought you were gonna say I'm a mess. Did you see what I posted on social media that this week has been a fucking year? No, I think I think it said What a fucking year this week has been. I think I posted it on Thursday and then Saturday and I'm already still a mess. who else is a mess? is a mess. So I'm so sorry, Loverboy and Kyle Cook, but we did get the package yesterday, did I say? The day before. Okay, yeah. so finally they are here. Although I am kind of annoyed because like, why did we who who said that brown writing was like the most ideal? Like, why couldn't I get black? and also I just want to point out, and I know that it was we know it looked like that when we paid for it, but now that I'm thinking about it, was Amanda carrying the back of Loverboy merch? Because that's the most boring. They couldn't have done anything else anymore. Well, do you see the back? Loverboys on the back. I do like that. I like that too. Well, it should be that writing up there. Yeah, or even like at the bottom here. But I I wonder if your sweatshirt has Loverboy on the back. too it probably does. so she got a sweatshirt pink and then I got a black one that says Carl's a mess. That looks really, really nice and comfy bumpy. So I'm excited. but now we have Shark Week merch out, which I'm like, whoa, that kind of looks cool. But there's also Giggly Squad merch. And the new Daphne drop. I'm sorry, but like Paige has got to drop the prices. Like I can't I feel like I'm gonna wash those whatever I buy once and it's gonna fall to pieces. you can't wash super delicate stuff. Yeah, that's you can't wash any of that, which is so annoying. I know it's expensive. I have no business buying anything, let alone merch from people from Bravo who don't need my money. But it it's either that or I do normal shopping. So at least now I can tell myself it's for work research. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas regular shopping, I don't have an excuse. my god, we wore the same glasses, didn't I? I just realized. I'm such a mess. I I'm a mess too. Yeah, this chick just hit got over a cyclospora outbreak. That's not confirmed, guys. I think it's pretty fucking confirmed with the timing and the symptoms. The symptoms 100%. I mean, I didn't I barely it's the blueberries, dude. I'm telling you, you know how many people had blueberries? That's the only blueberries. Well, I was convinced. I was like, Well, I don't like really eat that much produce. Like I'm such an unhealthy eater. Like I would remember if I had a strawberry. but you aren't. Well, but I would remember if I had like a strawberry or something the culprits. It was the bluebs, the lettuce. No, but I forgot about the blueberries because I'm I use them every single day with my yogurt. Yeah. So I don't even think of them as blueberries anymore. They're just a cog in the fucking machine. Yeah. But let me tell ya. I I think it caught up with me. And I'm still I'm still feeling not great. I mean I feel like normal, but that's why we're recording late on a Saturday. Yeah. but everyone's like let me lose weight on it. And she said she lost four pounds in what, like two and a half days? Three days? Three days. Yeah. But yeah, it's water weight though. I know. So it's gonna be so sad when I like I haven't You're probably up like two pounds. It's a big burger. All right. The reunion. Yes, in the city reunion. kind of surprised it's two parts. Like what I saw the preview, but I'm like, this really can't be going on for another 45 minutes. How could we have anything else to talk about? Really don't. They don't deserve it. How about this? If you're put in the clubhouse, then you're not up to parts two parts. Why the f- Well, so I thought it was interesting that It couldn't even all fit there. It was stadium seating. But gave it away and said, like, hey, let's put Amanda and Kyle to bed because we're gonna come back to it later, aka like that's probably gonna be the main focus of part two, which we did see in like kind of the preview too. That like a little bit. But it's again it's just nothing new. It's not What is the what is the point going tit for tat? Like, yeah, it's it's literally stupid, but yeah, I mean I feel like it was okay the reunion, but like also I just could have done without. Yeah. We could have done without. Seriously. Very much like not super yeah, good. But so the reunion starts off with the black screen and a timestamp of June eleventh, two thousand twenty six. Yep. I feel like with Summer House and In the City and the Aftermath, like between all of that, we're seeing a lot of time stamps. And I feel like the producers are like crap, we kind of have to do this because we need to contrast against what's happening in real time with Amanda and West. Right. And honestly, I thank them for doing that. Yeah. Because I need it. I need it. Yeah we need the context. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But thought it was interesting that, you know, and I think who said it first? Was it Amanda or Kyle? They like, we're across from each other again. And like once again they're not sitting together. So it's just yeah, right. I mean they're done done by that point anyways. But It's yeah, all right. Can we talk about some outfits real quick that the people were wearing? Yeah, I think Kyle looked great. He looked great, but he looked destroyed. Yeah. Which I was I'm not confused about because I get like obviously a divorce, even if you guys are fine now, like I'm sure you're still going through it. But just thinking about like in no summer house reunion, right? We had summer house reunion after that. was like his time to shine. Like he's been booked, busy, so I was surprised to see him so sad. Because he looks happy on social media and you can't trust he was probably hung over. Yeah, that's possible too. I feel like his eyes looked a little bloodshot. So you think so? Yeah. I mean he looked like crap. But