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Current Blue Jays TV analyst and former Orioles catcher Caleb Joseph dishes on new Halos · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hell, Hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory.
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Speaker 1: I am Mike di Giovanna, former La Times Baseball writer
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Speaker 1: and host of the show. If you're watching us on YouTube,
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Speaker 1: I'm not flying solo today, but we are going to
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Speaker 1: mix it up a little bit because Mark Trumbo, the
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Speaker 1: former Angel slugger and Halo Territory co host, was able
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Speaker 1: to put together a really interesting interview with Caleb Joseph,
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Speaker 1: one of his former Orioles teammates. Joseph is a former
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Speaker 1: catcher who played seven years in the Big leagues with Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: Arizona and Toronto from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty, and
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Speaker 1: is currently a TV analyst for the defending ALE champion
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Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. Joseph provides quite a bit of insight
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Speaker 1: on several new Angels players, including Alec Manoa, Jordan Romano,
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Speaker 1: and Nick Sandlin, as well as new Angels hitting coach
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Speaker 1: Brady Anderson, who helped tutor him in Baltimore. Joseph spent
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Speaker 1: four seasons at Double A and says he never would
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Speaker 1: have made it to the big leagues if not for
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Speaker 1: Brady Anderson. He also weighs out a potential blueprint for
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Speaker 1: a team aspiring to go from worse to first in
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Speaker 1: its division. So listen up, Angels Helo fans.
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Speaker 2: We're lucky to have a very special guest today. He
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Speaker 2: is an expert on all things Blue Jays, and even
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Speaker 2: though we're not covering the Blue Jays, we have a
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Speaker 2: lot of their players and I was hoping a great
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Speaker 2: ex teammate of mine, a great friend of mine, could
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Speaker 2: lend us a hand with some scouting reports, possibly on
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Speaker 2: some of these guys that, frankly, I'm not terribly familiar
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Speaker 2: with some of them, I am. I'd also like to
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Speaker 2: talk about the Jays turnaround, going from a last place
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Speaker 2: club in twenty twenty four to a World Series appearance
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Speaker 2: and a very admirable showing against an excellent Dodger team
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Speaker 2: that is very stabbed. There's another topic on a new
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Speaker 2: Angel's coach that I think Caleb can lend some excellent
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Speaker 2: insights into. But how are you doing? What is going on?
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Speaker 2: And I'm going to let you do the heavy lifting
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Speaker 2: because you are the professional.
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Speaker 3: Not quite not quite doing great. Great to be with you,
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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I can't take my eyes off
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Speaker 3: of that silver bat in the background. I think that's
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Speaker 3: a silver slugger. Did you get that at the yard
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Speaker 3: sale or did you earn.
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Speaker 2: That that was an eBay purchase? Sometimes, you know, cruising
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Speaker 2: around you see things I said that would make pretty
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Speaker 2: good decre So, yes, thank you for pointing out on
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Speaker 2: the on the main show. I know AJ Pierzynski also
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Speaker 2: mentioned it. I think you came up actually the other
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Speaker 2: day at the context. But yeah, something maybe about arbitration.
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Speaker 4: But hey, let me tell you a quick story about AJ.
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Speaker 3: So my first year, I'm a rookie in the big
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Speaker 3: leagues and he's playing for the Red Sox, and I
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Speaker 3: mean he's been around forever. I get in the box
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, what's up, AJ? And he just
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Speaker 3: looks at me, doesn't say anything. I was like, oh, okay, whatever.
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Speaker 3: So I end up grounding out or whatever. Next that
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Speaker 3: bat I woke up, Hey what's up? AJ showed up rookie.
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, that was just how it
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Speaker 3: was back then, back then, and you know Mark, back then, rookies.
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Speaker 4: Were to be seen not heard. AJ was great. And
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Speaker 4: then sure enough, four or five months into.
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Speaker 3: My first year he would actually talk to me, but
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Speaker 3: he was given me kind of that rookie silent treatment.
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Speaker 3: I always kind of respected him later on down the
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Speaker 3: line because.
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Speaker 4: That's just how it was.
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Speaker 3: It was kind of one of those things that you
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Speaker 3: had to do to kind of earn the veterans respect.
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Speaker 3: I'll never forget that at Boston, him just staring at
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Speaker 3: me like I didn't even exist.
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Speaker 4: Pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple instances there, at least one
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Speaker 2: in spring training. He no doubt has no clue and
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Speaker 2: I didn't bring it up on the main show, but
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Speaker 2: he had a swimmer off the end of the bat.
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Speaker 2: I was playing first and I had let it go
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Speaker 2: just a little bit further than he would have liked.
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Speaker 2: It was one of those borderline ones and you know,
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Speaker 2: uncertain terms. He told me to we'll clean the language
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Speaker 2: up and to pick the ball up, and of course
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Speaker 2: in that context, I had to let it go because
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Speaker 2: that is kind of a test of and it went
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Speaker 2: foul whatever. But I think once he realized I could
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Speaker 2: play a little bit, that that was how it was,
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Speaker 2: and you are correct, and I think that that's, you know,
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Speaker 2: some of the insights that fans want and the way
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Speaker 2: things have changed when we came up. You had to
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Speaker 2: earn it whatever you did in the minor leagues was
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Speaker 2: more or less irrelevant. Not that it's totally different now,
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Speaker 2: but I think guys, you know, they're coming up at
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Speaker 2: slightly younger ages, they're breaking in and it is a
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Speaker 2: little different world. You're on top of it. You do
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Speaker 2: this for a living, and I think, if you want
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Speaker 2: to jump right in, I want to talk about Alec Manoa.
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Speaker 2: I think he slots in in the middle of our rotation,
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Speaker 2: maybe a little towards the back end. What do you
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Speaker 2: think about Alec Manoa? How do you see this fit
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Speaker 2: for the Angels.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those real interesting signs. I
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Speaker 3: think that Perry manassia and has kind of gone out
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Speaker 3: on a limb and said, hey, if we could kind
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Speaker 3: of find a little bit that magic he had in Toronto,
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Speaker 3: we might have something.
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Speaker 4: And if not, so be it whatever.
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Speaker 3: Alec was a star in Toronto when he I think
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Speaker 3: finished second in the cy.
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Speaker 4: Young voting not too long ago.
