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The Dismal Swamp Dogman - Remote Viewing Investigation with Bruce Brown · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. My goodness,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that I made it here in time
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  Speaker 2: for this show tonight. Man, if you guys ever felt
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  Speaker 2: like you just don't have enough minutes, enough hours, enough
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  Speaker 2: seconds in every day, that is my life 24-7. And
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  Speaker 2: today it was much more, I was much more close
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  Speaker 2: to not making it here in time today for this show.
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  Speaker 2: But hey, I'm here. And I am super excited to
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  Speaker 2: be here tonight. Gosh, we have a fantastic show for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: We are going to be discussing the Dismal Swamp Monster. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: there's a whole bunch of monsters, so I need to
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  Speaker 2: distinguish which one we're talking about. We're talking about the
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  Speaker 2: Dog Man. Out of the Dismal Swamp area back in 1902, actually,
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  Speaker 2: is this account that we're going to be discussing tonight.
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  Speaker 2: But we have a whole lot of other stuff to
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  Speaker 2: talk about at the Dismal Swamp. This is brand new.
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  Speaker 2: To me, okay, so this was tasked to me as
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  Speaker 2: a remote viewing target. A little while back, all the
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  Speaker 2: data is in my Patreon, if you guys are interested
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  Speaker 2: in seeing all the data for this creature that was
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  Speaker 2: quite vicious, by the way. It might have unalived several dogs, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: And it was kind of, what does Barry call it,
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  Speaker 2: impervious to bullets, okay? And so, and this was way
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  Speaker 2: back in the day, but, you know, sightings and encounters...
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  Speaker 2: persist to this day. And whether it's the same creature
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  Speaker 2: or maybe it is a relative of this creature, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about that tonight. Also, there's lots of
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoots around this area. Witchcraft cults. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that's the way you say it, but a lot of
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  Speaker 2: witchcraft and shapeshifters, skinwalkers, and things like that have been
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  Speaker 2: reported around this area. And it's kind of spooky, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a very deep history with the I guess
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  Speaker 2: the settlers, the Native Americans, the indigenous people, and escaped
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  Speaker 2: slaves as well. And so that makes a, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I'd say perfect, all the perfect ingredients for a good
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  Speaker 2: haunted swamp. Okay. And that's exactly what this thing is.
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  Speaker 2: So I hope y'all are ready. We got a lot
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  Speaker 2: to go over tonight. I have an actual newspaper from
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  Speaker 2: 1902 we're going to show. I can't even see it
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  Speaker 2: because it's so small. I have, it gives me a
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  Speaker 2: headache trying to read it. But the Library of Congress
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  Speaker 2: does have an archive of all of the old newspapers, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: It's freaking amazing. I was so excited to find these things.
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  Speaker 2: But there are newspaper articles about this attack that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be talking about tonight, okay? So buckle up, buttercups.
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  Speaker 2: And if you're in the Kentucky area this weekend, please
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  Speaker 2: come see me. I'm going to be At a Moonshine Festival,
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  Speaker 2: I have been asked to speak at a Bigfoot slash
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  Speaker 2: Dogman Town Hall on Saturday. I will be there on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday morning at 11 a.m. Central Time at the Land
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  Speaker 2: Between the Lakes. This is quite an honor to be
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  Speaker 2: asked to be speaking at this alongside Martin Groves, who
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  Speaker 2: is a resident of this area. I think he lives
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee, but he is a longtime Dogman experiencer, Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: researcher at the Land Between the Lakes. Uh, he and
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  Speaker 2: my good buddy, uh, Barton Nunley are going to be
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  Speaker 2: there as well. And, uh, and I don't know, I've
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  Speaker 2: got my co-host here and I, hopefully Bruce will show
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  Speaker 2: up with tonight or he's here tonight. I'm on Saturday. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: but we're going to have a big old crowd there.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be huge. It's really, people are really
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  Speaker 2: there for the moonshine. Just come get a little extra, uh,
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  Speaker 2: excitement by coming to the Bigfoot Dogman Town Hall. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I was joking around. I think they're putting us
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  Speaker 2: early so that people are not drinking moonshine whenever, uh,
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  Speaker 2: they hear me and martin talk okay but uh but
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  Speaker 2: anyways uh yeah you guys come see us at that
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  Speaker 2: if you want more information on that please go over
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  Speaker 2: to my website the cryptid huntress.com all my shows are
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  Speaker 2: there my calendar of events all the stuff you need
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  Speaker 2: to find me okay all my social media links uh
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  Speaker 2: it's all over there so please uh go check that
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  Speaker 2: out and of course if you'd like to see all
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  Speaker 2: the data i do have some good data for this
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  Speaker 2: target tonight uh this is a coordinate remote viewing target Okay. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and it's on my Patreon. That's patreon.com forward slash the
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  Speaker 2: cryptid hunters.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all let's get into our show tonight. This
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a, this is kind of wild.
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  Speaker 2: There are, I think, here's the thing, y'all. I think
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  Speaker 2: there are several dismal swamp creatures and monsters. Okay. The
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  Speaker 2: one that we are talking about is an actual, we
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  Speaker 2: believe it's a dog man. Okay. And so let's get
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  Speaker 2: into this tonight. If I can get my lights right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The Great Dismal Swamp stretches across northeastern North Carolina and
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  Speaker 2: into southern Virginia. It's one of the largest natural areas
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  Speaker 2: in the eastern United States. with over 100,000 acres protected
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  Speaker 2: by state and federal preserves. This area has a long
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  Speaker 2: history of human settlement and exploitation, being home to Native
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  Speaker 2: American bands for over 13,000 years before the Europeans took
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  Speaker 2: an interest in the land. The Dismal Swamp lives up
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  Speaker 2: to its name with deep, murky, and dangerous waters covered
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  Speaker 2: by a canopy of cedar trees and Spanish moss, Within
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  Speaker 2: the shadows of the swamp lurks a creature that's known
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  Speaker 2: as an apex predator. It's about seven to nine feet tall.
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  Speaker 2: It usually has longer yellow colored fur. Sometimes it's covered
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  Speaker 2: in debris and mud. It's all dirty, but of course
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  Speaker 2: it lives in the swamp, y'all. But it is known
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  Speaker 2: to have red glowing eyes. Sometimes they say it's actually
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  Speaker 2: yellow glowing eyes. So you remember between red to yellow.
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  Speaker 2: In 1902, the dismal swamp monster was said to have
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  Speaker 2: killed seven dogs, eaten two of them, and attacked the
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  Speaker 2: dog's owner as well. The creature was reportedly unfazed by
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  Speaker 2: the gunfire, with six of the dogs fleeing, six other dogs,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, fleeing in terror at the sight of it.
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  Speaker 2: The monster was later spotted at the home, another home
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  Speaker 2: in the area, appearing by a well. And it caused
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  Speaker 2: panic amongst all the locals in this area. The legends
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  Speaker 2: and sightings of this creature are still reported to this day.
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  Speaker 2: But what exactly is the dismal swamp monster? Well, I
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  Speaker 2: was tasked with that encounter back in 1902.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: As a remote viewing target, actually the creature that was
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  Speaker 2: responsible for that encounter. And, and so we've got some
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  Speaker 2: pretty fascinating data with that tonight. And of course I
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  Speaker 2: have Mr. Bruce Brown here. And Bruce is a retired
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement official. He has, He's actually from around the
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  Speaker 2: area where I did that Skinwalker Cave investigation a long
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  Speaker 2: time ago. And you know it was Bruce, y'all. Please
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  Speaker 2: help me welcome to the show Mr. Bruce Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Hey, Bruce.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no problem. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Bruce, I hope I get to see you this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I sure do. I'm going to try to make it, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wonderful. Yeah, well, you got to come up to the
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  Speaker 2: last time I was up there. We were at the
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  Speaker 2: What was that? The distillery. They had that Bigfoot town
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  Speaker 2: hall there. And I think this one's going to be,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully it won't be so hot as it was last time.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It was hot, man. We were all melting, weren't we?
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  Speaker 1: No. It was a steamer, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: A steamer. What's the weather like up there now? What
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  Speaker 2: should I expect?
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  Speaker 1: We got into the upper 80s. We actually broke a
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  Speaker 1: record today on being hot. And then the news said
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  Speaker 1: something about it's 6 o'clock tonight, but high tomorrow in
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  Speaker 1: the 50s.
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  Speaker 2: What? Yes. Good campfire weather.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. So hopefully that holds true, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I sure hope so. And, yeah, I'm excited to
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  Speaker 2: get up there again and I get to speak. Are
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  Speaker 2: you shocked, because I'm shocked, that the LBL, this is
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  Speaker 2: like a sanctioned event there, is actually having a Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: dogman town hall this weekend on the site. This is
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  Speaker 2: where allegedly a family got mauled to death by dogmen
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  Speaker 2: back in 1982. What is your opinion on that? Do
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  Speaker 2: you think this is wild or are you excited about it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about it just to go up there
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  Speaker 1: and meet meet a lot of people and everybody gets
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  Speaker 1: a chance come up there especially if you're interested in
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  Speaker 1: this subject meet a lot of locals and hear their
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  Speaker 1: stories their encounters.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear all the encounters i mean
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  Speaker 2: i don't even know if i'm i told uh martin
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  Speaker 2: and martin i don't know if i'm qualified enough to
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  Speaker 2: come talk up there uh on on things but i
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  Speaker 2: haven't had some weird experiences up there bruce and uh
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  Speaker 2: they said that i was.
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  Speaker 1: But all we got to do is uh wear a
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  Speaker 1: pair of overalls and get us a a pouch of
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  Speaker 1: uh levi garrett chewing tobacco and a jar of moonshine
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  Speaker 1: they won't know we're not from there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh is that the secret all right just
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  Speaker 2: look for me i'm gonna blend in with the crowd
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Oh, man. I guess that's good. They're
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  Speaker 2: having the town hall early then in case anybody is
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  Speaker 2: going to be drinking some moonshine. But anyways, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a fun event. I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 2: everybody out there.
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  Speaker 1: I was reading up on it. They said they was
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  Speaker 1: giving away free samples.
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: Bring your designated driver, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Or a tent.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You can camp out somewhere around there. Oh, man. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: what's up, sawdust beast? Oh, my gosh. It's good to
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  Speaker 2: see you in here. And, okay, well, let's get into
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  Speaker 2: our creature of the night, I guess you could say. Tonight,
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  Speaker 2: we are going to be talking about the beast. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of beasts of Dismal Swamp, Bruce, a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: And Dismal Swamp is actually up in the, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's located in, like, the northeastern section of North Carolina. Okay. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and they have a very rich history, very rich history. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I believe what I said in the intro was that
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  Speaker 2: there were native Americans, indigenous people were living there for 13,000 years,
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  Speaker 2: at least before the European settlers showed up. And around
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  Speaker 2: the time that the European settlers showed up, they took
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  Speaker 2: a big interest in this swamp. And, uh, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to, I'm going to pull up some websites today.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to look into some of the stats of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff in this place, uh, But from the very beginning,
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  Speaker 2: they were reporting strange creatures out there in that swamp,
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  Speaker 2: which is not surprising because we have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: swamp creatures around the South, around the United States. And
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  Speaker 2: this is no different. And I don't want to get
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  Speaker 2: some of these confused with the Bigfoot sightings and stuff
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  Speaker 2: they've seen because what we're going to talk about today
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  Speaker 2: is a particular incident that happened around there back in
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  Speaker 2: the early 1900s of what was reported to be like
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  Speaker 2: a werewolf. Okay, but there's a whole bunch of Bigfoots
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  Speaker 2: down there now. Are you familiar with the Dismal Swamp, Bruce?
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  Speaker 1: I'm somewhat. I think half of it lays in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Half of it's in Virginia. Mm-hmm. So I've heard the
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  Speaker 1: story about the dog men there. I haven't really heard
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  Speaker 1: a lot on it, just stories. Just a few people
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  Speaker 1: talk about him. Ooh.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I just remembered? Okay, so I've gone
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  Speaker 2: over a couple of different dogman cases from this area.
