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Ep148. Choreographing Business Success with a Spouse - a Discussion Between Leigh Shultis and Angie Kitko. · The Inner Wealth Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: What a treat I have for you today On this podcast, on the Interwealth podcast.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Even when we go back to when the podcast was titled Lead, love, profit, play, there have only been two formats, pretty much two formats.
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  Speaker 1: And that's me.
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  Speaker 1: We call them mic drops, where it's just me just jamming with you guys and I've also had interview guests.
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  Speaker 1: And there's been some times where I've trained, I've been in a live training, but it's always been me and someone else or me in an audience.
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  Speaker 1: Today completely different, completely different format my wife, angie Kitko, runs the events.
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  Speaker 1: She's the event coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: She's the overseer of our business, interwealth Global.
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  Speaker 1: She oversees day-to-day operations.
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  Speaker 1: She takes peeks into our P&L.
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  Speaker 1: She looks at our finances, makes sure our finances are in check.
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  Speaker 1: She looks for speaking engagements.
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  Speaker 1: She's always looking for, on the lookout where we can get on bigger stages or get on stages at all and share the message of inner wealth.
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  Speaker 1: And she also inside of the inner wealth mastermind, she runs our woman's call.
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  Speaker 1: She's our event coordinator in our mastermind.
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  Speaker 1: She makes sure that when we go on retreats and we have some awesome retreats to Sedona, arizona, miami, florida, we've gone to Denver, colorado, we've gone to San Antonio, texas, we're going to Gatlinburg, tennessee in the fall.
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  Speaker 1: She coordinates and manages some awesome retreat environments and in our Miami retreat and our Sedona retreat we were basically in mansions and my wife, angie Kitko, is an absolute powerhouse and she's amazing and powerful and just full of fire, and you'll see that today she is full of fire and she is going to do something, or she did something that she's never done before and that's show up on video and interview somebody.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: Angie Kitko had a discussion with Lee Schultes about what it's like to run a business with your spouse.
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  Speaker 1: Now Angie asked this question in the Business Freedom Academy, which is our free Facebook group.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not part of the Business Freedom Academy, please go and request access.
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  Speaker 1: But Angie asked that question what is it like?
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  Speaker 1: You know who runs a business with your partner and what is that experience like?
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  Speaker 1: And Lee turned that on Angie and said Angie, tell us your experience.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: And Angie said well, why don't we go on video?
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  Speaker 1: It was an act of courage for Angie and said Angie, tell us your experience.
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  Speaker 1: And Angie said well, why don't we go on video?
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  Speaker 1: It was an act of courage for Angie.
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  Speaker 1: Angie said why don't we go on video and actually talk about that?
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  Speaker 1: So Lee agreed and Angie and Lee jammed for about 30-ish minutes on what it's like, first of all, to be a female entrepreneur and to step into your power and your courage and your confidence, but also what it's like to run your business with your spouse, because the hardest thing, the most challenging thing in this world is being an entrepreneur.
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: The second most challenging thing in the world well, no, the even more challenging, I should say is being the spouse and being the significant other of an entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 1: But the most challenging thing in the world is running a business and being an entrepreneur with your spouse.
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  Speaker 1: And in today's episode and today's audio episode and video episode, angie and Lee are going to unpack that You're going to see they had an awesome discussion.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to emphasize that this is Angie's first time showing up on video.
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  Speaker 1: Before this, she was nervous, she was anxious, she was a little uncertain and this is a zone of growth for her.
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  Speaker 1: But when you watch and you listen to the interview that she did with Lee, you can't even tell that this was her first time.
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  Speaker 1: It's like she's a pro.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, they were both pros in this discussion.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to shut up now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in the intro music on the audio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to slam right into the discussion on the video.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, connect with the Business Freedom Academy because there's some magic happening.
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  Speaker 1: Justin Dossey, our business partner Cara Dossey, our business partner Angie and me we all put content in the Business Freedom Academy on Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: It's a free Facebook group private request access.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of magic happening behind the closed door Request access.