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Speaker 3: He had an absolute dominant year and I've never watched
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Speaker 3: a pitcher that young dominate the league the like like
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Speaker 3: the way he did in Toronto. And it was impressive
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Speaker 3: to see he got really big, really quickly. He was
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Speaker 3: on billboards he was on commercials, and I think a
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Speaker 3: lot of that success kind of got into his head
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Speaker 3: a little bit, not understanding that the league is going
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Speaker 3: to hit back at some point, and the league hit
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Speaker 3: back in that second year, and he just did not
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Speaker 3: have the ability to make quicker adjustments.
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Speaker 4: The fastball that he was using.
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Speaker 3: It was a combo of the four seam in the
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Speaker 3: two seam. He got a lot of ground balls on
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Speaker 3: the two seem in that really successful year. Then he
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Speaker 3: would go up top with the four seam and really
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Speaker 3: blow guys away.
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Speaker 4: He had a pretty good little sweeper break and.
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Speaker 3: Ball that was tight, and he threw a change up
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Speaker 3: every once in a while, but he really leaned on
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Speaker 3: the two different.
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Speaker 4: Fastballs and the slider.
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Speaker 3: In the last couple of years, he just has battled
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Speaker 3: injury after injury. His confidence has probably at an all
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Speaker 3: time low, if I had to guess, considering he didn't
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Speaker 3: really pitch in the big leagues in the last year.
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Speaker 4: And a half.
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Speaker 3: Now, with that being said, he has shown that he
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Speaker 3: can get outs in the big leagues.
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Speaker 4: Is it going to take.
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Speaker 3: Quite a bit of work, quite a bit of effort,
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Speaker 3: and a little bit of a runway to get that
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Speaker 3: confidence absolutely. I wouldn't put all your eggs in his basket.
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Speaker 3: But if he shows up much like a Miles Straw
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Speaker 3: did this year for the Blue Jays and gives you
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Speaker 3: more than you expect, then it's a great sign. Otherwise
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Speaker 3: you kind of move on and see what else you
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Speaker 3: have in the system.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, under two million dollars too, I think it's an
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Speaker 2: under the radar. This could be a really nice sign.
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Speaker 2: I think that Anaheim is it's not low pressure, but
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Speaker 2: it's you've when we both played there. There is some
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Speaker 2: but it is a good place for a guy like
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Speaker 2: that to have a resurgence. Mike Maddox is the new
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Speaker 2: pitching coach. He's got as much experience as anyone in
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Speaker 2: the game, probably with the recent hirings and the trends
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Speaker 2: going on, more experienced than maybe nearly all. Well, let's
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Speaker 2: talk about Jordan Romano. He was a former Jay's closer
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Speaker 2: at one point. He's kind of bounced around. Last year
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Speaker 2: was a down year for him, but when he is going, well,
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Speaker 2: what do you like about Jordan and what does you
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Speaker 2: know he need to do to get back to form.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Markham, Ontario native was kind of.
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Speaker 4: A hometown hero.
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Speaker 3: So to speak in Toronto, they would dim the lights,
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Speaker 3: the fire.
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Speaker 4: Emojis are coming up in the music.
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Speaker 3: And he was the stopper in Toronto for an number
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Speaker 3: of years, featuring that real high octane fastball, good hard slider.
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Speaker 4: He's a tall fella.
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Speaker 3: He's really kind of goofy off the field, but in
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Speaker 3: between the lines, he's an absolute battler.
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Speaker 4: He gets out there and there's a mantra. There's like
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Speaker 4: a switch that.
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Speaker 3: Flips for him in that he turns into this just
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Speaker 3: guy that is out for blood. And I love the
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Speaker 3: fact that he can do that. For a lot of guys,
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Speaker 3: it's a bit of a fake, you know, that's not real.
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Speaker 4: You're just trying to really pump yourself up. Not in
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Speaker 4: Jordan's case.
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Speaker 3: And I was lucky to play with Jordan in his
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Speaker 3: rookie season twenty twenty, and he didn't have that kind
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Speaker 3: of mantra.
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Speaker 4: But you could tell there was a lot of fire
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Speaker 4: in the belly and he.
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Speaker 3: Kind of had that bleep Eugene in him. And of course,
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Speaker 3: with some success in the big leagues and continuing to
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Speaker 3: work on the back end of baseball games, he kind
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Speaker 3: of developed that type of mantra. Now much like Manoa
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Speaker 3: the last year and a half, he's been hit in
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Speaker 3: the mouth and he's going to have to find a
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Speaker 3: way to kind of get that persona back look. What
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Speaker 3: is it chicken and egg conversation with success versus confidence?
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Speaker 3: Do you gain success after you know you're confident or
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Speaker 3: do you gain confidence after you have success? And I
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Speaker 3: think these are two questions that both Manoa and Romano
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Speaker 3: are going to really have to kind of figure out.
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Speaker 3: Are they going to try and fake it until they
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Speaker 3: make it or do they need to see some really
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Speaker 3: good early success before they start to really build that
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Speaker 3: true interconfidence. In Jordan's case, Jordan has the ability to
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Speaker 3: get outs on the back end of baseball games.
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Speaker 4: I think the tightness of his slider, in terms of
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Speaker 4: it being really tight.
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Speaker 3: Spinning and a short, late downward type action on the
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Speaker 3: slider is key for him.
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Speaker 4: He loves that pitch.
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Speaker 3: It's a pitch that he really I think goes to
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Speaker 3: when he's super confident, and he tends to lean on
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Speaker 3: that when he's having a lot of success. There are
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Speaker 3: times when he wants to shy away from his fastball
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Speaker 3: and it can get up there ninety seven, ninety eight,
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Speaker 3: ninety nine and at times he has become predictable in
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Speaker 3: pitching to basically back, so to speak, and I think
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Speaker 3: hitters have adjusted to that. He typically likes to work
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Speaker 3: that fastball up in the slider below, but at that
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Speaker 3: point he gets boxed in on one side of the zone.
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Speaker 3: So if you want to look up, you can look up,
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Speaker 3: and it's an easy take down. If you want to
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Speaker 3: look for that slider, you eliminate anything up, and he.
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Speaker 4: Becomes an easy at bat, so to speak.
