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Buzzworthy Communiqué · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Samantha Mathis and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: and parental discretion is advised. It's showtime, folks. Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor, pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, we're testing it here.
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  Speaker 4: I know, I'm in your class.
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  Speaker 5: I remember you.
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  Speaker 3: Where you been?
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  Speaker 6: Bathroom.
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  Speaker 5: Six weeks?
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  Speaker 3: My zipper got stuck.
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  Speaker 4: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian, and
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  Speaker 4: with me this week we have quite an assortment. First
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  Speaker 4: of all, Ben is back. Hi, guys. Ben, you almost
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: pulled a Roger, and you have to be a really
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  Speaker 4: long-time listener to get that reference. But Ben was on
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  Speaker 4: regularly for a long time, and then we didn't know
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  Speaker 4: where you went. It wasn't even like, damn it, Ben,
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  Speaker 4: don't come back. You were just gone one day.
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  Speaker 5: The way I remember it is I was at Yeti
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  Speaker 5: Spaghetti 2012. Uh-huh. I went to use the bathroom, and
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  Speaker 5: I just now came out of the bathroom. Huh. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm ready to eat some spaghetti. I'm ready to do it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's do it. Yeti Spaghetti 2012.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we've done another one since then. You missed it.
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  Speaker 5: What did I miss?
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  Speaker 4: We did a whole other Yeti Spaghetti.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, okay. So, is it like, it's the same?
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  Speaker 4: No, that movie was even arguably worse.
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  Speaker 5: What year is it?
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  Speaker 4: Where are we? This is 1998.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: That makes sense. So we're glad to have you back.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know where you went. We won't ask any questions.
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  Speaker 5: It's very good to be back.
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  Speaker 4: Now, also, this is Anthony. Anthony, you and I closed
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  Speaker 4: the video store. We, I think, personally are responsible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty much because of me that that happened,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to think.
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  Speaker 4: I've had many people blame me because I've killed a
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  Speaker 4: couple of video stores now. But I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's me, not Anthony. 20 years of a changing marketplace. No, no,
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  Speaker 4: it's me that killed the video store.
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  Speaker 1: I've been told I'm a snake in the grass, but
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 4: That's kind of true. I still don't know that we
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  Speaker 4: single-handedly or.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we did.
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  Speaker 4: But, yeah, that's how we came to be hooked up
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  Speaker 4: in this crazy movie world. So I've been wanting to
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  Speaker 4: get you to sit down with us as well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 4: And introduce your partner in crime here.
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  Speaker 1: Partner in crime, I have Matilda DeAngelis with me. She
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  Speaker 1: works with me over at the Y Louisville stores here.
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  Speaker 4: And is hardcore movie geek.
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  Speaker 1: She is hardcore about movies, mainly about the costumes and
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  Speaker 1: the fashions and the hairs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You definitely need to show up for the Oscar night.
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  Speaker 4: Oscar meltdown is in your future then. We need more
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  Speaker 4: red carpet coverage is what we need. So, I guess
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  Speaker 4: to ease our way into it, let's do geek activities.
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  Speaker 4: Has anybody seen anything lately? I have one, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind of interested to see if anybody else... Has anyone
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  Speaker 4: seen the new Terminator?
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I haven't made it yet.
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  Speaker 5: I have not seen it. I know it does have
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  Speaker 5: James Cameron's special approval, because there's like a whole thing
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  Speaker 5: you have to watch before... Like any movie you go
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  Speaker 5: to see now, like before the movie starts, it's like
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  Speaker 5: this long extended trailer where James Cameron is selling you
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  Speaker 5: the new Terminator. It's like, it's really good. It's basically
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  Speaker 5: him saying, like, it's not that bad, guys. Well, that's
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  Speaker 5: the deal of.
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  Speaker 4: One on my movie. Hey, this movie you're about to watch,
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  Speaker 4: it's not that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Daenerys Stormborn, I see she changed her hair color.
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing. I sat there the whole time going...
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  Speaker 4: man this chick's really good why don't i know who
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  Speaker 4: she oh wait i do i just don't know her
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  Speaker 4: without the other hair because i really didn't watch game
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  Speaker 4: of thrones i think i'm the only person in the
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  Speaker 4: world not watching.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no you're not alone okay i have not seen
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  Speaker 5: that show.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with it i just never
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  Speaker 4: got around.
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  Speaker 5: It's very alienating and yeah kind of bad i just
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  Speaker 5: it's one of those things that's so inclusive it's exclusive
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we need to catch up with the
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  Speaker 5: rest of planet earth.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, at least you were stuck in the bathroom for
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  Speaker 4: a couple of years. That's your, I have an excuse.
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  Speaker 5: I was in a bathroom. I just could not find
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  Speaker 5: my way out of there. It was, it was awful.
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  Speaker 4: It's like summer school all over again.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So, um, yeah, that, that's the thing. I have heard
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  Speaker 4: a lot of negative things going in. So I went
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  Speaker 4: in with really low expectations since then. I have read
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  Speaker 4: a pretty horrible review of it as well. And I'm like, I,
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  Speaker 4: I don't, get it i was okay with it like
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  Speaker 4: i expected so bad like i went in went i
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  Speaker 4: was actually worried like the first 15 minutes or so
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  Speaker 4: it's almost trying to recreate that first terminator and i'm
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  Speaker 4: like oh this is a bad idea don't don't don't
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  Speaker 4: don't reboot that much don't go down that road and
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  Speaker 4: then it takes its turn and it like figures out
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  Speaker 4: no we're gonna do our own thing and it goes
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  Speaker 4: down a totally different path it totally plays with the
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  Speaker 4: terminator timeline which by the way is beat to hell
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  Speaker 4: at this point yeah is it just me or by
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  Speaker 4: that second movie the entire universe should have collapsed upon
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  Speaker 4: itself like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know why the you know salvation just
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  Speaker 1: left a bad taste in my mouth i don't know
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  Speaker 1: why they named it salvation i skipped that one is
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  Speaker 1: the funny part i've seen the other four and now
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  Speaker 1: i'm like I guess at some point I'll have to
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  Speaker 1: watch Salvation. It came out, and I was like, Christian Bale,
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  Speaker 1: he's on a roll right now. I'll check this out.
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  Speaker 1: And it was on my birthday. I went and saw
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  Speaker 1: it on my birthday. I was like, this is a
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  Speaker 1: terrible birthday present. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Good for you. It's my favorite. That's the only reason
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad they made that movie, so he could have
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  Speaker 4: that rant.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 4: That's still so funny. I like him a little more
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  Speaker 4: for yelling at that guy. Quit walking through his scene,
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  Speaker 4: you jackass. Anyways.
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  Speaker 5: When you get to feel nostalgic about Terminator 3, as
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  Speaker 5: far as, like, that was a good one.
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  Speaker 4: See, that was what I was more worried about.
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  Speaker 5: I missed that movie.
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  Speaker 4: That was what I was more worried about, because I
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  Speaker 4: feel like 3 is just kind of a ripoff of 2,
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  Speaker 4: but not so good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was kind of like... Because, I mean, also,
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  Speaker 5: I just saw The New Jurassic World, and not to
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  Speaker 5: get on that movie, but I feel like.
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  Speaker 4: We can, because I don't think we've really covered it.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, there's a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, there is.
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 5: No, I was just seeing that, and everyone was talking about, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Jurassic Park 3. Like, that wasn't so bad. But I
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  Speaker 5: remember when it came out, everyone was like, this is
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  Speaker 5: the worst. Like, this is the dumbest movie. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that's how, like, the third Terminator is at this point. Like, we,
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  Speaker 5: the last, I don't know, this last movie looks so awful.
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  Speaker 5: We're kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Did they spell Genesis wrong? Is that right?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which is another reason I win with my guard up.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, they can't even spell Genesis. These
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  Speaker 4: guys suck. Again, I kind of like the weird timeline
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  Speaker 4: that they take. I kind of like the weird approach
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  Speaker 4: that they take. The huge question for everybody, and I've
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  Speaker 4: said it for years, I'm like, why is this robot
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  Speaker 4: an old man now? They find a way to make
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  Speaker 4: that work.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Now I've got to see it.
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  Speaker 4: They find a pretty cool way to go about it.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I won't ruin it. But I
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  Speaker 4: was just like, all right. They do find a reason
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  Speaker 4: at one point. And then I'm like, all right, that
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  Speaker 4: makes sense. And then later I'm like, all right, this
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  Speaker 4: all kind of works out timeline-wise. So, yeah, again, even
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  Speaker 4: though the timeline should have destroyed itself. If you factor
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  Speaker 4: in the TV series as well, I'm like, how many
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  Speaker 4: times have they looped around on themselves? Like, it should
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  Speaker 4: have completely unraveled time and space.
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  Speaker 5: That's right. There was a TV series.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I totally forgot about that.
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  Speaker 1: There must have been just like a giant dry erase
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  Speaker 1: board when they're writing up the script for Genesis. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: I think they erased it.
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  Speaker 7: Scrap it all.
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  Speaker 1: We're starting over.
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  Speaker 4: And they went, what's the beginning of the first one?
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  Speaker 4: All right, we'll stick with that for about 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 4: And from there, we're writing our own shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty much what it came down to.
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  Speaker 5: Was the same... Did the same guy who directed the
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  Speaker 5: last Terminator... do this one as well.
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  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. Are we talking Salvation? Because that was McG,
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  Speaker 4: wasn't it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the guy with the dumb neck.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was not McG, thankfully. So I didn't, again, visually,
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was all right. It didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 4: change my life or anything. But I went in with
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  Speaker 4: such low expectations. I was like, oh, this is all right.
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  Speaker 4: This is fun. I am okay with it. And then
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  Speaker 4: I guess to wrap it up, the way I heard
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  Speaker 4: it described online was It's like the third best Terminator movie.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right. Wait a second.
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  Speaker 5: Let's review those numbers.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, that sounds like a slam. But I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: when two of the three are like game changing science fiction.
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  Speaker 5: One is terrible. And I guess this one. Which one
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  Speaker 5: are you saying?
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were talking at the beginning.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 4: One is not terrible Oh.
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  Speaker 5: Wait no okay so there's five Including this one So
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  Speaker 5: it's the.
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  Speaker 4: Third best Okay You could do worse, technically.
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  Speaker 5: You could literally do one worse.
