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The W-HOLT-LE Truth Hurts! | LAMH Recap with Dustin, Blue and Dominique · Reality with The King

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: First topic of the day, we are getting into the
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: latest episode of Love and Marriage Huntsville. The first scene
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: we are getting into is Trish is back.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 0:13
  Speaker 3: I was happy to see Trish.
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  Speaker 4: Lou and Dominique are trying to, okay, so Destiny.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Destiny. Strong woman.
• 0:25
  Speaker 4: Destiny, Sylvia, and Trish. Had a workout scene.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: Trish revealed that she and Ken broke up and that
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: she left her career of engineering where she has a
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: degree in because Huntsville's a rocket city.
• 0:42
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: Engineers in that town. She is now focused on personal
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: training and it has kept her busy. Starting with you, Dustin,
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: since you're the happiest on the panel, along with me,
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: of course, that Trisha is back. What are your thoughts
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: on the latest updates with Trish? And are you sad
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: that Hurricane are no longer together?
• 1:05
  Speaker 5: I am sad that they're no longer together, selfishly, because
• 1:09
  Speaker 5: if it was not a healthy relationship for either one
• 1:11
  Speaker 5: of them, I don't believe either one of them to
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: be fucked up people. So if it was not a
• 1:15
  Speaker 5: healthy relationship for them, then it's best they're not together.
• 1:18
  Speaker 5: I would have liked for them to have stayed together
• 1:20
  Speaker 5: because that's how I met them. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: But sometimes you got to get on down the street
• 1:24
  Speaker 5: from a motherfucker. And it looked like Trish was happy
• 1:26
  Speaker 5: to be rolling on down the street. She was fresh-faced.
• 1:30
  Speaker 5: She looked naturally pretty. We know that personal training is
• 1:34
  Speaker 5: a passion for her.
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  Speaker 3: This is the most perked up. Well, not like that,
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: but this is the most, you know what I'm saying, like....
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  Speaker 5: Animated in a refreshing way that we've seen Trish since
• 1:47
  Speaker 5: we've met her. She was so happy that she's training.
• 1:50
  Speaker 5: When she was talking about her daily schedule, it felt
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  Speaker 5: like she was in a better place. So I was
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  Speaker 5: happy to see her. I was like, oh, Trish. You
• 1:56
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? It felt like that.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Good, good, good. Dominique Morgan, what are your thoughts? Are
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: you familiar with Trish, Dominique, and Ken and all of that?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not, but I just saw the comment from one
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  Speaker 6: of the raindrops that Trish is a tall tale breathing.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm not deeply familiar. I watched the episode. Is
• 2:18
  Speaker 6: this like when the girls auditioned to be like an
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  Speaker 6: ancillary member of the crew? Is this how that lives here?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what this is called? This is a real
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: factual question. I like that version, Dominique. Let's go with that.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: Let's go with that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, because I'm trying to judge it as like, okay,
• 2:36
  Speaker 6: is this your reintroduction without a husband?
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  Speaker 2: And I kept thinking.
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  Speaker 6: How do you fit into this ecosystem with these other
• 2:44
  Speaker 6: women with a lifestyle that based on the culture of
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  Speaker 6: Huntsville and based on the culture of the South really
• 2:51
  Speaker 6: doesn't leave room for a man, especially the type of
• 2:55
  Speaker 6: men that are in the South. You have a strict schedule.
• 2:59
  Speaker 6: You have to get up very early, right? You can
• 3:00
  Speaker 6: only eat certain things. So many things. I did a
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  Speaker 6: video today talking about like so many men want a boss,
• 3:08
  Speaker 6: but they don't. they don't, most of them are not bosses.
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  Speaker 6: So they don't realize the rigidity that you have to
• 3:14
  Speaker 6: have to be successful and build all these things. And
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  Speaker 6: so I was just like, her best bet is to
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  Speaker 6: try to train the girls to try to make sure
• 3:23
  Speaker 6: that she can, you know, have time because I don't
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  Speaker 6: know how she fits in otherwise. I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: she's a reader. It don't give that she reads like that.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know what that is. So maybe she
• 3:32
  Speaker 6: can be like, a nutrition consultant or maybe she can
• 3:36
  Speaker 6: come out, you know what I'm saying? Like something, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: you know, or something like that. But, but yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of like, okay, this is cute.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Dominique, for your services.
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  Speaker 2: Um, blue to lose, but what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Trisha's back. She, are you shocked at Karen? Can't aren't together.
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  Speaker 2: So I like what Dominique said about maybe she should
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: work in craft services. That's what I heard Dominique say.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: I did not say craft. I meant like, no.
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  Speaker 6: I meant like community support around fitness and things.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Bring the plates. And yeah. So sure. She's been outside.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: Now she's admitting she's outside. She's telling us she's outside.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I... Is she a tax write-off? Like, how
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: does this work, Carlos? I have questions about production.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: What?
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about tonight. I just have questions. I
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: want to make sure our good sense is caught up. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so she said, yeah, me and that man
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: not together again. Dustin likes wholesome shit, but she already
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: got a new nigga in Tallahassee somewhere. She fine. She
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: don't give a good goddamn, and she never did. I mean,
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: why are we pretending that water is not wet? She
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: been outside. Now she's finally admitting there's a doormat, but okay. Yay.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that. She's a craft. That's a word. That's
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  Speaker 2: a great word. There's other words, but yeah. Yay.
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  Speaker 3: Moving on. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: This reunion is going to be crazy.
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  Speaker 2: For me. They're going to jump you at the reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me and Destiny, Claudia, and Dominique, and I'm right
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  Speaker 2: down the street.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't take it. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be there. We'll be there.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm going to help you all fight, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to be mad at y'all afterwards for five minutes
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  Speaker 5: because I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Even want to do this. You know what I'm saying? Now,
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  Speaker 3: damn it, I would help, but I didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: have to do this shit.
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  Speaker 2: That's very Aries of you.
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  Speaker 1: So the conversation then came with Sylvia, who told Destiny
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  Speaker 1: and Trish, that she invited Nell and Arianne over to
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: her house and that they had a conversation. And Sylvia
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  Speaker 1: told Destiny, like, look, Arianne thinks you and Martel have
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: something going on. Like, she's convinced y'all have something, you know,
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: more than a friendship. Destiny says that Arianne is a
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  Speaker 1: headhunter for husbands and that when it comes to mistresses,
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  Speaker 1: they're supposed to stay a mystery. She also said that
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  Speaker 1: Arianne needs to understand that when Martel sees Destiny, his
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: eyes light.
• 6:24
  Speaker 4: Up when she walks in the room and is genuine love.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: She also said that she stimulates Martel's mind, and that's
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  Speaker 1: why Arianne is mad. Dominique, starting with you, what are
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: your thoughts about that comment in terms of how Destiny
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  Speaker 1: described her friendship with Martel? and also described Arianne as
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  Speaker 1: a headhunter for husbands.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: Now, I listened to my brother when he was like,
• 6:52
  Speaker 6: Destiny got next. And so I paid good attention to
• 6:56
  Speaker 6: the interview you did with Destiny Carlos. I sat in
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  Speaker 6: it because I was like, okay, let me hear her
• 7:00
  Speaker 6: talk more. Let me get into a little bit more
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  Speaker 6: to be engaged so I'm ready. That segment put a
• 7:05
  Speaker 6: bad taste in my mouth with her because... I don't
• 7:09
  Speaker 6: think she really cares about Martell like that. So it
• 7:13
  Speaker 6: felt like she gave. How can I let me let
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  Speaker 6: me make sure because y'all talk. I know she's a
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  Speaker 6: schemer and I know she has that in her back pocket,
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  Speaker 6: but it feels like she's letting that part of her
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  Speaker 6: spirit come forward to make somebody feel a certain way
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  Speaker 6: about a nigga that everybody has had.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: So, like, you're giving all that migage over Martel's sister.
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  Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: It's like, my niece.
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  Speaker 6: Was just online talking about Martel had been in the DMs.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: Like, it didn't make sense for her to give herself
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  Speaker 6: that kind of aura of, I really want him. And furthermore,
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  Speaker 6: you kind of, if you feel about Arianne the way
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  Speaker 6: you feel about Arianne, it feels like you're stepping down
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  Speaker 6: to come at her. You know what I'm saying? Like,
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  Speaker 6: for me, honestly, I feel like Arianne is ready to retire.