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Speaker 3: So if I'm an Angels fan and I'm kind of
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Speaker 3: watching what Romano needs to do, in my opinion, he
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Speaker 3: needs to really kind of locate that fastball a little
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Speaker 3: bit better on the outer half and maybe even a
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Speaker 3: little bit lower to then set up that slider a
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Speaker 3: little bit better. But he comes with a ton of experience,
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Speaker 3: and if he can get going when his confidence starts
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Speaker 3: to build, he can ride that roller coaster up and
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Speaker 3: he can tend to kind of drag that out into
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Speaker 3: long and prolonged series of success.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's incredible. I think that one pitch
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Speaker 2: that I'd like to see get highlighted over all the
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Speaker 2: other ones. The sweeper was very popular a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago. I don't hear much about that anymore. Like
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Speaker 2: last year, the split finger was everywhere, and you know what,
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Speaker 2: it was nasty. Both Gosman and you Savage pronounce that correctly. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 2: devastating split fingers. There's no question A big fan of that.
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Speaker 2: But the down and away fastball will never go out
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Speaker 2: of fashion. You and I have talked about it, obviously.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a big key. There's a number of
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Speaker 2: guys on the Angels pitching staff that I think would
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Speaker 2: benefit from locating their fastball. Down and away is not
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Speaker 2: a pitch that guys drive. It is, you know. I
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Speaker 2: know that there's a danger zone that's about thigh high,
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Speaker 2: at lower thigh whatever it is, and people don't really
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Speaker 2: want to pitch there. But down in a way, I
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Speaker 2: mean I had a little bit of power. You can't
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Speaker 2: do anything with it. I mean unless the guy is
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Speaker 2: disciplined and wants to take a hit the other way.
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Speaker 2: That's about all you can do with the nicely, you know,
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Speaker 2: and getting ahead in the count is huge, so little tangent,
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Speaker 2: but I think we're trying to give the fans little
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Speaker 2: look behind the curtain on what you know, our opinion
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Speaker 2: as ex players is, and that's mine down in our way.
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Speaker 2: Fastball nothing new, It's been round forever, but I'd like
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Speaker 2: to see it come back. We can kind of cover
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Speaker 2: these other guys a little bit quicker. Nick sandland Is
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Speaker 2: appears to be a side arm reliever. I've seen him
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Speaker 2: with the Guardians previously, I think, and he had a
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Speaker 2: brief stint with the Blue Jays. Did you see much
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Speaker 2: out of him? You know, he's got an odd look,
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Speaker 2: which I think most managers really like to have in
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Speaker 2: their bullpens.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So many bullpens nowadays are against different matchups certain guys.
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Speaker 4: They want to.
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Speaker 3: Face certain hitters because of how they could potentially match up.
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Speaker 3: If you're a sinker baller, you might want to face
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Speaker 3: a guy that has a little bit more of a
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Speaker 3: choppy type swing. If you've got kind of that high riding,
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Speaker 3: octane fastball, you kind of want more of a guy
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Speaker 3: with a little bit more tilt in his swing. Of course,
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Speaker 3: we can measure all of these things now in baseball,
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Speaker 3: and you can see how they want to start to
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Speaker 3: match up different hitters versus pitchers. And Sandling being from
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Speaker 3: the side reminds me a lot of Adam Simber, who
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Speaker 3: was in Toronto a couple of years earlier had a
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Speaker 3: ton of success, and we played with Darren O'Day in
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Speaker 3: Baltimore who had a I mean an amazing career, throwing
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Speaker 3: like eighty five miles per hour.
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Speaker 4: And one thing about those sidearm guys is I remember.
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Speaker 3: Catching them over and over and over and then facing
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Speaker 3: them in like a spring training kind of mock bp set,
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Speaker 3: and it was unbelievable how different it was to catch
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Speaker 3: them versus hit them. Catching them, I could close my
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Speaker 3: eyes and basically catch with one eye closed, but hitting
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Speaker 3: them it was a totally different look. And I really
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Speaker 3: think that's exactly what what Sandlin brings is.
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Speaker 4: It's a different look. You've got to readjust your eyes,
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Speaker 4: You've got to look a little bit lower. He's not
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Speaker 4: going to overpower.
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Speaker 3: He's not afraid to throw sinkers into rieties, which is
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Speaker 3: what a lot of these kind of sinker ballers need
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Speaker 3: to do from time to time. He's got that big sweeper.
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Speaker 3: He's obviously coming off of a bounce back year. He
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Speaker 3: was injured most of the year in Toronto. When he
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Speaker 3: was healthy, he was very effective, but he was in
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Speaker 3: and then just could not get back. I would out
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Speaker 3: of the first two that we've talked about, I would
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Speaker 3: say Sanlin probably has the best chance to be an
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Speaker 3: impact guy as consistently as anyone in that Angel's wullpen,
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Speaker 3: just because it's a different looking because he's got a
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Speaker 3: lot to prove well.
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Speaker 2: That is certainly optimistic. I think he always looked nasty.
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Speaker 2: Any side armor looks nasty in my opinion these guys,
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Speaker 2: the velocity is somewhat irrelevant. Darren O'Day might have thrown
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Speaker 2: eighty four miles an hour, but that's that is not
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Speaker 2: what makes him difficult to hit. If you can have
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Speaker 2: a guy from that arm angle. And the weird thing is,
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Speaker 2: I think when you're catching your head on, you know
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Speaker 2: you're getting a good look at it with both eyes.
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Speaker 2: When you're in the box, especially for a right handed
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Speaker 2: hitter and a right handed side armor, you have to
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Speaker 2: somewhat In my opinion, the approach became left center and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to open up my stance, which is awfully scary,
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Speaker 2: exposing a lot of yourself to a guy that's coming
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Speaker 2: from that harm angle. But that was the only matchup
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Speaker 2: that I I mean, as a younger player, I know
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Speaker 2: I would have tried to take him the other way,
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Speaker 2: stay inside the ball. The cliches that I think have
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Speaker 2: gone the way that they should. Sometimes they are applicable,
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Speaker 2: no doubt, but at least with the side armors, I
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Speaker 2: never had any success until I started to make some
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Speaker 2: adjustments and actually tried to pull him a little bit.
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Speaker 2: But they are you know that you don't see a
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Speaker 2: lot of them. They always seem to be coming into
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Speaker 2: the game when you least want a weird look type
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Speaker 2: ball game. So he should really help. Miguel Castro has
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Speaker 2: somewhat He's not that far down, but you did catch him.
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Speaker 2: He's a new addition. He hasn't been talked about too much,
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Speaker 2: but we were oriol semates with him. He is, in
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Speaker 2: my opinion, a guy that eats a lot of innings.
