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- 0:00Speaker 1: Season will get underway in nine days and then we
- 0:02Speaker 1: will do a monday morning quarterback like you won't believe
- 0:06Speaker 1: on a thursday we've never done a monday morning quarterback
- 0:09Speaker 1: on a thursday that's in the regular season we're rebels
- 0:14Speaker 1: think about that i think that week we should do
- 0:16Speaker 1: taco tuesday on a friday uh I think we should
- 0:20Speaker 1: do football.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Manic Monday.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Thursday.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Let's have a manic Thursday.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Right. And then we'll have a football.
- 0:26Speaker 1: Instead of a football Friday, we do football Tuesday.
- 0:28Speaker 2: We just whack it off. Just whack it out right
- 0:31Speaker 2: across the board. Shuffle it up.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with us. A lot to react to.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Roster stuff. And, of course, the final preseason game of
- 0:40Speaker 1: the year, a 9-9 tie with the Kansas City Chiefs
- 0:43Speaker 1: on Friday night.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Good morning, Hugh. Good morning. Great to be with you.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent to have you, and there is a lot
- 0:50Speaker 1: to discuss. Let's start with the game, though. Let's begin there,
- 0:53Speaker 1: and I want to talk about Jalen Milrow. He became
- 0:56Speaker 1: the story going into the game. He was going to
- 0:58Speaker 1: play all four quarters. Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought
- 1:02Speaker 1: he looked much better Friday than I've ever seen him,
- 1:06Speaker 1: and he faced all three. First string, second string, third
- 1:09Speaker 1: string defenses today.
- 1:11Speaker 2: On Friday.
- 1:11Speaker 1: He didn't light it up, but I thought he made
- 1:15Speaker 1: a lot of really good throws on Friday.
- 1:17Speaker 2: What did you see? Oh, I couldn't agree more. I
- 1:20Speaker 2: thought he had a big step up. I think it
- 1:22Speaker 2: was needed. I've always thought that probably for any player,
- 1:27Speaker 2: certainly I've thought for quarterbacks, you want to look good.
- 1:32Speaker 2: In the days of four preseason games, if you could
- 1:34Speaker 2: have two good ones, you want them to be the
- 1:38Speaker 2: first one and the last one. The first one, so
- 1:40Speaker 2: that you stay in your plans. And the last one,
- 1:44Speaker 2: that's right before the cuts or they're solidifying the plans, right?
- 1:48Speaker 2: If you're going to play poorly, play poorly in the
- 1:51Speaker 2: middle ones. And I think that he, in that light,
- 1:55Speaker 2: left them with something to feel like, okay, we're making progress.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Compare that to a year ago at Green Bay at
- 2:03Speaker 2: three turnovers, really didn't have a lot of big plays. And,
- 2:07Speaker 2: and you, that was a game where he started the,
- 2:10Speaker 2: and played the entire game. So, so we have that
- 2:13Speaker 2: kind of, you know, capsule to, uh, to compare it to, and, uh,
- 2:18Speaker 2: you know, just much better. I mean, he had eight, uh,
- 2:22Speaker 2: completions over what, what, what the ball in the air
- 2:25Speaker 2: over 10 yards in the preseason, five of them came
- 2:28Speaker 2: against the chiefs. And, uh, you know, he, he, uh,
- 2:31Speaker 2: his average depth, the target, he pushed the ball down
- 2:34Speaker 2: the field. It was 10.4 yards. That's, 2.6 above the
- 2:39Speaker 2: average with a clean pocket, 12 of 17, 147 yards.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Play action, 7 of 9, 103 yards. Of those five completions,
- 2:52Speaker 2: we'll get into those in a minute, but 10 or
- 2:56Speaker 2: more air yards, four of the five were inside the
- 2:59Speaker 2: numbers where you have to do some processing on a
- 3:02Speaker 2: couple of occasions. He's getting– into as late as his
- 3:06Speaker 2: third receiver on that. So I thought his pocket presence
- 3:11Speaker 2: and his response to pressure, he stayed in the pocket
- 3:14Speaker 2: when he should. He had some movement when that was warranted.
- 3:19Speaker 2: And so I think you give him a very good
- 3:22Speaker 2: grade for just how he handled and navigated the pocket.
- 3:26Speaker 2: I thought it was a big step up in his quarterbacking.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Yeah, he even had a touchdown run, and I know
- 3:31Speaker 1: it got brought back by a penalty, but even that
- 3:34Speaker 1: was a good decision, good path, made it look easy.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So even that, I thought, stood out for him, even
- 3:42Speaker 1: though someone committed a penalty on the play.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Well, you watch a lot of tape, and the plays
- 3:50Speaker 2: are constructed where you say, hey, this is a read zone,
- 3:54Speaker 2: or we're having a RPO, and what that means is
- 3:59Speaker 2: is you tell the offensive line, let's say you're going
- 4:01Speaker 2: to run inside zone to the right, just an inside
- 4:04Speaker 2: plunge to the right. But we're not going to block
- 4:08Speaker 2: the alley area outside of the core of the formation
- 4:14Speaker 2: to the left because if they just wash it down,
- 4:18Speaker 2: then you say, quarterback, you have to keep it. You're
- 4:20Speaker 2: part of the blocking scheme. Or throw it to the RPO.
- 4:24Speaker 2: And a lot of these preseason games I watch and
- 4:27Speaker 2: I'm like, we're, we're, you know, quarterbacks are making bad decisions.
- 4:32Speaker 2: They're not, they're not pulling the ball when they need to.
