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- 0:30Speaker 1: Enjoy your exploration. Good morning, how are you doing today?
- 0:36Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic. I'm very excited to share a conversation with
- 0:38Speaker 1: you because I've experienced the entire elegant weapons. Dude, dude, dude.
- 0:42Speaker 1: This is what album listening was all about when I
- 0:45Speaker 1: first fell in love with music. The experience and how
- 0:49Speaker 1: you guys strategically planted every song on this album and
- 0:52Speaker 1: the way that it lays out. It's like there was
- 0:56Speaker 1: so much thought and experience put into it.
- 0:59Speaker 2: It's really a challenge.
- 1:01Speaker 3: You know, you have a group of songs, you know
- 1:03Speaker 3: which one of your first one is going to be,
- 1:05Speaker 3: and we still put albums together like albums, you know,
- 1:07Speaker 3: like priests too. There's a start, there's a middle, and
- 1:10Speaker 3: there's an end, and there's aller of dynamics in between.
- 1:12Speaker 2: But sometimes it's quite tough.
- 1:14Speaker 3: You know, you've got your you've got your your opening song,
- 1:17Speaker 3: you've got your closer, and you've got to make that
- 1:19Speaker 3: dynamic in between that gives the listener hopefully.
- 1:22Speaker 2: The ride through the through the album.
- 1:23Speaker 3: And I really appreciate you saying that we think we've
- 1:25Speaker 3: got the order correct.
- 1:27Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a huge part of my imagination
- 1:29Speaker 1: that would love to see you just do this whole
- 1:31Speaker 1: entire album all by itself live because I want to
- 1:34Speaker 1: be able to feel it as you play it. Because
- 1:36Speaker 1: I'm that finger watcher. I watch your fingers. I sit
- 1:39Speaker 1: there and watch where your emotions go, how your eyes
- 1:41Speaker 1: disappear from the crowd. Oh my god, there's so much
- 1:44Speaker 1: you put into this stuff.
- 1:46Speaker 2: That's part of live music, isn't it.
- 1:48Speaker 3: You know, you go and see your favorite bands and
- 1:50Speaker 3: you see them interacting with their instrument and interacting as
- 1:53Speaker 3: a hole as a band, and then the band interacting
- 1:55Speaker 3: with the audience. That's what you don't get on YouTube,
- 1:58Speaker 3: isn't it. You know, you do that kind of cohesion
- 2:00Speaker 3: that spontaneity that only comes from life shows.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, man, and that's why we
- 2:05Speaker 2: do it.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I think most bands live to play live, and we're
- 2:07Speaker 3: no different.
- 2:08Speaker 1: When you were putting together the song Generation Me, when
- 2:11Speaker 1: did you decide to put that high end on the
- 2:13Speaker 1: opening vocals? Because dude, that instantly caught my attention. I
- 2:16Speaker 1: love that sound.
- 2:19Speaker 2: That's a great question. Generation to me was the first
- 2:22Speaker 2: song that I completed on the record. You know, I
- 2:25Speaker 2: write songs, I.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Very rarely complete them in one go, so I have
- 2:28Speaker 3: a bit of that song there and a bit of
- 2:30Speaker 3: that song, and then I add things to them. But
- 2:32Speaker 3: Generation Me was the first one that I completed all
- 2:35Speaker 3: in one go, and it really set the tone for
- 2:38Speaker 3: what the album was going to be like, you know,
- 2:39Speaker 3: that one was finished, that set the marker for where
- 2:42Speaker 3: the album was going to go.
- 2:43Speaker 2: So that's why I really was That was really the
- 2:46Speaker 2: one that defined the tone for the record. So that's
- 2:48Speaker 2: why we put it like that.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Okay. So now when you say you change it as
- 2:52Speaker 1: it goes, I mean, come on twenty twenty three, we
- 2:54Speaker 1: all heard horns for Halo, So has it evolved in
- 2:58Speaker 1: the past three years?
- 3:00Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 3:00Speaker 3: I think so it's evolved in terms of the band
- 3:02Speaker 3: members are different. You know, when we went out on
- 3:05Speaker 3: the road. Rex Brown obviously was on base on the
- 3:08Speaker 3: first record and he Pantera reformed.
