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- Jason Linkes: Coming up next on Back Checking the Bolts. a single season. Take a guess at what the number is Bobby or in 1970 71 was plus 124. was a plus 184. Everyone is Hall of Famer except for one person and he has a tie to the Tampa Bay Lightning. That player is Brian Engelam. Welcome to Back Checking the Bolts. Back Checking the Bolts is your cup of coffee to get you the latest on the Tampa Bay Lightning. Join host Jason Linkus and the managing editor of Raw Charge, Justin Godfrey, as they break down the Lightning's most recent games and go beyond the highlights, telling you what the box scores didn't. It's time to drop the puck. Welcome to back checking the bolts. is episode number 28. those of you keeping score at home, that is your Corey spring Zenon Kenopka and Niles Ekman episode. That's right. It's episode number 28. Today we're going to recap Thursday's tough two to one loss against the Canadians. We're also going to look at the very tight and tough two one victory over the Boston Bruins. We're going to tell you a little bit more about the lightning playoff picture. Is it any clearer? And finally, we're going to preview the Detroit game. And this is when I always bring in my cohost. He's the managing editor of raw charge. You can see him every day at www.rawcharge.com. He is Justin Godfrey. Justin last three days have been a little bit exciting, both two one games. One was a victory. One was a loss. Where do you want to start? Well, I'd start with your definition of exciting. I don't know if That would apply to either one of those games. ⁓ Both kind of just really grinded out games. Hasn't been a lot of pretty hockey over the last 72 hours or so. On Saturday, least the Lightning found a way to win. You know, I thought they had a really good third period. They outplayed Boston, who was not playing well themselves, picked up the two points. Just, think morale wise, it's a nice victory to have. The Lightning don't lack in confidence. That's one thing that no matter what's happening, they're always going to believe in themselves. That being said, And oh, oh, and for road trip to end the season kind of wouldn't be the best way to kind of finish things off. So picking up this victory, getting the two points, whether it means anything in the final tally of the, of, the standings, who knows, but I think just mentally it's a good win to have. They, they won it late. They held on to the lead this time as opposed to, you know, the Montreal game where they tied it up late and then immediately gave up a goal. So I thought, you know, it's a good win. It's not a pretty win. It's a good win. They can fly it home feeling a little bit better about themselves. Justin after last season when they lost to the Panthers in the playoffs, I think a lot of people thought the lightning were not tough enough in the playoffs. There was a school of thought out there that the lightning were too easy to play against. In the last month, we've seen the eight seven lost to Buffalo. We saw the last lost to Buffalo the other day, the four two loss and this game against Montreal. The Leighton in my opinion have gone out of their way to show that they are a physical hockey team, but have they done that to their own detriment in those games? It's hard to say. There's just so many factors going on right now. Just dealing with the injuries, dealing with the fatigue. ⁓ It's hard to say if they're playing a little too physical. That's something they've definitely been doing all year. I mean, they lead the league in penalty minutes for a reason and it's not even close. Are they trying to send a message to some of these teams that they may be playing in the playoffs? Possibly kind of feel like that was the Montreal thing. A lot of that was maybe foreshadowing that this is what you guys are in for. If we meet in the first round, you know, get used to it. Montreal did a great job of handling the pressure. So it's going to be interesting. This is definitely a team that was built to face the Panthers, I think. And it's kind of unfortunate that, you know, Florida didn't hold up their end of the bargain for, you know, a three-peat here. Yeah. It's going to be interesting to see how they transition. this super physical play, you know, the pushing and shoving afterwards that they need. Justin, one of the things I want to talk about is the number of penalties they're committing in these games. And the eight seven lost to Buffalo back in, I think it was early March. It might've been actually late February. can't remember exactly, but they were in the penalty box. The majority of that game against Montreal on Thursday night, they gave Montreal seven power plays. It's not what you would typically see in a game. again, I get they want to be physical, but these were games that if they won the division would be in sight. And I think they spent all day in the penalty box and it made it impossible for them to get to their five on five game. You and I were going back and forth on Thursday night, five on five, especially in the third period, the lightning really came on. They just didn't give themselves enough opportunities to play five on five. Yeah. And the Montreal game was kind of weird because a lot of these, extra penalties that the Lightning picked up were in these scrums where it