- 4:34Speaker 2: So for him to keep it in the alley, you're right. But, uh,
- 4:37Speaker 2: you know, the, the, the, if I can just touch
- 4:40Speaker 2: on a few of those, those, uh, passes, you know,
- 4:43Speaker 2: I think the, the, uh, Cody white, the, um, the
- 4:47Speaker 2: 40 yard post that's probably on everybody's mind. And remember
- 4:50Speaker 2: in the first quarter from the end zone, that's a
- 4:53Speaker 2: five man rush. The chiefs are playing zone behind it. Usually, uh,
- 4:57Speaker 2: Teams play three deep, three under. There's a little bit
- 4:59Speaker 2: more of a proliferation of too high. Football coaches will
- 5:04Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, where there's a palms coverage,
- 5:07Speaker 2: where it's complicated, where the corners, they can either be
- 5:10Speaker 2: in the flat, depending if there's somebody in the flat,
- 5:13Speaker 2: or they can back off and race out of there
- 5:15Speaker 2: if everything goes vertical. Anyways, because it's just six guys
- 5:23Speaker 2: instead of seven in the zone, the defense kind of
- 5:26Speaker 2: has to match some guys. So to Milrow's left, he's
- 5:30Speaker 2: got Montori Foster going on a deep over-the-ball sit-down. That
- 5:36Speaker 2: eats up the safety to his left, Milrow's left. So
- 5:40Speaker 2: now he's looking at Cody White, and he's got to
- 5:42Speaker 2: beat the corner and the safety to his right. But
- 5:46Speaker 2: in the covers that I described, and there's a purpose
- 5:49Speaker 2: to it, that backside corner can fall off. So as he's,
- 5:53Speaker 2: as Milrow is looking to his right and he's saying, oh,
- 5:56Speaker 2: I like how he beat that safety. Let me flatten
- 5:58Speaker 2: the ball away from him. And that would be the
- 6:00Speaker 2: perfect angle. No, no, no, not that backside corner from
- 6:04Speaker 2: the other side could fall into the play. So there's
- 6:07Speaker 2: a more of a precise location that he had to
- 6:10Speaker 2: put that ball. He put it there. And you get
- 6:12Speaker 2: 40 yards. You know, he comes back and he hits
- 6:16Speaker 2: Elijah Roy on a glance route from under center play action.
- 6:20Speaker 2: He goes to his right five steps. Now, the ball
- 6:24Speaker 2: was on the minus 44-yard line, the Seahawks 44-yard line.
- 6:29Speaker 2: He ends up getting 24 yards wide. because he has
- 6:33Speaker 2: this footwork where he stops, he doesn't take a hitch,
- 6:36Speaker 2: he's perfectly balanced, he takes no steps in his throw,
- 6:40Speaker 2: he gets the ball on Arroyo early. The ball is
- 6:44Speaker 2: caught at the opposite 41-yard line, and because the timing
- 6:49Speaker 2: was right, because his feet were right, now the nickel
- 6:52Speaker 2: that comes at Arroyo is just a little later, there's
- 6:55Speaker 2: a little bit more time for Arroyo to sidestep him,
- 6:59Speaker 2: make him miss, so he catches at the 41, he
- 7:02Speaker 2: doesn't get tackled to the 31. So if Milrow would
- 7:07Speaker 2: have got the completion had his feet been a little
- 7:10Speaker 2: bit off and he was a little late, but he
- 7:14Speaker 2: gets 10 more yards on the completion because Arroyo's able
- 7:18Speaker 2: to make a guy miss because the ball's on him quickly.
- 7:21Speaker 2: On the Montori-Foster dig route, The anticipation he had, he
- 7:30Speaker 2: had the left tackle, right tackle, and the right guard
- 7:33Speaker 2: get walked back into his pocket. He just stands there
- 7:35Speaker 2: impervious to it, throws an anticipatory play in between what's
- 7:40Speaker 2: called the hook defenders. Think of like the second baseman
- 7:43Speaker 2: and the shortstop. Now, they're a lot tighter, but as
- 7:47Speaker 2: you come into the window in between them, you got
- 7:50Speaker 2: to turn that ball loose. So his anticipation was better
- 7:53Speaker 2: than what we've seen. Two more. He throws to Henderson
- 7:57Speaker 2: on a dig. This is cover zero. There's no safety, right? Now,
- 8:04Speaker 2: credit the Seahawks. They did get a hat on a hat.
- 8:06Speaker 2: They had six guys to block, and all six of
- 8:09Speaker 2: them picked somebody up. But there's a lot of things
- 8:12Speaker 2: closing in on him. So he makes it as a
- 8:15Speaker 2: right-handed quarterback. He closes his hip and goes to his left.
- 8:18Speaker 2: If you freeze the tape right there, the defense is
- 8:22Speaker 2: well on the path to winning the play. That's like
- 8:25Speaker 2: the pitcher being in an 0-2 count. At this point,
- 8:31Speaker 2: this is going to be hard. But he takes a
- 8:34Speaker 2: couple steps to his left, and then he flips his
- 8:37Speaker 2: hips around, gets back into the throwing position for a
- 8:40Speaker 2: right-handed quarterback with a guy bearing down right in his face.
- 8:44Speaker 2: He throws this in route to Henderson, and Henderson makes it. Now,
- 8:49Speaker 2: the ball was a little high. Henderson makes a great
- 8:52Speaker 2: play on the ball, catches it, decline the penalty, get
- 8:56Speaker 2: 26-yard gain down to the one-yard final one. He goes
- 9:02Speaker 2: play action under center to his left. Now he's got
- 9:05Speaker 2: his turn. Because he's going to his left as a
- 9:08Speaker 2: right-hand quarterback, he turns his back to the defense. It's
- 9:10Speaker 2: cover one. It's man-to-man, and there's a slot shake route.
- 9:15Speaker 2: A shake route is a post corner. From the left side,
- 9:19Speaker 2: he's going to go into the post, then breakout back
- 9:22Speaker 2: to the corner, man-to-man press. So he has to hold
- 9:25Speaker 2: the ball a little longer. It's not late. It's not
- 9:28Speaker 2: really early, but it's not late. But because he had
- 9:31Speaker 2: to hold the ball, the center eventually takes an L.