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to get to today's episode right now.
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  Speaker 1: You ever wake up feeling like there's something missing in your life.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever feel the need to escape your business?
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  Speaker 1: Are you running your life or is your life running you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm Mike Kitko and I'll help you design and create a life so authentic and aligned with who you really are.
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  Speaker 1: You'll get excited just to wake up.
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  Speaker 1: I'll help you create real wealth, success and freedom from the inside out.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Inner Wealth Podcast where we learn and choose to live inspired each and every day.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to take a moment to introduce Lee Schultes.
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: We are in Adam McChesney's Mastermind Builders of Authority Mastermind Together.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: So a new friend of ours and someone who I have really enjoyed kind of getting to know online.
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  Speaker 2: She's super creative, super just love watching her and I love how she really puts herself out there.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: So I do want to say first of all that me on here on this live because, if you guys know me, I really am uncomfortable doing stuff like this so this is all because of Lee and Lorna, who is also with Adam McChesney.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: She is his, his admin and executive and does it's like she's his backbone, let's be honest, and these two really kind of kind of help push me outside of my comfort zone and get into this.
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  Speaker 2: So, so, super excited.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and Lee and I were just talking before we jumped on here that we're going into this conversation with no background.
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  Speaker 2: We really don't have an agenda, we really don't have a plan, I don't have a list of of questions here that we're going to, we're going to talk about, and I had no idea that you kind of lived like that too, and that's how I am.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: So that was exciting to get to know that about you.
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  Speaker 2: So do me a favor, just give everybody a little bit of background on who you are, real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: It's really important to me that we go in and just have like organic conversation, so it was exciting to me when you asked me to do this today.
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  Speaker 3: My name's Leigh Schultes and I founded a podcast in October and it was last October.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: It's called the Makers Moment Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a lifelong artist and creative and really enjoy, you know, elevating the local community, especially like underserved communities and populations.
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  Speaker 3: So we started the Makers Moment in October of last year.
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  Speaker 3: I decided to finally go all in, which I'm sure resonates a lot with people listening to this.
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: You know that moment where you're like I'm going to do this for real now, and started with the women of Western North Carolina, the women that I saw around me and just decided to start telling their stories.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: So I love art and creativity, but I also love, like, looking really deep at what it means to be creative, because for me, I see creativity in conversations, I see creativity in painting, I see it in, you know, emergency services.
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: So it's really exciting to me to kind of broaden the scope a bit and be on here and learn from you.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: I think that what you're the subject today is highly creative.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: So running a business with your significant other.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: I'm really, really excited to learn about that.
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: So that's me in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to get to know me, feel free to add me on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be, I'd love to to you know kind of connect there as well.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: So I love that, lee, and I love the name makers.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: I love the name it's, it's so, it's so cute, and I think that it's important that you you mentioned that creativity can be found in everything.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: I think that it's important that you mentioned that creativity can be found in everything, including everyday conversation, and I think that we as a society, we've sort of been programmed to believe that creativity is only something that is valuable when you're making money off of it.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: So you're only creative if you're painting and you're good at it, good in quotations being that what, what society says is good or bad coming from you know who gets paid for what.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: So people and I know I'm guilty of that saying, oh, I'm not creative, I'm not creative, but you're right, like these, these conversations are creative and what I do is creative, and I definitely let that get lost on me.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: So so, thank so, thank you for that reminder.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: And it's super exciting how this came about too, because when I asked that question, we started the Business Freedom Academy a while back and Mike and Justin go and come in and do a lot of lives together and a lot of trainings, and Kara and I kind of sort of stay in the background and Kara and I kind of sort of stay in the background and, for those of you who don't know, my position with my role in Inner Wealth is I run the.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: I lead the women's group within the mastermind that we have and that came from a place of recognizing the.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of female entrepreneurs out there.
