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Tami Roman & Jill Ramsay Talk "Caught In The Act", "Basketball Wives", Cheating & More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody to
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Speaker 1: c j Envy and juluis Charlomagne and the guy. We
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining
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Speaker 1: us this morning. Yes you got to add that starting
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Speaker 1: is he? So Jill Ramsey, welcome guys. What's up the world?
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Speaker 1: It's cold outside. I know it got overnight. Overnight. It's
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Speaker 1: like I live in Houston, so I'm like, oh, I
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Speaker 1: ain't prepared. Oh no, you're not used to New York here,
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Speaker 1: but I don't come outside. But Tammy and Jail, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about it first before we gets out of you
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Speaker 1: guys relationships with each other because you have a production
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Speaker 1: company together. Yes, okay, yes, we have a production company together.
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Speaker 1: Roman Ramsey. We've been knowing each other over ten years
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Speaker 1: and I'm like a law firm production there you go. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so I met her because she used to work
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Speaker 1: for Wendy Williams Productions and every time I would come
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Speaker 1: on the show, she was all with the person that
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Speaker 1: kind of like facilitated it. And so we became friends
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Speaker 1: and like when we started this venture, it's like, you
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Speaker 1: know my sister, So yeah, you know, when I left place,
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Speaker 1: she loaned me money when I was down and out.
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Speaker 1: One time she did, it was like fifteen thousand dollars really, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we weren't even really that tight then, and I
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Speaker 1: just was like telling her my situation and she was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I got you. I mean I knew I could find
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Speaker 1: her on TV. No, but I mean there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of money to listen. We were super cool. She has
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Speaker 1: a great spirit, like I like working with people with
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Speaker 1: good energy, which, as you know, because I used to
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Speaker 1: walk with you and Charlotte Magne, you know, like I
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Speaker 1: walk with people who have good energy. So that's what
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Speaker 1: it was with Tammy. So when I left the show
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Speaker 1: and I was like figuring out what I was gonna
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Speaker 1: do next, then you know, it was just a natural link.
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Speaker 1: We already had ideas for shows and other television ideas.
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Speaker 1: We have more stuff coming than what's out there, So
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Speaker 1: tell me what cooking. I've been seeing Timmy and everything.
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Speaker 1: But you know, Tammy, I would never have thought you
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Speaker 1: even had a period of being down and out. Really,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't see season two of Basketball. While
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Speaker 1: I don't know what's real and what's not real, the
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Speaker 1: storyline it was money, true, true, Yeah, But It was
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Speaker 1: a down period for like eighteen months. I say it
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Speaker 1: like it was like five six years, but it was
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Speaker 1: like eighteen months. But when you know, when you're when
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Speaker 1: you're used to having like that downtime is like, oh
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Speaker 1: my god, what am I gonna do? I've got two kids,
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Speaker 1: you know all of that. So um yeah, I definitely
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Speaker 1: had my moment, and you know, like I had good
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Speaker 1: people in my life that kind of helped me out
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Speaker 1: of that. How did you get to that point? Because us,
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Speaker 1: I was doing a show that was produced executive produced
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Speaker 1: by Queen Latifa and Shot Kim and it was a
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Speaker 1: VH one b ET hybrid co production show called Wife,
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Speaker 1: and they picked up the show. I picked up, moved
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Speaker 1: my whole family to Jersey, and then they couldn't figure
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Speaker 1: out their deal and just canceled the show. But I
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Speaker 1: was stuck here, like you know, in Jersey, and so
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Speaker 1: my kids were already enrolled in school and everything, and
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Speaker 1: I literally like used all my savings to like move
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Speaker 1: cross country, move, you know, get everything set up here,
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Speaker 1: and then they pulled the show. I started working at
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Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley and I was on the train one day
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Speaker 1: and this lady was like, oh my God, I just
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Speaker 1: watched you. I had a show called Moonlight that had
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Speaker 1: just gotten canceled. I just watched you on TV last night.