I I just kind of figured maybe he'd be smart enough not to drink before reunion. Who knows? I don't think he has that. I do want to say Lexi's top was so cute. A black halter top. She was with her. Maybe it was a dress with the gems, the silver gems. I was obsessed. It does not fit her personality. I don't even know who convinced her to wear that, but it actually made me like her more. Maybe she's feeling like cause she's pregnant, she's like, I'm just gonna right. Change it up a little bit. You know what I mean? And I'm glowing, and maybe the gems will make me glow more. It gave her a little bit of an edge. Yeah. I love it. Like I really like that for you. But she didn't really say much here in this reunion. But Lindsay was interesting, and I have this written down kind of later because there was a comment about what she was wearing, that she was wearing this beautiful dress, this minion yellow dress, which I was like, You just anywhere you can get it in, you're gonna stick it and turn it. I had a conspiracy. A soup sporing one, but a conspiracy nonetheless. Yeah. So let's fast let's rewind to the summer house reunion in the very beginning when Amanda came out and Lindsay said, Hey Amanda with your butter yellow dress. yeah. And it was a moment. And I even said on that episode here that I thought it was on and I couldn't put my finger on it. I was like, What was that? Now I'm thinking, I wonder if because obviously the network knew that they would have to push the minions. Yeah. So before In the City even starts, Lindsay knows that that's a thing. Right. By the time the summer house reunion Was airing. Yep. Lindsay one thousand percent had already picked out her dress for the in the city reunion. Definitely. So I feel like they both knew like for this reunion you're gonna wear this, that reunion we're gonna wear that and we just didn't get it until now. Yeah because it now cause now I can see it was kind of an ode. Yeah. She she was like, you're you know, butter yellow drip like conspiracy. I'm surprised that Amanda didn't make a comment to her like in the beginning. I think she's yeah, she is. She absolutely is. She looked a thousand times better in this reunion. Yeah, she wasn't on the Xanax that time. Yeah. Which we'll get we'll we'll get to the we'll get to the because I actually that brings me back to the timestamp, but I digress. We'll get to that. Yeah. But with her hair and makeup, wasn't it giving you very much so? And I actually don't mean this in a snarky way. very 2013. Yeah. The side part with like the lacy dress. Well, and she made a point to say I did all this. So you can't blame anyone else. Right. Because she had that did someone else do her hair for the other re what hairdressed. Yeah, that half bun thing. Which I don't even actually believe because that's like her staple. Like she loves to do that half bun. Yeah. Why would a why would anyone agree to do that anyway? That'd be like you want to you want that dress with that dilapidated thing on your head? And honey, that's what you got flack on? That's what you took away from the reunion? Like, I don't think that's what people were focused on, honey bunny. Like Sit down. yeah. one last comment on people's looks. Georgina's dress. that was pretty. But that was I that actually was giving me PTSD from 2009. Like I think I actually wore something very similar to like a school dance. Yeah, it was kind of like a like a like a homecoming type dance. Yeah, dress. No, you're right, you're right. But I still liked it. It was cute, but she looked good, but I don't I just don't like her. Well, I don't like her, so I even no, I would never wear that dress in real time, but it was cute, but she can do nothing right right now. But again, like they're dressing up for the clubhouse. It's so yikes. I know. It's so yikes. I know. so Andy pretty much starts off immediately circling back from the summer house reunion over to Amanda at the in the city reunion, asking her things that we wanted to hear from the horse's mouth, pretty much. Yeah. Abs well no, he actually starts off with asking Amanda about West and calling her out for that picture that was posted about her spitting in his mouth and like her responses, it was an olive. As if that's like still not absolutely disgusting. You don't think your spit is on that olive that then is transferred? Like you're still spitting in his mouth. Like what are you doing? Well, I mean if they're having sex. Okay, here's the thing. Yeah, but here's the thing. It okay. For her to like try to make that as her defense is embarrassing, but I will say there is a difference between spinning in someone's mouth at a restaurant, that's fucking weird. Yeah. Being like cutesy playful, thinking no one can see you you're in a different country, and that actually sounds like sounds like a fun game. I'd actually participate. Not with Wes Wilson, that's for sure. Not not when I'm on max scrutiny across the I don't I don't know. But that's not Weird, but who does that when you're going through a PR crisis? Exactly. And you're in Italy. Like, stop it. The Italians don't want to see that. Well, definitely don't do that to them. