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The Late Debate | 2 February · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lee gentleman, Welcome to the Lated pay.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with freyer Leitch and Joe Hildebrand. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Despite the Coalition's shocking result at last year's federal election,
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  Speaker 2: or the ex Coalition as it is now, it turns
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  Speaker 2: out they significantly outspent labor on their campaign. Will proof
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  Speaker 2: I suppose that the Libs have lost their mantlers, the
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  Speaker 2: better economic managers. As per usual, the singers and other
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  Speaker 2: alleged celebrities that the Grammys couldn't help it indulge their
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  Speaker 2: left wing fancies. Will show you some of the more
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  Speaker 2: unhinged statements later and in the papers. Speaking of that
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  Speaker 2: ex coalition, Susan Lee and David Little Proud have met tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently a reunification of the coalition could be on the cards.
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  Speaker 2: And Daniel Andrews was left quote in a bad way
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  Speaker 2: by a quote unquote neurological episode. More on that later
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  Speaker 2: in the Herald Sun. But first you would have seen
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  Speaker 2: the story that Paul broke at the top of the
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  Speaker 2: life staur, which is that Cory Bernardi, former Liberal Senator
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  Speaker 2: for South Australia will now be joining One Nation in
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  Speaker 2: South Australia. He will be running as their lead Upper
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  Speaker 2: House candidate at the state election next month.
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  Speaker 1: And this comes as the latest round.
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  Speaker 2: Of polling shows that indeed One Nation is doing exceptionally well.
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  Speaker 2: It's just yet another example of polling showing this. This
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  Speaker 2: is the red Bridge and Accent Research poll that was
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  Speaker 2: in the AFR today showing that to nationally, One Nation's
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  Speaker 2: primary vote is up to twenty six percent, which is
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  Speaker 2: up nine percent on the last result. Labors down one
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  Speaker 2: percent to thirty four, the Libs are seventeen and you
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  Speaker 2: add in two if there was a coalition and that
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  Speaker 2: would be nineteen. So One Nation is far and away
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  Speaker 2: the most popular party on the right in this country in.
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  Speaker 1: Every available poll.
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  Speaker 2: Now and going back to South Australia, there was a
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  Speaker 2: story in the Advertiser today One Nation and paul In
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  Speaker 2: Hanson saying that they are going to run a candidate in.
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  Speaker 1: Every single seat at the state election.
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  Speaker 2: Now. South Australia has a lower House of forty seven
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  Speaker 2: seats and an Upper House of twenty two seats, so
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  Speaker 2: this will really be the first test, first real test
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  Speaker 2: of this polling that we've seen showing how popular One
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  Speaker 2: Nation apparently is.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we have a.
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  Speaker 2: Preferential voting system in this country, and South Australia has
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  Speaker 2: a full preferential voting system. They don't have optional preferential
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  Speaker 2: voting as some states do, so you have to number
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  Speaker 2: every single box. So it does make the job of
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  Speaker 2: getting seat in the Lower House a lot harder, a
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  Speaker 2: bit easier in the Upper House. But it will be
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  Speaker 2: interesting to see now they've got Cory Bernardi on board,
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  Speaker 2: a well known guy in South Australia, a good fella,
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  Speaker 2: i have to say, and a maid of mine. But
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  Speaker 2: this will be the first real test whether or not
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  Speaker 2: One Nation can pull it off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the first test, you're right, will be how
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  Speaker 4: does the polling translate into votes at the election. But
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  Speaker 4: the second test is how many of the elected One
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  Speaker 4: Nation members actually stay in one Nation after the election.
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  Speaker 4: One Nation did get an Upper House member at the
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  Speaker 4: last South Australian election, Sarah Game, but she left the
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  Speaker 4: party and became an independent. All three One Nation members
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  Speaker 4: of the Upper House in New South Wales have left
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  Speaker 4: the party and become independents. If you look back at
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  Speaker 4: One Nation's whole history, since nineteen ninety eight, over ninety
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  Speaker 4: percent of all One Nation members ever elected to Parliament
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  Speaker 4: have left the party and defected to other parties or
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  Speaker 4: become independents. So I think that will be the real
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  Speaker 4: test is this, and this is the test if you
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  Speaker 4: want to go from just being a protest vote send
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  Speaker 4: a message to the Liberals be more conservative, versus actually
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  Speaker 4: be a political force in your own right. I think
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  Speaker 4: clearly there's something institutionally that they'll have to deal with
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  Speaker 4: if they're going to buck the trend of the last
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  Speaker 4: twenty five years, which is that yeah, they can get
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  Speaker 4: people elected, but once they're elected, they don't tend to
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  Speaker 4: stick around.
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  Speaker 5: And they also had I think eleven members in a
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  Speaker 5: Queensland state election who all just sort of, you know,
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  Speaker 5: disappeared like a wave hitting the rocks. But all of
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  Speaker 5: that happened when the Coalition had a three in front
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  Speaker 5: of its primary vote, not as we have seen among
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  Speaker 5: the former coalition parties combined have a one in front
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  Speaker 5: of it. I have never seen the Coalition in such
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  Speaker 5: dire straits as it is now and with so little
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  Speaker 5: of an apparent strategy to dig its way out of
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  Speaker 5: the hole. And you have an election in South Australia
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  Speaker 5: where the Libs are already right up against it, and
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  Speaker 5: malanowskis is hoping to hoping to emulate the success of
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  Speaker 5: the former premier in WA and basically just wipe out
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  Speaker 5: the party all together, which is pretty much on track
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  Speaker 5: to do. That's the reason why the Libs just knife
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  Speaker 5: down last leader, because they are only going to get
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  Speaker 5: about as many seats as you could count on the
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  Speaker 5: fingers of one hand. We know that Mark McGowan did
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  Speaker 5: it the last election. He contested and turned the opposition
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  Speaker 5: into two in the Liberal Party and then made them
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  Speaker 5: the junior party to the WA Nats, which is an
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  Speaker 5: added humiliation if one nation is got I agree with you.