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Speaker 2: He's a tough guy. He came up to the big
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Speaker 2: leagues at a very young age, really big stuff, and
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Speaker 2: he's kind of bounced around. But catching him, what do
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Speaker 2: you recall?
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, first of all, he's a Kevin Durant doppelganger.
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Speaker 3: Looks just like Kevin Durant. So Angels fans, I'm sure
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Speaker 3: you'll notice that right out the gate when you see
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Speaker 3: him come into the game.
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Speaker 4: Massive guy, what is like six'.
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Speaker 3: Seven his ankles can't be but this big round He's
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Speaker 3: he's one of those really really, tall lanky.
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Speaker 4: Guys hands are probably twice the size of my. HANDS i,
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Speaker 4: mean his fingers are.
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Speaker 3: Gigantic he can almost put his entire hand around to.
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Speaker 3: BASEBALL i remember catching him in just tremendous movement at tremendous.
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Speaker 4: Velocity he's getting a little bit. OLDER i think his fastball.
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Speaker 3: Kind of more around that ninety four to ninety six
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Speaker 3: mile prior. Range WHEN i had, him he was ninety
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Speaker 3: seven ninety nine with tremendous run in. Sync for, me
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Speaker 3: it's all about his arm angle With. Castro the lower
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Speaker 3: he gets with the arm, angle the more run he.
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Speaker 3: Gets i've never liked run because the bat is longer
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Speaker 3: than it is. WIDER i like stuff moving north south
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Speaker 3: because you've got less barrel to work. With when he
16:55
Speaker 3: gets his arm in a certain, position he can really
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Speaker 3: do some damage because that has tremendous. Sink he's got long,
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Speaker 3: levers meaning his extension is really. Good he's one of
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Speaker 3: those at bats that when you see it face to,
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Speaker 3: face he feels like he's releasing the ball right in
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Speaker 3: front of your, face and it's really tough and, uncomfortable
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Speaker 3: and even though it might register.
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Speaker 4: As ninety, five it's going to perceive and be felt.
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Speaker 3: Like it's ninety eight ninety nine because he's so out
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Speaker 3: there in your.
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Speaker 4: Face but good, sweeper good, Slider he's gonna eat. Innings
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Speaker 4: he's got.
17:28
Speaker 3: A rubber, arm can typically go back to back days
17:31
Speaker 3: without any. Problem, again he is getting a little bit,
17:33
Speaker 3: older BUT i loved. HIM i loved that he came
17:37
Speaker 3: into the game and was not afraid of big. Situations
17:39
Speaker 3: and he's one of those cool guys in the, clubhouse
17:42
Speaker 3: always a smile on his, face but when he gets
17:44
Speaker 3: in between the, lines much Like, romano he turns into
17:48
Speaker 3: a different.
17:48
Speaker 2: Animal another guy that could be a big contributor this.
17:52
Speaker 2: Year we haven't talked about him a, ton AS i,
17:55
Speaker 2: said but a lot of Upside AND i think that's
17:58
Speaker 2: a trend that we're seeing those guys you, know maybe
18:02
Speaker 2: are not coming off their best, years but being given
18:05
Speaker 2: an opportunity to go back, out return to form in
18:08
Speaker 2: a place that you, know quite, honestly is a very
18:13
Speaker 2: good spot for someone that needs to build their. Confidence
18:16
Speaker 2: we've covered a couple of the other guys want to
18:18
Speaker 2: keep it moving just a little. Bit But Jose siri
18:20
Speaker 2: was signed. Yesterday he has some of the stranger Numbers i've.
18:25
Speaker 2: SEEN i pulled up his baseball. REFERENCE i was trying
18:31
Speaker 2: to piece together what Exactly. Now he wasn't a Blue,
18:34
Speaker 2: jay but you have seen him quite a. Bit he
18:36
Speaker 2: seems he was rated as the second fastest guy a
18:39
Speaker 2: handful of years ago in. Baseball he routinely is in
18:41
Speaker 2: the top, ten so he can obviously. Fly his defensive
18:44
Speaker 2: metrics were you, know we use savon a, lot or
18:47
Speaker 2: at LEAST i, do nearly maxed. Out and on the offensive,
18:51
Speaker 2: side he's got some pop in the. Back but there
18:55
Speaker 2: are a couple of. Things the batting average was very,
18:57
Speaker 2: low the on base percentage very, low so he's a
19:02
Speaker 2: very intriguing, guy and center field is pretty much wide.
19:05
Speaker 2: Open they have an excellent defender In Bryce, tiodosio who
19:09
Speaker 2: was called. Up covers as much range AS i can,
19:12
Speaker 2: recall and it really is a special defensive. Player but
19:15
Speaker 2: the bat is a work in, progress SO i think
19:17
Speaker 2: him And SyRI they're both right handed, too so there's
19:20
Speaker 2: not really a natural platoon opportunity. There but what did
19:24
Speaker 2: you see out of A siri when you Saw.
19:26
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't normally say the word raw to describe
19:30
Speaker 3: kind of an older player that has been in the
19:32
Speaker 3: league for more than two or three, years BUT i
19:35
Speaker 3: still feel like that's the best word to describe. Him
19:38
Speaker 3: saw him In, tampa saw him In New, york and
19:40
Speaker 3: just a very raw type of. Player imagine like a
19:43
Speaker 3: high school football player with all these, talents just showing
19:47
Speaker 3: up to a baseball field and doing certain things that
19:50
Speaker 3: you really don't see very, often yet not really excelling
19:53
Speaker 3: in the entire. Package that's to, me That's suri Suriy.
19:56
Speaker 3: Can he's got that kind of collision type approach at the.
19:59
Speaker 4: Plate he can.
20:00
Speaker 3: Run into one and you're going, wow like that was,
20:02
Speaker 3: Amazing like let's do that more. Often and then he
20:04
Speaker 3: could go a month without square in the ball. Up
20:06
Speaker 3: but he's going to make an acrobatic catch in the,
20:08
Speaker 3: outfield he's going to do something crazy on. Defense and
20:12
Speaker 3: that's WHY i think you continue to give guys like
20:14
Speaker 3: that at. Bat So i'm not surprised one bit that
20:17
Speaker 3: The angels are taking a chance on just pure raw.
20:20
Speaker 3: Talent you just never. Know sometimes later on in guys'
20:23
Speaker 3: careers with this type of raw. Ability something. Clicks maybe
20:27
Speaker 3: it clicks for The.
