Latest / Armstrong & Getty One More Thing / Checking-In With Crazy People
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Check in with crazy people real quick. It's one more thing.
- 0:05Speaker 2: One more thing.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Before I get to two specific stories from the New
- 0:12Speaker 1: York Times, which is like visiting a zoo sometimes. I
- 0:16Speaker 1: just saw there's a trend. Apparently, it's hard to say
- 0:22Speaker 1: if it's a trend or if it happened once and
- 0:24Speaker 1: they're just pretending it's a trend. But of a woman
- 0:28Speaker 1: who used Hinge. That's one of your popular dating apps,
- 0:32Speaker 1: probably owned by Match dot Com. Match dot com bought
- 0:36Speaker 1: up all the dating apps. They're all the same now.
- 0:38Speaker 1: But uh, Hinge figured out a way to get a
- 0:44Speaker 1: guy on a first date to build like a piece
- 0:48Speaker 1: of furniture from Ikea for her. That's pretty good.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Which there's a lot of stuff in the modern world
- 0:59Speaker 2: that pisses me off. This is not one of them.
- 1:02Speaker 1: As a guy, you know, I thought it would help.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Yet I would do that build your friend. Sure, I
- 1:07Speaker 1: kind of enjoy it.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean shows me, you know, how to
- 1:10Speaker 3: do something.
- 1:11Speaker 1: She said she felt like she was getting the full
- 1:15Speaker 1: boyfriend experience by pretending to like him. I guess briefly.
- 1:22Speaker 1: So he would build her some furniture that's pretty brilliant.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got the r O D though the Reek
- 1:31Speaker 2: of Desperation. If as a guy you agree to it, though,
- 1:34Speaker 2: oh totally. I mean, come on, dude, no, that's that's
- 1:38Speaker 2: that's what you do for your girlfriend. It's not an
- 1:41Speaker 2: audition to become a boyfriend. Otherwise it's just labor, just
- 1:49Speaker 2: not being.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Paid to work here, Yes, exactly, so I mentioned one
- 1:55Speaker 1: of these has got to do with dating. But first,
- 1:56Speaker 1: this one The Wall Street the New York Times rather
- 1:59Speaker 1: is some times like visiting the zoo. For me, I
- 2:02Speaker 1: grew up in rural Midwest, and I mean it's as
- 2:04Speaker 1: different from the culture of the people, because New York
- 2:10Speaker 1: isn't even the same as the New York Times. It's
- 2:13Speaker 1: a special kind of weirdo people. Anyway, they are a.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Long judgmental just because they're of a somewhat different cultural
- 2:25Speaker 2: set of norms and strata. Frankly, at different level.
- 2:28Speaker 1: I'll let you decide. Long article about why the right
- 2:31Speaker 1: is obsessed with thinness when diet culture meets conservative morality,
- 2:36Speaker 1: conservative Christian influencers are reshaping beauty standards of promoting diet culture,
- 2:42Speaker 1: and it goes on and on and on from there
- 2:44Speaker 1: for many, many, many, many words like these articles do yeah.
- 2:49Speaker 1: So when did when did not being obese becomes some
- 2:53Speaker 1: sort of right wing thing we need to watch out for.
- 2:56Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 2:57Speaker 1: And you know, the thinnest places in America are usually
- 3:00Speaker 1: your lefty cities like La San Diego, San Francisco, Boulder, Colorado,
- 3:05Speaker 1: places like that. In New Hampshire, that's where all the
- 3:08Speaker 1: thin people are. Granola eating, super ud driving, traders, joe shopping.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Yeah, walking to work.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's here's a new limitation of the First Amendment
- 3:22Speaker 2: that I'd like to introduce.
- 3:24Speaker 1: If before you.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Write some big magazine slash newspaper, slash website article about
- 3:31Speaker 2: a trend, you need to remember and there's a test.
- 3:36Speaker 2: There's a two tiered test I'm going to suggest here,
- 3:39Speaker 2: but you need to remember that not everything that happens
- 3:43Speaker 2: that several people have done is quote unquote a trend.
- 3:47Speaker 2: There are eight billion people on earth that probably I
- 3:49Speaker 2: don't know a quarter of them are online, at least
- 3:52Speaker 2: some and so.
- 3:54Speaker 1: That's billions of people.
- 3:56Speaker 2: If seven hundred and thirty three of them who happen
- 3:59Speaker 2: to be right wingers think, you know, you're better off
- 4:01Speaker 2: being thin, it's healthier, that's not a trend. And here's
- 4:06Speaker 2: how the First Amendment will limit you. If I can
- 4:09Speaker 2: prove to you, as the globes on budsmen, that there
- 4:13Speaker 2: are an equal number of right wingers who like to
- 4:16Speaker 2: be fat, then you don't get to declare that there's
- 4:19Speaker 2: a trend of right wingers who think you ought to
- 4:21Speaker 2: be thin. It's just a group of people doing something.