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  Speaker 5: This is a party that does not have great organizational structure.
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  Speaker 5: But they've now announced obviously Barnaby Joyce, who knows how
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  Speaker 5: to get out in campaign. They've now got Corey Bernani
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  Speaker 5: who still have his Australian Conservatives' mailing list hid on
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  Speaker 5: a backup disc somewhere because of course he tried to
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  Speaker 5: startup a riving party two and that's why he left
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  Speaker 5: the Libs and that also collapsed. Yeah, but if all
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  Speaker 5: these conservative forces are getting together and not splitting unto themselves,
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  Speaker 5: and they're actually getting experienced politicians instead of just sort
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  Speaker 5: of random people have never been exposed to politics before
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  Speaker 5: and then get shoved in the Senate and then suddenly.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's the difference, is that if one nation wants
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  Speaker 2: to be genuinely successful, it has to acknowledge that what
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  Speaker 2: it has in front of it now is an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: that extends beyond just Pauline Hanson. And of course the
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  Speaker 2: party used to be called Pauline Hanson's One Nation. They've
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  Speaker 2: officially removed Pauline Hanson's name from the name of the party,
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  Speaker 2: which would seem to be a recognition of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that this is bigger now than just Pauline, and bringing
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby on board as well, who you know, is a personality,
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  Speaker 2: and showing that you can have both Pauline and Barnaby
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  Speaker 2: in the same party.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're trying to move in the right.
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  Speaker 2: Direction, which is that if this thing is going to work,
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  Speaker 2: it can't just be all about Pauline. It has to
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  Speaker 2: operate like any other party. But it's not easy to do.
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  Speaker 2: But they're making an effort.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing is what you get when you operate
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  Speaker 4: like any other party. Is a lack of control, you
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  Speaker 4: get factional in fighting, you get all the things that
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  Speaker 4: led to people like Barnaby and Corey Bernardi leaving other parties.
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  Speaker 4: Now the way Pauline Hanson runs One Nation where essentially
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  Speaker 4: the federal executive is completely controlled by her. Her daughter
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  Speaker 4: is now the president or the head of the federal executive.
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  Speaker 4: She was president for life. I'm not sure if she's
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  Speaker 4: relinquished that or pass that down to her daughter, But
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  Speaker 4: if you think about the way she controls it, it
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  Speaker 4: is her party still in the constitution and there's nothing
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  Speaker 4: anyone can do about that. So if that changes, well
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  Speaker 4: then One Nation is going to encounter all the same
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  Speaker 4: problems that has plagued the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 5: But that was that there's actually also also a precedent
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  Speaker 5: though for her still maintaining her leadership of the party
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  Speaker 5: and yet not being its first Prime minister. So the
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  Speaker 5: Daily Telegraph put out an amazing headline that has sent
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  Speaker 5: out to its subscribers. So I dropped in my inbox
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  Speaker 5: and said, could Barnaby Joyce be one Nation's first PM?
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  Speaker 5: And ialking about is Tim Blair? Yesterday? And did my
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  Speaker 5: column on and basically made it a kind of piss
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  Speaker 5: tape because structurally, like for all the reasons you said,
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  Speaker 5: how does he get there? But in fact I mean
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  Speaker 5: if they do win enough Lower House seats, Pauline is
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  Speaker 5: still a senator. She would have to move to the
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  Speaker 5: Lower House if she wanted to be Prime minister. Barnaby
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  Speaker 5: Joyce kind of back pedals on his word a bit
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  Speaker 5: and runs for New England again, which presumably he will
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  Speaker 5: do if he's going to be the Prime minister, or
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  Speaker 5: even if he runs for the Senate, who knows, but
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  Speaker 5: he could potentially be Prime Minister while Pauline Hanson remains
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  Speaker 5: leader of the Labour Party. And that is exactly what
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  Speaker 5: happened in nineteen forty in wartime Britain where Winston Churchill
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  Speaker 5: was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, but he
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  Speaker 5: wasn't the leader of the Conservative Party. That was still
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  Speaker 5: Neville Chamberlain. So you know which one do you remember?
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  Speaker 4: Look, we're in unprecedented times, that's for sure. But let's
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  Speaker 4: go down to Victoria where Victorian politics has taken a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of an interesting turn with the remarks from
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  Speaker 4: this Liberal Deputy leader David Southwick was speaking at a
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  Speaker 4: young liberal AGM, no doubt the sight of many great
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  Speaker 4: political you've fend a deep conversation solving the.
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  Speaker 3: Challenges of the day.
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  Speaker 4: While he was there giving a speech to the crowd,
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  Speaker 4: he said, we need to make Victoria great again. And
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  Speaker 4: liberal people in the room leaked this to the papers
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  Speaker 4: papers and complain and said, you know, this speaks to
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  Speaker 4: a lack of judgment.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not that popular.
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  Speaker 4: But I say to them, what is so wrong with
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  Speaker 4: saying make Victoria great again? If you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: make Victoria great, then why you in public life. I
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  Speaker 4: do understand, you know, maybe it was never great, So
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  Speaker 4: just make Victoria great.
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  Speaker 5: First.
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  Speaker 1: There was a time.
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  Speaker 3: I don't get what the tantrums all about.
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  Speaker 2: There was a go and ask Jeff Kenned if Victoria
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  Speaker 2: was great once?
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  Speaker 1: There was a time. I think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe these people running off to
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  Speaker 2: the the paper and you know, the heralds don't understand
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  Speaker 2: why they published the story. But you know, for these
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  Speaker 2: senior liberal is quoted as saying a self styled moderate
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  Speaker 2: liberal borrowing slogans from American politics to fire up young
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  Speaker 2: liberals is at best odd. I mean, okay, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to know why the Victorian Liberals are in so
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  Speaker 2: much trouble. It's because the deputy leader gets up at
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  Speaker 2: a young Liberal meeting and says our state should be
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  Speaker 2: great and then senior liberals quote unquote are running off
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  Speaker 2: to the newspaper to complain that that's what he wanted.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what.
