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Episode 29: The NEW Glyphosate Exposure & How to Detox · Beyond Labels Premium

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  SPEAKER_01: What farmers have found is that by spraying glyphosate, you can speed up that dry down, that that um uh so so the seed is is mature, but the plant is still has some greenness and some some you know viability to it as it goes into its whatever last gasps of life of the season.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so the glyphosate speeds that up.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: It makes leaves drop off, which means the combine, when they go through it and cut it and and uh and and do the combining, it doesn't have as much leaves and stem and stuff to deal with.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it has stem, but but um it doesn't have as much plant material still on that plant to have to separate from the seed, which means you can you so the glyphosate enables farmers to get in faster, earlier before, like you know, fall rains and winter rains come and the fields get wet and you get your combine stuck in the you know in the back 40 and uh in in the mud.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it lets them get in and out earlier, and it also makes combining faster because there's less plant material to separate from the seed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone, welcome to another edition of Beyond Labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Cena McCullough and I'm here with my amazing co-host, Joel Salatin.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you today, Joel?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing great, Sina.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_01: Glad to see you.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad to see you too.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: We have so much news to share today.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: First, I want to give an update to our listeners that we posted a story about the first man to ever receive a heart that was a genetically engineered heart from a pig.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: And sadly, he has passed away roughly two months after the transplant.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we don't have any more information as of yet as to the exact cause of his death, but he has sadly passed away.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they're still um periling it though as a success because he made it past a month.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: So there's that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So these, you know, these these things are uh, you know, uh in innovation, innovation is always um, you know, rife with well with with failure, you know, and and um that that was a see you know that was a hard that was a hard podcast.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard back from several people and um uh you know this this this end of life and how how much do you uh spend to extend life another three months or whatever, uh is really a you know, really a hard thing.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, as you get to my age, you're dealing with elderly parents, and you know, we're dealing with dealing with uh both, you know, my mom, who's 98 and uh and our stepmom who's 81, 82, um, both have you know um issues.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um I'd like to I'd like to hope that when I get there, um I'll be happy just to go.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, and not and not get just doctored out, parted out, and pieced out.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, just anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, he did, he did, he did pass away.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um uh and I think like you said, Pete generally the the scientific community views it as a as a first time, you know, um a first-time success, excitement.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: I'm confident we will see much, much more of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So am I, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And certainly he was a brave man who has now been become part of medical history.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, so today I want to talk about, you know, that was a podcast on um getting sick well later in life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like as you said, what do you do about that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Today I want to talk about another issue that is actually affecting, as we're realizing, younger and younger people across the whole world.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that is the contamination of our food supply with glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we have a new report that has come out by the Detox Project, um, which you know is basically founded by a wonderful man, Henry Rollins.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they are basically that group is uh very concerned about the our exposure level to glyphosate.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: And so they they do independent third-party testing of foods so that we know exactly how much is in our food that we're eating, because obviously the government has dropped the ball on this um willingly, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, so they've come out with a uh a detox project seal that we talked about in our book, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a glyphosate residue-free verification label that's on food.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this report just emphasizes how much we need these third-party labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the report is called The Poison in Our Daily Bread.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm going to tell you the punchline, and then I would like to go through it a little bit and get your thoughts as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: The punchline is that now this pre-harvest spraying with glyphosate is actually leading the leading cause of contamination now of our food supply with glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is known as this as um desiccation of crops, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: This when you are right before harvest and they're spraying crops with agents like glyphosate, it's a drying agent, and they're spraying it on crops that are conventional crops, they're not even genetically engineered crops, but they spray it to get to market faster.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it basically dries it faster and it dries it more uniformly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this has become quite a common practice now for the past two decades in both the United States and Canada, where these farmers are regularly spraying different crops.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what we're finding is that it is becoming prevalent in the food supply, which was common sense because you're spraying it with this glyphosate right before you harvest it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So less time for the glyphosate to break down or to run off, you know, off the food.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what they did was they tested 83 foods that are found in major grocery stores and national food chains, like Walmart, Whole Foods, Target, some national grocers, some items that were bought online through Amazon.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they found that more than half of those foods tested positive for glyphosate.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some of these foods are just, they're gonna probably alarm people because these are things like sprouted whole grain bread, um, 100% whole wheat bread, uh, chickpeas.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can go over the list in more detail.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the point is these foods came up, more than half of them, is testing positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's about out of just the conventional food groups, about 62% of them tested positive, 23 foods out of 37.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then there is a group of foods that were verified by the non-GMO project, right, to not contain GMOs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And 18 out of 26 tested positive, so roughly 69% tested positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then there's a group of foods that were USDA organic certified foods, and five out of 23 tested positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: So roughly 22 percent of the USDA labeled organic foods tested positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so what right there, I want to pause right there in this report because what's that what that is showing us, in my opinion, is that we're not we're no longer seeing a difference in glyphosate exposure between conventional food and non-GMO verified foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, for me, I never expected there to be a difference between those two foods.
