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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome in. Today, we're ditching the tourist traps and postcard
- 0:02views for something a little.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Different, a little darker, a little more intense.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. We're talking about the crimes and criminals that
- 0:10have left their mark on South Dakota. You know, you
- 0:13might be thinking South Dakota, that's Mount Rushmore Country, that's
- 0:15going to be one of the most peaceful states in
- 0:17the US.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Right right, wide open spaces, quiet prairies, peaceful scenery.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Exactly. But like every state out there, even South Dakota
- 0:27has a dark side.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Every state has its secrets.
- 0:29Speaker 1: And today we're diving headfirst into those secrets, uncovering the
- 0:33stories that shocked small towns and captivated the entire nation.
- 0:38Speaker 2: These are the cases that really make you think about
- 0:40the darkness that can hide beneath the surface, you know,
- 0:43the potential for good and evil that exists in us.
- 0:45Speaker 1: All absolutely, and to guide us through this journey into
- 0:48the underbelly of South Dakota, we've got our resident true
- 0:51crime expert back with us again.
- 0:53Speaker 2: It's amazing how these stories, these individuals can capture our
- 0:56imaginations even decades later.
- 0:58Speaker 1: It's like we're drawn to the miss the darkness of
- 1:01it all.
- 1:01Speaker 2: So where do we even begin with a state like
- 1:04South Dakota.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Let's start with the case is really Stuck with Me,
- 1:08a case that shook the community of Sioux Falls to
- 1:10its core. Robert Leroy Anderson, the duct tape killerilling nickname,
- 1:16Yeah it is. In the mid nineteen nineties, Anderson terrorized
- 1:20Sue Falls. He kidnapped and murdered two young women, Larissa
- 1:24Domanski and Piper Streil. And it wasn't just the brutality
- 1:28of the crimes, it was the way he did at
- 1:30the duc tape. He used it to bind and silence
- 1:33his victims.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Like that one detail just etches itself into your mind.
- 1:37Speaker 1: It's those little things that really get under your skin, right,
- 1:39like something so ordinary becoming a symbol of something so horrific.
- 1:43Speaker 2: And for investigators, those little details, that's what we call signatures.
- 1:47They're invaluable.
- 1:48Speaker 1: So it's not just about catching the bad guys, about
- 1:50understanding them right exactly.
- 1:51Speaker 2: We want to know what makes them tick, what drives
- 1:54them to commit these horrific acts.
- 1:57Speaker 1: So, in Anderson's case, what was it about the duck tape?
- 1:59What did that tell investigators about him?
- 2:01Speaker 2: Well, the meticulous use of the duct tape. It pointed
- 2:03to a need for control, a desire to completely dominate
- 2:07his victims.
- 2:08Speaker 1: It's almost like they're trying to exert their power in
- 2:10a way to control the situation completely.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Sadly, that need for control often goes hand in hand
- 2:15with these types of crimes, and for Anderson, his story
- 2:18ended in a prison cell where he ultimately took his
- 2:20own life.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Which, of course brings up a whole other set of
- 2:23questions about justice and whether someone like that can ever
- 2:26truly escape the consequences of their actions. But for now,
- 2:30let's shift gears a bit from the confines of Sue
- 2:32Falls to a name that echoed throughout the entire nation.
- 2:37John Dillinger.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Now there's a name that conjures up all sorts of images.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. Jillinger may not have been a South Dakota native,
- 2:43but his crime spree left its mark on the state.
- 2:45I'm talking about that infamous bank robbery and Sue Falls
- 2:49back in March of nineteen thirty.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Four, March sixth, to be exactly, March.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Sixth, nineteen thirty four. Yeah, Dillinger and his gang hit
- 2:55the bank just three days after he'd broken out of jail.
- 2:58Talk about bold, and not just any jail. He escaped
- 3:01from Crown Point using a fake gun. Stuff of legends,
- 3:04it really is, yeah, And I think that's part of
- 3:06what made Dillinger so fascinating to the public. He was
- 3:09this charismatic outlaw living life on his own terms.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Especially during the Depression era, people were struggling. They were
- 3:15looking for someone to root for, even if that someone
- 3:17was a bank robber.
- 3:18Speaker 1: He was like a real life Robinhood.
- 3:20Speaker 2: To some exactly robbing from the rich and powerful, even
- 3:23if he wasn't exactly giving it to the poor.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Right. He was a master of his own image too,
- 3:28I mean escaping from jail with a wooden gun, posing
- 3:32for pictures with law enforcement. The man knew how to
- 3:35work the media.
