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Beyond Attachment Quizzes: A First Look at Our New Relationship Tool | E9 · The Dr. Sarah Hensley Show

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  Speaker 1: People aren't random. They're incredibly predictable. This is a show
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  Speaker 1: about the science of human behavior, relationships, emotional healing, and
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  Speaker 1: the hidden patterns running our lives that most of us
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  Speaker 1: don't even realize exist. Because once you see the pattern,
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  Speaker 1: you can finally change it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah Hensley.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm Raina Butcher.
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  Speaker 1: You think your life is random. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Dr. Sarah Hensley Show.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Hensley has been teaching people about attachment for years, and
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  Speaker 2: we all know that there's been an influx of people
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  Speaker 2: on the internet teaching people about attachment that aren't necessarily credible. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what if I told you that here at the Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Hensley Relationship Coaching Services, we're about to take attachment
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  Speaker 2: to the next level. We're about to create an evolutionary
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  Speaker 2: tool that makes attachment possible. more than just awareness and
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  Speaker 2: more information. So what is it, doc?
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  Speaker 1: We are going to make the science of attachment and
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  Speaker 1: the tools that actually bring you into secure attachment doable, gamified,
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  Speaker 1: and right in the palm of your hand.
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  Speaker 2: How exciting. Guys, we can't tell you everything yet because
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  Speaker 2: this is not a new development, of course, but it's
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  Speaker 2: something that is- It's being developed. Yes, we're developing it
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  Speaker 2: as we speak. In real time. But it's just so
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  Speaker 2: incredibly exciting because based on last week's episode, please go
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  Speaker 2: back and listen to that. Doc really talked about some
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  Speaker 2: complex science around attachment. And what this tool is going
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  Speaker 2: to do is it's going to allow you to measure
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  Speaker 2: actual situations in real time and then create data So
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  Speaker 2: give you feedback on those circumstances so that you can
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  Speaker 2: actually begin to change it and give the nervous system
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  Speaker 2: new experiences.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. So we talked last time about sort of
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  Speaker 1: the scientific components of attachment, internal working models, attentional bias, wounds.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about the cognitive and affective schemas. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about the behavior execution piece. all of those things are
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  Speaker 1: going to be included in this app. Figuring out what
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  Speaker 1: yours are, what is your attachment style? What are your patterns?
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  Speaker 1: What are your internal working models? What are your subconscious wounds?
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  Speaker 1: And then way, way, way beyond that, putting the tools
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  Speaker 1: in an app that one are very interactive or what
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  Speaker 1: we call gamified. So you put information in, you get
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  Speaker 1: information back out. It, tracks your progress, gives you insight,
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  Speaker 1: and allows you to really, one, hold yourself accountable for
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  Speaker 1: doing the work. Two, see the trends and how you're changing. Three,
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  Speaker 1: make it so user-friendly that it doesn't feel inconvenient to
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  Speaker 1: do the work. It's sitting right there on your phone
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  Speaker 1: in the palm of your hand and you can make
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of time each day. Four, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to allow you to eventually, at some point, link it
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  Speaker 1: with your partner. So if you want to hold your
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  Speaker 1: partner accountable for doing the tools, you'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: export their metadata, which is not their private thoughts and experiences,
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  Speaker 1: but how much are they engaging with the tools? How
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  Speaker 1: much time did they spend on them each day? You know,
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  Speaker 1: are they doing the work? Um, for example, the conflict
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  Speaker 1: resolution plan, call it the no fail plan, or we've
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  Speaker 1: named it the one, one, one plan, kind of like nine, one, one,
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  Speaker 1: but one, one, one, one problem, one partner.
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  Speaker 2: One day.
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  Speaker 1: Um, All the steps are there. It can walk you
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  Speaker 1: through the plan together as a couple. It can allow
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  Speaker 1: you to log your responses, log solutions that you came
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  Speaker 1: up with. And that gets rid of the, well, you
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  Speaker 1: said you would do this. No, I didn't. I never
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  Speaker 1: said it that way. Well, guess what? The app is
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  Speaker 1: going to record what you guys actually said and decided.
