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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Monday, October twenty third. I'm your
- 0:03host, tom Or. The Wisconsin game is in five days. The game
- 0:07against Michigan in thirty three days. While the Ohio State Buckeyes have now moved
- 0:11on to focusing on those Wisconsin Badgers, the Ohio State fan base they might
- 0:15be taken another day or two to savor that twenty to twelve victory over Penn
- 0:19State. We're going to be taking a look back at that game through the
- 0:23help of Ohio State head coach Ryan Day, Hia State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles,
- 0:28and Penn State head coach James Franklin. What they had to say after
- 0:31the game. You're going to be hearing directly from all three of those guys.
- 0:34We're going to start with Ryan Day. That was one of the best
- 0:37defensive performances of his time in Columbus. The only touchdown they gave up against
- 0:42an offense that had put up six to three points the week before that and
- 0:45was ranked coming the best in the nation. The only touchdown they gave up
- 0:47that team was in the final minute when they were in prevent defense in a
- 0:51two score game. So this was the first question of the day just to
- 0:55Ryan Day's thoughts on that defensive performance. So he's going to have a little
- 0:58bit of a diversion about the crowd and then the atmosphere at one point,
- 1:00but he'll circle back to the defense. And they shouldn't have been out there
- 1:03at the end of the end of the game. You know, that was
- 1:06not their fault. I thought, first off, the crowd was tremendous.
- 1:08You know, Jean brought it up. I brought it up. When when
- 1:12the shoes rocking like that, it's it's difference maker. I thought our players
- 1:17fed off of it. You could tangibly see it on the field. They
- 1:19just fed off the crowd. And we got that sack on JT on that
- 1:23fourth down. That was as loud as I've I've heard in a long time.
- 1:26And I just felt the toughness, the physicality on defense we started off
- 1:30with, you know, really stopping the run and then forcing them to throw
- 1:33the ball. And you know, there's a lot of people who did a
- 1:37lot of great things on defense, but I got to give Jim Knowles a
- 1:38lot of credit his staff for, you know, the adjustments they've made.
- 1:44You know, that was that was you know, two top ten wins now
- 1:46in the first seven games where our defense played really well. And I'm happy
- 1:53for our guys. I'm happy for the success they've had. You know,
- 1:56they came off of the last season with a few scars, just like we
- 1:59all did. But you're starting to see the confidence grow in a big way.
- 2:01All Right, that was a game that grades out is at least an
- 2:04A maybe an A plus for that Ohio State defense. How about the offense,
- 2:07It was not quite as impressive a day, but again, much like
- 2:10the Penn State offense, they were going up against a very good defense as
- 2:14well. So what did Ryan Day think about the offense's performance? Yeah,
- 2:17number one defense in a country statistically coming in, so we knew it was
- 2:21going to be a little bit that way. I thought there were times where
- 2:23we actually moved the ball, okay, didn't run the ball well enough and
- 2:27didn't get enough explosive plays. We certainly, you know, could use you
- 2:31know, Trey and and the Mecca back, but you know, we had
- 2:35enough to win and you know, we don't score there. We we had
- 2:38a couple of really nice plays designed for Devin and he rolled the ankle there
- 2:43and you know, and so it was out for the game, so that
- 2:46that kind of threw us off. You know, we still can't get in
- 2:49on those two you know, third and fourth down plays that would have been
- 2:51a huge difference maker. But you know, overall just you know, not
- 2:54good enough. But I got to give Marvin Harrison so much credit, you
- 2:58know, to to go for eleven catches for one sixty two and a touchdown
- 3:02when you know, I would think most teams the first thing they look at
- 3:06is how do I take away Marvin Harrison? And we targeted him sixteen times.
- 3:08I think he was open on most sixteen of those plays. And so
- 3:14you know, he showed up in a big spot today again. And you
- 3:16know, I would argue to say, I haven't seen everybody play across the
- 3:20country. That it's hard for me to find somebody who's better in the country,
- 3:23you know. So you know, I don't know, you know,
- 3:24how he gets on these lists or doesn't get on these lists, but to
- 3:28me, he's one of the most special players in the country. That was
- 3:30not a perfect game by any means for Ohio State quarterback Kyle McCord. You
- 3:35rarely see a college quarterback play perfect games. That's probably not a fair standard
- 3:38to hold him too. But he now has a road win over Notre Dame
- 3:42and now a home win over Penn State. So how has Ryan Day seeing
- 3:46Kyle McCord progressed throughout the season. He took care of the ball. You
- 3:50know, there was the one sack fumble that was a return for a touchdown.