- 3:36Speaker 2: He understood the power of perception, and he used it
- 3:38to his advantage.
- 3:39Speaker 1: But Dillinger's story reminds us that behind the legend, behind
- 3:44the headlines, there were real victims.
- 3:46Speaker 2: People whose lives were forever changed by his actions.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And that's something we can't forget as we delve deeper
- 3:52into South Dakota's criminal past, because for every John Dillinger,
- 3:55for every headline grabbing case, there are countless others that
- 3:59don't get the same tension stories of ordinary people caught
- 4:02in extraordinary circumstances.
- 4:04Speaker 2: And those stories, those less told tales, they often revealed
- 4:07just as much about human nature and the dark side
- 4:09of the American dream as the more famous cases.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Exactly, and in South Dakota, those stories are often intertwined
- 4:15with the state's unique history and the fight for justice
- 4:19that continues to this day. And some of these lesser
- 4:22known cases they can be even more disturbing in a
- 4:25way because they highlight the darkness that can exist in
- 4:28everyday life.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Absolutely, like the case of.
- 4:30Speaker 1: Eric Robert Okay, yeah, Eric Robert.
- 4:32Speaker 2: So in two thousand and five, he was convicted of kidnapping, right.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Right, kidnapping, and then what happened while he was in prison, Well.
- 4:40Speaker 2: He actually, during an escape attempt in twenty twelve, he
- 4:44killed a correctional officer at the South Dakota State Penitentiary.
- 4:47Speaker 1: It's a reminder that even within the walls of a prison,
- 4:50violence can still erupt and that those who work in
- 4:52law enforcement really do put their lives on the line
- 4:55every single day.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah right about that. It's a dangerous job. And speaking
- 4:59of dangerous jobs and difficult situations, let's talk about a
- 5:02case that's really sparked a lot of debate over the years,
- 5:05the case of Leonard Peltier.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Leonard Peltier, Okay, yeah, this is the name I've heard before,
- 5:10but I'll be honest, I don't know all the details.
- 5:12Speaker 2: It's a complex case for sure. It goes back to
- 5:14nineteen seventy five on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. There
- 5:18was a confrontation between two FBI agents and they were killed.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Oh wow, So two FBI agents dead.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Yeah, and Leonard Peltier, an activist for Native American rights,
- 5:29he was convicted of their murders.
- 5:31Speaker 1: So he was found guilty of killing both agents.
- 5:33Speaker 2: That's right, two consecutive life terms.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Wow. And this case is still controversial today. Why is that.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Well for a lot of reasons. Some people believe that
- 5:42Peltier didn't get a fair trial, that the evidence against
- 5:45him was weak or even planted.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Oh so there are some who believe his innocent, Yes.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And they see him as a political prisoner, a scapegoat
- 5:52in the fight for Native American rights.
- 5:54Speaker 1: So it's not just about the murders themselves. It's about
- 5:56the bigger picture, the historical.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Context, right, And that's what makes this case so fascinating,
- 6:01so polarizing, because it forces us to confront some uncomfortable
- 6:05truths about our nation's history, about the treatment of Native Americans,
- 6:09and about the very nature of justice itself.
- 6:11Speaker 1: It's a reminder that sometimes the lines between right and wrong,
- 6:15guilt and innocence can get really blurry.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Absolutely, and sometimes even when there's a verdict, even when
- 6:22someone's behind bars, the questions linger.
- 6:24Speaker 1: It makes you wonder how many other Leonard Pelts are
- 6:27out there, people whose stories are tangled up in these
- 6:30larger narratives.
- 6:31Speaker 2: It's a thought provoking question, for sure. But moving on
- 6:34to another case that's left its mark on South Dakota,
- 6:37Let's talk about George Sits.
- 6:39Speaker 1: George Sits. Okay, so this is a name I'm not
- 6:41familiar with. What's the story there?
- 6:42Speaker 2: Well Sits has a grim distinction in South Dakota's history.
- 6:45He's the only person to ever be executed in the
- 6:48electric chair in that state.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Wow, executed? So what happened? What did he do?
- 6:53Speaker 2: In nineteen forty six, he committed a double homicide two
- 6:56law enforcement officers.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Oh man, that's awful.
- 6:59Speaker 2: It was a brutal crime and it really shook the
- 7:01community at the time.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I bet, And so what happened? Did they catch him
- 7:04right away?
- 7:05Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. Sits actually fled to Nebraska after
- 7:08the murders.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He crossed state lines.
