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- 0:06Speaker 1: All right, the page has been turned on the rundown,
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Show with Preston Scott common Sense amplified for Show five thousand,
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- 0:50Speaker 1: how are you?
- 0:52Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you well?
- 0:54Speaker 1: You know I feel like I need to take my
- 0:56Speaker 1: temperature about every fifteen minutes. Right, it's the news. I
- 1:01Speaker 1: was struggling today to put together the show because the
- 1:05Speaker 1: number of significant, big stories is just endless. So I
- 1:11Speaker 1: thought I would get your considerable insight. You are the
- 1:14Speaker 1: one that warned us, and I oft repeated what you
- 1:17Speaker 1: said about the New York City elections. Now that mom,
- 1:21Speaker 1: Donnie has won. What are your thoughts.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I think this is just the beginning, That's what I think.
- 1:28Speaker 2: I think we're about to see another wave, another resurgence
- 1:32Speaker 2: of socialism in America. I don't know if it will
- 1:36Speaker 2: be as successful as the last wave, or maybe maybe
- 1:40Speaker 2: it'll be more successful. We're going to find out. But
- 1:44Speaker 2: I think that we are on the verge of potentially
- 1:49Speaker 2: having a socialist president of the United States. I think
- 1:52Speaker 2: that's coming within eight years or so, and I'm very
- 1:57Speaker 2: concerned about it.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Should it be allowed, and to hear me out, and
- 2:02Speaker 1: we might have touched on this before. I'm struggling with
- 2:06Speaker 1: the idea that someone who is a socialist or a
- 2:09Speaker 1: communist can run for office in this country. And to
- 2:13Speaker 1: those that say, well, they'll just lie about it. Yeah,
- 2:15Speaker 1: But if they lie about it and govern differently than
- 2:18Speaker 1: what our constitution allows, they're kicked out of office. It's
- 2:21Speaker 1: that simple, yeah.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I mean, I think the problem is once you start
- 2:26Speaker 2: going down that road, then everyone will be thrown out.
- 2:30Speaker 2: It will be prevented from running because there'll be some
- 2:32Speaker 2: sort of alleged qualification that they're not meeting ideologically. But
- 2:36Speaker 2: I agree with you that it is impossible impossible to
- 2:40Speaker 2: be a true socialist, which so Ron Mamdani is. In fact,
- 2:44Speaker 2: he's a communist. He's not just a socialist, he's an
- 2:48Speaker 2: actual Marxist communist, that's what he is. And I think
- 2:52Speaker 2: it's impossible to be a communist and be say that
- 2:58Speaker 2: you're going to support and defend the Constitution of the
- 3:01Speaker 2: United States or the laws of the various states or
- 3:04Speaker 2: anything like that. I just don't think it's possible for
- 3:06Speaker 2: you to take an honest oath of office in most
- 3:09Speaker 2: places in this country and be a communist. So I
- 3:13Speaker 2: don't know, you know, so I agree with you on
- 3:15Speaker 2: that front, I really do. I just I think at
- 3:19Speaker 2: the end of the day, we get the government that
- 3:21Speaker 2: we deserve as a people, understood, and if we get
- 3:24Speaker 2: a socialist or a communist running the largest city in America,
- 3:29Speaker 2: it's because there's something fundamentally wrong with the people at
- 3:33Speaker 2: this point and we need to change or we're going
- 3:37Speaker 2: to get this kind of government and we're going to
- 3:39Speaker 2: have we're going to reap what we sew.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Justin, is there any chance and you could call
- 3:45Speaker 1: me way too optimistic, but is there a chance that
- 3:49Speaker 1: in the one year that happens between now and the midterms,
- 3:53Speaker 1: that Mom Donnie will go so far so fast that
- 3:58Speaker 1: New York he's out. The people that support it leave.
- 4:03Speaker 1: All they have are a bunch of illegals moving in.
- 4:06Speaker 1: They go to this thirty dollars minimum wage, They go
- 4:08Speaker 1: to this nonsense of free bussing, which of course isn't free.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And we see the results and enough people see it
- 4:15Speaker 1: to go, yeah, that's not for us.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're do you act? Do you believe that? Well?