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  Speaker 1: So it holds everybody accountable to what happened. So there's
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  Speaker 1: no rewriting history, rewriting the past. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to give you positive reinforcement so that you want
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  Speaker 1: to keep going. and it's going to allow you to
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  Speaker 1: see this beautiful change unfold in yourself and in your relationship.
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  Speaker 1: And whether it's just yourself doing the work or you're
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  Speaker 1: doing it with a partner, the app is going to
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  Speaker 1: be for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And tell our listeners, because something you often say
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  Speaker 2: that we all know is that these attachment quizzes are
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  Speaker 2: bogus and they're crap. So let's talk to our listeners
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  Speaker 2: about how this is different and where... you're going to
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  Speaker 2: take it to the next level in terms of scientifically.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So there's only a few scientific ways to actually
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  Speaker 1: measure attachment and categorize somebody's attachment style. One is what
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  Speaker 1: we call a quantitative measure, which it's a questionnaire that
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  Speaker 1: has questions and there's a numerical scale associated with those questions.
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  Speaker 1: So you kind of rate your score. Maybe it's like,
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  Speaker 1: one not true of me to seven very true of me.
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  Speaker 1: So you'd rate your agreement with the question one to
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  Speaker 1: seven of how true it is of you and your behavior.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's different sets of questions that maybe represent
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  Speaker 1: their own little mini assessments within one big assessment. And
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  Speaker 1: depending upon the assessment, there's a certain way you have
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  Speaker 1: to score it. So generally those are copyrighted, those are
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  Speaker 1: held by people with licenses, and they have to be
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  Speaker 1: given to you by someone with a license and scored
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  Speaker 1: by someone and interpreted by someone with a license. So
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  Speaker 1: you can't just Google it and take the questionnaire, right?
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of these creators have these marketing funnels
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  Speaker 1: where they just made up questions because they're relying on
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  Speaker 1: their audience to not know that that's not scientific, that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really measure anything. It's more of just like a
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  Speaker 1: clickbait marketing funnel. Because if you look at the fine print,
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  Speaker 1: it says like, this doesn't really measure anything. It's for, quote,
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  Speaker 1: educational purposes only. In my practice, I use the adult
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  Speaker 1: attachment interview, and I also kind of do my own
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  Speaker 1: little semi-structured interview after that to poke around and get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more information. And that's what we call
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  Speaker 1: a qualitative assessment. Qualitative mean words. So you ask people
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  Speaker 1: about certain things, and you look for certain identifiers or
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  Speaker 1: indicators in their responses. And sort of the pattern that
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  Speaker 1: it shows you helps us understand attachments. Then we have
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  Speaker 1: a third way, which is self-identification. And currently, that's what
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  Speaker 1: hybrid group will get you with my help. So I
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  Speaker 1: explain attachment. You get it in the course. You get
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  Speaker 1: it in the workbook. You get it in me in
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  Speaker 1: class explaining it. And then your job is to sort
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  Speaker 1: of be like, okay, I think I fit here. And then,
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  Speaker 1: of course, you have access to me or Coach Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: to sort of say, hey, am I on the right
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  Speaker 1: track here? Is this really where I fit and fall?
