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#368 - For Azeroth!: “Midnight Pre Patch Madness” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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We used to think that world first Raiders were were crazy
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intense sweaty sweat Lords, but it turns out the housing mains
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are the crazy intense sweaty sweat Lords.
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These are the Animal Crossers, they're the Minecrafters,
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they're the farm villas, and they are nothing if not ultra
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efficient. Victory for the Forsaken.
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For Lauderon. For the Karen tour for.
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Pandaria for. Calendar.
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To the burning region for Gilnaeus, but has not done for
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the Lich King for the Sindora. For the alliance.
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For the Horn for Azeroth. Hello and welcome to another
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episode of For Azeroth. I'm one of your hosts, Sean.
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Today I am joined by the incomparable Flex Rance Lex.
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How you doing? I'm doing great.
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I'm 50% of the show today. Yeah, we are both 50% of the
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show. That's crazy.
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All listeners who only TuneIn for Manny, he's not here today,
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so you could hit stop right now. Mark has played and it'll go to
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your folder. You'll never see it again.
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But for those of you who's sticking around, you've got
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what's that thing where people would like they've merged their
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names like Bennifer. If we merged our names, we would
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be. We'd be LON.
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Yeah, LON, we're going to go with LON.
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We would be. LON Welcome to the LON show.
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Welcome to the LON show. Yeah, way better than the
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alternative. What I almost said our names
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would be if they were mixed together.
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Lex, how has the World of Warcraft been treating you?
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Manny would have cut all that out.
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Listeners, you're welcome. It's just us.
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You get the absolute unhinged, minimal news.
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It's going to be so great. That's.
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Right, all vibes. So this has been an interesting
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week. I have.
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So I was reading Beyond the Dark Portal and I was like, wow.
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I'm finding myself consistently frustrated and annoyed with the
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writing style and the, you know, kind of archaic writing of a
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book from 2008. There's there's one solution to
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the situation of me not lighting this, like liking this writing
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style. And it turns out it was me
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buying Warcraft free Forge. So I have spent the last week
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very slowly. I started on Warcraft one and
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let's be I'm going to be so for real you guys, I'm not good at
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real time strategy. This blew everyone's mind.
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Everyone was expecting me to be a real time strategy.
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Absolute whiz, I'm sure. See I'm really bad at it.
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I think I'm on like the the 5th campaign at this point.
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The the second one. No, the the third one took me so
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long. Like when they first start, you
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have to like actually attack the orcs.
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Yeah, it's I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not good at it, but I'm
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having, I'm having a really good time.
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I'm understanding why people played this game.
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So yeah, I logged on approximately an hour ago to
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play pre patch. So I could say that I played pre
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patch on the show. Nice, nice.
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Let's stick it on this Warcraft a little bit.
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So is this your first time playing through?
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Because your dad played the Warcraft series, didn't he?
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Yes, he was He was a Warcraft man from the beginning and moved
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right into obviously World of Warcraft when that came out, But
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I so I don't remember him playing Warcraft one.
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The more I play Warcraft one, the more I feel like I this is a
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very skippable game. I'm having fun using it to teach
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like as a way to teach me real time strategy technique, but
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it's there's no real lore. The there's just this weird
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little scene in the middle, like between every single campaign.
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And it's just, I guess, you know, in Lothar it's not super
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clear who's apparently eating. He's just chewing and he has a
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big like stick of meat, like a like a, you know, a drumstick, a
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big, you know, Renfair drumstick.
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And it has like a hole in the middle, not like a bite mark,
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like a hole drilled through it. So in in Lothar does not.
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I'm a little confused about him. And then I guess like just the
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most generic wizard you've seen in your life.
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And it just, it's, it's the same guy who voices everything.
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I'm sure somebody knows who that is.
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I probably should know who that is.
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But one the same voice for everything, which is a little
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bit like it took me a while to get used to.
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But now I, I just have accepted that I will not be able to tell
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my peasants from my, my Wizards from my freaking footman.
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But yeah, yeah. So I, I, I will see whether or
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not I finished Warcraft one or whether I give up and decide I
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want a little bit of storyline and move to Warcraft 2.
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But. Does the book?
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Are you appreciating the now? I don't know who wrote The Dark
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Beyond the Dark Portal, but based on your description I'm
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going to say was it Richard Mack?
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No, it was Aaron Rosen. Well, so this is the weird
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thing. It was Aaron Rosenberg and
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Christy Golden. Oh.
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I know and I I so I really think a lot of.
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Christie. Love Christie.