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  Speaker 2: Remember last time this happened, it wasn't David Southwick, but
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  Speaker 2: at a federal level it was just into Nampa, jimp
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  Speaker 2: for price.
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  Speaker 1: We can make Australia great again.
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  Speaker 3: Is that an ode to Donald Trump?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 5: If I said that, I don't even realize I said that.
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  Speaker 1: But no, and that became a big hullablue. Oh look,
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to come through in the words
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  Speaker 1: of Peter Dutton, and on and on it went.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just don't get why they're jumping up
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  Speaker 2: and down when they need everything they possibly can to
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  Speaker 2: pull together to have a good showing at the state
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  Speaker 2: election in November, and they're infighting about the fact the
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  Speaker 2: deputy leaders said make Victoria gratinggain.
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  Speaker 5: I'm reminded I watched the Life of Brian again recently
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  Speaker 5: and I was right of the ending where he gets
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  Speaker 5: an emissary when he's hanging there on the cross at
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  Speaker 5: the end, and people are so proud of his work
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  Speaker 5: that he gets an embassy from I think it's the
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  Speaker 5: Judean Suicide People's Front and they all come up through
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  Speaker 5: and say, Brian, who thinks they're hit to rescue him,
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  Speaker 5: and instead they all kill themselves in front of him.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what the Liberal Party in Victoria reminds me
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  Speaker 5: of every time they have the remotest chance to get
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  Speaker 5: a bit of momentum from a government that is absolutely broken,
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  Speaker 5: from a state that is absolutely broken, where people are
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  Speaker 5: literally depressed and they just cannot stop committing Harry, they
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  Speaker 5: cannot stop killing themselves. And this is there's a couple
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  Speaker 5: of things. Firstly, let's accept the just Iner priced thing, right,
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  Speaker 5: So she said make Australia, and I love Justina so
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  Speaker 5: I'm not having go. But she said make Australia great again,
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  Speaker 5: which she quite frankly shouldn't have done in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of an election campaign which was launched just after Donald
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  Speaker 5: Trump was extremely unpopular because he just announced massive tariffs
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  Speaker 5: on Australia. He hadn't provided ended war in the Middle
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  Speaker 5: East for the first time in human history, so he
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  Speaker 5: was really on the nose and people were still reeling
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  Speaker 5: a bit from this, and she said, mate, Australia great again.
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  Speaker 5: And of course Peter Dutton was already label was already
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  Speaker 5: trying to box Peter Dutton as a Trump mini me.
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  Speaker 5: And so that was, you know, strategically, tactically, foolish whatever whatever.
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  Speaker 5: This Firstly, the situation isn't the same now, right, So
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  Speaker 5: making Victoria great again for one thing, it doesn't spell maga,
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  Speaker 5: so you know, I think that's all right. For another thing,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, if you're not trying to make Victoria great,
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  Speaker 5: what are you doing in politics?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly?
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  Speaker 5: The most amazed And this is the thing that really
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  Speaker 5: gets me. This is whereas you know, we honor you O'Brien,
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  Speaker 5: is because you have someone who is so David Southwick.
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  Speaker 5: He's a moderate, he's just been made deputy leader again
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  Speaker 5: under Jess Wilson. He has said something that you think
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  Speaker 5: probably isn't too you know, isn't too smart and might
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  Speaker 5: not go down well with voters. So what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: Run and give it to them?
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  Speaker 5: You leak it? Yeah, you actually say, oh this gets out,
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  Speaker 5: this could really hurt us, and then you leak it.
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  Speaker 1: Is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 5: And this is why. And again it's obviously been leaked
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  Speaker 5: from a moderate. It was even more moderate than him. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: not even across faction. Part of the power play where
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  Speaker 5: you're trying to seize power from, you know, someone from
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  Speaker 5: the right because you think that only a moderate can
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  Speaker 5: it can be successful. This is someone who's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know, guess what this guy said. This would really
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  Speaker 5: heard our chances at the election if it got out here.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: That is so typical.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you need to do a check for sort
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  Speaker 5: of you know, adequate mental thundrect.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to win. It is a actually want
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  Speaker 3: to win.
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  Speaker 2: And we've been in this position so many times with
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  Speaker 2: the Victorian Liberals and here we are again. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, when he finds out that Jess Wilson and
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  Speaker 2: David Southwick are basically proteges.
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  Speaker 1: Of him, will be most shocked.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you are in Victoria and thinking, my god,
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  Speaker 2: this this place is just goined, you know, down the train,
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  Speaker 2: I've got to get out of here. I wouldn't recommend
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  Speaker 2: you move to the Cotswarts or many other parts of
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  Speaker 2: rural England at the moment because well, they've decided there's
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  Speaker 2: not enough diversity there and so they must thrust it
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  Speaker 2: upon the lovely parts of England where people normally go
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  Speaker 2: to get away from the city and all the troubles
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  Speaker 2: that are going on in London, et cetera. No, they
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  Speaker 2: say we need more diversity because the place is too white.
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  Speaker 2: This is from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural
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  Speaker 2: Affairs deaf RA, they call them. Death is probably what
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  Speaker 2: he's coming to these parts of the UK if they're
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  Speaker 2: not careful England, I should say more accurately, But.
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  Speaker 1: They've decided that basically there.
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  Speaker 2: Are too many white people living in places like the
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  Speaker 2: Cotswaltz and that is a bad thing, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't say there are too many Indians or too
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  Speaker 2: many Pakistanis or living in any particular part of the country,
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  Speaker 2: but too many white people. So we've got to change this.
