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Guest Host: Christina P. Kantzavelos interviews Genevieve Gonzales. Rapid Trauma Resolution through Brain Based Healing and Hypnotherapy · The Trauma Therapist

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the special guest host series of The Trauma
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  Speaker 1: Therapist Podcast, where I'm going to be handing over the
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  Speaker 1: mic to some incredible guest hosts. In each episode, you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear fresh perspectives and unique insights to inform and inspire
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  Speaker 1: you in all the while keeping the heart of this
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  Speaker 1: podcast alive. So sit back and enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone, I am so excited to be a guest host
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  Speaker 3: for the first time on The Trauma Therapist podcast, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm even more excited to have Genevieve Gonzalez here. Hi. Genevieve, Hi,
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  Speaker 3: happy to be here, So excited to have you. And
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  Speaker 3: for those who don't know Genevieve, she's a licensed holistic psychotherapist,
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  Speaker 3: boards certified hypnotherapist, neuro shamanic medicine practitioner, and the founder
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  Speaker 3: of Modern Mind Medicine. She specializes in resolving the painful
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  Speaker 3: effects of trauma, heart heartbreak, and grief through utilizing the
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  Speaker 3: power of intention, transformational speech, and gentle hypnotic processes that
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  Speaker 3: activate the subconscious and restorative nervous system the recession. She
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  Speaker 3: creates a safe and comfortable space for people to connect
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  Speaker 3: with the healing potential of.
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  Speaker 2: Their own body.
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  Speaker 3: And mind through bridging the medicine of ancient wisdom and
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  Speaker 3: the power of modern day and emotional healing.
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  Speaker 4: Again, welcome, welcome, thank you, thank you for that long introduction.
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  Speaker 3: It was perfect, It's perfect. So I have so I
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  Speaker 3: have so many questions. We don't have a ton of time,
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  Speaker 3: but if you could kind of tell us how you
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  Speaker 3: got into this work, Like what has your journey looked like?
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  Speaker 4: So, like I think most healers, it has to do
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  Speaker 4: with an experience that we go through. How I got
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  Speaker 4: into the hypnotherapy world is I was already in private
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  Speaker 4: practice as a licensed psychotherapist, doing pretty traditional therapy, seeing
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  Speaker 4: most veterans. So through that I kind of just inadvertently
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  Speaker 4: began to specialize in resolving trauma, although in the traditional
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  Speaker 4: therapy world, I don't know if I was even calling
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  Speaker 4: it resolving trauma.
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  Speaker 2: I was treating trauma.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit different way that we look at things,
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  Speaker 4: and so I would see mostly veterans who had combat trauma,
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  Speaker 4: military sexual trauma.
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  Speaker 2: Those were pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: The main issues I would see. And since I started
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  Speaker 4: this work, I've always been looking for what works, and
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  Speaker 4: I was getting some results, but just not what I
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  Speaker 4: was wanting.
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  Speaker 2: Like I wanted to see people get really better.
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  Speaker 4: So one day I just received a postcard actually for
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  Speaker 4: a seminar on resolving sexual trauma through an institute called
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  Speaker 4: Rapid Resolution Therapy. So that's what introduced me to RT
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  Speaker 4: Rapid Resolution Therapy, and long story short, I went to
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  Speaker 4: the first training and saw videos of veterans actually or
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  Speaker 4: first responders who had helped with the clean and put
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  Speaker 4: nine to eleven. Saw them having a session with doctor
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  Speaker 4: John Connolly, the creator Rapid Resolution Therapy, and seeing them
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  Speaker 4: go from visually just completely no color in the face,
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  Speaker 4: had very low energy, and within maybe an hour you
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  Speaker 4: could see them just completely uplift and they say, wow,
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  Speaker 4: it's gone. And so I said, Okay, there's something to this.
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  Speaker 4: So I wanted to learn and spoke to doctor John connlelly.
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  Speaker 4: He told me to come to the longer training. In
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  Speaker 4: between the time that I first was exposed and the
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  Speaker 4: time that I went to the first training, me myself
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  Speaker 4: actually went through a period of very traumatic and intense grief.
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  Speaker 4: I had multiple loses within a six week period in
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  Speaker 4: between me first these first trains, which looking back, is
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  Speaker 4: pretty serendipitous because it allowed me to experience the power
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  Speaker 4: of hypnotherapy or RT for myself because then I was
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  Speaker 4: now the participant. I was the one that got to
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  Speaker 4: experience the changes within the body that can happen almost
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  Speaker 4: almost immediately when somebody's taken into the brain waves of healing,
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  Speaker 4: into the intention of healing and held in that space
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  Speaker 4: and just to see that you can't become unstuck because
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  Speaker 4: we have the potential to heal. Everything within our body
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  Speaker 4: is set up to heal. And that's what I tell
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  Speaker 4: my clients. You know, when you cut your finger, how
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  Speaker 4: worried are you that it's not going to heal?