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  Speaker 4: One and two are tied, you know? It's like, they're
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  Speaker 4: so amazing what they did at that time. Like, the
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  Speaker 4: first one's just so original in the way it treats everything,
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  Speaker 4: and Every movie since then started stealing stuff from it.
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  Speaker 1: Plus you got young Bill Paxton. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We kind of get that scene. You'll have to go
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  Speaker 4: see it. I was hoping.
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  Speaker 1: Is it old Bill Paxton?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, did they get Bill Paxton's son to
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  Speaker 4: do it? Because that would be pretty funny. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: checked the credits, but that would have been pretty clever, actually. Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know. I was like, the second one,
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  Speaker 4: technology kicked in and it became a whole new thing.
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  Speaker 4: And then from there, I'm like, this one's all right.
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  Speaker 4: You can watch three. Maybe skip Salvation. This one's the
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  Speaker 4: third best one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you wanted to factor in each episode of
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. I didn't see much. I didn't hate it. Again,
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of like, oh, this is fun. I
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  Speaker 4: like River being a Terminator.
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  Speaker 5: This is fun.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't know. I'll have to watch the
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  Speaker 4: season one of that and factor those in as well,
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  Speaker 4: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: And now I'll make it and watch Genesis again. If
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  Speaker 1: it's a third, best out of five.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to hear your take on it. I'm sure
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: everyone else out there will bitch about it. But I'm like, eh,
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  Speaker 4: it was fun. What do I care?
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: Did anyone see Fury Road? I feel like you all
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  Speaker 5: probably talked about it already.
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  Speaker 4: It was one we were going to do a whole
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: episode on it, and it fell apart because half the
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: people can't get themselves to a location. So we haven't
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  Speaker 4: really talked about it very much. We lightly grazed it.
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  Speaker 5: A few weeks back. I thought it was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I saw it twice.
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  Speaker 5: I saw it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go see movies twice.
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  Speaker 5: I saw it. I saw it four times.
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  Speaker 4: You saw it four times?
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  Speaker 5: I saw it four times, guys.
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: You guys have problems.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like the last time I saw a movie
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  Speaker 5: four times was like, you know, like 90s Disney era when,
• 11:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know, like Toy Story or something.
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  Speaker 4: Your parents were just trying to get you out of
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  Speaker 4: the house.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it almost had like the fantastical villains like
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  Speaker 1: a Disney movie. Like there are many bosses leading up to.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like every bad guy in this movie, like
• 12:13
  Speaker 5: all the bad guys could have been like, bosses in
• 12:17
  Speaker 5: Streets of Rage for Sega Genesis.
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: There's a power-up at some point.
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  Speaker 1: Metal slug coming through.
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  Speaker 5: Even the guitar guy, he looked like... I'm getting so
• 12:28
  Speaker 5: nerdy with this reference, but in Streets of Rage, one
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  Speaker 5: of the villains is this dude in red pajamas and
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: stockings who juggles fire. I mean, it's like a dead
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: ringer for the guitar guy. But I thought it was amazing. Just... Yeah,
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: it just, everything was just, they pulled everything off the action.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't overdo, like, I liked that it wasn't, like,
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  Speaker 5: heavy with, like, dialogue or, like, exposition or anything. It
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  Speaker 5: was just, everything was told totally on, like, on the fly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it just felt like just, like, a really awesome, just, like,
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  Speaker 5: a great album. Like, I just wanted to, like, go
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  Speaker 5: back and, like, watch over and over. Because it's two,
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  Speaker 5: it was, like, two hours, but it felt... It flew by.
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  Speaker 5: It flew by, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And.
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  Speaker 4: I might have had the opposite effect on that one.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I went like that first weekend, but I'd already
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  Speaker 4: heard so much about it and so many people just
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: worshipping at the feet of Fury Road that I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, I watched it and I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: that was cool. I was just not overwhelmed the way
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  Speaker 4: I guess everybody else was. So I guess, but I've
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  Speaker 4: seen it that one time. So maybe I need to
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  Speaker 4: watch it four times.
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  Speaker 5: I guess it's not like a, I mean... like a
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  Speaker 5: game changer or anything like it doesn't necessarily break new
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  Speaker 5: ground as far as like action movies but it's just
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: all of it is so I guess because just action
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  Speaker 5: movies have just been so shitty for so long just
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  Speaker 5: to see like a real car chase sequence done like
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: that like I like that's what I was impressed with
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: I like a car chase like done that well in
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  Speaker 5: at least like 15 years.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the fact that pretty much all that stuff
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  Speaker 4: was physically done. They enhanced a little here and there
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  Speaker 4: and tried not to kill people. But for the most part,
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  Speaker 4: they flipped and blew up a whole bunch of cars.
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  Speaker 4: So I appreciated that old school part of it. But again,
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  Speaker 4: I think I just went in expecting it to be more.
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  Speaker 4: And then I got there and I went, oh, this
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  Speaker 4: is just a kick-ass action movie. Which is fine. Like,
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: that's all you need out of Mad Max.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 4: It just doesn't try to do anything. And I think
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  Speaker 4: I was a little thrown off because he's not really
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  Speaker 4: the main character. He's good, but she kind of steals
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  Speaker 4: the movie from him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they share. When I saw it the second time,
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  Speaker 1: I really saw that it was this exchange between Furiosa
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  Speaker 1: and Max. Every other sequence, they were helping each other
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: out and saving each other's lives. It was never just
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: one was taken over for the other. And that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of at the heart of the movie. and why
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: I think it had such a residual effect with audiences
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: is because they came out of it and they were like,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: there were two good guys in that movie and like
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: hundreds of bad guys trying to kill them.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like what was interesting, I feel like what was,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, a lot of people were like, Oh, the
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: characters aren't that fleshed out. Like, you know, you don't
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  Speaker 5: really get a sense of like, you know, Max, cause
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: they're saying like, Oh, he's kind of in service to Furiosa.
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  Speaker 5: But I feel like he's, Just as fleshed out as anyone. Like, everyone,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, even the wives, to, like, a certain degree,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: have their own kind of mini arcs, if, like, you
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: kind of pay attention. But it's just done through action. Like,
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: it's just little things that you notice. Like, say, because
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: what was, like, one of the girls, like, you know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: she's kind of, she's really just angry the whole time,
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: but then she, like, makes that cool, you know. Zebra Kravitz. Yeah, well,
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: that's her's. her thing is cool too because she's just
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: I feel like she's she pulls the most weight I
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: feel like out of all the wives in the end
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: but the one who like meets the cool um uh
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: grandma lady and like has the plants and everything like
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: she has that kind of it's almost like a mini
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: like kind of character like thing and then there's the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: girl who like kind of becomes friends with the war
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: boy and then It's just little things, and also with Max,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like just everything, like his character is kind
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: of expanded upon through kind of his just like... It
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: sounds cheesy, but it's just kind of action and not words,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was just.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: I couldn't pick up on that until I saw it
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: the second and third time.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: He really did a great job of picking up where
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Gibson left off with Mad Max, because he's always really
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: kind of soft-spoken and used his... face to tell.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: A story and that's one thing I did the more
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I thought about it I was like well he's not
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: you know super in charge of this movie but at
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: the same time I'm like is he really in there
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I don't remember the first one near as much I
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: need to rewatch that first one but like two and
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: three he's kind of drug along on the story almost
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: as much as this one I mean literally at the
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: beginning of this one but like even like that third
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: one like he's just sort of drug along with those
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: kids out in the desert I'm like it's not really
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: any more like So again, I think I just went
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: in expecting it to be a little different. And really,
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: it's probably not that removed from the last couple of sequels.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: It's just been 20 years.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: I think the genius of it, it's really, I mean,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: people are like, Furiosa, she's the star. She's the road
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: war in this movie. And I'm like, yeah, that's true.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: It's like he's the little boomerang kid telling the story.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: He's the witness in this case. But it's still a
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Mad Max movie. Visually, everything. I think Mad Max, everyone's like, oh,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Mel Gibson, Mel Gibson. I think what made those movies
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: so good, Mel Gibson was fine, but George Miller is
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: what made them awesome. The way he just set up
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: the universe and the world building. Max was just kind
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: of a little cog in the hole.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: And that's why this one's so good. That visual style
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: is still there. He needs to make more movies because
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: he's amazing. And not just babe movies.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Even just like when he's chained to the war boy, uh,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Holt's character and that whole action sequence when they're
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fighting over, like getting the gun with Furiosa, right. When
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they run into her, like the camera just moves with
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: these actors. And so he's got an awareness of how
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to keep all the action on frame, like, and just
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: move with all these characters and, tell a story while
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you're doing it and just make it riveting like you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: can't look away and you don't know what's going to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: happen next.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah I saw some video online that was really interesting
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: it was kind of like a behind the scenes of
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: how he how George Miller shot basically the whole film
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: and they used that scene as an example of how
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: he just basically like the reason everyone's like oh why
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: was it like the action was so easy to follow
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: you could tell what was going on and everything it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: because he just basically centered everything like any point of
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: focus any character like that's in the middle of the action,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: whereas another movie might have them in the corner of
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: the frame, and there's an explosion filling up most of
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: the frame, but you can't see what's... You don't know where...