- 3:52So you know, if I wasn't a hole there, you know that
- 3:54that would have been a whole different game. So we got it. We
- 3:57got to get rid of that stuff. It was a whole well I think
- 4:00that's why I double clutched it. But still there were some really good things
- 4:02he kept battling in there, and you know, did enough for us to
- 4:05win. But I know we're going to watch this film and there's still going
- 4:09to be things that we need to grow on and then things that we did
- 4:11well that we got to enhance. And you know, we'll watch the film
- 4:15and on Tuesday, I'll have a better assessment of that to fight figure out
- 4:16if you grated out a champion or not. But you know, I just
- 4:20I know we left a lot of plays on the field today on offense,
- 4:24and we didn't execute well on off in certain areas. Now again Number one
- 4:27defense in a country, so you have to it's all relatives. So we'll
- 4:30look at it, and it was good enough to win, but certainly our
- 4:32defense put us in a great situation on offense to win. You heard Ryan
- 4:36Day mentioned there that the defense sort of helped out the offense at some points
- 4:40during the game. And one of the big things that they do to help
- 4:42the offense was the defense just got off the field. Penn State was one
- 4:46of sixteen on third down. I'm I say again, one for sixteen on
- 4:50third down, and the one that they made came in the final minute of
- 4:54the game. So they were zero for fifteen through the first fifty nine minutes
- 4:58of the football game. That is crazy against the team of the caliber of
- 5:02Penn State. So how did the Ohio State defense do that? Yeah,
- 5:05we did a I mean one for sixteen is just tremendous and then one for
- 5:10three on third down, so I guess it's two of what nineteen for third
- 5:13and four thounds unbelievable job, you know. I think that was the combination
- 5:16of the rush and the coverage. I thought Jermaine Matthews played a big time
- 5:19game for a freshman, having a step up without having Denzel in there that
- 5:24was big. I'll forget some guys because there was just a lot of great
- 5:27play on defense. But you know, if we can play like this,
- 5:30then this is that championship level defense. And if we can keep growing as
- 5:32a team, then you know, you know, we'll be tough to beat
- 5:35here down the road. Everyone has a different way to look at games.
- 5:39There are people who are going to look at everything through the filter of well,
- 5:42is this good enough to win the national championship? Is this good enough
- 5:44to beat Michigan. There's just also a certain amount of this time of year,
- 5:48in the words of Al Davis, just win baby, just got to
- 5:51go one to zero each week and good things eventually will happen. That adds
- 5:55up. This was also, though, a big win for their resume as
- 5:59a college football playoff contender. So Briandy was asked about that and his answer
- 6:03sort of goes to a few different places. He sort of meanders through a
- 6:06couple of different answers as he's sort of working through it in his head.
- 6:09But I think you're going to find the difference. I'm sure there's a couple
- 6:12of teams out there, maybe not that have two top ten victories right now,
- 6:15on their resume, and I think the most encouraging thing, although it's
- 6:18like this back and forth, is you know, we come out of this
- 6:21game thinking that, you know, we probably should have won the game by
- 6:25a few touchdowns at least, So I'm going to wait for that tomorrow.
- 6:29I'm going to enjoy this because it is you know, you have to find
- 6:31these moments to enjoy, because this is a top ten win. And if
- 6:33you said you know you're going to beat Penn State today twenty to twelve,
- 6:36you know, where do I sign up? You know, this is a
- 6:40good team coming in here, well coached. James does a great job.
- 6:43Man, it does a great job on defense. You know, Mike,
- 6:45as we know, does a great job on offense. And you know they
- 6:47have good players, you know, NFL players all over the field. So
- 6:51you know, like you said, the goal is to be one to zero.
- 6:55It doesn't always look pretty at times in these games. You know,
- 6:58I think about the last few games that we've been in against or not few
- 7:02since I've been here, the games that we've been in against Penn State,
- 7:04it's like it's kind of ugly early on, and then everything kind of happens
- 7:08in the fourth quarter. I know, Jerry, you mentioned that last year,
- 7:11like it was sixteen fourteen and the final ended up forty one to thirty
- 7:15three or whatever it was. You know, so we we knew we had
- 7:16to get this game into the fourth quarter. Tom and I Tommy Aikenberg mentioned
- 7:19something in the locker room about how we have to be second half warriors and
- 7:24if you know, we want to take the next step as a team,
- 7:26you know, we got to finish this thing off the right way. Really
- 7:29good leadership there. I thought Kate Stover's leadership was tremendous. Xavier Johnson had
- 7:32to step up with a mecha out again, I thought he did. That.