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  SPEAKER_00: But one method people used to use in going into the grocery stores when they were trying to avoid a toxic burden on their body from pesticides like glyphosate, is they would choose the non-GMO project verified food.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the thought was most of the Roundup was being sprayed on Roundup ready genetically engineered crops, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So you so if you avoided then the genetically engineered crops, you would be avoiding most of the glyphosate spray.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I can I can understand the logic there.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what's happening is that that no longer is holding true, all right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because now we're seeing this massive contamination from the desiccation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And even um crops that are not genetically modified are being sprayed uh under this guise of a of being a desiccant.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so yeah, let's see, see, let me stop you right there.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: If if I may, I'm I'm I'm I'm feeling the whatever the um the confusion or just uh naivety of people kind of coming back through the through the uh whatever screen to us.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um uh so let me as a farmer, let me just explain the re when we talk about a desiccant, and we talk about well, why would you spray wheat or barley, you know, right before harvest?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's all about speed.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so so uh years ago when grains were harvested um at maturity, so so the plant, you know, the plant growth, these are annuals.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are annuals, they have a very fast growth cycle.
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  SPEAKER_01: You plant them in the spring, they grow real fast in the summer.
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  SPEAKER_01: As the summer uh goes, they start to um, you know, they they make the plump seed, uh, whatever it is, wheat, barley, oats, and um, and then you know, and the leaves fall off.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: The plant actually, the plant actually uh um goes into maturity and naturally just kind of the leaves fall off and and and nothing's left there kind of but the you know the stem, um some some real frail hangers-on leaves and and the the nice big plump grain, right?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: And um and so you know that that was the normal cycle.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what's happened is and then of course that would be harvested and and it'd go in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and the way you harvest that, of course, is you have to cut the head off the plant, you have to separate the uh the grain from the husk, the leaves, the stem, the rest of the plant.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's um in in in old old uh historical terms, that was called that was called um you know winnowing.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um you had to you had to uh uh beat it, you know, beat it and and uh then you know then then winnow it where the wind would blow away the chaff.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: What we're talking about here is the chaff, uh getting it, getting the chaff separated from the seed, all the you know little plant leafy particles.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: So what what what farmers have found is that by spraying glyphosate, you can speed up that dry down, that that um uh so so the seed is is mature, but the plant is still has some greenness and some some you know viability to it as it goes into its whatever last gasps of life of the season.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so the glyphosate speeds that up.
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  SPEAKER_01: It makes leaves drop off, which means the combine, when they go through it and cut it and and uh and and do the combining, it doesn't have as much leaves and stem and stuff to deal with.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, it has stem, but but um it doesn't have as much plant material still on that plant to have to separate from the seed, which means you can you so the glyphosate enables farmers to get in faster, earlier before, like you know, fall rains and winter rains come in the fields get wet and you get your combine stuck in the you know in the back 40 and uh in in the mud.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it gets lets them get in and out earlier, and it also makes combining faster because there's less plant material to separate from the seed.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I just wanted to go over that a little bit so people could understand the reason, the rationale why a a non-GMO, uh why any, you know, any conventional farmer would use uh glyphosate not as weed control, but as plant dry down catalyst to facilitate the harvest, the the harvest of the grain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's great explanation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and now we actually know that Roundup is uh or some kind of glyphosate is sprayed reportedly on more than 70 crops, including almonds, apples, these dry edible beans, lentils, chickpeas, um, peas, like green peas, grapes, rice, and sunflowers.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's also sprayed on those.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and as you mentioned, it's sprayed down, it's sprayed to um desiccate these other crops, um, like wheat, oats, barley, and dry bean crops pre-harvest.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so just like what you're saying, they're now spraying it at such levels that um the level that we're consuming is just increasing at what I think is an unsustainable rate for the human body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh for instance, there's a study.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is this that in the report, which we will attach to this um this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a study that was published in 2017 in the Journal of American Medical Association.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what they did was the researchers tracked people for 20 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are people in Southern California, they tracked them from 1993, which was just before random braided crops were released onto the market, and they tracked them through 2016.