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Speaker 1: What are you doing on the train? And I was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to work like you, you know, I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to pay the bills. And then I thought about it,
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, why am I on the train? Like
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Speaker 1: what is going on to me? Like you're just like,
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Speaker 1: you know, just settling for this moment in your life.
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Speaker 1: And so I went home that weekend and saw Basketball
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Speaker 1: Wise the first season, and I was like, damn, I
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Speaker 1: was a basketball wife. I'm gonna call. Let me see
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Speaker 1: if I could get up one there. And so I
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Speaker 1: called VH one and I got on Basketball Wise. I
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Speaker 1: did not know other backstory. That's that's how it happened. Yep.
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Speaker 1: You know most people would have felt like they're too
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Speaker 1: good to get a regular job after being like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: you was like since I was thirteen years old. I
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Speaker 1: lied to get a job at Kentucky Fried Chicken when
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Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old, because you know, I'm just
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Speaker 1: I come from that. My mom worked three jobs. I
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Speaker 1: never saw anybody sit around in my family, and raised
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Speaker 1: by all women, it was like I can't be the
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Speaker 1: one that's like I was older. Yeah, yeah, and when
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Speaker 1: you're rapper as a kid, because today I'm just telling
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Speaker 1: you guys. You know, BT did decipher you want to produce,
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Speaker 1: I want to play Charlemagne, please call right now. And
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Speaker 1: they did the type of ciple with influences, and they
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Speaker 1: had like pretty Van and they had La Malan. They
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Speaker 1: had so many different people. I knew it was coming.
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Speaker 1: It's rapping, rapping, dropping it low like little so got
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Speaker 1: into it when you're a rapper because that was naturally. Now.
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Speaker 1: I was not a rapper before listen. I was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a model, a supermodel like Linda Evangelista, and
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Speaker 1: that did not happen. And so then I decided I
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Speaker 1: was going to be in a singing group. But I
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Speaker 1: can't really sing that well. Okay, So I decided I
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Speaker 1: would be the rapper of the group, but I can't
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Speaker 1: really wrap that well. But somehow I managed to get
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Speaker 1: the group signed and then we fell apart because I
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Speaker 1: just wasn't good on everything. But I tried. I shot
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Speaker 1: my you know, shot the shot at it, you know.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so they got the SI fight as you've
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Speaker 1: done told the world and so a lot of us
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Speaker 1: came out that aren't rappers that are doing you know,
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Speaker 1: like our best sixteens we can put together, you know,
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Speaker 1: and you guys had a coach, right little Kim because
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Speaker 1: they split us cups and right, yeah, so Little Kim
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Speaker 1: was my team's coach, and then we had Remy Maa
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Speaker 1: on the other side coaching the other set of people.
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Speaker 1: But my daughter Jazz wrote my rap and I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's good. Yeah, I had a ghost right there.
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Speaker 1: Several people do in the industry. You know, that's nothing new.
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Speaker 1: Jazz on the TV show Too, right, Jazz is doing
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Speaker 1: the theme song show. Yeah. Yeah, it's a family, a family.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the show How Subicious. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: leave that up to Jail since she's the creative. Come on,
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Speaker 1: tell us about how Sebicious Mom. So, How Sebicious is
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Speaker 1: like a culmination of like, I've been working at entertainment
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Speaker 1: for twenty five years, so it's a culmination of all
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Speaker 1: of my experiences and different people that I met, and
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Speaker 1: I had pretty interest in life myself. So some of
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Speaker 1: it is, you know, my elements, but there is not
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Speaker 1: a character. Because people keep asking, is it based on this,
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Speaker 1: or is it based on that there's not one character
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Speaker 1: in there that's one person, It is a culmination of
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Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. Or it might be a
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Speaker 1: scenario that I saw and it didn't turn out the
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Speaker 1: way I wanted it, so I made it that in
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Speaker 1: the show. I made it what I wanted it. You know,
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Speaker 1: like TV is just fun, you could create whatever you want.