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? I'm so I'm surprised Andrea wasn't like that. It's not proper etiquette. my god, right? I hate to hear his that's such a good point. Yeah. okay, but I do want to say he also asked her about her disposition at the reunion. He did. Well, he called it chemically disengaged. I was like, That is amazing. Is that like a do people say that? No. it's just that. It seemed like he made it up on the spot too. He like thinking, he's like, how can I say this without saying like you were fucked up on a benzo? Yeah. No. I loved that from Annie. He's so good. He's he's really, really good. But so she Why are we still calling it beta blockers though? Well, that's the thing. Well she's a fucking liar. Is she forgetting that the whiteboard video came out in West? But that brings me to my point. We need to find out when the whiteboard video happened because that was the this this month, wasn't it? Or the end of It was in June. But I'm end of June, I think it was. So if it was the end, so that makes sense. Because if this was on June 11th, if the video had already come out, then Andy could have been like, so saw the video, it was Xanax. But I don't could he actually bring that into a Bravo reunion and and say like these guys. I like do they ever refer to like I don't know. You know what I mean? Like accounts and stuff like because he never says like the Bravo betches or like whatever the other Bravo reality accounts. Like I feel like that's just not a thing. Yeah. Cause then someone might come to Bravo and say, Well, you should pay me because you now you're using like my Yeah stuff. That I mean, yeah, that could that could be That could be an issue. Yeah. but yeah, she's completely lying. And then she so this is something I picked up on when she was Talking about this because she said her instinct is typically in conflict to shut down and disassociate. Okay. But then, and I don't want to jump ahead, but she then later says her instinct is to act defensive. And how many times have we seen her pop off on Kyle? You're not shutting down and disassociating all the time, honey. No, it's like a The 4060. Yeah. Like it's it goes both ways for sure. She's a liar. I just she was definitely on the Xanax. She probably took the beta too. Whatever. But you West already ratted you out. Like, just stop. I know. And that's I'd be pissed if I were her too, because it's like, okay, if you're admitting you were on Xanax, you're admitting we were on Xanax. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But I will say, Danielle kind of piped up here when This whole conversation about West came up and everything that happened, and she used the word, the D word, disappointment. The D word from D. And I was like, fuck yes. And I couldn't really tell from Amanda's face what she was thinking or feeling. I thought she'd honestly be a little bit more angry and like, shut the fuck up, because I don't even like you. She wasn't. In Kyle's own words, she took it on the chin and she Really did. She really did. She knew she had to though. This was her like opportunity. You could tell that she understood the assignment when she got to aftermath episodes. Yeah. And like this was just probably a piece of cake for her. They probably filmed those things a few days. There was a timestamp on that one too. I just can't remember it. Right. But she also made comments about that her and West are not really going out still. So on June 11th, you still weren't going out. That's not true. You actually were going out. Like you guys were seen out quite a bit. But then that question comes up, are you in love? And she's stumbling over her words and she's like You think that they would have prepared a response for this by now. But again, West in the whiteboard video says, like, we've been saying I love you for a very long time. And he also blows up the entire timeline and says it's way earlier than what it was. And it was there was a crossover and the texting emotional affair was happening, and she's still sitting here on June eleventh. Saying it wasn't. Yeah, that was that's true. I just can't. I just she just my god We'll never. I it's gonna be a very long I until one of them breaks up with the other one and the other is scorned, we're not gonna get the full story until that happens. Right. Well, we know the we everyone knows we don't need them to tell us a story. Of course, you guys have been doing this way, like I don't need anyone to tell me that. But it would be nice to see them turn on each other. It'd be nice for Kyle to get some. Piece. Absolutely. Absolutely. Screw him too for all he's done. But Amanda's got her piece though. Well that's Amanda's tried to do during this was to flip the whole thing onto Kyle. Well, at first it starts by her just like bragging about Wes saying how supportive he's been. And that was fucked up because Kyle has been the most supportive. Like that is not a word you can use for Kyle. Let me know when he does your taxes, negotiates a brand deal, and makes your bed. The bed killed. And then he said, I'm still supporting you. I'm still despite you just fucked me over publicly with one of my good friends. But I I was floored when Kyle was asked, Who do you feel more betrayed by? Amanda or West? And he said West. And I'm like, dude, what? Ten years with Amanda? And you feel more betrayed by West? He's a fuck boy. What I think I guess broco. I I still I am gonna assume it's because he at this point has so much hate for Wes. Yeah, that it's like that's not obviously that's not true, but there's just so much animosity. That's what I'm guessing. Cause there's no how the fuck could you until you realize like you and Amanda's friendship is not gonna be what you think it is, he's still protecting her. Even when he's dipping her in the fire a little bit, I mean he could incinerate her. So he's not. I have a conspiracy. I'm sure that this ties into I can't go too hard on Amanda because we're going to be in a courtroom at one point getting a divorce. And I don't want to muddy the water at all because I don't want them to come bite me in the ass and her be resentful and want to try and fuck me over and take my money and my business. Why hasn't no one said that yet? I don't know. That just hit me because of my own life. Holy shit though, right? Right. you that's the first take I've heard of That's crazy. And it's all makes sense. It's almost obviously because the whole time I'm like, how is he not pulling out his hair like I hate you? I don't even want to be in a stage with you. Yeah. What? Yeah, it'll make sense. Dude, that is a great point because it just yeah. I mean and I don't know what New York laws