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  Speaker 2: And so, amongst other things, they are going to now
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  Speaker 2: deliberately seek to encourage Muslims to move into rural parts
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  Speaker 2: of England because you know, if they live in the city,
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  Speaker 2: that's bad. They've got to be spread out across the
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  Speaker 2: entire country.
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  Speaker 5: If they don't want to, I know, exactly the force march.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to go.
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  Speaker 5: You don't the last time a government did that I remember.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to start putting out all their documents
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  Speaker 2: and things in like other languages, because apparently that'll change
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  Speaker 2: things significantly. And all the marketing material now will you know,
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  Speaker 2: have people of diverse ethnic minorities and whatever in it,
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  Speaker 2: So even if they don't live there, it looks like
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  Speaker 2: they maybe live there, so it gives the idea that, like, seriously, you've.
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  Speaker 4: Forgot one of the best ones. They're going to encourage
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  Speaker 4: people to keep their dogs on a tighter leash so
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  Speaker 4: as not to offend Muslim dislike dogs.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: If they haven't already moved there, maybe it's because they
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  Speaker 2: don't want to live there. And now we're going to
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  Speaker 2: force it upon the entire country, all parts of it.
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  Speaker 2: If there are too many white people, it must be
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  Speaker 2: down the way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for goodness sake.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the Cotswolds is pretty white, which is why
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  Speaker 5: I suspect most Muslims don't want to go there because
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  Speaker 5: they just think there's a bunch of boring old tofts
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  Speaker 5: just sitting around fly fishing.
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  Speaker 3: But what is wrong with that?
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  Speaker 4: What is wrong with the English countryside being preserved as
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  Speaker 4: it is? That is not to say people of different
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  Speaker 4: backgrounds shouldn't be able to move there, but.
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  Speaker 3: To actively stay.
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  Speaker 4: Actually say, we are going to change the language of
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  Speaker 4: government material. We are going to promote a campaign to
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  Speaker 4: increase the ethnic diversity of the countryside. Why no one
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  Speaker 4: voted for this. In fact, they're voting against this. They're
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  Speaker 4: voting for reform in record numbers, especially in these regional areas.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't understand what authority the Department of Environment,
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  Speaker 4: Food and Rural Affairs think they have to run an
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: internal migration scheme.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Are they saying that it'll make the Cotswolves in such
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: places irrelevant?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know whether the people are differ return on
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the telly at all, but the Cotswolds are getting a
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: pretty good run at the moment because there's this television
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: program made by Amazon called Clarkson's Farm and in the Cotswolds,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: and it happens to be one of the most watched
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: television programs in the world.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And Clarkson's Farm, which's.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Just the sort of white supremacy I expected.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: From you, and pub like tourism draw cards in the Cotstles,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: but the place is going to become.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: A relevant Oh you don't enough more, big Caleb.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: The pub culture is also offensive according to this mob,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: because it discriminates and is uncomfortable for cultures that don't
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: drink alcohol. They want to assault every part of English
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: country culture. But the other question I also had reading
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: this is Anglo British people are a minority in the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: UK's two largest cities, London and Birmingham. Will we have
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: a similar drive to promote white people moving into the
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: cities to promote the ethnic diversity of London and Birmingham.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Probably not. It tends to only go one way.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I'm all like to be I think it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: great that the Cotswolds is as white and waspy as
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: it is, because it is the sort of place that
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I like to avoid, like the plague. I do not
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: like overpriced paddocktor plate boutique Manica honey that costs you know,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: six hundred dollars for SS terrible And so this way
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I know where not to go.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: You won't have to worry about Joe Hildebrand moving in
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: next door.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: I don't have to worry about this white guy but
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: that's it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: They don't want you anyway, you've been banished, make you should.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: My friend Muhammad, however, loves homies natively.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: So they've got the peace of the plot of land
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: set aside for him. And if that's not good enough
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: for you. The Church of England is also on board
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: with all of this. They've been given all the Diocese
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of London has, by the upper echelons of the church
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: been given seven hundred and thirty thousand pounds one and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a half million Australian dollars there about, probably a bit
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: less than that, but somewhere around there to make sure
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that they're preaching anti racism in the church, and they
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: too must be more in who Look, I would have thought,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and I know the Anglican Church has been a bit
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: off killed.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: For a while now.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But like you go along to church not to be
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: lectured about racism specifically, but aren't you going along to
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: hear the word of the Lord?
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Look, they wonder why the Church of England is in
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: a massive decline. They've had three and a half thousand
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: churches closed over the last ten years. But it also
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: makes you wonder, do the people designing this program have
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: they ever actually read the Bible. Have they ever read
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: this section where it says neither Jude nor gentile, neither
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: slave or free, neither male or female, all or one
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: in Christ.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Jesus the Corinthians, I believe, I will.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Charge you seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds, and I
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: will go to your church and I will read that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: verse out. And that is all the anti racism training
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you need. It's right there in the original text. What
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: this is is just political It is political activism in
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the church to push left wing ideology, and it is
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: exactly why the Church of England is dying.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: And in fact, the person who wrote that Paul Saul
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: of Tasks became Paul was you know, he was. He was.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: He didn't see race quite literally because Jesus blinded him
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: and so yeah, he was very very color blind and
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: everything else blind. But he did he made a full recovery.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: But then he got executed by the Romans.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Well, there would go the Bible, the original anti racists.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: The Romans not racist at all, very very multiculture. They
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: killed and crucified a lot of people and enslaved a
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: lot of them, but never on the basis of race.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Again, some would argue that was part of the downfall
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of the Roman Empire was the fracturing of Romana.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Actually, Edward gibbons argument was that Christianity was the downfall
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: of the Roman Empire because it made worship and faith
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: and celebration of religion not a public institution but one
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of more private contemplation. And then of course there was
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: the Aryan revolt in the third century a d. But
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: I've said too much, haven't.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I interesting history over there?