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  Speaker 2: We did a show on the Henrico werewolf. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's how you pronounce that. Henrico or the Henrico. But
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  Speaker 2: that was out of Virginia, but that's just around the
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  Speaker 2: same area. Okay? And so the Henrico werewolf, that was
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  Speaker 2: from a while back. I also did a show a
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  Speaker 2: long time ago on... Ooh. What was that settlement that
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  Speaker 2: everybody disappeared? What was that called?
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Not Plymouth.
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  Speaker 1: Something else. I believe they took up with the Croatian Indians.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I can't remember what that place was called. I
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  Speaker 2: can't either. Somebody in the chat will remember. You guys
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  Speaker 2: let me know. Yeah, Croke. Croatan, Croatan or Croatan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Roanoke, Barton. Barton Nunley's in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Barton. Roanoke. That's right. And, and so I
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  Speaker 2: can't wait to see you, Barton. I'm going to see
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  Speaker 2: you in a couple of days, probably tomorrow or the
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  Speaker 2: next day. But yeah, Roanoke, that is some people. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I believe this, but some people have
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  Speaker 2: theorized that some of those people got attacked by a
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  Speaker 2: werewolf out of Roanoke.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so, of course, I had to cover that, do
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  Speaker 2: a show on it. It was interesting because those people
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely just disappeared off the face of the map.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of them, a lot of people think
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  Speaker 2: maybe they went to an island. Was that Croatan or
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  Speaker 2: Croata or whatever? And so there's that. But werewolf reports
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  Speaker 2: are not uncommon.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And dogman reports. And as a matter of fact, I've
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  Speaker 2: had several good friends of mine. One in particular, David Pardue.
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  Speaker 2: a longtime Bigfoot field researcher. He's been on the show.
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  Speaker 2: He's based out of North Carolina. And Bruce, he's taken
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  Speaker 2: several dogman reports from up in that area. All over
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina, actually. I mean, he's located kind of near
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  Speaker 2: Uari area. Yeah. So it's a little bit west of
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  Speaker 2: where we're talking about. But nonetheless, there's some pretty intense
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  Speaker 2: dogman encounters out there in the modern day. So... I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they're connected or not. Bruce, what do
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  Speaker 2: you think?
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  Speaker 1: I think they're all connected. It's through the Appalachian Range
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  Speaker 1: and across. So, yes, I mean, I experience them on
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  Speaker 1: this side of the Appalachian Mountain quite often. I hear
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  Speaker 1: other people, excuse me, other people talk about them across
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  Speaker 1: the mountain and over into North Carolina, West Virginia and Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Bristol, Tennessee is supposed to be a really
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  Speaker 1: hot spot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man. Yeah. Well, okay. So I've had some people
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  Speaker 2: that have contacted me recently within the past week or
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  Speaker 2: so telling me that they, they believe, and that's, and
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  Speaker 2: these are, I love hearing all the different theories about
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  Speaker 2: dog men, right? But, but they believe that there's not
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  Speaker 2: a single dog man out there that is not genetically modified,
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  Speaker 2: let's just say, or created for like military purposes. or
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  Speaker 2: some kind of secret program. But I'm not sure if
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that, Bruce. I'm just not. I feel
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  Speaker 2: like there are some that are probably like that, and
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  Speaker 2: I think there are some that go back so far
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  Speaker 2: in our history that I just don't see that being
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  Speaker 2: the case.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What is your opinion on that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you go back to the dog species, we
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  Speaker 1: modified the dogs for hunting, for protection, for attack dogs.
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  Speaker 1: We genetically bred them with others to get them to
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  Speaker 1: where we wanted them to be. Dog man, in what
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  Speaker 1: I deal with, 99% of the time is a flesh
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  Speaker 1: and bone. And every now and then, you know, I'll
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  Speaker 1: run into something that'll surprise me, but my wife, You
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  Speaker 1: get over between the land, between the lakes and places
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  Speaker 1: like that, and you're talking about a whole different situation.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about you've got a big military
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  Speaker 1: base there. You get up to Oak Ridge, Tennessee, same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I try to stay on the ancient warrior's path,
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  Speaker 1: the oldest known travel system in the United States, possibly
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  Speaker 1: the world. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Man, there's got to be so much activity out there.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you what, this place at the Dismal Swamp
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  Speaker 2: has such a rich history. I was shocked at all
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  Speaker 2: the paranormal activity that happens out there and all the
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  Speaker 2: stories that date way, way, way back. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: there's always ghosts. What I find really interesting are the
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  Speaker 2: orbs and the lights that are unexplained that people find
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  Speaker 2: out here in the swamp. And I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: all swamp gas, by the way, okay? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's swamp gas. But a lot of very old legends,
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  Speaker 2: like ancient legends, come out of this place. And, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: let me read a little bit to the audience about
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  Speaker 2: the Great Dismal Swamp. It's a large swamp on the
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  Speaker 2: coastal plain region of southeastern Virginia and northeastern North Carolina
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  Speaker 2: in the eastern United States near Norfolk, Virginia and Elizabeth City,
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina. And let's see, it is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it says around, as of 2022, the size of
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  Speaker 2: the Great Dismal Swamp is around 750 square miles. It's
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  Speaker 2: got Lake Drummond is included in it. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: natural lake, which is interesting. We talk a lot about
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  Speaker 2: man-made lakes, but this is a natural lake. It's located
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  Speaker 2: in the heart of the swamp. And let's see, it's
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  Speaker 2: one of only two naturally occurring freshwater lakes in Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: That is wild to think there's only two freshwater lakes
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: in Virginia.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: That's wild. But it says the canal, okay, it does
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have a canal, the Dismal Swamp Canal. It's 22 miles long.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It was completed in 1805 to provide a pathway of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: trade between Chesapeake Bay, Virginia, and Alabama. Sound in North Carolina.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And the largest water supply for the Dismal Swamp Canal
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: is through Lake Drummond. And it's a wildlife refuge created
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: in 1973. And, oh, a lot of centuries of logging,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: by the way. Okay, so centuries of logging and other
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: human activities devastated the swamp's ecosystem. And it was officially
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: established through, the refuge was established through the Dismal Swamp
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Act of 18, or excuse me, 1974. And it's got
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of wetlands. And, all right, so this is interesting.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: The swamp was a refuge location for the great Dismal
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Swamp Maroons, including slaved people in the southern states first.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: before the American Civil War, the Native Americans who were
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: escaping colonial expansion. Prior to the Maroons inhabiting the swamp,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: it was inhabited by Algonquin-speaking Native American coastal tribes. Okay, so, wow.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So this was actually a place for people to come
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and seek refuge and hide, basically, which I find fascinating
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: right here. The fugitive slaves, actually. they say, went and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: hid out in the swamp. So that's very interesting. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: think that that definitely could have something to do, of course,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: with all of the, you know, some of the hauntings
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and things there as well. But yeah, if you guys want,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: it actually says the Underground Railroad Education Pavilion lives in
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a swamp. Oh, they have an Underground Railroad Education Pavilion there, okay,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: around that area. And so, I mean, it just has
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: a huge, like I said, a very rich history. It
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: has a lot of wildlife, a lot of wilderness, a
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: lot of natural resources, let's just say. And it's pretty
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: much untouched. You know, this is like a swamp area.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It's a refuge. So there's, I guess that means there's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: no hunting there, Bruce. Is that what that means? There's
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: no hunting?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: In certain areas, yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Refuges, they'll divide it up if they need animal control. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Well, to me, that sounds like a perfect place for
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot and Dogman and all the critters out there that
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to be seen or found, I think. And
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: so I think this is a great place for Bigfoot
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: and Dogman and all that stuff. Okay. But let's talk
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: about some of the paranormal activity that we've got going
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: on out there. Mysterious lights are often seen floating through
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the woods. and the water at night. Hunters have passed
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: down stories of shooting a bear or a deer only
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to find out the body has vanished with no trace
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: left behind, not even a drop of blood when they
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: go to retrieve it. There are multiple stories of people
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: encountering phantom figures in the woods of the swamp. No,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. Uh, people dressed in everything from colonial
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: era clothing to early 20th century lumber men, lumberjacks, uh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: So I guess ghosts, spirits, I guess, or maybe even
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: time bubbles or something like that. There is a legend
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: from the swamp that, let's see, I guess it's the
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: most famous one, actually. It says the most famous legend
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: from the Great Dismal Swamp comes from slightly north of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the border in Virginia, where Lake Drummond stretches for five
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: miles through the swamp. And this is a story of
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: a pair of American Indian lovers who were pledged to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: be married, but the bride-to-be died on the morning of
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the wedding day, and she was buried in the depths
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: of the dismal swamp. Driven by mad grief, or driven
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: mad by grief, her young lover became convinced that he
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: could still see her paddling a white canoe across the lake,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and he made a makeshift raft and followed the vision
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: of out to the lake where he drowned when he
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: was trying to attempt to reach her. And ever since then,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: the vision of the two are paddling on a white canoe.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They can sometimes be seen in Lake Drummond, which I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: find that really, that's really sad, actually. But that is
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: one of the main haunts of that area. And I
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: found other haunts similar to that. Okay, there's several. There's
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: actually one of a woman who, She was supposed to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: be married. It was another story. I think this is
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: a different story. Another woman that was planning to be married.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: And her fiance, I guess, the man she was going
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: to marry, he went fishing one morning. And the last
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: time he was seen, he was fishing. And so she
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: was distraught. They went out and looked for him when
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: he didn't come home that day. They set out a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: party to go look for him. And she heard some
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: moaning across the lake in like a little island. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: she saw some lights over there. So she, I think
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: she got in a boat whenever she went over there
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: thinking it was him in distress. And she was never
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: seen again. He nor her were ever seen again. And
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: so there's that story too. Now, did that story, was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: it the same story that got kind of mixed together
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: or they're two separate stories? I don't know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. But there were two different stories as
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: far as I know about that. So It says it's
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: best to not go to this area at dark or
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: anytime after sunset because it is a place of sadness, hostility.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's beautiful, but their energy is very ominous
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: out there. And it says no sane human should go
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: there at night at all. Of course, that's a perfect
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: place for me and you, Bruce. We would totally go there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't we?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: That sounds like right up my alley. Yeah, right up
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: our alley. It says visitors.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Get a pair of jet skis and head right up
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: through there.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Shoot, yeah, I'm there. Okay, visitors have reported seeing dark shadows,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: hearing disembodied voices, hearing strange sounds, experiencing bolts of light,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and encountering ghosts and apparitions. Orbs never failed to show
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: up in photos taken at the swamp. Also, there are
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: backwoods cults and witch, and I said witchcraft cults is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: what I wrote down here, but even though I don't
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: think that's what they're called, just covens of witches and stuff.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: That go out there and do rituals, they say. It's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: probably like devil worshippers or something. I don't know. I'm
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: only saying that. I'm using that term because we have
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: those at some of the places that we've gone and
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: done some of our cryptid research. And kind of that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: and all this high energy activity, it kind of goes
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: hand in hand, Bruce. These backwoods, these cults know, I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: say backwoods, like it's probably like offensive to them, right?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: But they know where these places of high energy are,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I think. And that's where they go do their rituals, probably.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: And this is one of those places, Bruce.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think where they do, where so much has
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: happened in that swamp area, that they created the high energy. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably so. Probably portals and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, well. Okay, well,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: before we get into what the target is tonight, let's
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: look at some more. Let me pull up some. Here,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: let's pull this up. I want to show a map.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I really like to show these maps of the cryptids. Oops.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Hold on. Let me come back here. I got too
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: many tabs open tonight. Once again, as always, cryptids... North Carolina.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Let's pull this one up. Okay, and I found this
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: just online on a search. If you look right here,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the creature of Dismal Swamp is up there in that
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: far right-hand corner, y'all. Okay, so y'all check that out
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: up there. And so it kind of gives you a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: nice little overview of some of the different cryptids that
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: we have in North Carolina. I think Yuari's kind of
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: right there in the middle where that devil guy is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's where Yuari is. Hold on. I've got
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to pull this up. Look at all the Bigfoots on