- 4:25Speaker 2: It's not a trend. You don't have to worry about it.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Well, there's that, which is obviously true, But then there's
- 4:31Speaker 1: the claiming that the trend is something we should be
- 4:33Speaker 1: concerned about. Is the other thing, because they're claiming that
- 4:40Speaker 1: the right wing thin moralist influencers are trying to force
- 4:45Speaker 1: teenage girls to be thin, and of course that's dangerous
- 4:48Speaker 1: than an arectionally in all these different things, even though
- 4:50Speaker 1: we're the fattest we've ever been, the number of diseases
- 4:54Speaker 1: and hospital costs associated to obesity have exploded like our
- 4:58Speaker 1: waistlines in recent years. I don't think being too thin
- 5:01Speaker 1: is our problem, and we've.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Mostly as a country failed to spread democracy around the world,
- 5:06Speaker 2: but we have spread obesity around the world. Obesity a
- 5:10Speaker 2: more successful expert than democracy.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Yes, Katie, Oh, it's just that that was one of
- 5:16Speaker 3: the bigger stretches I've heard in a while that you're right,
- 5:21Speaker 3: it is fit is going I don't know.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Okay, here's a question for you.
- 5:28Speaker 1: This sort of crap drives me crazy. I've hated this
- 5:30Speaker 1: for decades and this is a new version of it.
- 5:32Speaker 2: All Right, I'll get to the very interesting and revealing
- 5:35Speaker 2: question after Jack rants a little more so.
- 5:37Speaker 1: There's a distinct idea that overeaten or gluttony, which is
- 5:40Speaker 1: one of the seven deadly sins, is immoral. And if
- 5:42Speaker 1: your body size is not whatever society thinks is an
- 5:45Speaker 1: appropriate body size, that that is a sin. The different,
- 5:50Speaker 1: the whole. I'm influenced by society and body size thing. Ah,
- 5:56Speaker 1: who do you know that falls into that category. I've
- 5:59Speaker 1: never own anybody. The magazines are are leading them to
- 6:05Speaker 1: like ruin their lives because they need to look like,
- 6:09Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Well, you're not an adolescent girl,
- 6:13Speaker 1: No I'm not.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I would say that, so and and that's I think
- 6:16Speaker 2: that's a bit of a blind spot for you. But
- 6:20Speaker 2: here's here's my fascinating philosophical question.
- 6:22Speaker 1: But it would seem to me that society is telling
- 6:25Speaker 1: us we should be fat. If I look around other
- 6:28Speaker 1: than on a magazine.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Certainly there's a case being made for it. Yeah, pretty
- 6:32Speaker 2: aggressively a few years ago. Yeah, fat acceptance, body positivity.
- 6:39Speaker 2: So here's one of these questions. You know, what color
- 6:42Speaker 2: is this guy in your world? Very two very different
- 6:45Speaker 2: sorts of people. A conflict of visions, tomasul blah blah blah.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Since conservatives tend to be more individuals, individualistic, individual rights
- 6:57Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and and lefties tend to be a
- 6:59Speaker 2: little more collective, collective action, we need to band together
- 7:03Speaker 2: blah blah bah. Is it partly that we can't picture
- 7:11Speaker 2: somebody who's easily influenced by the culture around them, because
- 7:15Speaker 2: we're not like that, whereas they the collectivist you know,
- 7:22Speaker 2: lefties who actually want to give socialism another try, A
- 7:25Speaker 2: lot of them, they are that easily influenced, and so
- 7:30Speaker 2: they're much more sensitive to that sort of influence.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I couldn't give a crap.
- 7:36Speaker 2: If some quote unquote trend is going on that, you know,
- 7:39Speaker 2: six year old suburban dads ought to look like this,
- 7:42Speaker 2: that or the other. I would look at that and
- 7:44Speaker 2: laugh and go back to doing whatever I was doing.
- 7:47Speaker 2: I don't care. Now that might just be me as
- 7:50Speaker 2: an individual. But don't you think I'll throw it to Katie,
- 7:54Speaker 2: don't you think that people on the right tend to
- 7:56Speaker 2: be less concerned about what everybody else thinks?
- 8:00Speaker 3: I absolutely?
- 8:05Speaker 1: And then this, as Katie called it, a stretch to
- 8:07Speaker 1: try to turn it into your using the right, which
- 8:11Speaker 1: is more religious, is trying to put a religious spin
- 8:15Speaker 1: on you need to look a certain way. What.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's some group of twelve women online somewhere
- 8:22Speaker 2: who like, have a Bible study and decided Jesus wants
- 8:25Speaker 2: you to be thin. But there's people saying.