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  Speaker 6: This is the way people go 30 years passing out
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  Speaker 6: mail at the post office to try to get that thing.
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  Speaker 6: This is what she did to get Martel. And I'm
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  Speaker 6: just like, let that girl have that little piece of
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  Speaker 6: hell that she's been wanting for 10, 15 years. And Destiny,
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  Speaker 6: you focus on other things. I want you to be
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  Speaker 6: able to have friendships with women. I want you to
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  Speaker 6: not be so male-centered, sister. Because she's so beautiful and
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  Speaker 6: I think that she could really be bigger in this ecosystem.
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  Speaker 6: But if everything is about Martel and everything's about, oh,
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  Speaker 6: he wants me, my eyes light up. His eyes light
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  Speaker 6: up when he see a cheeseburger. He'll hunch anything. And Carlos,
• 8:54
  Speaker 6: did you tell her that her wigs was too good
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  Speaker 6: and you switched up her wigs in the middle of
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  Speaker 6: the season?
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  Speaker 4: That's the fun of doing anything. We're talking about Arianne?
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. Because this vibe in this upcoming scene, I
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: was like... It was cute, right? It was all right.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, the girls do nasty hair in Birmingham.
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  Speaker 6: I was just like, Carlos, are y'all trying to make
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  Speaker 6: us feel bad for her by presenting her in these
• 9:22
  Speaker 6: Charlotte Roos, you know, the sets, you know, and these pieces.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: But I will digress for now.
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: To answer your question, I have nothing to do with wardrobe, glam.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: The ladies have full agency to look how they look.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: But what we will get into sometime this season, other
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  Speaker 1: people may have, allegedly, may have helped out.
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  Speaker 4: But that is a storyline we'll get into.
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  Speaker 3: Sylvia. You talking about Sylvia?
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  Speaker 4: Dustin.
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  Speaker 3: You talking about Sylvia?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about nobody, Dustin. Dustin, what are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: on Destiny's commentary?
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  Speaker 4: Because like Dominique said, a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: They were 50-50 with the mind stimulation commentary. You said
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Destiny has next. Was this Destiny letting the girls know
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I am that bitch so much so that I can
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  Speaker 1: show you how to make a man weak in the
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  Speaker 1: knees by purely existing?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to have to ride with my
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  Speaker 5: sister Dominique on this one. There was a bit of
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  Speaker 5: regression that took place. by Destiny even being willing to
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  Speaker 5: get in the ring, so to speak, with Arianne. Destiny
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  Speaker 5: was in a great position to make a clean break
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  Speaker 5: from this because Arianne had broken the one rule that
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: Black people across the globe know not to do, right?
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  Speaker 3: She disrespected Destiny's child. Yeah.
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: Okay, so once you do that, you know there's bad
• 10:57
  Speaker 5: things coming. Second of all, Destiny has not been, although
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: we know her and Martel ain't fucking, at least we
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: all assume that they've never had a sexual relationship of
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: any sort. Destiny needs to be a little bit more
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  Speaker 5: clear about that because the attachment she has to the
• 11:13
  Speaker 5: relationship and friendship she has with Martel is very easily
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  Speaker 5: misinterpreted by anybody looking on because the passion and the
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: intensity behind her reactions to things and behind her approach
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  Speaker 5: to some of the conversations can make, it can allude
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: to that or make you feel as if there was
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: something more than a platonic friendship. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: if it was me, I would really be trying to
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: let people know I was not in no kind of
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: dealings with Martel. I would be, you know, like, you
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to get me to stop talking about that.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all think y'all was tired of Dr. Wendy and her
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: four degrees and shit.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all would be like, I ain't fucking with him. I
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: ain't fucking with him.
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  Speaker 2: I make better decisions.
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  Speaker 3: That would be my entire MO.
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  Speaker 5: And so, Since Destiny's not doing that, she's leaving room
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: for people to misinterpret her actions in that way. Hopefully
• 12:04
  Speaker 5: as we move forward, it gets clear. I will give
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: her credit though, because I love the way that she
• 12:10
  Speaker 5: told Martel in the scene with her and Arianne and
• 12:14
  Speaker 5: Martel when Destiny told him like, I'm fine releasing you.
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: I wish you well. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 5: And since I'm not going to fuck with her, I
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: know that means that I can't fuck with you and
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: I'm fine releasing you.
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  Speaker 3: Stay on that message. Stay on that and don't waver.
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  Speaker 3: Stay there. Don't even get.
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  Speaker 5: Into the details because she was doing fine. And when
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: she got up and walked away from the table and
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: took that last dig that she didn't have to take
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: about the debit card swipe.
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  Speaker 3: It's shit like that. Now, I do also want to
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  Speaker 3: be clear.
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  Speaker 5: These are just my personal reflections on how I would
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: argue because I would have been way more vulgar and
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: cutthroat and dirty.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just reflecting on how I feel about how she argues.
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  Speaker 5: She's entitled to do whatever she want to do in
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  Speaker 5: that case. Express herself in whatever way makes her feel,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, whatever way feels sufficient to her. I just
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: would have went lower and done it faster and not
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  Speaker 5: fucked up.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That's all.
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  Speaker 2: Blue? Yeah, I disagree with my co-host on this one,
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  Speaker 2: big time. As a fellow Taurus, shout out to Destiny.
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  Speaker 2: Big disagree for several reasons. Number one- When you bring
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  Speaker 2: up my child, she said, I'm going to hell. And
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: she kept her word. I don't know why anybody should
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: be surprised that water is wet, right? The minute you
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: bring up my child, I would have said 10 times worse.
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  Speaker 2: 10 times worse. Number two, as someone who has had
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  Speaker 2: a male best friend of 30 years, I think what
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  Speaker 2: Destiny just told us is all the shit that Martel's
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: been telling her. I don't think Destiny was being male-centered.
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  Speaker 2: I think she was telling us how Martel has been
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: talking about this woman and why she's blown that he's
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: suddenly acting brand new on behalf of the woman that
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: he told her was... inconsequential to a certain degree despite
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: being a mother to his child. And let's be clear,
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: we think being a mother to a child is something
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  Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Martel don't move like that. His
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: integrity don't move like that. And this is what happens
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  Speaker 2: with these niggas. Can we say that? Well, I just did.
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  Speaker 2: What they do is when you're the best friend of
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: a nigga who's a mess to the streets but keeps
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  Speaker 2: it cute with you, and she even mentioned about this
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: in the last episode where she said, I'm seeing a
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: side of you that I don't get. Whatever this is,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I don't get this, right? He has been showing up
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  Speaker 2: as his best self for her for quite a while
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  Speaker 2: while talking shit about Arianne, stooping on a charrette, and
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  Speaker 2: anybody else in the area who will take him, yes?
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: To Dominique's point, he will hunch on a McDonald's cheeseburger. So,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: when I know that I get the real you that's
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: there for me when my dad is going through something
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: and fighting for his life, rest in peace, he's now
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: since passed away. Our parents have known each other for years.
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  Speaker 2: They used to date. You and I have known each
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  Speaker 2: other since high school. You've seen me go through a divorce.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: And you told me this dizzy bitch was a peasant, right?
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  Speaker 2: So I've gone through all these hoops of hearing you
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: talk crazy to her. Well, I've been keeping it cute.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: And when she comes crazy to me, I keep it
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  Speaker 2: cute one episode. I keep it cute two episodes. I
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: keep it cute three episodes. I keep it cute four episodes.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Then I run out of grace, hoe, because you mentioned
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: my fucking kid. And I told you I'm going to hell.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I told you I'm going to hell. But what's that hell, though?
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: What's that hell? No, it's hell adjacent. We got some
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: more levels left. So my thing is, when a Taurus
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: has run out, everybody run. Okay. And it took a
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: long time to get here. I'm not going to judge
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  Speaker 2: somebody who took a long time to finally... That's not
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  Speaker 2: a regression. That's a choice. Not everybody got to die.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: The only point I want to make is.