20:28
Speaker 2: ANGELS i think that's a great. TAKE i will Piggyback
20:32
Speaker 2: Trey mancini a little bit later with another, question And
20:36
Speaker 2: siri can be lumped into that as, well because The
20:40
Speaker 2: angels have a new hitting coach THAT i think we're
20:42
Speaker 2: going to want to talk, about at LEAST i, do
20:44
Speaker 2: And i'm hoping to Get brady on the show as.
20:46
Speaker 2: Well But Brady anderson is Who i'm talking. About this
20:49
Speaker 2: is another. TOPIC i think it. Applies it may be
20:53
Speaker 2: a little bit of a stretch for the fans to
20:55
Speaker 2: kind of wrap their head. Around but The Blue jays
20:57
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, four we're seventy four and eighty. Eight
21:01
Speaker 2: they were a last place club in The Al, east
21:04
Speaker 2: AND i don't think a lot went. RIGHT a number
21:08
Speaker 2: of guys had down. Seasons their bullpen quite, honestly looked,
21:12
Speaker 2: awful AND i didn't watch anywhere near as much as,
21:17
Speaker 2: you BUT i know they were not a good ball.
21:19
Speaker 2: Club fast forward a year twenty twenty, five we obviously
21:23
Speaker 2: know that they first place in The Al, east advanced
21:27
Speaker 2: all the way to The World, series and WERE i
21:29
Speaker 2: think an out away from from winning. It that was
21:34
Speaker 2: an incredible the best SERIES i CAN i can, remember
21:37
Speaker 2: And i've seen you, know as many as forty year
21:40
Speaker 2: old has. Seen but incredible was at the first two,
21:43
Speaker 2: games as were, you although we couldn't connect because you're quite,
21:48
Speaker 2: busy quite into the fans love. You so The Blue
21:52
Speaker 2: jays recipe for Success they brought in four free Agents, Santander, Suzer,
21:59
Speaker 2: jimenez And. Stroke they really didn't account for a ton
22:03
Speaker 2: of success one point seven war for those that are
22:06
Speaker 2: interested in. That but what did this team do to
22:11
Speaker 2: turn things? Around how do you go from a last
22:13
Speaker 2: place club to A World series one out away from
22:17
Speaker 2: winning a?
22:18
Speaker 3: Club they really tried to start buying into, contact AND
22:23
Speaker 3: i think Losing santander early in the season they had
22:27
Speaker 3: to rearrange their entire kind of philosophy and thought.
22:30
Speaker 4: Process Most ali's teams.
22:31
Speaker 3: Are they're kind of those teams that they try and
22:34
Speaker 3: slug you out of the. Ballpark and a minute that
22:37
Speaker 3: they lost Some. TANDER i remember talking to hitting Coach David.
22:40
Speaker 3: Hopkins he, said, look we just had to really rearrange
22:42
Speaker 3: kind of what we were thinking about. Doing and they
22:44
Speaker 3: had the personnel to really prioritize contact AND i think
22:47
Speaker 3: in a day and, age they were a leg up
22:50
Speaker 3: in terms of exposing so many bad defenses in the big.
22:54
Speaker 3: Leagues back, when you, know i'd say ten to fifteen years,
22:58
Speaker 3: ago if you couldn't play, defense you didn't play in
23:00
Speaker 3: the big. Leagues, NOW i think over the last, five, six,
23:03
Speaker 3: seven eight, years they're trading defense for some sort of
23:07
Speaker 3: offensive capability that they deem worthy of taking over for
23:11
Speaker 3: bad defenses because there's so many, strikeouts because there's so many,
23:14
Speaker 3: walks because there's really not that many plays throughout a
23:17
Speaker 3: Major league game as there used to. BE i think
23:19
Speaker 3: The Blue jays, said, look we're going to put the
23:21
Speaker 3: ball in play because of.
23:22
Speaker 4: How we're set. Up we're going to see what.
23:24
Speaker 3: Happens and they got buy in really quick from their star,
23:27
Speaker 3: players AND i think that was huge and massive for
23:30
Speaker 3: them that they had to get buy in from their best.
23:32
Speaker 3: Players then once they started to see some of the
23:35
Speaker 3: fruits of that labor and concentrating on putting the ball in,
23:38
Speaker 3: play having less selfish at, bats and with the personnel
23:43
Speaker 3: to do, it they were able to really start. Rolling
23:46
Speaker 3: and they ended up making, it as you, said all
23:48
Speaker 3: the way of The World. SERIES i do think that
23:51
Speaker 3: the biggest thing for, them, though was getting that buy.
23:53
Speaker 3: In and so whatever your philosophy, is you've got to
23:55
Speaker 3: get it from the top. Down and, yes it's a
23:58
Speaker 3: game played by individuals with a team, ofach but you
24:01
Speaker 3: got to have something to hold on to because each
24:03
Speaker 3: and every night you might be asked to do something.
24:05
Speaker 3: Different my, opinion WHAT i saw from them is they
24:08
Speaker 3: really grew as a selfless type of. Team if the
24:11
Speaker 3: situation called to get someone, over they did. It and
24:16
Speaker 3: they were able to really execute certain things that were
24:18
Speaker 3: old school baseball terms and, principles and, hey it.
24:21
Speaker 4: Worked you.
24:21
Speaker 3: Know it took them all the way to The World,
24:23
Speaker 3: series and guess they lost to The, dodgers but they
24:25
Speaker 3: made it and they showed that old school principles still
24:28
Speaker 3: can work and still can play at a high.
24:31
Speaker 2: Level, well they were first in batting, average they were
24:35
Speaker 2: fourth in, Runs they were second best in baseball at
24:41
Speaker 2: not striking out or twenty, ninth but they were eleventh
24:46
Speaker 2: in home, runs thirteenth and. Walks so all of these,
24:49
Speaker 2: things AND i think the Point i'm trying to make
24:52
Speaker 2: is The angels offense lest year was very one. Dimensional
24:55
Speaker 2: in my, Opinion they hit a lot of home, runs
24:58
Speaker 2: but they didn't do a lot else to generate. Rallies start,
25:02
Speaker 2: rallies drive guys, in move guys over those. Elements WHILE
25:07
Speaker 2: i Think Ron washington wanted to incorporate some of, IT
25:10
Speaker 2: i don't know if maybe it's an organizational. Philosophy maybe
25:13
Speaker 2: it's just the guys. THERE i know a lot of
25:16
Speaker 2: them are. YOUNGER i think influenced by some of the
25:20
Speaker 2: trends in the. GAME a lot of guys are incredibly pull,
25:24
Speaker 2: happy AND i think if there, was you, know an,
25:27
Speaker 2: area there's a, few But i'd like to see guys
25:29
Speaker 2: using the whole field, more especially guys Like logan, O'hapi Joe.