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of females who are standing beside male entrepreneurs and I feel like it's a very underserved, undersupported community.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: Right, the mastermind community in general is very male-dominated, the entrepreneur space is very male-dominated and I definitely recognize that there was a lack of support when Mike started this business, that there wasn't much support out there for me as the person standing behind him and he will be the first person to tell you that that the power is in the person behind him and we are sort of sort of talking kind of gender roles today just because I am coming from a place of.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: I am a female with a male husband who is a male entrepreneur, so that doesn't discredit anybody else, but that's just where I'm coming from.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: So Lee had asked me, when I had asked the question, who works with their spouse in their business and what is your best advice?
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: She turned it back around on me and asked me what my biggest lesson has been and I feel like I could talk about this forever hours on end, from from beginning to now.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: And yeah, kara, creativity has absolutely no limits.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: You are, you are a hundred percent right and I'm really glad you're here.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: But, lee, I want to hear a little bit about you and, before I answer that question, I want to hear a little bit about what sparked that, because I know that there's been some discussion with you and your partner and how you are relating in the business, so tell me a little bit about that.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: So it's no secret with him, I think once a week I sent him, you know, allie Wong the comedian I'll send him clips of her and her leopard print dress being like and I, you know, and I employ my husband my husband stays at home and it's no secret with us where, when we met it was an interesting place I was employed.
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: I was definitely trading my time for money more so, you know, and I'm sure that can resonate with a lot of people and I was looking to break free from that and he was the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: He had an established business.
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  Speaker 3: He works in cars.
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  Speaker 3: He specializes in like boxer engines, so think like Subarus and Porsches, and so he's very mechanically minded, had his own business since he first came to this country, different businesses, but he is an entrepreneur and he at that time was going through a business breakup.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: So, whereas I wanted to break free into really claiming the space for myself, he wanted to take a step back.
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: And so it's interesting because he's done a lot of not the specific things that I want to do, but he's had very successful businesses, which is a goal I would hope for everybody listening in, and so it's interesting.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: So, as he's now employed and looking at what's his next step.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: I have gone out and done the opposite, and so when you talk about gender roles, it's kind of interesting because ours I feel like I can relate to what you say a lot, but at the same time I also feel like I'm excited to one day be able to employ him, and that's something we've talked about.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: It made me laugh when we talked, when you said sitting in kind of the back, the wings, you know, supporting Mike.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: He is a hundred percent my rock and sometimes he'll say things where he's like you know you should try this.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: You know, if being a mother is a huge part of your ideal client profile, why don't you go hang out where the moms hang out?
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: You know, if being a mother is a huge part of your ideal client profile, why don't you go hang out where the moms hang out?
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: You know online and stuff like that.
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: And I said you know I'll do that eventually.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: And then the first mastermind group they, you know it was one of those things hey, you should go hang out where the moms hang out.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: And I came back and said, well, it took a mastermind and a little bit of money for me to admit that you're right.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: But here we are, and so that's really what I'm interested in learning more about is is, you know, um, being a little more receptive?
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: It's, it's and being able to kind of not damper down your ego, cause I feel like ego is important but learning how to listen, you know, with someone that you're so familiar with.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Um, so that's a little backstory for me.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: I, I don't know if you have any questions about that, but no, but two of my favorite words or three words are you were right, michael, I knew it.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and you know, one of the things that I found in the beginning was and we do, we do have a.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Uh, hey, adam, thank you for jumping on here.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: I know you're at a speaking engagement.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: This is really cool that you were able to jump on.