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that map. There's a couple of Bigfoots on there. The
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Beast of Bladenborough, that's actually a really interesting one. A
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: couple of different cat, three or four, four different cat-type cryptids.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: The Wampus Cat, the Beast of Bladenborough. The Devil's Tramping Ground, Bruce,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: that's a really interesting one. Have you ever looked into that?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't. I haven't had, there's so many when
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you get into that area, it's hard to keep up
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: It is. Well, that's actually an area of, I think
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: it's privately owned now. but, uh, but there's a, a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: circular piece of land where nothing grows. And they say they,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: they believe, I think some people think that like a
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: UFO landed there or something, or the devil dances around
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that circle when nobody's looking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: So, uh, but that's a, that's a weird spot. They
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: say it's really odd when you go there at night
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and camp out. Uh, but you can't, you can't camp
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: out there if you make an appointment. Okay. Make a reservation. Um, Okay,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: so we got a bunch of different cats. We got
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Black Panthers, the Santer, never heard of that one. What
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: is a Gallinipper? Never heard of that one. Okay, Gallinipper.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: We got Normie, Lake Norman, the Normie the Lake Monster.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: We got the Boojum, Bigfoot, Sukaloo, which is a giant,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot potentially, and the Moon-Eyed People. And mermaids, y'all. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: sea creatures. You name it, they got it. You name it,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: they got it. But right up there in that top corner,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: it says, here, I'll pull this up. Okay, the creature
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: of Dismal Swamp, right down here, it says, eight feet
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: tall and covered in shaggy yellow hair. It could be
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: a dogman or a different kind of Bigfoot known to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: attack pets.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, All right. Well, let's let's get it. I guess
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: let's talk about that a little bit. Hold on. Let
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: me find before we do that. Let me pull up
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: another site for you all to see real quick. I'll
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: stop sharing. I feel like an old lady sometimes. It
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: takes me forever to get stuff done, y'all. OK, let's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: just go to this article real quick. This is from.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: What does that say? Heavenly notice dot com. HeavenlyNotice.com. North
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Carolina Monsters, Myths, Legends, and Ghosts. Creatures and Paranormal Series.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: The Dismal Swamp Creature. And let's see. I wanted to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: kind of scroll down because they have other creatures that
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: are reported down there. And this is one they're calling
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the Dismal Swamp Creature. Okay, like I said, there's a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: lot of different creatures out there, Bruce. Okay, but this
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: is the Dismal Swamp Creature. They say it's a formidable
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: apex predator or guardian uniquely evolved for the punishing wetland terrain.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Descriptions vary among the rare individuals who claim to have
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: crossed this path. Several chilling commonalities emerge. It says standing
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: and imposing seven to nine feet tall, the entity possesses
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: a massively muscled bipedal frame that suggests immense physical strength.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: It's said to be draped in a fur, a thick, dark,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: shaggy hair, subsequently caked with mud, duckweed, and swamp debris,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: an accidental camouflage that helped it blend seamlessly into the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: gloom of the forest. Perhaps the most settling are its eyes,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: which witnesses describe as catching the dim light of the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: swamp to emit an eerie reflective red or yellow glow.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And despite its towering bulk, the creature moves with a
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: haunting supernatural grace. Hunters and trappers have reported fleeting encounters
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: to emphasize its startling agility. It navigates knee-deep muck, tangled briars,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: and treacherous blackwater canals with absolute silence, vanishing before a
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: witness can even steady their nerves, adding to its distinct
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: sensory profile as a heavy, pungent odor. Okay, this right
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: here actually sounds like a Bigfoot, Bruce.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Park rangers have said that it was
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a Bigfoot, between seven and seven and a half feet tall.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: But here's the kicker, it only eats leaves.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Is that normal for Bigfoots? Because I've had somebody tell
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: me that Bigfoot only eat, they only eat vegetarian diets.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if I believe that either.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I've not heard of them eating leaves until this one.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I heard about this one several years. I think it
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: was in the 80s I heard about this one. But bark,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: we have Bigfoot that eat bark off of trees. Mm-hmm. So, yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's very believable that they would be eating
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the leaves.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Ooh. You know, isn't there like a Bigfoot that was
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: on video down in, I want to say the bayou
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: down in Louisiana, maybe Mississippi or Louisiana. And it was
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: like peeling bark off of a cypress tree or something.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Yes. And they, the locals termed that around St. Charles
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Parish as a skunk ape.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Skunk ape, stinky ones. Yeah.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Well, okay. Well, this is what this kind of sounds
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: like with this creature that we're reading about right now.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It says, adding to its distinct sensory profile is a heavy,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: pungent odor. Those few who caught a close whiff describe
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: it as foul, intensely musky stench, reminiscent of wet earth,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: rotting vegetation, and wild musk. A trade it shares with
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Florida's infamous skunk ape. Smells like, I'm just going to say,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I was about to say it smells like my kid
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: when he comes home from school now. But anyways. I digress.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Love you, kid. Over there. Okay. But yeah, it says
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: that they are... Encounters with the dismal swamp creature are
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: rarely face-to-face showdowns. And they're very sporadic, frantic, brief, typically
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: occurring within the swamp's interior where human intrusion is rare. Okay.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But old-timers and modern sportsmen alike whisper findings... Finding massive
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: five to six foot.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Five to six toad... footprints pressed deep into the mud
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: near isolated sloughs tracks abruptly end where the ground turns
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to water or where the canopy allows for an aerial
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: escape interesting i guess they're insinuating that maybe they climb
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: trees and stuff but sometimes they hear bone chilling roars
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: i guess and vocalizations guttural roars shrill screams hollow wood
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: knock or a mouth click whatever you believe y'all that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: no native fauna from black bears to bobcats can replicate.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I know what that sounds like. And I know you
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: do too, Bruce. So that's cool. So what I think
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: we've got going on here with this creature that is
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: oftentimes featured in some of these articles they talk about
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: for the dismal swamp creature, probably Bigfoot. Okay, probably Bigfoot.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And let's see. I got another. I've got one more article.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Let's pull up another one real quick before we get
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: to the intended target for tonight.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: If I can see. Good Lord, I'll tell you what.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I'm getting old. Was it that one? Hold on. Let
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: me make sure I got this one right. The Great.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Hold on.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: The Great Dismal Spot. Here we go. Like I said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'm getting old, y'all. I can't see. Okay, I think
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: this is it. Or no. Nope, that's the wrong one. Sorry,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I got the wrong one. That's actually from Squashable. If
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: you guys go to Squashable, the writers over there oftentimes
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: feature my channel on there. So thank you to the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: beautiful people over at Squashable online. Y'all are awesome. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: really do appreciate y'all very much. And let's see. that it?
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Is that it? Like I said, hold on. There's the ghost.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: That's not it. There's it. That's it. I got it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: If you're listening on podcast platforms, you guys go over
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: to the YouTube channel and check it out. I know
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I sound like a chicken with my head cut off tonight, y'all. Okay.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: The Great Dismal Swamp. This is from colonialghost.com. Colonial Ghosts.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Bruce, you know what? When
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I was a kid, my grandparents took us, me and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: my sister, to Colonial Williamsburg for a vacation. Boy, I
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: tell you what, that was, that was real exciting for
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: a couple of 12-year-old, 12 and 9-year-olds, I tell you what.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: The most exciting part of that was getting put in
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the gallows, actually. We got stuck with our heads and
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: our hands stuck in the, is that called the gallows?
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's where they hang people, actually, but where
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: they put you in the stocks or whatever.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was the most exciting part about that whole
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: trip actually. And I do not recommend for kids, but,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: but anyway, it was a fun experience. Somebody actually put a,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: left a cigarette and the one of my sister was
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: in and it started smoking and catching on fire while
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: she was stuck in it. So, so anyways, that happened, but,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but this is all very much, I think this is
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: pretty close to colonial Williamsburg. If I'm not mistaken. Um,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: cause we were definitely staying in Norfolk or Virginia beach,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: that area over there. So, uh, but anyways, I digress.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I digress. I'm sure that place is a lot of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: fun these days. I'd have a lot more fun as
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: an adult there now. Um, but, uh, but this is a,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: an interesting, um, rundown on the dismal swamp. And I
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: wanted to also note that a lot of very famous
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: authors have written about this, including Edgar Allen Poe. And, uh,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: and if you guys want to know, uh, More about
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: all this, check out this website. There's a whole bunch
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: of other websites. It said, it's more than just a
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: spooky haunted swamp, but with its eerie fog and dark waters,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the swamp has been a backdrop to countless ghost stories.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: And during the era of slavery, the swamp served a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: secret refuge for runaway slaves, creating a powerful, dismal swamp
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: history of survival and courage. It's also the origin of
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: many works of literature, such as Edgar Allan Poe's The Lake.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Now y'all know there's a lady of the lake. Okay.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Lady of the lake is here in the swamp. Uh,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Thomas Moore's a ballad, the lake of the dismal swamp
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: and Harriet Beecher Stowe's dread a tale of the dismal swamp.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's, those are some pretty, very well-known authors
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: right there. Uh, writers for sure. And let's see, let's
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: just read a little bit of this. Uh, So it
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: says American Indians lived in the swamp before the arrival
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of the colonists. Villages of various tribes, including the Chesapeake
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and the Chowan, once dotted the swamp's perimeter, the Indians
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: would venture deeper into the marsh when they needed to
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: hunt or fish. The adventures in the Great Dismal Swamp
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: inspired a multitude of myths and fables, including the sad
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: story of the Lady of the Lake. Another tells of
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: a witch who supposedly transformed herself into a cypress tree
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in order to escape from a pack of vicious hunting dogs.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And then two famous poems were written about the swamp,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: including the Edgar Allan Poe's The Lake, an Irish poet,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Thomas More's Ballad, The Lake of the Dismal Swamp. And
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: let's see. Okay. Legends of literature. All right. So this
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: is all about the Lady of the Lake. And let's see.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: This is just talking more about what they wrote about it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. Haunted.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's Williamsburg right there. I'll be darned. Speaking of
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the devil. If the great dismal swamp has caught your attention,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: get ready for even darker side. Said historical sites are
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: steeped in eerie encounters, strange happenings, restless spirits. Anyways, go
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: to Colonial Williamsburg, y'all. It's fun. But don't expect your
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: kids to have a super good time there because I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: know I did not when I was a kid. But anyways.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: All right. So there's that. Let's just say it just
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: goes way back, man. Way back. And so we talk
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: about there being a lot of trauma. A lot of
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: cryptids go and their ghost stories are out where the
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: trauma has been on land and stuff. Especially this kind
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: of a property right here would be where there'd be,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: like I said, high energy and a lot of different critters.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: So there's that. Well, let's get into our dog man. OK,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: let's get into the dog man story right here. And
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: this comes from a newspaper article actually from 1902. Now,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pull up. I believe this is the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Library of Congress. And you can go and you can
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: type in any date for any newspaper that you know of.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: You're looking for a particular article. And you should be
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: able to find the article. These are the original newspapers.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: This is from the Richmond Dispatch out of Virginia. Okay.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: And this is from, let's see what date. Hold on.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to find
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: exactly which page it's on. It's either somewhere between pages
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: three and six of this newspaper article right here.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Let me get my light back on. We'll go over this. Okay,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: so this is from the Richmond Dispatch. It's from February
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the 18th, 1902. There's an article that describes encounters with
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: a creature known as the Dismal Swamp Monster. This is
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: what they were calling this thing, Bruce. And according to
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the article, it's described as having, this monster is described
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: as having Long, tall form, vicious eyes, and shaggy yellow hair.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: It killed seven of Edward Smith's dogs. It ate two
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of them. And it attacked Mr. Smith himself. The creature
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: reportedly was unfazed by gunfire with six of the witness's
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: dogs fleeing in terror at the sight of it. I'm
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: thinking this man must have been a hunter, Bruce. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of hunting dogs or something. Because what
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: is that, like 12, 13 dogs total right there? That's
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of dogs. But that's not that uncommon for
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: people who live out in the country. My family all
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of dogs, right?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yep. We had 26 beetle hounds at one time.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. That's a lot.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: We had a kennel.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Was that for hunting?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, for hunting. We trained them and hunted.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well....