25:32
Speaker 2: Adell they have power to all, fields and when you
25:36
Speaker 2: get locked in and trying to pull the, ball especially
25:40
Speaker 2: pull the ball in the, air it can be very.
25:41
Speaker 2: Limiting you're not going to take your hits the other.
25:43
Speaker 2: Way you're not going to stay on some of those
25:45
Speaker 2: off speed. Pitches and they also struck out a. TON
25:49
Speaker 2: i believe they led the league in strikeouts twelve, thirteen
25:53
Speaker 2: fourteen a game at, times and it kind of spirals
25:56
Speaker 2: and The Blue jays didn't do. That you don't get
25:59
Speaker 2: to The World series by striking out fifteen times a.
26:02
Speaker 2: Game it may, happen but when you're facing the best,
26:04
Speaker 2: pitchers you need to have the ability to put the
26:07
Speaker 2: ball in, play and sometimes that is a. Single and
26:11
Speaker 2: you know, WHAT i was always happy with a. SINGLE
26:14
Speaker 2: a base. HIT a base hit in the major leagues
26:17
Speaker 2: is really. Cool remember, that, guys and.
26:20
Speaker 4: To two thousand, ops two thousand. Ops you know? WHAT
26:24
Speaker 4: i Saw trumbo throughout the.
26:28
Speaker 3: YEAR i saw veteran pitchers getting so ticked off trying
26:33
Speaker 3: to navigate their way through The Blue jays lineup because
26:36
Speaker 3: they got so pesky at trying not to strike. Out
26:40
Speaker 3: you would see guys Like Blake.
26:41
Speaker 4: SNeW i remember Watching Justin furlander literally step off the
26:45
Speaker 4: back of the. Mountain was he forty something years, Old
26:47
Speaker 4: he's seen it all In, toronto stepping off the back
26:50
Speaker 4: of the, mountain like shaking his head because he had
26:52
Speaker 4: thrown three perfect sliders To Ernie clement and he wouldn't strike,
26:56
Speaker 4: out and at that point you knew you had him.
26:59
Speaker 4: BEAT i saw it year in year. Out well that's
27:03
Speaker 4: a terrible. Phrase let's try that. AGAIN i saw it
27:05
Speaker 4: day and day out throughout the entire year that they
27:09
Speaker 4: would frustrate these pictures because pitchers are so used to
27:13
Speaker 4: getting to a certain, sequence throwing their best pitch and
27:15
Speaker 4: getting either weak contact or more likely than, not a.
27:18
Speaker 3: Strikeout and they really did something different to those pictures
27:23
Speaker 3: and it was fun to watch kind of the game
27:25
Speaker 3: change just a little bit kind of back to That oh,
27:28
Speaker 3: wow like you can have a lot of success taking
27:32
Speaker 3: what's given to you and then taking your shots when
27:35
Speaker 3: you get. UP i had a coach one time, said,
27:36
Speaker 3: look the first two strikes are. Yours the third strike
27:38
Speaker 3: is the team the team.
27:40
Speaker 4: Strike so if you.
27:41
Speaker 3: Want to go for some loft out, front go, Ahead
27:43
Speaker 3: but once you get to that third, strike then have
27:46
Speaker 3: a good team at.
27:47
Speaker 4: Bat AND i think that's what The Blue jays, did
27:48
Speaker 4: and it was it was fun to watch all season.
27:50
Speaker 2: Long that is fun to. Watch another Thing i'd like to,
27:54
Speaker 2: say if you want a trum, bomb As i've been
27:58
Speaker 2: told to, enjoy no popouts on the first pitch of,
28:01
Speaker 2: it inning tired of. That it's not a good team at.
28:05
Speaker 2: Bat it has no, place at least in my. Game
28:09
Speaker 2: it wasn't something that we were player of my age
28:12
Speaker 2: coming up that was frowned. Upon you either took the,
28:15
Speaker 2: pitch or in the rare case that maybe you did
28:17
Speaker 2: want to go you let The Howie. KENDRICK i can
28:19
Speaker 2: vividly remember telling him at times very few BUT i, said,
28:23
Speaker 2: HEY i might go early here IF i was hitting
28:25
Speaker 2: in front of, him and he would gladly take the
28:28
Speaker 2: pitch on the flip. Side BUT i think it's your,
28:30
Speaker 2: duty sometimes as a leadof, hitter or most every, time
28:33
Speaker 2: to have a somewhat of a team at. Bat you
28:37
Speaker 2: may not be thrilled if you do take a strike
28:39
Speaker 2: down the, middle but it sets up an inning better
28:41
Speaker 2: than a weak infield pop. Up so there it. Is
28:44
Speaker 2: you don't need to comment on, that BUT i think you.
28:47
Speaker 4: MIGHT i love, It.
28:48
Speaker 2: Okay they were also The Blue jays one last thing
28:50
Speaker 2: on the. Team they were fourth in defensive runs, safe
28:53
Speaker 2: so their defense got a lot. Better The angels did
28:56
Speaker 2: not play great defense last. Year it's no. Secret they
28:58
Speaker 2: did turn to one of double, plays but beyond that
29:02
Speaker 2: it was not a. Strength AND i think The Blue,
29:05
Speaker 2: jays no. DOUBT i don't have the stats in front of,
29:09
Speaker 2: me but it seems like they, improved AND i thought
29:12
Speaker 2: maybe it was more pitching and. Defense it turns out
29:15
Speaker 2: in their case it was hitting and, defense as the
29:20
Speaker 2: combined era for The jays was nineteenth and, baseball so
29:24
Speaker 2: they had quality starting, pitching especially in the. Playoffs absolute
29:28
Speaker 2: brilliant performances by a few of those. Guys but it
29:31
Speaker 2: looks like the dynamic offense and the improved defense were
29:34
Speaker 2: actually the keys for that ball. CLUB i want to
29:38
Speaker 2: turn to the last topic THAT i really wanted to
29:41
Speaker 2: get out of the. Way Ken rosenthal wrote a tremendous
29:44
Speaker 2: article the other day covering New angels hitting Coach Brady,
29:47
Speaker 2: anderson and there were quotes by, you and there were
29:52
Speaker 2: some really cool insights into How brady helped you as
29:56
Speaker 2: a minor. LEAGUER i believe you guys connected when you
29:58
Speaker 2: were In DOUBLE, a and he seems to have a
30:01
Speaker 2: very unique ability to get through to guys in the right.