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  Speaker 2: They're not right. We're like, oh, that's gonna heal. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not worried.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to sit there and think about it
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  Speaker 4: or do anything about it. But when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: emotional stresses or mental or heartbreak for some reason, we
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  Speaker 4: think we're not going to m and that's where that
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  Speaker 4: stuckness comes in. So that's where going to a practitioner,
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  Speaker 4: a healer can be really helpful to help release that
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  Speaker 4: stuckness by by knowing how, by knowing just what things
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  Speaker 4: to shift.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, for those listening, like, what's kind
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  Speaker 3: of the difference between this and conventional talk therapy, like
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  Speaker 3: why would people choose this route opposed to that?
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  Speaker 4: I think for talk therapy it's someone that's trained in it,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm sure you were too that.
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  Speaker 2: It can have value.
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  Speaker 4: There's some people that do like to talk things out
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  Speaker 4: and they can you know, work out their their problems
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  Speaker 4: or come up with a solution.
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  Speaker 2: Through that they.
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  Speaker 4: Can receive validation. There's a lot of validation in talk therapy,
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  Speaker 4: and so some people do need that. With the hypnotherapy realm,
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  Speaker 4: we are looking to cause a shift. It's good for
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  Speaker 4: people for someone who's been feeling really stuck, because sometimes
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  Speaker 4: the talk therapy can't remove the stuckness. We can find
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  Speaker 4: out why, maybe the why, but then not how are
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  Speaker 4: we going to now shift it? Where with the hypnotherapy
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  Speaker 4: we're more looking at, okay, how do I solve this,
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  Speaker 4: cause a shift, get out of that stuck stake? It's okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the why can be helpful, but it's more
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  Speaker 4: of the okay, but now how how what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: How is the mind processing this that's causing this distortion
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  Speaker 4: or stuckness. Usually it's a belief the mind's made meaning
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  Speaker 4: out of something. There might be data, so we think
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  Speaker 4: of memory as data, data that's gotten kind of corrupted,
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  Speaker 4: and it's being read in a distorted way, and then
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  Speaker 4: that's causing a behavior or an emotion.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing with talk therapy or what.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people try to do on their own
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  Speaker 4: is they're feeling a certain way, but then they try
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  Speaker 4: to shift the way they feel from where they're experiencing it.
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  Speaker 4: The conscious mind is where we experience that emotion, but
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  Speaker 4: it's the emotion's actually being generated from the subconscious unconscious mind,
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  Speaker 4: the limbic system. If we want to get scientific, which
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  Speaker 4: is a different level of mind. So what we want
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  Speaker 4: to do, if we want to change the emotion, we
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  Speaker 4: want to go to where it's being generated, not where
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  Speaker 4: the person's feeling it. And so that's how hypnotherapy does
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  Speaker 4: that is by changing states to get into those other
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  Speaker 4: layers of mind and then integrate it into all layers
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  Speaker 4: so that the person feels this, Oh it's different now
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  Speaker 4: I feel different about it. And it's not that the
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  Speaker 4: thing didn't happen or they're going to lose their memory
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  Speaker 4: or anything like that. They can still talk about it,
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  Speaker 4: but they're not going to get the same emotional reading
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  Speaker 4: at that time.
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  Speaker 2: So then.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a trigger, let's say, or they're able to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it like many other forms of data that
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  Speaker 4: they've had throughout the days that aren't causing any emotional
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  Speaker 4: response that's troubling.
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  Speaker 3: So they're in essence kind of desensitized to it, like
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  Speaker 3: they're able to look at it in a more objective way.
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  Speaker 3: This happened, it sucked, it was traumatic, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: feeling this visceral, somatic response to it where like I
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  Speaker 3: did before, Like it doesn't feel as traumatic in the mind,
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  Speaker 3: the body, the spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, So I like to say they see.
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  Speaker 4: It with clarity hm or see it with an enlightened state, so.
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  Speaker 2: They'll see it and yes, this thing sucked.
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  Speaker 4: But sometimes we can find wisdom from the things that
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  Speaker 4: we've overcome, but we can't if we're thinking about how
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  Speaker 4: much it sucked, or thinking it happened, you know, how
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  Speaker 4: it happened to me, opposed to it happened.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, So post traumatic growth, right is a thing. Yes, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to see that when you're in tunnel vision
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  Speaker 3: because you're in a traumatized state, so in a survival
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  Speaker 3: response within the experience. So being able to find where
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  Speaker 3: it is in the mind the body of the spirit
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  Speaker 3: and then integrate it so that you can see it now,
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  Speaker 3: see it with clarity and understanding and maybe compassion.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, absolutely, and the brain yes, and then I
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  Speaker 4: like it brain and.
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  Speaker 2: That like fear anger.