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  Speaker 2: Um, we do have a.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, hey, adam, thank you for jumping on here.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: I know you're at a speaking engagement.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: This is really cool that you were able to jump on.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Um, we do have a couple of of women in our mastermind, who they are, the.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: They are the head entrepreneur, they are the head leader.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: So there is, there is that, there is that piece where that can't.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: That does happen.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: It's just.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: I just noticed that there was.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I saw what the majority of what I saw in this space was when we started this, and one thing that that I had noticed in the beginning was I felt that I didn't have I had always been a stay at home mom.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: For those of you who don't know, I am a recovered pharmaceutical addict.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I spent probably 20 years of my adult life in pharmaceutical addiction.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I spent probably 20 years of my adult life in pharmaceutical addiction, so I really didn't have a sense of purpose or a sense of self-worth at all.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: So when Mike started this business, I didn't feel like I had a place.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: And one thing that I saw a recurring theme from the spouses as people were stepping into our mastermind was the woman.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just a stay at home mom.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: I remember Kara when we first met she.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: She was just a hairdresser and we tend to really discredit who we are and what we have to offer again goes back to what our societal programming is Right.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: So that that's really cool.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: And that's cool that he's he's very supportive of you.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: That's, that's really awesome.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: Now you said so what businesses has he owned, really growing?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: He learned English in Harlem.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: It was just.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: It's a crazy, rock, crazy story.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: His name is Gleb and he's from Belarus and so and that's really relevant, you know, cause I am a very traditional our marriage, you know, we're we're engaged right now, but I grew up the youngest daughter, Thank you.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I grew up the youngest daughter of a Marine and he is very Eastern European, and so it's one of those things where I could see, you know, when you talk about your value and your self-worth and, you know, dampening that, To me that really resonates because it's something that I work through every single day, regardless of whether the business will be quote, mine or ours or whatever.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: That is something I think that as women, we do uniquely still work through.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: That's the reason why I started with the women of Western North Carolina still work through.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: That's the reason why I started with the women of Western North Carolina.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, so he owned a cell phone repair store and then, predominantly, engine work.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: It's just something where I'll never forget.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: One day I asked him.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I said how do you know how to do all this stuff?
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: You know, like, how do you know how to repair almost everything?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: How do you, how are you so creative?
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: And he said well, Lee, in my country if we don't fix it, we don't get it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: And I just was like, whoa, so the vast.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't ever underestimate the amount of knowledge that he has, but I definitely know how aggressive I can be in one direction and for as aggressive as I am, he also will sit back and be patient.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And so if we could harness, I think, those different dynamics that we have of like, hey, you have the knowledge of patient, knowledge, very patient, it wouldn't work.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: It wasn't.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm, I'm, I'm not quite there yet.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: And for as aggressive as I am, but then also how aggressive we both can be together, I don't see any other way than it being successful.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: But there are so many nuances in there and that's where I really admire you and Mike, and one of the reasons why I immediately said yes to this opportunity today to learn from you is that I mean, it's such an art.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: It is an art form.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Relationships aren't a form, but a marriage that you successfully work together.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: To me, I'm like, oh my gosh, Angie, tell me everything.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: So that's where I'm coming from.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: You know it's, it's definitely um, it's challenging and and I know, one of the biggest.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: So, and I will speak for Mike here, because there's there's one piece that he has he has learned to accept with me.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And then there's there's where I've learned to.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: One thing I had to learn was I had to learn to allow him to make decisions and make mistakes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And even though my intuition totally told me that something was was not a good move, was not a good call, I mean it was.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And the frustration as women we have such a strong intuition and it is so frustrating when you just you know, hey, this person, this person is not like this is bad, this is really bad.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: And him saying him not trusting that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So that that's been difficult to work through.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And, um, something happened in our business and back in September we had a former employee who not Katie Chatfield, just to make that clear, so hopefully she watches this because so we there was something that was just off about this person and I knew it from day one and I just didn't.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Just there was just something off and it was a one night in August last year, at the end of August, and something told me to to look at our business bank account.