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: The character's location just shifts in every cut in the frame,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: so you can't... It's hard to track where they are,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: so you kind of lose them. But so you... He
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: cut it in a way he centers the characters. In
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: the middle of a fight, everything is centered. The characters
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: never leave center frame, even during a cut, and it
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: shows them from a... another viewpoint they're still in the
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: center of the frame so you never lose where they
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: are so all they did was basically they showed that
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: whole fight scene but they just put like a little
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: crosshair so you could like kind of pinpoint where and
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: like if you watch like Max does not leave or
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Furiosa they do not leave the center of the frame
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: no matter how crazy the cuts get. The cuts are
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: very fast, but you still see what's happening because they
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: never leave that center point. It's really interesting. It makes
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: sense when you think about it, but it's just so simple,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: but it's just so logical on how to shoot action.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: If only we could teach that to Michael Bay.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he cares.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: A man who cannot shoot an action scene. And all
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of his movies are made up of nothing but action.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: I think what's going on in his mind is not like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: are they following the action? It's like, what color is
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: the next Lamborghini, I guess, going to be?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Zero bucks given for Michael Bay.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
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• 22:39
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  Speaker 4: B-Day, boy. All right, well, I guess we can head
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: into the topics of the week here. And it had, again,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: another thing had been a really long time since we've
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: had on was, what's the buzz? And being the weekend
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: that it is, a lot of weird news and stuff
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: came out of a certain city. We won't promote them,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: I suppose. Nobody's ever heard of this Comic-Con thing. But, yeah,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I figured we would just kind of take a look
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: at the things that, I'm using air quotes, leaked this weekend.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Which is funny that, I mean, that's one of the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: things I'm like, all of this is so pre-programmed and
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: planned that I'm like, are the people supposedly shooting this
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: bad thing on their camcorder also on the payroll? Because
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: I feel like... if they wanted that stuff not to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: show up, they could take care of it. Like, or
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: they would not let 7,000 people in a room with
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: cell phones and be like, shh, don't tell anybody about this. Like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: you know people are going to do that. So they
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: either openly know and let people do it or they
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: put somebody in on the inside. Because I feel like
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: all this stuff is supposed to get out. That's why
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: there is a Comic-Con. So I think it's funny that
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: they still pretend like this leaked so that you can
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: watch it at home and feel excited.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: But, We're just pawns in their game, man.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I like to at least think I'm conscious of it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Some people may not be, but I like to know
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: when I'm getting duped.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I feel like... I think that's exclusively with like... I
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: don't know. I feel like it kind of varies, but
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: generally that's the truth. Especially if it's like a franchise thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: I feel like they want to hype it up. They're definitely...
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: setting all that up on purpose.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: They know what they're doing.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Let's give them a terrible quality leak of it, quote-unquote leak,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and then when we release the trailer before whatever movie
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: people go and see, and it's the nice quality, they'll
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: enjoy it even more, and then we'll release teasers. Like, okay,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: we get it. We already know what's going to happen
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in the movie, and we're going to see it anyway.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: We're not that dumb.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I think once the movie's shot... and they're going around
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: showing it at conventions and stuff, I feel like they have, honestly,
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: they probably have no problem with it getting leaked. I
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: feel like they think any press is good press in
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that case, but I'd say if the movie hasn't started
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: shooting and they're still maybe casting in something like a
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: script or an audition tape leaks, something where someone can
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: get sued and production can get shut down or whatever,
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's when they get Are they really
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: trying to cover their ass?
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point, I'm sure they don't want the
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: actual movie leaking, which happens a little more than it
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: needs to, and it's kind of killing the industry. But
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: like the trailers and promo stuff, yeah, I bet none
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: of that they're going to worry about. If it's going viral,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: they could give a rat's ass how it got that way.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if they have a problem with it linking online,
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: then why are they even showing it in a giant
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: public setting anyway? Is it really that big of an issue?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: So I think all that's very deliberate, and I'm fine
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: with that. As long as we're aware of it, we're
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: there for the same reason. Do we want to start
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: with the big one? I mean, I feel like the
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: world shut down for geeks as Star Wars showed up
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: in one place at one time.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Real sets.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Practical effects. You've been here, but you don't know this story.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Nothing's changed, really. I mean, everything's changed, but nothing's changed.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: That's the way you want it to be, really.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: To see the way that technology has evolved.
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: And yet keeping one foot in the pre-digital world.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It couldn't be more exciting.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: It's still surreal.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: We are here on day one. Of Star Wars Episode VII.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: How incredible is that?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Eyes welled up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: That's, yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Goosebumps.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: That's what I heard.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Goosebumps were everywhere.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I touched base with many of our people on this show,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: and I believe the term tears were used several times.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I believe Patrick said all the emotions is what he had.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: All of the emotions.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: It just now sunk in because, I mean, I just
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: now saw that video, but it just now sunk in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, yeah, C-3PO and R2-D2 are in this movie.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I'm just now like, oh, yeah, the characters.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: They're not going anywhere.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: They're not going anywhere. They're doing it for real.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: That's Peter Mayhew again.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, the same people in those suits.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: That's the one I'm impressed with because when they first
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: started announcing stuff. Warwick Davis.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Did they get him in there?
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Warwick Davis, yes. Warwick Davis is coming back.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: He's got to be in there somewhere.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Damn, what if they replaced him with Peter Dinklage? That
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: would be a heartbreak.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Dinklage don't need that shit.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I wonder if somewhere Warwick is shaking his fists like,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: damn it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Dinklage is like GQ cover boy at this point. He
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: don't need that nonsense. He's a super stud. He don't
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: need them. He don't need your costumes.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: He does not.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: But there won't be Ewoks, right? Warwick did other things
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: besides Ewok.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I feel like anything could happen.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: The Leprechaun will show up maybe. His other starring role.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: That'll be a surprise. That would literally be the last
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: thing anyone would expect. Warwick Davis is returning for Star Wars.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He's still looking for his gold.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: He's coming as his character from Harry Potter. You guys
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: are cool with that, right? It's all geek stuff.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It's all the same universe. Spoiler alert.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Come whipping in on a Nimbus 3000. It's all good. So,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: have that in the middle of a lightsaber battle.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: That'll be fun.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I just hope that this new one just finally caves
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: in and makes the Christmas special canon because they don't
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: need Lucas's approval, do they?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: It is canon, I believe.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's not his anymore.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I think it is canon.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: It is?
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It was, I mean, because it kind of has to be.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: It's the first uh appearance of boba fett you can't
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: rule it out or there's no reason for him to
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: be an empire so he was in the christmas special
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: before empire came out so i think it's canon he
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to re-release it but i think it's canon.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Have you guys seen the christmas.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Special the I've only been lucky enough to see.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: The wondrous shit show that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: You can watch online. Some jerk made you watch it
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: on a giant screen on this window behind us right here.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: That was like the most fun. I mean, I'll be honest.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: That was our Christmas party one year.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: This is bad, but I feel like honestly it's the
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: most excited I've been while watching a Star Wars quote
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: unquote movie.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I think you were the only one. Everyone else hated
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: me that evening.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, I loved it. I just couldn't believe.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: They still curse my name.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Does it touch you walk adventures?
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's way worse.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: It's way worse. It's way more nonsensical. Ewok has a story.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: This is just a variety show with Wookiees.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It's the whole family.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: A bizarre Jefferson Starship performance.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: A wonderful song from Jefferson Starship.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: As a hologram. What a.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: It's basically you just watch characters watch things on other screens. Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: For like two hours.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: It's like a fever dream. You're just like, oh, cool.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: I'm going to see like Chewbacca and like, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Han Solo. And it's like, no, it's just like they'll
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: start a skit or what it seems like a skit.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: And then they'll get like a computer or something. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: they're like, let's watch this like computer thing. And it's
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: just like it cuts to like a cartoon or something
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: that like. Princess Leia is watching. It's just weird.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: Like every 15 minutes it cuts to another thing and
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you watch that character watch this thing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: It's like Steve Jobs was like trying to like, I
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: don't know, like unveil like the early Mac prototypes somehow.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: It might be part of it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: It was just ill.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Everybody had little iPads that they were watching stuff on.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: And then they just make up this thing where like
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: the Wookiees have this like kind of cults like cultish holiday.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: It's life day and I celebrate it every year.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Life day.
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: It's not Christmas. It's, I mean.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That's special.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: And they all wear these weird like eyes wide shut.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Like red robes.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, Wookiee eyes wide shut.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: That's so hot. And just the final sequence where they're
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: just all in this ceremony and they're just, it's very solemn.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Like they're, it's just, they're, it's the most serious part
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: of the whole special. It's like the only.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: They're holding like candles and shit.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: The only part where you're not watching like a cartoon
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: or like a musical performance. And you're actually seeing, like,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: all the cast members there. It's, you know, Mark Hamill,
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Princess Leia. I don't think Harrison Ford.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: No, Harrison Ford shows up. It's one of those, I
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: didn't think, I was like, they didn't get him, right?
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: They got everyone. He's not happy about it. You can
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: see it. And he's like, well, I got to go
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: move the Falcon. I'm in the toe zone. I'll be
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: back later. And, like, he disappears for most of it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: But he's there. It's just so stilted and uncomfortable. And
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It's just... I mean, you can see
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: because Lucas, after it was made, he tried everything he
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: could to have it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think he had anything to do with it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: The more I watched it that time, I was like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I think he just signed off and went, all right,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: it'll promote the movie. Cool. And I think he just
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: handed it over. And some network executive slapped this nonsense together.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Because I don't even think it has enough.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, for the longest time, it was harder to
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: get a hold of. It was harder to get a
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: hold of than Song of the South or something.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: It was just bootleg VHSs for years and years. That's
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: what kept it alive, really. That's the only reason it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: out there now. Some jerk with a VCR before anybody
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: else in the country had a VCR taped it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Some jerk with a VCR.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: But I loved it so much. It was... Oh, it
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: was so awful.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: But Episode 7 will not be anything like that, we're assuming.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Based on that footage.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: We don't know. Never say never.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to look a little better based on the
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: footage we just saw. That's what I think is impressive.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: As much as I went in a little eerie when
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: they announced it, and as I've said myself, and you
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: just said it a little while ago, it's like the
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: best thing that could have happened was George stepping out
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: of the situation... JJ, I'm okay with for the most part.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I'm more interested that he's going to turn around and
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: hand it off again because I'm looking forward to 8
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and 9 because that director's awesome.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I like that they're doing that, though. And also, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: feel like in JJ's defense, I'm not a huge JJ
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Abrams fan, at least in the movie-making realm. I like
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: his TV stuff. I feel like that's kind of... That's
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: just where I like his directing more, I guess. But
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: I feel like in some ways this... It makes sense
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: because he's really good when you think about aping other directors.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: That's almost all he's done.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That's what he loves his career on.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Has he done anything that wasn't his movies?
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Has he done anything that wasn't somebody else's property? The
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: whole Spielbergian lens flares he does. And Super 8 is
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: totally a Spielberg movie.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Mission Impossible, he.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Came in on three. Star Trek is obviously someone else's property.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: He usually just sort of translates everything. That property for
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: a new audience.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: He's pretty damn good at it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: His movies are accessible.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: I feel like he knows. I feel like he's smart
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: about it. He's going to know as a directing presence.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: He knows that the older movies, when we think about...