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  Speaker 5: I just take issue with the piece about Martel showing
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: up as his best self to Destiny in their relationship.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really think that's possible because at the same
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: time as he was quote unquote being there for her
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: when something bad happened or whatever to sum all that up.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: He was still doing, talking shit about, you can't be
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: treating all these other women bad, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: in your life, and then me just expect that that's
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: the real you.
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  Speaker 3: She's learning that in real time.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: She's learning that in real time.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: So in that case, that's your fault. You know what
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: The best self is based on her never loving him.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: The best self is based on I've never asked you
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: to care about me in a romantic way.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Or cover me as a partner.
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: I still want to say I respect the Taurus call in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to stick with this.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: I'm going to marinate on it. But as a bitch
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: that does go to hell... She did not.
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  Speaker 2: You read her through the.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: The mail sender still sticks to me because you read
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: her through the lines of, I could have this nigga,
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: anybody can have that nigga.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I got some girls right now.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: With 10-inch dicks that could have Martel if I stick
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: the right bitch on them.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Please understand that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Listen, Martel wants someone to make him feel like he's
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: the best man to ever walk on this planet. I
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: got some bad girls down the block. I send them
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: down there to the people's place. But I'm saying you
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: should have read her based on reading her because she's
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: got a list of things to read that have nothing
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: to do with Martell if she was going to gag her.
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: And I wish she would have said Martell's told me
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: when he see me, he his eyes light up because
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: the way she shared it. It felt like they were
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: reflections she was sitting in. So I'm sitting with what
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: you're saying, Blue, and I'm like, okay, let me step back.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: But if you're going to open up the clip, sister,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: give it, oh, sister, your man said... When I walk
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: in the room, he loses his breath. It's a Destiny's
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Child sad.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Glory.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Dominique, I have a question real quick for that, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to let Dustin go. Have you ever, in
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: real time, as you're starting to get pissed off, realizing
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: that it's just my turn and this is who he
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: really was? We've all done this, where we thought, you
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: might be a hoe with everybody else, but you're not
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: a hoe with me. You might be a liar with
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: everybody else, you're not with me. I think this episode
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: was beautifully produced. Shout out to you, Carlos, and your team.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Where we're literally watching her go straight to parakeeting him,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to your point. Like, okay, well, how am I whatever
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: when she's this, this, and this? And then as the
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: episode progresses, we see her realize, wait, I'm mad at
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: this bitch. He's the problem. And that's why by the end,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: she's released him. We're literally watching it dawn on her.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I can't throw him under the bus because I'm speaking
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: as the hurt person who's like, how are you mad
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: at me? What do you mean, fuck 50? I just
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: woke up. Martel, you told me she was a dizzy bitch.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Now you're letting her come at me crazy. That was
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the first scene, right? Then we're seeing middle scenes where
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: she's like, now hold on, I think Martel might be
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the problem. And by the end, she's like, go with
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: your girl. Godspeed. I wish y'all the best. I'm out.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It's one of those things of, there's a mourning that
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: happens while you're mad. Can we all admit that you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: can mourn while being mad? You can be cussing and
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: fussing while still mourning the relationship. And the progression, I've
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: seen worse. I'm not going to pretend like the progression
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: was a hot mess. I've had that progression of, I'm
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: not going to throw him under the bus. I'm going
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: to throw her under the bus because I don't know
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: this hoe. I'm going to have his back, even though
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: he told me all this shit. So now hold on, nigga.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Why'd you put me in this position? So she can
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: have you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: This a very unique, specific circumstance though, because there's been
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: so many events, right?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Where she could have had that, um, What's the word
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm looking for?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Epiphany. Epiphany.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Where she could have had that epiphany, right? I don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: want to go down the list because there's a litany
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: of events that we could speak of, right?
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: That's true. But so it's like, you just now getting it?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Tours is our long suffering. Dominique will tell you, it
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: takes us forever to get it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, forever, ever. You got to add a.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Couple of ever times.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Because the Pisces in me want to look at, like,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: I know this reality TV, but I'm notorious for sending
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: a voice note on Instagram and be like, hey, sister.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I'm notorious.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And they're notorious for responding.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Hey, Dustin. So, before we.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Dustin catch a strike. He wasn't even talking.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: That's because a lot of DMs. That's the thing. Okay.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I love this conversation so much.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: This is good. This is good.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And Raindrops, we will circle back to the ending scene between.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Martel, Ariana, Destiny.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, my bad for speaking to you. That scene was... Dominique,
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: I want to start with you. So we had Martel,
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: Chris Fletcher... And new cast member, Lynn, they went out fishing.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And in this scene, these are men talking about things
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: they have in common. And one thing that came out
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of this scene was the fact that Chris is asking Lynn.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Like, why did you and your wife divorce? Was it cheating?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Lynn admitted that he cheated on his wife that he
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: was with for 20 years. And that's why they divorced.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Chris made a joke. Pretty much, you'll fit right in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: with this group. So in this scene was the realization
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that Chris Fletcher, Martel Holt, and Lynn are three men
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that cheated.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: On their wives. Okay.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Lynn did say that therapy helped him get through all
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of this and how he couldn't shower.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: A lot of things happened post-divorce.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Martel admitted that he was the main reason for his divorce,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: which surprised Chris.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Dominique Morgan, what were your.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on these three men having a real conversation about
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the one thing they have in common?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Words matter. Martel, the main reason, the reason. The reason.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Main reason is crazy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: Main reason, main ingredient is the pot roast, and then
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: you got potatoes and all that other stuff. You're the
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: whole meal, bookie butt. You play the game. Two, dapping
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: somebody up on the strength of y'all all the trifling
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: cheaters blew me. I was hoping that the spirit of
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: the Lord was going to come in the power of
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: a wind, honey, and knock them all off that damn pier. Ooh,
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I just, I said, God, move, please. Ooh, it upset
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: me so fiercely. I... I have been divorced since 2018.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: I was married to a Leo, born on August 1st.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait. You used to be married? Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I've been divorced since 2018. I went through a terrible marriage.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: My husband got someone pregnant in our marriage. And this
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: was two years before my transition started. I started my
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: transition in March of 2020. So our divorce was finalized
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: February of 2018. So these type of things activate me
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: because it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Is a level of.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Harm that happens that, yes, I do think people have
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the potential to change. I got to believe in the
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: possibility of human beings to just exist.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: You couldn't shower because you probably had a wife that
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: reminded you to shower. Like, y'all are not talking about
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: your trauma is based on the fact that you lost
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: these women who mostly held you up. And you're not
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: naming how. You never are the same after you get,
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: you're never the same. 20 years with somebody and he's
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: standing there with his cap on, lined up, laughing. Like
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: if I was his wife, I would be driving to
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: wherever he was on Saturday and I would need a
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: piece again. Square up with me because you're, it never
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: goes away. It never goes away. If you ever caught them,
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: if you ever looked through the phone, all those things.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: And I think that I appreciate black men who are
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: holding space to talk about their difficulties. So let me
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: hold that. Because if you don't, if you don't give
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: some acknowledgement, these Negroes want to digress and be like, well,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: this is why we don't say anything.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But where's the deeper work? Where's the deeper work?