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Well, let's change gears slightly and talk about AI. Mark Zuckerberg,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: in a recent meeting announced that Google is going to
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: be condensing a lot of its jobs and teams and
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: basically replacing whole teams that would have had dozens of
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: employees in them with Meta Meta with one person and
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: a I. They already laid off hundreds of jobs in
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: their AI department, and their AI spending is going to
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: increase by sixty.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Percent over the next year.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Now, I understand there are concerns around AI replacing jobs,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: but AI also boosts productivity. Those people that were working.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: You had ten people doing one job. Now it can
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: be done by one person. Well, those people can all
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: go do other jobs and add more value. To the economy.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: So I think this is just where we're heading as
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: a society. Technology will always lead to productivity, innovations, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: yes there are some costs, but overwhelmingly the benefit to
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: our living standards, to our wages will be positive.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: What you want machines to rise up and enslave us all,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: what you're saying.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to happen.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: But you're the sort of person who would have the
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: nuclear codes and just press the red button just to
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: see what it looked like.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to happen.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I think what does to What it will mean is
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: everyone will get.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: A high IQ assistant at the touch of a button.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Which is no good for our IQs.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: To do what but it will help productivity, to help
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: with research. To what it will do is AI will
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: automate white collar bureaucracy. Anything that is filling out forms,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: doing pretty repetitive tasks in white collar jobs. That'll all
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: be automated.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I think that's great.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: And c solicitors marching in the.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Streets, government bureaucracies massive people puts out of work. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: they can find other jobs. I think the problem the
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: purse is not a great place.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: But what are the jobs though? That's the point. And
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: by the way, it's not only sure.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: What we're talking about here is sort of office work,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and we're talking about mass layoffs here, like a job
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that used to be done by a large team now
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: being done by one dude with an AI bot.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: But it won't just be office jobs that will be
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: claimed by AI.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Eventually it'll be drivers, but they track taxi delivery whatever.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That will all become automated.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: There is essentially nothing apart from something that requires you
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like me. For instance, Look, I hope maybe you're going
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to start taking your opinion from AI, but I'd like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to think that people like us will remain in a
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: job for a while. You want to, yeah, well hopefully
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: because you want a human to talk to you directly
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: about what's going on.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: In the news.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But there's almost nothing that cannot be automated in some
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: way with the help of AI.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So it's not just white collar jobs.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: It will go down the toll Well, why is that
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: a bad thing? This is exactly where are we going
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: to give that money from. This is exactly what people
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: said during the Industrial Revolution. The lattites went in blowing
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: up machines because they were so concerned. And yes, a
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: lot of them did lose jobs. They did their skills
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: were no longer needed, but they found other jobs.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: But it was still human beings. That was about automation,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: not about a potential rival intelligence source. So this is
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the thing I always put to you. What happens when
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: AI gets the ultimate you know, the ultimate challenge, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: someone says, hey, Ai, I've got all the modeling, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: climate changes here, It's real. It's going to destroy the
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: planet in you know, fifty years unless we act now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: And AI says, right, the only way I can save
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: the most number of human beings on the planet and
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: ensure the human race survives is by arbitrarily killing half
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: the population at random.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: So if hypothetically, Joe, we could design the perfect world
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: where that definitely will not happen, would you support AI
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: being rolled out?
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: But who's going to stop it from huts?
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Say we could? Would you support it in the labor market.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: No, because because machine making decisions, you basically got a
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: machine making decisions about humans. So you are seeding your
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: own sovereignty not to another human being, but to a machine.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Say we can put guard rails around that you don't think.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: You can't be There's no way you can put guardrails.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Elon Musk has already said, it's already out of the box.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: And even if you put guardrails about it, you're relying
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: and say, okay, all nine billion people obey the rules please.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And it was only take it's nearly three years ago
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: now there was an open letter signed by Elon Master,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Steve was Niak and all these top guys, even that
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the head what's his name, sam Oltman Open AI all
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: put out this open letter saying we need to hold
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: development of AI now and bring in regulation before it
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: goes downhill with three years down the line.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Has that happened?
