Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / CURTIS & LARRY OPENING SEGMENT 10-15-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is a Oh man, let me tell you something.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Larry. Oh, by the way, gotta mention,
- 0:30Speaker 1: Natalie's away today, but in her stead is Chris the
- 0:35Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, on loan from Mark Simone, producer extraordinaire. You
- 0:40Speaker 1: wanna get at least one word out before we get
- 0:43Speaker 1: started here, Chris? If you were in politics, you would
- 0:48Speaker 1: be a disaster. It's a good thing I'm not in
- 0:51Speaker 1: politics then. I'm glad I'm not.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Wow. How many words was that?
- 0:56Speaker 1: A lot.
- 0:56Speaker 2: More than one or two. You're feeling good today. A
- 0:59Speaker 2: little bit, yeah. You're a little spunky today. I went
- 1:01Speaker 2: to bed early last night, so. Wow. He may not
- 1:04Speaker 2: be quiet today.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Can you imagine when he's texting or responding? You're probably
- 1:10Speaker 1: one of these guys who just uses simple acronyms.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Sometimes.
- 1:15Speaker 1: No explanations. No, I actually do like putting, like, correct
- 1:20Speaker 1: grammar in my text messages.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Oh, I put commas and, you know, do you really?
- 1:25Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:28Speaker 2: This is more than you have talked and I've worked
- 1:30Speaker 2: with you for a year and this is more than
- 1:33Speaker 2: you've talked any other time. Did you take a shot
- 1:37Speaker 2: of something?
- 1:38Speaker 1: No. Did you use the Larry Menti remedy of 15
- 1:43Speaker 1: caffeinated cups of coffee?
- 1:45Speaker 2: No, no.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I'm not a coffee guy. Let me tell you something.
- 1:47Speaker 1: We're going to get into it momentarily. Kathy Hochul could
- 1:50Speaker 1: have used that coffee in her debate against Blakeman. And
- 1:53Speaker 1: Tish James against Saritha, the AG debate, we didn't even
- 1:57Speaker 1: have a chance to talk about because of all the
- 1:59Speaker 1: news last week. But yesterday, I was taking a victory
- 2:03Speaker 1: lap to Central Park. It's like 150 horses. That are
- 2:08Speaker 1: involved in a horse carriage industry with the drivers and
- 2:11Speaker 1: the drivers are used to me heckling them. And, you know,
- 2:15Speaker 1: they're all screaming to me, you'll never be mayor. You'll
- 2:17Speaker 1: never be mayor. You're a bum. Go get a job.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Go get a real job. So I take all that
- 2:22Speaker 1: abuse and I walk up to the horses and I'm
- 2:24Speaker 1: patting their mane and I'm saying, hey, buddy, hang on.
- 2:27Speaker 1: You got two years. If you can make it through
- 2:29Speaker 1: two years of this torture, you'll be able to frolic
- 2:32Speaker 1: with your buddies out there at some horse sanctuary. So
- 2:35Speaker 1: it's great. And then as I'm making the rounds and
- 2:39Speaker 1: trying to answer some of the questions of the horse
- 2:42Speaker 1: carriage drivers who would actually talk to me about how
- 2:45Speaker 1: they can segue into a career so they can pay
- 2:48Speaker 1: their bills and not get evicted, I passed a statue.
- 2:53Speaker 1: You got to look at it, ladies and gentlemen, right
- 2:55Speaker 1: before you hit Strawberry Fields. right before the spot at
- 2:59Speaker 1: the Dakota where John Lennon was assassinated back in 1980.
- 3:03Speaker 1: There is this huge statue in Central Park. Almost nobody
- 3:07Speaker 1: knows who it is. I do because my dad told
- 3:10Speaker 1: me and educated me. It's the former Senator Stephen Douglas,
- 3:15Speaker 1: who had the greatest debates of all time, Larry, with
- 3:18Speaker 1: then Abraham Lincoln, 1858. They were running for the U.S. Senate.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Stephen Douglas was assumed to be the winner, you know,
- 3:29Speaker 1: in advance. But he allowed for seven debates. He was
- 3:33Speaker 1: the Democrat. The Republican Party was just being formed. That
- 3:37Speaker 1: came about for the presidential election, and Lincoln won in 1860. And, Larry,
- 3:43Speaker 1: these were three-hour debates all over Illinois, as my dad explained.