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  SPEAKER_00: Over that 20-year period, on average, there was a 500% increase in the amount of glyphosate in the urine of these subjects.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some subjects had levels of glyphosate that surged by 1,208%.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this tracked with uh this increase in the glyphosate levels in the urine, tracks with the um the with the Roundup ready GMO crops being on the market.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, for instance, in 1995, that was the year before the Roundup Ready crops were on the market, farmers were using about 40 million pounds of glyphosate per year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then it steadily increased with these Roundup ready crops.
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  SPEAKER_00: And by 2014, farmers were using about 280 million pounds of glyphosate per year.
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  SPEAKER_00: And um, if you can see on this graph, like I encourage everybody to click on the link and pull it up because here I'll hold it up here.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you can see on this graph, Joel, you see it just increase.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is when Roundup Ready crops were introduced, it just shoots right up, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And um today there's about 300 million pounds of glyphosate that's sprayed, a billion pounds of pesticides sprayed per year.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about a pound for every American citizen, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so the point I'm trying to make is we've our bodies have been carrying this toxic burden of glyphosate for decades now.
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  SPEAKER_00: The originally, according to this report, the cause of this toxic burden on our body was the introduction of roundup righty GMO crops.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, what they're finding is that today's contamination, today's increased burden of glyphosate on our body is from this pre-harvest sprain, which means that the old strategy of I'm gonna try to avoid glyphosate by avoiding genetically modified crops, that strategy no longer works.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as I just as I was said in the beginning, because even these non-GMO verified foods are testing positive, 69% of them roughly tested positive for glyphosate.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, Joel, this is um this is something that you and I pointed out in our book, In Beyond Labels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember, we went back and forth with, you know, we started with the organic label, and then I was like, no, there's holes in it.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna patch up the holes in that organic label bucket.
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  SPEAKER_00: So then the next tip was um look for the duo, which was organic label plus the non-GMO label.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: And then remember, I was like, no, that's not even enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have to look for the trio, you have to add the um glyphosate residue-free label on top of it.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: And this is the point in the book where we were like about ready to throw our hands up and be like, this is how complicated our food supply really is, right?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: And there was pushback too of people being like, Well, why do you have to add all those labels together?
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, isn't that redundant?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: The USD organic label should cover glyphosate, it should cover all of these um toxins that our body is likely to be exposed to in the food supply.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: And as we can see, even from this independent report, it's not enough.
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  SPEAKER_00: The USD organic label, uh, 22% of those foods tested positive.
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  SPEAKER_00: The non-GMO project label, about 69% of those foods tested positive.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: So just this is verification of what we outlined in our book of how complex the system is.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're gonna shop in the grocery store, what loops you have to go through just to try to protect yourself from these toxic burdens that are in our food supply.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: Just just so uh just so you know, uh, the the feed mill, the feed mill that that does our feeds here at at our farm, they actually test every load that comes in for glyphosate.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: Now, we're we're we're not you know, we're not in the whatever the the glyphosate uh, you know, the whatever third-party certification.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh but you know, there there are definitely people and mills and things that are testing um, you know, um for their own, you know, for their own good.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: My question to you uh is how does this, I mean, it it's glyphosate is absolutely forbidden um in Germany, you know, verbotten on uh on uh um organics.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: So how does how does 22 percent of organics have, I mean, it is absolutely forbidden.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Now I I know that uh like 80 percent, um it's over 70 percent, maybe not 80, but it's close to that uh percent of all organic uh grains in uh in the US are imported uh to the U.S.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: They're not domestically grown, and most of them are coming from the Stan countries, uh Kyrgyzstan, uh Uzbekistan, um, and they come through Istanbul Turkey, which of course you know we can all trust uh completely, I'm sure, all of those merchant, you know, merchant uh outfits that are coming through Istanbul Turkey.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so is that where this is?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Or I mean, is it is it is it is it slippage or is it fraud?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: So um you and I reported on this before.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: There is some fraud.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we detailed this in our book.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so there is fraud coming in from other countries.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there was at one point uh like more organic grain imported from, I think it might have been Turkey, one of those countries.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: We imported more organic grain from them than they can even grow.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: So what's happening is we're getting conventionally grown grains, and by the time they arrive on our shores, they have magically converted into organic grains.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: So some of this is fraud.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, according to the detox product project, and I've seen this reported elsewhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of this is also from contamination in the supply chain.