- 9:34Speaker 2: The nose tackle's coming right, bearing right at him and
- 9:37Speaker 2: gave him a nice little rib shot after he threw it.
- 9:39Speaker 2: But he throws on man coverage, you know, got to
- 9:43Speaker 2: keep a guy on the move over to the left sideline.
- 9:46Speaker 2: That's the one that was outside the numbers. All the
- 9:48Speaker 2: other four were inside the numbers. And, you know, not
- 9:53Speaker 2: a perfect pass. I grade accuracy on a scale of
- 9:57Speaker 2: zero to five, with five being like... like dinner plate accuracy,
- 10:02Speaker 2: hit a target the size of a dinner plate. I
- 10:04Speaker 2: wouldn't give it a five. Maybe it's a four, but
- 10:08Speaker 2: it was enough. And it was damn impressive. And what
- 10:12Speaker 2: did I have the air yards? 26 air yards on
- 10:15Speaker 2: a 30-yard completion with a guy– with a nose tackle
- 10:18Speaker 2: bearing down on you. So very impressive plays, um, really
- 10:22Speaker 2: all the way around. So, you know, big step forward
- 10:25Speaker 2: for the, uh, the third string quarterback.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yeah. Just like poise. Like he didn't seem rattled in
- 10:29Speaker 1: the pocket and he just delivered his throws, even on
- 10:33Speaker 1: the touchdown. I know it was an easy touchdown to Vinette, um,
- 10:37Speaker 1: wide open, but. I mean, a rookie might rush that.
- 10:41Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 10:42Speaker 1: But he just seemed to, all game long, just kind
- 10:45Speaker 1: of feel comfortable and relaxed. They say the game slows
- 10:49Speaker 1: down for you. And to me, I think the game
- 10:52Speaker 1: slowed down for Jalen Melrose this week.
- 10:56Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent observation. I agree with you.
- 10:59Speaker 2: He looked like it felt natural. He had a hook
- 11:03Speaker 2: route that I didn't describe out where he smoked it out.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Was that to Foster, but to his left side work?
- 11:09Speaker 2: He obviously showed his arm strength because he doesn't have
- 11:15Speaker 2: to have a big crow hop and he doesn't need
- 11:17Speaker 2: to have his body entirely behind the throw. He can
- 11:20Speaker 2: just kind of stand there and then snap his hips
- 11:24Speaker 2: and generate a lot of velocity. He smokes a hook route,
- 11:29Speaker 2: as I said, in anticipation. Just everything looked comfortable to him.
- 11:34Speaker 2: And I think exactly what you just said, I'm not
- 11:36Speaker 2: sure I can add to it. He did look. uh,
- 11:39Speaker 2: very naturally poised, you know, that, that touchdown that you,
- 11:42Speaker 2: you talk about, obviously when you see a guy wide
- 11:45Speaker 2: open like that, that's, that's, that's Brian Flory. Like you
- 11:48Speaker 2: just won that. That's an offensive coordinator win against the
- 11:52Speaker 2: D you know, Spagnola's on the other side. Right. Um,
- 11:56Speaker 2: but when you get a guy that wide open, uh,
- 11:59Speaker 2: through the, the combination of the routes, uh, the formations,
- 12:03Speaker 2: what have you, uh, guy standing wide open in the,
- 12:06Speaker 2: in the end zone, uh, credit the offense coordinator which
- 12:09Speaker 2: immediately caused me to think back to the uh the
- 12:12Speaker 2: cowboy game on the fourth down down at the one
- 12:16Speaker 2: yard line where that i looked at that i called
- 12:18Speaker 2: that that's just a mess in fact we talked on
- 12:21Speaker 2: monday and uh after that game or whatever the day
- 12:23Speaker 2: was after the game and uh you know i just
- 12:26Speaker 2: said whoa that that play call uh was that that
- 12:31Speaker 2: for a new a first-time play caller i'm like because
- 12:35Speaker 2: you watch the tape there's nobody open and And it
- 12:38Speaker 2: wasn't really great defense. It was just, you know, poorly constructed. Anyways,
- 12:42Speaker 2: for him to get his quarterback a wide-open touchdown like that,
- 12:48Speaker 2: you got to credit Flory as well. But, yeah, very,
- 12:51Speaker 2: very good showing for– and there were some drops in
- 12:54Speaker 2: there too. Yeah. So very good showing for Milrow. I
- 13:00Speaker 2: think the path, if we kind of take the helicopter
- 13:04Speaker 2: and raise up and we say, okay– Drew Locke is
- 13:06Speaker 2: in his last year in the con of the contract.
- 13:09Speaker 2: I think what the Seahawks want is for Milrow to
- 13:12Speaker 2: be the number two next year. And that, that path
- 13:17Speaker 2: was in jeopardy up until Friday night. I feel like
- 13:21Speaker 2: they think, okay, maybe we got this thing back on
- 13:24Speaker 2: the highway instead of the exit ramp, um, on the plan. Yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Uh, well, 16 to 26, 223 yards, a touchdown, uh,
- 13:33Speaker 1: no interception. So, uh, Nice work for Jalen Milrow. Hugh
- 13:37Speaker 1: Millen is with us Monday morning, quarterback session, final preseason
- 13:41Speaker 1: game in the books, a 9-9 tie with the Kansas
- 13:44Speaker 1: City Chiefs. We're going to get into more of the
- 13:46Speaker 1: roster moves later on in the hour, but I want
- 13:49Speaker 1: to talk about one other thing from the game itself,
- 13:51Speaker 1: and that is, do we have a kicker problem? We
- 13:55Speaker 1: touched upon it last week. I expressed a little bit
- 13:57Speaker 1: of concern, and we didn't see if there was an
- 14:01Speaker 1: adjustment made It's that he had been pushing everything to
- 14:06Speaker 1: the right, and he decided, here's my adjustment. I'm going
- 14:09Speaker 1: to miss to the left. I'm going to hook one
- 14:10Speaker 1: grossly to the left. So what are you seeing with
- 14:15Speaker 1: Jason Myers right now? And with nine days until the
- 14:20Speaker 1: first game, can you get this thing fixed in practice
- 14:23Speaker 1: in the next.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Week and a half? Well, I think the concern is
- 14:28Speaker 2: not nothing. I mean, he's a pro. He's been very good.