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  Speaker 4: Where those brain waves, those don't we can't experience let's
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  Speaker 4: say logic, reason, creativity, inspiration. So we want to get
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  Speaker 4: someone into those areas those brain waves are where those emotions,
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  Speaker 4: the area of the mind where they're able to experience
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  Speaker 4: those because that's where they start to see it with clarity.
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  Speaker 2: But I see Ahunger decreases the ability to do that.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why by relaxing the nervous system going through
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  Speaker 4: different processes where the conscious mind gets the kind of
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  Speaker 4: focus on something and be kind of busy, and then
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  Speaker 4: we have access to the subconscious. Then through that relaxed state,
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  Speaker 4: they're just going into a state that they have already.
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  Speaker 4: It's just somebody is helping them to kind of walking
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  Speaker 4: along their side, helping them access it.
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  Speaker 3: So it sounds like neuroplasticity at play and how you're
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  Speaker 3: accessing the consciousness conscious creating.
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  Speaker 2: New neural pathways.
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  Speaker 3: Because for those who don't know, you know, ninety five
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  Speaker 3: percent or more of everything we do is subconscious. It's
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  Speaker 3: pretty it's pretty wild. So this makes this makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that you'd mentioned like the sessions are
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  Speaker 3: a little bit longer, right than typical talk therapy, Like
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  Speaker 3: how does that work? How many sessions does a person
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  Speaker 3: need to really see results? What do they generally notice?
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  Speaker 3: What can you share about that? Yeah, that's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: So I like to do a series of two sessions
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  Speaker 4: where we're going into these processes, these healing processes, and
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  Speaker 4: then two follow up sessions where we'll do some other
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  Speaker 4: neu nervous system rebalancing, and then kind of like a.
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  Speaker 2: A action step plan.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, now with all of this breed up energy for you,
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  Speaker 4: how do we now implement this for your life? But
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  Speaker 4: those two first sessions, I tell people to schedule up
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  Speaker 4: to three hours. Everyone is so different and how responsive
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be and what it is that we're
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  Speaker 4: shifting for them, that it's hard to say it's going
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  Speaker 4: to be this amount of time, but I say, let's
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  Speaker 4: schedule three hours. It could be shorter than that, but
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  Speaker 4: at least we have that time so we can stay
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  Speaker 4: in that brain state, because once you're in it, these
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  Speaker 4: transformational brain states, we can start just getting a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot done, and the subconscious is very specific, so we
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  Speaker 4: want to be specific about what it is that we're shifting.
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  Speaker 4: So in an hour session, having to bring somebody into
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  Speaker 4: that state and then out. I want to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that we're going to get everything resolved, that they're going
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  Speaker 4: to feel a shift, feel a difference, feel it something
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  Speaker 4: did get done during that time that we have together.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why just want to allow that amount of time.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and again how many sessions in total if
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  Speaker 3: we're like the average person.
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  Speaker 4: So people will feel a difference in one Okay, that's
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  Speaker 4: the first one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so literally.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes just one session and there they feel complete, They
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  Speaker 3: feel like they don't need to do this any further,
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  Speaker 3: so they don't need to see like to say, like
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  Speaker 3: if I came to see you, I wouldn't need to
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  Speaker 3: see you on like an ongoing basis, like one time
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  Speaker 3: would suffice? That's incredible And is it usually just for
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  Speaker 3: like let's just say I had a traumatic I had
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  Speaker 3: multiple traumatic incidents. Would you say I'd need to see
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  Speaker 3: you separately for each of those or could we get
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  Speaker 3: it all done in one go?
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  Speaker 4: It's possible to get it all done in one go,
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  Speaker 4: because again, if we're having that longer session, then we
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  Speaker 4: can kind of do things one by one. But the
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  Speaker 4: way our beautiful mind works is it takes information and
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  Speaker 4: then applies it to everything that's similar. Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 4: which works for us sometimes can work against us too,
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  Speaker 4: like with trauma, like oh this thing, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: firecracker sounds like the bomb, you know, so it could
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  Speaker 4: work in that way too, But it also works in
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  Speaker 4: beautiful ways with healing because it can take the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: If we've now applied this.
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  Speaker 4: New meaning, this lesson, this way of looking at something,
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  Speaker 4: and then it can apply it to the other things.
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  Speaker 2: But we would do processes to test for that, to
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  Speaker 2: make sure all of them get cleared up. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what I want to do.
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  Speaker 4: I want to make sure before the person logs off,
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  Speaker 4: they know that there's been a change.
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  Speaker 2: But that's why I allow for that time as well.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to ask, this is something you can
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  Speaker 3: do virtually and or in person, right, yes, okay? And
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  Speaker 3: is there kind of like an ideal cool not ideal client,
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  Speaker 3: but like a specific person who would seek this modality
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  Speaker 3: out over the rest. Is it someone specifically who's feeling
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  Speaker 3: stuck in their trauma responses and in disregulated nervous system
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  Speaker 3: or is this effective for other.