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: It says that this creature was unfazed by gunfire, Bruce,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and that the dogs fled in terror at the sight
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of it. The monster was later spotted at the home
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: of Henry Jordan, another man in the area, and it
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: appeared at a well where he was getting his water,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I guess. And, of course, it caused panic amongst the locals.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: And actually, the article actually does mention, too, there's a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: similar incident from around 10 to 15 years prior. In Hanover,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: in Henrico. Now, let me tell you, Henrico is where
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I did the show about the Henrico werewolf. Or Henrico,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: however you pronounce that. But they said there was a
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: lion or tiger. That is wild. This would have been
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: in the late 1800s. There was a lion or a
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: tiger reportedly seen prowling through the countryside. It was later
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: discovered to be a huge mastiff, they said. But, okay,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, Bruce. What did Dogman look like? They
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: have a mane, right?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Well, here in the Appalachian Mountains, the elders called the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: dog man a lion for years because it had the
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: heavy mane in favor of the lion. And, of course,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: they only seen them in lions in pictures, so that's
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: what they associated it with.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I got to wonder if there was a,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe kind of a mix up here somewhere between like
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: seeing a lion and not to say there couldn't have
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: been a lion or a tiger or something here, you know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: in that area at the time.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Mean, they had potentially had hyenas and stuff running around
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the Appalachians back then as well. So could have been that.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: But the way they described this thing was it was bipedal. OK,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: this thing was bipedal and it it had yellow hair
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: like a lion. I would think that a lion would have,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: that'd be yellow hair with the mane.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you look at the dog man that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: followed me home, it was half black and one side
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of it was all buckskin colored with deer. So it
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: would have that orange, brown, tan look to it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Well, my good, good friend, Mark Maycheck, rest in peace, Mark. He,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: he's come on the show before and told us about
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: his dog, one of his dog man encounters at the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: land between the lakes. He said that the dog man
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: that he was looking at, he thought it was a
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: deer because it was the color of a deer, which
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: is going to be like a kind of a blonde. Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Kind of like a yellow blonde, I guess. But he
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: said that when he finally realized what he was looking at,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: he realized it was a dog man that had white
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: paint smeared down the sides of his face. And like
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: war paint.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. So.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: So they do. They come in all colors.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: These dog men.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: That's pretty fascinating.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well. Okay. By the way.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It says.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Another little bit of interesting information. About that lion that
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: they saw. They say that. that it was initially believed
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: to be a large feline, despite the fact that lions
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: are not native in North America. And then somebody came
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: forward and said that it was a large mastiff dog.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: But mastiffs don't have manes on them either. They don't
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: have tufts of hair on their back usually. Not that
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I know of, Bruce.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Some can, but back then I wouldn't think somebody would
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: have had a mastiff back then. And then with that
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: many people describing it, you're talking about what I call
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the ancestral dogman.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, a dogman. That's what I think, too. I think
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it was probably a dogman. But, you know, dogmen are
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: known to attack dogs, especially big dogs. You know, I've
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: seen pictures of an entire kennel of German shepherds ripped
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: to shreds. And it was believed dogmen did that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: And I've never seen a mastiff walk on two legs.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Especially not tall, you know, seven foot mastiff or whatever.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: And I would think that this man that got attacked,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: what was his name? Mr. Smith, I think.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I would think that he would know what he was
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: looking at. If he's got dogs and stuff. I mean,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: it just sounded to me like he was describing something
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: more like a werewolf or something. in the actual article
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: right here. So I don't know.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: If you keep in mind, back in those days, people
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: hunted every day for food. True. So they knew every nook, corner,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: every tree, every spot for coons, squirrels, all the best
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: spots were. So for something like that to attack him
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and him not know what it was, then, yeah, I
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: would say dog man.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I would say Dog Man, too. That's what I'm going
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: to assume. But, you know, I don't know. This area,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know if we mentioned this, 112,000
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: acres of a swampland out there. And, uh, by the way, uh,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I've, I've also covered, I mean, I love
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: covering swamps. Okay. Because we, we have a, the Okefenokee
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: swamp down here in Georgia and it's down in far
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: South Georgia. I live on the opposite end of Georgia
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: up in the North, Northwestern side. But, uh, but, you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: people have historically been attacked by large bipedal creatures in
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: our swamps from the beginning of, especially Europeans coming and
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: settling in these lands, we had the 1829 Okefenokee attack
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: of the giant. There's a giant attack down in the Okefenokee.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: And some people believe that was like a clan of
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Bigfoots out there, but I think it was giant humans, Bruce.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: And the people who live down there say, no, it
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: was well known there was a race of giants that
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: lived deep within that swamp. Back in the early 1800s
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: and before. I think they were hiding out, actually, to
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: try to get away from all the regular humans that
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: were showing up down there.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: There was a race of natives that stood at seven
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to seven, like seven to seven, eight. So almost eight
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: foot tall.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Well, dang. Okay.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe humans are just bigger back in the day,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: before one of the last resets we had. We're the
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: little ones.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Well, actually, the ones from the people from the 20s, 30s,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and 40s were the little ones. Most men back then
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: were 5'5, 5'6, weighed 130 pounds. Wow.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty small, actually.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, let me ask you about this, too, because
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: you know probably more about dog men than I do.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: You've seen more up close than I have. And what
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: do you think about whatever this was attacking me and
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: so brazen to go and attack a man's dogs right
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: in front of him and rip them to shreds and
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: eat them? It wasn't like it just ripped them apart.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: It actually fed upon them in front of this man.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And he watched them. Is that typical or normal, do
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: you think? For dog meat?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I believe it is because even though it attacked him,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it didn't kill him or eat him.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: So it only went after his dogs, and his dogs
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: were probably chasing it to start with. That's what hunting
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: dogs do. Oof. But from this part of the Appalachians
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: on over into North Carolina and Virginia, I don't know
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of any cases where a dog man actually kills someone.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, there could be, but I've never heard of it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that sometimes. I know anytime I've
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: had Vic Cundiff on my show, he's like, you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: they don't typically attack people. But if you go to
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: YouTube and stuff and you start typing in dog man,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you see dog man attacks, you know, everywhere. Because it does...
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: bring in the viewers to come watch stuff, you know,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and to get the attention of people. But in all practicality,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: in all honesty, they're really not out there attacking humans.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: They're really not. I mean, they do, you know, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: here I am talking about this. We're going to the
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Land Between the Lakes on Saturday. and where potentially an
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: entire family got mauled to death. Now, I personally think
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: that whatever got them, I think they were werewolves. I
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: think it was a little different than dog men, personally.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, there is a big difference there, and that's where
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of people get it confused. A werewolf will
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: tear you to shreds. They have the size about them.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: You've got to keep in mind that a dog man
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: has got the upper part of a human man But
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: he can be knocked off balance. Where a werewolf, you're
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: talking a totally different game there. It doesn't make any
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: difference to him whether it's a human being or an animal.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Or a dog man, it does.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, well, that's what I think is going on
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: at the LBL. That's what I think personally is going
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: on at the LBL. I think there's dog men out there,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: but I think that potentially would harm that family were werewolves,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I think. Okay, that's what I think. But there is
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: a distinction. I know we get real nitpicky over here
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: because I'm the cryptid hunter, y'all. We got to. Okay,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: we got to. We're trying to figure out this stuff.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: But however, I was given this. I was tasked with
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: a set of coordinates to remote view, and it turned
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: out to be This dismal swamp dogman creature. Okay. And
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: not knowing if it's a dogman or what. But I
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: have some very interesting data on this, Bruce. And I
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: figured we'd go over that tonight. Just briefly. It's always fun.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I think the fun thing. The funnest thing that I've
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: seen lately. And it's actually kind of dangerous, I think.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Is that I'm noticing a pattern of military involvement. Some
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: of this stuff. And I'm not saying there's military involvement
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: in this is from 1902. Okay. But government land and
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: military bases are very much becoming a very clear pattern
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: in this remote viewing data for these dogman encounters. Okay. And,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: and actually I'm not gonna lie. There's, this one's no different.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Even though this is from 1902, there's still some kind
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: of involvement. I do believe with this being some kind of,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: government connection or something like that. So let's see. Thank you,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Amy Edlow. Thank you so much for giving the Cryptid
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Hunters membership today. Thank you so much for that. I
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: appreciate your support, Amy. You're awesome.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: All right. Let me take that down. Thank you again, Amy.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Let me, let me go ahead. I'm going to stop
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: sharing that. Let's get into some of this data. I
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: meant to pull up some pictures. I made some, I
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: made some like AI art of like some blonde dog men.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I forgot to upload them. but I could probably get
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: it uploaded while we're talking. Man, Bruce, I tell you what,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I've been swamped busy. If that's a term, I've been swamped,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: so to speak. As far as being busy goes, it
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: has been absolutely crazy.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has. And amongst all my... Go ahead.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, go ahead. You go ahead.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Amongst doing all my research on the Patty film, This
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: evening I had to work on my grandson's game car.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: He calls it his game car. It's a little Nissan Cube.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And I didn't realize I was going to have to
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: pull the whole top of the engine off of it
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: just to change the coil packs and the spark plugs.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Oh, that's always fun. Is this the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: same grandson that is a race car driver?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: No, this is another one.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Another one. Okay.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: This is a gamer. I think him and Ashes has
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: hooked up a couple times.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, cool. All right. Okay. Well, for whatever reason, it's
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: not letting me pull up my pictures of the dog
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: man tonight. Okay, y'all. So I'm sorry about that. But anyways.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get into the data for this target tonight.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I find this fascinating. I find everything fascinating, apparently.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: But okay.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. let's see here. This is for the dismal swamp
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: dog man or monster encounter of 1902, whatever this creature is.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and so let's see, let's get into some
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: of the sensory data we've got for this one. Okay.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: We've got dark, wet, slick, sour, sharp, mad, wide, and hairy, mad, wide,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: and hairy. I'll tell you what, that sounds like somebody
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: But, uh, Okay. So the analytic overlay for this target,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: we've got danger, water, death, and I was smelling what, okay.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: It's either iron or copper. I wrote down iron or copper.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I was smelling that iron or copper and I wrote
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: down blood. Okay. Cause you know, it's got that like
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: metallic smell to it. If you ever been around, like,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've, I've been around a good bit of
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: blood in my lifetime. Okay. Uh, I'm, different occasions people
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: getting hurt and stuff and um i smelled that that's
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: what i was smelling iron or copper blood okay um
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: let's see i wrote down easy food easy living wide
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: range complete nutrition i wrote down fur covered animal that's
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: what i wrote i wrote down that very large muscular
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: build i actually was thinking i was looking at a
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: bigfoot or a dog man i wrote down I wrote
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: down decapitation giants, decapitation giants, something that was bipedal.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Decapitation giants. You know what that, I think that that
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: was reminding me of was the, that's why I mentioned
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: the Okefenokee giant attack of 1829. Because whatever giant was
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: in that swamp, that's what I was kind of, I
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: think I was kind of focusing in on that or
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I was, I was sensing that. It popped off the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: head of like two of those men. I think five
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: of those hunters that went out there looking for whatever
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: was leaving those big tracks. It decapitated those guys. And
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: so that was kind of where I was. I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: that's where my data was kind of going with that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And so it's interesting because that was a swamp and
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: this is a swamp as well. It's supposed to be
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: near a swamp.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Well, in this target, I was also picking up on
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: a range finder.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: A range finder. I was looking at, I kept seeing
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: like the scope of a gun, like the site inside
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: of a gun, like the target. And I actually drew
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: that like a target right there. And I wrote in
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: the scope side of a gun, something, whatever I was
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: looking at was organic and biological. I wrote down biological,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: organic and biologics. which is interesting because I had, you
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: don't hear the word biologics very often unless they're talking
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: about ETs or something, you know, like in the news,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I guess. So, but I wrote something that was organic
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: and biological.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Could have been, uh, uh, uh, swamp matter.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Could have been, could have been, well, that's, well, that's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: interesting because I wrote down, uh, right after that, I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: wrote down natural environment, woods, water, wet area, and swampy.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Um, I wrote down something that was a relic or relics.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: And then I wrote down military base. Dang it. I mean,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: maybe that's what it is today. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be a refuge today. But I mean,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: I have to wonder, are there like military operations that