- 3:48Speaker 1: People came from everywhere. Reporters covered it for newspapers everywhere.
- 3:52Speaker 1: all across the nation. And that's really how Lincoln established
- 3:56Speaker 1: himself as the anti-slavery guy. And Stephen Douglas was pro-slavery,
- 4:00Speaker 1: but there were so many other issues they discussed.
- 4:03Speaker 2: It was slavery for the most part. Almost all of
- 4:06Speaker 2: it was about slavery. But listen to the format and
- 4:09Speaker 2: compare it to the debates of today. One hour opening address.
- 4:15Speaker 2: One hour opening address. I love that. Then an hour
- 4:19Speaker 2: and a half counter address. So you give the other
- 4:22Speaker 2: guy 30 more minutes, I guess, to talk about what
- 4:25Speaker 2: you just said. Then on top of that, a 30
- 4:29Speaker 2: minute rebuttal. And so they allowed Douglas to open four
- 4:33Speaker 2: times and Lincoln to open three times. So they had
- 4:36Speaker 2: seven debates, but this was the format. So do they
- 4:39Speaker 2: ever go back and forth at all?
- 4:42Speaker 1: Not sure. My dad never explained that.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I didn't know that till I just read it.
- 4:47Speaker 1: But the point is, Larry, there was no audio back then.
- 4:51Speaker 1: There was no amplification. It's not like today. You get
- 4:54Speaker 1: a microphone in front of you. So even if you're
- 4:56Speaker 1: soft spoken, you could be heard by a crowd. And
- 4:59Speaker 1: these people came from everywhere.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Huge crowds.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Journalists from all over the country who then teletype their
- 5:07Speaker 1: stories in the next day. which were carried on the
- 5:09Speaker 1: front pages of the major periodicals. And that's really how
- 5:13Speaker 1: Lincoln established himself as a great orator. But I give
- 5:17Speaker 1: credit to Stephen Douglas. He could have said, I'm way ahead.
- 5:22Speaker 1: I'm the established U.S. senator. You know, there's nobody that's
- 5:24Speaker 1: going to beat me. Why do I have to submit
- 5:27Speaker 1: myself to seven debates? There is no rules. There were
- 5:30Speaker 1: no rules back then that you had to do seven debates.
- 5:33Speaker 2: And three hours. There had to be a bathroom break, right?
- 5:35Speaker 2: I mean, my God, three hours. And do you think?
- 5:38Speaker 2: You said there's huge crowds. There's no way a crowd
- 5:41Speaker 2: stuck around for three hours. But then again, maybe because
- 5:43Speaker 2: there's nothing better to do back then.
- 5:45Speaker 1: But they were great orators, both of them.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But three hours? I don't care how great of an
- 5:49Speaker 2: orator you are.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Hey, wasn't that, wait a second, the three-hour tour, right? Remember?
- 5:53Speaker 2: What was that? Gilligan's Island.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Gilligan's Island, right? But they came from everywhere.
- 5:58Speaker 2: The way his mind works. All of a sudden, a
- 6:01Speaker 2: sitcom from the 60s and 70s comes back.
- 6:04Speaker 1: But remember, you know how people show up for Trump rallies?
- 6:07Speaker 1: They'll show up a day or two early. They showed
- 6:10Speaker 1: up early to be able to get into a position
- 6:13Speaker 1: where they could hear the debate. Again, no amplification whatsoever.
- 6:17Speaker 1: And I say there should have been established long ago
- 6:21Speaker 1: a prerequisite that if you're running for political office, that
- 6:27Speaker 1: you have to submit yourself to a minimum of two debates.
- 6:30Speaker 1: I want to turn to your state of New Jersey.
- 6:32Speaker 2: Let me give you a fact here, though, to add
- 6:34Speaker 2: to what you were just saying. More than 70,000 people.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Back then. Back then. 70,000 is a lot of people.
- 6:42Speaker 2: More than 70,000 people attended the seven joint debates in total.
- 6:47Speaker 2: And they averaged 10,000 to 12,000 spectators at a time.