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Speaker 1: And I think that house officious. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: you guys know it's about a fashion house and all
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Speaker 1: the crazy things that happen there with their glam squad
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Speaker 1: and everything else, but it talks about we delve into
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Speaker 1: some real life issues. Yeah, it's crazy for the television
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Speaker 1: aspect of what we deal with, some real life issues,
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Speaker 1: Like anybody could relate to something in there. There's the infidelity,
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Speaker 1: there's the drug used, you know all of that, and
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Speaker 1: Timmy killed it. Like when I made Sean Tell, I
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Speaker 1: knew that she was going to be that person. Like
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Speaker 1: we didn't even consider anybody the fashion does that head
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Speaker 1: of the fashion house. Okay, and you've been doing a
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Speaker 1: lot with cheating lately and infidelity. I had had something
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Speaker 1: listen that's you know, it's in my background. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: we got unfaithful. Of course, yes it man, there's no
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Speaker 1: way this gotta be fake. No, it's not fake. You
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Speaker 1: know the people really because let me tell you something
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Speaker 1: about VH one, Like on some for real stuff, they
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Speaker 1: never want people to actually do what you just did,
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Speaker 1: Like that's fake. Like I saw some one so and
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Speaker 1: she really dates this one because then that, you know,
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Speaker 1: lowers the integrity of the show. So they are sticklers
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Speaker 1: about these people being in these relationships, having these moments,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so that when they come
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Speaker 1: to us, but help, you know, um, we really are
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Speaker 1: able to navigate them, help navigate to take out though,
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Speaker 1: because I mean I've seen one episode where the girl
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Speaker 1: was dating the guy's friend, and then the guy's friends
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Speaker 1: just started dating the girl and then they met in
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Speaker 1: a restaurant and then they argued and then they had
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Speaker 1: dinner and then they both left together. I'm like, this
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Speaker 1: is weird. This is why there was no fighting, no
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Speaker 1: furniture moving, no slapping, no punching, no kicking nothing. That's
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Speaker 1: called maturityship. You know it was. It was toxic enough.
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Speaker 1: But you know, we're not trying to be like love,
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Speaker 1: you know, for oh my god, they're gonna kill me.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this comparison at the expense of had
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Speaker 1: losing some friendships. But we're not loving hip hop, you know,
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Speaker 1: like we're not trying to throw chairs and fight and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. We really try to stare away from that. However,
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Speaker 1: we can't help how somebody reacts, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: and we just try to control that moment if it
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Speaker 1: goes like that. But NB, I don't know why you asking.
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Speaker 1: Aren't you aren't you coming on as a co host?
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Speaker 1: Aren't you said? I thought you said coming on? I
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Speaker 1: was like, you're just dumb. Why are you going to
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Speaker 1: show call un faithful? It's about helping other brothers because
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Speaker 1: he's speaking from his experience of having been cheater and
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Speaker 1: then trying to help keep going down that role for
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Speaker 1: no reason. It just keep bringing up that story for
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Speaker 1: no story. It's not his story story. It's not his
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Speaker 1: story's gonna help me help People's right. Okay, I'll just
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Speaker 1: be over here seeing black men don't cheat. That's enough
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Speaker 1: for me. What's tell me, what's your craziest unfaithful story
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Speaker 1: from your past? Because you said there's things you've dealt
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Speaker 1: with in the past too, So if you could say
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Speaker 1: I had a crazy situation. What would you say is
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Speaker 1: in the top craziest. Okay, one of the top ones
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Speaker 1: was with my ex husband and I had a feeling
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Speaker 1: that there was a chick right, that there was somebody
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Speaker 1: that he was seeing, and there was this one girl
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Speaker 1: that just would not go away. And so the team
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Speaker 1: was on the road and I kept calling his hotel
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Speaker 1: room like and he wouldn't answer. So I'm like, he
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Speaker 1: won't sleep this hard like you you're not You're not
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Speaker 1: in that room. Depends how along the game. The reason
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Speaker 1: in Boston, I'm sorry. So as I was saying, I
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Speaker 1: remember the girl's name and called the hotel back and
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Speaker 1: asked for her no, and they put me through and
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Speaker 1: she answered no, And I said, let me talk to Kenny,
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Speaker 1: and she said hold on, no shame, no shame, no shame.