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: go on in places like this? Like, do they ever
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: go out there and do any kind of like practice
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: operations or anything, you think?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: You got Virginia that has the tunnels that run across
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: the United States. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Norfolk's a big Navy base, isn't it?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, Norfolk. I've been there quite a bit. And
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: then you have British Columbia, which is right above it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: And then you have your tunnel systems that run across
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the United States from there. Ooh.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Okay.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: That's all military.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I wrote down a military base with a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: question mark beside it. Okay.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: And I wrote government owned land, nature preserved national park
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: or state park. That's what I was. I thought that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: I was in a national park or state park or something.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: And something that the government owned.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Let me run one by you here. Okay. Northwest River Park.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's in that exact area.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Northwest River Park. Shall I look that one up real quick? Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Look that one up.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Northwest River Park. Chesapeake Bay, Virginia.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Northwest River Park. Okay. I can pull up pictures. Should
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I pull up the information on that or just the pictures?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Either way. Okay.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Let me just share the screen. Here we go. Okay.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: That is a State Park. Is that a state park? Yes.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that looks squatchy, don't it?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Well, you had 1981 park rangers and campers identified unusual
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: sounds and had encounters with large black bipedals that some
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: of the campers thought were gorillas.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. They thought they were gorillas.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: That's cool. Do you think they were actually gorillas?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: No, bigfoot. Yeah. In 1982, a 17-year-old had seen one
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: deer hunting as eight-foot tall, a gorilla-like creature. with black fur,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: human hands, again, eating leaves.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Eating leaves?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Park Rangers, in their report, wrote that it was a vegetarian.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: A vegetarian?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: That is really interesting.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Well, those seem to be like Bigfoot-type creatures, for sure.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if there's been any kind of dogman
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: sightings over this way.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to look up the dogman
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: reports from this area today before we went live. But
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: that's interesting.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's dogmen in that area. Oh, yeah? Mm-hmm. Huh.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: What does Lawrence say here? He says the werewolves that you, they,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: they're using, they're not tampering with DNA. They're using dark magic.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: That's with the werewolves. That's what I think, too. Dark
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: magic goes up to the highest levels of some of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: our military projects. This is for entertainment purposes only. Just
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: look at Michael Aquino and stuff. 100% of the church
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: is set and all that. They weaponize everything, y'all.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Werewolves are known to be in low-lying areas, swampy areas, too.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: So that's a good, good spot. Um, sewer, they got
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: one that called, uh, what, uh, stinky feet or skunky foot.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Skunk foot. I think you sent me that earlier.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Skunk foot. So that's, uh, I'm believing that one's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: a dog man. And, uh, uh, cause it was blonde
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: in color. One of them was blonde in cover. Uh,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Walked on all fours, but stood and walked on two legs.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Completely covered in blonde, bleached blonde, as one of the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: eyewitnesses said. Wow.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: So, blonde. That's another blonde. Yep. What's up with that?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: We don't hear about those too often, do we? I don't.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Uh-uh. And they said they first thought it was a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: horse walking up on two legs, and now horses will
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: do that. Wow. But when they seen the face, they
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: realized it wasn't a horse, but it had the body
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: of a horse.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Whoa, that's weird.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: And that was actually in a district park ranger's report
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: of what the camper told them. Man. Okay.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: That's weird. It had the body of a horse.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Body of a horse. Okay. Okay.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Well, if you just go north of there, up into
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: the Adirondacks, that area, a buddy of mine came on
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: the show a long time ago. And he had had
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: me remote view a... Turned out to be a horse
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: humanoid that his dad's neighbor had found on his property.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: It was alive when he found it. And it was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: like a.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: It had....
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: It almost had like the body of a human and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: the head of a horse. And it was huge. Like
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: the guy actually got it on top of his truck.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: And the whole animal, the whole creature like went over
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: the cab and the bed of his truck. I'm not
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: sure how he got it on his truck. I don't
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: know if he used a backhoe or he did it.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: He pulled it up there. I don't know what he did.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I can't remember. But they said that it was so
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: sickly when they found it. The kids were poking at it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: The neighbor kids were poking at it with sticks and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: the sticks were going in its skin like a hot
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: knife and butter, he said. But it was something that
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: was huge. It had the face of a horse. It
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: was like a humanoid horse or something.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it was that color.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was. I want to say it was
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: a light color, maybe more like kind of gray. He
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: said it was like real sickly. Real sick. I mean,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: what on earth could that be, though, Bruce? I think
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: they're doing experiments and stuff. Maybe this thing got out
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: of a place like, you know, Plum Island or, I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: don't know, Plum Island or Dulce.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Well, if they genetically modified something like that and it
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't any use to them, it might have been just
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: released there to see what the outcome would be. Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Well. Well, it's kind of an abomination.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: And I feel sorry. I feel sorry for those creatures,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: whatever they're creating out there. That ain't right.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: We're seeing more in the fisheries of these strange looking things, too.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: We're seeing bass that have a crappie body. All these
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: different things are happening. And this has happened since COVID. Really?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Yes. A bass with a crappie body. I call them crappies.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Everybody else calls them crappies. I call them crappies.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some people call them sockeye.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: You know. But, yeah. We had a report of a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: striper that had a catfish head, but a striper body.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: What? I bet that's from pollution and stuff.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Or....
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Or not.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Or nuclear runoff like Oak Ridge and places, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Those sludge plants, those sludge... I call the sludge swamps. Oh, man.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: What happens if you eat one of those?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would. I would throw it back.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Well, see, some people may not know. Like, if they
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: see it, they're just like, oh, it's just a fish.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: They're going to take it home and fillet it and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: serve it to the family. You know what I mean?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Oof.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Oof.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, it can't be any different. What was that senator from,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: was it Louisiana? Kennedy? He was like, he went before
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: Congress and was like, well, this is what happens if
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: you eat the What is it? It's like the toxic
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: shrimp from Walmart or something.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: This is what you're going to look like if you
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: eat that neon yellow shrimp from Walmart. It's for entertainment
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: purposes only, y'all. We're just entertaining y'all tonight. But yeah,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: it makes me want to be a vegetarian at this point.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: I really don't want to be, but if I had to,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: I would.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: You have to raise your own animals to be safe. Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Man, I tell you what. Yeah, it's wild out in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: these streets.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Well, let me finish up the data. I just got
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit more data to go over for this
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: dog man, werewolf type creature or whatever that attacks dogs. Okay,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: so the last thing that we went over was a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: nature preserve, a national or state park where I thought
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: I was. And I was kind of getting the vibe
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: like maybe a military base or something that was government owned.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Now that could be today and then the target was
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: whatever that was at was back then, but I was
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: picking up on whatever it is today. It could be that.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Um, I was picking up on, okay, what I wrote down,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: this is what I'm sensing. So like this, this is
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: analytic overlays. This doesn't mean what this is, but I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: was picking up, I wrote down flash floods or floodplain, uh,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: because what I was seeing when I was remote viewing
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: was like a, or sensing was a, a lot of water.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: And I thought maybe I would come across a place
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: that had flooded. Okay. So, uh, there's that. And then
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: I started, we call this like self-correcting the data kind
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: of because like I was picking up on like an
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: environment and then my data went back to an, a creature.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of self-corrected here at this point. I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: wrote down hiding and lurking dangerous. And I felt like
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I was in danger when I was remote viewing this.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: I wrote, I'm in danger here. And, um, And I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: wrote down trees, water, snakes, wildlife, or rainforest. I thought
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I was like in a tropical rainforest of some sort
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: because it was like so damp and wet and stuff.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: And it was all nature. And I wrote down natural habitat,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: natural animal. I kept getting this natural animal. That was
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: like a theme throughout this target was like something that
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: was organic and natural. And then I got yelled at
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: to stay out when I was remote viewing. Like something
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: literally picked up on me being there and like yelled
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: at me to stay out. so I actually ended the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: target right there. And, and, you know, honestly, Bruce, I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: think that there could be some kind of, I really
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: do think there's some kind of military government connection to
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: this area right here. And maybe the things that are
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: being kept in there, I think. And, um, and I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: just say that because I picked up on a heavy, um,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: military presence and, um, guns and things like that, that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: were out there, like, um, scopes and things that were surveying, surveilling,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I guess you call it. Uh, that's, I kind of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: felt like I was being surveilled while I was remote
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: viewing this. And, uh, like there was a lot of
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: eyes on me and stuff. And maybe that shows because
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just, I got the attention of a bunch of
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: people these days. I don't know. Um, but I, but
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I felt like I was picking up on that when
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I was doing this remote viewing target that there's, there's
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: a knowing that there's stuff out there. by higher ups,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: whoever that is. Yeah. Which could, could actually be kind
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: of dangerous for people who are wanting to remote view
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: targets like this. You know, that's why I'm real particular
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: about like who I let give me targets. I think
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: this was a kind of an innocent one, you know, but,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: but there are people always watching. Okay. And, and especially
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: in this day and age when all, what I do
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: is getting more popular and stuff and, you know, I mean,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: most remote viewers, like real remote viewers, don't talk about
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: their targets. I hate to say that. They don't talk
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: about them publicly. And I'm doing this, so it's kind
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: of not smart.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: But anyways, when it comes to this kind of stuff,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: let's do a summary of this.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: According to the remote viewing data, this is some kind
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: of bipedal gigantic. There's a large creature. Whatever attacked those dogs,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: it is bipedal. It's covered in fur. It's natural. It's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: not like a man-made DNA experiment. or anything like that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: it was something that was natural organic and and it
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: was dangerous it was vicious and i think i think
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: it was a dog man okay because i wrote down
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: well i don't know because i wrote down bigfoot as
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: well i wrote down bigfoot and dogman it's both in
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: my data here uh it could have been either but
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: it was something very large and a muscular build okay
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: so that could be either um i mean bigfoots will
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: rip your head off too bruce.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I was picking up more of a hog squatch.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: A hog squatch?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Didn't we go over those? Didn't we do that on
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: our last show we did? What was that? I forgot
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: what we called those.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: They sound more like a hog squatch because a hog
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: squatch will eat the dogs right there on the scene. Oh,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: my gosh.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: They also eat, yeah, like pig men. That's what we
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: talked about before we did the show on the pig men, right?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Did you come on the show for that? Was that Robbie?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: It was probably Robbie.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: It was Robbie. Okay. We did a show on pig men,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: but see the pig men were actually, I was picking
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: up more on like Bigfoot or dog men. There's dog
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: men and Bigfoot that actually kind of look, they had
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: like a pig nose on them kind of. And I mean, that,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: that could very well be what this is, but whatever
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: it is, they're pretty daggum healthy. Whatever it was, it
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: was very healthy. And, and I think that considering this data,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I think that those dogs were like an easy meal
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: for it or something. It must not have been that
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: easy if it was getting shot at. Okay. But, but
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: easy living, easy food.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: Very large fur covered animal.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I'm still sticking with dog man, but.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I'm sticking with dog man too. I think this was
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: a dog man.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yep, I believe so, too, because it didn't kill
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: the farmer or the hunter. And so dog man doesn't
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: do that. Now, a werewolf will, but dog man won't.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was a werewolf. I think it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: was a dog man. Larry says Gugway. Gugway.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Gugway would eat everything, gun and all.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: It would. It would have attacked that man, right? Don't
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: you think it would have attacked that man if it
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: had been in Dugway?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Yep. It would have been into a rage. It would
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: have killed anything around.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, that's scary. Well, you know, okay, so in
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: the article, actually, of that newspaper, it said that it was,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: hold on, what is the exact quote? Hold on. I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: got the quote here. Talk about how it scared the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: superstitious locals. Superstitious locals. Superstitious. Now, that's kind of an
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: interesting word. OK, wording. Everything's about wording.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And superstitious. Did they think maybe it was a werewolf?