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: No, no, But we also thought the same thing about
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: nuclear weapons in the twentieth century, and nuclear proliferation never happened.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I think we will innovate our life.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: It nearly did. Like it was only there were two occasions.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: There was a Cuban missile crisis and then there was
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: a NATO training exercise that the Russian in nineteen eighties
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: that the Russians thought were a real was a real
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: invasion for real invasion like that, you know, these were
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: you know, both those occasions. It was literally just one
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: one decision, one phone call that stopped the world from
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: being obliterated. And you know why it wasn't obliterated because
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: the people making decisions were humans. They didn't want to
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: be responsible for the death of the world, and they said, actually,
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: I'll probably.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Save more lines, and they have they have discretion, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: that's what I really worry about. But in positive news,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine does work in the AI sector.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: She's taking dirty money and sort of feels uncomfortable about it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Oh there's money I'll take.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, But her view is that AI is one massive
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme and that all of the big companies involved
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: in AI are essentially borrowing money from each other to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: make all of this stuff work, and that at some
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: point it'll be bigger than the dot com bust. It'll
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: all blow up because it's all being propped up by
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: basically money that doesn't exist at the moment.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: So look, we'll wait and see whether that's.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: It really is bringing about the end of the world.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: That's not that exactly.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I really hope that is what happens. And some people
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: who may well be wanting to use AI though to
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: make some smarter decisions, are the ex coalition. Now, of course,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: when they were together as a coalition and they went
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to the federal election last year, they copped an absolute pasting.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Of course, we know, ninety four seats is what the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Labor Party has in the Federal Parliament, the lower house. Now,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think the Libs in the last two elections have
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: lost thirty four seats in total, so that they've been
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: going backwards at a rate of knots, and so they
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: must have thought, hell, we've got to do something about this.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So they spent up big at the federal election on
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: their campaign, and it turns out that they spent despite
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the terrible result they returned. They spent fifty five million
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: dollars more on their campaign than Labor did. Four hundred
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and fourteen point eight million dollars over the twenty twenty
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: four to twenty five financial year, sorry to two hundred
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: and fourteen point eight million is what they spent, fifty
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: five point two million dollars more than the Labor Party.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Obviously, spending money doesn't necessarily result in wealth results, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the greatest example of it is is Trump in the US,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: who spent vastly less on his campaigns than the Democrats have.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: But of course Trump has done very well out of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the fact he gets a lot more media coverage than
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the Democrats, so he takes that to be his campaigning.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Basically every time his name appears in a newspaper on
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the television, well, why do I need to buy age?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: They're just talking about me all the time.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But it's a lot of money to spend to get
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: basically well not just nothing in return to go backwards
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: compared to what the ALPL spent and went way up.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: Well, the good thing is the Liberals can feel a
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: little bit better about themselves because they didn't have the
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: worst return on investment. Clive Palmer spent fifty four million
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: dollars in the last financial year for even less to
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: show of it, so you know, it could have been worse.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: But you're right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: When these dynamics are on and you have headwinds from Trump,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: a poor campaign, lack of policy formulation ahead of time,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter how much you spend on digital ads,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: how much you spend on TV ads. Voters can tell
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: they will sniff through the big money spend the big
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: ads splashes, and they did at the last election.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. You'll forget both sides just winging about
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: how much the other side spent, and even if you
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: look at the Voice campaign, where you know hundreds of
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: millions were spent on that, and if people don't like
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: the message, no amount of advertising, no amount of money,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: will convince them. And I actually crunched the numbers for
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: our friend Clive because of course a lot of people
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: in Labor were saying, oh, we should have won the
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: twenty nineteen election, but it was only because Clive Palmer
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: spent all that money and he got three point four
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: percent of the vote, and then all those votes went
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: to the coalition. Now I would have thought those people
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: probably weren't voting Labor in the first place, and it
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: was just right wing voters going there and then coming
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: back to the coalition. But I did crunch the numbers,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: so three point four percent. There were about fifteen million
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: voters in the federal election in twenty nineteen. That was
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: about five hundred and twenty five thousand voters who voted
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: for Clive Palmer's party, and that amounted to just get this,
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: one hundred fifteen dollars thereabouts for every single vote that
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: they got. So they are paying more than one hundred dollars.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: You probably would have had better odds if you just paid,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: if you just had volunteers at polling booth's handing over
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: behind fields.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Well me and you've just had well.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: As I recall, they were actually paying people to hand
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: out the how to vote cards for Palmer's party at that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Was hard to spend, and paying the voters, not the voluntary.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And then the weird add in today all these files,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the new Epstein files that have been released in the US,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and this alleged text from Steve Bannon, of course, one
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: of Trump's former strategists, to Jeffrey Epstein that read, I
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: had Clive Palmer do the sixty million dollar anti China
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and climate change.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Adds, yes, that's the objective.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Next top Kazakhstan, and they're talking about foreign influence, which
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: is why they've got these messages about objectives and Kazakhstan,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: et cetera, to which mister Palmer told the ABC today
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: that he has never spoken to Bannon, and of course
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: there is no evidence that there was any interaction at
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: all between Bannon and Clive Palmer. But interesting that everyone's
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: trying to claim that they had a patience they.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Can but if you're if you, if you're a pH
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: any sort of strategist or power broker, that is exactly
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: what you do every time. You wait until something has happened,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: and then you pretend that it was all your doing.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: So I don't say any victory has elected as the Yeah, exactly. Well,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: let's go to the Grammys now, obviously one of the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: biggest moments in pop culture every year that people are
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: increasingly sick and tired of. And it's no wonder it
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: was full of the typical political statements. One of the
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: most absurd ones came from Billie Eilish, who parroted a
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: line that we've heard all too often here in Australia.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: No one is illegal on stolen land.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: So how do you think think it would go if
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I rocked up at her twenty million dollar California mansion
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: and just decided to cut snugle up in a bed
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: and make a clone for myself. I thought no one
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: was illegal open borders.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake, it is great when you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: see people who don't have to worry about anything in life.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: This is the same woman who, by the way, at