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: They're not really like... showing off like this director is
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: you know clearly behind it because you can't really tell.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Except the second one the second one well just the
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: second one just looks like it just looks oh yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I mean it's it's lit better yeah it's it's way
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: better but i feel like it's he's not going to
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: be too flashy whether he's not going to try to
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: put like he's going to try to let.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: The story lens flares out i'll give him a nickel
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: yeah for the love of god.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Stop it just stop it I think he will. I
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: feel like he's going to let the story kind of
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: take over.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Well, to me, that's so... Like, again, because he put
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: it so heavy in Star Trek, I'm like, you can't
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: have these be the same universe. Like, you need to
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: separate them, at least with lens flares, not being in
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: this one.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: And it calmed down a little bit with the second
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Star Trek.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like it was still too much.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: The first one was out of control, but I feel
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: like there was still a good amount. Out of control.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: It was out of control.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: The lens flare.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: But I think that's the other thing. Now that George
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: is out of the way, he's handed it to new people...
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And I think it helps like that, you know, JJ
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: is a fan. And at this point it would be
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: hard to find a filmmaker who wasn't influenced by these movies.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But I mean, it is one of those, like he
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: wasn't really a fan of Star Trek and he does
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: a decent job, but like, okay, what if he loved
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the property? Like, so that's kind of what I'm hoping
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: we get is like, this is his childhood and he
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: really doesn't want to screw that up. So it's like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping he puts a little extra care into making
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: sure this is a A solid new start that we
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: can launch 10 million new movies out of.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: And Hamill looks good. Domhnall Gleeson. Love Domhnall Gleeson. Oscar
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Isaacs is on those two.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: He's in everything now. He's the new go-to. He's great,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Oscar Isaacs.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: I feel like they cast the new generation. I feel
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: like they had a good eye for, oh, these people
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: are five years from now, they're going to be superstars.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: They're kind of already getting there.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: This ought to do it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: He already is, but even the kids are kind of like,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: give it another year. They'll be huge even without Star Wars.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: I think because of that, they're going to be the
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: new A-listers going into these things. That's cool. And the
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: practical effects thing. Back to what we said about Fury Road.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: It's like the fact that he's not relying on greens.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: George did nothing but stand. Literally, those last two There
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: are no shots without green screen. There's a little bit
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: in Phantom Menace. There's nothing done, a completely practical shot
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: in those last two movies. And I'm like, that, to me,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: you can feel that watching them. And there's just something
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: you don't connect with because of that. He's not doing that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: And it's not just that he used green screen, because
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I feel like there are certain movies that are entirely
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: green screen, like Sin City or something. But it works.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: You feel like it's compelling. And it's like the green
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: screen in the prequels, it has this muddy quality to it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It just feels flat or something. You
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: get no sense of when someone's supposed to be... They're
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: doing some kind of political trade-off of something with taxes.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Something really boring. It's supposed to be
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: in this giant hall, palace, and it just looks like
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a flat cart. You get no depth. I don't know.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: There's no feel to it. And that's something with Sin City.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like they... That is so stylized, so comic
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: book universe. You're supposed to feel like it's a different thing.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: But the difference... charm i think in those old star
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: wars movies was that they were a real world like
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: as much as it was fantasy and there were weird
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: things that obviously didn't exist in your world for the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: most part tetween was like just a big dumb desert
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: that you didn't want to be stuck in just like
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: luke like it felt like a real world that had
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: these little fantasy elements but the most of it ran
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: like a regular place that you did kind of you
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: know you could sort of feel at home at where
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: you're not going to get that in something super stylized
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: like sin city so there is a A disconnect there
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: that I think is okay when you're doing something that's
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: supposed to be like that. But Star Wars, I think,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: works better if it feels like you're part of that universe.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and at the same time, it's 2015, and of
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: course you can't have a space opera action movie without CGI.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you use it right, it's fine. It's
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: just not overdone and not badly done.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I think when it becomes a problem when there's, like,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: CGI and humans interacting with one another on screen, because
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like, you just know when you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: looking at it, like, that's CGI... unless that's not real
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that's not genuine you know it's like the way they
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: light the actors on the green screen and like the
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: way they're lit and the way like the the fake
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: lighting or whatever the computer lighting of the environment they're
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: in is like it's it looks like it's coming from
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a totally different source so you're just seeing this like
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: brightly like over like i don't know like these backlit
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: kind of people or something and they're just like popping
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: out like I don't know.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing. I won't totally sell green screen
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: down the river because they're getting better. That last Planet
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: of the Apes movie, regardless of whether you like the
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: story or not, those effects were so good. Those completely
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: creating those apes.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Were they really?
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: I feel like the first one was kind of iffy,
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: but that last one, I feel like the special effects.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't see the last one.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: But I feel like the last one, the special effects
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: have gotten, even in those couple of years between those two,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: the special effects got so much better. That those characters
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: are real characters. For once, I felt like that. It's
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: rare that you get that with CG characters.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I think they used blue screen with that one.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Are they back to that? That was what Lucas started
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: with early.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I think they're going back to blue screen now. I'd
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: read somewhere, but they nailed it with that.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: All thanks to Willow.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Willow.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: I believe that was our first blue screen, or one
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: of the first ones they put a lot of blue
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: screen work in.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Use the wand.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: It's all back to Willow. All right, have we covered
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: our Star Wars? Have we welled up enough that we
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: have hope for the future?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: We're excited. Maddie, what do you think? Star Wars.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Were you big Star Wars before? See, I didn't watch
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: them much as a kid, so to me it doesn't,
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I don't have the nostalgia. I'm finding that. Like, yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: I so assume that everybody's so steeped in it. That's
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: an interesting discussion, too.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Is I feel like are the people who are like
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: the most diehard, and you know, I love the Star
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: Wars movies. I don't consider myself like a diehard Star
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Wars guy. Like, I don't, I could not tell you
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: like the real, like the story, you know, of the
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: original movies. Like, I know the characters, I know Individual scenes,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: I know like the.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: It's not overly complicated, I hear you.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: But like, you know, when it shows the text at
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: the beginning of the screen, like scrolling up, I could
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: not tell you like what that is all, like I
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: never read that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: No idea.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: But I feel like, I wonder if there's a lot
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: of just, I'm sure this is true, like just a lot,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: a huge chunk of people who really love Star Wars
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: is because they grew up watching like old VHSs of them.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: And like seeing a movie like that as a kid,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: like really kind of blows your mind because when you're
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: a kid, everything you see in a movie is real.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: And when there's that much kind of like imagination and
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: sensory overload in a movie and you watch it that
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: early on and it's like live action with like real people,
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: it's not like a cartoon. I feel like that just
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: kind of stays with you. And I feel like, I mean,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: that's probably why like people are so protective and like really,
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: you know, they are, they're keeping such a close eye
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: because it's like, it's something, you know, watching those old
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: VHS tapes as a little kid, like that, like is
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: ingrained in like their movie souls or something. And, they
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: don't want that to be broken.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: That is something i wonder because again dealing with new
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: generations since then because that's something i noticed working at
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: the video store like kids would come up with star
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: wars all day long yeah but they didn't care which
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: one like they watched one through three just as much
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: as four through six and some of them liked them
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: better because they're a little more action they're a little
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: more animated literally in my thoughts but They didn't have
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: the problem with it that old guys are just like,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: that's not Star Wars. You kids are stupid. Where they're
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: just like, shut up, I like this. So I'm like,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: they don't know not to like it. It's like we
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: go in so guarded once you're of the generation that
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: grew up on it. Whereas if it's just been there
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: since birth, you're like, it's a movie. What do I care?
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: So you like what you like. So I wonder going
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: in now, if you take the old people out of
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: the way and you're dealing with the new generations, if
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: they're going to come at it totally different. you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: kind of fresh and be like, well, that's stuff my
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: grandpa liked. I'm going to watch this episode seven and
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: see what I think of it and maybe take it
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: on for its own, you know, whatever this movie is
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: going to be.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Even just like the expanded storylines like have exploded in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the past 15 years, I feel, you know, especially with
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: like video game technology kind of pushing the stories for
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: characters and introducing new races and technologies to the Star
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Wars universe. I'm big on all the expanded stuff too.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: I love it all.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it. I've read all, probably
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: like 25 books, played video games, done the whole shebang.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Except the Star Wars Christmas special. I haven't seen that one.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: That's canon.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: You have to have that one.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I missed the.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Both of them? There are two, you know.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: We had them at the movie theater I worked at
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and nobody would want to watch them except for me.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: And, you know, I feel like even like, because I watched,
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I also watched growing up on VHS, the Ewok adventure movies,
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: and I didn't even, I didn't realize how bad they were. Like,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: I love those as well, like equally.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: So I feel like that almost like proves how like
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: when you're just, just all that kind of, again, just
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: all that shit, just like in a movie, and you
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: just kind of taking it as just real stuff. that just,
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: that has an effect on you.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: And you're a kid, you just like what you like. Like,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: you're not biased by, you know, media.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: You don't really know, you don't know if you really
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: hate a movie. Like, you don't know how to hate
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: a movie really yet.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: You don't yet have.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: Like, just movies are just this experience that you take
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: in and absorb and it just like, it just, again, yeah,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: just like, is stuck in your memory like constantly that's
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: why kids like watch like movies like 10 times in
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: a row yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: And you don't yet have snobby friends to make fun
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: of you when you like something that they think.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah you're not good enough you're not cynical like you
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: don't see star wars as like a movie that you
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: know has a person like directing it and not as
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: like you know like the frame or whatever like you
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: don't see it that way and i feel like that's
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: kind of sad once you go back and watch star
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: wars and you kind of see it as like you
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: know you know people acting and not like they're not
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: just characters that, you know, it's just like, oh, that's
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Harrison Ford reading a script.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: What's weird is I just went back and watched Empire again,
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: which I don't know the last time I've watched it. Like, again,
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: I know it so well, I feel like I don't
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: have to. So I actually sat down and watched it again.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: And I think maybe that kicked in because I felt
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: like I knew every scene so well that it, I
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: don't know, there was like, it didn't have anything else
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: to look forward to. So I think maybe that's why
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to these. Like, I'd like to see
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: something that I don't know every syllable that's coming up
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: in the next scene. It would be kind of neat
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: to see something different for once.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: There are going to be lines opening night everywhere across
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the country. It's going to be huge. I guess they're
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: expecting it to be the biggest opening, hopefully, since Avatar,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: which for some reason that was huge.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: Since the last two records we wrote.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was over my head.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: I understand people like, going that first weekend, but after
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: they saw it, I thought, oh, okay, they're not going
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: to go back and see that movie again.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: My dad saw it like three times. He couldn't get
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: enough of it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: My mom wouldn't even go see it.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, why do you keep going to
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: see this?