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Speaker 1: And he got on the phone. He was like, hello,
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Speaker 1: because he asleep, and I said, but that's not what
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Speaker 1: I said. I said, I said he wasn't in his room, um,
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Speaker 1: and uh he heard my voice and hung up. I
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Speaker 1: know he was so mad at that woman. Why would
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Speaker 1: you pass the two kids together? Actually, damn your mouth
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Speaker 1: some black. Did you stay after that? Or was it
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Speaker 1: over was at the final starre. I did stay. I
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Speaker 1: did stay, and I think that's why, you know, coming
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Speaker 1: from that perspective and you ain't xiety, I did say.
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Speaker 1: But that's why I think I'm the perfect person for
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Speaker 1: Caught in the Act because I understand a person's thought
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Speaker 1: process of trying to rationalize, navigate, understand, you know, comprehend
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Speaker 1: why a person is doing this, but having so much
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Speaker 1: love for them that you try to make it work
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Speaker 1: even though you see the signs in front of you.
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Speaker 1: And it took me some time to get to the
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Speaker 1: point of where it was like, this is not good
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Speaker 1: and I've got to love myself more. And so that's
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Speaker 1: what I'm encouraging people to do. I'm Caught in the
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Speaker 1: app and it's real and it's absolutely positively really shot
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Speaker 1: an episode with Timmy and they go through everything and
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Speaker 1: I had to try to help the brother out and
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Speaker 1: you know it was like cheetahs, yeah yeah, two point though,
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Speaker 1: but getting stabbed on the boat and what he's doing
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Speaker 1: wrong and explain them to when I'm breaking them down
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Speaker 1: in the way that he would tell me, give me
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Speaker 1: some tips. How did you not get caught all those
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Speaker 1: y I break it down and I explain what happened
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Speaker 1: to the point one time when they argue it and
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Speaker 1: and Timmy's looking at me, I'm like, Timmy, help, He's like, Timmy,
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Speaker 1: get up cheated when Peter Guggs hosting and to du it, man,
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Speaker 1: you be cheating to the guy did say that to him,
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Speaker 1: he was like, help me when you have cheated? He
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Speaker 1: was like, but this is what I learned in that moment.
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Speaker 1: And so the guy, you know, he was able to
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Speaker 1: make the guy understand. But it's really good. We're excited
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Speaker 1: about having Envy joined us. How many shows have y'all
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Speaker 1: pitched that got turned down before y'all got you know,
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Speaker 1: these shows rolling on there. Oh we were we've been
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Speaker 1: a company for about three and a half four about
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Speaker 1: oh wow wow. And we heard a lot of nosy. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we heard a lot of nose. And then you know,
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Speaker 1: but like with anybody or any industry, if it's what
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Speaker 1: you want to do and you're passionate about it, you
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Speaker 1: don't give up on it. And particularly with entertainment, it's
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Speaker 1: like you just gotta wait for the tie to change
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Speaker 1: because what they don't like today, everybody's gotta have it tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and so we just held
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Speaker 1: out and it used to be called something else in
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Speaker 1: the beginning when the falls then she changed the name,
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Speaker 1: changed the name. But like it's hard because, um, I
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Speaker 1: don't think people understand there's only so many hours on
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Speaker 1: television period, so there's only so much real estate. So
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Speaker 1: and then for black women to get a show on television,
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Speaker 1: we weren't gonna stop. We were not gonna take no
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Speaker 1: for an answer, and we're coming with it, like you're
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Speaker 1: gonna see a show come after that. We're gonna have
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Speaker 1: something coming at Netflix. Like we're not playing, we're not
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Speaker 1: letting the gas up at all. And even with this one,
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Speaker 1: it was all it was all women, yo. Kim Fields
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Speaker 1: directed all eight episodes, and and we had all females
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Speaker 1: on the crew, female grips like you know, like when
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Speaker 1: you talk about, like, um, a demographic that's not represented
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Speaker 1: much in Hollywood. For us, we had eighty five percent
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Speaker 1: black females on House of Vicious and so we were
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Speaker 1: excited about that to do that. That's part of our
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Speaker 1: thing from Roman Ramsey. Also, we just wanted to make
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Speaker 1: sure we put new people on so you weren't seeing
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Speaker 1: like all the music from House of Vicious is on
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Speaker 1: the artists, some of my son's friends, all sorts of stuff,
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Speaker 1: but like it's really it's really crazy. They don't want
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Speaker 1: a lot. DJ Prince and those guys, and they gave
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Speaker 1: us a lot of music just on the strength. Like
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Speaker 1: it was, you know, like really using our relationships and networking.