- 14:32Speaker 2: He'll probably get it right. But I would be chewing
- 14:36Speaker 2: on my nails a little bit harder if this game
- 14:40Speaker 2: against the Patriots comes down to a needed field goal.
- 14:44Speaker 2: I mean, look at the preseason. He had makes of
- 14:48Speaker 2: 48 and 46 yards. He missed a field goal in
- 14:51Speaker 2: every game, 45 in the first one, then 44, then
- 14:56Speaker 2: 52 that would have won it the other night. Extra points.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Now he missed an extra point against the Titans. It
- 15:04Speaker 2: was 48 yards due to a penalty. How about the
- 15:08Speaker 2: other night? Was it fourth quarter and you got a
- 15:12Speaker 2: chance to go up 10-9? That's a game-winning extra point.
- 15:16Speaker 2: We just pull it. I don't even know if it's
- 15:20Speaker 2: short enough to be called a hook. He just pulled
- 15:23Speaker 2: it left. I'm concerned because kickers as a, as by default,
- 15:29Speaker 2: they're just emotional butterflies. So I'm always, uh, you know,
- 15:33Speaker 2: concerned how the wind's going to catch them, um, in,
- 15:36Speaker 2: in some regard emotionally. And, you know, I'd say ball
- 15:39Speaker 2: flight wise too, um, you know, having held just kind
- 15:45Speaker 2: of watching how these guys, you know, well, I helped
- 15:47Speaker 2: for some good ones. Jeff Jagger at Washington, Jason Elam
- 15:50Speaker 2: at the Broncos was a, you know, multiple pro bowl
- 15:54Speaker 2: type player. Um, And watching other guys and sitting in
- 15:58Speaker 2: special teams meetings and what have you. And it's my
- 16:01Speaker 2: belief that the most reliable ball flight is a slight draw.
- 16:06Speaker 2: This should surprise nobody. Think about, you know, if you
- 16:09Speaker 2: can get a golfer, get a nice high draw like
- 16:12Speaker 2: a Greg Norman. Maybe I'm dating myself on that one.
- 16:15Speaker 2: But but but a high draw on off the leg
- 16:18Speaker 2: of a kicker. you know, just kind of starts right
- 16:21Speaker 2: center and then pulls, uh, uh, just, just draws left.
- 16:24Speaker 2: I mean, that's what Harrison Bucker, that's exact ball flight
- 16:28Speaker 2: that Harrison Bucker had on his, uh, on his 69
- 16:32Speaker 2: yard field goal last weekend. Yeah. Not 59, 69. Right. And,
- 16:36Speaker 2: and so, so I think it's more reliable. It gives
- 16:39Speaker 2: you best distance. Um, and, and we haven't seen that
- 16:43Speaker 2: kind of ball flight. We're seeing like the ball, going
- 16:46Speaker 2: at the target and then having some weird fade. And,
- 16:49Speaker 2: and it's just, those are harder to, to predict. Um,
- 16:54Speaker 2: now he's had pushes and low pushes and high pushes and, and, and, uh,
- 16:59Speaker 2: you know, fades as I'm describing. So he had all
- 17:02Speaker 2: kinds of wonky ball flight. This preseason. Now, you tell me.
- 17:07Speaker 2: I'm happy to play by any rules you want. If
- 17:09Speaker 2: you say the rules are we don't care anything about preseason,
- 17:13Speaker 2: I'm happy. I'm not going to push back. Yeah, you're right. Okay.
- 17:16Speaker 2: All right. Then my analysis is who cares what he did?
- 17:19Speaker 2: He's ready to go win the game winner with five
- 17:21Speaker 2: seconds to go from 49 yards against the Patriots, obviously,
- 17:25Speaker 2: because he was a good kicker last season. That's a
- 17:28Speaker 2: fair take. I'm not going to– I don't feel strongly
- 17:32Speaker 2: about this, but I– I'm kind of surprised a kicker
- 17:38Speaker 2: this good. The Seahawks go 0-2-1 in the preseason. You
- 17:44Speaker 2: could easily argue, just say, if we kick the ball right,
- 17:47Speaker 2: they're 2-1. Until he makes a couple field goals, get
- 17:56Speaker 2: back in a groove, and until he makes somewhat of
- 17:58Speaker 2: a pressure kick, doesn't have to be the game winner
- 18:01Speaker 2: with three seconds to go. It could be 12 minutes
- 18:04Speaker 2: to go in the fourth quarter when you kind of
- 18:06Speaker 2: need it. There's varying levels of need and importance, and
- 18:11Speaker 2: so I think he's got to get his mind right.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be mental. I mean, he's not
- 18:15Speaker 1: kicking that way in practice and just saying, you know,
- 18:18Speaker 1: I've done enough today. I know I can't make a
- 18:19Speaker 1: field goal, so I'm going to go home. You know
- 18:22Speaker 1: that he's getting the results he wants during practice, and
- 18:27Speaker 1: then we've gotten into the game so far this year,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and they're just preseason games. Not a lot of pressure
- 18:31Speaker 1: in these games. And yet, and yet he's, he's missing
- 18:35Speaker 1: and he's missing badly. And yeah, I do register it.