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I was so surprised that, well, I, I think a lot of the problem
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is I don't, I don't think they were given a lot to work with
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because they have a huge tendency to repeat descriptors.
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Like every time Alaria is introduced in any scene, they
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describe her as a beautiful Ranger.
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Like I'm so sick of people talking about how beautiful and
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not even like talking about how beautiful Alaria is it just,
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she's beautiful. Like they just throw the every
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time. Oh, and the beautiful Ranger
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with her beautiful Ranger hands like constantly.
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If I hear one more time the CAD guard has an aged face and
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youthful eyes, I'm going to. Throw a.
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Fit like it's absurd. I'm so over it.
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But I understand that that's more just them, not like they
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only had a limited amount of things to go through.
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The other thing that I think I find myself bothered with, and
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this is this is something that I've known annoys me with like
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early 2000s video game writing in general, is it's just so rule
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of cool focused. But like if every single scene,
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someone's getting decapitated and someone's getting sliced in
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two, and then someone is casting a big powerful spell and then
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someone else is getting decapitated and this part of
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like it ceases to be cool. It is just all right, everyone's
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overpowered and none of this is meaningful.
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Let's go, let's go, let's go. So I think it's mostly just the
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the fact that the writing has aged.
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But if you were feeling down on World of Warcraft's writing,
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it's gotten better. It's gotten better.
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The beautiful Ranger Illyria Windrunner pulled back on her
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bow with her beautiful hand to lose a beautiful arrow into the
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orcs beautiful face. I'm going to lose my mind.
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If you want to do a solo show, all yours, but if anyone was
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wondering, Ted Gar was artificially aged as they really
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want to make sure I remember. Yeah, but as you can't, his
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eyes, like his face is aged, his body is aged, but his eyes are
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youth. They're super youth.
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Yeah, super youth. Like youthful?
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They're really, really youthful and everything's subtle too.
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That's another thing that like once I picked up on, it started
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to annoy me. Like there was one page where
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they used subtle twice and I'm like girl but it's OK.
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And also as as if if you're curious, if you're wondering
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whether or not you should join the discord at fit dot LY slash
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faz discord, you can find me complaining about historic,
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chronological, or lore inaccuracies that happen when
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you are writing books with multiple people writing
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different things over 2 decades. Will you carry on into Warcraft?
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Two kinds of darkness, I think that one is.
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Do I have types of darkness? So I think I have I should be
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able to see it, but for some reason I'm feeling stupid.
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I have Day of the Dragon. Day of the Dragon is the first
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book I have. I have not read it.
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And then I have Beyond the Dark Portal and then I have Night of
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the Dragon. And then I, I actually, I either
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have Rise, I don't know, I don't remember where Rise of the Horde
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is, But so I've been kind of popcorn ING these books in
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general, like reading one and then like, oh, what if I go over
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here? So I, I don't have them all in
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chronological order. I don't have all of the books.
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Do I have friends? I'm trying to remember Rise of
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the Horde is the one that I have or if it's the one that's like
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$500 because they only did one print and now it's crazy.
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It's expensive. Oh, that reminds me.
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Speaking of Rise of the Horde, Christie is selling a copy on
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her Etsy that I would like to buy on her Shopify that I would
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like to buy, but they only ship to the US.
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I'm leaving this in the show. If I sent you an E transfer for
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the money, can you buy it and have it shipped to your house
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and bring it for me at BlizzCon? Yeah, totally.
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OK, I'll do that off the air. I'm not going to get our.
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There's still informations aired.
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So you had a, you had a little bit of that.
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We're going to just move on like this never happened.
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Nobody's ever going to notice this.
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I'll make a note this. May or may not be tariff
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evasion, I don't know, but we're going to going for it.
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No, no, it's not tariff. Oh, is it tariff?
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It could be, yeah, I never thought of that.
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Screw it. It might be a warmer then
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anyway. X.
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You blocked on to the beta briefly.
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Oh what did you do? Did you dive in is your UIMS?
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Did you instantly install LVY like I did?
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So I'm having a great time because my UI was always a mess
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so I logged in. I'm like oh nothing changed.
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What's? The thing it's a little tidier.
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Yeah, exactly. So I really OK, I'm a really bad
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podcaster. Surprise, surprise.
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You guys can go write your mean comments.
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Anyway, I'm a really bad podcaster because I've been
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doing this for so long and I logged in today and I was like,
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wow, I'm excited to test out the pre patched storyline quest,
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which drops on the 27th by the way, So don't don't do that.