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: For Martel, what's more concerning is And what leans into
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: my belief of him being a narcissist is you aren't even,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: you're not even shook up by watching the man that
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: you've been on TV for all of these years. I
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: was watching a clip earlier and this had to be
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: seasons ago because his ex-wife had like the blonde bob
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: cut and he was in the bedroom and he wouldn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: leave and he was doing all of these narcissistic things.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: And I'm just like, you're doing the same things to
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: Arian right now. You have not changed. And so I,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: and with Chris.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: I think he had the opportunity to talk about the
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: true work of what it took for him to maintain
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: his relationship. And I wish he would have spoken of
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: the work he still has to do. Because I think
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: that specifically when men cheat, they think, oh, you didn't
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: leave me. You took me back. I've went to some
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: therapy sessions, what have you, and it ends. I don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: know anyone who has had infidelity in their relationship, their marriage,
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: that has stayed together. that does not need to be
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: prepared five years from now, maybe on a random day,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: that she gets in the car, that she might bring
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: that up, and you need to hold that because you
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: was holding them cheeks when you was cheating. So I
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: just feel like the covering that a husband is supposed
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: to have, especially, again, in the Southeast, traditional values, they're
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: just very derelict, and they was too jovial for me.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Nary a Negro cried a tear. And where was the fish?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: What was they doing? Was it just standing there? Like,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: what is it? Um, you know what I'm saying? Like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like anything constructive came out of this.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: And, um, I would love to hear the women have
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: this type of conversation, but I don't think any of
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: them are going to be honest because all of them
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: kind of swallow it. But I would love to see
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: this juxtaposed with the ladies unpack.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Like, I would love to see the opposite.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And, uh, I'm going to tap you in next. Um,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: What I will say is, first of all, thank you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: for sharing your story. I had no idea, my love,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that you experienced that. My heart goes out to you.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: What you said about when a man cheats on you,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: especially has a baby on you, it never goes away.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So what's interesting is this season on Love and Marriage Huntsville,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Chris did not have a baby on Nell, right? So
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that was their experience. But, Chris has
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: been open and Nell has too, that Chris did cheat
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on his wife Nell and Nell decided to take him back.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Something happens this season where Chris does something and Nell
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: starts to behave in a way that where you felt like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: what really is the issue?
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Because it can't just be this.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And I can't wait to talk about this at the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: reunion because it's everything Dominique just said.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Something happened with Chris.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And Nell where I saw what Nell went through 20
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: years ago flash right before her eyes.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: And I'll leave it at that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: But go ahead, Blue.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: First of all, I agree with everything Dominique said. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: was actually deeply disgusted by this scene. I was really disgusted.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: All jokes aside, I think most of the episode was
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: an interesting kiki. Arianne was working on her swoops. She's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: getting better. Nice, cute little Bob. I was happy for her.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And then I got to this scene and it felt
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: like the record skipped because let's do word of the day, guys,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: because I took six years of Latin. The word that
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I want you guys to Google today, and it's the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: word that Dominique was circling around, is gravitas. Gravitas. Gravitas,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: by definition, means a high seriousness and dignity about something
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that is important. The lack of gravitas in that conversation
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: with these old, broad-backed black men who are too long
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: in the tooth not to know better. Yes? I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: so disgusted that this was an opportunity for young black
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: men to see what it's like to dishonor your covenant
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and your partner and come on the other side, sincerely
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: learning from your mistakes. And instead, all I saw was
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: three hyenas with salt and pepper beards. I was disgusted, okay?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Because there could have been such a beautiful conversation about
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: men holding each other accountable. Men are always saying, women
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: don't give us credit, and my boys, X, Y, and Z.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: You could have shut us all up. This was your
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: opportunity to show us seeing black men holding each other
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: accountable rather than us nagging you, right? However, all you
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: did was show us why you need supervision. I couldn't bathe.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I think it might have been my fault. What are
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you doing? Are you serious right now? You sound like
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a dummy. And I was just stunned because from a distance,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: from a distance, you see three beautiful black men fishing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I like this. I should go
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to the South and find me a husband. By the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: end of the scene, I was like, no, I'm going
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to stay in L.A. I'm going to stay in LA because,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and here's the thing too, imagine being the wife. Cause
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: you're talking about, it never goes away. Honey, I'm the baby.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I'm the evidence. I'm a love child. We're talking about
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: this on this channel all the time. My daddy was
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the ancient so-and-so who was having outside babies. And that's
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: how I happened. And as someone who's an outside baby
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and saw the damage it did to my mom and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to the wife, there's a certain level of remorse that
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: my daddy had in his eyes. Cause he realized how
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: much I look like him. So I didn't have to
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: take a test. Baby, it's clear to your face. If
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you're whatever one of my dad looks like, it's just
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: me with a fade. So like when I came out,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: he was like, ah, man, I really fucked up. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you could tell that there was a shift in him.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: There's been no shift. And the thing that makes me
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: nervous is, and why I don't think Nell or any
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: of the women who might still be triggered later in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the season are wrong, studies have shown repeatedly that a
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: man who cannot admit his mistakes fully and sit in
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that and improve is almost guaranteed to repeat it. So
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: we're not talking about the past. We're talking about the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: promise for the future. Can we also talk.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: About, especially if there's a child involved, the expectation for
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: any woman who's involved to be kind to the child
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: because the child didn't do anything.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Disagree with it, but the labor it took. My after
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: we divorced, I was able to have some space. And
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: I this is in my book. It's in the book
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: because I kind of I try to keep it cute.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: When I was just in New York, my best friend
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: was having lunch with somebody who brought up.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Bitch, when I tell this story. Oh,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: my God. Like, I can't believe Dominique. She's so awesome. And,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you know, all she went through with her drug addiction.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just so proud of her.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: Andrew texted me, I'm at Brandon Blackwood's party.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: He was like, bitch, you did cocaine?
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: I said, I would scream like Homer Simpson if somebody
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: pulled out some drugs. What are you talking about? Years ago,
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: my ex-husband told the woman he had a baby with
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: that the reason we were struggling was because of that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: I'm not bullshitting you, right? I got the text. And
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: so I'm in New York and it's like two weeks ago.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: And the next day I was really messed up because
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: I was just like, All of this time, something you
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: said about me while you were creeping and sneaking, this
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: has lived somewhere and you realize the tendrils of it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: My ex-husband, his daughter passed away.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: I anonymously paid for the funeral because they was out
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: there selling fish plates. And I remember the processing of...
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: What does it mean to love this man and then, like,
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: you want to love the child that comes from this?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: It's very, very complicated. And my journey was pre- and post-transition.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: What the world expected of me as a man when
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: I was hurt and disrespected was not what they expected
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: of me as a trans woman with a husband. I
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: still talk to my stepson to this day. He just
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: graduated from high school. The expectations are different. So when
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: I think of the women on this show and the...
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: The delicacy that you're supposed to engage in when it
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: comes to being hurt.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Arianne has, they have the child.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: I just know that there's expectations for them to be
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: more open-hearted than they should have to simply because these
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: men chose to have children. Or you're in a small
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: town and everyone knows you. I remember telling my ex-husband,
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: don't cheat down the street. These people know me. So
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: even if Chris didn't have a child, I bet now
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: knows where that lady is at. Oh yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: And so that, and so that alone, again, if you
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: choose to stay, you should do the work that you
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: can do to make sure that every day of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: rest of your marriage is not a reminder. But what
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: will happen is the wind will, the wind will literally,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: literally blow and it'll come back. And I don't think
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: any of those men demonstrate the capacity to, to be
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: responsible for their choices after they've decided they've done enough.
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: Sorry to overspeak, but I know people are watching, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: it's a call to action that happens based on what
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: he did with his loins. And even, I think, divorced,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: you're still connected in some way, and that is a
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: very unfair expectation to put on a woman.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: No, and listen, I'm going to get to you next, Dustin.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm glad you brought that up.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: You too, Blue, obviously, because, listen.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: The beauty of this Monday Night Live plus Love and
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsville is the fact that it is an opportunity
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about things globally that is impacting people from
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: all shapes, sizes, states, worldwide, international. We have a large
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: reach of Monday Night Live. So no, I'm happy you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: brought that up because, you know, the scene with the guys,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: like y'all said, there were tons of people who felt
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: strongly about it negatively. There were people who felt about
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: it positively, but to me, it's a conversation that needs
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to be had, which is why I'm glad you hear that. Dustin,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on the guys' fishing scene?
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, what a missed opportunity. Them niggas can't fish. You
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? Because if you're a real player,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: if you're a real OG, go on and put the
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: bait on the motherfucking hook. Take advantage of that scene
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: and stand up there and say, you know what, man?