- 4:24Speaker 1: Do I believe that it's possible. Do I believe that
- 4:27Speaker 1: he'll do it? I don't know if he's sophisticated enough
- 4:30Speaker 1: to just slow himself down. If he doesn't, it could
- 4:34Speaker 1: actually be the best chance we have to beat it,
- 4:39Speaker 1: because it will collapse on itself in New York City.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So here's the thing. I would love to
- 4:45Speaker 2: believe that the American voters are would do that, would
- 4:49Speaker 2: look at even if it is catastrophic, they would look
- 4:51Speaker 2: at that. We don't want that. But the reality is,
- 4:55Speaker 2: after what we saw with Black Lives Matters and some
- 4:57Speaker 2: of the insane things that they were doing there with
- 5:00Speaker 2: COVID and some of the insane things that were happening
- 5:03Speaker 2: in the lockdowns and all of that. You had whole
- 5:05Speaker 2: cities being taken over or large parts of cities being
- 5:08Speaker 2: taken over in places like Seattle. You had riots in
- 5:12Speaker 2: Portland attacking federal buildings, and people still went out and
- 5:15Speaker 2: voted Democrats.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let me try to make an argument,
- 5:20Speaker 1: and I'm not going to disagree with you, but I'm
- 5:23Speaker 1: going to try to convince you for the half glass
- 5:25Speaker 1: full out of this nonsense that is the socialist takeover
- 5:29Speaker 1: in New York City. Hang on, Justin Haskins, vice president
- 5:33Speaker 1: of policy with the Heartland Institute, senior fellow, and more importantly,
- 5:38Speaker 1: our guest this morning here on the program. He joins
- 5:40Speaker 1: us once a month. Here's my argument, Justin, and why
- 5:43Speaker 1: it's so important to me personally, is because the capital
- 5:46Speaker 1: city of Florida is literally one elected seat from being socialist.
- 5:50Speaker 1: They aren't as bold as calling themselves that, but that's
- 5:53Speaker 1: what they are, and they're one vote away. And here's
- 5:56Speaker 1: here's where I say it's a different scenario. Then you
- 6:00Speaker 1: correctly point out Black Lives Matter, Clantifa, all the stuff
- 6:03Speaker 1: that we've seen on the left coast. But the difference
- 6:06Speaker 1: to me is the policies of socialism, when enacted, are
- 6:10Speaker 1: largely economic and in the big Apple now, the big
- 6:14Speaker 1: red Apple, Right. I don't think there's a way to
- 6:19Speaker 1: escape the math that's coming to New York. You can't
- 6:22Speaker 1: do what mom Donnie's going to do without driving out
- 6:24Speaker 1: the people that would that would make it possible to
- 6:26Speaker 1: do it.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I I totally agree. And in a world governed
- 6:32Speaker 2: by reason and logic, that would be what happens.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think the math is going to win
- 6:38Speaker 1: the day. But the math is going to win the day.
- 6:41Speaker 2: There is there is a way out for them, and
- 6:44Speaker 2: the way out for them is to blame Donald Trump
- 6:46Speaker 2: and and and he is the boogeyman, and he will
- 6:49Speaker 2: still be presidents at that time, and they'll blame whatever
- 6:52Speaker 2: economic woes they're having and everyone else in America is
- 6:55Speaker 2: having on the Trump administration and the Republicans who are
- 6:58Speaker 2: running Congress, if they're STI running Congress at that time,
- 7:01Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen. And the reality is on
- 7:04Speaker 2: the left, they have decided, they have made they have
- 7:07Speaker 2: decided it's time for socialism again. We're going to give
- 7:10Speaker 2: this another go. And because they believe they never really
- 7:14Speaker 2: got a fair shot to try it. That's what they think.
- 7:18Speaker 2: You know, all the all the other times Communists, China, Venezuela,
- 7:22Speaker 2: you know, all those places in Gola, they don't count.
- 7:24Speaker 2: So this is a this is a new this their
- 7:26Speaker 2: this is their big chance. Bernie got screwed and the
- 7:29Speaker 2: two times that he ran for president, he got screwed.
- 7:32Speaker 2: This is their time to run again. This is their
- 7:33Speaker 2: time to make it happen, and they're going to get
- 7:35Speaker 2: their chance. Biden didn't go far enough. If they just
- 7:38Speaker 2: go further, they're going to win. Economic populism is the
- 7:41Speaker 2: wave of the future, and I think young people have
- 7:45Speaker 2: totally bought into this lie and they are willing to
- 7:48Speaker 2: give any strong man a chance right now because they're
- 7:52Speaker 2: not seeing positive results in their lives personally, and because
- 7:57Speaker 2: of that, because they feel like they've been screwed and
- 7:59Speaker 2: the economy is rigged against them, they are willing to
- 8:02Speaker 2: give any strong man a chance. And someone like Zoron
- 8:05Speaker 2: Mamdani or who knows AOC somebody else is going to
- 8:10Speaker 2: step into that role and is going to take charge
- 8:13Speaker 2: and is going to give socialism a real shot. And
- 8:15Speaker 2: whether we can survive that or not, it's a totally
- 8:18Speaker 2: different question.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I think New York by going this route,
- 8:22Speaker 1: they're twenty years down the road before they can recover
- 8:25Speaker 1: from what is coming their way now. And that's best
- 8:28Speaker 1: case scenario. Let's talk about the shutdown for a second, Justin,
- 8:33Speaker 1: we seem to see a light at the end of
- 8:35Speaker 1: that tunnel. Obviously, this was a battle of wills. I
- 8:40Speaker 1: don't know who really wins this thing. Do you have
- 8:42Speaker 1: your thoughts on a winner and a loser?