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That's I mean you can try. You can also log in and say I
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wonder, I wonder what the pre touch event this time is and you
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can be just as disappointed as me because that drops on the
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27th. So I logged in.
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So what I ended up doing was jumping into endeavor.
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So I I think we all have the same one.
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We're all grumble yeah, of course, because there were a
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million people in grumble world. So yes, we all have the same
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one. No.
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I you have a choice. Oh yeah.
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Each neighborhood gets to choose from 3:00, so we all have the
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same 3 to choose from. And then you choose whatever one
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your neighborhood chose. You can go and do and buy the
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vendors, but if you want the other ones, you can go to other
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people's neighborhoods that have those ones and buy the stuff
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from their vendors. Geely Yeah.
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So what other options? Are there?
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Yeah. So Kniffin was one Drac Theor
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was one is the third one that grumbles.
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Yeah, well, that's the word. Yeah, so those are the options.
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So hot tip, if you're somebody who's looking to get the
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endeavors, buy all the stuff from the Endeavors Beck LFG,
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because there's lots of groups that are like, hey, I have
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Niffin completed, come to my neighborhood, go see the vendor.
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Yeah, people who goes grumbles. Completed.
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Yeah, lots of people did. Yeah, the housing community are
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fiends. We used to think that World
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First Raiders were or crazy intense sweaty sweatlords, but
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it turns out the housing mains are the crazy intense sweaty
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sweatlords. These are the Animal Crossers,
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they're the Minecrafters, they're the farm villas, and
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they are nothing if not ultra efficient.
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Sean, the fact that you don't know this makes me think that
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you've never watched a SIM like a really high level Sims creator
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stream. No I play The Sims one the first
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Sims and didn't put a door in my house and my person died and
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then I never turned it back on and I've never watched The Sims
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again. Wait, that was not on purpose.
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No, I was traumatized. I mean, I so no, I wanted to see
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what would happen with no door. And it turns out they get really
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unhappy. Yeah.
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Yeah. And then they die of
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unhappiness, which, Yeah. So no, no, no, Yeah, People that
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sort of creative world is I'm not quite there.
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I'm not close to there. I I'm not that degree of, of
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energized about things like that.
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But you're right. They're they're crazy in a good
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way. This is a faction.
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It crazy, Yeah, we're not. We're not anywhere.
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We've like two of us have done things in the endeavors.
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We're nowhere near finished. OK, so but is it fun?
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What? What is an endeavor like?
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I didn't. I haven't endeavored to try them
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yet, so. At least the way that I'm doing
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it, it's basically like all of the most screw around parts of
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World of Warcraft just in your neighborhood, right?
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So if you want to go do silly little quests just for like just
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you know that aren't really going to give you much, but you
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just feel like doing quests in a day, you can go to, at least for
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us, it's the Kun Lao summit and you can just do quests for a
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while. If you want to do a little
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Easter egg hunt where you run around looking for glowy things
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on the ground, you pick them up. You can go run around glowy to
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glowy things, pick them up. If you want to do the little
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climbing mini games or like other silly little mini games
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that you get in world quests, you go, you go do the little
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mini games, right. It's really just the the most
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silly things in World of Warcraft all together.
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And when I again again, this is set affectionately, like I had a
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really good time. I just for an hour I was like, I
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want to play a video game for the sake of playing a video game
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and I don't want to worry too much about, you know,
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everything's perfect and I'm mid maxing and it's all amazing.
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You know, we're just going to go have fun.
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And I did that and it was really fun.
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It was fun to just do quests and none of the matter.
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And you get like 2 gold and who cares?
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And eventually they give a little Oh Dang, you got a little
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housing. I think it's 5 quest gives you a
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little bit of housing stuff. And then so there's all sorts of
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activities and some of them are also like more intense, right?
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Like you can go do delves, you can do mythic plus, you can kill
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raid bosses, things like that. Whenever you complete an
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achievement or like a little subsection thing, you get a
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little bit of points for the endeavour as a whole.
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And you also get some coupons that I don't fully understand
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yet because I don't think we've unlocked anything and our
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venture. But so currently we're all just
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kind of doing the little the little fun things.
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And I think it's going to go much faster once we're in like
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not pre patched because again, there is, you know, all these
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are all repeatable. I think they're all repeatable.
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So like every I think it's like 10.
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It's not ten. I mean, certain number of delves
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you do, you're going to get some credit every, you know, mythic
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plus you do you get some credit. A brave boss as you kill, you
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get some credit. And so when your entire Guild is
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off doing things and they're collecting their herbs and then
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they get some credit and they're, you know, some people
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are playing the silly games in the, the neighborhood, they get
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some credit and, you know, some people are off grinding mythic
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plus they get some credit. Like that's going to build up
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much quicker. But right now our Guild is kind
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of on pretty, pretty solid hiatus.