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: That's interesting.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: I noticed that too. I feel like older people really
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: liked Avatar. It was like a massage... like a spa experience.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: They didn't care about the story, but they just loved
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: the jungle and the plant.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I think they were all high.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just like.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: This nice relaxing thing.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: It was like they took a weekend and went to
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Hilton Head.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: It's like a moving Roger Dean album cover, man.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I just got paid $ 15 and watched some Blue Aliens.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Go for it, Dad. Enjoy.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. Alright, next up. Batman v Superman.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: Today is.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: A day for truth.
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: The world needs to know what happened and to know
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: what he stands for.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: That kind of power is very dangerous.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Let the record show that this committee holds him responsible.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: That's how it starts. The fever.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: The rage.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: That turns good men.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Cruel This spat vigilantes like a one-man raid of terror.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: You don't get to decide what the right thing is.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Nobody cares about Clark Kent taking on the Batman.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Do you know the oldest lie in America, Senator?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Devils don't come from hell beneath us.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: They come from the sky.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: 20 years in Gotham, how many good guys are left?
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: How many stayed that way?
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: He has the power to wipe out the entire human race.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: And we have to destroy it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Do we want to address... Just why?
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Because it makes money. I just.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm kind of... I'm done. For one thing,
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: let's take a break with Batman.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: And I like Batman, but I'm like, we don't have
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: to make him for the sake of making him, you know?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Just like, if you have a good story to tell,
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: tell it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: I think it's funny, too, how, because I'm pretty sure
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: when they're, maybe, I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: I'm making this up, but I know when this last
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Superman movie came out, like, before they were making it,
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: I'm sure they were planning on doing, like, another Superman
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: as a sequel, but when they realized that, like, people
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: don't really like Superman by himself, they're like, we need
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: to spice things up.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: We gotta put Batman in this or some shit.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: What can we do here?
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: So people will go see the sequel. And, I mean,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: I think it's cool that Ben Affleck, I feel like,
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: you know, I like Ben Affleck. I feel like, I mean,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: if he's put in the right role, and I feel
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: like he would make a solid, like, kind of alternative
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: character kind of Frank Miller-ish kind of Batman.
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, he does have the frame. He's got the jaw.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: He looks like a cartoon drawing of Batman.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: I do like that they're going all the way to
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: disassociate from the Christopher Nolan movies, like the vibe. They're
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: really trying to make him be this kind of, you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: his armor looks totally different. You know, his Batcave, you know, Alfred.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: It's Jeremy Irons, which.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Is very weird.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I didn't see that coming either. I didn't either.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: That took me by surprise.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know what to think about Jesse Eisenberg as
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: a supervillain in a movie.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: I can't take that seriously. I mean.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: We took up issue with his hair.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: His hair.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: What did you say, Maggie?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I said he looks like Julia Roberts with that haircut.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: He is no Pretty Woman.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Pretty Woman starring Jesse Eisenberg.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, that trailer. I mean, nothing against Jesse Eisenberg. Again,
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: he's just an actor that I feel like just cast
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: him right. And he's good.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: He's great in the right stuff.
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: They just like the trailer. If you watch it, it's
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: just like nothing but like explosions and, you know, a
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: building collapsing and like the stakes are high and just,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: and it cuts to like the bad guy and he's like, hey.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: Red capes. The devil comes.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: Red capes are coming.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: Is he the bad guy in this one? Or are
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: they just planning ahead two movies? That's what I'm trying
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: to decide.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is that Lex Luthor before he loses all
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: his hair? Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like he's clearly wearing a wig. Like, is
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: it not just, I mean, That would be hilarious if
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: they're like, no, that's his real hair in the movie, guys.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: This is not a joke. He hasn't lost his hair yet.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: They made me do this, guys. My hair doesn't normally
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: look like this. It's curly, I swear. When I watched
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: it that first time, and I sat there and was like,
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: when it was done, I was like, is it just me?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: And actually, it's just confirming what we've said. We bitched
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: about it for the last year or so. I'm like.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: is it just me or is there way too much
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: stuff going on in this movie? Like, there's just 14
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: plot lines going on in the trailer. Like, it's so
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: much stuff.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Zack Snyder, like, I feel like he's not really... He's still, like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know. There's sometimes, because I know a lot
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: of cases, there's a lot of people who are music
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: video directors who go on to be, like, great directors. Like,
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: David Fincher is, like, the most obvious example. But I
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: feel like he's still directing music videos. He doesn't... He
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: doesn't invest... I don't know, he doesn't seem to put
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: emphasis or that much interest on the story. He still
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: cares about style more than anything else.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Most definitely.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: He just directs long trailers. That's what he does. The
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: best part about Watchmen was the trailer, in my opinion.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: The intro, the little opening title sequence is awesome. And
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: then from there, you get into his weird... to me
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: he's just he's got so much agenda of what he
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: thinks is cool and what he likes to focus on
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: and like he will take whatever the property is and
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: kind of cram his personal thing into it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: So his heart's in the right place that's what yeah
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: i don't i feel like he really does want to
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: make you know a good movie he's really trying to
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: be respectful to the you know, the mythos or whatever.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's... I'm not a comic.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: Book guy, so maybe he's... I guess he's not, but.
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: Well, I just feel like he doesn't get the Superman
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: mythos at all.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he just wanted to do another, like, loud,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: kind of visually crazy... And I feel like, you know,
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: he wanted to have, like, he saw what Nolan did
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: with Batman. He's like, oh, I want people to take
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: my superhero movies as seriously as that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I want it to be dark.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Or bring him on as a producer. I'll have, like, weird, like,
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Terrence Malick-y like shit that doesn't belong and just is
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: out of place.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I will say, because I watched that first
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: Superman movie and I was just like, what the hell?
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: And again, with the mythos, like the Superman could care
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: less about humans. He's just letting people get killed right
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: and left. He never makes any attempt to move this
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: huge fight knocking down buildings away from the buildings. Like
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: he's constantly just taking out human beings right and left.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he cares about those
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: like two that he decides to save and kill a guy.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, OK, all that's ridiculous. It makes no
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: sense in that mythos. But I'm like, if all of
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: it really like I don't give Zack Snyder this much credit.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: But if all of that was really build up to
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: get to this, because it seems like that's what the
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: plot line to this new movie is, is like. this
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: guy's a jerk and like he just took out all
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: these people he destroyed our city he's not here to
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: help us if that was really part of the plan
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: i don't think he's that clever but that would be
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: kind of genius like if he made an entire movie
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: that was just to be set up so that he
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: could do this other idea that would be pretty cool
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: if he made it pay off and the second one
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: was going to be impressive I don't think any of
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: this is true. But as theories go, I would give
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: him credit. It still doesn't mean I want to sit
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: there for another two hours and rewatch that movie, but
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: it would be interesting if he made an entire movie
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: just to piss off fans so that he could turn
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: around and do something totally different in that second movie.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't... Even just to make the story believable,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: all you got to do is say, like, to get
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: people to hate Superman, charge them a Superman tax because
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: he breaks everything.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Who's going to pay for it? Well, I guess we will.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: What other option do we have? And he could wipe
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: us out, which he pretty much is doing already.
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: I feel like he probably kills a bunch of people
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: in that first movie.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: A lot.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: They even say it in the trailer, he's responsible for
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: all these. I'm like, geez.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: He has to be. Watch this. That's what I think
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: is funny in this new trailer is how much I
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: feel like they're again, trying to tie these fantasy worlds
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: into the real world. That scene with Bruce Wayne running
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: into the building collapse, I'm like, that's footage from 9-11.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: They're tapping into real world and people really dying. It's weird.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: It's kind of a weird area for them to be
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: doing a superhero movie and tapping that closely to this event.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: But again, they know what they're doing. We're going to
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: tie this to a real world thing. Only, you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: we're going to make it a silly superhero movie. But
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: they wanted to make it realistic. So that scene, to me,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: is just straight up 9-11 footage that they've turned into
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: a superhero.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: And that's Snyder trying to be dark, I think. He
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: shows a cadaver and a body bag in the trailer.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: For some reason, that was an image that stuck out
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: It was Michael Shannon. I'm assuming that's what it looked like.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I was like, did he come back just to be
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: a dead guy?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked like Stone Cold Steve Austin.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: No, not Stone Cold.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: That's his new biopic he's doing.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Michael Shannon is that good. He can do that.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Stone Cold could beat up Superman. Not even kidding.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: Somebody needs to. He needs to be stopped. Batman, I
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: guess we're looking at you. I don't know. There's just
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: so much going on in that trailer.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: And then they show them, like, fighting. And, you know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: it's obvious. I mean, I feel like why is it...
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: I mean... Superman can kill Batman in like a second
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: if he wanted to.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I don't know if it's going
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: to be like, oh, he's holding back because he doesn't
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: really want to kill Batman if that's what it's going
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: to be about. Which is, if that's the case, that's
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: even dumber because I don't care to watch that. Like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: that's just a whole movie of Superman just pussyfooting around
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: and like Batman just.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Getting all upset. I think in the old incarnations, like
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: in the comics and I think even in the animated
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: shows for a while, they would have them do that.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: And Batman is kind of smart. So immediately he's like, oh,
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: I need to go eat some kryptonite. And he would
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: build a suit with kryptonite in it and beat the
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: hell out of Superman. If they're not going to do that,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: it kind of doesn't make any sense. Like in.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: You know, Dark Knight Returns. I went back and re-read
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Dark Knight Returns after they announced this was happening. I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: was like, how the fuck did that fight go down?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I don't remember. So, like, you know, going back and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: it's like he's got... Batman has this super suit that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: protects him from Superman who's obviously going to throw him
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: through a bunch of skyscrapers. He's got, like, kryptonite all
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: over the place. And, you know, he's smart. He's a tactician.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: He knows how to fight. He knows his enemies. That's, like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: something that I remember him saying in the comic book.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: He's like, know your enemies. But that's Frank Miller doing...