30:07
Speaker 2: Way sometimes it's, mental sometimes it's, physical but he really
30:11
Speaker 2: does a good job of believing in the, player and
30:14
Speaker 2: sometimes that's what it takes just for a guy that's
30:17
Speaker 2: a little bit on the, fence that knows he can
30:19
Speaker 2: play but hasn't had that. REASSURANCE i Think brady is
30:23
Speaker 2: very very good at communicating that to. Guys another guy
30:26
Speaker 2: that we, Signed Trey. MANCINI i saved him for this
30:29
Speaker 2: segment because him And brady are very. Close it's no
30:34
Speaker 2: secret you mentioned in the article as, Well so maybe
30:37
Speaker 2: you could talk about your experiences With, brady and then
30:40
Speaker 2: if you could Incorporate Trey mancini in as, well because
30:44
Speaker 2: you were teammates with him for quite a while AND
30:45
Speaker 2: i know you guys knew each.
30:46
Speaker 4: Other.
30:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sure brady was. INCREDIBLE i remember getting to know
30:51
Speaker 3: him after my third season In DOUBLE. A i broke
30:54
Speaker 3: the game's played record In DOUBLE, a played four years,
30:56
Speaker 3: there and had it not been For Brady, ANDERSON i
30:59
Speaker 3: wouldn't have made the big. Leagues he saw talent in
31:02
Speaker 3: me and solved belief in, me and he started pouring
31:05
Speaker 3: that into. Me AND i felt LIKE i could play
31:07
Speaker 3: in the big, leagues BUT i needed someone who had done,
31:10
Speaker 3: it who had been, there who had experienced, that to
31:13
Speaker 3: tell me THAT i had that ability and really believe in.
31:16
Speaker 3: Me he was that person for me and then gave
31:19
Speaker 3: me very specific goals and ways to attain those goals
31:23
Speaker 3: to then get. THERE i trusted him at worked AND
31:26
Speaker 3: i ended up playing in the big. Leagues he was
31:28
Speaker 3: really big into. Nutrition this was ten twelve years. Ago
31:33
Speaker 3: he was really big into. This he's kind of always
31:35
Speaker 3: been a little bit.
31:36
Speaker 4: Ahead of the.
31:36
Speaker 3: Curve he was into the biomechanics of a lot of
31:38
Speaker 3: different body movements before a lot of this stuff has
31:42
Speaker 3: now been able to be tracked and stuff he was
31:45
Speaker 3: thinking about all of this. Stuff he's a sports, fanatic
31:48
Speaker 3: loves all different types of, sports loves the ins and
31:51
Speaker 3: outs in all the different ways that athletes, perform not just.
31:55
Speaker 3: Baseball he's very eccentric might be the right. Word he's
31:59
Speaker 3: just very open but has his beliefs and so he's
32:03
Speaker 3: able to connect with so many different types of.
32:05
Speaker 4: Players and as you just, mentioned if you've got some.
32:09
Speaker 3: Angel players that are they, believe but they're not totally
32:12
Speaker 3: wholeheartedly all in like Saying mike trout, Is brady's.
32:16
Speaker 4: The kind of guy that can get them to the next.
32:18
Speaker 3: Level he's the kind of coach and teacher that can
32:21
Speaker 3: really take these guys into a different, zone not only,
32:26
Speaker 3: mentally but possibly physically as.
32:27
Speaker 4: Well AND i JUST i love what he.
32:30
Speaker 3: Brings he was a tremendous help getting to see him
32:33
Speaker 3: work with a guy Like Trey mancini who was had
32:36
Speaker 3: a lot of talent but wasn't like a, massive massively
32:39
Speaker 3: high draft pick and then really kind of create his
32:43
Speaker 3: mental fortitude to be able to get into the big.
32:45
Speaker 4: Leagues and start to really perform and help him in
32:48
Speaker 4: so many different.
32:49
Speaker 3: Areas he works with pitchers as, well he knows both
32:52
Speaker 3: sides of the, ball a pretty good batting practice thrower
32:56
Speaker 3: for what it's.
32:56
Speaker 4: Worth that always.
32:58
Speaker 3: Helps but, yeah he's going to be able to do
33:01
Speaker 3: a lot of different things in This angel's kind of,
33:04
Speaker 3: offense so to, speak whether it be preparation and looking for,
33:09
Speaker 3: trends whether it be physically even seeing a weakness in
33:14
Speaker 3: the guy physically and being able to communicate that with
33:16
Speaker 3: the training staff nutritionally, speaking mentally, speaking he can cover
33:19
Speaker 3: a multitude of different. Zones and, YEAH i think getting
33:23
Speaker 3: to watch him work With, tray especially as a younger.
33:25
Speaker 4: Player me being kind of past that.
33:30
Speaker 3: Tutorship if that's even a, word if you, know after
33:33
Speaker 3: like three or four years INTO i can kind of
33:34
Speaker 3: watch him kind of recycle back Around. Trey it was
33:36
Speaker 3: fun to watch him kind of take him under his
33:38
Speaker 3: wing and watch him do his thing with With. Tray
33:41
Speaker 3: AND i think he's got that ability still now to
33:43
Speaker 3: do that with a bunch of These angels, Players so
33:45
Speaker 3: don't be surprised if you see a guy like you,
33:48
Speaker 3: know maybe maybe it Is Joe adele who's been, good not,
33:51
Speaker 3: great but it shows flashes of.
33:53
Speaker 4: Greatness maybe hit a prolonged length of.
33:57
Speaker 3: Really good, PLAY i would, say without, question And brady
34:00
Speaker 3: will have some sort of impact if that.