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  Speaker 1: And if there's any nuances or complexities, then you have
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  Speaker 1: us there, right, to help you. I am creating my
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  Speaker 1: own quantitative measure called the Adult Relationships Inventory. I've already
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  Speaker 1: built it. It's going through what we call internal review
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  Speaker 1: board analysis, which is anytime you do any type of
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  Speaker 1: research at all in the United States of America, it
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  Speaker 1: has to go through what's called an IRB or an
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  Speaker 1: internal review board. It's the ethics board for research. So
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  Speaker 1: it has to be approved. So I have to get
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  Speaker 1: approval essentially from the government, quote, to... create this scale
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  Speaker 1: and give it out to people. And so it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be essentially on the app, but it's in what
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  Speaker 1: we call like beta test mode. So in assessment creation,
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  Speaker 1: we have to create the questions, give it out to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, bring it back, analyze the data,
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  Speaker 1: look at what questions may have not fit very well,
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  Speaker 1: what questions might not correlate with the other questions well,
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  Speaker 1: look and see if the scale is correlated with other
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  Speaker 1: measures of attachment, like what someone self-identified as. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different tests we have to do. Then we
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  Speaker 1: create a second version of the scale or a revised
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  Speaker 1: version of the scale, and we give it out to
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people. And we kind of do that
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  Speaker 1: for many iterations until we get our final scale. So
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  Speaker 1: through this app, which we are calling Attachment OS or
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  Speaker 1: Attachment Operating System, people will be able to take the RE,
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  Speaker 1: the Adult Relationships Inventory, and also self-identify their attachment. And
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  Speaker 1: then through those two things, We will eventually be refining
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  Speaker 1: the RE over time and give people a very accessible, open, non-copyrighted, non-registered,
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  Speaker 1: basically behind a closed door, right, way of taking a
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  Speaker 1: test to get their attachment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's credible.
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  Speaker 1: That's credible, reliable, valid. Mm-hmm. scientific, et cetera, which currently
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  Speaker 1: does not exist for people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How unbelievably exciting is that?
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  Speaker 1: It is exciting.
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  Speaker 2: And I know it's kind of like a long game, right?
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  Speaker 1: It is the long game because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: complicated science that happens between giving people the initial questions
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  Speaker 1: and coming up with the final assessment.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and anything worth doing always takes an ample amount
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  Speaker 2: of time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we want to make sure that we do it right.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah. because we want it to be accurate.
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  Speaker 1: We want people to take it and then to go,
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is definitely my attachment style. Or if
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  Speaker 1: I do have some complexity or nuance, that is also
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  Speaker 1: measured in this scale. So it will have measures of
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  Speaker 1: trauma overlay and things that can be nuances to attachment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and another reason this is so great is that
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  Speaker 2: because in coaching sessions, now you're gonna have real measurable data, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like tables and that this app will create based on
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  Speaker 2: the information that you input that you can bring into
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  Speaker 2: coaching sessions and have more facilitation from your coach versus
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  Speaker 2: just more information. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll be, you know, if you want to do
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  Speaker 1: any kind of individual coaching and, you know, I can
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  Speaker 1: have access to your data and say, okay, well, Here's where,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you were supposed to be doing your nervous
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  Speaker 1: system regulation work every week. And, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that on here. And here's why maybe you're still
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  Speaker 1: struggling because you're not engaging like you should be engaging
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  Speaker 1: with these tools. Or if they want to send me
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  Speaker 1: their thought journal and they're like, I'm having trouble, you know,
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  Speaker 1: reframing these things and their metacognitive exercises. It's like, OK, well,
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  Speaker 1: let me take a look. Right. It'll be an easy
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  Speaker 1: way to communicate with your coach to show them your progress,
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  Speaker 1: your data. And then what I think is going to
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  Speaker 1: be eventually extremely helpful is when people do go through
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  Speaker 1: my hybrid group, sometimes one person is very dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: doing the work and the other person is just not.
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  Speaker 1: They say that they will, but they don't follow through.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a way that their partner can be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you tell me you're keeping these journals. You tell me
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  Speaker 1: you're sitting there doing your nervous system work every day.
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  Speaker 1: You say that you're doing these exercises. Show me the proof.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Send me your metadata. Yeah. Which tells you how much
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  Speaker 1: you've engaged with the app and where you've engaged with it.
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  Speaker 2: And then they're able to set boundaries based on the
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  Speaker 2: boundary ladder that also exists, that will also exist within
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  Speaker 2: the app.
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  Speaker 1: It will also be in the app.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they'll give you, again, like if you need help
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  Speaker 1: with a boundary, what's the appropriate boundary here? The app
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  Speaker 1: is going to help you figure that out. The app
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  Speaker 1: is going to help you log what you said and
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  Speaker 1: how long you've been in that boundary space and how
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  Speaker 1: you felt in that boundary space. And it's going to
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  Speaker 1: do so much.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait. Although like, you know, mentally I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: another project.