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I hadn't hadn't opened up that account in months.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It wasn't my job, I wasn't even really I hadn't really stepped into the business fully yet I hadn't allowed myself to fully accept that I had something to offer Decided to check the bank account and found out this person was stealing from us and Mike just immediately said do what you got to do.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And at that moment our business just shifted because he took that moment to learn to trust my intuition.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: But I also didn't.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't guilt and shame him for the decision that he made.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And that year that this person was with us, I didn't guilt and shame him for making that decision, even though the whole time I kind of expressed some disheartenedness with with this person.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: So that was that was really cool, to where we we both were able to to step in.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And I think that that, lee, has been.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: My biggest lesson is allowing each person to make a decision and, regardless whether that decision is good or bad, not laying the guilt and shame on, because that's something that we that was a space we lived in for for quite a long time where the I told you so, I told you so.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So that's been that.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: That has probably been one of my biggest things and Kara and I Kara is is Kara's one, is our business partner now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Her and her husband, justin, and she and I man, we're going to figure out how to get this spousal working together thing magic work and we're going to be billionaires.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Working together thing, magic work.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And we're going to be billionaires Once we figure out the secret sauce to this.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I told Kara that's it, it's over for y'all once we figure this out.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: So tell me how you see Gleb fitting in with your business.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Like what would you?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not, that's old Mike and Angie.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Not version two.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: This is version like 9.75.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: We've been through so many versions of this.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: But, yes, there is no guilt shame, there's no anger, threats, blames Do we get into?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we go at each other sometimes, but it's very short lived and it's more of just like a release.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so where do you see him fitting into to what you're doing right now?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: So first I just wanted to say thank you for sharing that this is version like eight million I know that's not the word you or the number you said, but of yourselves, because I think it's really important just how we reinvent our processes, that we also our relationships will grow out of that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So it's healthy for someone who you know we're we're moving into a marriage and it's exciting.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But also to set that expectation from the beginning of you know we're moving into a marriage and it's exciting.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: But also to set that expectation from the beginning of you know we've been through a lot pre-marriage and, yes, marriage sometimes can feel like, oh, it's a new version, which it is, but then it's, that's only going to continue.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: So thank you for helping set that expectation for people from the beginning, because I think it's healthy when I could see him fitting in.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: He has such a mechanical, operational mind and I don't know like day-to-day wise, we do want the freedom of being able to be like it's Thursday, let's just completely do nothing, you know.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Or maybe it's Monday through Wednesday, let's do nothing.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: So maybe not necessarily the day-to-day operations, but I would like to hire out for that right now, just so everyone knows where I'm coming from.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like baby, baby entrepreneur.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of life experience, but I am a solopreneur right now and so that's where I take these intentions, or take these decisions very intentionally.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I want to make sure from the beginning we can learn from people and make sure that we're setting ourselves up for success.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I could see him making a lot of operational decisions because, again, I feel like, for as much as my intuition is like no to certain situations or maybe people.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: His business mindset is incredible and every single time I'm in a group of people who have done what I want to do, they usually say I mean, it really is like a 99.9%.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: They say exactly what he told me before I got on the call.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: So I would like to learn how to trust with that more, and I know that that's involves a lot of deep work.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: But I could see myself being the visionary who's very much like let's go, go, go, let's throw things at the wall, see how they work, and then for him to be like okay, let's debrief a bit, you know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: So that's where I could.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: My gut instinct says to do that, that that would be where we would be most effective and then where we would both allow also to push the brakes a bit and enjoy our lives, cause that's really important too.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that and and it is.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: It's so hard but it's so important to differentiate spouse hat and business partner hat.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes I will say I'm right now my wife hat is on and I just need, and men, they just want to fix everything.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: God bless them, like I understand that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: But sometimes I just need to just bitch, like I just need you to listen to me spew all this crap and then just listen.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And that's very hard, that is so hard for them to do.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But I will say I just this is business partner Angie, not wife Angie.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Or this is wife Angie, not business partner Angie.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: And you physically say that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Physically I say that a lot, 100%, wonderful, okay, 100%, and that was.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: That was a nice shift that we made.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: And does it work all the time?