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  SPEAKER_00: And some of this would also be contamination from drift from nearby fields that are spraying Roundup.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it does, it does tend to drift, oh, to drift.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, winds, winds can easily drift it and runoff a lot.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Most of um, I saw a study one time that said that most of the most of the glyphosate that's sprayed on these crops actually doesn't even stay on the plant.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: It goes down into the soil and it gets into the runoff.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, with rains, um, and when they when they water the crops, um glyphosate is water soluble, so it is easily carried.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: In water, so it gets into the runoff, and that gets into the water supply.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we've also seen it in drinking water, for instance.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and and let's go there for a minute because just so that people understand, if they don't already, I really want to drive home why I feel it's so important to protect yourself from glyphosate and why I go to great lengths to decrease this toxic burden on my body.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mentioned, for instance, that study where they tracked people for 20 years and the level of glyphosate increased in their urine at alarming levels.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, according to the study author, the uh by 2000, 30% of the subjects found glyphosate in the urine.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: As of 2016, 70% of the study cohorts had detectable levels.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: The levels of glyphosate that were documented in these people in the study were a hundredfold greater than those than those in the famous rat study.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Now, let me tell you the rats study, there's um several of them, but here's one of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: In 2017, researchers found that rats exposed to Roundup at only 0.1 parts per billion.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's an extremely low dose, right?
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: This is a concentration, so you can compare it directly to humans.1 parts per billion.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: Those rats developed non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, over a two-year period, the rats developed non-alcoholic fatty liver disease at an extremely low dose, a lower dose than what we're seeing, for instance, in that 20-year tracking study of humans.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: Now, why do I bring this up?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease is an umbrella term to describe liver disease that's caused by accumulation of too much fat in the liver.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Newest, our newest research is indicating that 25% of adults worldwide actually have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a five-fold increase between 1997 and 2014.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So the this is a disease that affects a quarter of the adult population across the world, uh, reportedly, and it has also just skyrocketed in numbers with the use of glyphosate.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Now, again, uh I'm I I don't have data to say this is cause and effect.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: What I'm saying is this is an observation that I am making.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: And one thing that's very alarming is that the the five-fold increase in this non-alcoholic fatty liver disease has hit young people very hard.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: So it's hit young people more than older people, and it can decrease your life expectancy by at least four years.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: So this is something that we already know happens in rats, and that now we're seeing this trend in humans.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: We also know that um glyphosate can change your gene expression.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: There was another rat study at also at 0.1 parts per billion, a very low dose of glyphosate.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's been shown to change the function of 4,000 genes in the liver and the kidneys of rats.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's been also connected to um birth defects, infertility, other kinds of reproductive issues, miscarriages, increased infant mortality, certain cancers.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and also glyphosate is a patented antibiotic, right?