seemed like no matter what happened, they were always the one getting penalized. Not to be vulgar, but it kind of chapped Cooper's ass a little bit that every single time they're pulling people out, the Lightning ended up shorthanded. So was it kind of game management a little bit? Possibly. But you're right. mean, when they get into these little stretches where they're just taking penalty after penalty. It's tough to get their five on five game going. It's tough for them to roll their lines. Yeah, there was a lot of pushing and shoving a lot of stuff after the whistle, but they also started that game down four minutes when Gord took a four minute high sticking penalty. I mean, they kind of got off on the wrong foot and just never really found it until the third period. They are really good five on five team that gets really out of sorts when they start taking these extra penalties. It's going to be interesting to see if they keep that up in the playoffs or if that's something they can turn off. I don't think they're going to get the physical play that they've been used to the last two first rounds. I don't think Montreal is really going to push the envelope too much. I don't think Buffalo is. There is a little bad blood I think now between them and Montreal. So it'd be interesting to see what like a Josh Anderson does. Cause one of the, you know, short handed times is they went after Kutroff. You know, Anderson went after Kutroff and they weren't going to put up with it. It ended up with. Declan Carlisle fighting out of his weight class. He picked up the instigator penalty. That's why they were short handed. Their big motto this year was you aren't going to push us around. We think our penalty kill is good enough that if we do go down short handed, we can kill it off, which is what they did against Montreal. They killed off every short handed opportunity they had. Montreal didn't score on the power play. So they have the confidence that they can kill off any penalties they have, but yeah, it's going to be kind of interesting moving forward if they can get out of that mindset just a little bit. think they still need that physical edge. You know, Brandon Hagel mentioned it after the game. They played better when they're emotional, which is an odd thing to hear from, uh, you know, John Cooper led team who's always trying to maintain that even line. think they got to throttle it down just a little, don't take quite as many bad penalties and, and spend a little bit more time on five on five. Justin in this four game road trip, the lightning scored seven goals in four games, only one win. Where has the offense stalled? They're just not getting the chances. I think in the Montreal game. They ended up, know, granted they only played 20 some minutes at, or I think 30 some minutes at five on five, but they only had, I believe three high danger chances. You know, those are your grade A opportunities. They're just not generating them right now. They've been below 10 high danger chances for much of this road trip. think every single game, even against Boston, I think they only had nine or so if I remember correctly. And this is a team that's been averaging on the season around 14 to 15 per game. So they're not getting that. ⁓ They're just not getting those good looks or if they do get them and not finishing them, even tonight's game they had, or should say today's game, they had two or three grade A right between the slot chances that either they whiffed on the shot or it got blocked or it's, Whiteman made the save. Montreal was the same thing. They had two or three turnovers that they created and they just couldn't put the puck in the net. So I think that's kind of your big thing. That's the thing that worries me the most about the way they played recently. is they're not generating chances. When they've gone through some of these slumps earlier in the season, they were still getting their chances. They just weren't converting them, which happens to a team, you know, especially a team that shoots as well as the Lightning. You do fall into those kinds of slumps from time to time. But I would like to see, you know, these last two games, not great, and it's not going to be the greatest competition, but get back to that, creating these 10 to 15 high danger chances a night, you know, your 25 scoring chances and get back into that rhythm. I think they'll be okay. I want to talk a little bit about the secondary scoring that has really evaporated over the last 10 games. First of all, you have Braden point one goal in his last 11 games, gauge, consolidate scoreless and 14 all of her Bjork strand scoreless and 17, Zygmunt's gurgling since one goal in 17. Can they be successful if these guys don't pick it up? Andre Vasileski stands on his head, they could win 2-1, you know? But it's not a great success, it's not a great recipe for success. But all of those, think it's kind of the shocking one this year has been Brayden Point. He missed a few games earlier this season. He struggled to open the season, missed a couple games, came back, was playing like the Brayden Point we expected. And then he got hurt and I believe it was Philly. He bent backwards over the knee, missed some time, came back. His first couple of games looked pretty good, but he's just not. looking like Braden Point right now. He's not burying in