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: cool batman comics.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Not sex yeah i mean i feel like the only
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: well to me here's the thing here's where i kind
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: of as far as like the comic book universe where
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: i just kind of check out is when it kind
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: of gets into like pitting these super superheroes against each
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: other and like having universes like all you know these
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: universes cross and like people with like very you know
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: unfairly just very unbalanced you know powers are fighting each
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: other like i don't know it's it's i can't buy
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: into like it's like it's like people who like that
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: i feel like are also people who like to play
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: like would you rather games or something i'm just.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Like i don't care like again that That's why I
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: was so turned off by that whole Superman movie. It's
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: just indestructible guys throwing each other through buildings. It doesn't
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: hurt anybody except humans. They're not getting hurt one way
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: or the other. So to pit it against something like Avengers,
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: my favorite people in the Avengers are the humans that
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: have no powers and are like, we're stuck fighting with
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Thor who's kind of a god but I have a pistol.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, so I'm like, I'm way more
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: interested in Black Widow because she's a real person.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm happy when a superhero movie like sticks to
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: the superhero and like they don't have cameos of other
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: like comic book characters.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: Well, then you came to the wrong movie.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: And that's what I hate about these Marvel movies. Like,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like a lot of the reason
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't see the new Avengers, but I read some
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: complaints online that I thought made sense. Like, and what
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: they were arguing was, like, why it didn't, like, they
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: said it was good, it was, you know, well-made, and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: Joss Whedon did a good job, but the stakes weren't, like,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: where they should have been at that point. Solely because
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: of the Marvel kind of machine of we got to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: keep this going, this person can't die, this person can't die.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: I like the new one, but he, I mean, he
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: just has so much to do in one movie. And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: to me, I think he balances it pretty good.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: I hate that checklist that they have, every director who
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: does a Marvel movie has to go, like... Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: To me, I feel like as good as you can
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: work around it, sure, I mean, that's true to any
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: big Hollywood franchise. I mean, that's always been the case.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: But I feel like there's Marvel, there's something super restrictive
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: about how their movies have to be made that just,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know, they just don't, I don't know, they
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: don't have really that much impact, I feel like. Even like,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: they don't even have, in some ways, like there's so well,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: a lot of like the Avengers, I liked it. it
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: was so well made and like so well put together,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: but it had no like flaws or interesting kind of,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I would have liked it
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: better if it took risks and like had weird flaws
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: and stuff in it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Like, I feel like the flaw with those is always
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: the villain because they spend like, especially when it's the
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: ones that Joss is doing, he spends so much time
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: building our characters and their relationships are so well represented.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: They just like, Oh, and we have some, we have
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: to fight something at the end, you know? So I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: mean like, I feel like the, even in this new one, like,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: Spader's great, but, like, he still takes a backseat to, like,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: all the other interaction with the characters because that's so
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: much better. Like, that stuff's way more interesting. So I
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: think even he knows that, and he's like, oh, all right,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: and then we'll do the big fight scene. But, like,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: the villain always kind of takes a backseat to our
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: main characters because the relationships are more interesting.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: I think these movies are just very reflective of just, like,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: the current generation of content overload and how that's just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: kind of how, I guess, like, us older, crabby guys,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: I guess, just, you know... piss and moan about too
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: many people, you know, too many plot lines, too many characters,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: and just, I feel.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: Like, Captain America wore a unitard.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I feel like there's just a whole audience
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: that's watching them, and, like, that's just, that's fine, like,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: that's how they, that's just how movies are, and it's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: not a problem, so.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And that's fine, you know, Marvel knows that people are
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: going to come to these movies, like, and my, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: didn't see the newest Avengers, because I was like, I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: already know that there's going to be two more, like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to go when I know that, like,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: people stand a chance of getting killed off, like major characters,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: because that's what keeps things interesting in these storylines is like, well,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: what if Black Widow got the black lung or something?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: What if we lose her?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Don't kill her because she needs a spinoff movie.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty great.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to kill off Robert Downey Jr.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: because he's pretty much out after these other movies.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to clock out.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Again, I feel like, I feel like Whedon would have
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: killed people off sooner. I feel like he would have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: killed one or two characters in that first one. In fact,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: he does, and Marvel kind of found the loophole and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: worked around it. But he would have killed more people,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: I think, in that first one. But again, he's got
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: to work sort of within their parameters and the planning
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: of 14 other movies. But yeah, if it were just
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: his property, I think he would have taken out a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: couple people, even in that first movie.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: And did we get a Harry Dean Stanton cameo?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: We should in every movie.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Every movie ever should get Harry Dean standing.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Except he doesn't want to leave the bar. He's got
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: to hang out at Dantana's. There's only so many cameos
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: he can pull off.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Bring a mobile green screen in the bar. Just like
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: he'll be sitting down.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: On a stool. Maybe he'll be in the new one
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: and Superman will go blasting through the building and kill
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: a bunch of other people. But Harry Dean will still
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: be sitting at the bar just drinking and ignoring them all.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: I'd be up for that. If he has to be
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: in that weird movie.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: That would be a great guest to have on.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that would be awesome.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: I saw him. I was very near him.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Did you high five him?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Nah, I might have.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Knocked him down. I don't know if he'd be into
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: high five.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he could get it up that tough.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: He's an old dude, man. He was hanging in there.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: He's this hell of a trooper. So yeah, I don't know.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: That's my take on that trailer is there's, in the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Batman V Superman, there's way too much going on. Like what,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: how do you even work Wonder Woman into that? Like,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: There's already too much story with Batman and Superman. How
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: do you also work Wonder Woman in? They're already working
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: in Aquaman at some point. I'm like... Oh, wait.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: That's going to happen?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. They already cast... What's his name? Wait, who?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: Have you not seen those pictures?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Aquaman.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Who can speak to fish? Maybe for like a boomerang cartoon.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I know. To me, that's of all the people for
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: them to focus on.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: The picture's ridiculous because they're really trying to make it serious.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: If they're going to make it serious.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: It makes you want to laugh at it even more
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: because it's Aquaman.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: They need Megalodon or something down there with him. I
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: never understood why Aquaman... Fish can't jump out of the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: water and... Oh, Khal Drogo?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: There you go, Jason.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, the dude from Game of Thrones guy.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: See, I was trying to think if he was on there.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Wait, now the game has changed.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Now you're on board.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I might have a little bit more faith in this.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Because he looks pretty cool there. He's kind of doing
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: a Dwayne the Rock Johnson look.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised they didn't cast the Rocks.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: And is that Batman Superman behind him?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to have the double logo going on.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: That's the new thing.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: So they're going to work him in here.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: And he's going to be like Thor of the sea.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like, how do you... I don't
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: understand how you get all of this in one plot
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: that makes sense. And again, like, you can call out
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 4: the Marvel movies for doing that, but they also took
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: like five movies first before they brought them all together.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: They're trying to do it all in one movie. Like,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: that makes no sense to me.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: I guess DC and.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: DC's just trying to play catch up. They're like, Marvel's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: doing a really cool thing here, putting all their stuff
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: in the same property. We better hurry up. So... They
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: don't want to invest, you know, seven or eight years
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: into planning this. They want to knock it out in
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: one summer, which is kind of a bad idea.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I don't see that. Going over so well. But I'll
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: go see it anyway because that's what we do here.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Begrudgingly go see movies and then get some prize sometimes.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: I guess we're on the superhero role because that was
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: just about all the stuff that came out after Star
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: Wars was all superheroes.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: So Deadpool?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Do we want to address the Deadpool?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: What if I told you we can make you better?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: You're a fighter.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: We can give you abilities most men only dream of.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Make you a superhero. You just promise you'll do right
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: by me so I can do right by someone else.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: And please don't make the super suit green or animated.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I think I don't have anything to say about that.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: We all just are just like, we can.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: That's the thing. It's a fine line because it's funny
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: how much Deadpool has jumped into the mainstream because I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: don't think most people knew who the hell he was
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: four or five years ago. Even when he was in
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: that other Wolverine movie like I think most people that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: weren't hardcore comic fans had no idea who Deadpool was
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: and like now I see so much Deadpool merchandise like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: just in like regular like chain stores there's just a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: whole section of Deadpool and I'm like where is this
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: coming from because we don't even have a movie to
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: tie him to yet officially so I'm like it's weird
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: that it's taken off this big in this mainstream for
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: something that they really haven't even done the movie and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: really just sort of confirmed, okay, yeah, we're officially doing it.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Here's a trailer. Instead of that leaked footage they did
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of Marvel animated shows
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: and maybe Deadpool plays a big part. I don't watch
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: any of those.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: See, I think there are hardcore Marvel fans that have
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: loved him for years. He's definitely got a following, but again,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: not like the mainstream stuffed characters following that he suddenly
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: has that I'm like, this is weird. So it's like,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: It's kind of going to work, at least when that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: movie comes out. There's enough push for Deadpool something that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: the opening weekend will probably be decent. Now, whether or
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: not they do a good job, I don't know. Watching that,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be another.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: It's a fine line. Because they're being... And that's what
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: they gave him shit for with the Wolverine thing. They
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: sewed his mouth shut. The one thing he's known for
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: is making his smart-ass comments. And they sewed his mouth shut.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: And it made no sense. And it's stupid. Which, granted,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: most of what goes on in that Wolverine movie is
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: really stupid. But they aren't doing that now. They're giving
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: him the freedom to jump around and say funny things.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: which is the entire selling point of the comic, so
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: I'm told. I don't really read it, but that's what
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: he does. That's why you have this character, so he
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: can break the fourth wall, look at you, the reader,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: and say something funny. So they're kind of sticking with that,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: but I'm like, it's a fine line. Some of their
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: jokes are so.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Lame like I'm like it's I'm like are we just
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: watching Ted 2 at this point like they're so like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: it's just base humor like I don't know maybe that's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: what we're.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Going for but Ryan Reynolds is gonna be quirky yeah
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: his head looks like an avocado okay.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: That's my other question of things that blew up out
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: of nowhere who would have ever seen TJ Miller being
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: like the giant properties that he's in now he's funny
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: I like him as a comedian but The weird things
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: he's popping up in now as an actor, it's very strange.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: And that was one of those, I'm watching this trailer.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: Like, really?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: T.J.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: Miller is playing this role?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: At first I was like, is he Deadpool? Because I