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: You think? I mean, werewolves were probably pretty popular back
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: in the early 1900s. Our most famous werewolf out of
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Georgia was Emily Isabella Burt. She was born in the
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: late 1800s and she was actually diagnosed with lycanthropy. And
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I think that that was kind of, maybe it was
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: because of the literature back then. The books that were
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: being written, the, you know, European Gothic literature and stuff had,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, Frankenstein, werewolves, ghosts and vampires in it. And
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe witchcraft was a thing back then
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: too around this area.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: A lot of that was practiced in swamps for some reason.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: With the old hags, old witches. Yeah.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: They weren't in gingerbread houses, that's for sure.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Well, like Hansel and Gretel, right?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, also, this is the area that could be
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: territory for spearfinger as well.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: And witches like that. Oh, by the way, one of
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: the stories of the legends for this area is actually
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: of a hunting party. There were some hunters that actually
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: went missing, and they fell off the face of the earth,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: and so they went. Searching for the hunting party, like
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: some of some of the friends of the hunting party
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: that didn't show up where they're supposed to be, went
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: out looking for them and they encountered a deer. Well,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: they started chasing. They saw this deer. It transferred into
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: a woman and they captured this woman. I think they
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: ended up unaliving her. OK, but they she was literally
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: like a skinwalker, I guess you could say.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Was there a moon eyed people in this area? Because
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: that sounds like a moon eyed.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Could i'm sure there were yeah this is the area
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: of the Moonite people. The Moonite people were more towards
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: the Appalachians, towards the western side of North Carolina. But
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they were over on the east side, too,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I would think.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially around the swamp areas. Yeah. Yeah, that could
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: be a protein diet. That could have been a little
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: bit bigger than normal.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You say a protein diet?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of humans.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: They were vegetarians.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: I prefer vegetarian Bigfoots, okay, any day. I'd rather come
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: across a vegetarian dogman, actually. That'd be great.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: That's not going to happen with their big old canines
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: and stuff, right?
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: No, but one good thing about it, there's enough roadkill
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: out there. People don't pick it up and take it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: home and pry it no more. Dogman's got pretty a
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: lot to eat.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Was that a common occurrence where people would take home
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: a roadkill?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were going down the road and there's
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: one on the side of the road, you got out
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: and checked it. If it wasn't blue or torn up
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: real bad or no maggots in it, you could smell
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: of it and tell if it was bad or not.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: I hope you guys are not having dinner tonight right now. Sorry. Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Throw that in with some cream possum and bacon pat
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: and sweet taters. God.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Ask Larry about getting them possums. Where does possums come from?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Okay. Larry. Oh man.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Auntie Erin, the deer, the deer woman, that is actually
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: a thing. Okay. Uh, there's a very cool video. I
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: think it's, I'm sure it's AI. Okay. But, but it's like, um,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: it looks like a naked lady basically. And, uh, she's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: like tiptoeing through the woods and, uh, she turns into,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: she's like a deer woman. She's got deer hooves on
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: her feet and stuff. And, uh, I've always thought that
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: was a cool video. I wished it was real, but
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: probably not.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: It's probably not. But yeah, dear woman, that is actually,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: that's a Cherokee legend, isn't it?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Is she a skinwalker?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: That's what it's believed to be. Yes. Yes. It's a trick.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: These horny old men are walking after her. As she
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: gets them.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Yeah, she's, well, it's a good way to
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: lure them in, I guess. Okay.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Especially if you're going to eat them. If you're going
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: to eat them.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: It's like the werewolves, you know. People mistake them with skinwalkers.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: And a lot of times, you know, it could be
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: your neighbor down the road and turn into a werewolf
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: and you're had.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's. I always feel sorry for all these little
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: dogs and stuff. You know, people on TikTok, one of
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: my favorite news sources over there.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Just joking, y'all. There's all these videos of people who
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: their dogs show up and they're trying to get in
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: the house and they don't look exactly right. And the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: people are like, that's not my dog. And they're very
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: mean to their animals. And it makes me mad. I'm like,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: even if it's an S walker, just let it in.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: You're being mean. Okay. Okay. If my dog started acting
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: like that, I'd let him in anyways. I'd just put
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: him in a crate and lock it. Okay. But I
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be mean to him. I don't know. It'd kind
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: of be cool to have a little S. Walker dog,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I think. But I'm just kidding, y'all. A not deer.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: A not deer. That's another thing that we've covered on
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: the show are not deers. And those are kind of
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: controversial a little bit, right, Bruce? Because it could be
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: chronic wasting disease or prions, I think, that make the
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: deers look like zombies.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Right. That's sad. You know, I had to shoot one
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: that had chronic wasting disease. And this thing, this thing
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: before you, 30 yards before you got to it, you
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: could smell it. And it was alive going and walking
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: in circles. It was in just a terrible mess. You
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: would think, I mean, it literally, it literally was rotting
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: on the bone while it was still alive. Oh no. Yeah.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: Oh man.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: That's just humane. Yeah. I just, I have, we had
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: to have a, we had a conversation over the weekend about,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes law, you're in law enforcement for a
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: long time. And, and sometimes when, you know, my, my
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: sister was selling, she's a dispatcher for a long time.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: She was like, you know, when sometimes people would hit
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: a deer with their car, their vehicle, and the officers
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: would have to come out and put it down basically.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: And I never knew that. I didn't know that was
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: like the, That was the protocol for that and stuff.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: It's really sad.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: We carried a little book, a Tennessee Wildlife Agency book,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: and then we had a list, and then the dispatcher
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: had a list of names. When one got hit by
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: a vehicle and it was still eatable, we would call
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: it in, and then the dispatcher would call the next
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: person in line. When they got out there, we filled
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: the tag out and then give them the tag so
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: they could legally take it. process it that's the reason
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I was talking about roadkill earlier a lot of people
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: don't do that anymore so.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah well you know it'll feed it'll feed a lot
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: of people y'all okay and I know it's a harsh
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: reality but there's a lot of people that don't have
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: food and it could help a family okay so that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: especially that's why people look at especially down here in
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: the south in the mountain region and stuff nothing goes
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: to waste y'all right Bruce nothing goes to waste Even
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: possums come out of deer butt.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Right, Larry?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: We've got that saying in Appalachia. We'll eat whatever don't
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: eat us first. Right.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Lord, that's terrible.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: PyroMed.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: What's up, Pyro? It's good to see you here tonight.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: He says, Choktaw Creek, Cherokee, Chickasaw. Many tribes have the
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: legend of the deer woman. Yeah. That's pretty cool. That's
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. This is actually a pretty well-known story out
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: of this area at the Dismal Swamp. That Dismal Swamp
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: sounds dismal, doesn't it? That's a terrible name for a swamp.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: It must be pretty harsh conditions out there, I guess.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: But that is a pretty interesting story. A lot of
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: people know about the deer woman that was out there.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: I think the saddest part about it is they ended up,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: the story goes that they actually unalived her. And I
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: think that what happened, I don't know if she caught
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: on fire or like they set her on fire. I
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: know that's terrible, y'all. I'm so sorry to tell y'all that.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: But I think when they went back, there was something
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: weird about the fire that was at the tree where
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: she was or something. I don't remember the story. I'm
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: so sorry. I wish I knew it. But there's a
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: lot of anomalies in that story. And it might not
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: have been a true story, too. It's just one of
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: those legends. They do talk about how there's lumberjacks and
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: lumbermen and loggers and stuff that are seemingly spirits that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: are seen out there. Civil war ghosts, revolutionary war ghosts,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: all that. Sounds like a great place to go get
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: chased by pill crawlers, y'all.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Bruce? Yeah.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. I think I need to make
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: a trip up there. I wasn't familiar with this area,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: but now I need to go. I need to go.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: It's interesting. You can get past the smell. you know,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: the smell, it's got a bad smell in it.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: The swamp does.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Uh, Robin, let's see. Robin has a question, Bruce. Uh,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: do you know the story of the incident that inspired
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: the Tennessee roadkill law?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Um, no, I don't. Uh, uh, I did know some
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: of it, but I don't, I don't know the, the, uh,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: whole story of, uh, It's key from what was in
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: the TCA books, which is Tennessee Code's anointed law book
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: for officers to use, is that when we have to
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: put down an animal, then it needs to be given
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: to either the person that hit it or to a.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: A less fortunate family or organization that will process it
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and give it out to the elderly people that's having
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: a hard time buying their medicines and their food too
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: so of course we don't want to give them rotten
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: meat or nothing like that so we make sure that
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: when we put it down now back then you didn't
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: have to but now you do blood tests work on
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: it and stuff too then take it to field dress
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: it and put it in the freezer your test will
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: come back in just hours and now they got field
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: tested you can test for the chronic wasting disease and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: stuff too.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: Wow yeah that's that's the thing you know people who
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: are not hunters may not know this but like there's
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: certain ways that an animal will die and you can't
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: eat the meat right and i i didn't know that
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: i've always wondered about that if they get hit by
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: a car is that is there is that okay to
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: eat it i guess it is obviously Yeah, as.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: Long as it's fresh. I mean, if it's been hit
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: within the last, you know, some hunters will go out
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: and shoot a deer and not find it for four
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: or five hours later. It's still good. When it's hit
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: with a car, it generally sounds gross, but it generally
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: busts the guts and stuff up. So it needs to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: be processed within an hour or so easy, washed out. Okay.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: One of the worst things to happen is it hit
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: a deer with your vehicle man or it hits you
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: oh lord it's terrible it ruined it'll mess your car
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: up y'all i messed it up real bad when i
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: was 15 okay when i was 15 years old uh
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: you know i was driving i've Actually, when I was 15, Bruce,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: you can appreciate this. My dad had me driving up
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: to Charlotte Motor Speedway hauling race cars behind the truck
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: up to the racetrack at 15 while he slept and stuff.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah. I was trial by fire right there.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: The interstate. You never know who's driving beside y'all. Be nice, y'all.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: No road rage.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: It could be a 15-year-old kid pulling race cars. Okay.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: So please be nice. But anyways. Um, we were driving
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: home one night, I was driving and I had my
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: dad and my sister and my brother were in the
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: car with us and, uh, and driving from my dad's
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: to my mom's house. And, uh, and a deer jumped
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: out of the woods and it, it hit the car
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: in front of us. It jumped on top of the
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: car and it totaled the car right in front of us. And, uh,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: and I'll never forget that. That was, that was really
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: scary because I kept thinking, man, that could have been me.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: You know, that could have been us. And, uh, and
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: they'll come through your windshield. They'll take your head right
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: off y'all.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one of the worst ones I worked.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: It was over on Del Hollow Dam. A daughter and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: her mama was coming back, I believe it was from church.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: And right there at the end of the Del Hollow
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: Dam itself, where they was just as they was coming
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: off a dam, a deer jumped off of a high
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: embankment and went through the windshield and killed the mother. So...
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: They will do that. You have to be careful.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: It's tragic. When I went to school, I went to
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: school down in South Georgia in college, and we all
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: had deer whistles on our vehicles.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Right, right. I remember them, yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to get deer whistles in front of
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: your car if you live out in the country, out
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: in the woods. That was actually down there by the
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: military base. I don't know if it was required that
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: everybody had those, but down near Hinesville, Georgia, a lot
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: of people had them in Statesboro. Stuff, yeah. It's important.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: CWRA, Tennessee Wildlife Resource, they just removed a 500-pound black
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: bear off a college campus yesterday. Oh, really? 500 pounds.