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not, but we're getting better and and I really, like I said, I really just started showing up in this business when all that happened in August, september timeframe Again, I didn't feel like I had anything to offer and anything, any, any, any worth.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And when I saw, when I was like, oh no, I knew this, I could have prevented this.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You know I'm guilted and shamed myself versus him.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: So that's when things just shifted.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: And now I'm like, wait a second, I have so much off of this business and and I I lead the women's call in within our inner wealth mastermind and I've had some women say that they joined our mastermind because of that, and that was a shift for me, because I thought that that was just a my little my girls group, right, but I was like, holy heck, like people are finding value in this.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: So this has been a journey of me finding my self worth too, lee, and and really recognizing that I have value.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I'm a ninth grade dropout, like I'm still trying to work through all the the crap of not having a degree, not having a high school diploma, not having college education.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Who am I to be running a multi-six-figure business without a high school diploma?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: So it's a constant work.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: It's always a work in progress, right?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you, kara.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: And you always jump in.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: You are my coach.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Kara is my Griselda, she's my, she's my co-pilot.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do this without her.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: And I really appreciate you being vulnerable, because the first time you got on a call in the BOA mastermind group, the first thing I thought was well, it was a little more explicit than this in my brain, but the first thing I thought was, oh my gosh, she is wicked smart, wicked talented on top of it, and I need to learn from that person.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: So for me and that's the God's honest truth I wouldn't say if it wasn't true, and it was one of those things where it Griselda forever.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: And also Mike, thank you so much for coming he said he had to run and jump on another call.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: So I'm sure he's gone by now, but he is, but it's.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you are just so invested and so all in like, and I just really appreciate that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And so thank you, though, for being vulnerable, because I think often we tell these stories to ourselves.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You know who am I to do this, and you know you always hear like, if not you, then who?
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: But to really internalize that and the day to day navigating those feelings is so important.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: So even you in your or especially you in your position, doing the work that you're doing, in the deep work that you're doing from someone brand new to your world, like that's incredible that you're willing to be that vulnerable.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Thank you, cause it helps me so much yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you, lee.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that and I could.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You know these.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: This whole just relationships in general is and I guess I'd never really recognized how much knowledge that I do have in this and you know, we picked up our marriage from absolute rock bottom years ago.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Back in 2017, you know, mike filed for divorce those of you who know our story.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: He fought for divorce because, when he decided to build this business, I was like, no, you need to go get a job, you need to work 40 hours a week, monday through friday, nine to five, 401k insurance, four weeks vacation that's what life is Right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: And and he was very adamant no.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: And I love to tell this story because people were like, well, what was your shift?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: What made you come along for this?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And you want to hear something really poetic, like, I wanted to keep my family.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: No, I saw that he was making all these changes in his life and I saw his determination and building this business for himself and I thought to myself man, I've got 15 years invested.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: If this guy's going to get hot and rich, that is mine.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: That is mine.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: No one else gets hot and rich.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Mike, I put too much work into this.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: So you know you will not be the starter, angie yeah exactly Right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And and I was on you talk about versions.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, my gosh, we go through so many phases and I think that that's where that's a whole other conversation we could have is people going to marriages thinking that this is the person that I'm in love with and this is the person I'm going to be in love with forever.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And what you don't recognize is that this person is going to molt and re and evolve 95,000 times over what we have typically have 60 years together, 50, 60 years of marriage together.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: That person is going to go into so many different versions of themselves and if you're not growing together and if you're not falling in love with each new version, you're going to grow apart.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And that is why the importance of having couples in our inner wealth mastermind is because when we we saw that this was not going to work unless we were both on this journey together.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: If we weren't on this journey together, it was going to be Mike and Angie, not Mike and Angie, right?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: So that's, that's it's we've.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It's extremely important that you, you will grow apart if you're not growing together.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So that's, that's something else, lee, and I love that you're, when you're going into, you're so young and you guys are so like.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I wish that I knew everything I know now when we started this, this relationship, 25 years ago, because we would have saved ourselves so much pain and drama and drama Right.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: So you're going into this, this next step with Glabe, that you've got a headstart, you're you're set up for success.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Look who you're surrounding yourself with.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I wish I knew how to surround myself with these type of people when I was your age that's right and I think, yeah, thank you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: And you know what, like I'm not gonna downplay my my part in the relationship, but if it weren't for him behind the scenes, I mean I am on a daily, should I get a job, like I mean, it's almost daily, it was daily maybe, now it's like twice a month.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's where we're at, you know, you think about it daily and then you're like, okay, maybe twice a month should I get a job?