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Patented, meaning they knew it was an antibiotic, right, when they filed for that patent.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so what that means is that every time that you're consuming glyphosate, you um are potentially killing beneficial microbes in your gastrointestinal tract, right?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: And as we know, you are more microbe than you are human.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: We need those microbes in order to survive.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, one statistic says that we're roughly we have roughly 10 bacterial cells for every human cell.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: And we know those microbes help regulate every system in every part of your body.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: So when you eat antibiotics like glyphosate, you are increasing your likelihood of developing an illness or a disease.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: We also know the glyphosate weakens the gut barrier by damaging the tight junctions, which can lead to leaky gut.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: We also now know that um glyphosate, because it is water soluble, it travels freely through the blood and it can actually cause leaky brain.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: That means so just like leaky gut, it can leak, it can get past the blood-brain barrier and go into the brain.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: And because glyphosate is a chelator, meaning it grabs onto metals, it brings the metals into the brain.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: So this may be one reason why we're seeing increases in you know, brain fog, ADHD, autism, Alzheimer's, you know, it could be one reason.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Glyphosate also um has been linked to like Parkinson's disease, for instance, anxiety, diabetes, obesity, sleep disorders, um, because it blocks the shickabate pathway, which that was one thing that Monsanto said was well, humans don't have the shikamate pathway, so this won't affect them.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: But the microbes in our gastrointestinal tract, some of those microbes have the shikamate pathway.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so we rely on them to make these aromatic amino acids, um, which are obviously essential to making things like serotonin that we need and tryptophan, dopamine, things like that, that are all associated with some of these diseases and conditions I was talking about.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: You you look like you're ready to jump in.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: So listen, uh Cena, you've you've just you've scared me to death.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I I feel our listeners now are just in panic, panic mode.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we're almost out of time.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: So for I I I and and and Sina, honestly, I think you know, our listeners don't have to be convinced about the evils of glyphosate.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, most of us, you know, don't, you know, um we're we're we're well aware that I don't want to take a swig of glyphosate.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so so um, you know, now that now that we're all scared to death, uh let's let's let's give everybody some uh I would say A, what are the what are the main things to avoid?
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: I I think in general, glyphosate, when we talk about the food groups that glyphosate is used on, is primarily things, small things that get picked.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know um so so especially grain based grain-based things like crackers and taco chips and uh any anything that is that that is made with grain or uses processed grain, if we're you know, if we're trying to say um, you know, you can help yourself, if you you can help yourself dramatically by not consuming any of these, you know, and you talk about old people, um, you know, when you start talking about you know crackers and chips and things like that, uh as people age and they lose their spouse, uh, a lot of times um what you eat becomes you know more more whatever, snacky, snacky, convenience-oriented.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and so here, right when a person gets elderly, uh, then they start ingesting more of these snacky, uh uh convenience, quickie, you know, things uh that are that are all grain-based, made with grain.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's the now you you mentioned almonds and grapes.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure they've been found there.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um but but but in g in general, uh glyphosate is used on on small things that are picked mechanically.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and that you know, that's the reason in the in the grains primarily.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what you're so I I'm trying to encourage people, you can you can avoid a lot of this just by watching, you know, what you're buying.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you can also certainly, you know, um you know come come to a farm that is, you know, that's clean, uh, and you can ask about these things, ask about you know grain sources.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um what's your what's your sense on that?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll wrap up.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I always love the solutions, right?
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: The positive aspect.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: So one of my solutions is you can grow your own, right?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, even if you just start small, you can just grow one thing.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you can, like you said, another solution is to um frequent your local farmers that you trust, right, that aren't using these toxins.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and another one is if you are gonna go into the grocery store, like you said, if you're gonna buy you know chips and crackers and whatnot, then you really want to pair those three labels together.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: You you want to pair the USDA organic label with the non-GMO project label with the glyphosate residue-free detox project label, right?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because even, you know, what we said that organic foods, USDA organic foods did show contamination with uh with glyphosate, a percentage of them, but it was lower, the level was lower.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: So a lower percentage overall was contaminated, and the level of contamination was lower.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so so the first thing is you're gonna reach for the USDA organic label in the grocery store we're talking about.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: The next thing is you want to try to pair that with the non-GMO project label because that one patches up that GMO hole that we talked about in a different episode.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Then you want to pair it with the glyphosate residue free label because that is the best testing we have at this point for um detectable levels of glyphosate in our food.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_00: And it is just like the non-GMO project, it's a third-party independent organization.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_00: So whenever I buy something in the grocery store, I pair those three.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now, the glyphosate residue-free label is not as abundant in the grocery store as the non-GMO project because we haven't demanded it.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, what I do is when I go and there's there's a product that I want, um, like you can go to you can go to the website, the detox project website, and we'll include that website in the show description.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: You can see the list of foods, list of products that they have verified to be glyphosate residue-free.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then you can go into your grocery store and ask them or call the grocery store and say, can you carry these products?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: So the more that we demand they carry these products that have been tested, the more that we're likely to get them in the grocery store.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then it supports the label and we can shift the market that way.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_00: To your point, if you go onto the um the report, which we'll also include in the show description, you can see the top foods that tested positive for glyphosate.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, these are the the you know, the ones that are having the desiccant sprayed on them.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: These are things like whole wheat bread, chickpeas, oats, rice, peas, and black beans, um, split peas.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_00: So it's any of these dried beans, um, along with um wheat, um, you know, the lentils, and you're gonna see it's one after the next in those categories that shows up as high levels of glyphosate.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so make sure my my point is it's not squash, it's not squash, apples, watermelons, things like that.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: I just want people to understand that there are there are food groups that that concentrate this food groups that it's really not used on uh uh very much.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um and and and finally, yeah, I can't help Cena but but say, you know, uh so as as a deep as a t detoxifier, um, you know, chlorophyll is one of the number one detoxifiers.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so if you're if you're buying um meat, poultry, dairy, you um one of the best ways to get detoxed is for those animals to be pasture-based, where they're on where they're moved around on pasture, so those animals get a lot of chlorophyll uh every day, and that chlorophyll is nature's number one detoxicant.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I couldn't help but throw that in as a as that that's yet another safety measure when you're shopping, when you're looking for your farmer, find one that truly uh that doesn't have animals out on concrete, out you know, in on dirt, but actually has them moved around uh in this mosaic of pasture where they get a fresh uh salad bar routinely.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Is there any other uh seen a special what regimen for detoxifying yourself?