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  Speaker 1: That's big for a black bear around here because literally
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: 100 pitches or 300 pitches. Every now and then you
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: hear of a five, but they released it. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: kill it, so that's good. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I don't know. I would think the bears are
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: going to be coming out a little bit more right now,
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  Speaker 2: or no? Are they going to be going into hibernation
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  Speaker 2: here in the next couple months?
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  Speaker 1: No, they'll be out heavy right now, getting all the
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  Speaker 1: weight on them they can before they go into hibernation.
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  Speaker 1: And then your city bears, like in Gatlinburg, pretty much
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  Speaker 1: part of them will stay out. Yeah, hitting them taffy
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  Speaker 1: factories and candy factories and The moonshine distilleries.
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  Speaker 2: All those fudge factories down there. They got all that
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: fudge and candy and stuff. Yeah.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Now they got that mash in there where they make moonshine.
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  Speaker 1: And if they can get to it, you end up
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  Speaker 1: with a street full of drunk bears.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to have a bunch of drunk bears
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: at the moonshine festival this weekend, probably down at the LBL.
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  Speaker 2: I would not doubt that. Michigan salmon. I think that
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  Speaker 2: deer whistles work. Yes, I was told they do. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. My vehicle did pretty well. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody ever got ever hit a
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  Speaker 2: deer down there that I know of. They're my friends.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: But but anyways, yeah, man, what what an interesting this
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: has been an interesting show tonight. Very interesting topic. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I really like doing covering dogman cases and
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: werewolf cases and things like that from the early 1900s
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: and 1800s because it shows especially dogmen. Because it kind
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: of shows that these things have been around for a
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: long time in the United States. People have been encountering
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: them for a very long time. The settlers, the Native Americans,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: you name it, they've been around for a long time.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: And they've been wreaking havoc, but they've also been kind
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  Speaker 2: of hiding in the shadows.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Right? If you look at the patterns of all the
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: different shows that we have on these things, they're mostly
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: just attacking livestock. They're not really hurting humans as much.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: It's mostly cattle, pigs, goats, dogs, unfortunately. And it's kind
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: of the same today, I would assume.
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  Speaker 1: Mostly goats right now. I mean, they're not bothering anything
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: but goats and chickens right now for some reason.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you why. Everybody's got a goat farm now.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody's got goat farms. Just about everybody I know with
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: some property has goats, which is a good thing. My
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: sister's even got goats. Okay, so that says a lot
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: right there. She's got goats. That means a lot of
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: goats if she's got them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see the livestock coming back because when
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I was growing up, every ounce of the farm was
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: used for something. Now a lot of it's just grown
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: up and they've cut the timber out of it. Looks
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: like somebody dropped a bomb on one of these farms.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: You know, just tore them all to pieces. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, most people that I know that had big farms,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: including my own family, have sold their farms now. And
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: they're all a bunch of developments and stuff. So shout
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  Speaker 2: out to everybody who has land. I hope you keep
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  Speaker 2: your land, please. And grow your vegetables and have your livestock.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: And please take care of the land, y'all. And preserve it.
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  Speaker 2: If it were up to me, that farm would have
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: never been sold.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways. The development is getting out of control around
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: Metro Atlanta in Georgia. Okay, so, whatever. It is what
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  Speaker 2: it is. But up where you live, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: still a lot of farmland and country and stuff. And
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: I think that's why, like, Scott, that's on your show
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: at the Cryptid Wrangler podcast. Scott came on here talking
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: about the urban Bigfoot and the urban cryptids. And they
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: are being kind of pushed out of their environments into
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: the cities and the towns and stuff now, like the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Dogmen and the Bigfoot. So that accounts for why we're
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: seeing so many now, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: And if you live out in the country and you
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: got a, uh, uh, here in a lot of areas here, uh,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: you pay a, you pay a will tax for every
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: year to dump your garbage to dumpsters and they're fenced in.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of times they're in real rural areas
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: where these dumpsters are and they're, they're really good spots.
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  Speaker 1: It might be between 20 minutes out of town, nowhere
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: close to a house. And it's a really good spot to,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: to hang out and might even get a, a good
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: sighting of a Bigfoot or a dog man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I saw Amy's comment. She says,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Jane and Gerald have goats too.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jane and Gerald Midwest night watchers. They have goats too.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: They're on their goat cams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You can watch them live. Sometimes they have their goat
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: cams on. Um, Oh, Robin says, short version. Now, this
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: is the roadkill law.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: A law enforcement official saw a woman and a child
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: or two illegally putting a roadkill deer into the trunk.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of citing her, he helped. He helped. Single working mom.
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  Speaker 2: It was a huge source of protein for them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All it has to do is fill out. In every vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: we have a Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency ticket book. We
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  Speaker 1: fill that out. And then we get that person's name
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: and we donate it to them. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I've never taken a deer. My dad always took them.
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  Speaker 2: But does it cost a lot of money to get
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  Speaker 2: a deer processed, Bruce?
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  Speaker 1: Up until before COVID, about $ 25 here. After COVID, between
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: $ 80 and $ 125. Whoa. It used to be like $ 25
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: and they'd cut the deer up for you? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No way. That's cheap.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like that now.
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: It's well over $ 100 now. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: My dad used to do it himself. I remember him
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: cleaning the deer and then having the grinder thing on
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: the counter. We'd have all sorts of deer meat when
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: he'd go hunting and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We had the grinder. We had a board on it.
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  Speaker 1: One sitting in one chair on the board, the other
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  Speaker 1: on the other, and crank, take turns cranking it. Big dish, pan, kitchen,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: the The hamburger meat or the sausage meat, whatever we
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: wanted to make out of it. But no, I had
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: all the meat sauce and stuff. I processed my own breers.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Now, how do you test it? How do you know
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: if it has like chronic wasting disease or something? Like
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: if you were to take, you know, go hunting and
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: get a deer, could you just tell by looking at
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: it or something? Or what if you were to get
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: a not deer?
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: What if you shot a not deer, Bruce? What would
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: you do?
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  Speaker 1: Would you still eat it? You can tell. After you
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: hunted for a few years, you can tell a sick deer.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Chronic wasting is just something that's now just coming into Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: But you can watch them. You can tell. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: the smell, rib cage. They will have mangy-looking hair. There's
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: several things. Still a lot of these old hunters that
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: are farmers. They don't carry them in to get them
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: checked or anything because they can tell a good healthy deer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if it has an extra eyeball on the
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  Speaker 2: side of its head, it's probably a not deer.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, Roger Williams from over here, not to Roger
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Williams from Squatch and Holler, but Roger Williams over here
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: had a taxidermy shop. And he was my hunting buddy.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: And he'd become a taxidermist. And we had shot, he's
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: got a doe ticket, and we had shot a doe.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: And there were two together, so neither one of us
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: knew which one shot the deers, because they were right together. Well,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: one of them had six legs, had two growing out
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: of his stomach. What? And it's mounted over there. It's
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: mounted over here on Highway 70 right out of Baxter
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: in his shop. He's passed away now. but it's still there.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: Sometime I'm there, I'll talk to his wife, Geraldine, and
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: let her open it up and let me get a
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  Speaker 1: picture of it and I'll send it to you. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see that. Well, I would think, were
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: they fully grown legs or were they like little?
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  Speaker 1: No, they were about a foot and a half. About
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: a foot and a half. Oh wee. Oh wee.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: That had to have been probably from in utero, I
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: would think, where the, maybe it was twins and they'd,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm no doctor. I'm no scientist, y'all.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: But I've watched, what is that? What are those TV shows?
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Ripley's Believe It or Not and stuff.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: But I did witness this in Elmwood, Tennessee. A buck
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: and a female goat got together and they had a
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: buck deer and it was white.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: A goat and a deer?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: And she had a deer.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: She had a deer baby.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Deer baby, yeah. It was a little buck. He was
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: solid white.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: That's weird.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: How is that even possible? You don't got to answer that,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: but that's just weird. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Wow. I call it a genetic freak of nature.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, interesting. Very interesting.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to it.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: A windy goat.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Well, that's been 35 years ago. It stayed there for
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: 15 or 18 years before it passed away.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, it did?
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: What is the age span, like the age span, lifespan
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: of a deer? Of a deer?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: Of a deer? Yeah. Well, between cars, mostly now. Hunters
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: don't hunt them like they used to. Four to six years, probably. Okay.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: So many have hit cars and stuff now.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: The McElroy, that's the comment of the night right there.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: I like that. It's a wendigoat. It's a wendigoat.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Wendigoat, yeah.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: That's funny. That is so funny. Okay. Well, man. Well,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: I've actually learned some interesting stuff tonight about deer and
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: deer goats. Man, that's the first. I wasn't expecting to
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: hear that tonight.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: That's wild.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: Over in Elmwood, Tennessee, that's where it happened at. And
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: everybody in the community, it was a talk for years.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: People would drive from Nashville and everywhere up there to
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: drive up to that farm to take pictures of it.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: Magnus wants to know, are their jackalopes real? Are jackalopes real?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: I've seen them on cryptid maps before.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: No, they're not real.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: There's like snipes when you go snipe hunting, right?
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Well, actually there is a snipe bird. Yeah. But there
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: is snipe hunting at night where you take a person
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: that's never been and you give them a bag and
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: everybody else sets them in this area and everybody else
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: says we're going to run them into your bag as
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: soon as they run in the bag you close them
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: up tie them up with this grass string we're going
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: to give you well then everybody goes home and goes
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: to bed and it's generally about daylight the next morning
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: before the person figures out they've been.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Had don't the ghost nightline y'all okay oh my god Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: But jackalopes are more of a taxidermist creation.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. I've never... No, they're fake. They're fake.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, so they're fake. They are an encrypted map. I
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: think it's like Montana, maybe, or Wyoming. I think you
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: can find... They say jackalopes are out there, but I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know about that one. Taxidermists get
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: real creative A friend of mine sent me a picture
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: of a, I forgot what they call it. It was
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: actually a deer butt, but it looked like the face
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: of a Bigfoot kind of. And my friend wanted to,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: he didn't know what it was. He thought it was
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: a Bigfoot face or something. And yeah, careful y'all. Careful
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: what you buy. You might end up with a deer
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: butt on your wall. Okay. But anyways, it's all nice.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: I need to get one of those. Maybe I'll ask
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: Santa Claus for one of those this year. Okay.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: But but anyways, well, Bruce, this has been a fantastic show.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: I know you and I got to go get ready.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: I'm heading out to the LBL this weekend and I'm
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: going to be out in Kentucky on Saturday. So I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: guess I need to go get ready for that tonight.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming. But but thank you so much for being
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: here tonight. I think this has been a fantastic show.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: Once again, we always have a good time, don't we?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. We have a blast.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: What time Saturday? Is it going to be just Saturday
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: or Saturday and Sunday?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: It's just Saturday. It's just Saturday all day. 10 to 6. Yep.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: 10 to 6. 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Martin is
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: having the Martin Groves is having a Bigfoot Dogman Town
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Hall at 11 a.m. I will be there for that.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: And and yeah, I think I think that will last
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: for about an hour maybe or so. And hopefully we'll
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: get a bunch of people up there to talk about
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 2: their encounters and stuff. And and I'll speak briefly about
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: my own that I've had up there. And, yeah, it's
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: just going to be fun. Jimmy from Golden Pond Distillery
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: is going to do a live. I guess he's going
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: to do some moonshining. He's got a still set up
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: up there. Bruce, isn't that crazy? Yeah.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: He's going to do demonstrations, I guess.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Is that going to be at the distillery or over
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: at the end of the bridge in the park?