these chances that we're used to seeing him go and put it in the back of the net right now. I wonder if it's a little bit of a confidence thing, just not in his groove right now. You know, he was split up from Kucherov for a little while. They were back together before they started missing games again and you know, Kuch was out for a couple. So it'll be interesting to see if he can get back on track for the last two. Would be surprised to see Kucherov and Point get some playing time together down the stretch here. Just kind of try and get his... get his confidence going. He's one of these guys. think if he puts one in the net, one or two in the net, it's he's going to take off and they're going to need him in the playoffs. Um, you know, some of those other guys, Bjork Strang's been a little bit of a disappointment five on five. He has been scoring on the power play. You he's got nine power play goals on the year out of his 11. Um, he just doesn't really seem like a fit, but that being said, the guy can score in the, in the postseason, you know, again, if he gets going, that helps out gauge going on Salves. Kind of more of a puck distributor. So I'm not too super worried about him not scoring, especially when he's on a line with point and Kucherov. So keep an eye on that. And you know, Gergensens is Gergensens. He's going to get you eight, nine goals. So him not scoring a lot, not really a big deal to me as long as he's shutting down defensive chances and playing responsible hockey. think in my opinion, the tough part is going to become playoff time. You have Gensel Kucherov. You have to find a way to get some secondary scoring because Hey, Kucherov and Gensler are going to captain the ship, but you still need the shipmates to contribute. Hey, even captain Stubing had go for an Isaac there to help out on the love boat. everyone. that's kind of been their, their problem the last couple of years is they haven't been able to get scoring out of their second or third lines. So that is going to be something they've been looking for this year, something that, you know, they were really doing during their long winning streaks. is they were getting that scoring up and down the lineup. So part of it is I think just people being out of position right now with the injuries, people coming in and out. I think that's kind of upset their rhythm a little bit. It was nice to see Hagel come back tonight and get a goal. mean, it was vintage Bremen Hagel. gets a nice pass from González, blows down the middle of the ice and sneaks it past Swamen. I think him and Cirelli kind of are really good together as far as getting in front of the net. getting that pressure on wearing out that with those two back in the lineup, I wouldn't be surprised to see the scoring pick up a little bit over the last couple of games and then hopefully into the first round. Real quick thought from the Montreal game, possible playoff opponent. And I would say right now it's more than likely it's probably at least a 50 % chance. And I think I've seen that on a couple of websites. What do you like on the, on the matchup? What do you dislike on the matchup? Uh, I feel like just like the speed of that top line. think we mentioned it the preview last week before these two teams played that Cole Caulfield, Slefkovsky and Nick Suzuki line. Uh, they've just been tearing the lightning up this year. The last, especially the last couple of times they've met. so finding a way to contain them is going to be pretty tough. I do think the light knee could still pressure their blue line with a good four check and saw it in the third period a little bit. There were some turnovers that the lightening created up and down. If the lightening are healthy, think up and down the lineup. Once you get past that first line, think the Lightning match up pretty well. you know, goaltending is goaltending. Until somebody does it in the playoffs, you're never quite sure. So is Dobish going to be the guy for them? Can he take his game to that next level in the playoffs? You know, right now I like the Vasileski first Dobish matchup, but you never see a young kid. Maybe he is going to be a playoff star. So we'll see how it goes. So right now I do like the... the goaltending matchup, I like the depth matchup and I like kind of like the defensive matchup. So if the Lightning can find a way to shut down that, that Caulfield line, that Suzuki line, then I think they have a fairly, you know, fairly good chance of winning. I think no matter what it's going to be pretty much a coin toss series. And I think that's true with ⁓ Montreal. think it's true with Buffalo too. I think that's going to be a coin flip series if somehow they end up matching up against them. did you happen to see Cole Caulfield got his 50th? of the season. was the first Canadian since I think it was 1989, 90 to get 50 goals in a season. Did you see who that last Canadian was? got another that last Canadian Canadian was he's also a former bowl and I believe we know him by his short lived nickname, right? He's the undertaker because he goals. God, that was a great. remember seeing that billboard on 275. don't know how many times it goes over the dog track. You don't do it like that anymore, man. yeah. Stephon Richet, who brief, brief, ⁓ visit to Tampa in his career. Yeah. Would've been interesting if he had some