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Leviathan or Liberty?

What is civilization built upon — fear or wonder? Security or freedom? The State or the soul?

In this special Chesterton Radio philosophical debate, Thomas Hobbes — author of Leviathan — faces G.K. Chesterton in a dramatic clash over human nature, authority, religion, liberty, and the modern State.

Was Hobbes right that civilization survives only through powerful centralized authority? Or was Chesterton right that societies collapse when they forget faith, family, local loyalties, and the dignity of ordinary people?

From civil war and social contracts to AI governance, technocracy…

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