- 3:10Speaker 2: He went back to Pantera.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Scott Travis on drums on the first record, and he
- 3:14Speaker 3: wanted to concentrate on Prees, so I had to get
- 3:16Speaker 3: some more guys in the band. So that's evolved in
- 3:19Speaker 3: that sense. We recorded the band differently as well. The
- 3:23Speaker 3: first one was COVID so we were all separated. This
- 3:27Speaker 3: one where we could, We got together, recorded the drums
- 3:30Speaker 3: together in the studio. You know, again what we were
- 3:33Speaker 3: saying before, that spontaneity together, feeding off of each other.
- 3:37Speaker 2: You know, the energy in the room is really important.
- 3:39Speaker 3: And also, yeah, I think the songs show another side
- 3:42Speaker 3: of the band. And it's our second record, so we're
- 3:44Speaker 3: establishing our identity really so we feel like it's evolved
- 3:49Speaker 3: on that level as well. Yes, that's why we chose
- 3:51Speaker 3: the name Evolution for the record.
- 3:53Speaker 1: In experiencing the full album Elegant Weapons, the one thing
- 3:56Speaker 1: that I feel as a listener is that I felt
- 3:58Speaker 1: like you guys walked into the studio as rebels and said, yeah,
- 4:01Speaker 1: we still got it. Let's go ahead and share what
- 4:04Speaker 1: we got.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Well, we were confident we've had the songs.
- 4:09Speaker 3: You know you've got you when you've got demos, I
- 4:12Speaker 3: think sometimes you get you know, these these are strong songs.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Somewhat sometimes they're not so strong, So you pick ones
- 4:18Speaker 3: that are the strongest. And I think you've got to
- 4:20Speaker 3: go into the studio with your strongest hands, you know,
- 4:22Speaker 3: feel the feeling the most positive about the group of
- 4:26Speaker 3: songs that you've got, and go in there and give
- 4:28Speaker 3: it one thousand percent. You know you've got the strongest
- 4:30Speaker 3: song demos that you've got at the time, record them
- 4:33Speaker 3: to your best of ability.
- 4:34Speaker 2: And the people in the band are top notch.
- 4:35Speaker 3: You know, you've got Christopher Williams from Accept on drums,
- 4:38Speaker 3: Baby Rymer on bass, Ronnie Romero on vocals. So you've
- 4:41Speaker 3: got a ting like that and hopefully you know some
- 4:43Speaker 3: strong songs. Give it one thousand percent, great producer Andy
- 4:46Speaker 3: Sneaper as well, and hopefully the end result is the
- 4:49Speaker 3: best one you can get.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Richie Faulkner from
- 4:53Speaker 1: Judas Priest coming up next. It truly is an authentic
- 4:58Speaker 1: album experience elegant Web from Judas Priest. We are back
- 5:02Speaker 1: with Richie Faulkner. I wish I was a fly on
- 5:05Speaker 1: the wall when you guys were putting together the Devil Calls,
- 5:08Speaker 1: because am I wrong to think that I hear some
- 5:10Speaker 1: progue going on there? Because those keys in this song,
- 5:13Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god. I mean you you put
- 5:15Speaker 1: me on a different listening platform and it's like, this
- 5:18Speaker 1: is why they explore music.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Well, I'm a big synthway fan.
- 5:23Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up in the early eighties, so
- 5:26Speaker 3: you know, I was kind of exposed to that when
- 5:27Speaker 3: I was, you know, really young, So I'm always trying
- 5:31Speaker 3: to get synth in there somewhere. So that's where that
- 5:33Speaker 3: came from. Really, there's a couple of stuff, a couple
- 5:35Speaker 3: of songs that I've done with priests that have got
- 5:37Speaker 3: the synth in there as well. So yeah, I'm guilty
- 5:40Speaker 3: of that. You know, it was a guitar line and
- 5:42Speaker 3: I tried it on the synth and it works, so
- 5:45Speaker 3: if it works, we go with it.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Well, You've even got an actual organ in one of
- 5:50Speaker 1: the songs. That's not a far feesa is. I mean,
- 5:52Speaker 1: what kind of an organ did you use in that
- 5:54Speaker 1: or is it just keyboards.