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  Speaker 1: I know right now is sort of, um, VP of operations.
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  Speaker 1: And so operationally, this is a really big task.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but it's exciting, you know, I mean, um, there's
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  Speaker 2: been moments in the transition, you know, cause we've made
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  Speaker 2: lots of changes guys, as some of, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you've been following along long enough where, you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: recently switched over to a new domain. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's no longer the love dog.com it's drsarahhensley.com. And Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Hensley has a very, very, very, very big digital footprint here.
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  Speaker 2: So transferring one brand to a new brand, to a
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  Speaker 2: new domain, to a new operation system has been crazyville,
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  Speaker 2: to say the least. And I'm just trying to keep
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  Speaker 2: my nose above water here and just with technical difficulties
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  Speaker 2: and all of that. And then on top of that,
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  Speaker 2: of course, we transitioned to our own podcast studio where
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  Speaker 2: we've had to just, you know, figure things out as
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  Speaker 2: we go. And I try to stay in that mindset
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  Speaker 2: that we've talked about many times, you know, when I
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  Speaker 2: tend to crash out.
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  Speaker 1: One problem at a time.
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  Speaker 2: One problem at a time, but gratitude. One problem at
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  Speaker 2: a time and gratitude.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, there's... For what you're already given, what
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  Speaker 1: you already have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just having the ability, right? Having the mind
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  Speaker 2: to be able to, like, today I get to get
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  Speaker 2: up and solve problems that some people will never have
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to solve and therefore learn about. And what
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  Speaker 2: a beautiful gift that is. Like some people are doing
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  Speaker 2: boring work, you know, some people are doing fulfilled by
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  Speaker 2: or purposeful. You know, some people are working at factories
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  Speaker 2: and not to put that work down. That work is important.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: They might not feel emotionally fulfilled doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Those mundane tasks can get burnt out too.
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  Speaker 1: Although I fantasize about that kind of work. I know.
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  Speaker 1: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: You said one day.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I just want to punch out plastic
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  Speaker 1: for a living or something. Give me something where I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to think so hard.
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  Speaker 2: I told Josh I was going to go work at
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  Speaker 2: Trader Joe's next.
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  Speaker 1: Stacking the bakery items.
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  Speaker 2: Anything. Just saying hi to people.
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  Speaker 1: Hi. hi, how are you today? So all of those,
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  Speaker 1: all types of work can have joys and benefits and
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  Speaker 1: things to be grateful for. So we're just trying to
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  Speaker 1: find what can we be grateful for in our own
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  Speaker 1: challenges and our own jobs that we have.
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  Speaker 2: But this project feels purposeful. That's my point. This project
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  Speaker 2: feels so purposeful because it's about operational stuff. That shit's boring, right?
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  Speaker 2: The technical stuff, that stuff gets, that weighs on your brain,
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  Speaker 2: but that's not about are people. And when it becomes
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  Speaker 2: about the people, that's when it feels good. And that's
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  Speaker 2: when I start to be like, okay, this is exciting
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  Speaker 2: because this is something we can give people that is
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  Speaker 2: truly going to change the trajectory of their relationships.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to change the trajectory of their relationships
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  Speaker 1: because they're going to have everything they need to be
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  Speaker 1: doing to both build their capacity and execute secure behavior
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  Speaker 1: right in the palm of their hand.
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  Speaker 2: And have data to support it.
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  Speaker 1: Data to support it, immediate feedback, tracking. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: wear an aura ring, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Because I want to wake up every day and be like,
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  Speaker 1: how did I sleep? And, you know, when did it
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  Speaker 1: show I was stressed yesterday? And, you know, what's my
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  Speaker 1: heart rate variability? Like, I like the data. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: data person. And so if you track anything on an app,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you track a period on an app. I track
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  Speaker 1: it on my app. Like, that is where we're moving to, right?