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  Speaker 2: People as well? For different reasons.
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  Speaker 4: It's effective for pretty much everybody, Okay, So me personally,
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  Speaker 4: I specialize in trauma resolution, sexual trauma resolution, heartbreak and grief.
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  Speaker 4: Those are my kind of my favorites to the shift
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  Speaker 4: for people. But it does work with lobs and'se abuse
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  Speaker 4: as well, just not something I specialize in, but it's
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  Speaker 4: very very effective for that. Relapse prevention is what we
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  Speaker 4: call it in the in the RT world. So nice, nice, okay,
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  Speaker 4: really really everything okay.
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  Speaker 3: Good to know, good to know, And then I know
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  Speaker 3: we don't have a lot of time, but I had
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  Speaker 3: a few more questions. So the neuro shamanic medicine, Like
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  Speaker 3: can you just quickly explain. I'm sure people heard that
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  Speaker 3: in the beginning and they're like, what is that I.
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  Speaker 2: Need to know more?
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  Speaker 4: Right, So, hypnotherapy and shamanic practition practices they're actually kind
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  Speaker 4: of align kind of similar. So the shamanic medicine and
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  Speaker 4: practices is a healing method that has to do with
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  Speaker 4: in pension, using the the power or calling in the
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  Speaker 4: medicine of either the elements the earth, different spirits. Depending
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  Speaker 4: on which culture it is, they all have different ones
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  Speaker 4: that they work with, the animal, animal spirits, things like that,
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  Speaker 4: and practicing that every living being has a medicine to
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  Speaker 4: it and you can call on them for help. So
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  Speaker 4: with hypnote therapy, we're using intention as well. And ancient
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  Speaker 4: times there was no way to actually use scientific methods
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  Speaker 4: to test what's going on in the brain when these
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  Speaker 4: different shamanic medicines are being practiced. But now in the
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  Speaker 4: Western world we are able to test them, and like
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  Speaker 4: doctor Joe despens is doing a lot of work with
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  Speaker 4: testing brain waves and what happens when people are in
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  Speaker 4: meditation and going through these healing practices. So neuroshamanism combines
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  Speaker 4: the medicine of the ancient world, but also with the
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  Speaker 4: research that we can do now. And it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: a way to say the Western world and how the
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  Speaker 4: Western people are practicing these in digitous medicine practices.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, And does that get intertwined with your RRT work
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  Speaker 3: or is that something separately because someone wanted to work
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  Speaker 3: with you, how would that work?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I do pretty much use it with both people.
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  Speaker 2: Some are more open than others.
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  Speaker 4: So it really depends on what's going to be working
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  Speaker 4: for them. When I'm working a hypnotic process or transformational process,
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  Speaker 4: let's call it, I'm looking at what's going to cause
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  Speaker 4: the shift, and I'm receiving information while i have the
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  Speaker 4: intention of where we're going for that person, which we've
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  Speaker 4: already agreed on. So no one can be taken through
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  Speaker 4: a transformation of state or hypnotized for something they don't
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  Speaker 4: want to do. So we've already agreed on where it
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  Speaker 4: is we're going that's in the best and highest good
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  Speaker 4: for that person, Okay, and so whatever that is, that's
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  Speaker 4: what I'm going to receive information to take them there.
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  Speaker 3: Great, that sounds like an amazing guide. So real quick,
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  Speaker 3: just because we're at we are at the end as yes,
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  Speaker 3: First is what is one thing you wish to im
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  Speaker 3: part For anyone who's listening or watching this right now,
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  Speaker 3: they can walk away with one thing.
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  Speaker 2: What is it.
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  Speaker 4: That healing doesn't have to take a long time, It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have to be painful, you don't have to relive
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  Speaker 4: painful things. Are ways to release it without having to
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  Speaker 4: to relive it in the same way, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have to take a long time. We can become unstuck,
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  Speaker 4: we can go through the healing. There's, of course it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be other things we have to do in
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  Speaker 4: the in our world because we live here.
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  Speaker 2: But but it doesn't have to be long or painful. Beautiful, beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that.
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  Speaker 3: And how can how can people reach you?
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  Speaker 4: So the best way is to go to Modernmindmedicine dot
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  Speaker 4: com and then they can go to my contact page
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  Speaker 4: and reach out to me. There also Instagram also Modern
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  Speaker 4: Mind Medicine on Instagram as well.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing, so please do go follow Genevieve. Genevieve, thank you
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  Speaker 3: so much for being such a fantastic guest. And I
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  Speaker 3: love you and I love everyone listening.
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  Speaker 2: And well you can heal. Yes, I love you, my
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  Speaker 2: medicine sister. All right, take good care of you, you too,