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: saw him on Twitter and he was doing all this
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Deadpool shit. Because I didn't know it was going to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: be Ryan Reynolds. I just literally yesterday found out about
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: the movie. And I was like, that's an interesting... I mean,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: I might actually see just because that's so weird. And
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: he I feel like he's actually he's genuinely funny.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: He can be.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: He's funny and like just friends. Like in certain capacities,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: you know, he thrives.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Come on. Are you guys a girl in a pizza place?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about T.J. Miller. I'm sorry. Yeah, because
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be Deadpool. But I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: think like if he was Deadpool, that'd be interesting.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: Definitely be a different movie.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: It'd be very different.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know i feel like it's yeah there's a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: fine line on this could be this could work just
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: the way they're trying to make it work or it
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: could fall flat on its face and just be dumb
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: for the sake of dumb jokes and like you really
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: gotta you gotta work that balance between the jokes and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: the action and like i'm sure the action will be
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: great but the jokes are what could kill it like
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: if it's If it's not funny and it's not the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: right kind of funny, it's going to fall flat.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Motherfucker, you are hard to look at. Like a testicle
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: with teeth.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: You look like Freddy Krueger face-fucked a topographical map of Utah.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: So do we want to move on to Suicide Squad?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: It's taken some work, but I finally have them.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: The worst of the worst.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Let's just say I put them in a hole and
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: threw away the hole.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: There's rumors, Amanda, that some of them have.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: abilities oh yeah i have seen things maybe superman was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: some kind of beacon for them to creep back from
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: the shadows i.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: Want to assemble a task force of the most dangerous
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: people on the planet who i think can do some good.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: They're bad guys exactly and if anything goes wrong we
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: blame them we have built-in deniability what makes you think
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: you can control.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Them Suicide Squad.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Whoa.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: Somebody's pretty excited about the Joker, I hear.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: One or two people talked about that.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: You want to just break right into the Joker action?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Let's just go right to that. Those teeth is.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: They nailed it with him.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: He's got.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Forward to it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Just to start off right there, I think Suicide Squad's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: going to be awesome. I think Jared Leto looks great.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Margot Robbie is a Robbie. I don't know exactly how
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: you say her name. She's gorgeous even as this evil harlequin.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: I do feel like that is perfect casting. I just
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: saw her in Wolf of Wall Street, and I feel
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: like she'd make a great Harley Quinn.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: She's like 23, 24 years old. She's super young. She's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: very young, yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: I think that is probably going to sell this for
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: most people. Again, that aren't already hardcore comic fans.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of Harley Quinn fans.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Harley Quinn fans, and there's never
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: been a version of Harley Quinn. She wasn't even a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: comic character. She was created on Batman the Animated Series.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: And then it just snowballed, and people loved her character.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: Which is a testament to that show, by the way. Which, again,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: that's one of the best.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: Which is a great, great show.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: One of the best, I won't even say animated shows,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: just best shows ever written. I put it above the
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: Nolan Batman movies. It's so solid.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I really do. That's a fair assessment.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: It's just a great TV show, period.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: And it's available online now.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: I think, for a long time, yeah, they didn't put
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: it out. I don't know what their licensing or whatever,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I think they're finally getting around to, because
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: they did the box sets there for a while, too, so.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that's one of those that I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: think it's been building, and her fan base is so
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: huge now. You can't go to a convention without seeing
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: 40 or 50 Harley Quinns. She is the favorite, especially
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: in the girl. There's a huge geek girl culture now,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: and it's like they don't have a ton of girls.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: So the fact that we're finally getting a live version
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: of Harley Quinn, I think a lot of people are
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: going to go just to see her.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: Now, was there a teaser release for Suicide Squad? Okay.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they've done a weird... teaser before, didn't they?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: But this was like a different one that they did,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: I think, just for Comic-Con. And it's got way more
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: footage on it.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: And of course, everyone wants to see Jared Leto as
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the Joker. There's been all kinds of stuff floating around,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: which may or may not be preordained and placed in
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: certain spots for a reason. But just looking at him
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: coming down at the camera, it's a new Joker. It's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: like a mix of the Arkham... video game jokers along
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: with ledger's joker and it's gonna be leto's joker it's.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: A little to me that that's what i was gonna
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: give him credit it does seem like they're going an
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: entirely different direction i don't even feel like it's the
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: heath ledger version as much as maybe the old animated
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: like i feel like maybe it's more mark hamill than
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: anybody because he's kind of like the ultimate joker like
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: he really is it's a shame there was never any
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: way for him to physically play it because he never
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: really even when he was young it would have been
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: weird casting visually, but he nails that voice so perfectly
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: that I feel like that's more than anything maybe what
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: they're tapping into with this new version.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, Leto just looks visceral and evil, and I'm
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what he does with it.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: He is kind of a crazy person, but when he
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: gets into the right role, he works. He seems like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: a strange dude in the real world, but he will
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: immerse himself in a role, and he can nail it
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: on occasion. I don't know most of them, other than
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: Will Smith. Like a lot of the other ones, I don't.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: Is he in it?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't know if he was going to be in
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: it or not.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: But the rest of them, I'm like either they're newer
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: actors or I'm just not that familiar with the character. Again,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: I didn't read Suicide Squad, so I'm kind of catching
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: up with the story itself and trying to piece together
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: how they're going to put all these characters into the deal.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: So it looks interesting, but I can't gauge it because
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: I don't know those characters near as well in their
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: other form. I don't know. Is it a good lineup
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: from what you can tell?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd only watched it twice, the trailer. And from
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: what I can tell, they're assembling the general gist of
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: what's going on as far as in the comic universe goes.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: And you know there's this whole political aspect to.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: It with.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: The woman at the beginning. They're having that dinner. And
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, you know, after the fiasco with Superman... Like,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: let's just have a group of the most, the bad guys,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: like the worst of the worst. And then that way, like,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: we'll just let them run rampant and we don't have
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: to take any responsibility for what they do.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: That was another moment when I was just like, I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: wish I could give it more credit. Because, like, the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: fact that it could also be spinning off this whole
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: other movie based on, like, from this point on, everything
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: in the DC movie universe changes because Superman's such a jerk.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: And he just annihilates people that everything from that point
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: in the universe changes. And all these different characters and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: movies have to come into play because of that first
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: dumb movie. So again, I wish I could give him
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: that much credit. Maybe at this point that's what they're
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: doing with it, whether he meant to or not. But
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: it does seem like they're building these two new things
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: coming out in the DC Universe. specifically around that whole incident.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: I feel like they're just finally acknowledging that not really
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: that people like Superman. Just as a superhero, I feel
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: like we'll just make him into just a shitty villain,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: sort of.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Because that's more, you clearly would rather see that than,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: you know, being.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: In his own movie. To me, it's always hard to
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: get on board with him because he's so omnipotent, you know?
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: It's like there's no struggle there. I feel like the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: only way it ever worked in those old movies is
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: because Christopher Reeve is awesome.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Richard Donner.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: He sold that character.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Those goofy, like the second Superman, like the Richard Donner cut.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: I feel like that is the ultimate Superman experience. That
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: is what it should be every time.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: It's fun, and it's light to some extent, and he's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: just so damn charming as Superman that he makes it work,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: where they've handed it to two guys since then, and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: both times I'm like, I don't care about that guy.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, I don't care. So I think that's
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: part of it, is unless you can carry... all of
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: the nonsense that comes with being Superman and being all
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: powerful and like, you're just not that interesting a character.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: That's the sad part about it. It's like Bruce Wayne,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: it's an interesting messed up dude. Yeah. Superman just can
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: do whatever the hell he wants. He's all powerful. Like,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's, I think that's a huge hurdle
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: to have to get over when doing anything with Superman.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: So it would be more interesting to just turn him
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: into a villain and have all of the people fighting
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: against him in the DC universe, which they're all going
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: to try to cram into one movie.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: That Superman, he's so easily influenced and malleable.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: So, is there anything we left out in this?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: As far as superhero movies?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: Or any of the recent stuff that's come out.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: It's how the teaser for Green Inferno.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: I've heard pretty interesting things it sounds as much as
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: I've kind of hit and miss with him as a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: director this is the most interesting thing he's done.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: In a while and I'm not like the biggest Eli
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: Roth fan but I've thought like based on those hostile
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: movies like the best thing about him was that he
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: was a good director like he needs to stop but
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: the thing is well yeah but the thing is this
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: trailer didn't look like I mean it looked like It
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: didn't look on this. Well, no, I was going to
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 5: say it didn't quite look on the level as like
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 5: the hostile. I don't know, maybe because it's outside. It's
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: in the jungle and they're like under harsher conditions. And
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 5: I'm just kind of gauging over like the bits and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: pieces that were in there.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: It just looked like it was him trying to do
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: something else.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: I feel like maybe it's intentional trying to kind of
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: have that kind of schlocky kind of.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: I think he's going a Hannibal.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: Documentary look.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Hannibal Holocaust kind of thing.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 5: Hannibal Hanukkah?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: Hannibal Hanukkah. Wait, that's the new Christmas special. I think
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: that's the new Star Wars.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Star Wars, Hannibal Hanukkah.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: Life Day has now become Hannibal Hanukkah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 5: But so is it basically just, I mean, it's fairly straightforward.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Just plane crash, cannibals. What I'd understood was that it
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: was like people were trying to go volunteer and help
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: out on an island. because they thought like these people
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: needed their help or it's like a mission, like with
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: a church or some type of affiliation like that. And
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: this was just based off one article that I read.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, they think that they're going and
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: are going to help these people. And then they're like, actually,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: we're just going to eat you, which I'm like, that's easy.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Like, let's do it.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: I'm off.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: I've already got like the weird feeling in my stomach
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: when you see people just like getting handed over crowds
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: and you're like, Oh, that person's going to get eaten
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: by another person.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm just glad that he didn't go the found
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: footage route because I feel like any other director would
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: have done that.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: I'm so sick of that. Really.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, I saw The Sacrament, the Ty West movie.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: That's what I think is the downfall of that one.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: It sucks because I really like him as a director.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: I think he's an interesting filmmaker.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I do too.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: But I feel like he's just better than that. I