more talent around them, if he could have been a nice secondary scorer for the lightning, but just wasn't to be that lightning team back in the late nineties. had a lot of problems. One of the big problems was until they got Vinny, they didn't have a center. No, no, Yeah. You had, ⁓ Brian Bradley's broken back and that was about it. It was tough, tough watching those early years, but they've come a long way. I was happy to see Caulfield get it. I mean, I like that kid. I mean, he plays with a lot of spirit. He plays fast. He's not the biggest guy in the world. So when he's, know, smog, old boys, ⁓ put up 50 goals, it's fun to see. ⁓ but yeah, just as long as he doesn't do it in the playoffs, the lightning are playing against him. Justin, I know we've been talking about the heart trophy betting odds. And once again, the betting odds have changed right now. According to Fandl, Nathan McKinnon is minus one 88 Connor McDavid, who at one point was 10 to one. You saw him at plus six 50. He's now plus one 98 and Nikita Kuturov has fallen to third at plus six 40. Justin, I'm going to give you a hundred bucks to bet. Who are you picking? I'm still going with McDavid. I think he's turned it up at the right time. know, Edmonton starting to win again. It looks like they're probably going to end up taking that division. I think he gets the legacy votes. McKinnon probably loses a couple just, you know, yeah, they're going to be the president's trophy winner, but I think down the stretch, they kind of faded from, from attention a little bit. I do like McDavid's chances. That being said, you never know when Kutrow is going to whip out a six point game. You know, he could do it against Detroit. Get back there and do it quick. If he plays against the York, maybe he does it against them and takes a scoring title on the last day of the season, which would be fun. Um, that being said, it's yeah, I liked McDavid. other Tampa Bay lightning member that has a chance at winning some hardware is Andre Vasilevsky with the Vesna right now. He is minus four 70, basically a five to one favorite to win over Ilya Sorokin. And I think a lot of that is the Islanders have really fallen off. over the last 10 games. At one point, this was pretty much even money both ways, but it looks like Vasileski is going to cruise to the Vesna. Yeah, Vasileski has been just, he's been really good, especially down the stretch here. I thought he's been really good on this road trip. He played really well against Boston. He played really well against Montreal and even the Buffalo game. I thought he played pretty well. He may add one or two that he'd want back. But that being said, you know, I think he's pretty much locking it in. He's probably got one more start to make. either against Detroit or the Rangers feel like it's going to be a good start. And, uh, we said it, I think we kind of said it a few times with Sorokin. It was going to be hinged a lot on the Islanders making the playoffs. So without him making it, you know, without them making it, it's probably Vasilevsky to lose. Let's take a quick look at the playoff picture right now. The teams that are completely locked into their playoff seating in the Eastern conference. Carolina has won the Metro. They right now lead the Eastern conference with 108 points. Pittsburgh penguins over in the Metro are locked into second place. After that, nobody knows who's going to end up where, but I want to talk about the Atlantic division. The Buffalo Sabres 80 games. have 106 points. The Montreal Canadians were recording this on Saturday afternoon. They have 79 games played 104 points. The lightning after the win against Boston have 80 games played and 104 points. The lightning still have a chance at this division. They still might finish in third and may not have home ice advantage. Justin, if you're handicapping this, know Buffalo because of the points lead is the front runner. Where do you think the lightning end up? Do they end up first, second or third? I feel like they kind of sneak back into that second spot. They got. winnable games down the stretch here. They got the, the Red Wings and then the Rangers. Montreal's got a sneaky heart schedule to finish it off. They do play tonight, Saturday night. They got Columbus at home. Then they finish on the road against two teams that are going be fighting for that Metro spot in the Islanders. And then they close out their season on Tuesday against the Flyers in Philly. So, you know, that's not the easiest schedule down the road for Montreal. So if the Lightning can pick up two wins down the stretch here, I think that puts them in a good spot to finish. second place. Does it matter to the Lightning? I don't really think so. We talked about the home ice advantage last episode. I think Montreal will have a big, you know, the crowds are going to be fired up. But another thing with that, you know, if you take the crowd out early, that can almost be a detriment. So if Lightning go out there, game one, you know, win something like four to one or so, or a couple early goals, something that they haven't been doing, but you know, anything's possible in the playoffs. Take that crowd out and that's kind of a disadvantage a little bit for Montreal. So. Yeah, I think that being said, think they fit, they do end up in that second spot. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lightning win their next two games and finish, you know, finish second. The Lightning are going to finish the 25-26 campaign with games on Monday against Detroit and on Wednesday against the New York Rangers. So far the season series on October 17th. The bolts lost to the Red Wings by a score of two to one in overtime on November 28th. They were victorious by a score of six to three. That game was in Detroit. They came back to Tampa on March 12th. They were a four one winner. Justin right now, the Red Wings are in a tussle with the New Jersey Devils. We're recording this on Saturday at about seven o'clock. They're up three to two. If they hold on to that third period lead. Detroit's going to have a lot to play for, so you're going to get a big effort out of the Red Wings. What matchups are you looking at in this game? So again, they're kind of a team that's similar to Montreal, and their top line really does give the Lightning some issues from time to time. Would like to see the Lightning probably put the Cirelli line out against them and then try and win the other matchups. So that's kind of what I'm looking for. Goaltending is going to be an issue with Detroit. think they've been... Kind of a little poorest offensively of late. know they gave up five to Minnesota the other day. I mean, they gave up, I think three to Philly and Columbus. So they haven't exactly been keeping the puck out of the net as of late. They lost four to one to the Rangers for God's sakes. It's been a, it's, it's been a rough, rough stretch for them. They're kind of fading at the worst possible time right now. Uh, that being said, they do get the lightning fits when they play against them. It's never an easy win. Even some of these scores that aren't, don't seem close. A lot of times the games themselves are a lot closer. So looking for the lightning to be able to shut down that top line and then build off of that. Maybe gets whatever the reconstituted Yanni Gord line looks like. Hopefully get them involved a little bit. I think today they started off, it was Gord. It was a really weird kind of, kind of a match. I think it was Gord, Paul and Bjorkstrand was the, uh, trio. ⁓ so that's something we haven't seen all year, but I think it's gonna, it's gonna be something along the lines of gurgling since healthy, you know, George strand, Gord and, and, ⁓ gurgling sins, but we'll see, we'll have to see. So you never know how the coaches are going to play these games down the stretch. ⁓ coop wants to be healthy. That's his number one goal. So, you know, if players can't go, then he's not going to push them. So it could be some interesting lineups over the next two games. If Detroit wins, they are going to be three points behind both Ottawa and Boston. They lose every tiebreaker possible to the senators. But if they win in regulation, they will have the same number of regulation wins as Boston. But again, they're trailing them by three points. You have to wonder if late in the game, you may see an odd situation. If the game happens to be tied, does Detroit pull their goaltender trying to get a regulation win instead of. worrying about trying to win this game in the shootout. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it's something to keep in mind. saw that a couple of years ago with Philly. Um, Twitter, Rella pulled, uh, pulled the goaltender ended up giving up a goal. And of course everyone made fun of him, but it was, it was the right play to make at the time. was the right move to make. I mean, you got to pick up these things in regulation and yeah, we could come down to see that switch. Yeah. That's the beauty of this time of year is you kind of see some things that you normally wouldn't, you know, maybe if they're trailing by two, he pulls the goalie with. With like eight minutes to go or something like that. You never know how coaches are going to deal with this. much as people want to rag on the format, this is why Betman pushed so hard for this kind of playoff system. It brings teams into it. It keeps teams into it. And you come down to this last week of hockey and for a lot of these fan bases, you know, it's pretty darn exciting. So you get the outliers like the Kings who have won like 12 regulation games or something like that are going to. possibly make a playoff spot. I'm sorry. They have 21 regulation wins. bad. think they, that would be the lowest of any playoff team since this format's been installed. Yeah. The only teams that have fewer, well, they're tied with the blackhawks and then Vancouver is the only team with fewer regulation wins. It's not like they're winning all these games at a shootout. They won quite a few of these in overtime. So for time counts in, in, in, In the playoffs, yes, it's five on five, but still sometimes you get this team that, you know, just likes playing overtime. But, have to get there. Everyone plays chip at a chair, right? That's all you need. But yeah, it's, it's, to me, it's kind of fun. You know, yes, I would prefer to see the seedings one through eight again. ⁓ just because sometimes I get a little sick of seeing the same teams in the first round and you do get these first round matchups where two of the best teams. you know, face off against each other. And, know, it's going to be kind of the case in the West where Dallas and Minnesota are