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  Speaker 1: Where we want to make evidence-based decisions.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to give you clear and convincing evidence
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  Speaker 1: of the state of your emotional health, your relational health,
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  Speaker 1: as well as tools to help you grow and succeed
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  Speaker 1: in becoming healthier and really give you real-time feedback to
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  Speaker 1: make that a lot easier journey. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And again, like I said at the beginning, in a
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  Speaker 2: world where the influx of information is overwhelming, it's overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it creates this confusion when you do
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  Speaker 2: try to decide who to go with or what to
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  Speaker 2: do next. But this is a tool that really just
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  Speaker 2: narrows it down enough to where you can think, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't more information overload. I'm not just going to
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  Speaker 2: create more awareness from this. I haven't, we all, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we all got enough awareness. I mean, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to say everybody, but I feel like again, the influx
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  Speaker 2: of information tends to be so overwhelming that you get
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  Speaker 2: decision fatigue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or that you can't move. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And information that contradicts each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you do? Like, for example, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that have made big time careers off
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  Speaker 1: of just going, you know what? Here's what you deserve.
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  Speaker 1: You deserve this kind of relationship. You deserve this kind
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  Speaker 1: of love. They give you zero information about how to
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  Speaker 1: create a nervous system that both wants that, can receive that,
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  Speaker 1: can attract that. Like, what do you mean? Like, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I deserve it. That's like, great. Thanks for telling me that.
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  Speaker 2: But how do I get there?
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  Speaker 1: How do I get there? How do I get out
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  Speaker 1: of the mess that I'm in right now? Whether that's
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  Speaker 1: this ball of anxiety or I'm in a bad relationship, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: how do I, what are the steps? What are the tools?
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  Speaker 1: What am I supposed to be sitting here actually doing
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  Speaker 1: every single day to make myself better? That is what
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  Speaker 1: is going into this app.
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  Speaker 2: Enough why and what we want to know how it's
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  Speaker 2: the how.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what we're going to give you guys. Um,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't want to give too much away because
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  Speaker 2: we're still working out the logistics, of course. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to have a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: We're going to have a challenge, and we're going to
• 17:19
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• 17:24
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• 17:28
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  Speaker 2: out to become a part of this challenge.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is you're going to be both, you're going
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to be the first users of the app. So you're
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: going to be like the beta testers and you're going
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to get heavily rewarded for being that beta tester. You're
• 17:59
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• 18:02
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• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Basically being the beta testers.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll even bring somebody on the podcast. Absolutely. Yeah.
• 18:13
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• 18:16
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• 18:18
  Speaker 2: as a prize. That would be kind of fun, actually. Yeah.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to have lots and lots of prizes that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: really include heavy coaching intervention for you or your particular relationship.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Again, without giving all the details away, just
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: stay tuned for those very exciting things. Is there anything else?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: When we were having our call the other day with
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: our subcontractor that's helping us create this, shout out to
• 18:42
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• 18:47
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• 18:50
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• 18:53
  Speaker 2: from the Lord. I mean, I'm not kidding. He has
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: just completely been so patient. If I could say anything
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: about Kyle, he is so incredibly patient in my moments
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of sort of freak out. He has, I just, I'm
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: extending gratitude there. But is there anything else, when we
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: were having our call the other day and you were
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: spouting off all that science, and I'm just like, wow,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this is so fascinating. You know, is there anything else
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you really want to add that you think our audience
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: needs to know about this new upcoming evolutionary tool and attachment?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's going to separate evidence-based work
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: from bull crap.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: It's as simple as that, guys.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to separate evidence-based tools, which means that there
• 19:48
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• 19:51
  Speaker 1: know change people from the bullcrap mumbo jumbo generic abstract
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: advice that you might otherwise run into.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah and then you know she's not going to gatekeep
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it either i'm not going to gatekeep it i'm not
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: My mission is to heal the world.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, and maybe that's a grandiose mission, but do
• 20:12
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• 20:14
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• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do for one what you wish you could
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: do for many. I actually think that Dolly Parton may
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: have said that, RIP Dolly. And so, yeah, guys, stay tuned.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I know this was a short episode, but we just
• 20:26
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• 21:10
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