- 8:27Speaker 1: All sorts of crazy shit online.
- 8:30Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you have to pay attention to it
- 8:31Speaker 2: or it's a trend.
- 8:33Speaker 1: But but what if you should be thinned?
- 8:35Speaker 2: You?
- 8:35Speaker 1: I should be thin you? We should all be thinner, right,
- 8:38Speaker 1: we should be? So where do you stop there? That's
- 8:41Speaker 1: not like a moral statement or whatever. It's just ask
- 8:44Speaker 1: your doctor. They would tell you should be thinner.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. We're back to people being especially sensitive
- 8:52Speaker 2: to criticism. I guess I don't know. How about you know,
- 8:57Speaker 2: love the Uh, You're gonna hate this, but love the sinner.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that all of these journalists in the
- 9:03Speaker 1: New York Times that wrote this, because there's a big
- 9:05Speaker 1: piece of people together. They're probably all just stick figures
- 9:09Speaker 1: who go to the gym every day, and you know,
- 9:12Speaker 1: offend it on other people's behin right, exactly, They're offended
- 9:15Speaker 1: on society's behalf, which.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Is another commonality over yonder.
- 9:21Speaker 1: I'm glad that we don't have to make up things
- 9:25Speaker 1: for a living like well, I don't know. Often there
- 9:28Speaker 1: are times I think they think they're actually just observing
- 9:31Speaker 1: life and coming up with clever things. I don't think
- 9:34Speaker 1: they're making it up. Yeah, I don't think that I
- 9:36Speaker 1: would agree. I'll tell you what. Our daughter Delany headed
- 9:41Speaker 1: back to law school. And it's too bad because it's great.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Fun having her hair, but hanging around to any extent
- 9:50Speaker 2: with a twenty something with a twenty somethings metabolism.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Is just bad.
- 9:56Speaker 2: It's just bad and just not good. And I'm not
- 9:59Speaker 2: strong enough to resists. She just she can like pick
- 10:04Speaker 2: up a key line pie on the way home from
- 10:06Speaker 2: work and introduce that in the house and you know,
- 10:09Speaker 2: do you want to go out for a latte? Dad?
- 10:10Speaker 2: And why don't we have a cinnamon roll? We're having
- 10:12Speaker 2: dinner in three hours. Yeah, I know, but I'm hungry
- 10:14Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. It's just it never ends.
- 10:17Speaker 1: The other end of it for old people and I
- 10:19Speaker 1: go to my parents' house, they just don't eat. They're
- 10:23Speaker 1: old now, they just don't need to eat, and psyching
- 10:25Speaker 1: does anybody eat?
- 10:27Speaker 2: Wow? So it's past that whole The whole get together
- 10:31Speaker 2: revolves around food.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Now to being not so much because I know that's
- 10:36Speaker 1: where I am in my life. The amount of food
- 10:38Speaker 1: I need to live is so tiny. It's shocking. Really.
- 10:41Speaker 1: It always makes me think this. We're surrounded by billboards
- 10:44Speaker 1: and ads and reviews and discussions and and all the
- 10:48Speaker 1: accouterments that go with it. With the new you, we
- 10:51Speaker 1: got to have the KitchenAid mixer, all the different things.
- 10:53Speaker 1: You need so little food in your life to get by.
- 10:57Speaker 1: It should be a minor thing in your life.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm just about to spend a lot of
- 11:01Speaker 2: money on a grill, and you had to say that.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Now I feel bad about it.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Oh kind of grill, what's it gonna do?
- 11:07Speaker 2: A good grill, A nice grill.
- 11:09Speaker 1: I got that little hobo one that's on the cement. Yeah,
- 11:12Speaker 1: you're a homeless guy, little mini Webber I have. I
- 11:15Speaker 1: have to get down on my knees to use it.
- 11:17Speaker 1: It's a it's a Weber with three bees.
- 11:20Speaker 2: It's Chinese knock.
- 11:22Speaker 1: It costs like think it cost eight and a half dollars.
- 11:25Speaker 1: I got it on sale. Get Timu or whatever.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, so your girl's nicer than that, Oh my lord, Jack,
- 11:37Speaker 2: spend another ten dollars.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Get one with legs so I don't have to lay
- 11:40Speaker 1: it down on the ground. Cook you don't have to
- 11:42Speaker 1: hold it in your hands. Out hurts so much.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Last night for dinner, three grapes. That's all I had there,
- 11:51Speaker 2: you go, So, yeah, you're right, Jeff, you don't need
- 11:53Speaker 2: much food.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's it.