are like, but Well, I'm assuming they're all we'll find out, I guess, once it happens. If they do get divorced, that's the craziest thing. I haven't heard one divorce word. No. Like Nothing's filed, nothing. No, I think that they're a far way away. Because I think it's wild. But you know what? It would make s I mean, probably behind the scenes, him and Amanda are looking at each other saying, Listen, I think we're about to like save lover boy and shit. So if we can just sell it before we get divorced, we don't need to worry about any of that. Right. Then we can split it up on our own. We don't have to worry about the court. Yeah. No, no, no. That that that's true. That's true. But is she still working there now? So is he gonna say, like, hey, you're not entitled to this stuff? Because you're not, you kinda. I don't think that she I don't think that she wants any of it. I guarantee he would probably give her a little something. Yeah. I think that he's above anything else a very, very, very, very good businessman. Very much. And if it is not moving along, it is for a very specific reason that he's looked at from every fucking angle. Of course. You know? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So back to the support thing, because I have a a direct quote. Okay. So Kyle says, and he was like almost crying when he said it. This actually hurt. He said, How could he even say that I don't support you? And he's broken. He's saying to this day he's still doing things for her, just really confirming things that we already assumed. Amanda tries to clarify and she mumbles, quote unquote, of how he's more supportive, okay, quote unquote. How West is, yeah. The way that he talks to me and tells me, it's just like his actions, just the way. Just the way it's different. That's a word for word. I can't. What kind of answer is that? She's brainwashed. She's she's drinking the West Kool-Aid. Nick piped up, which I think it was the only thing he said on this whole reunion. And he was like, Wait, Amanda, you don't see how like West is Kyle times ten as like worse than Kyle. And she had nothing to say. So like I was like, go Nick. Yeah. That was good. Your one liner. That's good. but she's still denying the overlap. She's fucking and then she she said something so bizarre about like I'm so I'm proud of him for having sober sex. And I'm like, this is just so weird. Like you're just weird. Yeah, when it was revealed that Kyle told Amanda that he had had sober sex and she was like proud with like tears in her eyes. I'm confused because obviously, Amanda, the only sex that you guys were ever having, if ever, was sober. Right. So is there 'cause she didn't want him to Is there a story behind this? Is he having trouble getting it up when I thought it was the opposite? I thought when you drank that happened, you couldn't. So what is I think I think maybe for some guys it is the opposite. But it also could be that he wasn't really still in love with her and like that wasn't it didn't feel the s I don't know. I don't know. I thought well, I need to know more about that because that was the most bizarre. Yeah. andy did also bring up though, Lala saying Kyle was a killer in bed. Yeah. And he said, Yeah, I think it was Sally. But then Amanda tried to pounce and said, Well, how many people know that, Kyle? Why would she say that, Kyle? And Kyle's like, dude, it was Sally. Like, we've already had this conversation. Like, why are you trying to make this look like there's like 18 other people? But she did mention there's a girl, what, 10 years younger or 10 years older that he fucked, or and then some other chick. younger than her? Yeah. I'm like, what? What's going on? It's like this is not to bash Kyle. What the what was your like and and the thing is just sit tight. His time is coming. No one comes out unscathed. And now all we see is you trying to deflect. Kyle's gonna get his Andy's not letting anyone off the hook. Exactly. So you're trying to like put his feet to the fire. It's like now you just look bad. Kyle's gonna get it. And now Kyle didn't even get it because you tried to give it to Kyle. Exactly. And now Kyle's gonna get nothing. And he's walking away scot-free, lapping his way to the bank. Yep. A hundred percent. And then so this is when Andy kind of shuts this down and says, like, hey, let's put this to bed because we're gonna come back to it. So that's gonna come back up. And then we get over to Lindsay, shifts to Lindsay. And the milkman comes up right away. Andrea got this big friggin' goofy smile on, being like, they're still going strong. And I'm like, wait, what? So I told you, like in the car and the apple picking, they were on the phone together. So I don't know. He's like in the background and she I think is just like a cat with a ball of yarn. Like I don't want commit, but like I'm gonna keep you close. But did you hear what Yvonne said? she doesn't like it. She said, well, Milkman loves reality stars because Andy was like, you know, I met him through Kelly Dodd. Through Kelly Dodd. Yikes. Yeah. But Yvonne, why are you making that like passive aggressive statement? He loves reality. If she's into him and like seeing him still dating, why are you I don't because he's just he's he is. I gotta warn your not like the milkman. I'd I'd worry Lindsay too. But the thing is She would chew him up and spit him out. I know. Why is anyone worried about Lindsay with Frank the milkman? Exactly. It's Frank. Now listen, she is But she does kind of get in with these guys. Hard exterior, soft on the inside. Exactly. I don't think she fucks with him. No. She's not gonna let anyone hurt her that she doesn't fucking care. And we'll get to that later with what Well, well, I don't know. I I'd probably say she does get hurt quite often, but she she now knows I can't really show that because I have to keep out keep this exterior out, you know? And well, Lindsay herself said she's