34:02
Speaker 2: HAPPENS i think it's really interesting Because brady And John
34:06
Speaker 2: maybray are two very experienced baseball. Men they are not
34:12
Speaker 2: the trendy highers that are happening around the. Game and
34:17
Speaker 2: some of these guys have had tremendous. Success David popkins
34:19
Speaker 2: is a younger. GUY i came from The, twins If
34:22
Speaker 2: i'm not, mistaken and had excellent. RESULTS i, mean he
34:26
Speaker 2: really did a very nice. Job BUT i think The
34:28
Speaker 2: angels are going to benefit from an ex player in this,
34:32
Speaker 2: Case i'd like to see more in the. Game it's right,
34:35
Speaker 2: now it's not a popular time for ex players to
34:40
Speaker 2: you don't get. Hired, frankly it is, interesting but The
34:43
Speaker 2: angels have kind of bucked the trend and their entire
34:46
Speaker 2: staff essentially are the opposites of what everyone else is.
34:51
Speaker 2: Doing SO i think MAYBE i know college coaches seem
34:54
Speaker 2: to be also all the, rage but The angels are
34:58
Speaker 2: kind of going against the grain and see how it.
35:00
Speaker 2: Goes BUT i am a big. Fan i've said that
35:02
Speaker 2: previously previous, episodes BUT i think it should be really.
35:05
Speaker 2: Good is there anything ELSE i know that you cover
35:09
Speaker 2: The Blue, jays but The. Angels what do you think
35:13
Speaker 2: is in the? Cards i've SAID i think five hundred
35:16
Speaker 2: would be an excellent goal for a ball club that
35:19
Speaker 2: is trying to work its way back. UP i remember
35:22
Speaker 2: the first TIME i was with The. Diamondbacks we were
35:25
Speaker 2: coming off a very lousy year And tony The. Russa
35:28
Speaker 2: this was the only time we had a meeting at
35:30
Speaker 2: the end of the. Season usually the last game of the,
35:33
Speaker 2: year you pack, up you're, out you, know you say goodbye.
35:37
Speaker 2: Whatever sometimes you do that before the game kind of
35:39
Speaker 2: it's just. Understood we had a team meeting at the
35:43
Speaker 2: end of the year and he, said, look our goal
35:45
Speaker 2: is to be five hundred next. Year AND i, said,
35:48
Speaker 2: wow it was really. INTERESTING i didn't expect, it didn't
35:52
Speaker 2: expect a, meeting BUT i started to wrap my head around,
35:54
Speaker 2: it And i've thought about it in subsequent you, know
35:56
Speaker 2: as the time has gone on AND i said that
35:58
Speaker 2: was really smart because it acknowledges that that is a
36:02
Speaker 2: goal that is. Reasonable you, know if you're a guy
36:05
Speaker 2: that's a career two fifty hitter and you want to
36:08
Speaker 2: hit three twenty might be a little bit, tough you
36:11
Speaker 2: might get discouraged for a team like, this and The
36:13
Speaker 2: Blue jays vastly surpassed. That SO i, think you, know
36:17
Speaker 2: these are my own, Thoughts but what do you think
36:19
Speaker 2: with the club that, is you, know kind of searching
36:21
Speaker 2: for a new, identity what kind of goals would you
36:24
Speaker 2: would you?
36:24
Speaker 3: See, YEAH i like It trump just Because seattle is
36:29
Speaker 3: going to be really. Good don't sleep on The. Athletics
36:33
Speaker 3: can't Say oakland. ANYMORE i MEAN i did that series
36:36
Speaker 3: against The athletics and they've got some sneaky good pieces over.
36:39
Speaker 4: There that first.
36:40
Speaker 3: Basement, KURTZ i think his, name he's, well he's he's
36:43
Speaker 3: a big old. Boy but you just look at the.
36:45
Speaker 3: Division you've Got, houston.
36:46
Speaker 4: They're going to.
36:47
Speaker 3: REBOUND i mean they were WENT mia for the first
36:49
Speaker 3: time in how many.
36:50
Speaker 4: Years, yeah it's a tough.
36:52
Speaker 3: Division it's IT'S i think five hundred would be a
36:56
Speaker 3: very attainable type. Goal you're gonna have to get really
36:58
Speaker 3: nice productions out of a lot a lot of the
37:00
Speaker 3: guys we talked About, romano you, know even some of
37:03
Speaker 3: these new, guys like Even siri coming in maybe doing.
37:05
Speaker 3: Something minoa's gonna have to probably show. Up it's going
37:09
Speaker 3: to be a battle to get to five, hundred but
37:10
Speaker 3: you've got at some point you've got to kind of
37:13
Speaker 3: set a, goal attain, it and then see what you
37:16
Speaker 3: have with not only a branded coaching, staff but with
37:18
Speaker 3: some of these players that are kind of getting to
37:20
Speaker 3: the point of all, right is he one of us
37:22
Speaker 3: or are we going to have to find someone? Else
37:24
Speaker 3: some of these, players in my, opinion in the system
37:26
Speaker 3: are hitting that point where it's, like are we either
37:28
Speaker 3: going to extend you or is your leash running?
37:31
Speaker 4: Out so at five, HUNDRED i think it's a good.
37:33
Speaker 3: Goal tough, division but, look that place is so awesome
37:37
Speaker 3: to play. AT i mean when they play the song
37:40
Speaker 3: and the rally, MONKEY i, mean come, on, like even
37:42
Speaker 3: as a visiting, player it's. Fun it's fun to play,
37:44
Speaker 3: there the weather's, awesome they got cool. FANS i still
37:49
Speaker 3: can't figure out why people don't want to go To
37:51
Speaker 3: anaheim or why AND i can't win you, KNOW i
37:54
Speaker 3: just was not Even Anaheim.
37:56
Speaker 4: La whatever they call it, now you Know Los Angeles. Angels, yeah,
38:00
Speaker 4: yeah so it's, both, right it's. BOTH i really wish.
38:04
Speaker 3: That they could kind of get back into contention because
38:06
Speaker 3: it's fun being able to watch kind of the red
38:09
Speaker 3: and white out.
38:09
Speaker 4: There do.
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Speaker 2: Well, WELL i really appreciate you taking the. Time you
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Speaker 2: provided exactly WHAT i was looking for as the more
38:18
Speaker 2: polished of the two of. Us you are paid to do.
38:21
Speaker 4: This for a little not, true not.
38:22
Speaker 2: True, no that was very nice of. You i'm sure
38:25
Speaker 2: the fans will enjoy. It and thank you for being
38:28
Speaker 2: our guest.
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Speaker 4: Today you got. It thanks for having me