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: feel like he was trying to do something with it.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: He was trying to actually make it like it's a
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: news crew documentary. But it still wasn't as effective as
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: just a regular.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: And I think for that one, just while we're on it,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I think where it veers off is because it follows
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: too close to a story we all already know. I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: felt like he was almost doing a whole different... kind
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: of weird, go to another country, be sucked into this
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: cult kind of thing, and then it just becomes the
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: one everybody already heard of in the 70s. It almost
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: exactly follows the Jonestown story. It's not subtle about it
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: at all. Yeah, I was like, he just completely does Jonestown.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you just do something else? I felt like
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: midway in, we were in the middle of something else,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: and we did not know what was going to happen.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: That would have been way more intense. If he would.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: Have done something totally different. Tastefully questionable. Yeah.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: But if he had actually been like, this is a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: movie about Jonestown.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: Or just do that, really. But I kind of liked
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: the first half of it. I liked those characters, and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: I liked they were midway in, and I'm like, they
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: are into something, and shit's going to go wrong. And
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, and it's the most conventional thing in
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: this cult story. I was like, yeah, of course it's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: going to do that. I wish he would have done
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: something original with it.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's good at that movie... nailed making me
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: feel unsettled but that's what it did you know i
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: thought it was great i like ty west and i
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: was unsettled by like the story and the way it
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: was shot and that's what you know i think it
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: was meant to do but you know i'll choose nick
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: cage wicker man over it.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: Oh god not that i saw that one in theaters
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: not the bees i can't remember why but.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Oh man i need to get is that out on
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: blu-ray i need to get a blu-ray copy of that god.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: Put your request in now. It better be. Okay, the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: only other one I was going to go into, only
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: because they released this, this wasn't even Comic-Con related. It
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: was just this past week they released the first shot
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: of the cast of Ghostbusters.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. I really am.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: I was getting the, and that's, I don't know. That
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: was going to be my question while we, again, I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: feel like we more than most shows of this type
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: have a relatively balanced cast most of the time. We
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: do have females on. As a female, do you feel
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: one way or the other about it? Do you feel
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: like we need female Ghostbusters? Not really, no. To be honest.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: That's the response I feel most people are just like, oh, well.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: That's how I feel too.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: We don't need it, but you know what? As long
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: as they're making it, It's kind.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Of just like a pat on the head, like, okay.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: It'll be a good time, probably.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: I don't want it to be that.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: No one asked, you know what I mean? And it's fine.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: It's not a film that people were crying out for, like,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: please make another Ghostbusters.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: We were all satisfied.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: When a movie's great, I'm like, okay, leave it alone.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 5: It's there.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: I don't even mind them doing another one. I'm just like,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out why it's now become the
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: girl Ghostbusters. It would make more sense to me if
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: they continued the story on, they're still doing the Ghostbusting thing,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: they bring in some new people and some of them
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: happen to be women. But like, why does it, like,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: it almost seems very token like of like, here's some girls.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 5: Is it officially Ghostbusters 3 or is it like a reboot?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: It's just Ghostbusters. So I, I don't know how they're
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: tying it.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: That's kind of annoying though. Like if they're keeping the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: same title. So like when you Google Ghostbusters now, like
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: you're going to get this. It'll be harder to like.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: IMDB, it says Ghostbusters 2016.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: It's going to cause confusion, I feel like.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: And that's kind of not fair to the original movie.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: So I don't know if they're going to pretend like it's,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: in the same universe and all the New York stuff
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: actually happened years ago? Or if this is like reboot,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: totally reboot, you know?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of those things, again, where
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Melissa McCarthy, she's on a roll right now.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Let's do Ghostbusters with her.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: Kristen Wiig. And that's the downfall. I'm like, I like
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: these women. I want them to be in a good movie.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know if... this is going to be it,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: but like... Yeah, I wish it wasn't Ghostbusters. I wish
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: they were in something else together.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Did anyone see the Lifetime... Sorry to D.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: God, I wanted to see it.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: The Lifetime movie.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: Because I love watching terrible Lifetime movies. It's like... It's...
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: It's the most entertaining... It is.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: the most terrible Lifetime movie in the best way possible.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: Because they're trying to make it terrible, and they're succeeding.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: I just heard they're so straight about it.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: They're playing it so straight.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: They're so straight, and that's what makes it genius.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: A lot of people are like, well, no, people are
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: not getting the joke. I've argued with so many people
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: who they really genuinely think that, like, no, they're making
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: a serious movie.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: That was Adult Swim, wasn't it? Or the same people
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: from Adult Swim? Because it feels like it's that level
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: of humor. It's like the people that get the stuff
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: on Adult Swim get it, And everybody else is just like,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: what is this? And they change the channel.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: Well, Lifetime, they're at the point now where they're kind
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 5: of rolling. I kind of hate it. I didn't like
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: how they did the Grumpy Cat movie because I feel
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: like they were trying to wink at you. They're going
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: the sci-fi route where they know why people watch their
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: movies now.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: That does change the mood of it.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: But I feel like this, because it's like Chris and Wolverine,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: they're just playing it like a straight. like a script
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: from like a Lifetime movie from the 90s, but they're
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: just going to play the leads.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: It's like a funny or die type thing.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's what it feels like. To me, it's like
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: you get the sense of humor or you don't. You're
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: just going to be like, what is this and change
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: the channel. There's no middle ground on that one.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: It's so funny.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: But I mean, that's the thing.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I like- Deadly adoption.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, from the opening- That title alone is my favorite.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, it just starts, hits the ground, and then
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: it's hilarious.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: Deadly adoption.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: And the corniest. Oh, God, it's good. The Ghostbusters thing.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: I like these actresses. I mean, we know they've wanted
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: to do three since two. They've been talking. I can
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: dig up old Starlogs from 1990 that are like, Ghostbusters
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: 3 on the cover. They've been building this story of
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: them writing Ghostbusters 3 for God knows how long. So
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: we knew another one eventually was coming. And they were
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: still trying to put the cast together until we lost
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: one of them. And then they were like, well, fine,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: we can't do it that way. So, I mean, I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: would have rather them just like continue the story, kind
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: of do a three and then just like make Melissa
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: McCarthy and Kristen Wiig on the team and like not
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: try to jam it into a weird thing that like
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: just make them characters. That's all. I don't know. I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: don't understand the. rebranding idea that they're now going for
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: like i'd rather just see them be characters in the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: movie especially.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Just by calling it ghostbusters it's like they're trying to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: just make a new original.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: Well and it's exactly the same like here's the black
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: one i'm like it's so cheesy the way they're going
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: about it and.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: Was i kind of like maybe i just i just
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: this isn't the case but i feel like part of
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: the title like of ghostbusters it was like a like
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: it i don't know what's the what's the phrase um
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: like a double entendre or something like it would like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: the busters were like guys like hey buster like we're
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: ghost busters that might have just been you that's just
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: because they're staying with it because they're they're just they're
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: they're ghostbusters too in this new one so like oh
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: okay maybe that wasn't like.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: I think that's i just applied that to busting makes
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: me feel.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 5: Good yeah are they gonna bring are they gonna bring
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: back ray parker jr i would.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: Hope so i mean what else is he doing Like,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: if ever there was a guy that just kind of
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: rode one song.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: Sitting by the telephone just.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Like, please call me, please call me, please call me.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: You know, rubbing his hands together.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: Please bring back Ray Parker Jr. that's all I'm saying
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: alright I think we've hit all the topics of the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: week thank you for sitting in all of you and
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: I think we've had a good take on it I
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: would like everyone to come back in the near future
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: and continue our yammering on about movies.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Well thanks for having me yeah thank you Yes, thanks
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: for having me back.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: Just good to be out of that bathroom.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: No more trips to the bathroom for you.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: You'll find a bush, Audrey.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: I've got to shave this huge beard I have now.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: Let's probably take a bath or something.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: On that note, I say we get out of here. Otherwise,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: that about does it. We will return next time, same
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 6: It's all right you can.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 8: Groove all you like feel free cause it's your.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: Life Well, if you're a square or you're just not
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: sure how to boogie, it's all right.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: Just relax.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: The fun has just begun.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: Because, honey, I'm going.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: To pump you up.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: With a groove so strong that by midnight even Cinderella
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 8: gonna have to fuck burn it up it's alright feel
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 8: free to do whatever you like go on ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Cause it's your night to get.
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  Speaker 8: Down you got to.
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  Speaker 4: Get on down time.
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  Speaker 8: Loosen up if it's alright You can groove all you.
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  Speaker 5: Like Feel free.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, get on down.
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  Speaker 6: Now in the music jams, strange things happen at a party.
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  Speaker 5: People change.
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  Speaker 6: Even Mary Jane can turn into a freak and wear you.
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  Speaker 4: Out.
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  Speaker 6: So don't be scared to let yourself down.
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  Speaker 3: It's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Have a good time.
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  Speaker 6: Because that's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody on the scene. It's your night.
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  Speaker 3: London, Tokyo.
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  Speaker 8: It's your night.
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  Speaker 4: Paris, Rio.
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  Speaker 6: It's your night.
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  Speaker 4: To get down.
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  Speaker 8: LADC.
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  Speaker 4: It's your night.
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  Speaker 3: New York and the Big D.
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  Speaker 8: It's your night.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody.
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  Speaker 6: Come on, it's your.
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  Speaker 1: Night to get down.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, shucks.
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  Speaker 7: All around.
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  Speaker 8: It's your night. It's your night. All around. It's all right.
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  Speaker 8: Feel free to do whatever you like.
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  Speaker 4: Feel free.
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  Speaker 8: Cause it's your night to get down.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: You know you wanna groove.
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  Speaker 4: Just enough.
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  Speaker 6: It's all right.
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  Speaker 8: You can prove all you like All you like Because
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  Speaker 8: it's your night to get down Burn it up It's
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  Speaker 8: your night to.
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  Speaker 3: Get down Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: It's your night It's your night It's your night now
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  Speaker 6: It's your night.
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  Speaker 8: It's your night.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: It's your night.
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  Speaker 1: To get down.
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  Speaker 8: It's your night.
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  Speaker 6: It's your night.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Inside Out, or Inside... Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 5: Inside Out.
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  Speaker 1: Inside Out, that interview was pretty good.
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  Speaker 4: Inside Out, Llewyn Davis.
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  Speaker 1: Inside Out.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that a movie?
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  Speaker 3: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown. Produced and
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  Speaker 3: edited by The Oddity Studios. With opening music performed by
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  Speaker 2: Talk hard!