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I'm really grateful to have some sort of community, I guess,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: with you guys, but I'm not comfortable fishing You know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: even talking about the breaking down of my family, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: feel bad about that shit every day of my life.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: It was the worst decision I ever made.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: And if I could go back, I would do things differently, man.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: I'm just trying to work out, be the best guy
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: that I can be now. And I'm trying to let
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: my behavior be changed and communicate to my ex and
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: my kids that I care, man. Because I feel terrible
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: about the way that I made those mistakes. That's what
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: a motherfucking player would have did. Because then everybody that's
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: watching is now hooked in on the hook.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: But you would rather, it's just amazing to me when
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: a person's ego and pride usurps their.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Good sense in that way. Because if you really.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Was a player and if your concern was really making
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: people feel good, that's exactly what you would have done
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: in that scene and reap the benefits thereafter. And all
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: in one swoop, you would have served that purpose to yourself.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: You also would have honored your ex.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: You would have honored your children.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: You would have shown accountability, shown remorse, first of all,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: because accountability and remorse are two very different things, right?
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: You would have shown remorse, taken accountability, and created a
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: fresh start for yourself. What them niggas do? Sit up
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: there and do all that for the whole damn scene
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: instead of utilizing it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I don't blame Lee. What's his name, Carlos? Lance.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Lance.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Forgive me, Lynn. No disrespect. I don't blame Lynn. You knew, nigga.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: But Lynn, I don't blame Lynn because Lynn is new
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: to this. And honestly, out of the three gentlemen in
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: that scene, Lynn showed the most savvy, I guess, of
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: everybody in that scene, because he did even muster up
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: some language to reflect a little bit of accountability.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: We didn't see that from Martel. We didn't really see
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: that from Chris Fletcher. Um, but Chris Fletcher is, is,
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: is here to provide comic relief and kind of move
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: the story alone. So I didn't have a high expectation
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: of him to use the moment in that way. But Martel, um,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: I really didn't have an expectation for him to do
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: it either. Cause nothing that he's done would demonstrate that
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: kind of foresight or that kind of, you know, um,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: just awareness really.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: So I think it was a missed opportunity. Put the
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: bait on the hook, nigga. The camera is on.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: You could have had everybody in America, everybody at some
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: parts of Canada, uh, biting.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: The hook, you know what I'm saying? And you didn't
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: do that. So shame on you. I have a quick question.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And Dustin, I love to hear a man talk about
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: what could have been said instead because I think a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: lot of these men when they're in this predicament pretend
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: that it's like some Scooby-Doo mystery about how to fix
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: it when it's really just like three cohesive sentences. Question, Carlos,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: because this hints at something Dominique mentioned about how And
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I've wondered this a couple of times myself. When you
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: watch these reality shows and you see yourself back, you
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: don't feel stupid. Do you think the women on the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: show quietly feel a way watching how cavalier their men
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: are talking about dishonoring them? Because I can't imagine seeing
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: my dude on the dock of the bay with Martel
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: in them and we not having a rough night after
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that episode airs.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Um, okay.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you should be on the couch.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I will say this, and I'm curious to get Dustin's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: thoughts because he's a day one viewer.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Do I think the women were surprised? No.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: No, feel away.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, feel away, feel away. I got to be honest
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: with you. I got to be honest with you.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Based on me being a part of this show for
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: 10 years, right?
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: It's close to 10 years. I strongly believe these women
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: know their husbands.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And what I have learned through producing the show, hosting
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the reunions is as much as you may be able
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: to show some light in various ways, right? I think
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: the reason why this show is big is because for one,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it's so real that you know that this is something
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that affects me because of my own experience.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: And it's hard for me to watch the navigation through this.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I think when it comes to these women, they know
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: their husbands, and they have accepted who their husbands are.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: Yuck!
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Do they.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Dustin, you're telling me wrong. Do these women want some change?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yes!
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: This whole season, we're seeing that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: But I also think what we can't negate is the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: coastal aspect of.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: This show, too. I think it being.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: southern, I think, and where they live, I definitely think
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it's just the way of life for these couples. And
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I do find it very interesting. It's why I love
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: this show. It's why I love producing it. And this
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: is the reason why, look, and I will say this,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: is the reason why I choose to honor my cast
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: because they have enough grit and the stomach to give
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: y'all their real lives, knowing that they're.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Going to get judged.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: So look, I will say, I don't think Martel's ex,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think Lynn's, I just meant Lynn, so I'm
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: not going to say Lynn. I don't think Nell, I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: don't think they saw that scene and had an attitude.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I think they saw that scene and was like, sort
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: of like, today is Wednesday.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I think that.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: Well, number one, people all over the world and more
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: people are in relationships like these. than our in what
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: we would deem a healthy relationship, right? We all done
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: been there. You know, this is just real life shit.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: I just think that when it comes to situations where
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: infidelity is concerned or a mistake that's as, you know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: bold and substantial as that, you know what I'm saying?
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: You have to kind of move differently and kind of
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: forget the cultural norms.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is the South.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, these traditional relationships, takes, I don't want to call
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: them values, but these traditional takes are what is more common,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: but that shit can get corrected too. And right is
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: right and wrong is wrong.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: But if they, I agree with you, Chris, do the work.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: But what I have learned too is this, and this
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: is some real shit, and this may not be proper
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: what I'm about to say, but it's reality. I have
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: learned through my own family, through my own friendships, and
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: through my cast you cannot tell anybody what to do
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: in their marriage.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You can leave them to the water. And it's up
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: to them to drink, right?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: And that's why I will say this show has made
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: me never want to get married.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, Carlos, this show might be
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: back in my love life. Respectfully, I hate it here. Oh,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: No, the thing is this.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: When I say to you, there is people in my
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: personal life that I want better for my girls.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Stand up!
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: And I, when I say to you, I have this rule.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I won't say anything unless you ask me. Because it's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: not my place. It is not my place to tell
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: anyone what to do in their marriage. And anybody who
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: has watched me host the reunions, they will tell you,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I have definitely said.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Well, dot, dot, dot.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And my hands are here because at the end of
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the day, I can only say based on my experience
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: watching other women and men go through things, what I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: think is best and some is common sense. But I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: also have understood that it is.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: What it is to them.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I agree with you, Carlos, when it comes to respecting
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: boundaries with your friends and loved ones, especially when it
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: comes to people's personal relationships. I agree 100%. I respect boundaries.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: I'm available to whoop your nigga ass if he whoop yours.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Other than that, you know what I'm saying? I'm over
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: here with it. And I'll talk to you about what
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: you share with me. But even then, I'm totally respecting
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: your choices, your decisions, all that. It's a way to move.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I also agree with Dominique and Blue that Nell and
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: people who are affected by Martell and Lynn's behavior didn't
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: feel good. After they saw that, I do think that
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: they are. I think that the men in that scene
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: were comfortable even having that sort of approach to the
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: conversation because that's the same conversation they're having with their
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: partners and ex-partners about it. They already know how they
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: cut further to your point. So that's why they felt
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: free enough to do it on scene and on camera.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: And I also think it probably did sting a little
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: bit seeing them speak casually about something that was so
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: emotionally traumatic for their partners.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Do y'all know a boxer?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Personally?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a person who boxes like that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: The comparison I want to offer, and this is the
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: scientist of the people part of my brain, is Carlos,
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: I want to tell you, they're just trained boxers. They're
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: used to having their spirits beat like a boxer is
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: used to being punched in the face.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It will bother you. You will feel some thing. You
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: build up a callousness to it, which is even more concerning.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: And I 100% agree with what you said, Carlos, about
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: respecting the boundaries. Because when I was in the thick
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: of it, baby, you couldn't tell me nothing. Like, you
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: could not tell me anything. I wasn't having friends come around.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: I didn't want your feedback. I reached a point where
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: I wasn't telling them how bad things had gotten. And
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: so I also feel like what I love about this
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: show is that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It keeps.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: I hope it keeps the women in a world where
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: they know that they have people who care about what's
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: happening to them.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Because the scariest.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Thing when you're in those sort of situations, I do
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: believe in being stupid quietly as much as you can.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: But what becomes very scary is that you know you being,
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: you know don't nobody want to hear for the 15th
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: time he did you wrong. You know there ain't nobody going,
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: you know. And so you just, you close in on it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: And so I'm hopeful that's what the show does. When
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: I watch, I'm like, I'm bearing, what is your other,
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: what's the other show, Carlos?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Bale Collective.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Bale Collective.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: Ooh, that's my show, baby. But it felt the same way.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: It's the chocolate brother who he gives- Ray and Letitia.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: He used to run the Blade team.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: And when I watch that, when I watch that, it's
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: the same thing where it's like, yo, I'm bearing witness
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: because I know it's very hard to come up out
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: of that. And this idea, and I talk about this
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: a lot, as someone who was not raised as a
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: young Black girl, a young Black woman- I was not
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: told to put up with everything because you got a
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: man and he's not the worst that it could possibly be.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going to raise that way. People didn't start saying
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: that to me until I turned 40.