- 5:56Speaker 2: No, that's actually a couple of songs. It's anatural organism,
- 5:59Speaker 2: its proper b three.
- 6:01Speaker 3: We got Adam Whitman, it was Rick Wagman's son, to
- 6:05Speaker 3: play an organ on a couple of the tracks.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Is as I said, I can do a couple of
- 6:08Speaker 2: bits and pieces. I can do a couple of.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Pads underneath some easy stuff from layers, but on a
- 6:13Speaker 3: couple of tracks we needed a proper player. So we
- 6:16Speaker 3: asked Adam Wakeman and he was able to do it,
- 6:18Speaker 3: and it just brought the tracks alive.
- 6:20Speaker 2: So we're really appreciative that he could do that. It
- 6:22Speaker 2: really brought the tracks a live I think.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Isn't that fun though? When you start that organ off
- 6:26Speaker 1: in a live crowd, how everybody just kind of sits
- 6:28Speaker 1: up straight or stands a little bit more straight because
- 6:30Speaker 1: it's almost like whoa, oh, I'm feeling something now there's
- 6:33Speaker 1: an organ going on exactly.
- 6:36Speaker 3: It's definitely an authoritative instrument, you know, and one that
- 6:39Speaker 3: needs to be wielded with great care.
- 6:41Speaker 2: You know.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Again, Adams a pro is such a good player, and
- 6:45Speaker 3: in the right hand, it just brings everything alive. Adds
- 6:48Speaker 3: another dynamic to the band, and again it makes the
- 6:52Speaker 3: band evolve. It's something that we didn't have on the
- 6:54Speaker 3: first record, something different for this one, and it just
- 6:58Speaker 3: again it just brought something else out in the and
- 7:00Speaker 3: I think it's magical.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Really well.
- 7:02Speaker 1: I love what you did with Evilized because I mean,
- 7:04Speaker 1: to me, that right there sets everything up with It's feisty,
- 7:07Speaker 1: it's got those guitar riffs and oh my god, those drums.
- 7:10Speaker 1: I mean, everything comes together. Seeing you better hold on
- 7:13Speaker 1: and if you want to put on a seat belt,
- 7:15Speaker 1: you're okay.
- 7:16Speaker 2: That's exactly what you want to achieve with the first
- 7:18Speaker 2: song on the record. I think you know you've hit
- 7:20Speaker 2: the nail.
- 7:20Speaker 3: On the head there, and when you open a record,
- 7:24Speaker 3: that's the statement you want to make coming out the
- 7:26Speaker 3: Kate and I think to anyone new coming on the back,
- 7:29Speaker 3: coming on and listening to the band, that's a great
- 7:32Speaker 3: message to put over and anyone that's a fan of
- 7:34Speaker 3: the band already hopefully they put that on.
- 7:37Speaker 2: And we kind of re established the relationship with them.
- 7:39Speaker 3: So we thought that was the perfect statement to support
- 7:44Speaker 3: as the first record, first truck on the records.
- 7:46Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Did you guys test out the song high Roller on
- 7:49Speaker 1: a live audience, because I want to know why it
- 7:51Speaker 1: only took me less than twenty five seconds to really
- 7:54Speaker 1: get into the flow of this song. I mean, it
- 7:57Speaker 1: instantly gets you because you know how radio people are
- 7:59Speaker 1: where's hook? Where's the hook? My god, the hook is
- 8:02Speaker 1: right there in the beginning.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Well again, we try and do that, We try and
- 8:07Speaker 3: grab the listener as soon as we can. And I
- 8:10Speaker 3: think that's one of those songs. I'm glad it grabbed
- 8:12Speaker 3: you like it was intended to do. We haven't played
- 8:16Speaker 3: it live yet, you know, back in the day you've
- 8:19Speaker 3: played the songs, and especially with the first album, you
- 8:22Speaker 3: played the songs live before you record them.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But we knew that this song had an energy. We
- 8:27Speaker 2: knew it it had a vibe and had a great hook.