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: And he looked at me one day and he said honey, in a very thick accent.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: He said I know that's when he's serious.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you another story later about the time I got fired, the only time we've worked together.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I got fired in 10 seconds but he looked at me and he said honey.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: He said when you need to get a job I will let you know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: And like it doesn't, no, business coach, no, you know, accountability partner like nobody in the world could ever have that impact on me as he did.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And so for someone who you know wants to be the face of a business and I know that I'll be the vision driven and even you know, and our roles may be a little bit different, but that resonates and this conversation has been so helpful because it allows me to have more empathy, for you know him and hearing your perspective is so valuable because that support having that is like night and day.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I will let you know when you need to get a job and I'm like cool, I'm just going to create, and when I'm told I need to get a job, I'll get a job.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: You know, and it's helped me listen to my compass a lot more just having that support system.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, thank you for-.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Of course, that just displays unwavering support and unwavering belief.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And that's really.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: That's really Mike.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: We actually had a similar moment a couple of years ago where I said to him you know, I could just see he was, he was stressed about where the business was.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And I said to him hey, look, if we stay at right where we are right now for the rest of our lives, I am fine.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And I could just see his body, just like yeah, it makes me emotional.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Thank you for sharing this.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It just took everything.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: He just knew that I've got you, he's got me, I've got you.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: We could lose it all, but there is nobody that I would bet on more than mike kidko.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Mike and angie kidko our back.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: He put his back up against the wall.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: He will, he will win every day.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And and that just having that, that sort of support and that belief, and again the belief yeah it's, it just shows that you're, you're in it for you're in it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: When are you guys getting married?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: So we haven't set a date yet.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: We had a couple of things that you know, a little bit of life changes, alexis says very valuable and it's great to see so many are dealing with this.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: It makes the feelings relatable.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Love you guys, I love you, and I don't even know you yet.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's my wifey Alexis is my wife.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, we were not sure yet.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: And that's another part of the shift is that I was like working 120 salaried hour weeks when we met, like and it just went more and more and more and more and more Not only met, but this past year when we got really serious about like we're going to get married and so, with this amount of freedom, I don't know when we're getting married yet, but I know I'm not going to wear any shoes, so I know I'm going to do it barefoot.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So I always said if a woman has her shoes, it's happening.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: If a woman, once a woman picks the shoes, you're done.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And I was like I'm not going to wear any shoes and I know I want to hand bead my own dress or at least a capelet, cause I know that's very ambitious with everything else going on.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: But we're just going to take it slow and we're just going to enjoy the process, because the first couple of years of our relationship were grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: So many life changes and now I just get to enjoy that freedom.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: So that's that's where we're at.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know is the answer.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: That's that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I want to hear before we jump off of here I want to hear your fire story did you, oh, when I got fired, yes, and I promised him.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I told him.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I said you know mike, that guy, and angie, the ones I always talk about.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm going live with them and I'm gonna tell him.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: You fired me.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: So when we first met, you know a my car situation.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I have driven the same Honda fit for at least seven years and I do 125 jewelry slash art shows a year.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: So you do the math.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: This thing has been totaled twice and I was like I'll just take the money, you know, instead of instead of getting a new car, and I'll reinvest the money in the business, et cetera.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: So my car, you'll see it in June, it's beautiful.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: But he, you know, was supporting me through that and he said you know, I'm going to doing a bunch of like car maintenance and it was for an afternoon and I, you know, we'd first met.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: We were kind of flirty and he was working on my car and I was in his shop, cause at this time he still had the business and I picked up what I thought was water.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: It was not water and it was in like a spray bottle and I was like I'm James Bond, like just messing around in the shop, which I didn't really know what I know now about car shops and how dangerous that could be.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: And I did like a front roll and went like right in his face that's because that's the trigger now, but right in his face with the window or it wasn't.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: When next it was some kind of extreme cleaner and he looked at me and stopped everything and I've never seen him like physically get himself together because I just put some kind of chemical agent in his face.