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And so we're being, we're not, we're not moving too fast.
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We're taking our time. Yeah, we're.
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Just hanging out. We have 39 days that's.
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Right. You get all kinds of time.
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You get all kinds of time. I love it.
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I people have been going crazy for endeavors like it's a wild
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it's like a whole new part of Warcraft has been unlocked with
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housing. There are people who don't give
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any cares. They give no ducks for the lore,
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for the stories, for the rating, for the mythic.
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They just want housing and those people are thriving right now.
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There are so many of them, it's frightening.
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The player base will soon be outnumbered I think by housing
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mates and I'm OK with it because they're all like super chill and
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lovely, so let's get more of them.
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The one thing that was really striking to me and me again,
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this is probably that I was doing it wrong, but it kept
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while I was doing the endeavor today, I kept thinking like, I
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feel like I'm not being as efficient as I could.
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And then I'm like, ah, but it's a video game.
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Like this was the, the first time in a while that I've played
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World of Warcraft and it's felt like I was just playing a game
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for the sake of fun and not doing work to achieve the next
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thing that I can then push for so I can do more work, so I can
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achieve the next thing. Which I mean, I, I'm, I love,
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right. Like, I'm a writer.
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I love doing that grind and, and doing the, you know, learning
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the certain fights and, and figuring out what I need next
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and talking my team about. Like, that's, that is fun for
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me. I'm not unhappy about that.
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But sometimes it's nice to just log on and play a game because
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you want to play a game. Yeah.
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Yeah, for sure. And Speaking of the patch day, I
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mean, mean, it's going to extend it a couple of times.
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So it did go long, but it was a pretty massive patch.
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It was coming in like a big change.
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The team was on top of it. They gave us a bunch of advance
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warnings. I think it got extended by, I
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want to say 3 hours and then one hour.
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So it ended up coming back at about 9:00 PM Eastern roughly.
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And there was some issues, faction changing was breaking
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transmog. Some raid bosses had 50 HP.
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Oh like not 50,000, not 5050. They had 50 HP.
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Thumb gear was not scalable, others was.
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But for the most part I think like awful, groundbreaking
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nobody. You can't play, there's nothing
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you can do. It was a pretty good patch
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launch, so kudos to the team for that.
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And on top of that, I am happy to announce that the raid is
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properly, I don't know properly to the right word, but the raid
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is very, very, very accessible right now.
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Yeah, they were. So for a reference the Mythic
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Dementias fight pre midnight patch, it would be commonplace
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for teams to transition from phase one after the 4th or just
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as the 4th slam was about to happen.
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And common for teams to get the kill on dementias in phase three
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around the time of like just after that second devour when
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the the next set of grips are coming.
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Last night teams were phasing from P1 before the 1st slam and
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killing dementias before the 1st devourer.
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So it might have been the second slam, it might have been the
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second slam. But anyway, very early, so the
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nerfs that they made, they worked.
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You know, it's these fights shouldn't be hard.
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People should be able to just walk in and push these over
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right now. And that's the way that it
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looks. So if you're a Raider, great.
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If you're somebody who's looking for the mount, you could
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probably find one cheap. I imagine prices are going to go
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down a little bit with it being as easy to clear as it is if
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you're buying it. But maybe just throw a group
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together, ask one of your buddies if they have a lock for
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Dementius and I'm going to give it a couple of poles.
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Maybe you get a kill. Yeah, So it's not too bad.
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This is good because I know last week we were stressed that all
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of the changes together we're going to mean that it wasn't
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going to be tuned enough. And so, yeah, it's good to know
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the after you just cut big numbers off everything, if
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you're like actually like 50% health gone.
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It's not that, not that. Hard to kill and mythic plus.
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So I am on the record as saying that I would quit podcasting if
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Blizzard didn't adjust Mythic plus, and I'm happy to say that
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the highest Halls of atonement that was completed pre patch was
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I think a 22 and today a solo havoc Demon Hunter timed a + 40.
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So those have also been tuned. Yay.
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It's kind. It's kind of bonkers out there.
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It's kind of bonkers. The squish worked, folks.
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So Sean, a question I know part of the the concern, the reason
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that you said that you were going to quit podcasting if
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Mythic Plus wasn't tuned was because you felt like a thing
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that was really exciting and fun for you was kind of being taken
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away. And why are you playing the game
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then, now that it's sort of face role, does it still kind of feel
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like a fun thing is taken away because it's just yeah or.