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Speaker 1: All the cast members are my real friends that I've
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Speaker 1: worked with, and it's like, hey, can you just jump
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Speaker 1: on this project with me? So it was really a
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Speaker 1: labor of love that b et ended up loving, and
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Speaker 1: you know, here we are House of Vicious. Now, did
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Speaker 1: your daughter have to I'm auditioned? Did Lyric have to audition? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: When he was talking about his daughter auditioning but not
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Speaker 1: getting the role, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I heard about that. Well,
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Speaker 1: my daughter was actually good. You know, I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, just losing all types of I don't
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Speaker 1: know why his situation was, as you know, I no
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Speaker 1: hall um, but my daughter was good, and I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, why not give her the role. She's in
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Speaker 1: law school, she's young, you know, she's got her own
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Speaker 1: set of bills, trying to establish her life. Why not
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Speaker 1: give her an opportunity as long as she can do
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Speaker 1: the job. Now has she been whacked, then it's like, no,
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Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody else to play this character. But
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Speaker 1: I feel like the black culture just always wants to
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Speaker 1: speak about nepotism. Oh they only got this because this
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Speaker 1: is their fathers uncle. Yes, so what so what each other?
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Speaker 1: You know, my parents job doing something my son isn't
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Speaker 1: it too? Yeah? But he was like what he said
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Speaker 1: the opposite. He was like, you know, the way I
17:44
Speaker 1: played football, you didn't want to take an opportunity from
17:48
Speaker 1: somebody who might have got anyone. And we were like, okay,
17:51
Speaker 1: put on their uniform, and so because that's what they do,
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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. They played football against you. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you when do you have the time,
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Speaker 1: But you said, you live in Houston, you're shooting Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: you're shooting LA, you shoot New York. When do you
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Speaker 1: have the time to do everything? I don't sleep, No,
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Speaker 1: I don't. I really just don't sleep. I mean, but
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Speaker 1: it's it's y'all know how that is because y'all doing
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Speaker 1: the exact same thing. It's like we just fit it
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Speaker 1: in somehow. I don't know, But um, you know, when
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Speaker 1: you want to do it. It's not work, right, Like
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Speaker 1: you love doing what you're doing, so I just fit
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Speaker 1: it in. But I don't sleep. I don't want to sleep.
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Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old. I'll be sleeping a long
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Speaker 1: ass time. In a minute, well not a minute, lord,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: ninety ninety at least let me get to ninety. Now,
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Speaker 1: the truth you wanted to be on Real Housewives? I
18:51
Speaker 1: did audition for Real Housewives of Atlanta, and um, it
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Speaker 1: was after Basketball Wives had gotten canceled, and so I
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Speaker 1: tried to get up on there and they told me no,
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Speaker 1: they're straight up no. Yeah. What was the reason? They said?
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Speaker 1: I was too big of a personality on an opposing network? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so they do. People would affiliate you too much? Yes,
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Speaker 1: with the other the other brand. Yeah, that was very similar, right, So, um,
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Speaker 1: I got it. Now, how's married life for you at
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Speaker 1: Reggie Stale? Because you are super busy? Are y'all making
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Speaker 1: time for each other? We're always together? Okay, we're always together.