- 8:45Speaker 2: Well, I mean the public perception of it is that
- 8:48Speaker 2: the Democrats lost, which I suppose is something you know
- 8:52Speaker 2: that's positive.
- 8:52Speaker 1: I'll drink to that.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Other than that, I would say nobody really wins.
- 8:57Speaker 2: The American voter didn't win. All all this does is
- 9:01Speaker 2: restart a completely dysfunctional government yep, that isn't working for
- 9:06Speaker 2: us and is spending way too much money and enslaving
- 9:08Speaker 2: our children and generations after that with debt, and this
- 9:13Speaker 2: doesn't solve any of those problems.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Justin was just scolding me in the break for being
- 9:20Speaker 1: way too optimistic. But I will say, you have facts
- 9:26Speaker 1: on your side. Go ahead and break the news to
- 9:31Speaker 1: our listeners that you've totally depressed me with.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Okay, so we ran a poll at the Ireland and
- 9:36Speaker 2: to do with Raths Musselin reports national survey of voters
- 9:40Speaker 2: eighteen to thirty nine. So these are only voters under
- 9:43Speaker 2: forty likely voters, okay, and we asked them all sorts
- 9:47Speaker 2: of questions about socialism, including do you want a democratic
- 9:51Speaker 2: socialist to be president of the United States? In twenty
- 9:53Speaker 2: twenty eight, more than half fifty three percent said yes,
- 9:57Speaker 2: we do, including thirty five percent of people who said
- 10:02Speaker 2: that they voted for Donald Trump thirty five percent. And
- 10:05Speaker 2: it gets worse from there. Sixty two percent said that
- 10:08Speaker 2: the economy is unfair for young Americans. Fifty five percent
- 10:12Speaker 2: said that they would support a law that would confiscate
- 10:15Speaker 2: Americans quote excess wealth, including things like second homes, luxury cars,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and private boats, in order to help young people buy
- 10:22Speaker 2: a home for the first time. Seventy six percent said
- 10:26Speaker 2: that they strongly agree or somewhat agree with nationalizing major
- 10:30Speaker 2: industries like healthcare, energy, and big tech in order to
- 10:34Speaker 2: give more control and equity to the people. That included
- 10:37Speaker 2: a strong majority of people who self identified as Republicans
- 10:41Speaker 2: and Trump voters. So young people are turning to socialism
- 10:45Speaker 2: and it's radical socialism. And it doesn't matter if they're
- 10:48Speaker 2: a Republican or Democrat, if they voted for Trump or Kamala.
- 10:51Speaker 2: They want socialist policies and the left knows it, and
- 10:55Speaker 2: that's why they're running on this.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I know what I would pin that on, But what
- 10:59Speaker 1: do you pin that on? What led to these people
- 11:04Speaker 1: having this idea?
- 11:07Speaker 2: Well, there's a million reasons for it. I mean, there's
- 11:10Speaker 2: a fact that we've been teaching our kids in schools
- 11:12Speaker 2: for decades that you know, capitalism in America is terrible
- 11:16Speaker 2: and socialism is good. But I think the real heart
- 11:20Speaker 2: of this because we ask people and why do you
- 11:23Speaker 2: support democratic socialism, the number one response we got was
- 11:27Speaker 2: housing prices are too expensive? And so I think the
- 11:31Speaker 2: heart of all of this is young people feel like
- 11:33Speaker 2: the economy is rigged against them and that they can't
- 11:36Speaker 2: build wealth for themselves. And because they can't get wealth
- 11:39Speaker 2: for themselves, they've become their debt slaves. Because of college,
- 11:44Speaker 2: they can't afford to buy cars or homes. They look
- 11:48Speaker 2: at the world and they say, why not. This is
- 11:51Speaker 2: the only chance we have is to have things taken
- 11:53Speaker 2: from other people and given to us. The system was
- 11:56Speaker 2: never fair for us. And our parents had it better,
- 11:58Speaker 2: and our grandparents had it better than we do, and
- 12:00Speaker 2: it's not fair. And that's what they believe, and that's
- 12:02Speaker 2: what they've been taught their whole lives. And I think
- 12:05Speaker 2: that they are now voting on that idea, and there's
- 12:07Speaker 2: more and more of them now than they're were before,
- 12:10Speaker 2: and I think the problem is only going to get worse.
- 12:12Speaker 1: We have thirty seconds left before the promised time that
- 12:15Speaker 1: I said that, I said that I would get you
- 12:17Speaker 1: out if you go one step further. Is this really
- 12:22Speaker 1: a result of not teaching young people critical thinking skills? Oh?
- 12:28Speaker 2: And yeah, one hundred percent. And history, that's a huge,
- 12:33Speaker 2: huge part of it. In history, and giving them a
- 12:36Speaker 2: strong moral foundation for why, an objective standard of morality
- 12:42Speaker 2: for how you decide what is good and what is bad.
- 12:45Speaker 2: It isn't based on who gives you the most stuff.
- 12:47Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of young people believe today