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: And so I also hold grace for, and for the
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: sisters who are like, you dumb, you stupid, this, that,
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: and the third, cool. And to be in your 50s,
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: to be a black woman, to have given 20 years
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: to something, it's like staying at a job that don't
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: really care about you. And I think they love these men.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: And I just hope this check gives them the ability
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: to have a platform. I hope all the girls are
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: giving them a stormy set to where if they.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Need to put some money in the back pocket of
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the job.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I hope all the girls got a little, you know
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, a little money in the piggy bank,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: but it is not that easy.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: So if you are watching this right now, just know
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: like people are going to judge you, but you would
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: rather people, the only time you won't be.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Judged is if you're dead.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: And with relationships like that, the only time you're going
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: to come out of it and people won't have an
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: opinion that you hear is if you're in the casket,
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: which is highly possible with those type of abuse.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Because these are forms of abuse. Yeah, I just want
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: to add one thing.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: All right, one last thing. I got to move on
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: to the next.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Very quickly. There was a comment that really bothered me
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: that said no marriage is perfect. Can y'all stop doing that?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Basic dignity respect is nowhere near perfection. You talk about
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: nobody is perfect. We're asking you all to do the basics.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Can we stop acting like because you are not Jesus
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Cristo levitating on the third Wednesday that you can't put
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: in no goddamn effort? I get enraged when nobody is
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: perfect is the call to action instead of you saying, hey,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: can we get basic fucking dignity and respect? We're not even,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: we're nowhere near perfect, baby girl. Martell is nowhere near perfect.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Stop telling me nobody is perfect. He's not even in
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the vicinity or the neighborhood of perfect. Can you just
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: get the basics of being a decent human down? Can
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: we do that first?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Also, what the fuck are we supposed to do with that?
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: We having a full, nuanced, layered conversation about the complexities
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: of infidelity, the heartbreak, all.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: These real emotions. The nuances of betrayal.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: And your ass going to tell us no marriage is perfect.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: What the fuck are we even supposed to do with that?
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: And that's exactly why I don't be in the comments
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: because shit like that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: No, they put it on the screen, Dustin. They put
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it on the screen in front of.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: All of us.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: I had no choice.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: That was the production team. I love y'all, but y'all
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: put that right on the screen. Look, for good measure.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Me and Dustin don't read.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: The comments for this.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, boo.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Me and Dustin like to fight, Carlos.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Me and Blue ain't holding up, goddammit.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: That's good. All right.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: First of all, thank you, panel. That was a great conversation.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Up next, I want to start with you, Blue.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: Arianne and her sister.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Adina, had a conversation.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: This is where you start with me for real?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I'm talking to.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: You, Blue.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Arianne.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Here's what's going on.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Arianne is talking to her sister and she's like, look, girl.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I got this new situation where I'm around Martel's friends.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: And girl, you know, they coming after girl, right?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: They are holding me, holding my feet to the fire
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: based on something that I've already.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: These are her words before y'all try to read me.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I didn't say this. Lord Jesus. Arianne said, I was
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: in my twenties, girl. I was young. It happened. I apologize.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I took accountability.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I was going through a situation where everyone was telling
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: my story and And the audience met me spiraling out
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of control because my situation was being discussed.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I could not defend myself.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Me defending myself was my introduction to the world, but
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I was not chasing fame.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Is there a question in that bullshit? Sorry, is there
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: a question?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: I wanted, well, let me, well, let me just finish
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: this part too, Blue.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Um, Arianne also brought up Destiny and said that Destiny
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: is a liar who got arrested for fraud. Her sister
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: said at the end of the day, Destiny is a fan.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: That was a scene.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I thought the fans were the people that were in
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: the audience, not the people who were on stage before you.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Words mean things. So let's try against this. How old
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: is Arianne?
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: She's in her 30s.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Like what, early 30s?
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I believe, do not quote me on this. And Jamie,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: give me the right answer. I want to say she's 34.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: So she's 34, talking about like this happened in the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: late 90s. Like maybe you... I need you to relax. Okay,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: so here's the thing. Since the very first episode, Ariana
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: keeps doing this thing where because she was in her 20s,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: things don't count. I'm like the credit bureau. That's not
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: how that works.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She's 36 years old.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Sure, 36 years old. You can't keep using the fact
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: that when I was young, when I was young, when
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I was young. Like, at a certain point, you made
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: a choice, okay? According to your frontal lobe, it had
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: already congealed. You were a grown lady. And this is
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: not your first time being a side piece. So at
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: what point did we just call it a lifestyle, beloved? Also, too,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I hope her sister watches the show so she can
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: see what actually happened. versus the way that Arianne's brain
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: remembers things. Third thing, Arianne, here's my biggest gripe with
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you because part of me being autistic is pattern recognition.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: You keep insisting and demanding the same level of respect
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: as Martel's partner that had he given that kind of respect,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be here to begin with. Your premise is flawed.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: The character you're acting of him, him not having it
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: is the only reason you're here. So which one is it?
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Do you want a nigga with character or do you
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: want the Martel who took you down to the place
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: and put a baby in you? Which one is it?
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: Preach, nigga.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: The nigga you want wouldn't have been with you. In
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: the words of Groucho Marx, I will not have any
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: club that will take me. So a man of integrity
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have chose you, beloved. So stop asking for a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: man of integrity. You can't be with one.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: What is we talking about?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I'm going crazy watching this show, Carlos. I'm so tired
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: of this bitch. I'm so tired. Be happy. Be happy
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: that he feeds on scraps. That's the only way you'd
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: even be on the TV screen with us. And what
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: you mean you don't want fame? When Carlos King and
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: his shiny head came with the contract, you signed it, ho.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Which one is it? You showed up for the show
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: with your outfit for the intro. Which one is it?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: That's called fame.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Signed a contract and took a picture like she had
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: bought a house.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: You signed the contract. You went to Canal Street and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of Chanel knockoffs. You want to be famous.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about? If Ariana did want to
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: be famous, Melody Holt would still have a husband. So
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: please relax. Relax, relax, relax. Okay? You ain't got a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: lot of kick it, cred. You ain't got a lot
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: of kick it. I'm tired. I'm tired of pretending these
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: arguments make sense. You want a level of respect that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: had it existed, you wouldn't exist. So just be happy
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: that an Asian nigga chose you and you got a
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: chance to be on TV. I'm tired. Who's next, y'all?
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Dustin Ross.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, last week I told you that my
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: wish for Arianne was that she would just find some real,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: you know, help and support. I think I mentioned a
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: strict bedtime schedule and hot meals, things like that, PE.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: So I was happy to see her sister.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: As in physical ed?
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: I was happy to see, to maintain, you know, being
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: active in your brain, it goes hand in hand.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: But I was happy to see that she had a sister.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: And I was happy to see.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: That she's in a relationship with her sister because now
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: when Arianne does crazy shit, we got somebody to do
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: like this to.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: We didn't have that before.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: So I was very happy that the reality TV gods
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: provided that for us.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Now we have someone who we can hold.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: We have a new pair of feet to hold to
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: that fire because you, her sister, what the fuck was
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: y'all doing allowing this to go on?
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Is she older or younger, Carlos? Child. Is she older
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: than Arianne or younger?