- 7:35Leadership is important in big games like this. If this was an A
- 7:40or A plus performance for the Ohio State defense, it was probably an A
- 7:43or A plus performance for Ohio State wide receiver Marvin Harrison as well. He
- 7:47had eleven catches, ten of them went for first downs. That is nuts
- 7:53ten first downs just for one wide receiver. He also set a new Ohio
- 7:58state record, according to spokesman Jerry emmig with his fifth game in his career
- 8:01with one hundred and sixty receiving yards. That breaks the old mark, which
- 8:05he had shared with David Boston. So Brian Day was asked, when you
- 8:09have a player like Marvin Harrison Junior, what does he do to get ready?
- 8:13How does he prepare himself for a game like that? People ask me,
- 8:16you know, a couple of guys in this room when when they're at
- 8:20there in the woody during a Tuesday, Wednesday or whenever they're in there,
- 8:22say who's going to leave first? You or Marvin? I said, I
- 8:26don't know, but I always looked before I leave the sea. I mean,
- 8:30he's in there early in the morning, he's out there late at night.
- 8:33Practice. We'll practice, you know, however long we practice and practice
- 8:35gets done, you know, I'll go up and eat and he'll still be
- 8:37out there on the jugs going through the routine. You know, he goes
- 8:41through every play at you know, just going through it in his head.
- 8:45He'll go out there and throw with Kyle. Then he'll get on the machine
- 8:48that he has, which you should see this machine, and he can actually
- 8:50feed it and then he presses the button and he shoots it to himself.
- 8:54Coach Mick made a rule that he has to bring somebody with him. Now
- 8:56though he can't just go on his own, but guys have embraced that,
- 9:00and that's something that's a legacy that he'll leave behind, is his work ethic.
- 9:05Now on to Ohio State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles. Knowles had an up
- 9:09and down first season in Columbus. It was undoubtedly a significant improvement from the
- 9:13twenty twenty one defense under Kerry Combs. That was good, But then the
- 9:18end of the season against Michigan and Georgia, and the defense gave up more
- 9:22than forty points in both of those games, gave up a few too many
- 9:24big plays, and Ohio State lost both of those games. So coming into
- 9:28this year, there was a lot of talk about limiting the big plays and
- 9:30the fact that Knowles's defense typically get better the longer he's been at a school.
- 9:35So what does it mean to him and to the defense to have that
- 9:39kind of performance after the way last year? And you know, your first,
- 9:41you're happy for the players, you know, and happy for our head
- 9:45coach and all the fans and that they now have confidence, you know that
- 9:50they can win the game on defense. You know, we I don't look
- 9:56at stats, but I guess Penn State had a pretty good defense, you
- 9:58know, So We talk to them before the game about, hey, you're
- 10:03not just playing Penn State's offense. You're playing Penn State's defense. You know.
- 10:05If they make one play, we got to make two. If they
- 10:07make two, we got to make three. So it's a sense of maturity,
- 10:13leadership. Yeah, maybe a little chip on your shoulder, you know.
- 10:18And we've done a lot of work to have everyone have faith in us
- 10:24for sure. Talked earlier about how Kyle McCord's performance has improved throughout the course
- 10:28of the season. Where is the defense now as compared to the beginning of
- 10:31the year. They know the scheme, you know, and when I make
- 10:35adjustments during the week and the things you talked about that we had to get
- 10:39the stops, we had to get them off schedule, and we make little
- 10:43adjustments in the scheme, they pick up on it, you know. And
- 10:46that's a big deal because winning those downs in a game like that is huge,
- 10:50and that only comes with preparation and with guys who are knowledgeable about the
- 10:54scheme. One thing that certainly Merritt's mention here is at Ohio State put that
- 10:58before worms together against that Penn State offense, and they did it without their
- 11:03top cornerback Denzel Burke had to sit out the game with an injury. That
- 11:07meant that a true freshman, for freshman, Jermaine Matthews got thrust into a
- 11:11big spot. You had Jordan Hancock playing outside in Denzel Burke spot during a
- 11:16lot of situations, but then when they moved, they moved Burke inside in
- 11:20passing situations. Jermaine Matthews is out there. That is a big spot for
- 11:24a true freshman, and he really held up and really passed that first big
- 11:28test for him. Yeah, like I said, the kids got moxie.
- 11:31You know, I don't think he knew how big a moment it was.