- 7:10Speaker 2: He did. He was on the run for a while,
- 7:12but eventually he was apprehended, extradited back to South Dakota
- 7:16and put on.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Trial, and of course he was found guilty, right.
- 7:19Speaker 2: The evidence against him was overwhelming, and at that time,
- 7:21South Dakota had the death penalty and the prosecution was
- 7:25seeking the ultimate.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Punishment, and obviously they were successful because you said he
- 7:29was the only person ever executed in the state's electature.
- 7:32Speaker 2: That's right. His case sparked a lot of debate at
- 7:35the time about capital punishment, and it continues to be
- 7:37a topic of discussion even today.
- 7:40Speaker 1: It's a reminder that even in states that don't carry
- 7:42out executions very often, the death penalty still looms large
- 7:46as a potential consequence for certain crimes.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a powerful symbol and one that elicits strong
- 7:52emotions on both sides of the issue.
- 7:54Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes exploring these true crime
- 7:56stories so fascinating. They often lead us to these bigger
- 7:59questions about justice, punishment, the very nature of good and
- 8:02evil exactly.
- 8:04Speaker 2: And sometimes those questions are even more intriguing than the
- 8:06crimes themselves, for sure.
- 8:09Speaker 1: And speaking of unanswered questions, let's shift gears a bit
- 8:12and talk about the unsolved cases in South Dakota, Because
- 8:16for every crime that's solved, there were always those that
- 8:19remain mysteries.
- 8:20Speaker 2: That's true, and those unsolved cases they leave behind a
- 8:24different kind of pain for the victims' families. It's the
- 8:27not knowing that can be the hardest part.
- 8:29Speaker 1: It's like they're stuck in limbo, yeah, waiting for answers
- 8:32that may never come.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Exactly, and it's heartbreaking because you know, for some families
- 8:36that closure never comes.
- 8:37Speaker 1: But there have been some amazing breakthroughs in forensic science
- 8:40in recent years. Do you think that offers some hope
- 8:43for these cold cases.
- 8:44Speaker 2: I think it definitely does, especially when it comes to
- 8:47DNA technology. You know, we can now re examine evidence
- 8:50that was collected decades ago and potentially find new leads.
- 8:55Speaker 1: That's incredible to think about that we might finally be
- 8:58able to solve some of these mysteries that have haunted
- 9:00for so long.
- 9:01Speaker 2: And it's not just technology that's making a difference. There
- 9:03are also organizations like the Murder Accountability Project and Project
- 9:07Cold Case that are doing really important work.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of those groups. What exactly do they do?
- 9:12Speaker 2: They basically maintain online databases of unsolved murders and missing
- 9:16persons cases.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Oh wow. So they're like central hubs for information about
- 9:19these cold.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Cases exactly, and they're incredibly valuable resources for both investigators
- 9:24and for the families of victims.
- 9:26Speaker 1: So they help to keep these cases in the public
- 9:28eye and hopefully generate new.
- 9:30Speaker 2: Leads exactly because even though years or even decades may
- 9:35have passed, people don't forget, and someone somewhere might have
- 9:38a piece of information that could crack a case wide open.
- 9:42Speaker 1: It's a good reminder that even in the age of
- 9:44instant information and social media, there are still mysteries that
- 9:48haven't been solved, stories that haven't.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Been told, absolutely, and it's up to us to keep
- 9:53those stories alive, to keep searching for answers, and to
- 9:55never forget the victims.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Well said, and I think that's a good place to
- 9:59wrap up our deep dive into the dark side of
- 10:01South Dakota. We've covered a lot of ground today from
- 10:05the chilling crimes of Robert Leroy Anderson, to the audacity
- 10:08of John Dillinger's bank robberies, to the controversial case of
- 10:11Leonard Peltier and the somber story of George Sits. We've
- 10:15seen how crime can touch every corner of society, from
- 10:18small towns to big cities, and how the pursuit of
- 10:21justice can be long and winding.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And through it all, we've seen how these stories, these
- 10:25crimes can reveal so much about human nature, but the
- 10:29darkness that can lurk beneath the surface, and about our
- 10:32own capacity for both good and evil.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's been a fascinating and at times unsettling journey,
- 10:37but it's one that I think is important to take,
- 10:40because by confronting these dark chapters in history, we can
- 10:42learn from them and hopefully work towards creating a safer
- 10:45and more just world. So thank you for joining us
- 10:48on this journey into the heart of South Dakota's true
- 10:50crime history. We'll be back next time with another deep
- 10:53dive into a new case that's sure to keep you
- 10:55on the edge of your seat. Until then, stay curious,
- 10:58stay informed, Stay safe.