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OK, yeah, I love that. I really like feeling like a
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God. I think that's.
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I think, listen, I I respect the grind, I respect the work.
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I understand that games need challenge to be fun, and that's
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why sometimes I play real time strategy and get myself wiped
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off the map 10 times by works. But I I do sometimes it's fun to
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just go in and like blast. And yeah, if that was the entire
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expansion, like if nothing had challenged and everything rolled
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over, World of Warcraft would be boring.
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But I think pretty patch is the time to be silly and to have fun
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for the sake of fun. Yeah, and for clarity, that plus
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40 was completed in 9 minutes solo.
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This is classic Havoc Havoc even Hunter behavior alone, I think.
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I think that a solo Havoc Demon Hunter has always been able to
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time a + 40. We were just holding back
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because we didn't want you guys to feel bad.
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Was this you, Lex? Yeah, of course.
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Let me see, let me look up the character name.
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Lex T rants. Oh my God.
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Oh yeah, of course. As you guys know, I am famous
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for pushing high mythic plus keys.
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It must. Be really confusing if you are
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getting into for Azeroth like in the last few episodes and you're
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like Wow, they really do have one of everyone.
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They have someone who's great at PvP and also pushes keys and
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also a mythic Raider. And then I guess they have these
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like Sean and Manny to like play the the casual side.
22:11
If anybody heard you during your PvP claim to title fame and then
22:18
heard the number that you said you felt was the high enough
22:21
number for title that they do, that was a good PvP.
22:25
Yeah, they're aware. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
22:29
They're aware that I'm on top of the charts.
22:31
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
22:33
You're nailing it. Yeah, overall, pretty good
22:36
launch. So we're doing people are right
22:38
and they like, if you went on Twitch today, it was literally
22:40
just every stream was building my UI and then everybody was
22:44
using some amalgamation of the tools that are out there and
22:47
available. I myself spent the day building
22:49
my UII didn't stream it though and I kept it very simple.
22:53
I used LVY and life was good. LVY is was late coming back but
23:00
it's old faithful. It's something I've used in the
23:01
past so I threw it on there. Tweaks UI is another one that I
23:05
know a lot of people in my Guild were using.
23:07
Was getting good traction and unhalted unit frames and the
23:11
better cooldown manager which is done by the same demos on all
23:14
the unit frames. I think those three were the
23:16
most popular ones that I saw bouncing around my Guild and my
23:19
friend groups. And then there was some we're
23:21
not going to get into drama. We don't drama pedal here on For
23:24
Azeroth. But there was some drama that
23:26
some of the more popular add-ons that had been leading the charge
23:31
in beta, it turns out stole some of their code wholesale from
23:36
other new add-ons in the beta. Now you know it's a question of
23:41
did they copy and paste it and just change the variable names
23:45
or did they happen to put the exact same prompt into Claude
23:48
and get the same result when they built it when they bought?
23:52
Nobody knows for sure, but there was some drama running around.
23:55
All I'm saying is for you to land on an AUI, go ahead and pop
24:01
into the Discord for that UI. Just get a sense of the the vibe
24:04
of the the atmosphere. Make sure because you don't want
24:07
to get stuck on something or block into something and then
24:09
have it have no coverage or no support in the next three weeks,
24:12
that'll be off. Or have it not know how to do
24:15
hands. Or have the have the dev not
24:18
have any idea how to do any of it.
24:21
You just log in and all of a sudden you're like 2 fingers.
24:23
You're like, OK, your chains don't work right.
24:27
The earring holes are in different places than your
24:30
earrings. You're like, something's up
24:32
here. Yeah, I feel like it wasn't like
24:34
this when I left. Yeah.
24:37
So that I mean, that was it was it's been a mostly by a week.
24:41
So we we left the weekend was not much news because we were
24:43
getting ready. We had a new video come out for
24:46
the launch to midnight, which had some fun clips in it.
24:49
And then another interview where they talked about redesigning N
24:53
trend for the last Titan that we were going to talk about.
24:55
But the more I think about it, I feel like we should push that
24:57
off a little bit like we're not even in midnight yet.
25:00
So I think maybe we'll talk about last Titan video a little
25:02
closer. The last that's Titan this.
25:06
Is also my feeling about BlizzCon.
25:09
I'm really worried about like, what are we really going to
25:13
announce? Because I don't really want to
25:15
hear about Last Titan when we're, you know what, 6 months,
25:19
seven. I can do math seven months into
25:22
midnight. Do we do a BlizzCon announcement
25:25
prediction right now? Oh, sure.