- 8:30Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm glad again, I'm glad it call you.
- 8:33Speaker 3: And when we play these songs live, we're looking when
- 8:35Speaker 3: we put a song down, we look forward to playing
- 8:37Speaker 3: them live when you put when you record a song,
- 8:39Speaker 3: or when you write a song, you're always thinking how
- 8:42Speaker 3: is this going to translate live? Because it's an important
- 8:44Speaker 3: part of a song, an important part of an album.
- 8:47Speaker 3: How the song is going to go down live, because
- 8:49Speaker 3: it's part of the energy. How it's going to go
- 8:51Speaker 3: down live is really important.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I think I was going to.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Ask you about that because my weakness is I'll sit
- 8:55Speaker 1: there and while I'm in the studio, I'll go through
- 8:57Speaker 1: the emotionals moments of what it's you know, I'm thinking
- 9:00Speaker 1: of the live audience, and then I go out to
- 9:02Speaker 1: the car to listen to it to find out how
- 9:04Speaker 1: is that live audience going to take it when they're
- 9:06Speaker 1: stuck in traffic. I mean, do you do the same thing.
- 9:08Speaker 1: I mean even in earbuds. I've got to hear it.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Every place a listener is going to.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Be definitely the car.
- 9:14Speaker 3: I always go out to the car and listen to
- 9:16Speaker 3: mixes and when you're driving along and you usually end
- 9:19Speaker 3: up going, you know, over to speak limit, you know,
- 9:21Speaker 3: when you're listening to the fastest songs. But you're right,
- 9:23Speaker 3: different different songs for different moves and different places.
- 9:26Speaker 2: It definitely helps.
- 9:27Speaker 3: But yeah, if you listen to the songs in different contexts,
- 9:30Speaker 3: you could definitely get a feel for.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Where they're working and where they're not. But I think
- 9:34Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right.
- 9:35Speaker 3: You've got to get out and listen to them in
- 9:36Speaker 3: different places and see if they work.
- 9:38Speaker 2: And I think they do. Really, I think there's strong songs.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to talk about burning bridges in the
- 9:42Speaker 1: way that in my heart, I felt like it either
- 9:45Speaker 1: started out on the piano as an original idea or
- 9:47Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a tink tink tink
- 9:48Speaker 1: tink on that acoustic guitar and then all of a sudden,
- 9:51Speaker 1: the entire band steps in and boom, it's an explosion.
- 9:56Speaker 2: I've had that riff for about fifteen years, oh my god,
- 10:00Speaker 2: and I never found out the right home with it.
- 10:03Speaker 3: It's been in various forms before, but never seemed to work.
- 10:07Speaker 2: It never seemed to do anything. It was never happy
- 10:08Speaker 2: with it, or it didn't get used or whatever it was.
- 10:11Speaker 2: And as I was writing, I came up with some
- 10:14Speaker 2: other rifts, and I.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Remember thinking, I've got another rift that I haven't used
- 10:18Speaker 3: my fitness. So I dragged that one out of the
- 10:20Speaker 3: vault and put it to it. And funny enough that
- 10:23Speaker 3: one actually funny you should say that the song actually
- 10:26Speaker 3: started with a synth.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Again.
- 10:29Speaker 3: You know, I'm always trying to get the synths in there,
- 10:31Speaker 3: but the synth intro got canned.
- 10:35Speaker 2: I took it away. It was a bit superfluous, you know,
- 10:38Speaker 2: so it didn't get it.
- 10:39Speaker 3: But that's the way some of those songs come about.
- 10:42Speaker 3: You know, You've got risks sitting sitting around for a while,
- 10:45Speaker 3: you don't use them, and then somehow you write something
- 10:47Speaker 3: else and those risks become the key element to finishes
- 10:51Speaker 3: the song.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Wow, Richie, you got to come back to this show
- 10:53Speaker 1: anytime in the future. The door is always going to
- 10:55Speaker 1: be open for you.
- 10:57Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Man, Thanks for the support. Brother.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 11:00Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do my bit. Man. Thanks again.