- 11:35And that's not a bad that's not a bad thing. You know. He
- 11:37just went out and played, made some tackles, you know, didn't flinch,
- 11:41you know, at the moment of truth. And yeah, really really
- 11:46proud of him. He's a good player. Ohio State returned it's two starting
- 11:50linebackers this year, and that was viewed as what probably was going to be
- 11:54a real strength in the defense with Tommy Eikenberg and Steel Chambers, and then
- 11:58Cody Simon sort of is that third line back and it has sort of been
- 12:01an up and down season for those backers this year, They've had some good
- 12:03moments, they've had some not good moments, and Cody Simon has earned a
- 12:07bigger role as the season has moved along. Saturday against Penn State, all
- 12:13three of those guys had a good game. That was a big day for
- 12:15the linebackers, both against the run and the pass. That intermediate passing game
- 12:20combined with a you know, a really strong running attack. We knew that
- 12:24they were going to be a real focus in terms of making plays. I've
- 12:30always had faith in them and you know they're doing the right things, and
- 12:33then it's just, you know, it's that competitive excellence showing up when we
- 12:37need them the most. And those guys are veterans and they showed that we
- 12:41can count on them. So there was a lot of happiness, a lot
- 12:43of joy in the Ohio State postgame press conference room. I can tell you
- 12:48from having been in the past, Penn State one not so much. You
- 12:52have all the same facts being discussed in a very different tone, in a
- 12:56very different side of the conversation. So I want to let you hear just
- 12:58a couple things from James Franklin about some of the things we talked about earlier
- 13:03in the show from the Ohio State perspective that it was just kind of interesting
- 13:05to let you hear what his view on things were. Let's start with the
- 13:09fact that Penn State was one of sixteen on third downs. Well, I
- 13:15think the combination of too many thirds third and longs obvious passing downs, which
- 13:20obviously you want to stay out of and manage. But even when we did
- 13:26have some short yardage situations, they were playing cover zero. We felt like
- 13:31coming into this game this was one of the better short yardage defenses that we
- 13:35had seen on film. They had a good plan and they executed it well.
- 13:39It would probably be overly simplistic to take a game which featured two really
- 13:43really good defenses going head to head, that was such a low scoring slugfest
- 13:46for most of the game and boil it down to Ohio. Ohio State had
- 13:50Marvin Harrison Junior and Penn State didn't. That's probably oversimplified, but not that
- 13:54oversimplified, because the day of good news for the Ohio State secondary meant a
- 14:00very frustrating day for Penn Streate Heandre Lambert Smith and the rest of the Penn
- 14:03State receivers. Why was that such a frustrating day for Penn State. You
- 14:09know, obviously, key Andre's kind of our most veteran guy. Same thing
- 14:13with with Trey. Trey's been out for a couple weeks, had him back.
- 14:16Our tight end unit's been able to do that at times, but I
- 14:20think their combination of man coverage and the pressures they were bringing, they were
- 14:24getting there a half second before we were able to get opened, and we
- 14:30weren't able to make plays in those scenarios. Well, hope you guys enjoyed
- 14:33that. Always interesting to hear from the opposing coaching staff. I feel like
- 14:35that's something that gives you a little bit of a different perspective on the stuff
- 14:39you're hearing from the Ohio State coaching staff. So if you like hearing from
- 14:43the opposing coaching staff or the Ohio State coaching staff or Ohio State players,
- 14:46you love our post game show. We do those after every game at YouTube
- 14:50dot com slash Bucket Huddle, have Mark and Devin go on immediately after the
- 14:54game and give you sort of their instant reaction. You get to hear the
- 14:58Ohio State press conference with Brian interviews with players. Usually we'll give you some
- 15:01of the the opposing coach as well, and then Tony Gerdam and I will
- 15:05do our bucket weekly instant reaction show immediately after that. It's usually two plus
- 15:11hours of live postgame coverage right A quite a festive evening. Madtown is a
- 15:16fun place to watch a football game. If you've not been up there,
- 15:20might consider making that trip this weekend. If you have the time and the
- 15:24inclination to do so, we will be there. We will have full coverage
- 15:26for you of the Buckeyes and the Badgers Saturday night in Madison. I can't
- 15:31wait. Should be a fun should be a fun game. It could be
- 15:33a fun home stretch of the college football season regular season for the Buckeyes as
- 15:37we are about to turn the corner into November already. Somehow, I don't
- 15:41know how that's happening here. We are already almost in November. Buckeye is
- 15:45still undefeated, Michigan's still undefeated, both teams right at the top of the
- 15:48college football polls, and oh man, are we setting up for a fun
- 15:52home stretch of the college football season. Make sure you join us at Bucky
- 15:54Huddle dot com for all of that. Should be a very active week as
- 15:58we talk Buckeyes and Badger to be a very active week with recruiting talk as
- 16:02the Buckeyes had a huge weekend of visitors for that Penn State game. Plenty
- 16:06of scheme x'es and nose talk there as well on our huddleboard at Buckeye huddle
- 16:10dot com. Hope to see you there. Thank you guys all for joining
- 16:11us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.