- 6:53Speaker 2: You know, there's no arena. There's no microphones. They were
- 6:57Speaker 2: probably telling each other what was said.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 7:00Speaker 2: That's amazing.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Yeah, because you, in fact, I had this discussion with
- 7:04Speaker 1: Tom Cuddy the other day, you know, in the recovery
- 7:08Speaker 1: of my voice. I used to blow out my voices,
- 7:10Speaker 1: going to rallies, raising my voice, and then you bruise
- 7:14Speaker 1: your vocal cords. You couldn't do that. If they bruise
- 7:18Speaker 1: their vocal cords, there's no voice specialist you could go to.
- 7:22Speaker 1: There's no special medication. That's it. Other than maybe knocking
- 7:26Speaker 1: back some Jack Daniels and hoping that would work, which
- 7:29Speaker 1: all of them did back then. This is amazing. 10,000
- 7:32Speaker 1: to 12,000 people. Again, like you said, there's no way
- 7:35Speaker 1: they could hear what Douglas and Lincoln were saying unless
- 7:38Speaker 1: they had come early, you know, like days early and
- 7:41Speaker 1: they got a good position. It was word of mouth.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Yeah, the funny thing is, the reason I was saying
- 7:46Speaker 2: is word of mouth is because during the Gettysburg Address,
- 7:49Speaker 2: if you remember, they had people sitting on other people's
- 7:52Speaker 2: shoulders and then repeating what he said. And they just
- 7:56Speaker 2: keep going back in the crowd to repeat what he
- 7:58Speaker 2: just said. So it must have been the same thing
- 8:00Speaker 2: there or something similar.
- 8:01Speaker 1: So I pay homage in Central Park to the statue
- 8:05Speaker 1: of Stephen Douglas because he submitted to allow for that.
- 8:10Speaker 1: He didn't have to. Now, think of all the people
- 8:12Speaker 1: who are ahead in the polls or an incumbent, Larry,
- 8:15Speaker 1: in a lot of these states. Oh, no, I'm not
- 8:17Speaker 1: going to do a debate. Oh, I'll do one debate
- 8:19Speaker 1: at like three o'clock in the morning on some UHF
- 8:22Speaker 1: station just to say I did it. I use New
- 8:25Speaker 1: York as an example. Let's compare it with New Jersey.
- 8:29Speaker 1: You had great debates in New Jersey leading up to
- 8:32Speaker 1: the helicopter pilot, Shirell, winning over Jack Cittarelli.
- 8:36Speaker 2: See, I got it right. Yeah. He's been saying Cittarelli.
- 8:40Speaker 1: So remember, Cittarelli goes through a primary. He has debates.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Shirell goes to a primary. She has debates. And then
- 8:47Speaker 1: in the final, they're the two finalists. They had two debates.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Now that's good.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Well, that's because it was close and there was no incumbent.
- 8:55Speaker 2: And the problem is if one person says no, they
- 8:59Speaker 2: can't have a debate. And to your point, I agree
- 9:03Speaker 2: with you. I think debates are healthy. I think debates
- 9:06Speaker 2: are important because how else are you going to make
- 9:08Speaker 2: up your mind? You want to see how they're going
- 9:10Speaker 2: to handle things on their feet. So I don't know
- 9:13Speaker 2: if we do need a law. I mean, if you're
- 9:16Speaker 2: going to get federal money, if you want to accept
- 9:18Speaker 2: federal money, you have to accept debates. And I said debates,
- 9:22Speaker 2: at least two debates. That would be wonderful. Or another
- 9:27Speaker 2: way to do it is if someone says, no, we're
- 9:31Speaker 2: not going to show up to the debate, still give
- 9:33Speaker 2: the other guy the airtime. Give the other guy the airtime.
- 9:36Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be an hour or two hours.
- 9:38Speaker 2: It could be 15 minutes or half an hour. But
- 9:40Speaker 2: he gets free airtime because you said no.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about it later. Tallarico versus Paxton.
- 9:48Speaker 1: He had a town hall meeting at CNN last night. Originally,
- 9:51Speaker 1: that was hopefully for CNN.
- 9:54Speaker 2: They wanted a debate.
- 9:55Speaker 1: Paxton has yet to agree with 20 days to go.
- 9:58Speaker 2: So exactly what I was talking about. That would be wonderful.
- 10:00Speaker 2: That's amazing that town hall is the way to do it. Yeah,
- 10:04Speaker 2: you could do that over and over again. The problem
- 10:07Speaker 2: is many of the races... Don't get as much publicity. Right,
- 10:11Speaker 2: but let me applaud you.