not ready. I'm not ready to settle down. Yeah. She said that like three times. I'm like, where's the lie detector? I know. I'm like, honey, what do you mean? Stop saying that. Who doesn't want a family? It's not there's nothing wrong with saying that. Exactly. And then Andy brings up baby daddy. Yeah. So when asked, you know, is co parenting going well? She answers quickly. Very quick short and says he's a great dad. And she he's a great father. He's a great dad. Yeah. He's a great father. I was like, woo! And then she's like, I hope he's getting laid because everyone's nicer. So everyone's happier when they get laid. Yeah. That got a laugh out of me. Me too. Because I'm like, it must be tough. And Anzi took that. He said, yep. Okay. You know what I was thinking about? How we went through his whole like employment and everything and how he works for Turner Koof. Isn't that his name? Well, I know that Turner's his name. I don't know what his last name is, but I think it is. So then that's his own. Company. So he's way richer than we would. Rich motherfucker. Do you know that this guy, he him and Lindsay used to date when they were younger? really? This is an ex that she reconnected with Carl. I know. And he probably was like, listen, you're more famous, you're beautiful. And I think because they haven't dated since like whoa forever ago. He probably was like, all right, because Lindsay's fun and she's the type of girl you want to be around with when she's bubbly. It's like do we know that? Because that's what we see on reality TV. What? That she's actually like that fun. Because being the guy with her isn't like that. No, I mean like at first, you know. Yeah, yeah. It's like this fun. She's the cool girl. She's chill. Everything's like, you know, she understands. It's like cool. And I think, you know, when he reconnected after not seeing her forever, she had looked better than ever, all this shit, you know. And she's fun, Lindsay. And he's like, damn, why did I ever break up with you? Right. You're hot as hell. We have a great time in bed. You're funny. You're you're smart. You got your own money. But then inevitably the other shoe always drops. When you try to be the cool girl, you get nothing at all. And then there's no prizes. And then you get pregnant. And then you have this added pressure. And if there's already some pressure, that's just gonna explode and it's not gonna work out, I feel like. And then you got Whitney saying, You got a nanny. So all this led to that. Okay. Danielle refuses to comment on Lindsay's relationship status. I was like, good for you, girl. Lindsay got a kick out of it. She did. I'm like, are you guys actually cool now? Like I don't get it. Maybe because she's pregnant. So Lindsay's like, Okay, I kinda like you now because there's a child growing inside of you. Agreed. Agreed. but speaking of going back to that, sorry, real quick. In the beginning, they all said their due date. And so I think Lexi's September second. Yvonne's like September fifth or seventh. No, no, no, fifth. Yeah. And then and then Danielle was supposed to be Labor Day. And when did she have her baby? That was June? So her baby came three months early? Yeah. Yeah. Looks like the baby's doing good though. That's getting bigger and stronger. Yeah. but yeah, now we shift to Kenny. and Lindsay can't shut her mouth. my God. So Andy says that Kenny caught a lot of smoke. For moving Whitney to New York City with no ring or closet. We're getting all the flashbacks of Lindsay and Kenny arguing. We have, you know, the whole murky gate, Andrea getting upset in Italian, all those flashbacks. Okay. Yeah. Kenny says that Lindsay was upset about the argument that they had had about Whitney having no ring and going to New York all season long. And calling him a fuckboy. All season long. And it's like you guys are both going after each other. Yeah. Because tell me how you guys are going after each other like cats and dogs. And then next thing you know, you're planning a trip together and then back to hating each other. But then also on this reunion, like kind of not. Like some points were like a little bit like I don't like you, and we're kind of arguing, but then it's like we're laughing at each other and smiling at each other. So I'm like, I'm I'm so confused right now. I don't know what's real. I don't know what's fake. Yeah. It's actually very confusing. Very. Although I do think that she like hates him. But I would think Kenny would hate her. She's hating on his fucking girlfriend left and right in real life on social media everywhere. Like it's non-stop. I mean, you shouldn't be smiling at this girl. I'm sorry. I mean, honestly, Lindsay is making no sense during this argument. my god, I know. And he's the only one that's making any sense. And she just she's like blacking out being like, let me know when I can finish. Let me know when I can finish. She's like, You're gaslighting me, you misogynistic, narcissistic. I'm like, Can you chill the fuck? No, I'm like, put the thesaurus. Thesaurus. Thesaurus. Is that thesaurus? Thesaurus. Thesaurus. Put the the thorin down. my god. but when he was speaking up, little chirp chirp chirp in the back. She is done with Lindsay's mind. And she was not backing down. She had a good poker face. She didn't look angry. She didn't have any creases or wrinkles showing because she was like, I don't like what you're saying. And you should shut up. And what Lindsay doesn't know is She should be more scared of Whitney than anyone because Whitney has something that she will never possess. And it is the ability to keep her shit together when she's taking someone down. That is so much more effective than what Lindsay's doing. she was so activated, it was insane. And I didn't know that she had it in her, but Whitney did it. Because it is one thing to say things, you know, say it with your chest, but it's another thing to be that elegant to