- 18:38Speaker 2: As a concern. Well, when, when you're, I mean, come on,
- 18:41Speaker 2: you're it, it's nine to nine and you score a
- 18:45Speaker 2: touchdown and you say, okay, we, we just kick, we
- 18:47Speaker 2: kick this extra point. Um, you know, the way defense
- 18:50Speaker 2: is playing, this is, this is a game winning extra
- 18:52Speaker 2: point and you were going to win. We're going to
- 18:54Speaker 2: win this thing, 10 and nine. We're going to go, yay,
- 18:57Speaker 2: we're going to get on the plane and fly back,
- 18:59Speaker 2: and then we kind of feel a little better about ourselves.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And then you just pull it. So at any event,
- 19:05Speaker 2: I think it's a concern more than nothing. And then
- 19:11Speaker 2: you tell me how much we could be concerned, and
- 19:13Speaker 2: I'll agree with you.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon is with us. Monday morning quarterback session. A
- 19:17Speaker 1: lot to discuss today. Certainly we've got the game. Certainly
- 19:22Speaker 1: we've got roster decisions. And we kind of have a
- 19:25Speaker 1: combination of the both as well. So we'll continue our
- 19:28Speaker 1: conversation next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Hey, great morning. to you all.
- 19:51Speaker 1: It is Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you here
- 19:53Speaker 1: on this Monday. So much to discuss here today. We
- 19:58Speaker 1: have our QB1 on with a Monday morning quarterback session
- 20:00Speaker 1: wrapping up the final preseason game, which of course bled
- 20:04Speaker 1: right into Sunday, where the Seahawks set their 53-man roster
- 20:09Speaker 1: to begin the year, even though there's probably going to
- 20:11Speaker 1: be some changes made between now and next Wednesday. Uh,
- 20:15Speaker 1: right now they have committed to the, uh, 53 man roster.
- 20:19Speaker 1: We've been talking about it all morning long, but we
- 20:21Speaker 1: haven't been talking about it with Hugh Mellon. And so, uh,
- 20:23Speaker 1: let's get our QB ones thoughts. Uh, just, uh, I
- 20:26Speaker 1: don't want to point you in any direction. Um, uh,
- 20:28Speaker 1: what your, what is your biggest or biggest couple takeaways
- 20:32Speaker 1: from seeing the roster?
- 20:34Speaker 2: I think as I, I perused down at the first
- 20:37Speaker 2: thought to me was there's only two healthy safeties. Uh,
- 20:42Speaker 2: now Eamon worry, um, He falls into the safety category. Obviously,
- 20:47Speaker 2: he's not considered healthy today. But I kind of view
- 20:53Speaker 2: him more the Sam linebacker, nickel Sam. Many people call
- 20:58Speaker 2: it the star. But I don't think of him as
- 21:03Speaker 2: a back-end safety like Okada and Julian Love. So there's
- 21:07Speaker 2: only two back-end safeties. That's odd to me. You know,
- 21:11Speaker 2: the corner... situation has been, you know, newsworthy to say
- 21:16Speaker 2: the least, uh, the way it's been revolving and all the,
- 21:19Speaker 2: you know, the, and I look, I look at the roster,
- 21:22Speaker 2: I go, Avery Smith, how the hell did I miss that?
- 21:25Speaker 2: You know, like, like what, you know? And so, um, the,
- 21:29Speaker 2: the trade acquisition from the chargers went back and tried
- 21:32Speaker 2: to watch some tape. Uh, you know, I, I think
- 21:35Speaker 2: that's interesting that, Did.
- 21:38Speaker 1: You find any?
- 21:39Speaker 2: Could you find any? Yeah, I watched some tape of
- 21:41Speaker 2: him with the Chargers, and he had 141 snaps, which
- 21:48Speaker 2: is a lot of snaps, right? 52 were on the outside.
- 21:52Speaker 2: Everything else was some form of being on the inside.
- 21:55Speaker 2: So I think that's a factor, which is– it makes me–
- 22:02Speaker 2: pause about, not pause in a critical way, but I
- 22:06Speaker 2: just find it interesting the way the NFL operates. And
- 22:09Speaker 2: none of this is, again, to be construed as a critique. Hell,
- 22:13Speaker 2: John Snyder's the best GM in football. But you go
- 22:18Speaker 2: all season, preseason rather, and Andre Fuller was lining up
- 22:23Speaker 2: as the nickel. You know, with Eamon Warrior, you had
- 22:26Speaker 2: a lot of guys line up there. You know, Rodney
- 22:29Speaker 2: Thomas was back. D'Anthony Bell was a nickel. you have
- 22:32Speaker 2: these guys in camp and then at the end of
- 22:35Speaker 2: the camp, you say, you know, there's, there's a, there's
- 22:39Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent down there with the chargers that
- 22:43Speaker 2: I think would be better. Let's get, let's part with
- 22:45Speaker 2: a sixth rounder instead of, you know, Andre Fuller who,
- 22:50Speaker 2: who we drafted, you know, you know, it's just that, that, and, and,
- 22:54Speaker 2: you know, look, that's where you're chasing edges. You know,
- 22:57Speaker 2: if this guy comes in and does something for you,
- 23:00Speaker 2: you say, you know, he was probably coming, you know,
- 23:03Speaker 2: coming at the end of August, you know, he's probably,
- 23:06Speaker 2: I'm holding my finger an inch apart. He was probably
- 23:08Speaker 2: that much better, but somehow they, they identified it. They,
- 23:12Speaker 2: they saw it and they think that they thought he
- 23:14Speaker 2: was that much better of an upgrade. So they go
- 23:17Speaker 2: ahead and make the acquisition. So, so I think the,
- 23:20Speaker 2: at least defensively where they were in the secondary is
- 23:24Speaker 2: what kind of, Grab my attention at first. Yeah.
- 23:28Speaker 1: The three safeties, two of them healthy. And then you
- 23:32Speaker 1: have five cornerbacks that were kept. One of them's not healthy.