- 10:12Speaker 1: You chose yesterday, and please go to our Instagram account,
- 10:16Speaker 1: Facebook account. You'll see Larry talking about a guy I
- 10:20Speaker 1: didn't even know about. Justin Murphy. I learned from you
- 10:24Speaker 1: he had great hair. But I actually started looking at
- 10:28Speaker 1: the clips based on your commentary of he smoked Cory Booker.
- 10:32Speaker 1: He's running for the U.S. Senate. He's a Republican candidate. Now,
- 10:36Speaker 1: just imagine he has one debate under his belt. Cory
- 10:40Speaker 1: Booker wasn't aired really anywhere.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Right.
- 10:42Speaker 1: But if there were two mandatory debates on network.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Then Cory would have to buckle down for a second
- 10:49Speaker 1: debate because word would get out. Whoa, this guy smoked
- 10:52Speaker 1: Cory Booker.
- 10:52Speaker 2: By the way, if you go on social media and
- 10:56Speaker 2: just search his name, he's all over the place because
- 10:59Speaker 2: his answer on Iran was especially great. And if If
- 11:04Speaker 2: you're a conservative, you're really going to love him, too,
- 11:06Speaker 2: because he espouses all conservative issues. I mean, seriously, he
- 11:11Speaker 2: was a placeholder. He was a sacrificial lamb in this race.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Nobody thought he was going to do anything. And he
- 11:17Speaker 2: got up there, man, and he made a name for himself.
- 11:20Speaker 2: So Justin Murphy, he will be a name you're going
- 11:23Speaker 2: to hear running for Congress. He's going to run for
- 11:25Speaker 2: something else. This is not the last we're going to
- 11:28Speaker 2: hear of him.
- 11:28Speaker 1: We would never have known that, most of us, if
- 11:30Speaker 1: not for your commentary on our Instagram and Facebook account,
- 11:34Speaker 1: which caused me, who didn't know him, I am pretty
- 11:37Speaker 1: good about some Jersey politics, to start looking at the
- 11:40Speaker 1: clips and say, damn, this guy's good. Not only that,
- 11:44Speaker 1: like Larry said, man, he's got one thick mane of
- 11:47Speaker 1: hair that every politician running would definitely want. By the way,
- 11:52Speaker 1: we'd love to get your feedback on this on our
- 11:54Speaker 1: talkback because it's hit and miss. Maine, they've had five
- 11:58Speaker 1: debates in nine days for the U.S. Senate position.
- 12:01Speaker 2: That's a close race. You can see why everyone that
- 12:05Speaker 2: has has debates is a close race, which, by the way,
- 12:09Speaker 2: can we also talk about Cory Booker? That was great
- 12:12Speaker 2: that he had a debate. He didn't have to have
- 12:14Speaker 2: that debate. But I think he thought he was going
- 12:16Speaker 2: to really trounce him. I think he went into it going,
- 12:20Speaker 2: I'm Cory Booker. I'm going to take care of him.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Just like Hochul thought. She had an easy pass with Blakeman.
- 12:25Speaker 2: He did a smackdown. And the one we couldn't talk about, Saritha.
- 12:29Speaker 2: I can't pronounce her last name. Shame on me. She's
- 12:32Speaker 2: the Attorney General candidate, Republican Parliamentary, former U.S. Attorney, Eastern District.
- 12:37Speaker 1: She ripped Tish James. She killed her in that debate.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Can you imagine? People would hear the buzz. Oh, you
- 12:43Speaker 1: got to look at this woman, Saritha. She tore up
- 12:46Speaker 1: Tish James if there were a second debate. Shame, shame
- 12:50Speaker 1: that we don't have that in honor of Abraham Lincoln
- 12:53Speaker 1: and Stephen Douglas, who had seven debates.
- 12:57Speaker 2: We, uh, we want to hear your talkbacks by the way,
- 12:59Speaker 2: on all of this, how important are debates to you?
- 13:01Speaker 2: Do you agree with us? Everybody should hold debates. If
- 13:04Speaker 2: they're going to run for office, go to the I
- 13:05Speaker 2: heart radio app. And is it ever, you ever changed
- 13:08Speaker 2: your mind because of a debate? That would be interesting.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Go to the I heart radio app and leave us
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