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: another awards night said, you know, if you're a billionaire.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Why you're a billionaire.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: You know, it's okay to be a millionaire, Joe, as
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: long as you're not as long as the multimillionaires are good.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Just don't be a billionaire. And she can stand there
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: and lecture it. Oh, no, one is illegal if you're
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: on stolen land. But she doesn't have to worry about
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the consequences of that because she lives in her nice
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: little enclave where she doesn't have to see any of
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: these people.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's also just so incredible. I just don't
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: know why. And it's because I like Billy Eye. She's
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: got great songs, My kids love her. But it is
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: so damaging when celebrities jump on board a bad wagon
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: like this, because the truth is that the best advertisement
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: against ICE is the image that they're these gun toting
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: semi machine gun firing, you know, crazy murderous people who
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: are killing these poor innocent you know, on ice or
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: that's both. But this is the thing, Like, what you
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: you want the face of if you believe that ICE
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: is brutal and shouldn't be doing its job, you want
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: the face to be a poor, young Hispanic mum who's
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: being you know, grabbed by a commando and thrown on
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: the ground. Right, you don't want it to be some
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: wanky celebrity as getting up and signaling at an awards ceremony.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: And as soon as that happens, you just think any
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: anyone who might have been into mind says god, you're
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: a wank.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Well, another wanky celebrity literally said ice out.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: I'm going to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: Say, eyes out. We're not savers, we're not animals, we're
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: not aliens, weird humans and your American the hed get
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: more powerful with more heed. The only thing that is
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: more powerful than he is love.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Love is also stopping rapists, pedophiles, cartel members from crossing
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: the border and abusing American citizens.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: It's very Adelaide writers week, though they also hate Ice.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: It's though there was a diverse range of review views,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: unlike Adelaide writers, at least when Vanilla Ice won his award,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: he said Ice Ice Paper, Indeed, all.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: The problems in uist politics solved at the Grammys. Up next,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: after the break, we'll get into the papers. What's going
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: on with Daniel Andrews. We haven't seen him for a
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: little while, and updating tomorrow's herald son.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Don't know why.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Back to the news we're talking about at the top
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of the show, which is that Corey Bernardi is going
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to join One Nation in Australia to run at.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: The state election. Prayer the advertiser has it on the front.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the headline is rocked to the cory.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: The Liberal Party's state election campaign has been torpedoed by
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: former member Corey Bernardi, who will lead the charge for
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: One Nation. Mister Benardi will be the top Upper House
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: candidate for Pauline Hanson at the March poll. Senator Hanson
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: revealed that he had been in positive discussions with Corey
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: for some time, declaring his strong sound conservative values were
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: an excellent fit. And just a reminder, Corey Bnardi will
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: be on Paul Murray tomorrow night, no doubt answering our
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: pressing questions. But look, if I were the South Australian Liberals,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: I would sleep in. I would be feeling pretty depressed
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It's a bit like that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And I mean Corey's running a restaurant now down down
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: near his work Coffine Bay, and you know, I think
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: he's been quite enjoying life out of the political scene. Yeah, correct,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I was a regular ye and I think he was
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: sort of keen to get away from public life for
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a while. So I would think that having made the
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: decision to come back into public life, he's doing it
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: because he A sees an opportunity and B is really
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: keen to do so, because I don't think he would
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: have made this decision lightly.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So he's not doing this to mack around.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: He's doing it because he really thinks something can happen
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in South Australia.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: And as I just realized, and we were talking about
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: this earlier, but having known it for years and years
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I've known Corey and I just realized he looked exactly
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: like Simon the Red Wiggle. Am I the first person
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: to spot this one? Also a very dear friend of
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: mine who I love. I say this with great love
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: and indeed affection. He looks like Simon. You reckon seeing
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: a guy with the baby?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's been moonlight.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Very fit, very good looking man. George, send me a.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Text if you're watching, I'd like to know what you
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: think of that. Let's have a look at the front
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of the Australian tomorrow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: First step.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: That's all the mums too. I've heard well that it makes.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Sense first steps to seal coalition rebirth. Susan Lee and
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: David little Proud have taken the first steps towards the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: potential reunification of the coalition in a crucial meeting on
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Monday evening, with the Deputy Nationals leader declaring a lot
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of progress was made towards restoring the historically successful political partnership,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: but a new coalition deal is unlikely to be struck
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: before question time tomorrow, paving the way for an historic
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: day in Parliament with fourteen Nationals MP's to sit on
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: a cross bench that will be as big as the opposition.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: The discussions came as Liberal MPs urged Angus Taylor to
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: challenge the Opposition leader by April Fool's Day, the final
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: parliamentary sitting day before a five week break.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Leading into the May budget. Yes, probably don't do it
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: on April Fool's Day. That may the.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Imaginary diary that I wrote for Barnaby Joyce becoming Prime Minister,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I actually picked April fourth day as the day of
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: film and that tells you, That tells you just how
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: fast it call.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That would make total sense. Oh, look they've had a meeting.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe things will get back together, in which case you're
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: kind of got to ask the question, oh, do.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: We have to do this again?
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's the thing if the coalition
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: is going to get back together, which they have to
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: do frankly for both of their political survival. And I
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: think the appetite overwhelmingly among MPs in the Liberals and
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: the Nationals is for reunification. But they need to sort
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: out whatever is going on that has caused them to split,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: not once but twice. Is it a personality difference between
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Little Proud and Lee? Is it just they can't work together.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: There's something going on because this doesn't happen twice and
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: it can't happen again.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: It's simply an inability to compromise in the best interests
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: of getting the party elected because you so fanatically believe
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: in whatever your particular gender or belief system is that
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: you actually cannot let it go. As Winston Churchill said,
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: fanatic is some who can't change their mind and won't
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: change the subject. And it started with all the net
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: zero stuff straight after the election, and it's just been
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: getting worse and worse and worse. Evidence anyway, let's get
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: to the Herald' sign for my old hometown. I was
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: down there on Saturday and for fiftieth in Melbourne, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: I've got to say, after a few drinks, it's pretty
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: good place. Anyway, you need a few drinks. Medical medical shakeup,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: GPS give it the power to diagnose disorder in children
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: and adults without seeing a psychiatrist. What as easy as ADHD?