25:29
Do you want to go first? I'll.
25:30
Yeah, I'll go first. Not that you need time to think
25:32
of yours because you're just being gracious to let me go 1st
25:36
and I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
25:38
So I think overall, the biggest thing we're going to get Blues
25:42
come, we're going to get that StarCraft announcement
25:43
everyone's talking about. It's going to be a, it's not
25:45
just going to be 1 game, it's going to be 3 games, going to be
25:49
a StarCraft first person shooter.
25:52
It's going to be a new StarCraft RTS and then a StarCraft mobile
25:59
game. So you think that's the mobile
26:01
game? Yeah.
26:02
So those three I think are the big like this is, hey, this is
26:05
what's happening at BlizzCon now.
26:06
Warcraft specific, specific to Warcraft, I think we're going to
26:13
be getting 11 point, sorry, 12.2 information because at that
26:18
point we will already have 12.1 and I think we'll be in it.
26:22
We will have just got into it. So we'll already have 12.1
26:25
information, but too late to get that.
26:26
But I think we're going to get 12.2 information and while I do
26:30
think they might give us a glimpse of Last Titan, I think
26:34
they will tease that there is something beyond Last Titan
26:37
instead. Those are my big predictions.
26:40
So 12.2 and then like a post Last Titan tease.
26:44
Now, I don't necessarily think that the last Titan is the last
26:46
expansion that they're going to give.
26:48
But if I was a major company that bought a studio that didn't
26:51
want to keep running the same game, I would tell them you have
26:53
a trilogy to wrap this up. I don't think that's the case.
26:57
I don't think that's what's, I don't think that's what's
27:00
happening on this show where we're positive on other shows
27:03
where I'm less positive and that could be the prediction I give.
27:06
But yeah, but I'm really happy with the StarCraft because I
27:08
think we're getting 3 StarCraft announcements.
27:11
OK, I would believe because I was actually feeling really as
27:14
as a big Rumble girly. I was kind of annoyed when they
27:18
mentioned that there was a mobile game in the works and I'm
27:21
like, you just killed one. It's like a great one.
27:25
Less than a year ago, you killed your mobile game and you're
27:28
bringing back a new one. But not to be a girl who's like,
27:31
I just got into War of Warcraft before.
27:33
It's my entire personality for this podcast.
27:35
But I do actually feel like real time strategy makes a lot of
27:38
sense on a phone game. Like, yeah, there's totally,
27:41
100% should go in. And to be fair, that was
27:43
basically what Rumble was, right?
27:45
Like it was a essentially, I even remember when I was playing
27:48
Rumble and my dad looked over my shoulders like, Oh yeah, that's
27:51
like what we did in Warcraft. If it's if it's too much of A
27:55
Rumble clone, I'm going to I'm going to make some more grumpy
27:57
noise. Feeling like a Plants versus
27:58
Zombies where you're building turrets and you're shooting
28:00
Zerg. OK, we low key love that.
28:05
Sort of. So.
28:09
I will also say the fact that at the last blitz con we had just
28:13
gotten Rumble was really, really big because Liz Con is such a
28:17
line fest. And so having a thing that
28:19
everyone can do in a line that we all can either bond over or
28:23
you can kind of, you know, sit back and dissociate a little bit
28:26
because everything's loud. That was a game changer.
28:28
Like I genuinely do not think that Blizz Con would have been
28:30
as fun if we didn't all have a fun little game that we could,
28:33
you know, pluck away at. So can.
28:35
You imagine the opening ceremony they big screen hits.
28:40
Boom. StarCraft Zurd versus Terrans
28:42
versus Protoss and it's a plants versus zombies clones and you
28:45
can play it today we pre downloaded it onto your phone
28:50
they're. Like we know you have phones
28:54
now. That's right, that.
28:55
'D be great. Yeah I I do.
28:59
So I do think that we will get a look at what is happening after
29:04
Last Titan just because they did at the last Liz con they gave us
29:08
3 expansions in one. And I agree that I don't really
29:10
want lore spoilers for Last Titan or what's coming after it,
29:15
but you are not the first person to suggest that a trilogy like
29:21
talking about how they want to finish up these stories feels
29:26
interesting. Like, what are we moving for
29:28
then? Like what's happening?
29:30
So I think either there will be a very large, exciting or
29:35
stressful announcement coming there, or they will assuage our
29:40
fears by telling us that they have another expansion in the
29:44
works. And here's what it is.
29:45
And here's the basic information.