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Younger.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, so she's younger. I don't care. I can be
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: speaking up.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: I'm the youngest, and I tell my brother and sister
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: whatever I want to say to them. So I'll tell
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: them in a minute. That shit was dumb, but they
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: don't be doing dumb shit. But I would say that
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: to them is the point. Second of all, I was
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: happy to see that she has support. Arianne, in order
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: for Arianne, because Arianne, she's here now, right? She's on
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: the show. She's a part of this cast. So I'm
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: looking at this like, what can i do to put
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: to patch up the holes in this boat you know
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: what i'm saying because there's so many i'm running out
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: of tape and band-aids but i thought since she's a
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: part of this cast seeing her with people who are
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: not in the cast will help us get to know
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: her differently because the only engagement the only exposure we've
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: had to her is with um her son's father and
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: with people connected to him we have not seen her
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: now that we have to look at her we haven't
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: seen her with anyone other than people who are connected
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: to all of the bad things that we know about
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: her and that she continues to present to us off
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: online that are not the best reflection of who she
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: really might be so her sister being here is a
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: great opportunity for us to see something outside of that
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: we need to see y'all love a nail shot we
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: need to see some nail scenes they need to go
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: eat chicken salad and light things.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: We need to see her engaging with people in light
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: ways that truly love her.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Because if she got a sister that'll come film with her,
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: that's family. So if there's more people in that orbit
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: that can service her in that way, I think it'll
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: be good for her. And that's really the only chance
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: we have to throw a life vest onto her boat.
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? Because arguing with the cast,
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: defending bad decisions that link her to Martell forever.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: None of that is sustainable. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: It's like trying to swim on a Swiss cheese, you know, raft.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: It's just not going to work. So, you know, I'm
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: glad that we see other people.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Dominique Morgan, your thoughts on her sister, Adina.
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: You know, my thoughts may not be popular, but I
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: too have a teen to the tism and pattern recognition.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: And also I look at systems at play in front
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: of me. I don't think Arianne is close to her sister.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're close. I think that.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I would love to know more about the family dynamic.
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: I have some assumptions I'm going to share. I'm naming
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: that they're assumptions. Don't get in the comments, getting too cute.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Because I like to get beautiful.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Is it different daddies, Dominique?
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: Huh?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: You think they got different daddies?
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: I believe there's a different daddy set. If not a
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: different daddy set, there is a different experience in how
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: they treat them due to colorism, her being lighter skin.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: And I also, the dynamics of sisters and the way
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: they show up, I would love to know, does the
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: sister have a child? Is the sister married? And I
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: want to know what lifestyle is Arianne chasing? And I
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: don't think Arianne is trying to prove something to us.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: I think she's trying to prove something to her family.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: And I think having her sister come on was her
• 56:40
  Speaker 6: trying to put herself in a position. That's why she
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: lied to her sister like that. When she knew her
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: sister could, like, if I asked Monroe to come and
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: do something with me, I wouldn't sit there and give
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: her some foolishness knowing you're going to watch the episode
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: back and know that I'm not giving you the real
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: because that just throws away the sisterly experience we just
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: had because it was fraudulent.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: But Arianne is fraudulent in many ways. Let me explain.
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: I need her to acquiesce the idea of not wanting
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: to be famous if she doesn't because I don't think
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: she wanted fame at first.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I think she wanted the experience.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: I was watching a clip from Portia Williams was talking about,
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: it might have been in an interview with you, Carlos,
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: when she was talking about the Southern Veil expectation. I
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: find a husband, right? And I want him to take
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: care of me. That's the expectation.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: And all the things. And that is a true truth
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: for the girls in the South.
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: And I believe that with Arianne, she hoped that she
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: would get the Martel that Martel wanted us to believe
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: he was when we realized that that Martel only existed
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: because of who his ex was and how she held
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: him up. He is not that guy without that lady.
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: And so, sister, you're going to have to be famous
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: because the family business is TV and this is your
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: version of 50-50. Embarrassing yourself and sharing things, right, that
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to share. I always think about, everybody
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: loves to talk about don't bring up the kids. The
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: children are school age. And I think I saw something
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: where they were like, Arianne started from people wanting to
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: activate grace for Arianne's choices.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: She was in college or she was in her early 20s.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: If she's 36, that means 12, 13, over a decade,
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: you've been in this situation and you haven't figured out
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: how to own your story and narrative. Even if the
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: story was, yeah, I did it, Miss Thing. This is
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: what it was. And you're going to take it. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: hate when the girls make these sacrifices and don't have
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: good people on their team because I would have had
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: me a book about this.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I would have been on a nasty speaking tour. It's
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: no shade, right?
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: Me and Martel, even if people twisted their face to it,
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: we will be talking about these things. And I'm just like,
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: you're not maximizing the opportunity. You want people to believe
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: a version of you they're never going to believe because
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: they watched. And to go to what Blue said, you
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: want the respect that the wife had and they're not
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: going to give it to you, sister, because they know
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: what you did to the wife so baby girl sit
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: there eat your food I think no seriously I think
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: people will respect you more if you were just like
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: listen This isn't perfect, but I'm working on building the
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: life that I, the best I can. I want to
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: give my child this type of thing. I'm making it work.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: Y'all know who Martel is, but I love him and
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: we gonna make it work. And she actually could build
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: a deep relationship with the women on this show. Because
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: she's been on the other side of the things they've experienced.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: There could be some compassion, some understanding, but she's looking
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: to be affirmed by them as she was a victim
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: as well. And I'm not negating that she didn't experience hardships.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: But if you go in the desert with no water
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: and no food, you're going to pass out, niece. Martell
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: is the desert with no water and no food. And
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: so no one's really compassionate about you passing out. you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: need to destabilize yourself. But I don't think that her
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: and her sister are synced up like that. And I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: believe that there is something under there that makes her
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: want to tell her sister a version of a story
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: that makes her look good so she can feel like
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: they're equitable. And if Arianne keeps living a life where
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: she is proving to people that she matters, she's never
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: going to have any peace. And she tries to put
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: a martel that she matters. She's trying to preach to people,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: to the women on the show. She's in the comments
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: and in the things. It's like, baby girl, you made
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: a poor choice.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Eat it.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Eat it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: And a grown woman says, that was 15 years ago.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: This is who I am now. Amen.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: And because you can't say that, we will believe who
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: you were then is who you are now, which is
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: why you're treated.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: So with that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: With that being said, starting with you, Blue, when you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: see Arianne at the table with Destiny and Martel, and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Martel got the girls together because he really is trying
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: to find some common ground based on what happened in
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the previous episode where Destiny and Arianne had their issue
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: based on Arianne mentioning the kid, and that whole thing
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: blew up.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: As Destiny's there, she clearly is.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Not trying to have any sort of conversation with Arianne.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: One thing she did say that you mentioned earlier, Blue,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: was the fact that Destiny's like, look, I'm here to listen,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm not here to explain myself. And at this point, Martel,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: take her side. That's your lady. Take her side. I'm
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: releasing you. I'm not trying to be in this triangulation.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: She gets up and leaves and tells Arianne, since you
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: keep telling people my cards are climbing, I got this one.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Arianne's response was, that's okay, we got it. Tisha already
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: told me you're having financial problems.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: So, first of all, me and Dustin and everybody else,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: we should all do cameos. Dominique, would you like to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: do a cameo? We should all do a cameo and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: go to Huntsville. I would like to be a patron
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: number six in the restaurant during these conversations because, oh
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: my God, I will say this. I love that she
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: used the word triangulation. That's exactly what was happening. I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: love that she used that term properly. Number two, what
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: she was doing before anybody starts using words incorrectly was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: not passive aggressive. Because I saw somebody mention in the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: comments on threads or somewhere, well, Destiny was being passive aggressive. No, actually, no,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: she wasn't. She wasn't. You guys need to understand. What
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: she was doing is called gray rocking. When you're dealing
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: with somebody who has a problem for every solution, who
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: is itching for an argument, and is waiting to play
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: semantic Sally with you and let you get the wrong
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: accent that you wrong on a word, they on your ass,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: you have to do something called gray rocking where you
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: make yourself as uninteresting and dry as possible so they
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: can stay on task. And no matter how much they
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: nip at your heels to try to get you to