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Speaker 1: Like the way his you know, job is he does
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Speaker 1: e commerce so he can work. So that's perfect. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's absolutely perfect. So we're always together. We're never
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Speaker 1: well today we're separated. And it's funny because I called
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Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, I'm in the gym, and
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Speaker 1: I heard music like a TV something in the background,
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Speaker 1: just laughing because you know, and I was like, what
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Speaker 1: gym got to TV all loud like that. I decided
19:54
Speaker 1: to go to the gym. I'm trying to me in
20:06
Speaker 1: the morning of the news beyond that's show in my
20:11
Speaker 1: hell I saw, I was like, well, let me FaceTime
20:14
Speaker 1: childtime either you're be in your head because of like
20:19
Speaker 1: the hosting and the show up. My husband has never
20:25
Speaker 1: given me any reason. Like I said, we're always together,
20:28
Speaker 1: and plus I just think it's a part of his character.
20:30
Speaker 1: To me, I feel like anybody that cheats, it's a
20:33
Speaker 1: character flaw. I agree with that that you then have
20:37
Speaker 1: to mature and grow out of. Right. So he's never
20:41
Speaker 1: given me any of that. And he comes from a
20:43
Speaker 1: two parent household, really understands and respects women. So the
20:48
Speaker 1: in therapy, any hype of therapy, No, he's not in therapy. Okay,
20:53
Speaker 1: I mean I'm saying I go to therapy once a week.
20:55
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of times I've realized the
20:57
Speaker 1: cheating comes from you know, those unhells trauma. Ta no, no, no,
21:03
Speaker 1: he just he's just a really, for lack of better verbage,
21:07
Speaker 1: a really good guy that just really respects and understands women.
21:10
Speaker 1: So it's never given me any reason. But I think
21:12
Speaker 1: this tell us a little bit of backstory on the
21:18
Speaker 1: show and a Chantelle and her husband. Yeah, so Chantelle
21:22
Speaker 1: is like a fashion designer, always had that dream, and
21:27
Speaker 1: her and Kine, who's played by red Rick Williams, decided
21:32
Speaker 1: to start this company together and within the company, as
21:37
Speaker 1: they get build bigger and more famous, of course you
21:40
Speaker 1: get more visibility, so people are constantly throwing themselves at you.
21:44
Speaker 1: And then he weakens to that pressure the first time around.
21:50
Speaker 1: Allegedly because I don't want to give away too much,
21:52
Speaker 1: that's happening in season two, but what everybody's watching now,
21:56
Speaker 1: he ends up with a mistress, and um, you know,
22:01
Speaker 1: reliving that it's like those triggers like we you know,
22:04
Speaker 1: you know, even though you may have healed from them,
22:06
Speaker 1: when they're back in your face again, it's like I
22:08
Speaker 1: remember how I found that I've been It takes you
22:11
Speaker 1: right back to that place. So, um, because Rock said,
22:14
Speaker 1: a man is only as faithful as his options. You
22:16
Speaker 1: believe it that a man is only as faithful as
22:20
Speaker 1: his options. Well, if he considers the one that he's
22:22
Speaker 1: with his priority and not his option, then he's not
22:25
Speaker 1: looking at the other option. Believe what. I don't believe
22:34
Speaker 1: that I used to. But no, I feel like everyone
22:37
Speaker 1: has options too, right, Yeah, they might be great ones,
22:40
Speaker 1: but everybody. Yeah, everybody does have options. But I think
22:44
Speaker 1: you have to get to a point when you're specifically
22:46
Speaker 1: when you're talking about relationships where two people are trying
22:48
Speaker 1: to become one, that you have to be respectful and
22:52
Speaker 1: mindful of that dynamic, that interpersonal dynamic, and how you
22:57
Speaker 1: would want that person to treat you right. And I
22:59
Speaker 1: think men sometimes as such narcissist, even the covert narcissist,
23:04
Speaker 1: even because they like to make it seem like they're
23:07
Speaker 1: not a narcissist. And everything they're doing is for the
23:09
Speaker 1: benefit of you and the love of you. And I'm
23:11
Speaker 1: you know, and when something goes awry, it's you did
23:15
Speaker 1: it and not me, you know, And so I think
23:17
Speaker 1: that you know, just what do yeah? Yeah, And you
23:24
Speaker 1: just got to get to a point of disrespecting your
23:26
Speaker 1: person enough that you don't want to see them hurt.