going to face off against each other in the first round, but still you got to win the games you play. You know, what's the difference between them playing the first round and the second round or, know, the third round. So, you know, just play the games as they are. Enjoy the fact that we still have five or six teams in the playoff hunt. I don't even want to look at the Western conference and see what's going on over there. ⁓ but yeah, is ⁓ the pillow fight division. So it's fine. Fine by me, you know, the light near comfortably in a playoff spot. So I'm not super worried about it. and you know, maybe they ended up playing one of these teams that exhaust themselves down the stretch. Yeah. They do pick up a playoff spot and then upset a team in the first round. now all of a sudden they're in the second round, but they're completely out of gas. it should be fun. Justin, before we go, I know you hate the plus minus stat and a couple podcasts before we were talking about that statistic. Nathan McKinnon at the time was over plus 50 today. He's a plus 56 and it made me want to go and take a look at what NHL players have the highest plus minus in a single season. Take a guess at what the number is. I'll tell you the player, but take a wild guess. Um, I want to say I saw this a little while ago. It was like, it was a ridiculous number. Um, it's like plus 60 something or something like that. Bobby or in 1970 71 was plus one 24, one 24 Larry Robinson in 76 77 was plus one 20. Now I will say this when Bobby or got that the NHL had just expanded to 12 teams. And I think Vancouver might've been added that season. You basically had the rich and the poor because the expansion draft The original six did not allow many players to go to the new, new franchises. there was a big division between the original six and the expansion six, you had Larry Robinson at one 20 Gretzky was a plus 180, 485 out of the top 20. Everyone is a hall of Famer except for one person. And he has a tie to the Tampa Bay lightning. That player is Brian Inglom. The television commentator, he was a plus 78 with the Canadians in 1981, 82. Former Canadians defenseman. Yeah. That's interesting. And for the record, I don't hate the stat. I just don't think it's a great stat. It's a very high level stat and people, think people make too much, too big a deal out of plus minus. Now, when you got a player like, you know, I think JJ Moser is a plus 40 or something like that. It's a good indication that yes, he's on the ice for basically 40 more goals than he's given up. But again, it just doesn't take into account a lot of little factors. It's an okay stat. just, there's better ways to evaluate how a player is, how effective a player is than somebody getting a point for stepping on the ice at the right moment, dangling his foot over the board and you know, ⁓ look, Kutrov just scored. I was changing behind him, so I get a point. It's funny. Like some of the negative stats of like the capitals were like the first year of the capital was, think somebody was like a negative 60 or something like that. Or, I know when they had their expansion team, somebody was, it was like somebody good. It's like a solid defender too. Um, and I know, you know, we were talking about some of those, so there's late 90 lightning teams. There were some pretty god awful numbers on that. earlier this season Nikita Kutrov was a minus eight at one point. Did anybody think that Dirk Kutrow was forgotten how to play hockey because he was a minus eight? You he knew it was going to even out at some point. So again, it's a number I take with a tremendous grain of salt, know, the size of the salt lakes of Utah. yeah. What you're very familiar with, but again, Bobby Orr, 124. That's a great We're not talking a small sample size. That's an entire season. And it's not like he wasn't on the goal for any goals against. know, shows you how, you know, how many, how many, how much offense he played and how good he was defensively. know, as much fun as we'd like to say, I don't think there, there's just never going to be a player like Bobby Orr. You can call people the modern Bobby Orr, but I don't think anyone's going to dominate the game from the blue line like you did anymore. think in terms of speed, the only one that I've seen that's even close was Paul Coffey. Paul Coffey had 148. points one season. I know the game was a little different in the eighties, but it's still 148 points. And I've never, I just remember Paul coffee. There'd be 10 seconds left on the power play. He would have been out there for a minute and 50 seconds of that power play. He would take the puck from behind his own net and he was fast enough to not only get the puck into the opposing team zone. But he would sometimes come up with a shot and every once in a while he'd get a goal or an assist off of it. I never saw a guy skate as fast as coffee. I never did. Now he had his defensive deficiencies. He wasn't the defender that Bobby or was, but in terms of offense and in terms of excitement, Paul coffee in the eighties, you couldn't beat them. Yep. Well, there you go. Our next podcast is going to be on Tuesday. We're going to preview. the lightning ranger game on Wednesday. That'll be the season finale. We're also going to recap the Detroit red wings game on Monday. 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