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's at the park. I'm pretty sure it's
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: at the park. I can't believe the LBL is doing that. But, oh, well.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, well.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: First time for everything.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe somebody will show up with a live dog man
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: and run him through the crowd.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: That's next year. That's next year. Stay tuned.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: The rate of all this disclosure that's going on right
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: now with the ETs, the UFOs and all that. I mean,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I think it's, I think it's imminent at some point.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: I do. At first I thought there were, I was like, no,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But now we've got all these non-human
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: looking people coming Surrounding the president at his signings at
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: Mar-a-Lago and the White House. I'm like, I don't know
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: if these people are even human. They're showing. So now
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: we got E.T. 's dog man is next.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot. It's like the bears. Most people in Tennessee didn't
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: see bears until they started coming into Gatlinburg. Of course,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: you had bear hunters and stuff in the mountains that
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen them. But I believe eventually dog man and
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot will run out of territory and they'll start coming
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: into town, too. Get them a Wendy's cheeseburger or something
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: out of the dumpster. You never know. Yeah.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: Well, they are known to be rummaging through the garbage
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: behind fast food places and grocery stores.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: Even in North Carolina. That's one of the reports that
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: David Pardue took up in North Carolina was dogmen that
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: were seen rummaging through the dumpster behind a grocery store.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: Easy pickings.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Easy pickings.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Easy pickings is what that is. Yeah, Robin says, one
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: of those deer butt wolf man things is on display
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: in the Lebanon, Tennessee town square in a store for years.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's the fake one, but there is a
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: real one that come from there, from Lebanon Sugar Platte Road.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: A real werewolf?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: No, a real bigfoot.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, a real bigfoot.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Man.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: I'd assume there's Bigfoots everywhere in Tennessee. All the towns.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: They're everywhere. They are. Well, we do know now that
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: back in 1902 and way before that, there were Bigfoots
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: and dogmen all over the Dismal Swamp. And attacking dogs.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: And how tragic that would be to watch your dogs
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: die right in front of you. And some kind of
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: gigantic creature eating it. Speaking of dogs, my dog is
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: making noise back there. You can hear that. It'd be
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: absolutely tragic. I was sent a video, Bruce, and this
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: is not public or anything, but I was shown a
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: video a while back by a friend of mine who...
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've talked about this yet, but,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: but it was a shall remain nameless, very anonymous here, but,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: but it was a hunter who had his hunting dogs
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: out in one of the Southern States. I'm just going
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: to say, okay. And, and the dogs had the collars
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: with like the trackers on them and stuff with the
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: little antenna sticking out of it. And the dogs look
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: just like my dog, Buddy. Buddy's a little hunting dog.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: But he said they had taken off on the trail
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: or something. And he said they didn't come back for
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: like 15 minutes, so he went looking for them. And
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: there were three dogs, and two of them were like,
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: he found them. They were pacing around. The other dog
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: was on the ground. It had a whole chunk taken
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: out of its whole belly. It was dead. It looked
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: like a great white. It looked like a shark had
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: bitten it. and it was it was very dead and
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: uh but i mean i think a hog could have
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: done that but this was in the middle of dog
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: man territory bruce dog man dog man everywhere up there
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: and um it's known for the dog man actually right
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: or werewolf yeah is that what it looks like when
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: a dog man attacks somebody have you seen like an
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: animal or something that's been attacked by dog man to
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: It looked like a great white had taken a bite
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: out of it on its underbelly. Did it look like that?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the way a coyote will kill a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: domestic dog, too. They'll take a bite out of its belly,
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: rip its stomach open.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. Oh, no, Ed.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: I know I'm upsetting Ed tonight. Hey, Ed. Ed Brown.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: What's up, Ed?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: You came in at the worst moment hearing about dead dogs, okay? Wow,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: that would be hard as a pet owner. It would be.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: All this. It was very sad watching that video, but
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: it was also very concerning because, you know, the two
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: other dogs survived, whatever that was, and watched that. But
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: it was very concerning with that huge chunk taken out
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: of the whole bottom part of that dog. I mean,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: it was like his whole belly was gone. It was gone. Like,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: his belly was gone.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They were assuming it could have been
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: a dog man. The man who owned the dogs didn't
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: want to assume anything. But I was told it could
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: have been a large hog, like a hogzilla or something.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: You know, like a big hog.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: Generally, a hog or a wild hog, which to us,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: would just rip them up.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this thing wasn't ripped at all. It was just
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: one nice, clean clamp. Yeah, a bite. Yeah.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Dog man. I know.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: That's, I know, I'm sorry to leave y'all on a
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: gory note tonight. Okay. But, uh, we are talking about
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: dog men.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: And, uh, but, uh, yeah, hopefully there, I mean, I've
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: also had people on my shows, Bruce, that are like,
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: you know, they have cried and been in tears talking
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: about the things they've seen, you know, the, the carnage
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: that dog men have left behind and stuff too. So, uh,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I know we always say like, Oh, they don't attack
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. They also do attack people too though.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes. Yeah.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: I think if you shoot them or back one into
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: a corner, if you shoot one with a high-powered rifle
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: or something and you don't kill it, then I think, yeah.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: If you mistakenly back one into a corner out night hunting, yeah,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think they wouldn't have any problem biting you.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: That's just their only way to escape.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: Well, when you're cornered, you're going to fight back. Any
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: kind of cornered animal or a cornered person as well, y'all.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: Some of us fight. Some of us bite, too. Some humans. Okay.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, man, that's wild. What does Larry say? It's
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: all good, Jessica. Thank you, Larry. I appreciate you. I
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: appreciate you. You and your possum butt possums over there.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: We still talk about that. I still laugh about that.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: I've got to find you a can of that creamed
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: possum with bacon fat. No, thanks. Oh, yeah.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's real.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: It's real. We'll get together sometime. I'll make up some
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: and some cat head biscuits and try it. You'll like it.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: I'll eat the cat head biscuit.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Just kidding.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: I'll try anything once, okay? Especially if you just spread
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: it on a cracker and you just eat it. Just
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: try it.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: I'll try it. Okay.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll report back to the crowd.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: To the audience one day after we do it. But anyways. Oh, Lordy. Oh,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: I wanted to take a minute. I'm so sorry, y'all.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: I've been missing all these wonderful gifts of memberships and
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: stuff on my channel. Thank y'all so much for all
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: the support. I know Amy had gifted a Cryptid Hunters
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: membership earlier today. Bobby Singleton, you have been a member
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: of the Hunt Club for nine months. Thank you so
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: much for your support, Bobby. And Amy is a new
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: member and has actually been a member for 10 months.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: And thank you so much. That was the first time
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: you came into the chat room, Amy. Thank you so
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: much for that. And Michigan Sandman, that is so sweet.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: He gifted a Cryptid Hunters membership tonight. And Bobby Singleton
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: gifted a Cryptid Hunters membership as well tonight. That is
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: so sweet of y'all. Thank y'all so much. I do
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: have a brand new video that I put out last
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: night for Hunt Club members. I call it the Hunt Club.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: My membership here on YouTube. And it's It's actually pretty fun, y'all.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: Y'all go check that out. If you would like to
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: get a good laugh, get some, I don't know, just
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: go relax, talk about our everyday lives over there on
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: the Crypto Huntress, the Hunt Club exclusive videos over there.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: But anyways, yeah, this has been a really cool show, Bruce.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: We never know what you're going to get or where
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: we're going to go, do you? Whenever I invite you
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: on the channel.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Right. We have a lot of fun, a lot of
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: interesting topics. We do.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I need to go make sure I got some
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: deer whistles on my truck before I head to Kentucky,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: I guess. But I don't think I have any. Yeah,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: I'll be all right. It's interstate mostly the whole way.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: But but anyways, well, I hope I'm definitely going to
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: be seeing you, I hope, on Saturday.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll come up. Yeah, I'll come up and hang around. OK, wonderful.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: OK, well, hey, in conclusion, y'all, I do what we do.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: I think this was probably a dog man out there
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. What is this? The Dismal Swamp. If you're
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: in the Dismal Swamp, please be careful out there. They've
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: got everything from lots of Bigfoot sightings. I even saw
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: an article where there were reptilian beings out there, like
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: swamp monsters and stuff, too. So be aware of that.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: It's not too far from the Lizardman Escape or Swamp.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: It's just north of that, y'all, in North Carolina. That's
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: out of South Carolina. And so orbs, phantom lights, lots
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: of ghosts out there. And dog men. And dog men.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: If you guys want access to the remote viewing data,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: please go to my Patreon. Thank you to all my
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: Patreon members. Y'all are so amazing. I appreciate each and
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: every one of y'all. And I want to thank all
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: my moderators for being here tonight as well. Thank y'all
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: so much. And Bruce, where can everybody find you? Tell
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: everybody about the Cryptid Wrangler podcast. Are y'all going to
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: do a show tomorrow night? And who?
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: What y'all got planned? I heard this evening we'll have
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's Correct me if I'm mistaken. Coley UFO
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: will be on tomorrow night. Then we're going to be
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: taking answers from the chat. So anybody that's got any questions,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: just jump on over 7 o'clock. Central, I think it's
• 1:56:19
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• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: We're trying to get to 500. so we can keep
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: the channels going. Catch me over at Outer Rim on
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: the 26th, myself and M.K. Davis. And then if you
• 1:56:44
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• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: or whatever, you can get me at all lowercase, BruceBrown12525
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: at gmail.com. If you've got a dog man, a big foot,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: that's giving you a hard time on your property, let
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: me know. I'll help you out there. And you'll catch
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: me on the Cryptid Wrangler, either on the podcast every
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: now and then, but in the chat for sure.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: And the Cryptid Hunters channel. You're always over here, man.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: I love it. I try to always invite you on
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: whenever I've got a good dog man encounter for sure.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: You're awesome, Bruce. You've got so much knowledge and just real,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: real down to earth and real, you got real life encounters,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: you know, under your belt stuff. I love it. And,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: and so you help bring all this information together for us,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: you know, and, and that's ultimately what I'm trying to
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: do is connect the dots and, you know, just make
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: sense of all the craziness with all these crazy cryptids
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: Y'all, okay, everybody, please go over to the Cryptid Wrangler
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: podcast on YouTube and please subscribe. And also, if you
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: guys want, if you're on Facebook, go to Bigfoot Believers
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: and Other Creatures. Bruce is also a moderator over there. So,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: I am too. I'm just not on, I'm not on Facebook.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: That is very often, I guess you could say. But,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: but yeah, y'all go over there. That's a great resource for,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: you know, people post their shows about Bigfoots and cryptids
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: over there and stuff. So yeah, go check it out, everybody.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: We're 82 subscribers from having our 500. Oh, that's wonderful.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: Please come over and join us tomorrow night. We'll have
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: a great time.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: Well, heck yeah. Well, if I have internet, I will
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: definitely come check y'all out tomorrow night. Okay. For sure.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody. Well, I hope y'all have a wonderful
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: rest of your night. Please come back and see me.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: I will have an on the hunt show Saturday night,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: 10 PM Eastern. Y'all come see it and come see us.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: And I will, I guess I'll see everybody at the
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: land between the lakes in Kentucky. That is going to
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: be Saturday night. Again, if you guys want more information
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: on that, please go over to go to my website, thecryptinhunteress.com.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: I've got the flyers and the information there. Or you
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: can go to Facebook to go to the Friends of
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: the Land Between the Lakes. I saw Bart Nunley in
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: the chat tonight. Bart will be there, him and Tish. And,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: of course, Martin Groves, my friend Matt. Matt's coming. And
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: a host of other folks. Oh, yeah, and Trenton will
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: be there. Trenton Battle. Y'all remember Trenton that was on
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: the show about two or three weeks ago? Trenton will
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: also be there. I've heard of good authority. He's going
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: to be there as well. But let me throw out
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: the flyer one more time in case you guys miss it.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: We'll see if I got it in here. I've got
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: so many pictures uploaded.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: Here it is.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: It's the Moonshine Festival. And that's it. I can't wait
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: to see everybody. It's going to be a great time. Okay. Well, Bruce,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: thanks again for being here. We'll see you guys over
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: on the Cricket and Wrangler podcast.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. All righty. All righty.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all. Have a great night, and I will
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: see you guys back here on Saturday.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: If I can find my buttons. Please be safe out there, y'all.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: And watch your six. Head on a swivel, but have
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: no fear.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: Bye, y'all. Bye, y'all.