- 23:37Speaker 1: One of them's brand new. And the other one was
- 23:40Speaker 1: pretty much criticized all camp long and Nehemiah Pritchett.
- 23:45Speaker 2: And then you only have three running.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Backs on the roster as well with only one that
- 23:50Speaker 1: we know of that is healthy right now. I suppose
- 23:55Speaker 1: all three are healthy. We just know that two of
- 23:59Speaker 1: them were held out all preseason partly because of health reasons.
- 24:04Speaker 1: To me, it seems like you've got small numbers and
- 24:08Speaker 1: not great health at three different critical positions here.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Yeah, the running back one didn't grab me as much.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Just because of how you want to go into a
- 24:22Speaker 2: game actively. Brady Russell, you would say he's a tight
- 24:28Speaker 2: end fullback. Technically, you could say he's a back, you know,
- 24:32Speaker 2: that would push it into four. You know, there's a
- 24:34Speaker 2: special teams part of it. I mean, to have three
- 24:37Speaker 2: active ball carriers seems right. Now, I think that you
- 24:42Speaker 2: need somebody on the practice squad or somebody available in
- 24:45Speaker 2: the event of an injury. But if you were going
- 24:47Speaker 2: to line up and play, if you had to play
- 24:52Speaker 2: the Patriots tonight, if Price is healthy and Emmanuel Wilson
- 24:57Speaker 2: is healthy, healthy and George Helani is healthy. Uh, you
- 25:02Speaker 2: don't need all three of those. And all three of
- 25:04Speaker 2: those were active. I mean, I haven't, you know, gone
- 25:07Speaker 2: through the minutia of, of all of the special teams rosters.
- 25:10Speaker 2: I'll kind of wait to see how that plays out,
- 25:13Speaker 2: but you know, that's obviously a factor, but that, that
- 25:16Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me, but to only have two, two safeties
- 25:21Speaker 2: on your roster that are backend safeties, um, That surprises
- 25:28Speaker 2: me more. Right. But you do make a point about
- 25:31Speaker 2: the running backs. I mean, we've done a lot of
- 25:34Speaker 2: talking over the last couple weeks about where they are
- 25:37Speaker 2: at the running back position. And you just kind of
- 25:40Speaker 2: hold your breath. And Jadarian Price, remember now, he was
- 25:43Speaker 2: the backup to Jeremiah Love at Notre Dame. You're asking
- 25:48Speaker 2: him to take on a workload that he's never taken
- 25:52Speaker 2: on at big-level football. I'm sure he was probably– The
- 25:56Speaker 2: primary guy in high school, I haven't dug deep on that.
- 26:00Speaker 2: But he wasn't at Notre Dame. So anyways, he's your
- 26:03Speaker 2: starting halfback. And the guys behind him, I think this.
- 26:08Speaker 2: I'm concerned that there's not really what jumps out to
- 26:12Speaker 2: me as a number two running back. I think that
- 26:15Speaker 2: there's a couple of number three running backs. And, of course,
- 26:19Speaker 2: Charbonnet is certainly– you know, he's a quality number two.
- 26:24Speaker 2: So until he comes, there's a concern there, the number two,
- 26:29Speaker 2: the depth at running back. I'd say the same thing
- 26:32Speaker 2: for wide receiver. You tell me who's the number two.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Because as I look at the roster, I don't think
- 26:39Speaker 2: any of them have established themselves where you would say, okay,
- 26:46Speaker 2: that's a guy that we feel solid about as number two. Now,
- 26:49Speaker 2: if you look at the contract and and what have you,
- 26:51Speaker 2: you'd say, well, Shahid's going to be a number two. Okay,
- 26:55Speaker 2: that's a fair take. But have we seen him perform
- 26:57Speaker 2: like a two? No. Not in a Seattle uniform. I
- 27:02Speaker 2: lean toward Cup as the two. I don't think he's
- 27:05Speaker 2: a two at this stage in his career. I think
- 27:08Speaker 2: he's a three, four. Now, his understanding of the game,
- 27:14Speaker 2: and he's had a great preseason season, So, yeah, he
- 27:18Speaker 2: could be a two. There's a bunch of guys that
- 27:20Speaker 2: could be. Torrey Horton could be. You know, I think
- 27:25Speaker 2: it'd be asking a lot to say Montori Foster is
- 27:27Speaker 2: going to be a two, so I'm not going to
- 27:28Speaker 2: throw him in there. But between Horton and Shahid and Kup,
- 27:32Speaker 2: all of them, you know, none of them would shock
- 27:37Speaker 2: anybody if they emerged as a two, but you could
- 27:41Speaker 2: also make a corresponding argument that you're a little bit
- 27:46Speaker 2: concerned about the fact that they're not going to perform
- 27:49Speaker 2: like a two. So in any event, now I don't
- 27:52Speaker 2: feel that way about the tight ends. I feel like
- 27:57Speaker 2: there's real depth at tight end. But receiver, there's nobody
- 28:04Speaker 2: that's jumping out at me and you go, wow, this
- 28:06Speaker 2: guy's a real solid number behind JSN. You feel like
- 28:10Speaker 2: you have two legit, If you're trying to win a
- 28:13Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you'd like to feel like you've got two
- 28:18Speaker 2: guys in the top, I don't know, 30 or 40
- 28:25Speaker 2: in the league. But we'll see how it plays out.
- 28:29Speaker 2: All right.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Who's somebody in our last minute or so here? And
- 28:33Speaker 1: if we need to carry it over into the next segment,
- 28:35Speaker 1: we'll do that. Um, but who are you happy for?