23:30
Speaker 1: That's real, that's true. How are you able to do
23:32
Speaker 1: all these different BT shows? There's no like non competes
23:35
Speaker 1: because you want Miss Pat, the Family Business, this one
23:39
Speaker 1: House of Vicious, Unfaithful, Viacom. Okay, how are you able
23:44
Speaker 1: to do all that? Well? Miss Pat came after The
23:49
Speaker 1: Family Business, which I was already a series regular on,
23:53
Speaker 1: which came after, um, what's the other one of them?
23:57
Speaker 1: One us of it? So it was Family Business I
24:02
Speaker 1: had first. Then Miss Pat made me a series regular,
24:04
Speaker 1: and then how Selfcious made me a serious regular about
24:07
Speaker 1: how Seficious wasn't always on beet it was since licensed
24:12
Speaker 1: and acquired by BT so they couldn't battle that, and
24:16
Speaker 1: then Viacom, you know, Unfaithful under Viacom, which is unscripted,
24:21
Speaker 1: which doesn't compete with scripted, and then Truth be Told
24:24
Speaker 1: as on Apple. But I'm recurring on that show. How
24:27
Speaker 1: crazy it was when before an episode of Unfaithful came out,
24:30
Speaker 1: there already had knew that they were going to do
24:32
Speaker 1: season two. I was so shocked. I was so surprised
24:36
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh my god, my agent didn't
24:38
Speaker 1: even tell me. And you know, then I saw it
24:40
Speaker 1: on the trades, and I was like, oh, they took
24:41
Speaker 1: an old quote from like something I had said when
24:44
Speaker 1: the show was first getting picked up, And I'm like,
24:46
Speaker 1: this is like really amazing. And so to get twenty
24:49
Speaker 1: episodes before the first six even air and then now
24:51
Speaker 1: they've since added six more onto that, so we've got
24:54
Speaker 1: a twenty six episode season. I mean, they really believe
24:57
Speaker 1: in it, you know. And I think Chris, who of
25:00
Speaker 1: course is over all of viacomments, are very big cheaters fan. Yes,
25:06
Speaker 1: so this is you know, version just done better. Did
25:11
Speaker 1: you ever envision all of this for yourself? Thinking about
25:13
Speaker 1: where you started off, like the real world, way way
25:16
Speaker 1: way back in the day, were you like one day
25:18
Speaker 1: because you were acting? Also, did you envision, like, you know,
25:22
Speaker 1: all of this happening. Do you feel like you brought
25:24
Speaker 1: it into I never thought that I'd have five shows
25:27
Speaker 1: all at one time, right, So that's really a testimony
25:31
Speaker 1: of like when God shows up, he shows out as
25:34
Speaker 1: long as you've done the necessary work to prepare for
25:38
Speaker 1: the blessings that he's trying to bestow upon you. And
25:41
Speaker 1: I feel like all the things before this moment, I
25:43
Speaker 1: was still learning, learning lessons, but not you know, honoring
25:48
Speaker 1: what I was learning, which is why I wasn't getting anywhere.
25:51
Speaker 1: It was like I was stagnant. It's like I'm I'm
25:53
Speaker 1: I think I'm learning it, but I'm not applying it right.
25:56
Speaker 1: And so once I started really applying what I was learning,
26:00
Speaker 1: there would be my friendships, my relationship, you know, with
26:03
Speaker 1: my husband, my relationship with my daughter, just starting to
26:07
Speaker 1: be respectful and have an attitude of gratitude and really
26:11
Speaker 1: just trying to elevate my mind. That's when I feel
26:14
Speaker 1: like everything just started falling into place and things started
26:17
Speaker 1: changing and the wheel started turning. I mean, and you know,
26:21
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be like this, but I'm
26:23
Speaker 1: thankful that it is like this. Now. Is it true
26:26
Speaker 1: you you gave your husband, Reggie, an opportunity to take
26:28
Speaker 1: a break for a year or two. That is untrue?