poised. Very poised. Yes. And so, like this whole thing comes up about the spark. game of telephone when that was like skewed a little bit from the convo that Kenny and Kyle had. And then it it seemed like Kenny was defaulting to grieving ab over his mom and how that was connected to he wasn't ready for a long term commitment or was unsure of a long term commitment. And I'm sitting here like, if anything, when you are grieving, especially a main like a parent especially You actually get closer to the people that are supporting you. So I actually didn't really understand that connection. And I was like, this seems like a little bit of a cop out. And you're trying to like pull on heart strings so that people are like, you're not an asshole. And like I can see that. You know what I mean? I'm like, how do you stop saying the grief word, please, please. And then says it a lot. And it's I'm sure that he was. It's probably something that he's we'll never get over. But right. But just stop. Just take accountability. Right. Another buzzword. Exactly. And did you hear under Lindsay's breath? She made a little comment. It was nothing like it was like while he was explaining like this whole thing with the long term commitment and and he I forget who was sitting next to her. Gavin. Amanda. And was it Gavin or was it Amanda? No, I think it was Amanda, because then it was Gavin, I think. But anyway, she was talking probably both of them. Yeah. And she said she has a tutorial on how to make toast about Whitney. Does she? Doing I don't know, I gotta find it now. If she does, that's I get it first. I know. But like who cares? Like it's social media. Like everyone's doing that bullshit. That's true, that's true. that's yikes. That's reels. That's how you get the views. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean Lind and Lindsay, what weren't you it was only Lindsay girl, it was only a few years ago that you were taking all of like the vibrator Ads on Instagram. Yes. Okay. It was not that far off. Everything. So move up to like her T mobile ones and everything like that. Like you gotta start somewhere, honey. What are you hating for? Yeah, it's you're in the same business. And this girl's gonna run right past you. I know. She's gonna run right past you. She's gorgeous, she's sweet, she doesn't get activated, like you said. Like she's she's profitable. She's willing to take your spot. And she will, and she will. my god though, wait, really quick with Whitney. when Andy was like, Whitney, what do you think about Jasmine from the Valley saying on Watch What Happens live that you are the thirsty So you know that Jasmine was on The Bachelor? She was on Nick Vial's season trying to date him. my god, I did not know that because I watched Nick Vial's season. Physically attacked him on camera. What? I guess. So something something happened. It wasn't that that sounds really aggressive. But it was hands were thrown. So he was talking about it on his podcast when season one of the valley came out, and he's like, I can't believe that she's going after Danny when she literally did that to me on camera. But also how is she now going after Whitney when she did the same thing? Right. You're on the valley now and you were on the What the Fuck? That's what I'm saying. That's the kettle call in the last black. Isn't it crazy? Jesus, yeah. I don't know how I don't like Jasmine at all. I don't stand her. gosh, no, I don't. I love her wife though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so sweet. She's like normal. She wait way too way too for that. I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing? but the Pitbull came back during this whole Whitney, Kenny, Lindsay, Georgina. She's like, right in the back. She won't shut up. my god. She's just like, Lindsay, you're fighting. Let me join. And and right around when that happened is when it actually hit me, I got a good look and I was like, Wait, Gavin's over there and Kenny's over there. True. That's when it hit me. I was like, I didn't even think about this as not. But I felt like they were making eye contact and I did feel like Gavin was actually kind of being a good friend and he didn't pipe up in any negative way. He wasn't being the leprechaun, pulling on people's coattails. Like he wasn't doing any of that. And I was like, Okay, good. Yeah, I mean they they did get in a little bit. afterwards but I I do just wanna say Lindsay before we move on Lindsay was telling Whitney some bullshit about like earlier in the season that she was actually being a girls girl and telling Kenny not to cheat on her because she moved not to be a fuck boy because she moved across country and if you can't understand that that's because you have a very different mindset. She's such an asshole. She really is. She's and Whitney was like crying at some points during this whole interaction. Like I really, really felt bad. And then Georgina's jumping in to like tag team with Lindsay. Which is unnecessary. And then Amanda's trying to be the word of reason, being like, guys, just like let the one person answer. Like if a question's asked, like I I we don't need one, two, three answering. And I'm like, Amanda, shut the fuck up. Then we have Kenny being like, those are some wise words. Andy was like, What, can you repeat that? And Amanda's like, I don't even remember what I said. She's fucked. but We get into Gavin's thoughts on the Kenny Whitney situation. Yes. and you know Kenny's basically saying, Hey, I know we come across as boring, but I like it that way. Like it's grounding and that's just who we are. Yep. When he says that, Gavin's face just like ignites. He looks like, you wanna do this right now, dude? Yeah. Let's go. so when asked by Andy, Gavin, do you like Whitney? I love Whitney. Yeah. Even Whitney's face was like, I know. Chill out. No, you don't. You're a liar. He does he admits though, he says, it annoys me that you guys say that