- 28:38Speaker 1: Like on the roster? It was like somebody like, I
- 28:40Speaker 1: am glad that guy made the roster and I wasn't
- 28:43Speaker 1: sure he was going to. Well, I would say the
- 28:46Speaker 1: guy that the answer to that question. Now I'm going
- 28:50Speaker 1: to admittedly say that I've been all over the board
- 28:52Speaker 1: on this guy. When Cody white, I, I meant to
- 28:55Speaker 1: look it up. What year, whatever year it was down
- 28:58Speaker 1: in San Diego. I remember just going, man, who's Cody white.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Yeah. And I remember him running a go route up
- 29:04Speaker 2: the right sideline. He got like three yards of separation.
- 29:08Speaker 2: The quarterback wasn't even looking. I think it was Sam
- 29:10Speaker 2: Howell wasn't even looking at him. And I'm like, whoa,
- 29:14Speaker 2: who's this guy? And then if you go back to
- 29:18Speaker 2: his game against the Cowboys two weeks ago, It was awful. Terrible.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Like I'm looking, I'm going, wait a minute. I once
- 29:26Speaker 2: had high hopes for this guy. He's kind of been
- 29:29Speaker 2: in the league and he just has not stepped up.
- 29:34Speaker 2: And the difference between Cody White against the Cowboys two
- 29:39Speaker 2: weeks ago and Cody White Friday against the Chiefs is
- 29:43Speaker 2: night and day. Friday against, he catches that slant route
- 29:47Speaker 2: on what Mike Holmgren would call lion, the double slant.
- 29:52Speaker 2: It was a body on him. He just looked like
- 29:54Speaker 2: a professional receiver, big-bodied professional receiver. That was good-looking football. Now,
- 30:00Speaker 2: it was third and long. They had to punt, but
- 30:02Speaker 2: it's a good play. How he fought for the ball,
- 30:04Speaker 2: strong hands over the middle to run after the catch. Obviously,
- 30:12Speaker 2: completing the play on the post route for 40 yards.
- 30:17Speaker 2: But it wasn't just that. I mean, he had a
- 30:18Speaker 2: comeback where he didn't get the ball, but the way
- 30:23Speaker 2: he stemmed and then accelerated on the corner, dropped his hips, accelerated.
- 30:28Speaker 2: And I'm going, whoa, that's a top flight route.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Who is that?
- 30:31Speaker 2: I'm like, 82. And, you know, big body guy. I
- 30:35Speaker 2: honestly think his legs were either dead. Against the Cowboys
- 30:40Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know. Maybe his girlfriend broke up
- 30:43Speaker 2: with him. Something crazy happened. But he looked like a
- 30:48Speaker 2: legit guy. And, of course, when we're talking about Torrey
- 30:51Speaker 2: Horton and his status and we're talking about Jake Bobo's out,
- 30:58Speaker 2: Cody White needed to step up. And because I think
- 31:02Speaker 2: he's going to catch footballs. I think this is not
- 31:04Speaker 2: just a special teams thing. I think he's going to
- 31:06Speaker 2: be neat. He's a big guy. The way that Seattle
- 31:09Speaker 2: wants to squeeze the formations, let him fold up inside
- 31:13Speaker 2: and be a blocker, presumably with his body, he can
- 31:16Speaker 2: do some of that stuff. So if he gets a
- 31:20Speaker 2: little nastiness in him, that he can accomplish that. So
- 31:26Speaker 2: I think that that was probably the biggest step up. uh,
- 31:30Speaker 2: in the summer for me.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, of course he didn't make the 53 man, um,
- 31:35Speaker 1: probably will be brought back and there might be an
- 31:37Speaker 1: opening there. Uh, but, um, they're trying to keep him
- 31:40Speaker 1: on the roster, but yeah, that was a night and
- 31:43Speaker 1: day sort of difference between, um, the, the previous game
- 31:47Speaker 1: and then a Friday night's game for Cody white.
- 31:50Speaker 2: All right. Okay. Well, maybe I'm going on off of, uh, uh,
- 31:53Speaker 2: old information. I, I, what I had read that, that
- 31:56Speaker 2: he made it. So in any event, We'll see. Maybe
- 32:01Speaker 2: they bring him back. But I can still hold to
- 32:05Speaker 2: my analysis that Friday night he was a much better receiver.
- 32:09Speaker 2: And given the state of the affairs, I think that
- 32:13Speaker 2: somehow he's going to merge. All right. More with you.
- 32:16Speaker 1: We've got a lot more ground to cover. We'll cover
- 32:18Speaker 1: it with our QB1 on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Hey,
- 32:30Speaker 1: thanks for being with us here on this Monday. We
- 32:32Speaker 1: are Monday morning quarterbacking with our Monday morning quarterback star,
- 32:36Speaker 1: the QB1 himself, Hugh Mellon. Coming up at 9 o'clock,
- 32:39Speaker 1: we're going to go through the entire Seahawks 53-man roster.
- 32:43Speaker 1: We'll zip through the position groups, get Hugh's reaction pretty
- 32:46Speaker 1: much to the whole enchilada. Coming up here at 9
- 32:50Speaker 1: o'clock this morning during this special segment that we wrap
- 32:57Speaker 1: up the preseason. But I got like four or five
- 32:59Speaker 1: minutes here, and I wanted to ask you, you know,
- 33:02Speaker 1: obviously the Los Angeles Rams are being touted as the
- 33:06Speaker 1: runaway favorites to win it all this year, and I
- 33:09Speaker 1: just wanted to get your thoughts on this day now
- 33:11Speaker 1: that we know Aaron Donald is going to be a
- 33:13Speaker 1: part of this Rams team. Your thoughts about them adding
- 33:20Speaker 1: a guy that's been retired for a couple of years,
- 33:22Speaker 1: but Two years ago was also he retired with a
- 33:25Speaker 1: lot of gas left in that tank. So your thoughts
- 33:28Speaker 1: this morning now that we know Donald's.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Back with the Rams? Well, it's a load. I mean,
- 33:34Speaker 2: look at the Rams. Since we last played them, Seahawks
- 33:38Speaker 2: last played them, they've acquired Trent McDuffie, who's been first-team All-Pro.