29:48
I do want to be clear that on this show for Azeroth, I do not
29:51
think that Last Titan is the end.
29:53
I don't I mean World War have Prince money still, like I mean
29:57
it doesn't, but it does right. Like it's not as much as it was
30:01
in the golden age, but. I'm not getting nervous, right?
30:03
Microsoft likes to buy things and close them.
30:06
Right. You know well.
30:07
So that is how I think that's what happened with Rumble.
30:11
That's what happened with the game that got killed, the
30:15
survival game, I I think. But I The thing is that Blizzard
30:20
like World of Warcraft is Blizzard right?
30:23
And it's still, I think, I guess I don't really know numbers
30:27
compared to Final Fantasy, but I think it's still the largest and
30:31
most income generating MMORPG we have.
30:36
I see. I mean, I can imagine a world
30:38
where it goes on life support and they pull devs off of it.
30:43
I but even then. We're getting something after
30:47
and we're getting the show. I'm doubling down Lex.
30:49
I'm doubling down. We're getting something after.
30:51
We're going to Air Thor. We're going to fight the Arathi
30:56
and we're going to fight future and when, because everybody
30:58
knows that's who the the Emperor of Air Thor is.
31:00
It's and when from the future. There's a total time travel
31:03
thing. They love time travel.
31:05
And we're getting an announcement of a Warcraft
31:07
animated series on Apple TV. Fingers crossed it's Apple.
31:10
They do such good work, such quality work.
31:13
Crazy, I've never. Oh my God.
31:15
Apple TV was no Apple TV. Apple TV is amazing.
31:20
OK, yeah, there's like, I don't know if you have access to Apple
31:24
TV, but there is a list of shows.
31:26
I I know about what's the one that everyone knows of not
31:30
succession, severance. Severance is amazing, Silo is
31:34
amazing, Foundation is really good.
31:37
The Morning show, the first season was they do the first
31:39
season of the morning show was good.
31:41
The servant other single word was good.
31:44
That's a one episode or one that's no, it's like three
31:47
seasons a servant. Those are all fantastic.
31:50
There's one where it's called bad Sisters where this woman's
31:54
husband's abusive and then he ends up dead and they got to
31:59
try. The police think the sisters
32:01
killed them, so they're trying to figure it out and hilarity
32:02
ensues. It's really good.
32:05
Yeah. Anyway, you got to get Apple if
32:07
you don't have Apple TV, Lex, you got to get Apple.
32:08
Even if you have a friend who has Apple TV, they can put you
32:11
on their family plan. You can have the six people on
32:13
your family plan. Mine's full where I would offer
32:15
you a spot on mine and then you get access to it.
32:17
It's so good. I am like a huge Apple TV.
32:20
It's by far the best quality streaming service available.
32:25
Apple TV If you're looking to sponsor a show, we have proven
32:29
that we'll just do an ad for you in the middle of ours for free.
32:33
Right. Yeah.
32:35
Whoops. No, no, no.
32:37
Yeah. OK, That's that.
32:39
I, I would love there to be a World of Warcraft show.
32:42
I do think I I think we've talked a little bit about the
32:44
time that I watched the Warcraft movie.
32:47
And I really, I think the reason that war World of Warcraft, the
32:53
the why the movie suffered so much is because it just got so
32:56
in the weeds. Like it was trying to tell a
32:59
story that our argument, frankly, that I've been told a
33:01
few times, right? The early Warcraft it there's
33:04
novels of it, there's the actual games, there's chronicles.
33:08
Like those of us who know the story, we know it so all, which
33:13
also means that, you know, we're kind of if there's like it has
33:16
to be word by word by word exactly the same.
33:20
And they just, I think bit off way more than they can chew.
33:22
And they also, I feel like they jumped in at a kind of a
33:25
confusing place and ended up anyway.
33:27
I don't think they picked the right story there.
33:28
But the lore has so much possibility.
33:32
Like we talk all the time about how the, you know, side quests
33:35
are huge. It's so beautiful and exciting.
33:37
Like I, I don't think they should do a story of the main
33:42
characters because I think that that is overdone and requires so
33:48
much information and you have to get into these like, and here's
33:51
Corona and this is but she was a slave, but then she would kill
33:55
the with her friend. Like it.
33:57
There's just too much right. Versus if you have little spin
34:01
offs and maybe, you know, Oh, here's the beautiful range of
34:05
Hilaria and that she's out of the scene and we're caring about
34:08
the actual thing going on here, you know?
34:12
What my favorite call back the show's ever done.