your entire relationship is travel and excitement. That's a honeymoon phase, which is great, but that's not a relationship, which I Right. That's not long term. Yeah. But on the same note, do they owe like do they owe it to you to tell them about their intimate problems? Like exactly. Their problem. Like, why would he tell you when you've been going after him? Well, so I think I forget where I heard it. I think it was on Nick Vile on the Vile Files, a podcast that Gavin before filming started actually got out of a pretty serious longer term relationship. So that kind of makes sense that like his focus was now on my best friend is really getting like hitched up here. So I gotta kinda try to How is that not mentioned during the season? I don't know. That is we're d I know. I don't know. The producers of this show have failed. Yeah, they really did. Because People's Personal Life was not out there at all. This was. I don't know if it was just so much re-editing because of Westgate, but they failed. failed. I feel like they're they were like, we're gonna get ratings if we're focused on Kyle and Amanda. And like any association with that, if anyone else is fighting, that's great. But like other than that, we don't have time for it. Yeah, it's not. Stupid. Absolutely stupid. but so the father situation and and meeting dad came up and Kenny described it as an unexpected situation. And I'm like, why is no one mentioning that his brother came out and like said this shit? Like, why is this not being mentioned? I want to see because I couldn't even read anyone's faces of like being like, you know, like kind of like rolling their eyes or anything like this isn't true. Like you actually like you wanted your second story and to shy away from you, Whitney. Yeah. So annoying. I don't understand. Or even Andy. Cause that's not an an account. That's not a r that's that's his brother. Call him in. How are you not going to have that on the reunion? Unless, unless Kenny lost it when his brother did that and threatened his brother with like I don't know. This is wild and outrageous to say, but like what if he was like, I'm gonna get a restraining order on you if you ever speak my name again in the public or something. You know what I mean? Like maybe it's something that it can't touch. Cause that I don't understand why that wouldn't be brought up. Right. I mean, yeah, it it must be something like that because who d the point of the reunion is that when all of the pieces fall, we can decide what we want to touch on. Yeah. That is like However, actually no, because then if they did that, then they would in some way be taking responsibility for the fake storyline, maybe. that's it's like obviously if it's fake the producers knew it's I don't know. Yeah. No no no, that's totally valid. Absolutely. But still. It doesn't make it better, but But they but that comment came out way after that actually it Well, a little bit after it aired, so they wouldn't have knowledge of that while they were filming it. So I don't know if that would apply, you know. I think there's something with Kenny was like, Don't fuck with me. Yeah, no, one hundred percent. Yeah. Kenny says that the entire beginning of the season he felt like he had to constantly defend his relationship, his spark, moving Whitney to the city, and he couldn't enjoy hanging out with the group, which is the Kenny we saw during the first half of the season. Right. Which I will accept partially as truth because but the thing is now, to your point, we're not talking about there all of a sudden being a fresh storyline out of nowhere and we're no longer willing to talk about moving Whitney to the city with no ring. Right. You know? Yeah. No. Absolutely. but they also say our spark is brighter than ever now. And then Whitney makes a comment that they're talking about getting engaged soon. But Who it's July twenty fifth. Yeah, what's going on here? It's been a month and a half. And you're what planning this tooth and nail, like he's well and didn't they say they got married in like a spiritual way on a vacation and then Peru or something like Yeah, yeah. So where's the ring? Like you still I I I don't I don't know. Wait, yeah, if you get a s like a symbolic they even level up and they say, We want to get pregnant soon. And then Lindsay pipes in baby minion Martin. Yeah, she couldn't. She said it like three times. I'm like, can you stop? She's so annoying. Lexi did pipe up though. She was asked if she thinks Lindsay and her friends are mean girls. Yeah. And Lexi says, obviously, no, not at all. Of course. she considers Lindsay one of her good friends. Uh-huh. Now I did She's afraid of her. She is afraid, but I did actually I forgot that Andrea was on Winterhouse with Lindsay. He was Not on Summer House before that. That was his first time on Bravo ever. He probably grew But Lexi wasn't a part of Winter House. No, she wasn't. But I'm saying that like just follow me here. Yeah. Follow me here. She never came until right now. We've never seen her before. So No, we saw her at the end of Summer House, I think. Not not this past season, like the one he was on. really? Yeah. The last season he was on. So anyway, so Winterhouse. Guest appearance. I don't know, but whatever. Yeah, to something like that. So Winter House, he builds like these crazy strong connections. Dude's from Italy. He probably doesn't fucking know anyone around here really, you know. Like his modeling friends. Yep. And he probably was like it's kind of like going away from summer camp and like, yeah, you guys spend only three months together, but you feel this connection that you don't even have with your friends back home. Yeah. It's like so. So I kind of feel like to what you said last week, he probably said to Lexi, This girl is my Friend friend. Right. Leave her alone. I don't care. She's a little bit cuckoo, but I'm I'm not gonna even get into it with you. And I don't