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Shannon Deery says GPS would be given the power to
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: diagnose and treat ADHD in a bold Oliver haul of
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: the system set to be announced by just Into Allen.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: Isn't this already happening in other state? Is now? I
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: got all my meds from a GP, and look at me,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: I'm fighting fit as a fiddle. Anyway, the Premier will
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: unveil plans to make it easier for ADHD diagnosis to
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: be made for hundreds of thousand Victorians, a bid to
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: cut down on assessment waiting lists and costs. Look, that
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: sounds pretty sensible to me, whether it's bold after one
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: else has done it. But let's get to the real
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: story on the front page of Harold Sign which is
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Andrews is back, except that no one really knew he
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: went away. Dan's long road to recovery. Reads the little
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: blurb on the top of the front page, and it
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: emerges that Dan Andrews, which virtually no one knew, was
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: kept very tight lipped, suffered a neurological event. A different
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: claims about to how serious it was. Some are saying
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: his speech and movement was affected. Other saying no, no, no,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: it's fine. He's made a really good recovery. Maybe both
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: those things are true. There's a quote saying that the
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: family had shut it down like Michael Schumacher. Like Michael
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: Schumacher's family had done. It was that highly kept a secret.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: So obviously we wish Dan all the best and we
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: hope he gets better. But what a surprising a surprising thing,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: like one of those things that's been going on. This
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: apparently was very late last year, well.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Because he was come in the hospital last year and
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: there were rumors doing the round at the time that
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: he had a stroke, and I think that was denied
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: at the time. But now they're saying a neurological event.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So I mean, who knows well it is, but whether
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: it is a strugg or something else, who knows. But
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: they're saying a neurological event and that he was quote
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: in a bad way or a very bad way I
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: think was the direct quote in Tomorrow's Herald Son at
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the time. And he's been doing intensive work since then,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: rehab to try and recover.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's not had a good go of the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: last few years.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Because fell and broke his back while while he was
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: down at Sorrento and he was in embrace.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: We won't go there.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: It was in a brace for months and was out
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: of action. He's not had the greatest time of a healthwise.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I'm also not sure if it was some sort of
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: brain issue, brain aneurysm or stroke or something, why they
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: would want to deny it or keep it hush hush.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, generally, even if you're a very disliked ex premier,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: people will support you and come together.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I think it's probably if there's any This is a
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: bit off peace, no offense to the shoemakers. But Norman
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Mailer when he was on the run having stabbed his
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: wife and he was running from sort of house to
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: house after having stabbed his wife and his friends were
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: just surreal stupid bah Bah says, just plead insanity. Plead
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: in sanity said no, there's no way I complete any
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: kind of mental illness, because people then won't take my
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: work seriously and won't respect me. Man. So I reckon,
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: there is a real thing where if you are you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: especially if he's like a high powered consultant. Now whatever
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: he's doing, God knows what he's doing. That's another well
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: kept secret. But if people think, oh, you're not actually,
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: if people think you're neurologically impaired or there's issues, they're
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: not going to deal with you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Interesting well.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: In the Daily Telegraph tomorrow previewing the Rake decision by
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: the RBA tomorrow, the raise the stops the nation, The
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Reserve Bank of Australia is today likely to become the
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: only major central bank in the world to reverse course
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: and begin raising rates in a new bid to contain
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: inflation and embarrassing about face set to cost homeowners about
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: thirteen hundred dollars over the year ahead. Mccrro University economist
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Jeff Kingston said the biggest source of inflationary pressure was
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: government spending.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Oh that can't be right.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: What a surprise, What a surprise, And we don't have
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: time to do it. But there was another story on
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the front of the Telly tomorrow about how an AI
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: bot saying it would kill someone in order to survive.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Is ai.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Well, well we'll find out.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: We will reigate that during the break, and after the
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: break we'll come back and talk about the new Milania documentary.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: We talked last week about the fact that apparently.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Tickets weren't selling, but apparently compared to other documentaries, it's
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: done exceedingly well. Don't go away now the new Millennia
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: film was released over the weekend. We're talking about the
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: fact they'd sold no tickets last week, but apparently the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: numbers show, compared to other docos, has gone through the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: roof exactly.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Well, this is the highest grossing documentary in ten years,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: even beating the Daily Wires.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Documentary last year. Am I racist?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: It's done about seven million US dollars ten million Australian
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: in its opening weekend, and that's pretty good, I must say.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: When I went on to the Hoyts Cronulla website to
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: book tickets to the Millenia documentary, it was sold out
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: except for two seats for this afternoon, and tickets for
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: the rest of the week said selling fast. So I
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: think as much as the media has tried to pooh
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: pooh this when you compare it to other documentaries, it's
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: done really well, and particularly with women, so most of
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: the tickets are going to women, particularly women over fifty five.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: So thank people looked at all the pictures of empty
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: theaters that the lefties we're putting up on social media
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: and thinking, oh, we better go, and you know, yeah, well.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: In just in case you want to go, have a
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: look at this documentary, here's a little bit of what
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: you can expect.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Beautiful together with like minded leaders, we have a voice.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Is it safe?
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: So it's definitely geared more to a female audience, but
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: it does look genuinely very good.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's a lot about the shoes and the hats
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: and the clothes and all that sort of stuff, but
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: you know, bread and but it's one of those things.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: The more you talk about it, the more people take
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: an interest in it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Let's go from Milania to Maloney, Georgia.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Maloney of course, the.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Italy, and there's been a painting at
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a church restored in Italy and they have discovered, well,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: looking at it afterwards, that one of the angels that
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: used to be a cherum now apparently looks a lot
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like Georgia Maloney. You can see it there on your screen,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: so much so that Italy's Culture Minister and the Diocese
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: of Rome have now launched an investigation into the fact
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that the restored angel in the painting looks so much
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like Georgia Maloney and how that managed to happen.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, for the things looking into Maloney just has
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: a very angelic face.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: It's not her fault. She looks like an angel.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. Georgia Maloney won't be there, so.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: You go, well, there's an angel that you should go
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: and have a look at. Now over to something slightly less,
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: shall we say, lofty than Georgia Maloney's sentence into Heaven,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: and that is a boxing match where a boxer, Jarrel
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: Miller was hit with such a good punch that it
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: literally knocked his hair out. He was facing Kingsley Ibert
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: on Saturday Night. Just say it with confidence, Joe, when
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: iber landed a flurry of shots in the second round
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: that caused a roar from the crowd despite on looking
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: particularly hard, and then one of the hundred knocked Miller's
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: head backwards and his hairbat pop upward from the front.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Have a look. We've run out of time to heaven.
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: Oh he's losing his hair.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Well I've never seen this before, but if Flanner is
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: getting the hair knocked off his head, so wow.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Not Dad, I've seen a lot in boxing, I have
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: never seen something like that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, dear, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I hope you don't lose your hair along the way.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: He comes to rid a Penny show.