- 33:42Speaker 2: They acquired Myles Garrett, who's got more sacks. uh, in
- 33:47Speaker 2: the history of the NFL under age 30, uh, than
- 33:50Speaker 2: anybody ever. And actually it's not even close. And then
- 33:54Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, who, you know, eight time first team all pro, uh, and,
- 34:01Speaker 2: and the year that he didn't get that he was
- 34:03Speaker 2: Ricky of the year. Um, and you know, a guy that,
- 34:08Speaker 2: I mean, I've done 28 drafts, Chuck for KJR and,
- 34:12Speaker 2: and studied these guys and, you know, hopefully I've had a, uh,
- 34:16Speaker 2: a W or two to offset it, but the Ls
- 34:19Speaker 2: kind of stick with me. And I got to tell you,
- 34:23Speaker 2: like Reuben Foster, for example, this is the most violent
- 34:26Speaker 2: player I've ever seen. He goes to the 49ers. Now, injuries,
- 34:28Speaker 2: I get a little bit of an asterisk on him.
- 34:31Speaker 2: But Aaron Donald is my number one. Millen, you are
- 34:36Speaker 2: just asleep at the wheel. Get your head in the game.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Aaron Donald went right past me. He was the 13th
- 34:42Speaker 2: pick of the Rams. And now I think he is,
- 34:45Speaker 2: if you ask me, the defensive players that I've ever seen,
- 34:49Speaker 2: I guess when things are in fours, you always have
- 34:53Speaker 2: to say Mount Rushmore, right? So I'll play the game.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Like Lawrence Taylor, here's my Mount Rushmore defensive players. Lawrence Taylor,
- 35:01Speaker 2: Reggie White. We've got to throw Deion in. We'll put
- 35:04Speaker 2: in a secondary guy, Deion and Aaron Donald. He's in
- 35:06Speaker 2: the top four defensive players I've ever seen. Wow. And
- 35:11Speaker 2: the best defensive tackle, the most disruptive. It's just insanity
- 35:16Speaker 2: what the kind of career that he had. To say
- 35:18Speaker 2: he's a first-ballot Hall of Famer would be the all-time understatement. So, yeah,
- 35:27Speaker 2: that's who they've added. He turned 35 in May. You
- 35:33Speaker 2: just kind of hope that maybe Father Time took a
- 35:38Speaker 2: few chunks out of him that pull him down to
- 35:43Speaker 2: immortal status. But the idea of Miles Garrett on one
- 35:47Speaker 2: side and him, yeah, it's going to be a load.
- 35:48Speaker 2: It's going to be a problem. I can't imagine not,
- 35:52Speaker 2: unless indeed the time off and the age really has
- 35:54Speaker 2: caught up to him.
- 35:55Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he will not get double teamed this year,
- 36:01Speaker 1: I would think.
- 36:02Speaker 2: For the first time in his career? Well, it depends
- 36:06Speaker 2: on how you do it. I can draw you up
- 36:09Speaker 2: a situation where you're double-teaming, leave a tight end in,
- 36:12Speaker 2: double-team Myles Garrett, and then have the center and the
- 36:15Speaker 2: guard double-team Aaron Donald. He'll be double-teamed, and Myles Garrett
- 36:20Speaker 2: will be double-teamed, and there'll be plays where they're both double-teamed. Right.
- 36:25Speaker 2: But then that leaves, they got some other guys on
- 36:28Speaker 2: that team as well that can come can get after you.
- 36:32Speaker 1: So, um, but it's not like seagulls on a bread
- 36:35Speaker 1: truck at the beach.
- 36:37Speaker 2: That's the way it was before, you.
- 36:39Speaker 1: Know, that's the way it's been his entire career. There's
- 36:43Speaker 1: like three guys on him and they're not going to
- 36:46Speaker 1: be able to afford that. And so I think that's
- 36:48Speaker 1: part of the reason why he's coming back. He's like,
- 36:51Speaker 1: I would like to play in the national football league
- 36:53Speaker 1: without facing a double triple team, every single snap and
- 36:56Speaker 1: see what I can do.
- 36:58Speaker 2: It's, it's a fair point. Um, and, And, you know,
- 37:01Speaker 2: I just probably think– well, he's getting $ 20 million. That
- 37:05Speaker 2: would be another reason why he would come back. But,
- 37:08Speaker 2: you know, he didn't have to go through training camp.
- 37:10Speaker 2: You know, this is– you know, he skillfully played Aaron Donald. Yeah,
- 37:13Speaker 2: you know, signed, you know, on this date. So– but
- 37:19Speaker 2: I think he probably wants– you know, he sees– well, hell,
- 37:22Speaker 2: they're everybody's favorite to win the Super Bowl. Is the
- 37:26Speaker 2: Super Bowl not being played in L.A. again? I think
- 37:29Speaker 2: it is, yeah, yeah. And that's where they won their
- 37:31Speaker 2: last one, right, in 2021, and they went in at home. So, yeah,
- 37:36Speaker 2: he probably wants to get in on the fun again. Yeah, well,
- 37:39Speaker 2: let's try to keep him from that.
- 37:41Speaker 1: All right, Hugh Millen is with us. It's Monday morning quarterback.
- 37:45Speaker 1: We do have a roster now set, at least for now.
- 37:48Speaker 1: It could even change by opening day, of course, because
- 37:52Speaker 1: there are some injuries, players with injuries on the 53-man roster.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Uh, right now.
- 37:57Speaker 1: And so, uh, we're kind of going to go through
- 37:59Speaker 1: the entire roster. I mean, we're going to have to
- 38:01Speaker 1: do a fast, uh, but just kind of get a
- 38:03Speaker 1: thought from Hugh on each of the position groups that
- 38:06Speaker 1: have made this final roster. We're going to try to
- 38:09Speaker 1: pull that off next sports radio, 93.3 KJR FM.