want publicly to be in a feud with Lindsay, and I don't want that to affect any brand deals that I'm getting because that's supporting us. Yeah. Yeah. And we're ha we have a baby coming. We're not trying to fuck around here. man. I mean, I just gotta be honest, I don't know how there's gonna be a part two. I don't want to hear about Amanda and Kyle anymore. I unless it's West on FaceTime telling us everything. That just wouldn't deny. I think the Ava Dash stuff is gonna come up. I care about that. Me too. Sounds good. Me too. and then Sally, obviously. I feel really bad for Sally. She's always like the side chick that's like always down, but never chosen. I I do feel bad for her. I agree. I have I like Sally. She has her own house. She has a good career. She's fucking pretty. She's always getting screwed over by the guys. It's like with the Craig thing. You bought chickens. But they but girls like that, they'll they'll never get but the thing is to both points, because that drives me crazy too. Cause like I'm not like that. So when I see it, I want to shake them and be like, no, you're literally ruining everything. But to the flip side of that coin. It still works out for people like that. Yeah. They still find the best husband and that guy doesn't care where she's been. Yeah. But I feel bad because that's how she's getting spun on the show. And the fact is she probably has her life together more than half these bitches that are just influencers. Well, so medical feel. Did you hear her on Lala's podcast recently? Probably. And she was talking about the Kyle situation and she kept just saying it's fun. And I she was like, I told him, You're getting it like out of a 10 year relationship marriage. It's fine. And I'm like, dude, you that's not really what you think. You get attached so quickly. You're probably like, this sucks so bad seeing Kyle making out with all these random fans at his DJ things. You're probably crying about it. You're probably like checking your phone constantly. Like I just was like, she's really trying to make it seem like she's not affected. Cause I think the Craig thing in that being filmed on Southern. charm. It was not great for her. Yeah. It was really bad. Yeah. But it's like, okay, but who cares about Craig? Because she had a crush on Austin the whole time. So now Austin's throwing parties in Charleston and Kyle's going there and sleeping with Sally, even though Sally liked Craig but then wanted to sleep with Austin, but then now is ending up with Kyle. She did sleep with Austin. I think she slept with all of them now. What do you guys talk about? Like, how was Sally? And listen, I do have to say, even though Austin is a little weird looking to me, all three of those guys, Kyle, Austin, Craig, it pains me to say it, but they are good looking men. Yeah. So I get it. And they're making money. And I get it. But it's like you know that they're all gonna these guys aren't good guys. I know. Kyle's fine, but the Southern Charm guys are not the type of guys that I wanna Which is crazy. It's supposed to be the opposite. It's supposed to be the southern guys are like the gentlemen and they wanna settle down. And they call New Yorkers assholes, but right? And look at Carl versus I mean, we got an angel from heaven versus you know God, I know whatever you wanna call those demons. Something. But so this this ends with the Kenny comment. Lindsay, you collect apologies like you collect souls. I was like, good for you, Kenny. Do you think he made that up on the well not on the spot, obviously. Yeah. he definitely rehearsed that in the mirror for But do you think he made that up? I do. That's so I if it did, then that secure since Well maybe he said it in a conversation to Whitney. I don't care. I And then he was like, Let me use this. Right, right. It's so fucking smart. Yeah, it is. It is, it is. I hope it secured him a season two. Wait, real quick, I'm so sorry. Lindsay also, when Whitney was like apologizing and kind of backpedaling, which I was Whitney, don't do this because you did make a comment that like Lindsay has used this the single mom card several times and like you can't even now come up with examples of it. Like that doesn't look good. Don't love that. but then Lindsay says she was crying for six months about this. And I'm like, Lindsay, it really is not that bad. No one's buying that. You cried about this for six months. Is that Is that what we've come down to? Because you know you have no leg to stand on, and now we're out here saying we've been crying for six months, and the only thing that could possibly stop your crying is Westgate. my god, I know I was Amanda's really just fucking said bad. Like thanks for the scandal. But that's the thing, Lindsay that is like everything in a nutshell. Lindsay doesn't get it. I know. She's she's in her own lane, she's in the She's the only person and to Whitney's point, she thinks she's more important than everybody else. Yeah. There you go, right there. Hey Amanda, I know you literally went through trauma. You will never recover from ever this scandal. but Whitney's saying I played the mom card, and that's the only thing that pulled me out of my depression. That's a slap in the fucking face. If I was Amanda, I'd be like, Yeah. It doesn't seem like they're doing well just by Lindsay's. No, they're going down. They're going down. Yeah, so I guess, you know, we'll we'll have to see what happens on part two. And if anything wild comes out, I really am hoping for it because like this wasn't really Yeah, I think yeah, next week will probably be a short episode because I can't imagine we're gonna have much to talk about on this stupid freak or even part two. And then next week we will announce what our next show will be. Yes. So stay tuned. Yep. Because we're not telling you right now. Right. And it's lovely to see you guys again on a sunny Saturday. And we will see you next week. Okay. Bye.