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: devolve in the way that my co-host said earlier, she
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: did regress because she decided to go to hell or
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: hell adjacent, you don't do anything to feed the desire
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: for dysfunction. So number one, gray rocking, excellent choice of
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: gray rocking, Destiny, and I love that you call that
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: the triangulation was happening. Number two, do you see that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: even after the gray rocking took place, old girl still
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: found a way to lie about what Destiny was saying
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: while Martel was sitting there? He said, can we have respect?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: She said, I can definitely have respect for you. Kaka,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: not hearing her name. What's Kaka's actual name? I forgot
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: it already because my brain won't retain it.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: Arion.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: There we go. Her, hearing that her name was not mentioned,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: then made up a story that she said, I refuse
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: to respect you. Never happened. I replayed the tape three times.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, am I having an aneurysm? It never happened.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: It did not happen. I checked, Carlos. The fact that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Martel is sitting at the table and he's like, wait,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: if she's lying about what's happening as I'm sitting here,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: what else has she been getting wrong? I think that
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: conversation was the moment that he realized that he's been
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: working on bad intel and the edit might not favor him.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Plot twist, you were correct, Martel. Also, Destiny deciding to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: release both of them, I think was the smartest thing
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: she's done. I think all of us, I don't want
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: to speak for all of us, but I think we
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: can all agree because If Martel is going to learn,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: he has to learn on his own. And the only
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: way to make somebody like that learn on their own
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: is to stop being the excuse. We've all been in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: relationships where triangulation has happened, and everybody swears it's your
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: fault their life sucks, and you go away and their
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: life still sucks. What does that mean, boys and girls?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: If your life sucks after I'm gone, it probably sucked
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: because of you and not me, yes? So I love
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: that she's removing herself. And Martel, can I be honest, guys?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I think a little bit of it was Destiny's good
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: for his wallet. What Arianne doesn't recognize is the only
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: reason that she can be in that neighborhood that Destiny
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: lives in and that Martel can pay for the home
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: that he won't move in with her with, which sounds
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: a little bit like a concubine, because again, since we
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: want to use all the words properly, that house that
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: he got you in Destiny's neighborhood, he could only do
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: because he's doing good business with people like Destiny. You're
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: not just fucking with his heart. whatever we believe he
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: might have of a heart, you're fucking with his wallet.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: He's losing an old high school friend and a business
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: partner that was actually putting money on your table. So
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: it's crazy that you're saying she has financial issues when
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: you're eating off of her plate. Make it make sense.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I hope she watches this show, Carlos, because you're on it.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: She's not watching for us. But I hope she's watching
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: this show. And somewhere deep down, she's taking notes. Arianne,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: can you hear us? Because you have an opportunity to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: fix this. But if you don't, we're going to be
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: on your ass season two because you can't play ignorance
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: or say you were in your 20s. You're five minutes
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: to 40. You need to update your fucking bio. You're
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: five minutes to 40. Enough about you being in your 20s.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I'm watching you fail at 36, baby girl.
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  Speaker 4: Dominique Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: She's not going to take notes. Arianne is a Liam.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: She's a Liam. Got it.
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  Speaker 6: And Leos might in private admit that they messed up,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: but they're never going to do it publicly.
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  Speaker 2: That's just not a Leo thing. You're correct.
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  Speaker 6: Notable Leos, Whitney Houston, President Obama.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's just, okay.
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  Speaker 6: Two, I still sit with, if I was in Arian's circle,
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  Speaker 6: if I was in her community, The first area that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: I would challenge her to work on is not desiring
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: to be respected or validated by anyone because much of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: her foolishness is searching for that. To go to Blue's point,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: now I caught the shade of what Dessie did where
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: it would land a shade because essentially, Arian wants you
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: to respect her and Dessie's saying, I'm never gonna respect
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: you but because I respect him, I'm going to keep
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: it cute. And that's not enough for Arian. So because
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: you want this direct respect that's not going to happen,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: then you felt like it was thrown out the window.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: That's not what took place. And if you divest, every
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: good hoe I know don't care about what nobody say.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: So if you're going to hunch on other people's men, sister.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: If the children are saying this is your second child
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: with somebody out of wedlock, you're going to have to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: uncleave yourself from that to survive, niece.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: And the other piece is that when I watched it,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: I would have swung on Martel because I'm not doing this.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: You're not bringing me here to facilitate this conversation that
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: you made.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: This tension, you're at the nexus of.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: So why are you acting like you're facilitating or you're
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: the arbitrator of this when you make this happen? And
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: I feel like what I'm sitting with right now is
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: And I've seen some scenes with Martel and his mother,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: but what is the mother wound with this man? What
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: is it? And what is his struggle? And why does
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: he really... Why does a battery get put in his
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: back when women are in chaos around him?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: When women are in distress... And he's at the center
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: of it. He blossoms.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: And it could be the idea that a lot of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: men need to feel like they're kind of being chivalrous
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: and saving everybody. And so, you know, sometimes people set
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: a fire to go, you know, there's the fireman who
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: sets the fire so he can go to the fall
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: and put it out. But there's something deeper there because
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: when I witnessed this, I'm like, why would, as my friend,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: why would you ask me to come here? Like, I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: don't even want to have this type of conversation.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Like, this is weird.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: As your girl or the mother of your child, why
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: would you put me in this situation like this?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: What is the next move? Because you've known Destiny for decades,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: so you know she's not going to budge, right? You
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: know Arian, when it comes to you, she's not going
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: to budge.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: She didn't care. You know what she really wants.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: And I believe Martell knows Arian's hearts are dire because
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: I believe that's how he breadcrumbs her.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Right. And so, like, I put you in the house.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: I'm paying the bills. I'm not your husband.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: I don't live there. But this is respectable. I'm taking
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: care of you.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Respectable.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: This is these words and this language specifically, again, in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: the South matters because you can cheat on me, but
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: you didn't embarrass.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Don't. Right. Right. You feel me?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: And so some of these things that she's receiving feels
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: like an affirmation for her.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: And I think that he's playing a game.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I would love, if I was Arian's friend,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: I'd be like, sister, I'm not telling you that you
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: shouldn't want respect, but I need you to train yourself
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: to not need their respect for you to be okay.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Dustin Ross.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, what was the original question? What was the original question?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was okay.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I love this show so much. Y'all on fire tonight.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: Based on the scene between Martell, Destiny, and Arianne, what
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: were your thoughts on Destiny saying.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Look, at this point, take her side. That's your lady.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I release you. I'm out of here.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: And did you.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Think Arianne's dig was inappropriate because all Destiny said was,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you're going around telling everybody my car got declined. And
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Arianne saying, well, Tisha told people that you still have
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: financial problems.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: Wasn't surprised by any of it. I'll try to be
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: as succinct as possible, right, for the sake of time.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: Number one, I expect that sort of reaction from Arianne
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: because she was there to argue with Destiny and she
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: wanted to get Destiny in the argument. So I wasn't
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: surprised by that. Number two, Martel brought Destiny there. The
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: expectation in the room was on behalf of Martel expecting
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Destiny to acquiesce in some way. with regard toward their history,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 5: how long they've known each other, and whatever connection.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: That I believe is platonic, right?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: But whatever connection that they've been able to sustain on
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: the back end, having back end conversations about things, having
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: a camaraderie that is private between the two of them,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: I think that he leaned into that and expected Destiny
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: to be like, all right, I'm going to go ahead
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: and be cool with her or whatever for the sake
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: of me and you being friends. Like she's done many
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: times in the past regarding a whole lot of other shit.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: But now Destiny is smelling herself on the show. You
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? She's found her voice, so to speak.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: She's Dina Jones after listen in Dreamgirls. That's what she
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: is on the show right now. And so she's not
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: about to acquiesce in any way, shape or form to
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: somebody who she doesn't have any respect for.
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  Speaker 3: So that's my thoughts.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Raindrops, 11 match times bill every Saturday, 8 o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: 7 central. We are back with an all-new episode this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Saturday on OWN.
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  Speaker 4: So can we get you guys to see that?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: We killed that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Can we cut for us?
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  Speaker 4: That was great.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: First of all, fantastic conversation. I love that.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Really, really, really powerful, powerful conversation. All right, so Raindrops,
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  Speaker 1: let us know in the comments your thoughts. Leave us
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: a comment. Dustin, Blue, and my beautiful sis, Dominique, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for joining us again tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Raindrops, I love y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Love you, family.
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  Speaker 3: Love y'all.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Peace out.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Love y'all.
• 1:12:51
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• 1:12:56
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