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And he looked at me and he goes honey, and that's where the honey comes in.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: And he puts two hands on each shoulder and he goes honey, I need you to get out of the shop.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: So I lasted like 45 seconds and so I always laugh with him and I'm like well, when I bring you on, you know I'm going to need the honeys to continue because I'm going to need you to rein me in and be like no, no, this is what we're doing now.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And so that's the.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I got fired.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: It was literally 45 seconds.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The car was up on the lift and I was out the door.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: That is amazing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Let me indulge in that story.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: No, I love that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to meet him.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: And I did, for the record, I did demote Mike.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: He got, he got demoted back in September to.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: He is not creative director, it's his role in this business.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: He's, he's.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: He is not allowed hiring, he's not allowed firing.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: But, um, we, we, I, I joke that I, yeah, I, I demoted him a bit.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, no, lee, this was really cool.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And for um, for those of you who are local to St Louis, lee is going to be coming in town.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Apparently, she just learned that Mike and I were local to St Louis before we jumped on this, this live.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So, uh, lee is going to be coming to town in June for the builders of authority, live, and we'll actually not be staying with with the kid codes.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So, if you're local and you are interested in meeting Lee, we would, we'll definitely get something together for that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And um, this Lee, we would, we'll definitely get something together for that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: And um, this was awesome.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: And I would love to do this with more, more especially women, because I love these conversations and I feel like you know, karen and I will definitely be doing some of these because, man, she and I, we've been business partners for a couple of months now and, and, um, we were going through it, so it's it's really cool and and it is for to get the female voice out there.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: I think it's really important.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Um, lee, what is the name of your podcast?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Again, just for the people who weren't here to start.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: So it's the maker's moment podcast.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Um, we're on Spotify, itunes, wherever you get your podcasts.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Um, which is super exciting, we are launching a kind of a spinoff podcast as well, called the odd files podcast, and that's just a way for me to get all of my random information out there.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: So if you want to just listen to something weird and decompress for a little bit, go for the odd files.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: The makers moment season one was all about the women of Western North Carolina and telling the untold stories of Appalachia, especially Appalachian women.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: So that is a huge passion project for me.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Eventually it will go out and we'll, we'll, we'll go internationally and things like that, and we are recording for season two.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: So if you're interested, if you're not in Appalachia, if and if you're not a woman or don't identify as a woman, we're happy to to have a discussion.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Now I have a couple of those lined up and let's, let's get you on there.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It'd be really fun.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: We just talk all about creativity and what it means.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: We ask really hard questions about what it means to be creative.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: So, oh, that's good.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I'll have to definitely definitely get into that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Alexis, thank you, I love you so much.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: You are a.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You're very special in my life.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Um and uh.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Before I will go ahead and plug, interwealth global is going to new Orleans.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: We will be um June 8th and 9th.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: We are taking our destination millionaire mindset workshop to new Orleans.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Lee was supposed to be there, but she had an uh, an opportunity to come up for a jewelry show, an important jewelry show, so she's going to skip out on that one, but um would love to have you guys there.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And thank you all so much for joining me on my first StreamYard.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: This was so cool.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Now you might not be able to get me off of here.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: It was awesome To be completely vulnerable, Angie.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: This was my first one too, so thank you for having me.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: It's a really special and you rocked it so thank you, and thank you for not telling me that beforehand, that this was your first one too.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Because I came into this like, oh well, she's probably an expert.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: She has a podcast.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I was going to text it to you but we were figuring out StreamYard.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So glad you did it, I'm glad you did it Anyway.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: So, thank you guys so much.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Alexis, kara Stacey, thank you all so much for for jumping on here.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Um, love you all so much and I can't wait to do this again.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Love you all so much and I can't wait to do this again.
• 39:30
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