34:15
I'm so sick of it. I'm convinced she at this point
34:18
the contrarian of me has decided that I think hilarious ugly just
34:21
because I'm so mad at them telling me so many times that
34:23
she's beautiful. I'm like, never mind.
34:24
I think she's hideous and I think the cat girl's eyes are
34:28
old. His face is normal, but his eyes
34:30
are so old. If they did a live action I
34:34
think they should do an animated series.
34:35
I think animated just because the world is so stylistic.
34:38
But if it is live action, who would she want to play?
34:40
The beautiful Ranger? Hilaria Windrunner.
34:43
Don't ask me to name actress. You go first.
34:49
Time to think about it. Who?
34:50
Are you ready to hate? Who would I pick?
34:53
Well, they were actually like Charlize Theron.
34:55
Somebody tall? I think she's quite tall.
34:59
That wouldn't be she. Might be too old to play
35:01
Illaria. Not the show least Theron is old
35:03
or looks old but Illaria is like young appearing Anya Taylor Joy,
35:09
the Queen's the Queen's gambit. I think she is.
35:13
She looks ethereal. I think she would make a great
35:16
Illaria Windrunner. She is the beautiful Ranger
35:19
Illaria Windrunner. She was in Queen's Gambit and
35:21
the Gorge. I OK I I this is half baked I
35:27
feel like. I feel like she almost gives me
35:29
more self honest vibes. Like you see what?
35:33
You're saying, but there's. She looks like she could burn
35:36
down a whole tree full of people.
35:39
You're getting genocide vibes from her.
35:40
It's a weird. There's a like a an intent.
35:45
I don't know how to. It's a wild comms Lex.
35:53
I can see, I don't know, a, a darkness in her.
36:00
I don't know. I feel like she would do really
36:02
good as I I feel like she'd be a really good Sylvanus.
36:07
OK, see, Charlize, I'm. I'm so bad with faces and
36:13
everything. If something was not obviously
36:15
written for somebody, I'm just utterly cooked.
36:19
I feel like Charlize Theron is such an obvious choice though,
36:21
because that's like what she plays like.
36:22
That is the character of Charlize Theron.
36:24
I like Charlize Theron a lot. I really liked her in Mad Max as
36:27
Furiosa. I thought she was incredible in
36:29
that. Yeah, I think she would work.
36:33
And I'm happy casting Anya Taylor Joy as her genocidal
36:36
sister. Yeah, and she sees such darkness
36:39
in her eyes. I just think it would work.
36:42
I think that would. Be OK listeners, let us know you
36:47
tell us. Come into bit dot LY slash fast
36:48
discord. Don't be weird about it, just
36:50
tell us which you. Can be weird about it.
36:52
Wait. Oh, don't be weird about it.
36:53
Don't be weird about it. I take it back.
36:54
Yeah. I was.
36:56
Immediately, No, I, I, I was thinking like, I don't know,
36:59
joining the Discord weirdly, like, you can't do that, babes.
37:02
Well, everyone's welcome here, but no, please don't be weird
37:05
about actresses. Yeah, come on and let us know
37:07
who you think would be a good Illyria.
37:08
A beautiful Illyria. And running.
37:11
Beautiful Ranger. Your fingers, yeah.
37:13
Is that what they say? Slender fingers constantly.
37:16
Little kind of sausage fingers. Well then you're not the
37:20
beautiful beautiful. Ranger, I guess I'm out of the
37:23
running. I can't play Illyria.
37:26
Yeah. Let us know what you think.
37:27
Let us know if you also think Anya Taylor Joy looks like a
37:30
mass murderer. Like Lexus.
37:32
Which is? See.
37:33
That I just I feel like there's AI don't know.
37:36
I'm going to stop trying justifying.
37:38
His darkness. I'm going to.
37:39
I'm just going to keep twisting it.
37:41
Lex. I don't really have anything
37:41
else to talk about. And I know it's not been an
37:43
hour, but I sometimes feel like less is more.
37:47
Yeah. If you guys want to listen to us
37:49
ramble constantly I guess sucks to suck because this is static
37:53
media and so the second that we stop recording it's over.
37:57
Yeah, but if you're a part of the Patreon, you get the full
38:00
pre show and post show, which isn't very much more and not any
38:07
more exciting, but it's there and you got it.
38:09
I. Swear a ton more she.
38:11
Does she does all right? Well, I think that's it folks.
38:15
Get out there, dive into the pre patch, get your UI set up, jump
38:18
into that raid, have some fun, enjoy the World of Warcraft, get
38:21
into housing, and above all else, may all your hits be
38:25
crits.