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh that that you can share before we close.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's a great one.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we could do a whole episode on that one.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we could, yeah, we certainly could, but I I think I think I um, you know, the fear that we've generated with this podcast, I think we we can't leave people, you know, with I mean, you know, I'm sitting here.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what if I've got a thousand, you know, I'm I'm at this thousand parts per million level in my urine.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I can I um what's what just just just give us one or two uh quick little things that we can do to try to drop that a little bit.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so while it's not great that glyphosate is water soluble, right?
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because as I mentioned, it can get across the blood brain barrier and whatnot, it's also a benefit because um it's it in my opinion, it could be easier to get rid of it in the body.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: So you want to make sure that you're well hydrated, right, with clean filtered water.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because as I said, glyphosate um has contaminated um some areas of the water supply.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you want to make sure you're drinking filtered water and it's and it filters out the glyphosate.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: So plenty of water.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_00: You want to make sure you're moving your body.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: So um you're getting your lymph system activated to help detox your body.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_00: You're sweating, right?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's another way to detox the body.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you're not able to exercise to sweat, you can even during the warm days, you can go sit outside and sweat that way naturally, just through um the sun.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: You can do you know, infrared treatments, go into asanas, you can sweat that way.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you can fasting is one way, like a water fast.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but of course, you don't want to do that if you're diabetic, of course.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so but that is another way to try to get rid of glyphosate.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Dr.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Zach Bush has a product out.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it used to be called Restore.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now it's called something like iOS or something, but um, if you type in Restore, it will come up.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and his product has been tested to actually show in um in the laboratory that it can repair the tight junctions of the body and repair these connections between the microbes in your body, the communication network that glyphosate destroys.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: So that's another option for um what people can do.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that if you just if you're consuming conventional foods now, just switch, start switching it over, right?
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is one of the best ways you can you can fill you can get the glyphosate out of your body, but if you keep bringing it into your body, you're just fighting a losing battle.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: So just start switching over.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have to be, as you said, labeled USDA organic.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Go to your local farmer who's using regenerative or organic practices that's not certified, and just start switching over the foods that you're eating.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: So you're not taking in as much of the toxin, too.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Wonderful, Cena.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um that that those are those are very helpful and and and actually quite doable.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it it would wouldn't it be interesting to to have um one of the problems with scientific studies is that they they kind of break down with too many variables.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't it have wouldn't it have been interesting in this 20-year study with these people that were tracked for 20 years to to look at the different a uh well just one thing to look at the different hydration among those?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um what um because you know as you know, what is it like 80% of Americans are dehydrated?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, municipal water tastes terrible, so nobody wants to drink it.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I drink, I mean, seemingly gallons a day.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just drink a lot, but we have wonderful water here, you know, on the farm.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: And and um, and so uh anyway, you know, that that whole that whole dehydration issue is a big one.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: So um thank you for bringing this to our attention.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, thank you all for listening to this.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: This is a this is uh one of those you know hot issue things, but it's very personal, as you can tell.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: And our decisions can make a big difference on where we go with this.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you for joining us, and we look forward to seeing you next week.