26:31
Speaker 1: Okay what I said? Dot Com said, yeah, yeah, I
26:42
Speaker 1: was on the reel and they give you two minutes.
26:45
Speaker 1: Y'all have been on this show to throw a question
26:47
Speaker 1: at you, you answer trying to answer it in two minutes.
26:50
Speaker 1: And so what I was saying was I have eggs
26:55
Speaker 1: that have been frozen. We had been trying to find
26:58
Speaker 1: a surrocate, and every time we started the process, I
27:03
Speaker 1: could never finish because I'm now over here doing this show,
27:07
Speaker 1: over here doing the six months on this pack. You
27:09
Speaker 1: know that type of energy. So what I was saying was,
27:12
Speaker 1: because you know, you gotta really investigate that stuff. You
27:15
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you know, you looking through these books
27:17
Speaker 1: that these women trying to carry. I don't know if
27:19
Speaker 1: you've ever actually, no, y'all probably never have gone through
27:23
Speaker 1: this process. You know, it's all on a website and
27:26
Speaker 1: you got to go through hundreds and thousands of profiles
27:29
Speaker 1: of women who would like to carry your baby. Right.
27:32
Speaker 1: So then outside of that, it's like, I don't know
27:34
Speaker 1: if y'all did enough of a background check. So now
27:36
Speaker 1: I got to do my own background check. You know,
27:38
Speaker 1: all of these things, and we kept falling out of
27:42
Speaker 1: time to do it. So I was saying, you take
27:44
Speaker 1: the time away from me because here, again, we're together
27:48
Speaker 1: every day. So you go and focus on that and
27:52
Speaker 1: find this chick and once you narrow it down, bringing
27:55
Speaker 1: back right right, I text baby, Yeah, So that's what
28:02
Speaker 1: I was saying. No, I don't want him to stick
28:04
Speaker 1: his penis nowhere else. That's a scary thing because it
28:06
Speaker 1: really is letting somebody like dictate. You can't control what
28:09
Speaker 1: someone else does, and for your egg to be in
28:12
Speaker 1: this person, You're like, how do I pick? Exactly? And
28:15
Speaker 1: so I really wanted to be a part of the process,
28:17
Speaker 1: but I couldn't. So I'm like, you go find the
28:19
Speaker 1: person and then bring through media top three and then
28:22
Speaker 1: we'll go from the air, you know type energy. But
28:24
Speaker 1: now we've kind of decided we're just both too busy,
28:28
Speaker 1: you know so, and I'm never have been that type
28:31
Speaker 1: of mother. I'm very hands on with I'm still in there.
28:37
Speaker 1: What other projects that you guys having the works out?
28:39
Speaker 1: You're accepting pitches from other people? Yeah, we are, We
28:42
Speaker 1: are accepting pitches. Um. I'm scared to say out loud
28:47
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that you have because you know,
28:49
Speaker 1: you turn around and then somebody just booms on air.
28:51
Speaker 1: So I can't say, but we had yeah, exactly exactly.
28:58
Speaker 1: But we have a you know, more reality coming. We
29:01
Speaker 1: have something. Um, I'll say black panther ish, Um, that's big.
29:08
Speaker 1: So I'll say that I don't want to narrow it
29:10
Speaker 1: down because the right to it. But where can they
29:14
Speaker 1: see House of Vicious? It is on b et Wednesdays
29:18
Speaker 1: at nine as soon to move to be Et plus
29:22
Speaker 1: and then we're waiting on our season to pick up
29:24
Speaker 1: plus is killing it. I just say, Charlotmagne makes us
29:28
Speaker 1: guest appearance for finale. That is so big to me,
29:33
Speaker 1: like Jill's what what is his character? You know's nickname
29:41
Speaker 1: is Vicious and he should have been on the season
29:48
Speaker 1: two season. Never know where we're gonna go, guys so
29:54
Speaker 1: much and we look forward to Wednesdays at nine him
29:57
Speaker 1: on b ET House of Vicious and thank you guys,
30:00
Speaker 1: than here you go. It's the Breakfast Club. Go more.